Critics of Obama way off base on this one

Yes — the not-so-bright, would-be terrorist from Nigeria got though international and domestic security mechanisms supposed to have stopped him long before the jerk lit his underwear afire before landing in Detroit.  And yes — the incident happened during the administration of President Barack Obama.  But the sniping at the president by Republicans, including former Vice President Cheney, and by conservative radio and TV commentators, borders on — if not passing into — asinine.

The criticism has included such childishness as blasting Obama for waiting a few days before making a national speech on the incident.  For heaven’s sake, the president was briefed on the incident from the moment it occured; he made statements almost immediately indicating his concern and that he was being regularly briefed; he took time to gather the facts and meet with his national security team; and then he appeared publicly to give a rational, measured, but hard-hitting response.  And for this, a former vice president criticizes him.

Partisanship truly has pervasively infected our political system when a reasonable, measured, factual, timely and substantive response by a president to a single security incident — the roots of which clearly indicate long-simmering problems that predated his tenure in office — is publicly blasted as irresponsible.  In point of fact, those levelling such counterproductive attacks are the ones engaging in irresponsible behavior.

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You Distort, We Deride

January 7th, 2010
2:59 pm

Chuck, I see you want to first disregard the facts, namely, that Bush was in office at the time of the 9/11 attacks, and secondly, in putting words into my mouth about Bush having planned 9/11. I accuse Bush of ineptitude of the highest level, but not of conspiracy.

Keep your rabid remarks to yourself.

jack morrow

January 7th, 2010
3:00 pm

Bull Bob Barr. You are wrong again. Dems never ended their sharp criticism of President Bush and heaped on lies and exaggerations. You have failed in Georgia and now are failing again.Hush!

no obozos

January 7th, 2010
3:00 pm

‘reasonable, measured, factual, timely and substantive response by a president to a single security incident’

Uh, didn’t Obama state this was an isolated incident ala the initial party line on the Fort Hood massacre? Now we learn this is an Al Queda sponsored attack with ties to the same imam that counseled the Fort Hood jihadist. Looks like a pattern of orchestrated attacks to anyone with a brain, but the WH propagandists could not wait to upload the teleprompter with soothing statements downplaying Islamic terrorist atta… uh, man caused disasters.

At least this time Dear Leader didn’t do a shout out and joke around with his union sycophants before addressing the subject.

JJ O'Neil

January 7th, 2010
3:01 pm

Bob Bob Bob…..You ain’t gettin’ freaky with Cynthia now is ya’. She might gettin’ in yo brain jus a littel.

Terry

January 7th, 2010
3:01 pm

This from Bob Barr, the person Sacha Baron Cohen made a complete fool of in Borat.

Gerry

January 7th, 2010
3:01 pm

Obama promised us utopia. The earth would heal and the waters would cease to rise. Damn yeah we should hold his feet to the fire. The dems, libs, and leftys were unrelenting in their attacks on W. Right from W’s recital of “My Pet Goat,” clowns like Barr, Michael More, Hairy Reid, and Nancy Boy Puglosi have been attacking W and his policies. Now it is their turn. The chickens have come home to roost! By the way, I think that the good Rev. Wright got his wish. God indeed damnned America. He sent Obama, the chosen one.

Curtis

January 7th, 2010
3:02 pm

Barr, you are either an old fool, or an old tool. The criticism of the “President” (I put it in quotes because he’s not acting like one) has been building over months due a pattern of behavior and attitudes that clearly reveals that Obama is NOT up to the task. Obama is quick to condemn our own military and our police in the completion of their duties, think of his quick condemnation of the police officer who arrested his racist Professor friend, and then turns around and states that we should not “jump to conclusions” about the Ft Hood attacker, whom he wishes to pass off as a “nut” instead of the terrorist he is. A terrorist, by the way, who was in touch with the SAME Imam in Yemen that coached the “diaper bomber”.
Obama’s team wishes to rename “terrorist acts” into some absurd term (”Man-caused disasters”) in order to make them more palatable. He appoints Napolitano to a position for which she has scant experience. He sets new and dangerous precedent about Mirandizing terrorists in a manner that prohibits them being properly interrogated so we can prevent further attacks.
I could go on and on. The criticism of Obama, far from being assinine, has been muted in comparison to what it could, and rightly, should be.
Palin once quipped that the “Presidency is no place for on-the-job-training”, and that is what we are seeing with Obama. He’s simply “winging-it”. And we citizens are likely to pay with our lives in the meantime.

PattieB

January 7th, 2010
3:03 pm

Seriously Bob? This president is the most incompetent man to ever sit in the oval office and I am quite fed up with anyone that tries to defend this amateur. This is about keeping me and my family safe and this president doesn’t have the first clue, you cannot defend this Bob, no way, no how.

freddy

January 7th, 2010
3:03 pm

I have never seen a bigger bunch of pansyass liberal apologists for the inexcusable behavior of their messiah…it is troubling to EVERYONE that this administration has brought common criminals into the cabinet; literally child pornographers into the Education Dept, and drag queens into the Commerce Department…What a shame your judgment is clouded by your foolish pride in having elected a completely uncredentialed fool…

Jake

January 7th, 2010
3:04 pm

First off, I’m neither liberal nor ignorant and i would be appreciative if you kept opinions of my character out of your posts. The only reason I have said anything remotely negative against someone here was in response to their flames on me. Having said that, ok my last couple were a little emotional, but I have very strong convictions when it comes to respect and calling a muslim a terrorist without proof is disrespectful. Innocent until proven guilty right? Guess not if you’re muslim. In regards to your remark about how my mindset will get many people killed, well hundreds of thousands of people die everyday many of them senselessly murdered; do you care about them? Not saying you should, but don’t make yourself sound like a humanitarian if you are not.

Jim

January 7th, 2010
3:04 pm

Yeah…the great “Uniter” has certainly brought our Country together…Obama is as partisan as they come….so partisanship, bi-partisanship are non-existent. Our government is corrupt and our freedoms are dwindling daily….

john

January 7th, 2010
3:05 pm

Bob, it is you who is off base, and like most others who follow the wagon carrying the purple coolaid, you just believe any criticism of this guy is “over the top”. Well, get this. We are going to keep bringing to the public attention, and in your case, inattention, everything that this inept chap does or does not do, just like you and your spewed for eight years of the past administration.

And get this, when and if we are hit again, regardless of blame which you and yours will attempt to reassign, the event will be on this administration, stud. Good folks will tell you to shut the hell up, but some of us will simply be amused by your sidewinding blah blah about everything but the truth.

You are probably not a bad guy, but your opinions suggest you are rotten to the core. A pity.

barry bondaroid

January 7th, 2010
3:05 pm

Bob, I think you are off base. Obama has been soft on terrorism, I think he now calls it Overseas Contigency Operations, what the hell is that. He is mirandizing terrorists and treated it as a criminal problem ala Bill Clinton which led to the first trade center attack, the U.S.S Cole, Khobar Towers and two U.S. Embassy bombings and with the exception of the World Trade Center attack made not one arrest. And if that was not bad enough do you remember Somalia. Just because Obama wants to make nice with the terrorist doesn’t mean they are going to somehow wake up the next day and say hey, lets not kill the super nice Americans. They hate, they hate America and Americans and have done so for many years, they hate us most of all because we are free. But if they only hold out maybe Obama will take what is left of our freedom away, he has done an admirable job thus far. By the way Bob, do you remember “selected but not elected” you act as if you, the liberals, are only victims in partisan politics. It was not a Republican that suggested Palin should be gang raped. It was not a Republican that suggested her 14 year old daughter be raped by Alex Rodriguez. It was not a Republican that wished death upon George W. Bush. You guys pushed off on the hate filled boat in 2000 and never stopped hating. You may act like a victim but trying reading your own words that are in print, words from the Daily Kos or for that matter the New York Times. Is Keith Olberman full of hate, Ed Schultz, Rachel Maddow or Minnesota’s own Angry Clown Al Franken. You people invented partisan hate so get off your victim horse Bob!

BobOhio

January 7th, 2010
3:05 pm

Not a chance in Hell Obama will be in office 8 years. he is 4 and out worse than Jimmy Carter!

SJ

January 7th, 2010
3:05 pm

Yes… but he was supposed to cause the world terrorists to quit doing all this with a hug and a smile.

You Distort, We Deride

January 7th, 2010
3:06 pm

1. Liberals and many (most?) independents still think that Bush’s tenure in office was an overt failure. We criticized him vehemently then, and nothing has transpired to diminish the criticism today.

2. Obama’s actions or the lack thereof are truly the source of criticism and objection by those inclined to believe he has erred egregiously in an arena where there is no margin for error. It’s a matter of opinion as to whether these criticisms are justified, but you’d have to be a fool to believe that Obama – OR Bush – are immune to criticism.

scott

January 7th, 2010
3:06 pm

Hey BOB….

That bomb goes off, its over for Dems. the next 8-10 years easy. Dems yucked it up at Bush for 8 yrs running, its the other sides turn, stop whining.

Go back to your cush job, pension, easy lifestyle Mr. “former Gov’t employee”……

A. S.

January 7th, 2010
3:07 pm

Yet, the only thing he could explain was the timing to address the nation (which, I agree is pretty stupid); however, the rest is a big deal and this Bob dude is just as ignorant as the rest.

torrin123

January 7th, 2010
3:07 pm

I’m sorry Bob, but public criticism is a healthy thing. Yes, some people will say some pretty stupid things in criticism (Glenn Beck jumping for joy at us not getting the Olympics) but what would Barr have us do? Not give any comment on el Presidente? I don’t think that’s a healthy option.

Look, Bush was criticized for a lot of things, and rightfully so. Why shouldn’t we turn the criticism to our current leader, Mr. Obama? I would say so long as the criticism is meant as criticism of actions, then we will be the better for it. Calling Bush an idiot or Obama a corrupt elitist isn’t benificial to anyone.

I’m sorry Bob, but these were viewpoints that caused me not to vote for you in 2008. You’re a good guy, I just disagree with you.

Elise

January 7th, 2010
3:08 pm

Barr…go back to the ACLU.

huh mama say?

January 7th, 2010
3:08 pm

I guess you must be hanging out with Kathy Griffin these days?

Newsprism

January 7th, 2010
3:08 pm

Amen, Bob Barr! Not that the far left blogoshpere is full of angels, but the far right has been bordering not just on the asinine, but on the treasonous IMO. Dick Cheney is damaging the country in an attempt to minimize his own failed policies, and the Limbaugh/Beck/Hannity crowd has zero credibility among thoughtful citizens. http://www.newsprism.com

Curtis

January 7th, 2010
3:09 pm

Why don’t we all just settle down and remember that Bob Barr = Babar (the elephant) and that’s why he’ll win the presidency in 2012.

Concerned American

January 7th, 2010
3:12 pm

The left just hates anyone who is effective at communicating conservative ideas. Newt Gingrich didn’t invent bipartisanship in the federal government, dummies. Funny how the Left is so vile when it is the conservatives winning public opinion in the face of big money media moguls and Leftist spin doctors using their wealth to subvert the truth at any cost. Having said so, President Obama deserves the chance to do his job from an administrative point of view, and should be able to do so unless you find a constructive way to do it better. If anything, I laud Mr. Barr for trying to bring some decency to politics.

Teresa

January 7th, 2010
3:12 pm

“Partisanship truly has pervasively infected our political system…”
You’re damn right it has. And we wild-eyed, conservative right-wingers learned from the best: left-wingers like you.

Chris Dominici

January 7th, 2010
3:12 pm

Bob, I loved you in Borat. Here… Not so much.

Mike

January 7th, 2010
3:13 pm

Newt Gingrich beat the Dems at their own game, ans they have been unable to cope. It is Democrats and their eanbling media that perpetrates the partisianship. The Republicans have a few pundits, but the lyong libs have the whole old media that has been whoring itself for the DNC for the last 40 years. The Democrats lost and they decided to go even NASTIER then they already where!
The Republicans are gonna whoop some lib ass again,and they deserve every bit of it that they get.
Democrats are liars and hypocrites… PERIOD!

Monty

January 7th, 2010
3:13 pm

And you, sir, are using the response to the incident to make yourself stand out from the crowd for political reasons. You want everyone to say, Hey, did you see what Bob Barr said about the terrorist incident? This is much more reprehensible than what you claim to be outraged at.

Tina Ferrer

January 7th, 2010
3:13 pm

Well, reading this article and associated posts is time I will never get back.

However, Mr. Barr. My niece was liquidated along with 90 other folks on flight 11 on 9-11 by way of nothing more than small box cutter. Not an X-acto knife but pin knife box cutter. Does this not concern you? I’m quite sure she wondered why Flight 11 was flying below the buildings of Manhattan when they should have been flying over Illinois on her way to see us that day. Yeah, I would say this was the furthest thing from her mind before she boarded that aircraft.Or are you of the opinion of – Well it didn’t happen this time did it? BO’s MO is no better and maybe worse than W’s. Time will tell but this will be last I read your work Sir.

Tina

Concerned American

January 7th, 2010
3:13 pm

The left just hates anyone who is effective at communicating conservative ideas. Newt Gingrich didn’t invent bipartisanship in the federal government, dummies. Funny how the Left is so vile when it is the conservative winning public opinion in the face of big money media moguls and Leftist spin doctors using their wealth to subvert the truth at any cost. Having said so, President Obama deserves the chance to do his job from an administrative point of view, and should be able to do so unless you find a constructive way to do it better.

Terry

January 7th, 2010
3:14 pm

Mr. Barr seems to forget that the handbook on attacking political opponents was written and perfected by the Clinton Machine. What goes around comes around and the little boys in short pants should stop whining, it is not becoming.

No Country for wimpy libs

January 7th, 2010
3:14 pm

Liberals have basically declared war on everything non-liberal and you want to decry some warranted criticism?
Liberal have shat upon everything the Founding Fathers stood for, and you want to cry about partisanship?

Us regular Americans see the idiot Liberals daily saying idiotic things such as “The system worked”. We see the FBI being told to marandize terrorists taken off of battle fields. We see the Government taking ownership of private corporations. And we see Congress-critters taking all the bribe money they can get.
The time is nigh.

JP

January 7th, 2010
3:14 pm

Uh oh, Bob, the Drudge bots have been directed here. The drone of right-wing pseudoconservative talking points will dominate now.

Good point, Bob. The petty attacks on Obama are of the same stupidity as those who bashed Bush for every little thing.

Charles

January 7th, 2010
3:14 pm

There is actually a libtard on here claiming that the republicans are standing in the way of cost control by not allowing abortion on demand. That is absurd on the face and disingenuous in principle. Obama owns this. His inattention to details as in, He has not gone line by line through any bill to cut out the pork, allowed this terrorist attack to occur. During his command and while he dithered away on date nites, trips to Copenhagen, Japan and waited 180 days to authorize what he had already indicated he agreed with we had the highest death rate in Afghanistan ever.

A. S.

January 7th, 2010
3:14 pm

Jake, sorry dude, you don’t get it. There’s a big difference between one-off murders and terrorist events; you can’t compare them. Furthermore, you can’t defend a President whom said we would be safe under his watch and now he’s playing the semantics game with us. I still think he’s a Trojan Horse and he’s done nothing to dissuade that view.

Tod

January 7th, 2010
3:14 pm

Is it just me or does this whole blog seem masturbatory , since this all happened 2 weeks ago…

Dave K

January 7th, 2010
3:15 pm

Bob, I think you’re way off base on this one, despite your Libertarian credentials. This was no penny-ante screw up by a lone nut job who decided to sew gunpowder in his pants and light it with a match. Panty Bomber was trained, equipped, and financed by Al Qaeda operatives. That a technical glitch in a sophisticated explosive device caused a fire rather than a devastating explosion is a matter of the utmost good fortune, but his intent and the intent of his handlers was to blow up an airplane in flight with as much additional loss of life on the ground as possible. Why else delay until the plane was on approach to a major metropolitan area? This was as audacious and dastardly an attack on US sovereignty as 9/11 or Pearl Harbor. In 1941 and in 2001 neither President took 3 days to get thoroughly briefed before reassuring the American people and calling for the appropriate action. They both took charge of the situation immediately, and publicly so. Perception IS reality. Both Obama and you seem to have minimized the seriousness of this incident, preferring to treat it as just some deranged guy with troubled and lonely dreams of making a big impact. Such an attitude results in both inaction and inappropriate reaction, like failing to immediately interrogate Panty Bomber thoroughly as a war criminal should be, or weakly dismissing the importance of the incident at first, or then treating Panty Bomber as a mere criminal suspect who should be lawyered up ASAP lest he be forced to make incriminating statements. Actionable intelligence has a very short shelf life, so any information Panty Bomber gives us as part of some future plea deal will be of little use to us. His Yemen connections will have long since evaporated into the desert air and his aides along the way will have disappeared back to their Al Qaeda cells to await a later call to surface again. We came within inches of disaster. Our good fortune at having just dodged disaster should not be an excuse to dismiss its gravity.

mose

January 7th, 2010
3:15 pm

Why were you silent when the Dems were attacking Bush for similar acts? You are giving us more proof that you are completely irrelevant. The current President’s lack of experience is reflected in his repeated blunders. The American public has caught on to this, which is reflected in all of the polls. The elites, or those that claim to be elite are too concerned with politics to call a spade a spade.

Jake

January 7th, 2010
3:15 pm

Read back, when did i defend him?

tony

January 7th, 2010
3:16 pm

Blogger Joel Edge is a tool to think a reference to “W” and his Katrina stupidity is any way comparable to the instance this article details. Unless of course, he’s referring to the fact that no president can or ever will be able to eliminate every attack, or attempted attack. If “w” team was really on the ball, it’s fair to say that 911 would have never happened. But do your really want to go there…nope!

Jake

January 7th, 2010
3:17 pm

I’m not the only Jake that has been posting, common name i hear

bandit

January 7th, 2010
3:17 pm

What are you high? The fact that Janet Napolitano was still DHS after saying the 9/11 bombers came thru Canada so then she could say the system worked perfectly and then Obama saying it was an isolated extremist is enough to justify any and all criticism.

mikeinfxbg

January 7th, 2010
3:17 pm

And your point is,what, Bob?

Hector

January 7th, 2010
3:18 pm

This was not a “would be” terrorist and he was bright enough to get on a flight and bright enough to push the plunger of the hypo. Only the fact that he didn’t have enough catalyst, and a passenger’s interference, prevented this plane from going down.
The fact is, and only an idiot can’t see….that this president does not value national security nor American lives as much as he values pushing his socialist agenda.
He is the one who appointed the heads of the departments who failed to communicate and his minions are the ones who should had a year to analyze our air security and didn’t.
His weakness on terror, his refusal to identify radical islam as our enemy, his release of gitmo prisoners to Yemen and bringing the rest to American shores, his obsession with giving enemy combatants and terrorists the same rights as Americans, and his apologies to muslim countries, all indicate how weak he is and his contempt for the citizens who elected him.

joe

January 7th, 2010
3:18 pm

I like the last paragraph the most. A plea to stop dirty partisan tactics followed by a partisan pot shot at the last administration. How very hypocritical of you.

Jake

January 7th, 2010
3:18 pm

It’s good to see only 3 of you disagree with me or the others just have the good manners to keep it to themselves either way good job guys.

Smarter than Old Bob

January 7th, 2010
3:20 pm

Bob is quite stupid to suggest the Christmas Bomber was not very bright. Killing a minimum of 300 people with one person who came all the way from Nigeria is a better ratio than the four terrorists it took to blow up the airliners which crashed on the Penatgon and in Pennsylvania. And if the plane landed on a hotel or apartment building, many more would have died. Poor Bob. Not too bright.

Ian

January 7th, 2010
3:20 pm

To Chris Broe… re “Becareful which part of the constiution you amend you just might get what you asked for: Chaos.”

Our Constitution does not provide for political parties at all, and thus there are no constitutional amendments needed to provide for 3rd parties (I hate the term “Third Party, in and of itself suggesting there are really only two)… in fact, I believe they already exist, but are simply kept out of debates and the public eye by a system that is controlled by “the big two”.

Michael

January 7th, 2010
3:20 pm

With all due respect, Mr. Barr, but Dick Cheney is speaking out on a subject that few, if any, people have as much expertise on. Of course, I’m speaking about lackluster responses to grave threats on our national security. The man is an expert on botched responses.

jack

January 7th, 2010
3:20 pm

Mr. Barr

Your comments are clear, thoughtful, balanced and if applied, will benefit America.

My question: Why weren’t you so thoughtful, balanced and interested in what was good for America when you were in office?

Are Republicans required to be so hyper-partison while actually in office?