Top 10 reasons the Dems lost in Massachusetts

10.  Obama – who believed his own rhetoric that the country was ready for the change he hoped for.

 9.  Obama – who, like Newt Gingrich after the ‘94 election and George W. Bush after the ‘04 election, came to believe that just because the voters voted them in meant they had been given a carte blanche to do whatever they wanted.

 8.  Obama – who forgot that when all the dust of an election settles down, Americans favor incremental change rather than sudden, quantum leaps.

 7.  Obama – who views politics in Massachusetts, New Jersey, Virginia, and elsewhere through the lens of Chicago politics as practiced by Rahm Emanuel.

 6.  Obama – who forgot that an incumbent president with sinking poll numbers should not make an eleventh-hour, high profile visit to boost a candidate with sagging poll numbers herself.

 5.  Obama – who forgot that Independent voters pay attention.

 4.  Obama – who sloughed off the Tea Party movement as a fringe element that had no impact on elections.

 3.  Obama – who pushed a massive health care proposal that polls showed was not favored by a majority of voters, so fast and so hard that he overshot the mark by a mile.

 2.  Obama – who pushed Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid to ram through a health care bill at any cost, and to make whatever deals he had to in order to secure passage.

 1.  Obama – who failed to recognize that cutting a sweetheart deal publicly with Big Labor less than one week before a key election, was a really boneheaded move.

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Ridgerunner

January 20th, 2010
6:40 am

He won because most independents and a lot of democrats are ashamed they voted for Obama. America is waking up !

Andrew Billups

January 20th, 2010
6:43 am

The Kennedy dynasty appears to be over. It seemed it would never happen.

deborahinAthens

January 20th, 2010
6:51 am

I voted for Obama because I wanted us out of Iraq and Afghanistan. You cannot fight a “war’ on terrorism. Wars have to have an objective–bombing terrorists is like chasing mercury. Won’t work. We are wasting thousands of lives for nothing–just like Vietnam. I voted for Obama because, after voting for Republicans for forty years, I had become sick and tired of them not getting the real work of government done. I wanted tort reform. Instead I got Terry Schiavo and bans on same sex marriage. I voted for Obama because the health care system in the US is horrid. I wanted a single-payer system. I wanted every American to be included in the health care coverage and every American to pay his or her portion. I voted against McCain, primarily, because he wanted to tax health insurance. It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to know that if there is no reason for a corporation to offer health care insurance to their employees, they will stop doing it. I have health insurance that would disappear. With this disaster of a bill that the Democrats have cobbled together, the American people would have gotten nothing. There would be a fine if you didn’t get coverage, there would be a fine if a business didn’t offer coverage, yet, the things contained in this bill does not force the insurance companies to lower the costs so people can afford insurance. I wanted something done to address the fact that people in other countries pay one tenth what we in this country pay for comparable drugs and health care. Nothing in this bill does that. They are so stupid, they can’t see it! The insurance companies, whom, I am sure, paid all the legislators massive amounts of money, got everything! We the people got nothing. The Dems didn’t even start bargaining from strength–they never even put the single payer option on the table. Then, like icing on the cake, the slimy creeps started pimping out deals. They let Nebraska off the hook for the massive Medicaid costs, but the rest of the states, already cutting budgets to the bone, would have to pay their share as well as Nebraska’s share. Then, when they let the unions opt out of the having their health insurance taxed, while families like mine–hard working, non-union–would have to pay that same tax, I wanted to vomit. I have never in my life felt so betrayed. I still will not vote for a Republican until someone with a brain comes to the top. There are so many brainless idiots out there that get elected simply because they have the money and the political pull. Where in this country are the statesmen that actually want what is in this Republics best interest? I will probably never vote for a Democrat again because they all have proved, yet one more time that they cannot govern. Obama has delivered nothing of what he promised, and I believe that the citizens of Massachusetts have sent him and the other Democrats a clear message.

Karl Marx

January 20th, 2010
6:55 am

One would hope what Brown made as his battle cry resonated with the voters. It was not a democratic seat or a Kennedy seat, it is the peoples seat. In fact they all are the peoples seats.

Joel Edge

January 20th, 2010
6:55 am

I think you’re not giving Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi enough credit here. President Obama didn’t do this alone.

bob

January 20th, 2010
7:35 am

deborahinathens, you voted repub for forty years but voted Obama because you wanted tort reform ?

Ragnar Danneskjöld

January 20th, 2010
8:08 am

With all due respect, I think the slam on Speaker Gingrich misfires. President Clinton wisely embraced many of Mr. Gingrich’s initiatives. While one could correctly use “hubris” to describe the Speaker personally, I think his political agenda was popular, and was an integral factor in the election of President Bush in 2000 (even though the Speaker was no longer around to similarly save President Bush.)

Boyd Campbell

January 20th, 2010
8:09 am

For those that think the insurance companies were getting a deal under the Democrat’s health care reform, think again. Look at the House bill. On the first or second page, it requires insurance companies to have a loss ratio of no lower than 85%. Assuming they get the best deal allowed of 85%, they have only 15% to use for operations (salaries, light bill, heating bill, etc.). I know of very few companies that have operating expenses less than 15% of gross revenues. That bill would allow premiums to sky rocket, and cause the health insurance companies to go out of business. Health care is not expensive because of insurance companies. Health care is expensive because of the lawyers, etc. I remember a few years back when they were arguing over the patient bill of rights under the Clinton administration. The disagreement between the Republicans and the Democrats was over limiting the lawyers to $1 million or $5 million on the punitive damages. I remember the late Ted Kennedy saying that the Democrat version would only add 2% to our health care premiums. That’s where they don’t get it! Most of these guys are worth millions. They don’t get that adding two percent here, and two percent there prices us out of healthcare! They don’t get that by allowing illegal aliens to take advantage of free health care through the hospitals it causes the hospitals to raise their rates which in turn causes the insurance companies to raise their rates. They talk about the evil insurance companies, but probably over half of them are not for profit corporations. I work for a mutual insurance company. That means it is owned by the insured, yet our health care premiums are very close to the for profit insurance companies. It isn’t the insurance companies. It’s the government, and without Brown being elected, they were way on their way to making things so much worse that we would’ve thought of them as the “good old days”.

Whacks Eloquent

January 20th, 2010
8:27 am

Feels very odd to say that I agree with Karl Marx, but here I am referring to the one that posted at 6:55 am!

This is a big win for the Tea Party movement and thus grassroots movements in general. Let’s break down the political machines…

StJ

January 20th, 2010
8:54 am

Funny how the karma train came around and ran their dumb @$$3$ slap over!! However, I agree with the previous post that said Pelosi and Reid didn’t get enough credit for this one. Let’s hope the karma train comes to get them, too.

Joel Edge

January 20th, 2010
9:02 am

Whacks Eloquent
I agree, the Republican party does not need to merely cheer this. With the Dems, they need to be thinking what this means for the future of party politics. Merely trying to court the party loyalists isn’t gonna work. The Tea Party movement isn’t a party yet. Not yet. If the two main parties don’t begin working for the American people. It could become one.

Karl Marx

January 20th, 2010
9:07 am

Whacks Karl Marks is just a blog (pen) name. I wanted to remind everyone what we should fight against. Marx’s 10 Planks should be required reading because that is what will destroy this country. Senator elect Brown’s victory is a win for Tea Parties all over this country and a defeat for those who dismissed tea party people as fringe elements. Politicians should listen because the people are speaking. Elected officials, Ignore them at your own peril. I can’t understand why people like deborahinathens think voting for the other party will actually change anything for the better. If you want to change something get involved and change it in the primary’s. With the likes of Kennedy, Pelosi, Reid, and Rahm why would anyone expect anything other than empty promises, back room deals, and ignoring the people. This isn’t Chicago it’s the United States and we don’t subscribe to the Chicago Way.

Joan

January 20th, 2010
9:20 am

If this administration has done anything right, it is that it has gotten the voters in this country so angry and so involved, that they have become more educated as to what is going on, and are simply not willing to allow their elected representatives to go to Washington thinking they are God. If this does anything, it should tell them they had better start paying attention to their electorate. Brown is right–it is the people’s seat. The people know that, and now the people know that if they simply ignore what is going on they do so at their peril. Politicians shouldn’t be trusted. They should be continuously watched.

M

January 20th, 2010
9:30 am

@Karl Marx 9:07am,
Most of the Ten Planks, in varying degrees, have been implemented already. Several of them for decades now, if not generations. The USA is a socialist country and has been since at least the 1960’s.

Bob's A Cherry Picker

January 20th, 2010
9:49 am

Hi Bob,

How snarky of you!

One thing you forgot to mention is that it’s a lot easier to scare people into not doing something than it is to encourage them to actually do something.

Fact of the matter is that the nation is in desperate need of some kind of healthcare reform, and the Dems are attempting to actually do something about it. Whether it’s flawed or not is beyond me, but the GOP seems to be extremely interested in some things that were lost on them previously…namely deficit spending and health reform.

So basically, they’re celebrating a victory based on hypothetical fear of the unknown rather than progress in the face of need.

Yoda summed it up best: Fear is the path to the dark side. Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering.

I think we’re in the Anger leads to hate phase.

Justine

January 20th, 2010
9:54 am

The answer is a simple one. The average US citizen could not name all of the elected officials they voted for to represent them from the local to the federal level. Instead they rely upon sound bites and unverified information and inuendos to determine what candidate represents them the most. Then you have the two political parties who are a monopoly upon the government and thus the lives of the American population without any checks and balances. In many ways I am glad Brown won because it shows nothing should be taken for granted.

Davo

January 20th, 2010
10:00 am

BB makes some valid points but to blame Obama solely for this loss is a bit much. The economy has to be the main reason for this upset, and even the bluest of the blue have limits to how much they are willing to pay in taxes. The Mass. voters already pay for their own version UHC (which Brown voted for) so it’s not likely they were very keen to pay for a national plan. Also, from what I’ve been reading, this gal ran a terrible campaign. I would bet that had she taken this more seriously than results would probably be different.

But it’s good news for us in the anti-establishment crowd. All of a sudden, the people have regained their voice. If we could mold a 3rd party out of this win then we could see some real change.

Shawny

January 20th, 2010
10:07 am

Right on Mr. Barr.

Jim

January 20th, 2010
10:07 am

What this means is now the party’s have to work together to get something accomplished, no more back room deals, no more party of “NO”. It has been shown that Americans are sick of all the political bullsh*t. Get something done or you’re fired.

Ray Pugh

January 20th, 2010
10:42 am

Man you people are dumber than a box of hammers–you really think Brown won b/c Massachusetts suddenly became a Red State?? Ha. Brown won b/c what’s-her-name was a terrible candidate who ran a terrible campaign–her own supporters even repeated called her “Marcia” instead of “Martha.” Oh, and it sure doesn’t hurt that Brown is charismatic and good-looking, and if you think that doesn’t matter, then why do we even know the name “Sarah Palin?” Pull your heads out of your @$$es teabaggers…

BS Aplenty

January 20th, 2010
10:58 am

Mr. Gingrich rose to the Speaker of the House because his message resonated with the American people. He also had the intellectual heft to communicate well the Republican message. Then-President Clinton compromised precisely because the Gingrich revolution forced him to.

The results were a couple of budget surpluses around 1999 and 2000, a responsibility-based welfare reform law (which Obama had tossed out in his first 365 days) and, most importantly, the burial of Mrs. Clinton’s attempt at a socialist healthcare scheme.

Obama didn’t learn those lessons of near-history and his socialist agenda clearly exceeded his political grasp. I think this healthcare bill is dead unless the Democrats wish to see further depletion of their ranks in Congress. Maybe they’re willing to take the gamble depending on their perceived losses – maybe not.

BS Aplenty

January 20th, 2010
11:01 am

Then-President Clinton compromised precisely because the Gingrich revolution forced him to.

I wish to alter that last conclusion to a more accurate one. Then-President Clinton compromised precisely because the American People forced him to. Representative Gingrich and his allies were, to their great credit, in resonance with the American People.

Dan

January 20th, 2010
11:01 am

I don’t know Ray the fact they voted in a drunken, butt ugly, elitist, buffoon for almost 40 years kind of belies that contention. Of course they may just be slow learners

Ric

January 20th, 2010
11:02 am

Bob, you forgot to mention “The Truck”!

leeh1

January 20th, 2010
11:05 am

Hot damn! Another win for a Republican! Back to government as usual: tax cuts for friends, overspending on pork, and sweetheart deals with lobbiests and bankers! I can’t wait for the change of going back to September, 2008!

Way to go, Massachusetts!

Another Republican elected to Congress, with all his baggage! Can’t wait to see what he will do to help destroy our economy a second time for the repubs! We American Joes go broke, and the elite Republican bankers make multi-million dollar bonuses!

The bankers sure got a wonderful payback on all the money they (using our tax dollars) invested in the Massachsetts Republican Party! Now, the Republicans can look forward to another few years of the best government their money can buy.

James

January 20th, 2010
11:11 am

Deborah in Athens.. understand this, the democrats pushed a watered health care bill because republicans would not lend their support to anything less. The bottom line is I am not and republicans are not interested in paying for your health care. ALthough I’d like you to continue to pay for my sons education. I appreciate it.

The American People

January 20th, 2010
11:13 am

We had the same answer Mr. Barr. You did a heck of a job Brownie!! Harry Reid, Blance Lincoln, Michael Bennet – You Are Next.

3rd Party Guy

January 20th, 2010
11:14 am

Oh good, now the crooks can get together and craft a healthcare bill that benefits the wealthy and the poor whilst screwing the middle class…again. Let the illusion of choice continue.

Happy Anniversary O

January 20th, 2010
11:17 am

I wonder if the Dems up for reelection will want/ask Obama to come to their state to campaign for them? I would say no.

MOT

January 20th, 2010
11:17 am

First to debrainathens: I too feel betrayed and yes our health system in this country really did need some reform, however the fact that people in other countries pay less for coverage does not mean their system is better. In fact anyone who is now a citizen here from other countries where they paid less, are standing up fighting against the “reform” of our system…they see the writing on the wall. Why do you think we in this country have so many coming from other countries and are happy to pay to get their health taken care of? Or are you even aware of it? I am a nurse, I am on the front lines, I see, I know. You diss the healthcare in the US as “horrid”, you obviously have not lived elsewhere, or dealt with other systems, like the military system that me and my family used as I grew up (my dad was army). Why do we have a system non-Americans use? Because of the free market element which gives people choice/control. Once you remove our ability to control such personal basic choices as who our doctor is and how/when we get cared for, we lose control. That means we are nothing less than subjects ruled by authoritarian power. Now, that said, we do need reform: remove the sweetheart deals made between pharmaceuticals and doctors/hospitals as well as anyone in power. And to answer the accusation nothing else has been brought to the table (don’t remember who said that), but that is not true, several different offerings have been brought and the ruling democrats, and namely Pelosi and Reid engineered and controlled things in a way that prevented anyone else from putting something logical and reasonable down. There has been the idea of using what we have already with medicaid and extending it to all, there has been the idea of Massachusets model. And speaking of Massachusets, like Davo pointed out, they will want to opt out of any deal b/c they had a governor who was strong enough, wise enough and had a wonderful background in finance that put together a pretty dang good health care program for them. Too bad the whole country can’t have that. That governor was Mr. Romney. We could have had him in there reforming our health care. But too many folks let religion get in the way. Now here we are all suffering. I sit down here in Georgia, envying those in Massachusets. I too quit voting Repbulican or Democrat, I try to vote for the individual, but the way it has been, in US politics has been impossible to vote for the best. I am thrilled that the Tea Party has gained such great widespread and deepening roots! NOW let us all work hard that we end up with smarter leaders who are not greedy crooks in there putting together something that makes sense and will work without breaking “we the people’s” backs.

DW

January 20th, 2010
11:24 am

AGREED RAY PUGH

joe matarotz

January 20th, 2010
11:27 am

Who wrote this blog and what have you done with the real Bobolink Barr?

Karl Marx

January 20th, 2010
11:27 am

M your right. most of Marx’s plank have been adopted but that does not make it right nor does it make it right to support it. I will always vote for the person (Not Party) that will most closely not follow the planks that can get elected. That is the reason I did not support Obama for president not that I thought McCain was much better but he was the lessor of two evils. I’ll also say a vote for Mr. Barr did nothing but help the Socialist Democrats last election. Congratulation Libertarians it’s the change you believed in.

Real Athens

January 20th, 2010
11:39 am

Get your head out of your collective a*$es. The tea party movement is nothing but a republican financed, grass roots organization, given false credibility by the republican-backed media arm, designed to put a new face on the same old pigs. Guess what? It worked.

Now you can return congress to the same folks who ran the country into the ditch for 8 years.

Rational Person

January 20th, 2010
11:46 am

Bob left out the main reason: Fox News and Internet rumor-mongers pumping out the hate all day every day.

smart black guy

January 20th, 2010
11:51 am

No real athens, the Dummycrats are the ones who destroy economies, the repubs tend to build it!

Fix-It

January 20th, 2010
11:52 am

deborahinAthens,
it sounds like you need to move to Cuba, and take Michael Moore with you. Why is it that the loony left wants to make the US into a Euro Trash? If it is always better some other place then feel free to go and leave us alone.

Glenn

January 20th, 2010
11:53 am

As a former New Englander I can tell you that the main reason Brown won was because Coakley is an out of touch idiot . She truly thought that because she had a D beside her name she would be given the election . She was up 15 points a month ago . But guess what ? When you miss spell your states name & make a silly remark about Schilling being a Yankee fan you are asking for trouble . Out of touch & more than 10 percent unemployment equals disaster . There is a message there but before you harp to hard on government healthcare you should know Massachusetts has state sponsored healthcare . All politicians are on notice & thats a good thing .

Real Athens

January 20th, 2010
11:55 am

Mot:

I have been treated for a chronic illness (kidney stones) in the U.S., Denmark, Canada and Sweden. The treatment cost $10,000 in the U.S. and under $100 Euros in Sweden and Denmark and about $250 in Canada — for hospital visit, treatment and medicine. Draw your own conclusions and I’ll draw mine — I’ve been there, done that.

Here is a non-partisan, well-informed take on our healthcare system in the U.S. Read it and educate yourself. It is a well-written, common-sense approach. It highlights problems and offers real solutions.

http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/magazine-archive/august-2009/viewpoint/overview/our-prescription-for-health-care-ov.htm

Fix-It

January 20th, 2010
11:55 am

Real Athens,
why are you against lower taxes and less government? If you want to pay more taxes feel free to, but don’t FORCE me to. By the way the Tea Party has received NO tax payer money, yet ACORN, which is RUN by the dimacrats has. So do you think ACORN is not an extension of the dimacrats?

Fix-It

January 20th, 2010
11:58 am

Real Athens, if you have been there done that why did you come back to this terrible place? Please go back to Sweden or Denmark, we are all so bad here…

Davo

January 20th, 2010
11:59 am

Karl Marx

” I will always vote for the person (Not Party) …a vote for Mr. Barr did nothing but help the Socialist Democrats last election. Congratulation Libertarians it’s the change you believed in.”

That makes no sense what-so-ever.

Real Athens

January 20th, 2010
12:02 pm

FIx-it:

I’m for fair taxes and wise government. I would be completely satisfied with a return to the tax structure during the the term of the last, great republican president.

The tea party movement was created by Dick Armey.

How does ACORN play into this? Please tell me what it is you think they do?

Swede Atlanta

January 20th, 2010
12:08 pm

I agree with you Bob except for reasons #3 and #1.

#3 – The HCR package by CBO estimates should actually reduce public expenditures over 10 years. It is massive but then healthcare is a significant chunk of the economy and without reform it will continue to grow.

I think Obama and the proponents of the reform package never connected with people. Most of what people heard about HCR was negative and most of it not true. They failed to communicate and sell the package.

Up until a couple of months ago a majority of polled Americans were in favor of the plan. But the proponents did nothing to combat the negative press or sell the benefits.

#1 – Doing a sweetheart deal with Labor
I think most Americans can understand the problem Labor had with the Senate’s funding mechanism was that it taxed more expensive health care packages against a backdrop that Labor had given up wages and other benefits in favor of better health care.

Personally I think healthcare benefits should be taxed for everyone or for no one. Why should I get tax free healthcare provided by my employer when someone who has to purchase their coverage out of their paycheck has to pay tax on it. Either my benefits need to be taxed or the other guy should be able to deduct his healthcare premiums even if they are not itemizing deductions.

I think the big turnoff on healthcare was the compromises that Harry Reid made with the likes of Ben Nelson. His vote was garnered by extortion.

jayenowayout

January 20th, 2010
12:11 pm

The real issue is that no matter what party we vote for the machine in DC will never change. For 20+ years the Reps held the main seat and they did nothing but run the country in the ground. Now the Dems are doing the same thing. The best bet is to vote nationally but act locally. We are in wars we cannot win and should not be in. Fighting an enemy that will will soon be borrowing money to help them re-build their countries. Overhauling a health care system that wokrs for 90% of the population for les than 10%. Bailing out big business while they sit and watch homeowners lose everthing they have ever had. Providing foriegn aide for women and women dying in the strets in countries far away while we have women and men and children freezing and dying in our own streets. The government is a tool for the wealthy and a vice for the POOR. We only have one way out, and they are going to MAKE sure we take nothing with us

MOT

January 20th, 2010
12:11 pm

Well, Real Athens, you must be blogging from either Sweden or Denmark, which is it? I have two kids with seizure disorders, when they hit 19 and are out from our insurance, which one already has, it will cost a few thousand a year to keep them in their meds here in our country…..but to go anywhere else, I have to get at the back of the line to see the dr. to perscribe the meds. Guess how long that line is? Canada=2 years. Anywhere in Europe 1-2 years. Here: at most 6 weeks. When the first one was referred to neuro by pediatrician I was told it might take 6 weeks to see neuro. We were in the very next day!!!! It seems folks outside the country are happy to pay for getting in faster here, and there are those here that are happy to wait for less money in other countries….and that is your choice!

2 party system is lame

January 20th, 2010
12:16 pm

Dems and Republicans are not good for the people (from a republican). If we could only vote someone in that is not associated with one of these parties and their special interests.

Fix-It

January 20th, 2010
12:23 pm

Real Athens, if you are for fair taxes and a wise government, then you are in the wrong place. Fair taxes would mean Fairtax.org and a wise government would mean they should only spend what they have, so you are SOL. If you don’t think ACORN was not created and funded by the dimacrats you are lost. An example of ACORN is how come they can ONLY “find” dimacrat votes in states that use them? Makes you go hmmmm. How do more people in a county vote than live there and the registrations are all from ACORN, hmmm. Why does ACORN get tax payer money and the Tea Party does not? ACORN is no more than a dimacrat arm of the government, the same as you claim the Tea Party is for the GOP….except my taxes don’t go to the Tea Party.

Fix-It

January 20th, 2010
12:29 pm

Swede Atlanta, you act like you know what is in the bill, can you show me where online it is, or to where the CSPAN video is? Oh that’s right just 2 more broken promises. The fact is that even the people who are voting on the bill don’t know what is in it, and it was written by lobbyist. I will not have any lobbyist in my government; oopps another lie, most of the Obozo cabinet is lobbyist.

deathportal

January 20th, 2010
12:29 pm

A vote for Barr did not help Obama in any way. First of all, I don’t believe that voting third party EVER helps anyone in one of the other parties; that argument is like saying “limit my freedom of choices, please.” But you could add up Barr, Nader, McKinney, Baldwin, and every other third party candidate’s vote totals and combine them and it STILL wouldn’t equal the gap in vote totals between McCain and Obama. McCain still would have lost. I voted for Mr. Barr and I did NOT elect Obama. Period.

And, Karl Marx, if you want to stop Socialism so bad, quit voting for one of the Big Parties that implements it! Although I think the whole “Socialism!” cry is over-done and is losing its effectiveness. Now it sounds like a bunch of bellowing, angry white men who are just pi$$y ‘cuz McCain didn’t win. A more accurate description of Obama, I think, would be Corporatist, whereas Bush was Fascist.