Surprise — TSA body scanners will retain and transmit nude images

The federal government is hell-bent on installing full-body x-ray scanners in airports across the country in the wake of the failed, Christmas Day bomb attempt by the Nigerian Brainiac.  Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano has directed that the government will spend tens of millions of our dollars to purchase and install the fancy-dandy, but largely un-proven, ”back-scatter” machines as quickly as possible.  In an effort to quell serious privacy concerns that have been raised about the graphic images the devices create, the government repeatedly has assured the public that the images revealed to Transportation Security Administration (TSA) employees manning the consoles, cannot be retained or transmitted.

Well, surprise, surprise — the government is not telling us the truth.  In fact, the specifications for the manufacture of the machines mandates that they have the ability to store images on hard disk storage, and that they possess the ability to send the images.   Of course, the transmission of such data creates the obvious possibility that hackers could access the data and print out or view the images.  The images themselves portray people without clothes on, and include relatively clear depiction of genitalia. 

The information establishing that the full-body scanners will have the ability to retain and transmit the images they capture was obtained by the Electronic Privacy Information Center (EPIC), a well-known and highly-regarded public interest research center in Washington, D.C.  The organization has sought additional information regarding the machines, but remains engaged in a dispute with TSA over its release.

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Jane

January 15th, 2010
6:45 am

I wonder how many “bathroom breaks” those horned up perverts will have to take during the day to “relieve themselves”? I can just imagine the mindset of the job applicants that will gravitate to those positions in the TSA.

James D

January 15th, 2010
6:52 am

First :P

As you stated the machines “have the ability to store images on hard disk storage, and that they possess the ability to send the images”. It does not say the will.

Flying is not a right. If you don’t want to get scanned you can walk, run, or drive. The attendant who looks at 20,000 images a day is just dying to send a black and white image or YOU to his special friends list. Yeah, like you’re special and he is going to ask you to grab your ankles while he is scanning you. Hell, it might solve our obesity issues if everyone know they are going to been seen in the buff.

Cliff notes:
Flying not a privilege
I don’t care if you are not on my plane, I will be safer.
Loss some weight

James D

January 15th, 2010
6:55 am

Crap, second

Jane, no one want to see you with your close off.

Name (required)

January 15th, 2010
6:58 am

Chip…..chip…..chip away at my rights, America. Instead of a good, proactive plan to combat these incidents, we keep piling on reactive nonsense that never makes us any safer. Now every time someone gets an uneasy stomach and (God forbid) has a BM on a flight, the fighter jets have to escort them home. Does the government not realize that Americans are pissed-off enough that if anyone tries to do anything on an airliner these days, they will immediately get gang-tackled by an angry mob?? Let’s drop the “war on terror” moniker and call it what it really is….a war on law-abiding citizens. The “terrorists” (please forgive me for using that godawful media-crazed word) have won….get over it and move on.

Jenn

January 15th, 2010
7:01 am

To: James D
Your are an idiot.
1. You aren’t first.
2. Are you saying the machines need “the will” or the person running the machine? Because ultimately many different people running these things will have “the will.”
3. Who cares how many people they scan or how many see it, I don’t want people seeing my jigglies.

Cliff notes:
You are an idiot

christina

January 15th, 2010
7:05 am

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christina

January 15th, 2010
7:07 am

Jane – My gynecologist looks at genitalia all day long and I don’t wonder how many “bathroom breaks” he has to take. If it stops 1 plane from going down because of some idiot smuggling a bomb then I say who cares if a TSA employee sees your junk?

jimbo

January 15th, 2010
7:10 am

Hey, James D, you may have missed his point. It’s not about them looking at the images. It’s a black and white x-ray looking image-not a lot to get excited about.

What it IS about is the fact that they’ve been flat out lying to us about this..again.

Next we’ll probably find out that the camera that watches over the booth you stand in is tied to the backscatter image, and also saved. I wouldn’t put it past them.

At this point, I am sick and tired of being lied to by our government.

Jenn

January 15th, 2010
7:11 am

christina – your OB/GYN is just a tad bit more certified to do that than your average TSA agent. I can just see the guy behind the machine tapping his buddy on the shoulder as you walk through saying “come here, check this girl out”…

Jenn Dear

January 15th, 2010
7:18 am

It is simple dear, don’t fly. Your paranoia should not affect my safety.

Jenn Dear

January 15th, 2010
7:18 am

LOL your jigglies,
Jenn type your name in Google and add nude after, you will see pictures (much better quality one I might add than the ones the operator will be seeing). I will do the helicopter while walking through if it means I’m safer.

Jimbo, I have come to accept the fact they are lying to us. Obama has not said one thing that has been true.
A transparent process while creating the health care plan, LIE
Bipartisan process, LIE
Healthcare debate on Cspan, Lie

All I can do is vote. I expect they will not send these images or store them because if they lie about this one they will get the living crap sued out of them.

George

January 15th, 2010
7:43 am

Hey, I won’t be able to fly anymore, I have a penal implant.

German Shepherd Dawg

January 15th, 2010
7:46 am

James,

How do you know no one wants to see Jane naked?

“Lose” isn’t spelled with two ’s’

Gain some sense.

German Shepherd Dawg

January 15th, 2010
7:49 am

George, on the other hand, there is such a thing as TMI.

Can’t we get back to the point of the conversation where Jane was naked?

Doesn’t anybody see the stupidity of all this? Train some dogs and put them in airports, Problem solved – dogs can smell trouble a mile away. Just a few of my kinsmen in place, and order is restored. All we want is to please and do a good job. Finding explosives is just another game of hide and seek.

James D

January 15th, 2010
8:01 am

German Shepherd,
I agree, dogs are the answer, but extra precautions would be fine with me as long as they share Jane and Jenn’s pictures.

Jane no one is making baby batter looking at your x-rays? Have you even seen what the pictures look like? You can get any type of woman you want butt naked, in hi-def with any object in any orifice, on the internet.

Cliff notes:
Dogs good
baby batter
x-rays quality not wackable
MS Word says Jenn is spelled wrong

From today's AJC "headlines"...

January 15th, 2010
8:03 am

“Many Obama pledges unkept” – well, DUH – and you think that the TSA’s “lying” is news?

BECCA

January 15th, 2010
8:03 am

I’m not sure about the rest of you, but I don’t want my 7 and 8 year old daughters scanned. That’s just not right.

Red

January 15th, 2010
8:10 am

So basically when children go through, we will have a government complacent in making and distributing child porn. And if we exempt children, do the psychos strap devices to their own kids to get something on board? Here we go…what have we done?

Jim

January 15th, 2010
8:13 am

James D,
Well said. Couldn’t have said it better myself.

Chris A

January 15th, 2010
8:14 am

So I suppose it is ok for the government to photograph, retain and transmit pictures of naked children.
And is it now ok for the TSA agents to also look at my children’s genitalia?
I have an 9,14 and 16 yr old, and I don’t think a TSA agent should be able to see them basically naked and I find it more disturbing that the Government will be able to record, transmit and store these images of minor children!

John

January 15th, 2010
8:24 am

Of course, they will retain the images. How else will they have evidence if they catch someone with a bomb?

It is not a right to fly but I do have a say since 10’s of millions of tax dollars will be used to make you people “feel” safer.

I hadn’t thought about children. That’s pretty sick!

James D

January 15th, 2010
8:26 am

Chris,
My friend are an uninformed idiot. They are not taking pictures of your family, they will be x-rayed. Your kids will look like a stick with bones at their ages. Think, read, and research before you open your mouth. That is the problem with most of the people today. How in the hell do you just from x-ray images to looking at genitalia? The world would be so much better is people thought about what they were going to say first.

Cliff notes:

No pics, x-rays
Bag of bones
Genitalia, WTF
Think, independently

James D

January 15th, 2010
8:28 am

John
Why would the need an image as evidence if they have the guy with the GD bomb strapped to his wait in custody?
Think people.

AJ

January 15th, 2010
8:35 am

Why is this country so hung up on the naked body? On TV, we can do all kinds of disturbing things (decapitate, rape, etc) but god forbid, there is a second of nudity and the PTC writes a million letters to the FCC. It’s this kind of Puritanism that is our problem in the country. We’ve all seen both male and female genitalia. We’ve seen big ones. We’ve seen small ones. Who cares. If someone sees my picture and it “excites” them, who cares. I guess that’s really a compliment.

Tony

January 15th, 2010
8:37 am

They are not xrays. They are full body “scans”. Look up the pictures online. Google is your friend.

MrLiberty

January 15th, 2010
8:37 am

For all of you folks who THINK you know what the images looks like – and by the way, they are not X-rays, please check out this link and see if you have a different opinion:

http://www.lewrockwell.com/blog/lewrw/archives/46711.html

It is truly sad to see how many folks are willing to give up liberty for supposed safety. This will not prevent a motivated terrorist. You of course know what is next. Full body cavity searches. Are you willing to subject yourself to one? How about your wife, or our daughter, or your mom? Are you sure those TSA folks don’t get these jobs just for the power trip or the control, or to get their jollies?

Why is it we almost never heard of hijackings before the 70’s? Maybe it was because everyone was legally allowed to carry a gun onboard. Then the government took away that right and the downward spiral began.

So long as our foreign policy continues to inspire terrorists, we will never be safe. We should be objecting to that, not bending over for the government.

And then there are the questionable health impacts:

http://www.naturalnews.com/027913_full-body_scanners_DNA.html

Why do you still trust the government for ANYTHING????

Jeff S

January 15th, 2010
8:39 am

James D – You are truly an idiot!

MrLiberty

January 15th, 2010
8:40 am

James D, it is funny that you want people to think and read before they post, yet you have done none of that before you post. Please go to the first link in my posting and see what the images really look like. You will be shocked. And for those of you that actually trust the safety of these machines, go to my second link.

Terrible

January 15th, 2010
8:41 am

If they want to invade the privacy of people maybe they should start with the type of folks that are blowing up the planes. I don’t see blacks and whites blowing up planes and until one does then don’t screen them.

Daniel Defoe

January 15th, 2010
8:41 am

James D You are an idiot… here’s the results of a couple minutes research:
http://www.google.com/webhp?sa=N&hl=en&tab=lw#hl=en&q=full-body+x-ray+scanner+Susan+Hallowell+image&aq=f&aqi=&oq=&fp=df82d86320cf60e9

Look at the photos and read the Times article. Maybe you ought to do some research before you open YOUR mouth, huh?

neoCarlinist

January 15th, 2010
8:41 am

here we go again. this whole debate originates from the premise that the TSA has a “doable” mission. there are tactics and policies in place (in other parts of the world) to identify and capture terrorists, and yet we (USA) seem to think technology is the be all and end all, or the solution to every problem (as if terrorists do not have access to technology). back to square one: this is a LAW ENFORCEMENT problem. ergo, thorough, professional (boring)police work (development and investigation of LEADS) will thwart more terrorist acts than any hi-tech gizmo being hawked by Beltway Bandit, Inc.

20 years with Airlines

January 15th, 2010
8:52 am

Firstly, James-you obviously have not seen these “Xrays” they do indeed show more than bones.

Secondly, profiling is a must. We don’t want to offend others so we lower the bar here at home and offend our nation and throw out all human dignity and common sense.

The facts are: we inconvenience over %99.997 of the flying public that just want to get patronize the airlines and get along with their personal business of travel. This is done to create a somewhat false atmosphere of safety for same. The terrorists, at this point, are much easier to identify through their affiliations, their origins and their travel plans past and present. The focus should be on THEM and yes, racial and other profiling should be in place because of proven past. We are becoming a quite sick society when we give a green flag to naked body images being viewed as the only safe option. Another band aid for the children. Wake up and be strong in your beliefs and convictions folks.

Chris A

January 15th, 2010
8:52 am

James D. YOU are the uninformed @$$CLOWN! With how much you keep trying to shoot down everyone else who is concerned about this, it would appear that you are just a perv TSA agent who wants to have access to these images, including children you sick PEDO! Now shut you pie hole, go back to BlindLiberalLove.com and let the educated adults converse here.

EJ

January 15th, 2010
8:52 am

All of this effort is for little in return.

If someone robbed your home, and you get a sturdier door, what good is that door if you leave your windows open?

There are so many points of attack that to single out this one and spend all we have on it is a waste.

Behavioral profiling, ENFORCING the requirements to enter this nation, and common sense will do more than these scanners.

James D

January 15th, 2010
8:55 am

AJ, Tony, Jeff, Mr Libert (questionable)
I’m an idiot?
I have seen those images/ x-rays.
They are x-rays but they are called body scans. You my friends are calling me out for not reading what they really are. Really?

I guess you guys are saying you could get off on those pictures?
They show absolutely nothing but an outline. It is less than you see when you are in a bathing suit. God forbid you’re at a pool and a cold breeze blows by.
LMAO at you guys

Cliff notes:
I’ve seen the images
You have no idea what a body scan is
You guys are perverts if the x-rays excite you
LMAO

Chris A

January 15th, 2010
8:55 am

OOPS Sorry James D

Cliff note:
You are an A$$ CLOWN
You are a sick PEDO
Shut your Pie Hole
GO AWAY

Marc Richardson

January 15th, 2010
8:59 am

The point of these ”back-scatter” machines is that they make anything that is concealed about the body visible. Now, I do not have a problem with the machines themselves or the images they gather. However, that being said, I think a separate line at airports should be required for every single male Muslim or any Arabic looking male Muslim between the ages of 16 and 50. Keep those machines solely and specifically for male Muslims in this age group. When even one (1) female Muslim sneaks something dangerous onto an airliner, then use the back-scatter machines on every single Muslim or anyone who even resembles an Arabic or African Muslim. My point being of course that acts of terrorism are committed by people who fall into this very specific category more than 99.6% to 99.9% of the time. 92 year old Irish grandmothers should never have to be subjected to even the smallest degree of scutiny. If we’re not very specifically profiling, we’re f’n G-d darned stupid.

Jeff S

January 15th, 2010
9:07 am

Yes James, you are an idiot. But I guess thats all UGA can turn out, idiots.

AJ

January 15th, 2010
9:13 am

James D – Reread my post. Not sure why you lump me in with the people who are attacking you.

James D

January 15th, 2010
9:19 am

AJ,
Sorry, I was in a hurry with that last post. I agree with your statement 100%.

sam

January 15th, 2010
9:35 am

I’m betting AJ is not that attractive..

AJ

January 15th, 2010
9:38 am

Sam – I’d say I’m just above average. But I suppose attractiveness is in the eye of the beholder. But thanks for caring enough to send a personalized attempt to insult to me. You’re too kind.

Call me crazy, but I prefer a substantive discussion as opposed to insults or sad attempts at insults.

sam

January 15th, 2010
9:41 am

i lean more towards the latter….and if you’re looking for substantive discussions you came to wrong place.

Joan

January 15th, 2010
9:41 am

It amuses me to see how many people think their bodies are so much different than others, or that anyone cares what they look like, naked or not. Talk about egotism. Sure there are fat bodies and thin bodies, but big deal. As far as the arguments that this will make people horny. Get a grip. Even if it did, about a week into it the TSA person would be like the person who works in a candy shop–who won’t eat candy because they are sick of it. Think safety first, and profile and pat. I kind of like the patting down.

James D

January 15th, 2010
9:43 am

AJ,
You’re crazy. I prefer my discussion with a splash of delusion and a pinch of ignorance.
BTW, I’ve seen Sam and he is no David Hasselhoff.

Mark

January 15th, 2010
9:45 am

Marc Richardson: You must think that the terrorist are totally stupid. The moment you institute such profiling, the next bomber will be a blond-hair, blue-eyed caucasian. You think that cannot recruit them? Think again. They already went from Arabs to an African.

Eddie

January 15th, 2010
9:46 am

This week’s Newsweek has a pciture of an x-rayed female. Check it out and see what you think. Impossible to id the person, facial features don’t show up. Breasts however are shown in detail, still nothing to get excited about.

DirtyDawg

January 15th, 2010
9:51 am

Coupla questions. For those of us dealing with prostate problems that will, undoubtedly, require the wearing of pads, and/or ‘depends-style’ tightey-whities, or both, to protect against potential incontinence, just how will they show up on these screens? Will we then be required to strip just to prove that there’s nothing there but us? And further, is there a law, or a TSA rule, or whatever, that prohibits one from ‘flippin-off’ these screen-shots? I mean how about a ‘double-dip’ – both elbows extended, hands up, with middle index fingers of both calling the TSA #1? Would that result in one’s joining the ‘no-fly’ list? Hell, maybe if I can manage to get myself on that list I’ll have an excuse to never bother with flying again. If somebody wants me there, they’ll have to plan ahead for a train ride or send a car for me.

And finally, wonder how the TSA will deal with the ‘next move’ by potential terrorists – namely, having explosives shaped like genitalia? Will they strip-search anybody that’s, er, bigger than the average bear? Just asking.

James D

January 15th, 2010
10:00 am

I like your style DirtyDawg.

sam

January 15th, 2010
10:04 am

i drink like ‘the hoff’ and germans love me…