Swine flu cover up?

Throughout this year, the end of which is fast approaching, dire warnings about the magnitude and severity of the swine flu/H1N1 virus swept repeatedly across the United States and much of the world.  The President’s Council of Advisors on Science and Technology last summer  raised the specter that the H1N1 flu strain could infect nearly one half the population of the entire United States. 

In typical knee-jerk fashion, Congress rushed to spend billions of taxpayer dollars to combat the looming catastrophe — appropriating close to $8 billion to fight the H1N1 flu virus this season.  The federal government already has spent nearly $6.5 billion purchasing and distributing doses of swine flu/H1N1 vaccine.  Tens of millions of doses of the vaccine that was specially developed and rushed through production to meet the perceived threat, were shipped to facilities in all parts of the country — where many millions now sit unused and unwanted.  One news network reported recently that perhaps as many as 250 million doses of swine flu vaccine may wind up being thrown away by the end of the flu season early next year. 

However, if one attempts to find out exactly what is happening to all that vaccine, one meets a brick wall.  How many doses have actually been administered?  What is the cost per dose?  How many doses are actually stockpiled by the federal government and by the states?  Repeated calls to the Centers for Disease Control (CDC) yielded no meaningful information in answer to queries such as these; Internet searches for specifics were similarly unproductive.  These questions are relevant for the taxpayers of this country who have been footing the bill for the government’s efforts to meet the threat that it defined, but which now appears not to have materialized.  Yet answers are as hard to come by as a Christmas creche on a town square.

The CDC, which earlier this year appeared eager to offer information and opinion highlighting the impending swine flu catastrophe, is now strangely silent when probed about what has happened to all that medicine it said was essential and which it claimed we absolutely had to buy.  An organization which prides itself on the ability to define, track and defend against all manner of diseases and other threats to Americans’ health, now is unable to answer basic questions about what has happened to billions of dollars worth of vaccines that it said were needed immediately if not sooner.

Could it be the Obama Administration doesn’t want the American public — the taxpayers who pay for Washington’s spendthrift ways — to know how much money has been wasted already in this effort, and how much will be wasted in the near future on unused and unwanted flu vaccine? 

This is the same government that is pressuring Congress to rush through legislation that would give it effective control of virtually the entire American health care system.  Accurate information on the degree to which it miscalculated and overreacted to one season’s flu problem, wouldn’t help that agenda right now, would it?

161 comments Add your comment

Whatever

December 11th, 2009
7:18 am

Unused and unwanted? Where do you get your information? Please link because I don’t believe you. Based on my own experiences I can’t find the dang vaccine to give it to myself and my kid. Because of a limited supply and a high demand…according the clinics and other vaccine administrators I’ve called.

This column smells strongly of cray cray.

Whatever

December 11th, 2009
7:26 am

CDC strangely silent? Uh…what’s this?

http://www.cdc.gov/H1N1FLU/

Oh, it’s a whole website dedicated to H1N1.

Supply status unavailable? What’s this?

http://www.cdc.gov/h1n1flu/vaccination/vaccinesupply.htm

Oh, it’s supply tracking site.

Geezus……

Whatever

December 11th, 2009
7:26 am

Why is my linked-filled post “awaiting moderation”? Hey, it’s a conspiracy…Barr doesn’t want anyone to see contradictory evidence. Naw…that’s cray cray…

Whatever

December 11th, 2009
7:28 am

Nono

December 11th, 2009
7:33 am

It took all of two seconds for me to locate the status of the vaccine supply on the internet. http://www.cdc.gov/h1n1flu/vaccination/vaccinesupply.htm

Methinks you’ve been watching too much Fox News lately.

Whatever

December 11th, 2009
7:35 am

Nono, you can see I’ve got three posts on here…well, I’ve actually got another. My second post is actually the links to CDC’s H1N1 site, refuting how they’re so silent about this. And to the vaccine supply page. But…it’s awaiting moderation. Thank you for getting yours through.

MrLiberty

December 11th, 2009
7:35 am

First, just because the vaccine is in high demand by the sheeple doesn’t mean it is at all needed. That is part of the point Bob is also trying to make. Consider as well that a couple of years ago nations all over the world got suckered into buying millions of doses of Tamiflu against the non-existent bird flu. This drug is only marginally effective against the swine flu but is totally ineffective against the normal seasonal flu. These supplies (which these stupid governments paid billions for) expire this year and next. So then along comes H1N1 conveniently when they need to show that they were not complete idiots and giant wealth transfer vehicles for the profits of big Pharma. A little too convenient if you ask me.

The take home message from all of this is that government cannot be trusted at all. They are owned, lock stock and barrel by big business and use their power to enslave us all for the benefit of their friends.

But let’s look back a few years and see that republican governments (like the one Mr. Barr so happily supported) also gave us the big lie of WMD. The Swine Flu of its time. Just another wealth transfer scheme to take money from the hard working taxpayer and give it to the military/congressional/industrial complex.

Wake up folks, government is not your friend, and it doesn’t change just because you change the party in power.

Whatever

December 11th, 2009
7:37 am

I also tried to post just the links with no sarcastic commentary but both times those posts just…DISAPPEARED. They’re not even awaiting moderation. They’ve been booted to whatever spam queue he’s got on here. Wonder if the filter includes “H1N1″? Naw….that’s cray cray…

Whatever

December 11th, 2009
7:40 am

BTW, just FYI…the “scare” with H1N1 is that it contains DNA from both the “bird” and “swine” and “people” flu viruses. In other words, it’s a mutant. Right now it’s not a very dangerous one. But, since it already has bird flu DNA the fear is that it will go back into the birds, pick up the dangerous parts of bird flu…the scary parts…and then voila! We now have a strain of H1N1 that is super dooper deadly AND easily transmitted from human to human.

And that’s why they so want us to get vaccinated, hoping to kill it before it goes back to the birds.

Dave Briggman

December 11th, 2009
7:42 am

Why would anybody with a body temperature of about 98.6 degrees give either themselves or their children a vaccine that was tested on only 500 people?

Maybe you haven’t seen the CBS News investigative reporter who has not only been stonewalled by the federal government on data related to Swine Flu, but determined that of all tested who presumably had Swine Flu, the actual numbers were 1-3% of those tested…most had just an upper respiratory infection.

Whatever

December 11th, 2009
7:43 am

It’s a good thing I didn’t waste a lot of taxpayer money going after a sex scandal….I mean using a sex scandal to whip up emotions in the American people so I can further my own agenda….yeah, good thing.

Dave Briggman

December 11th, 2009
7:46 am

Uh, “whatever”…the impeachment of President Clinton was because he LIED to a federal grand jury. Some people you can’t even spoonfeed knowledge.

Whatever

December 11th, 2009
7:46 am

Right….used a sex scandal to get the people’s support to further your own agenda….that’s what I said.

Dave Briggman

December 11th, 2009
7:49 am

And “whatever”, your assertion that H1N1 is now dangerous and easily transmitted amongst humans is without any basis in fact. The labs had a hard time even getting that virus to grow in labs, which is why they could produce vaccines in sufficient quantity — assuming it was really ever needed.

At $600/test (which is a basic DNA test called “PCR”) doctors aren’t ordering tests and the federal government has stopped counting so as not to be so thoroughly embarrassed, AGAIN.

Whatever

December 11th, 2009
7:50 am

No, I didn’t say it was NOW dangerous…I am saying that the scientists’ fear is that it will become dangerous if it goes back into the birds and mutates again…READ, man, READ!

Dave Briggman

December 11th, 2009
7:52 am

Your scientists are…global warming alarmists?

neoCarlinist

December 11th, 2009
8:05 am

Mr. Liberty, what are you doing between 2012 – 2016? Good points all around and I thank you for adding “congressional” to the military-industrial complex. What is the famous quote about the “devil’s first order of business was convincing people he does not exist.”? The same with the gub-ment. Astute, cogent arguments are dismissed as “conspiracy nut rantings” (thanks 9/11 crowd and “birthers”), while it is “business as usual” for the pimps in DC.

Whatever

December 11th, 2009
8:14 am

Nice, Dave….when it doubt, go with hyperbole. Strong, time-honored strategy.

Road Scholar

December 11th, 2009
8:18 am

I received the swine flu vaccine last week. NO problems with any side effects. Stats published show very little side effects…some high temps and body aches…no flu.

Let the stupid not get their vaccine. Mostly only the children a young adults appear to be affected. Darwin was right!

PS I got it at a CVS and my health insurance paid it in full ($15) as well as the normal vaccine ($25).

Whatever

December 11th, 2009
8:20 am

FYI, Dave, my scientists are also your scientists….I got that info from talking to neighbors of mine who work in the flu division at CDC.

http://www.cdc.gov/eid/content/15/6/966.htm

But here’s just plain old social media coverage…which is always the tip of the iceberg:

http://www.medpagetoday.com/Pulmonary/URIstheFlu/17142

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/34065140/ns/health-cold_and_flu/

http://www.examiner.com/x-7070-Web-Buzz-Examiner~y2009m6d17-New-H1N1-virus-mutation-found-what-it-means

http://english.cctv.com/program/newshour/20091111/103051.shtml

Aquagirl

December 11th, 2009
8:56 am

Oh Lord, here come all the anti-vax nuts.

Whatever

December 11th, 2009
9:18 am

Another comment, in response to Dave’s hyperbolic chamber of nonsense, is “awaiting moderation”.

Robert Littel

December 11th, 2009
9:36 am

After reading the comments above, I have to conclude Mr. Barr got his “information” from Fox (faux, fake, fraudulent……..) News. I’ll bet after reading the responses above, he is sitting there with the same look on his face as when he was punked into believing the cheese he was sharing, and in the process of swallowing, with the “representative from Kazakhstan “, was in fact made from his own wife’s breast milk.

leeh1

December 11th, 2009
9:52 am

First, because this is an evolved strain of the flu, people who believe in Creation science and not in evolution shouldn’t take any vaccines. Since the virus doesn’t mutate, then the Creationists should not believe in the vaccine, either. Here is a chance to stand up for your beliefs, and to risk your young children as well.

2) To the evolutionists, this allows for the benefit of the human species and out gene pool by killing off the stupid.

3) those who can’t find out about where and when the vaccines are given, such as Bob Barr, who can’t find out anything about it on the Internet, should also note #2 above.

Swampdawg

December 11th, 2009
9:56 am

Slick Willie was right… This is the Biggest Fairy Tale That I Have Ever Seen in My Life”! Thanks to ABC, CBS, NBC , CNN, the Sweds, and a cast of other Socialists! The American Public continues to be soooo naive. When will they see the light?

Bicycles

December 11th, 2009
10:09 am

I was unable to determine how many vaccines have been administered, only what has shipped with the links above. I want to know how much money was wasted on shevled/unused vaccines. They are a few days late delivering vaccines to make a difference anyway.

Whatever

December 11th, 2009
10:17 am

Bicycles – EVERYBODY knows that to get information about how many doses are administered you have to call the State Health Dept. The only people who really know how many are administerd are the doctors/hospitals. They, in turn, should report to their State Health Dept, who in turn may report to CDC.

CDC may be the world premier health institute but it doesn’t have AUTHORITY over State Health Dept. It can only recommend and advise.

Geesh.

The American People

December 11th, 2009
10:38 am

Obama and his cronies have been covering up those recovery.org numbers quite nicely so I am sure they are more then capable of covering this up too. An unprecedented disgrace.

Chris Broe

December 11th, 2009
10:58 am

grading Bob Barr: A+ for the Grey (Mother) Goose story.

Once upon a time, there were three-hundred-million little swine flu vaccines. They all hid behind a “brick wall” from partisan wolves, so all the huffing and puffing about accountability were in vain.

So the swine flu lives happily ever after.

Bravo, sir.

Jess

December 11th, 2009
11:06 am

We now have an administration and congress who only operate in crisis mode. Operating in this mode allows them a lot of wiggle room, especially with budjets. It allows them to attack without a plan, and without all the facts, which is the mode in which they feel most comfortable. This is why Obama is in Copenhagen which is billed as the last chance to save the planet. If we wait six months….life as we know it will cease.

Other than the bank bailouts, which were necessary, almost every other crisis would have been business as usual under most other administrations. However, under the cloak of “crisis” they have been able to spend hundreds of billions on pet projects which have very little impact on the so called crisis at hand.

Jess

December 11th, 2009
11:12 am

Swampdawg,

I disagree, I think the biggest fairytale, and by far the most costly, is going on right now in Copenhagen. This is the ground work for the largest transfer of wealth in history, and it’s based on a crisis which is supported by faulty, and fraudulant science.

swine flu

December 11th, 2009
11:19 am

Enter your comments here

Bicycles

December 11th, 2009
11:30 am

Whatever,
I guess I am one of those dumb people that can’t find the vaccine anywhere…
Not even places they no longer have restrictions on who gets it.
So, it’s entirely plausible 95% of the money we spent is to put vaccines on a shelf?

Audrey in Georgia

December 11th, 2009
11:37 am

Bob Barr, does this mean you and your family are not going to get vaccinations for H1N1 and the
“regular” flu? Jess, the crisis that you think we are not in, is really happening. Be sure to tell this
to the millions of people who are out of work.

Swampdawg

December 11th, 2009
11:58 am

Jess.. You are right!

My note was talking everything in general with the current administration is a Fairy Tale. Masterfully covered up by the Liberal Media. A 5th grader can see it just by watching one night’s news report on either channel.

devildawg

December 11th, 2009
12:24 pm

Theory: H1N1 was created by the US Federal Government and was released just south of us to combat the very nasty problem that all the drug cartels are presenting us with. Then, when it was quickly brought over the border by immigrants and drug runners, our government pressed the panic button. And everything since then has happened how it happened. Whaddaya think?

Fred

December 11th, 2009
12:42 pm

then get your shots you pussies. and pay for it too.

Rational Person

December 11th, 2009
12:57 pm

To find the H1N1 vaccine, you only have to Walgreens’ or CVS’ website and use their store locator.

Can’t guarantee that it’ll be very close to your house.

huckleberry

December 11th, 2009
1:04 pm

What’s a creche??

Hillbilly Deluxe

December 11th, 2009
1:23 pm

Whatever @ 7:26

I’ve found it’s easier to get posts through moderation if you don’t have more than 2 links per post.

T

December 11th, 2009
2:12 pm

Got the Swine Flu shot. Now I’m sick.

goawaywhatever

December 11th, 2009
2:35 pm

WHATEVER – do you read the news, do you read the truth. The swine flu is man-made, and one of the biggest farces yet to hit the United States. Who wins on this one – of course, as always, Big Pharm. Maybe the government should look more into big pharm and the corruption they spread, along with the FDA. It’s sad, but the American people are so being taken advantage of.

You're kidding, Bob

December 11th, 2009
2:45 pm

Wow. More crazy talk from Bob Barr. Totally shocking.

Here’s the thing about viruses: WE HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO IDEA WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN.

Luckilly, the swine flu was not as devastating as some had feared. But to have done nothing and risk a massive pandemic with huge loss of life would have been clinically insane.

And Republicans used to whine about everything that was blamed on George Bush. Right….H1N1 is Obama’s fault and it’s a conspiracy. What a nut…

john

December 11th, 2009
3:03 pm

I was not the least bit worried about this flu because I take good care of myself and I never worry about vaccines and whatnot. I am also very fiscally conservative and do not like the idea of government taxing an extremely healthy person such as myself to cover the medical expenses of people who do not have concern for their health.

But to be bitching about 6-8 billion dollars for disease prevention based on the precautionary principle (which is a conservative principle stating that the cost of mitigation is often far less than the costs associated with being unprepared) is asinine and detracts from more serious tragedies of fiscal imprudence such as bailing out corporations and screwing around in the desert.

While I much appreciate Mr. Barr’s fiscal prudence and limited government intervention, Mr. Barr would be wise to choose his battles more carefully. Issues of human-health and environmental protection are inherently conservationist and are vastly more important than most other federal spending yet they pale in comparison to other federal spending regarding the amount spent.

Whatever

December 11th, 2009
3:20 pm

What john said.

esa

December 11th, 2009
3:30 pm

If it was a smallpox outbreak, Barr would be telling us not to waste taxpayer money on the vaccine but just to spend more time hanging out around cows and milk maids instead.

Obviously, the government didn’t need to react to the pandemic. Private enterprise stepped in and produced all that vaccine with no taxpayer investment at all. Oh wait. Private enterprise didn’t produce any vaccine until the government identified the virus, developed the vaccine and paid private enterprise to produce it. It appears that the virus is not only alive and well but it has infected and killed the philosophies of Ayn Rand, Friedrich A. Hayek, Milton Friedman, the Austrian School, the Chicago School and Alan Greenspan.

10,000 people in the US have died of swine flu so far this year. I think I’ll be getting the vaccine next week when it is available at work. I hear it can even make me artistic. I would love to be able to paint.

saywhat?

December 11th, 2009
4:10 pm

Bob, you strike me as somebody who knows the cost of everything but the value of nothing. While it would be nice to have a crystal ball to see into the future, and know for a certainty how serious a flu epidemic may turn out to be. it just can’t be done with certainty. Tell me how that is the federal governments fault?

OedipusTax

December 11th, 2009
5:43 pm

“Whatever” has had about fifty posts here, of all the same drivel, and he whines, moans, complains, says the same thing over and over again, and still nothing satisfies him. He behaves as a spoiled child.

Regarding H1N1, it appears about to be ranked with Y2K. A non event for most of us.

saywhat?

December 11th, 2009
6:10 pm

Better to have the vaccine and not need it, than need it and not have it.

Steve

December 11th, 2009
7:33 pm

My 70 y/o parents were denied vaccines because they were “too old”, but the vaccine was given to 1000’s of homeless at Turner Field on Thanksgiving . . .

joe

December 11th, 2009
8:59 pm

Steve, older persons are thought to have some residual genetic immunity because of their closer proximity to the 1918 flu outbreak. On the contrary, homeless people are considered a high-risk group. The intention of your (local?) government was likely not to offend the elderly (as this is a key voting bloc), nor to be altruistic and help out some homeless people; rather their intention was to reduce costs by vaccinating those were most likely to get sick and walk into ERs, (uninsured of course) for treatment and run up costs for the local taxpayers.

Whatever

December 11th, 2009
10:37 pm

Excuuuuuuse me, but “Whatever” is a chick. And mostly I whined and moaned because my multiple attempts to post links to vaccine info were “awaiting moderation”, which I learned is due to listing too many links in one post.

But, hey, no matter what you can’t really argue with the content of those links…or my summary of what’s really the worry about H1N1….or how it’s State Health Dept that are really in charge of vaccine distribution, etc.

Sure, ignore all that…stick your head in the sand.

Whatever

December 11th, 2009
10:39 pm

Steve, I don’t believe you.

You’re either a liar or you just plain old misunderstand. There is no “too old” for vaccines. The very first people to get them are the very young and the very old and the rest of us are denied when supplies are short.

Another scenario is that the clinic, or whatever, your parents went to is engaging in unethical practices that can lead to revoking their license to distribute the vaccine and you should report them.

ZorkDude

December 12th, 2009
1:04 am

I will say that almost every statistic I read from newspapers about the # of deaths is completely inconsistent with the CDC web site information. Its Way Way Way overstated

Ed

December 12th, 2009
1:39 am

Isn’t it great to have hindsight. This is one of those no win situations with respect to the government’s actions. As another poster noted, although much is known about the flu, we can’t predict what will happen in the future with certainty. What WAS known at the time the vaccine planning began was of great concern. A new variant of the virus for which a large % of the population appeared to have no immunity, and which initially appeared to cause disproportionate deaths among relatively healthy individuals.

Now, it turns out to not be as bad as feared (so far), and all of you folks who were critics beforehand are congratulating yourselves for being right. If it had turned out the other way, and it was more virulent, we’d be hearing a different story. The fact that it isn’t as bad as worst-case scenarios doesn’t really vindicate the critics. The truth is, few authorities said it would definitely be a problem, what they said was it had all the characteristics that make us concerned that it could be. It may still yet mutate in an unexpected way.

As for you folks talking about conspiracies, big pharma, and so on…not much I say will convince you otherwise, but I have several friends who work at CDC and in public health. These are smart men and women who work hard, do research, and think about tough problems. They are trying their best with the information they have about the virus to make risk/benefit trade-offs. As I said at the start of this post, hindsight can make you feel brilliant. As for me, I’m much more comfortable knowing that in consideration of the idea that many 10,000s of thousands more people could have been dying, the individuals at the CDC (not “the government”) who also have kids, families, and pay taxes (and some are conservatives, some are liberals, and some are libertarians) — those folks made the best decisions they could with the information they have.

ZorkDude

December 12th, 2009
11:37 am

CDC should be disbanded. It is a completely useless agency. We did OK for hundreds of years without them.

Chris Broe

December 12th, 2009
12:29 pm

Barr’s piece today, which exposes the mistakes we are making distributing the swine flu vaccine will help us in the future when the inhalation form of PMS finally mutates into the general population. The inhalation form of PMS came into being when Al Queda did all that reckless research into bio-weapons. This airborne menace is the principle reason that the Sunni Insurgents in Iraq stopped supporting Al Queda and became our allies. They say it’s only a matter of time before the inhalation form of PMS mutates, so we’re gonna need vaccines, and we’re gonna need them fast.

Sometimes we forget the invaluable service that journalists like Bob Barr provide. Blog on, Mr. Barr, and godspeed.

CBR

December 12th, 2009
3:32 pm

Found this link, information while searching on ‘CDC vaccines conflict of interest:’

“Conflict of Interest and Vaccine Development

In August 1999, the Committee on Government Reform initiated an investigation into Federal vaccine policy.1 This investigation focused on possible conflicts of interest on the part of federal policy-makers. The Committee conducted an extensive review of financial disclosure forms and related documents, and interviewed key officials from the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC).

In the course of the investigation, the committee discovered that many individuals serving on two key advisory committees had financial ties to the pharmaceutical companies that manufacture vaccines. Often, these individuals were granted waivers to fully participate in the discussions that led to recommendations on vaccine licensing and adding vaccines to the Childhood Immunization Schedule.

Under federal law, members of advisory committees are required to disclose any financial conflicts of interest and recuse themselves from participating in decisions in which they have an interest. The Committee’s investigation determined that conflict of interest rules employed by the FDA and the CDC were weak, enforcement was lax, and committee members with substantial ties to pharmaceutical companies had been given waivers to participate in committee proceedings.

The Committee noted several specific problems, including:

*
The CDC routinely granted waivers from conflict of interest rules to every member of its advisory committee.

*
CDC advisory committee members who were not allowed to vote on certain recommendations due to financial conflicts of interest were allowed to actively participate in committee deliberations and advocate specific positions.

*
The Chairman of the CDC’s advisory committee until recently owned 600 shares of stock in Merck, a pharmaceutical company with an active vaccine division.

*
Members of the CDC’s advisory committee often left key details out of their financial disclosure statements, and were not required to provide the missing information by CDC ethics officials.

Regarding the FDA and CDC approval of the controversial rotavirus vaccine in 1998 and 1999:

*
3 out of the 5 FDA advisory committee members who voted to approve the rotavirus vaccine in December 1997 had financial ties to the pharmaceutical companies that were developing different versions of the vaccine.

*
4 out of the 8 CDC advisory committee members who voted to approve guidelines for the rotavirus vaccine in June 1998 had financial ties to pharmaceutical companies that were developing different versions of the vaccine.

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The rotavirus vaccine was pulled from the market one year after approval, after it was found to cause severe bowel obstructions.”

CBR

December 12th, 2009
3:39 pm

Some information on Tamiflu, from a mainstream pharmaceutical product information site, http://www.drugs.com:

You should not use Tamiflu if you are allergic to oseltamivir.

Before taking Tamiflu, tell your doctor if you have used a nasal flu vaccine (FluMist) within the past 2 weeks, or if you have:

kidney disease;
heart disease;
lung disease;
a condition causing swelling or disorder of the brain; or
any other serious disease or health problem.

Vaccines may be harmful to an unborn baby and generally should not be given to a pregnant woman.

Tamiflu side effects

Stop using Tamiflu and get emergency medical help if you have any of these signs of an allergic reaction: hives; difficulty breathing; swelling of your face, lips, tongue, or throat; a red and blistering or peeling skin rash. Some people using oseltamivir have had rare side effects of sudden confusion, delirium, hallucinations, unusual behavior, or self-injury. These symptoms have occurred most often in children. It is not known whether Tamiflu was the exact cause of these symptoms. However, anyone using this medicine should be watched closely for signs of confusion or unusual behavior. Call a doctor at once if you or the child using Tamiflu has any of these symptoms.

Less serious Tamiflu side effects may include:

nausea, vomiting, diarrhea;
dizziness, headache;
nosebleed;
eye redness or discomfort;
sleep problems (insomnia); or
cough or other respiratory symptoms.

This is not a complete list of side effects and others may occur. Call your doctor for medical advice about side effects. You may report vaccine side effects to the US Department of Health and Human Services at 1-800-822-7967.

CBR

December 12th, 2009
3:40 pm

Another one found while searching:

Government’s Claims Unjustified and Deliberately Misleading:

Gale and Null mention two distinguished health experts who have gone on the record to rebut government scare tactics.

“Dr.Anthony Morris, a distinguished virologist and former Chief Vaccine Officer at the U.S. Federal Drug Administration (FDA), states that “There is no evidence that any influenza vaccine thus far developed is effective in preventing or mitigating any attack of influenza” and that
“The producers of these vaccines know they are worthless, but they go on selling them anyway.”And in November 2007, the UK newspaper The Scotsman, made public warnings by the inventor of the “flu jab,” Dr. Graeme Laver. Dr. Laver was a major Australian scientist involved in the invention of a flu vaccine, in addition to playing a leading scientific role in the discovery of anti-flu drugs. He went on record as saying the vaccine he helped to create was ineffective and [that] natural infection with the flu was safer

http://www.foodconsumer.org/newsite/Non-food/Miscellaneous/what_the_inventor_of_the_flu_shot_now_thinks_of_the_vaccine_1711.html

CBR

December 12th, 2009
3:41 pm

Genetically engineered vaccines: ‘Inherently unpredictable and possibly dangerous’
http://www.twnside.org.sg/title/twr127c.htm

“In recent years, genetically engineered vaccine strategies have been rushed into common use within such fields as medicine, veterinary medicine and fish farming. Some scientists contend that such vaccines are totally innocuous. But a recent and major research report by Professor Terje Traavik reduces the ‘safe technology’ to sheer naive optimism, and warns in conclusion that ‘many live, genetically engineered vaccines are inherently unpredictable (and) possibly dangerous.’ Martin Jalleh highlights the compelling findings of the report – which make the arguments for genetically engineered vaccines look frail and move Traavik to call on the scientific community to go beyond the ‘Holy Grail’ of medicine.”

Why are so many are critical of genetically engineered crops, but many do not appear to be aware of problems folks say are associated with various genetically engineered components being used in vaccinations, pharmaceuticals?

CBR

December 12th, 2009
3:43 pm

Testimony by Gary Null at the New York State Assembly in October against the mandatory flu vaccination order for health care workers. This quote comes from the last minute of the last video clip:

‘And I might mention, I keep hearing everyone say the expert panel agreed that there was no connection, I heard it earlier in the day, between vaccines and autism. But I happened to actually go to the research and I found that that was absolutely not true. In fact, of the members of the panel of that vaccine oversight committee, thirteen members of the committee said that there was a connection, they had no vaccine or drug company affiliation, the small percentage that said that there was not a connection all had vaccine or drug company affiliations. And I am surprised that that information has not been made available. I also have all the studies on the sicknesses that children have developed when they have taken the flu vaccines, and all of these separate studies. They are all peer-reviewed.’

Part 1: Gary Null Speaking Out at the NYS Assembly Hearing, 10-13-2009:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3XlJB7J5-o&NR=1

Part 2: Gary Null Speaking Out at the NYS Assembly Hearing, 10-13-2009:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ch5OuzB9L48&feature=related

Part 3: Gary Null Speaking Out at the NYS Assembly Hearing, 10-13-2009:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tAgWO2yq1k8&feature=

CBR

December 12th, 2009
3:48 pm

Swine Flu Alert — Shocking Vaccine Miscarriage Horror Stories
Posted by: Dr. Mercola
http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2009/11/28/Shocking-Swine-Flu-Vaccine-Miscarriage-Stories.aspx

CBR

December 12th, 2009
3:48 pm

Deadly Immunity: Robert F. Kennedy Jr. investigates the government cover-up of a mercury/autism scandal
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/story/7395411/deadly_immunity/

CBR

December 12th, 2009
4:01 pm

And in case you missed this, on more awful junk science in relation to the whole ‘bird flu’ scam, this is a good one.

GM chickens to beat bird flu
http://www.gmwatch.org/latest-listing/1-news-items/9989-gm-chickens-to-beat-bird-flu-31102005

Wait! Where is the article on how some are talking about putting swine flu vaccines in genetically engineered corn? Folks say so folks can just be so lucky and just get this in their corn flakes? Swine flu coming soon in your corn flakes? Huh? Many folks say if more folks better understood the history of drug scams and financial conflicts of interest corrupting health guidelines, and knew more about all of the misguided things going on in much biotech, they might be able to put this whole ’swine flu’ **** in perspective?

CBR

December 12th, 2009
4:06 pm

This one is funny as heck, if you have not seen this one already.

Eye on the Flu Shot
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I88fDGPA7wM

CBR

December 12th, 2009
4:12 pm

Here is a link to this CBS study which was looking at actual swine flu tests, from folks who were thought to have had the swine flu, and which looks at the test results and shows that the majority of folks tested did not have the swine flu, or any kind of flu at all? According to this, in Georgia, only two percent of tests came back positive for swine flu, in this study? Two percent of suspected cases actually were confirmed as swine flu? Okay. So a lot of folks are more interested in all of these other things which can cause respiratory illness, like the majority of the time, maybe, folks say? This goes on to say something about so make sure to get your vaccine? Other folks looking at this say, well these numbers clearly do not indicate a pandemic, now testing is not being done anymore anyway, so numbers being put out by some about how many folks have been infected, have had this, and so on, don’t mean much, are based on assumptions, assumptions which are not backed up by these actual test results?

Swine Flu Cases Overestimated?
CBS News Exclusive: Study Of State Results Finds H1N1 Not As Prevalent As Feared
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/10/21/cbsnews_investigates/main5404829.shtml

Chris Broe

December 12th, 2009
4:14 pm

CNN just reported that another pair of Reeboks has stepped forward to claim that it’s been Tiger’s weekend sneaker. Nike had no comment.

CBR

December 12th, 2009
4:15 pm

This site has a lot of good information. Check out their news section.

Alliance for Human Research Protection
http://www.ahrp.org

CBR

December 12th, 2009
4:16 pm

And of course, GM Watch, http://www.gmwatch.org. Check out their news archive also.

CBR

December 12th, 2009
4:20 pm

Okay, posting this one again, with only one link, so it does not get held up. This is in three parts, the other clips should pop up after watching the first and second ones.

Testimony by Gary Null at the New York State Assembly in October against the mandatory flu vaccination order for health care workers. This quote comes from the last minute of the last video clip:

‘And I might mention, I keep hearing everyone say the expert panel agreed that there was no connection, I heard it earlier in the day, between vaccines and autism. But I happened to actually go to the research and I found that that was absolutely not true. In fact, of the members of the panel of that vaccine oversight committee, thirteen members of the committee said that there was a connection, they had no vaccine or drug company affiliation, the small percentage that said that there was not a connection all had vaccine or drug company affiliations. And I am surprised that that information has not been made available. I also have all the studies on the sicknesses that children have developed when they have taken the flu vaccines, and all of these separate studies. They are all peer-reviewed.’

Part 1: Gary Null Speaking Out at the NYS Assembly Hearing, 10-13-2009:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3XlJB7J5-o&NR=1

Did the New York Civil Liberties get involved in this as well? Folks say this mandate was a violation of civil liberties, that many folks do not want junk science being mandated?

CBR

December 12th, 2009
4:28 pm

And in case folks missed this one:

60 Minutes — 1976 Swine Flu Scam PART 1 of 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrTOXkyaFv4

CBR

December 12th, 2009
5:24 pm

Exporting Cures, Importing Misery
The sickening impacts of India’s pharmaceutical industry
http://www.utne.com/2005-03-01/ExportingCuresImportingMisery.aspx?page=2

CBR

December 12th, 2009
5:24 pm

Leonardo’s Choice
Genetic Technologies and Animals
Gigliotti, Carol (Ed.)
2009, XXVIII, 256 p., Hardcover
ISBN: 978-90-481-2478-7
http://www.springer.com/philosophy/ethics/book/978-90-481-2478-7

CBR

December 12th, 2009
5:32 pm

Catastrophic immune response may have caused drug trial horror
17 March 2006
Source: http://www.newscientist.com
http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn8863-catastrophic-immune-response-may-have-caused-drug-trial-horror.html

“An investigation by New Scientist suggests the drug may have caused a super-immune response – sending white blood cells called T cells rampaging through the body destroying its own
tissues. Several experts contacted by New Scientist agree this is the most likely explanation for the terrible incident which put all six men in hospital intensive care in London, UK, with two in a critical condition. The victims, who were healthy, paid volunteers, are said to have suffered multiple organ failure.’

CBR

December 12th, 2009
5:36 pm

Harvard Medical Students Rebel Against Pharma-Ties
http://www.ahrp.org/cms/content/view/523/9/

Sara

December 12th, 2009
5:57 pm

I also wonder where you get your information. You indicate several things that appear absolutely, absurdly false. You give the impression that H1N1 is not as dangerous or widespread as it actually is, that somehow the “scare” is over and now we have all this vaccine that is just sitting around wasted. What total complete garbage!!! People are still dying from this virus – the vaccine seems to be effective, and I am grateful the government took drastic action to get it made and distributed. I am not in a high risk group, but I could still get the virus, and could potentially die from complications. I want that vaccine ASAP. Where are all these wasted doses? Here in Oregon, I still can’t get it! Sign me up!!! This column is one big pile of nutcase conspiracy irresponsible filth!!!

CBR

December 12th, 2009
6:59 pm

Don’t blame Obama — all of this flu vaccination, pandemic flu hype was already in the works long before he got into office, folks say? Bush allocated billions of dollars for flu related things, vaccinations, no? And Donald Rumsfeld is/was involved with one of the companies which holds a co-patent on Tamiflu? Democrats’ efforts in the past to further regulate the pharmaceutical industry was derailed by Republicans?

Ed

December 13th, 2009
3:03 am

CBR — you trust comments by Gary Null about something he supposedly heard? Apparently a guy who hosts a radio show and runs a web site for alternative medicine is more trustworthy than the vast mass of peer reviewed literature.

As far as the vaccine and autism connection — this is just a very tired non-controversy. For the longest time the anti-vaccine folks kept saying it was the mercury (a miniscule amount in some vaccines). Unfortunately for that hypothesis, mercury started being removed from most vaccines in the 1990s, so that now the vast majority of vaccines don’t have it. The exposure to mercury in vaccines has been plummeting for a decade. Now, you don’t have to be scientist to predict — if mercury in vaccines causes autism, and you start removing it, what should happen? That’s right — autism rates should drop. But guess what? They have not. There hasn’t even been a little blip in the rate. Nothing — it continues upward. Vaccines don’t cause autism. Get over it and find another conspiracy.

david wayne osedach

December 13th, 2009
9:01 am

Here in San Diego they still don’t have enough vaccine for school children. The general public will get vaccinated after that. In January, February?

CBR

December 13th, 2009
10:13 am

Research supports link in autism to mercury

The St. Louis Post-Dispatch, Tina Hesman
Published December 13, 2004
http://www.ewg.org/node/16914

Children with autism may process mercury differently than most children, leaving them susceptible to damage from preservatives in vaccines and other sources of the heavy metal, according to a controversial new report released Monday.

The report, by the independent Environmental Working Group, highlights the research of S. Jill James, a professor of biochemistry and pediatrics at the University of Arkansas for Medical Sciences. James conducted blood tests on 20 children with autism and compared them with blood samples taken from 33 children who do not have autism. She found lower levels of a mercury-detoxifying chemical, called glutathione, in the blood of autistic children.

The enzyme also helps rid the body of other heavy metals that may damage cells and organs.

“Given an equal load of environmental toxicants, these kids wouldn’t be able to detoxify it or excrete it as well as the average kid,” James said.

[More: http://www.ewg.org/node/16914

CBR

December 13th, 2009
10:17 am

You can listen to Gary Null on the radio, on PROGRESSIVE RADIO NETWORK.

http://www.garynull.com/

CBR

December 13th, 2009
10:18 am

Research supports link in autism to mercury

The St. Louis Post-Dispatch, Tina Hesman
Published December 13, 2004
http://www.ewg.org/node/16914

Children with autism may process mercury differently than most children, leaving them susceptible to damage from preservatives in vaccines and other sources of the heavy metal, according to a controversial new report released Monday.

The report, by the independent Environmental Working Group, highlights the research of S. Jill James, a professor of biochemistry and pediatrics at the University of Arkansas for Medical Sciences. James conducted blood tests on 20 children with autism and compared them with blood samples taken from 33 children who do not have autism. She found lower levels of a mercury-detoxifying chemical, called glutathione, in the blood of autistic children.

The enzyme also helps rid the body of other heavy metals that may damage cells and organs.

“Given an equal load of environmental toxicants, these kids wouldn’t be able to detoxify it or excrete it as well as the average kid,” James said

CBR

December 13th, 2009
10:22 am

This is a very good one, which starts out showing some of the backwards, hick junk science history of vaccines.

Vaccine Nation-Gary Null Part 1 of 9
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bdF4AEYHRvY&feature=PlayList&p=35C06F3E017B09E9&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=29

CBR

December 13th, 2009
10:41 am

Another good one:

BIG PHARMA’S CRIME SPREE
http://www.ahrp.org/cms/content/view/653/109/

Fortunately, more and more smart folks are now talking about how we need much better drug safety analysis and drug approval standards? Folks say, first, the information doctors and the public gets about drug efficacy and safety is coming from the drug companies producing the drugs, and this is not acceptable; second, drug companies are not releasing all of their safety study data to the public, doctors, so how are folks supposed to exercise their right to informed consent? California tried to pass a bill a couple of years ago, which would have required that for any drug sold in the state of California *all* drug study safety data from drug companies must be made available to doctors and the public, no? This bill was defeated by drug industry interests? Now, fortunately, more and more folks are placing emphasis on this problem of not all of the study data being made public, and are pushing for better drug approval standards. Thank someone! Oh, from what I read, folks say there are many possible things in vaccinations which could cause a severe allergic reaction, and brain swelling, encephalitis, leading to brain damage? Not just mercury, folks say? And folks say folks are using genetically engineered components now in vaccines and folks really have no clue what these things might do in the body, over the long term, and so on? Just one big experiment? Well, with some of the genetically engineered crops, folks say these may even be causing our gut bacteria to mutate? May be causing micro-organisms in soil where these crops are grown to mutate? That once you muck with the DNA of a species, that species is basically on the way toward extinction? Once you muck with DNA, in such an offensive way, there is no putting it back together, and now such crops are contaminating other non-gmo crops, the contamination from open-air crops is also uncontainable?

CBR

December 13th, 2009
10:45 am

Yup, I have probably seen twenty different news reports from around the country, which state that there is low demand for the vaccine, some clinics got all set up and were expecting thousands of people and only a couple hundred showed up, that at times there were more volunteers there ready to deal with the big crowds that never appeared, and so on? Some polls showed that only 13% of folks in Germany wanted this swine flu vaccine crud, and only 17% in France wanted it? A majority of health care workers in the UK did not want it? Same thing in Hong Kong? Low demand reported in China also? And low demand reported in various places throughout the United States, as mentioned. And lots of reports on how swine flu is waning in the U.S., and how many vaccines will probably be thrown away, and how many seasonal flu vaccines are thrown away each year, also?

CBR

December 13th, 2009
10:56 am

And what about reports about how Poland refused the swine flu vaccine altogether? Is taht so? Said they were not going to give the drug companies legal immunity against adverse reactions to the vaccine, and would not be giving it to folks in Poland unless the drug companies responsible for these vaccines actually took responsibility for any harm coming from their products? That the drug companies should be accountable for this, and if not the drug companies, then maybe the EC should take responsibility for this? Is that so? If so, good for Poland! If these vaccines are so wonderful and so safe, why do these companies need legal immunity, why were they given such immunity in the U.S.? Lots of folks say, you don’t give otherwise healthy folks dangerous, ‘preventative,’ toxic crud, which has never actually been proven to work anyway, but which could kill or seriously injure them? And you certainly do not give toxic, dangerous drugs to those with compromised or unformed immune systems? That old folks, pregnant women, babies, those with many serious health problems, compromised immune systems, are the LAST people that should be given this? Folks say this whole swine flu thing started down in Mexico near a huge hog farm (thank you, NAFTA), where folks had been complaining about noxious FUMES from this hog farm, tons of animal waste, and were calling for an investigation into this, that folks were complaining of getting sick from noxious fumes from animal waste and NOT a flu? Noxious fumes from animal waste can cause ‘flu-like’ symptoms, and can even cause death at high enough levels, no? Why this would be called ‘flu-like’ symptoms and not ‘noxious gas from animal fumes contamination-like’ symptoms, I do not know? Folks die from noxious gases from manure lagoons, and so on, no?

CBR

December 13th, 2009
11:02 am

Folks say there is no real science behind statements being made now by some about how many folks have been infected may have been infected with this as they stopped asking folks for tests to confirm that folks actually had this a long time ago now, and that folks were told that they could diagnose this just based on symptoms, symptoms which could be indicative of many things? And folks say this is dangerous as folks with other serious problems are being misdiagnosed with swine flu, and their actual problem is going undiagnosed, in instances? There was one report of a woman who died from meningitis which went undiagnosed after she was told she had the swine flu? Folks want funds for comprehensive health care for people, not for one drug groups’ ’special’ drug campaign or another. Every individual is just that, an individual, with individual health problems, diets, environments, and so on, and blind, blanket diagnosis of disease, just based on symptoms which could represent a lot of different things, is not good science, is not good medical practice and is not good consumer protection?

CBR

December 13th, 2009
11:09 am

Folks say some prescription drugs can increase folks’ susceptibility to respiratory infection, chlorinated water can cause respiratory infection, swimming in or drinking contaminated water can also? Poor nutrition also, of course. What else? Pesticides, many other toxic chemicals, toxic cleaning supplies, even synthetic soaps? Lots of folks want more organic, small farming, more organic fruits and vegetables, less junk food all over the place, better nutrition in school food programs, more fresh fruit and vegetable juices, more natural, safe and effective, proven alternatives to many toxic prescription drugs, and not more drug industry scams and junk science?

Rational Person

December 13th, 2009
11:19 am

ZorkDude
December 12th, 2009
11:37 am

CDC should be disbanded. It is a completely useless agency. We did OK for hundreds of years without them.

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For hundreds of years, we had 50% infant mortality and an average lifespan of 40 years. Was that doing okay?

CBR

December 13th, 2009
11:19 am

And folks say watch out for alcohol-based hand sanitizers, that just two squirts of some of this stuff can kill a toddler? I would never use such stuff. I used all natural, vegetable based soaps, and find the fumes from synthetic soaps are disgusting enough to avoid that if at all possible? Ugh, you wash your hands with some of this stuff and you go around smelling like some toxic chemicals cuz you can not wash the stuff off of your hands. More emphasis on natural products, good nutrition to boost the immune system, and less on all of this animal-abusing, ancient hick, toxic chemical and gmo crud! Woohoo! More and more folks are finally starting to get it! And what about all of the environmental problems associated with all of these toxic chemicals used in so many drugs, more and more folks are now asking? Estrogenic chemicals (chemicals which mimic estrogen, pesticides, some prescription drugs, and so on) are ending up in our waterways and causing frogs and fish to be born with reproductive organ abnormalities, male fish are being born with ovaries? This is disgusting! Drinking water supplies are also being contaminated with all of this crud, and folks are now concerned about this also? Folks say, many areas of the chemical industry, including prescription drugs, need to be seriously cleaned up?

CBR

December 13th, 2009
11:51 am

And many folks want more wildlife, native plants, biodiversity, more good food and nature, and do not want a culture of demonizing nature and organics, organic and natural and nutritional approaches to care, and so on? Backyard and wild bird populations are too low, all of that ‘bird flu’ hysteria had some folks scared out of their minds, and killing ducks at ponds, not wanting birds in backyards, and so on? Folks say more folks need to plant native plants, do other things, to support backyard bird populations, which have plummeting in recent years? And something folks use in yards, I read, is killing birds? Some folks put little chlorine tabs in a bird bath? Huh? Don’t do that. I don’t know, but bird populations are not in good shape, birds are sensitive to pollution, have disrupted habitat, may not always have sources of good water, adequate nutrition, due to loss of native, plant biodiversity, and so on, folks say? And then folks were going nuts with fear, over this ‘bird flu’ hype and were killing them, as a result? Is that so? But folks say, folks may lure birds to back yards with bird feeders, but then unwittingly using some kind of toxic chemical in yards, which is not good for the birds? Okay.

CBR

December 13th, 2009
12:00 pm

Fumes from dairy cause neighbors to evacuate
by Stephanie Hemphill, Minnesota Public Radio
June 10, 2008
http://minnesota.publicradio.org/display/web/2008/06/09/farm/

CBR

December 13th, 2009
12:23 pm

Some folks are way more concerned with what they say are massive air and water pollution, mostly from industry, transportation, and other problems such as hunger, malnutrition, actual diseases which are killing five, six hundred thousand(?) folks annually, such as heart disease, other serious problems such as problems related to the health of folks’ circulatory systems, internal organs, associated with poor nutrition, lack of physical activity, inadequate hydration, a combination of things, and so on? Things which are affecting the largest number of people, right now, not at some future, possible date in time, folks say? We have way too many folks living off of junk food, in substandard housing, without transportation or communication, without good nutrition, without adequate clean water, actual things that are happening now, problems for which there are actual solutions, solutions which have been actually proven, and do not have time to worry about illogical, junk- or substandard, commercial interest science-based on a hypothetical, folks say? Folks say billions are being spent on all of this flu, vaccination junk, while how much was allocated for, say, organic farming and related nutritional and medicinal programs? How much? A couple million? 20 million? 100 million? Not much in comparison, in any case, folks say?

CBR

December 13th, 2009
1:42 pm

Clinics is Canada are closing out their schedules early due to lack of demand for swine flu vaccine? There was a big recall of a batch of swine flu vaccines, in Canada, which was connected to an unusually high number of allergic reactions, severe allergic reactions? Some approx. 170,000 doses were recalled? Reports are coming out that some swine flu vaccine trials are showing links between a second dose given to children and fevers in children? Is that so? Many folks say, there are many safe, natural approaches to cold and flu, and they are really not interested in any of this flu vaccine junk, at all? Also, reports of folks also losing interest in seasonal flu vaccinations, not just swine flu vaccinations?

CBR

December 13th, 2009
3:45 pm

Many folks also want restrictions on direct-to-consumer drug advertising, and say direct-to-consumer drug advertising on tv is only allowed in the U.S. and New Zealand(?), and many countries do not allow this, have restrictions against this? Folks say folks should get information about their condition and treatments from doctors, not from ads, and that this often leads patients to push their doctors to give them something they saw on tv, which a doctor may not think is the best drug or approach, which a doctor might not recommend, prescribe otherwise? Drugs for which there might be a safe or safer alternative, folks say? Folks are also concerned about lack of restrictions for direct-to-consumer drug advertising on the internet, while some online companies are looking for ways to make more money off of more drug ads online? Also, folks want restrictions on pharmaceutical company data mining of doctor’s prescribing habits for marketing purposes, as folks say this correlates with newer, more costly, and often less effective drugs, approaches being prescribed, employed?

Many folks would listen to Gary Null, and other natural health care advocates who do not support all of these vaccinations, rather than many vaccination pushing folks. Do I agree with everything he says about everything? I have not read everything he has written, of course — the man has written seventy books, has really done his homework on this and many other subjects, from what I can tell? I will agree with many folks who do not think that vaccination is a good approach to health, is not based on good science or good consumer protection guidelines, has never been actually proven to work using rigorous standards of analysis, and can be toxic and seriously injurious. Gary Null has done tons of research on vaccinations. About Gary Null, from his site, http://www.garynull.com/GNabout.php?abtflg=0:

Excerpt:

America’s leading health & nutrition expert

Alternative medicine & natural healing advocate

Award-winning talk radio host, documentary filmmaker & investigative reporter

Time magazine called him “The New Mr. Natural.” My Generation magazine dubbed him one of the top health gurus in the United States. For over three decades, Gary Null has been one of the foremost advocates of alternative medicine and natural healing.

A multi award-winning journalist and New York Times best-selling author, Dr. Null has written over 70 books on nutrition, self-empowerment and public health issues, including his most recent, Power Aging. His syndicated public radio show, Natural Living with Gary Null, earned 21 Silver Microphone Awards and is the longest-running, continuously aired health program in America (27 years). Currently, The Gary Null Show can be heard on the Internet at http://www.PRNcomm.net from 12:00 noon to 1:00 pm ET. Null also broadcasts on Mondays, Tuesdays, and Wednesdays on WPFW (89.3 FM) from 3:00 pm to 4:00 pm EST in Washington D.C. In addition, he can be heard in Los Angeles on Something’s Happening with Roy of Hollywood on KPFK (90.7 FM) from 12:00 am to 5:30 am PST. Lastly, Dr. Null can be heard on Sunday evenings on the Health Radio Network at 8:00 pm EST, broadcast over a growing national network of radio stations.

The Gary Null Show is not a “chit-chat” show but, rather, an on-air health forum featuring knowledgeable guests and well-researched scientific information that is presented objectively and in layperson’s terms. The program’s combination of provocative interviews, controversial commentary, and listener call-ins motivate listeners to change their lives for the better.

Gary Null holds a Ph.D. in human nutrition and public health science. He has been a consistent voice on how to live a longer, more vital life through work that embraces the body, mind and spirit. Gary believes that much of what our society accepts as inevitable markers of aging are actually manifestations of a preventable disease process. Gary’s philosophy has influenced countless Americans to achieve a healthier, more fulfilling lifestyle. He is also the author of the New York Times bestsellers, Get Healthy Now! and The Encyclopedia of Natural Healing.

CBR

December 13th, 2009
3:53 pm

Many folks also want restrictions on direct-to-consumer drug advertising, and say direct-to-consumer drug advertising on tv is only allowed in the U.S. and New Zealand(?), and many countries do not allow this, have restrictions against this? Folks say folks should get information about their condition and treatments from doctors, not from ads, and that this often leads patients to push their doctors to give them something they saw on tv, which a doctor may not think is the best drug or approach, which a doctor might not recommend, prescribe otherwise? Drugs for which there might be a safe or safer alternative, folks say? Folks are also concerned about lack of restrictions for direct-to-consumer drug advertising on the internet, while some online companies are looking for ways to make more money off of more drug ads online? Also, folks want restrictions on pharmaceutical company data mining of doctor’s prescribing habits for marketing purposes, as folks say this correlates with newer, more costly, and often less effective drugs, approaches being prescribed, employed?

Many folks would listen to Gary Null, and other natural health care advocates who do not support all of these vaccinations, rather than many vaccination pushing folks. Do I agree with everything he says about everything? I have not read everything he has written, of course — the man has written seventy books, has really done his homework on this and many other subjects, from what I can tell? I will agree with many folks who do not think that vaccination is a good approach to health, is not based on good science or good consumer protection guidelines, has never been actually proven to work using rigorous standards of analysis, and can be toxic and seriously injurious. Gary Null has done tons of research on vaccinations.

About Gary Null, from his site: http://www.garynull.com/GNabout.php?abtflg=0

CBR

December 13th, 2009
3:57 pm

Many folks also want *more* restrictions on direct-to-consumer drug advertising, and say current laws regulating consumer prescription drug advertising are way too lax, in the U.S.? What was that study that came out a couple of years ago which looked at drug advertising material and said that a majority of claims being made in a sample of ads they reviewed were not based in actual evidence-based medicine, science?

CBR

December 13th, 2009
4:09 pm

What else? Folks say hundreds of thousands of folks are dying from properly taken, properly prescribed drugs, and this is not acceptable? Too many folks are being injured by prescription and over the counter medications, too many adults and kids are also being injured unnecessarily by toxic chemicals, cleaners, pesticides, and so on, kept around the house, folks say? Folks want more poison control, more information on many poisons, on household toxic chemical products and hazards, and want more information and access to safe alternatives to prescription and over the counter drugs, as well as for toxic household chemicals, folk say? Folks want the U.S. to adopt the Precautionary Principle in relation to a wide range of toxic chemicals, including pesticides, herbicides, *and* prescription drugs, and so on? You can do a search on ‘the precautionary principle’ for more information about this. While most of the emphasis under the Precautionary Principle has been placed on other chemicals, such as pesticides, many folks also want prescription, synthetic drugs to also fall under this? Many folks would also like the EPA to also have jurisdiction over toxic chemicals used in prescription drugs, vaccinations, and so on?

CBR

December 13th, 2009
4:15 pm

Folks say hundreds of thousands of folks are dying *annually* from properly taken, properly prescribed drugs, and this is not acceptable? Okay. That’s it. Hope folks will listen to more smart folks like Gary Null.

KT

December 13th, 2009
6:47 pm

No matter how this H1N1 situation turns out, someone will find fault and scream bloody murder. If it mutates and becomes worse, people will scream that not enough was done to prepare for and combat it. If it turns out to be milder than projected, people will scream that it was a cover up and a hoax. Damned if you do prepare and damned if you don’t. It makes me ill that something like public health has become the usual, tired, political football.

am 58 years old; old enough to remember when the diseases that so many today dismiss as “not serious” or “just illnesses” were commonplace. There were no vaccines for them and people, children primarily, could and did get very, very sick and sometimes died from complications. My brothers, three and six years older than me, both got mumps and had a very rough go of it. It was definitely NOT “just an illness”. Another friend was exposed to rubella (German measles) while pregnant and her baby was affected (major birth defects for the baby – but, hey, it’s just a “mild” disease for the child who wasn’t vaccinated, so what difference does it make?). And, lastly, anyone who has ever had shingles as an adult will definitely argue that it is not an incidental sickness; it is a painful blistering skin rash which comes from the varicella-zoster virus, the virus that causes chickenpox.

These diseases are no longer common. Why? Because we vaccinate against them. Those who choose not to vaccinate are incidentally protected due to an effect called “herd immunity” – because I vaccine MY children, your child will not get the disease. However, health officials are beginning to see resurgences of these diseases in areas where greater numbers of people do not vaccinate. And, of course, these kinds diseases are still rampant in the third world where they cannot afford to vaccinate.

On a larger scale, polio (poliomyelitis is a virus, incidentally), which is now basically eradicated in the US due to vaccination, affects nerves and can lead to paralysis and death. I remember pictures of people in iron lungs for respiration because their ability to breathe was destroyed. My high school science teacher was crippled and used crutches due to PPS (Post-Polio Syndrome). I vividly remember the excitement when we were all lined up and given the first oral polio vaccine on sugar cubes. That vaccine was further refined and, as a result, we do not see polio in the US anymore. I’m also the last generation which bears the smallpox vaccination scar – we wiped it out for you. Imagine – a disease that has been totally eradicated from the entire earth. And smallpox was no small, insignificant illness; do the research and you’ll be glad it no longer exists.

I could go on and on. But my message is this: there is risk in everything we do in life. Just getting out of bed and into the shower involves risk! However, the risk vs. benefit analysis with regards to vaccination isn’t even close in my opinion. If deaths can be avoided by vaccination (and yes, I’m in a high risk category and have had my H1N1 shots as have my children and grandchildren with NO side effects) shouldn’t that be the right thing to do? The farther generations get from seeing the impact of the disease we vaccinate against, the less cognizant people are of the dangers of NOT vaccinating.

I’ve heard/read that people would prefer to take a “natural” approach to fighting disease. I don’t disagree that a healthy lifestyle is essential. But, as recently as 1900, life expectancy for a white male was around 49 (33 for black males). By 1970, well into the age of routine vaccinations, it had jumped to 68. Of course, many advances account for this jump and one of the major ones is that diseases that had for thousands of years sickened, maimed and killed no longer did so because of vaccination.

If you wish to take your chances with nature as your physician, be my guest. As for me and mine, I’ll take the vaccination! So far, some 30 million (MILLION) does of H1N1 vaccine have been administered. How many major side effects have been reported? You figure the odds.

Ed

December 13th, 2009
11:51 pm

CBR — your citation of a 2004 newspaper article is laughable. Again, where is the peer reviewed research? In any case, even if we hypothesized that somehow autistic people are those who can’t metabolize mercury in some way that others do, it STILL can’t explain why the removal of so much mercury made no difference at all. All your hand waving lacks logic or scientific validity. However, I don’t expect this posting to convince you otherwise.

Ed

December 14th, 2009
1:09 am

KT really nailed the issue the the first paragraph of his/her posting. This issue absolutely is one of those damned if you do or don’t cases. Since it has thus far turned out that this flu isn’t as serious as feared, people are pointing fingers, talking about waste of money etc. I guarantee that the next time there is a potential flu pandemic there will be more skepticism as a result. But as that posting rightly points out, it is all a cost/benefit question — and one of probabilities. For all we know, next year there will be a small mutation that will turn this into something as deadly as the 1918 flu – or maybe nothing will happen at all.

But should we as a society really do nothing at all? I for one don’t think so. If we ever have a pandemic that is on the scale of the 1918 pandemic, it would kill over 1 million people (most estimates say closer to 2 million, but let’s be optimistic).

By the way — to all of those folks talking about “natural” remedies and “boosting your immune system”…The 1918 flu pandemic was most virulent among young healthy people. It turns out that their immune system response was so strong it killed them. Looks like that isn’t an issue with this flu, but point is — you can’t just say I’m healthy, so I’m ok. It isn’t that simple.

FloridianInGA

December 15th, 2009
1:58 pm

There are states in the west without the vaccine. I didn’t get it and after looking at everything, think its a waste. Canada stopped giving the regular flu shot because an unpublished study said it made more people more susceptible to a milder case of swine flu. Then there is the debate over the mercury thimasole in multi-dose vials and possible Altzheimer’s association. I don’t think the big drug companies care about anything except making big bucks now and if they get sued later over side effects (which they are immune to by law-they pay into the vaccine injury fund, which has paid out over a billion dollars. thats with a B, in damages so far) its a risk they are willing to take. And I have read they have no liability for this hastenly made vaccine for this “emergency” anyway. Wash your hands people, cough into your elbow. Keep disinfected door knobs and other places people commonly touch. Common sense will keep you well.

Ed

December 16th, 2009
1:44 am

To FloridianinGA — I guess if people keep repeating something false often enough others start to believe it. First, Canada has NOT stopped giving the flu shot. Some provinces such as NS will be closing their special flu shot clinics soon because so many folks have been vaccinated, but doctors will continue giving them. Just read Canadian newspapers. It isn’t hard. For example: http://www.cbc.ca/canada/toronto/story/2009/12/15/toronto-h1n1.html

As for the “debate” over thimerisol — there is none. It has been shown over and over to have zero association to any medical condition. Perhaps though you should campaign against tuna fish and other fish, because if you eat it you are getting far more mercury than you’d get from a flu shot. As for “common sense will keep you well” — I’m very glad that the development of the polio vaccine, measles vaccine, and smallpox vaccines — to name a few — were not guided by “common sense” but instead by sound science. I do agree it is a good idea to wash your hands and take care in public places.

CBR

December 16th, 2009
9:03 am

Here is another good one on the swine flu scam:

Flu Vaccine Fraud: WHO ‘Mr Flu’ Under Investigation For Gross Conflicts of Interest
Thursday, 10 December 2009

One after another of the recently proclaimed Flu “pandemics” has turned out to be a fraudulent marketing hoax to promote flu vaccines.

Each hoax was cooked up by Big Pharma and their paid, highly placed scientists who have penetrated both national and international health organizations.

Nationally and internationally, healthcare policies are being shaped by those who have gross conflicts of interest. Vaccines are being promoted (even mandated) in the absence of scientific evidence to support mass vaccinations.

Last month, CBS investigative reporter, Sharyl Attkisson, blew the lid on the swine flu pandemic hoax and the US Center for Disease. ee her two part interview with Dr. Mercola:
See: CBS Reporter Blows the Lid Off Swine Flu Hysteria and CBS Reveals Cases Overestimated

CBS News and the CDC contradict each other completely.

In her three-month U.S. investigation that included state-by-state flu test results, Attkisson uncovered facts that contradict the Centers for Disease Control policy statements:
CBS News Finds H1N1 Tests were “Overwhelmingly Negative.”

Indeed, H1N1 flu cases are NOT as prevalent as feared:
“If you’ve been diagnosed “probable” or “presumed” 2009 H1N1 or “swine flu” in recent months, you may be surprised to know this: odds are you didn’t have H1N1 flu. In fact, you probably didn’t have flu at all.”

For example, Attkisson discovered that:
* In Florida, 83% of specimens that were presumed to be swine flu were negative for all flu when tested!
* In California, 86% of suspected H1N1 specimens were not swine flu or any flu; only 2% were confirmed swine flu.
* In Alaska, 93% of suspected swine flu specimens were negative for all flu types; only 1 percent was H1N1 flu.

You can finish reading this post on The Alliance for Human Research Protection site:
http://www.ahrp.org/cms/content/view/654/61/

CBR

December 16th, 2009
9:43 am

Oh, all of those myths about how vaccinations saved humanity would be nice if they were true, many folks say? Folks say, all of these diseases for which folks claim vaccinations were responsible for eradicating, were already in significant decline before vaccinations were introduced, due to improvements in understanding of the importance of and access to better nutrition, better hygiene, clean water, and better living and working conditions. Folks who have examined the actual historical, statistical data also say: And rates of some diseases actually went up in some populations *after* vaccination campaigns for those diseases began? Vaccination campaigns, at different times, were called off by countries after vaccinated populations had higher rates of disease than populations without vaccination, and where more folks were being injured by vaccinations than were coming down with whatever disease for which folks were receiving vaccinations, folks say? That vaccinations have never been proven to work using any rigorous, good standards of scientific analysis (that this is just hick barnyard baloney), and actually that vaccinations have been proven to not work on several occasions, with outbreaks of disease occurring in vaccinated populations, and so on? In general, doctors are not being trained to diagnose many adverse drug reactions, or if they do recognize these, they are often not reporting them (why would someone who dished out a toxic drug always want to do the right thing and report an adverse reaction, folks say(?)), and as a result, folks say that probably only one percent of adverse reactions of vaccinations are being reported — meaning that the rates of adverse reactions are much, much higher than reported? Many say, as a result, that the chances of someone having a serious adverse reaction to many vaccinations are, in actuality, much higher than any dangers from actually contracting one of these diseases? How anyone could think that injecting such complete filth into the human body has anything to do with sound science and health and immunity, many folks truly do not know? Folks say, western, mainstream medicine is the number one cause of death in the U.S., and injures millions more — folks are dropping left and right from properly-taken, properly-prescribed prescription drugs, and medical errors, hospital infections, botched surgeries, and so on? Some say for the majority of prescription drugs on the market, there are safe, natural alternative treatments, treatments which actually work, and that folks do not have to be subjected to such toxic, dangerous and often ineffective drugs? Some folks say the majority of prescription drugs do not do what is claimed anyway, are not effective, but may come with some nasty side-effects, including death? Mercury is a known neuro-toxin. There is no debate over that. Gary Null states in testimony given to the NY State Assembly, for which I posted links earlier, that he had studies on sicknesses that the flu vaccine can cause in children, and that all of these studies were PEER REVIEWED? I’ll listen to folks like Gary Null, who has a PhD in nutrition, has spent decades studying these issues. Also, I’ll listen to someone else who seems super smart and concerned about dangerous side-effects from vaccinations, and who has also sounds like he has done tons of research on this such as Robert F. Kennedy, Jr.? Oh, yes, the whole big ‘Spanish Flu of 1918-1919′ scare mongering propaganda is being wheeled out yet again, folk say? Folks say what in the world could possibly have been happening back then? Maybe WWI? for example? Also, the rates of illness were much, much higher in military populations, where folks were being experimented on with vaccines, and where military folks were coming back sick from being in the war and probably not being in the best of conditions, folks say? Folks also say, it is most likely that the majority of those folks who died probably died from bacterial infections, pneumonia, and not a flu, and that this was before antibiotics so this kind of thing would never happen in the U.S. today now that folks have access to antibiotics, intravenous fluids, and other more modern medical interventions? Also, folks say that naturopathic doctors who were treating sick folks back then had a super high rate of recovery with their patients, while mainstream allopathic doctors were seeing their patients die in droves? That mainstream doctors were giving folks dangerously high doses of aspirin and even chloroform? Had some really bad ideas about how to treat folks, while naturopaths were saving folks left and right? Anyway, it is not like folks were giving folks a test for the flu back then, so who knows what exactly each and every one of those folks died from, but it is most likely that they died from pneumonia, and not the flu, folks say? Folks say they used this propaganda to try to scare folks about the swine flu back in the seventies, to try to sell that scam swine flu vaccine campaign, which was stopped after it was a disaster and paralyzing and killing folks, where more folks were having bad reactions to the vaccine than were getting the swine flu anyway, folks say? And then the whole ‘Spanish Flu of 1918-1919′ was rolled out again to scare folks over the ‘Bird Flu’ a couple of years ago, with folks claiming that it was the bird flu that killed all of those folks, after folks had claimed it was the swine flu that killed those folks, earlier, and then again now, folks are saying it was the swine flu, folks say? Which one was it, folks say? Just sounds like monkey business scams to me, or some ignorant hick incompetent’s ‘medicine,’ neither of which I want absolutely nothing to do with. Don’t listen to all of the mainstream lines on vaccines, which get repeated ad nauseum, as if just repeating things over and over was going to make illogical statements logic, was going to make historical myths into facts?

CBR

December 16th, 2009
9:51 am

Just sounds like monkey business scams to me, or some ignorant hick incompetent’s ‘medicine,’ *both* of which I want absolutely nothing to do with. Don’t listen to all of the mainstream lines on vaccines, which get repeated ad nauseum, as if just repeating things over and over was going to make illogical statements *logical*, was going to make historical myths into historical facts? With logic, statements actually have to be proven true, no? To say that someone has a specific virus in the body and that that is what is making someone sick, without any real proof that this specific virus is in their body, without a test, hardly makes for a logical, factual statement!

CBR

December 16th, 2009
10:10 am

And from what I am reading, the WHO changed the definition of a pandemic so that this swine flu would fit this definition as this hardly actually represents a real pandemic, which before this definition change was defined by mass, rapid infection and mass morbidity from said disease, folks say? And I have to look this up again, but some are saying the reason this definition was changed was under a pandemic countries are required to buy vaccines for something like this?!

CBR

December 16th, 2009
10:25 am

Just did a quick search and found this one.

Landmark Study Finds:Thimerosol Causes Autism Brain Pathology

Washington, DC — A new study, “A Mitochondrial Dysfunction, Impaired Oxidative-Reduction Activity, Degeneration, and Death in Human Neuronal and Fetal Cells Induced by Low-Level Exposure to Thimerosol and Other Metal Compounds,” published in the most recent issue of the peer-reviewed journal of Toxicology & Environmental Toxicology, confirms a causal connection between Thimerosol and the brain pathology found in patients diagnosed with an autism spectrum disorder (ASD).

http://mercury-freedrugs.org/docs/090709_PR_ThimerosalCausesBrainPathologyb.pdf

[Notice this says *and other metal compounds*? Folks say, there are also other things in vaccines which can cause problems for folks, not just mercury/thimerosol, and that while thimerosol has been removed from some vaccines, it is still in many flu vaccinations?]

CBR

December 16th, 2009
10:46 am

Folk say that many are in no mood for big financial scams of any sort with the economy being in such bad shape, and with many health departments and programs already facing steep cuts and doctors and other health care providers and facilities being overburdened many folks are in no mood for this whole swine flu scam? Too many folks were initially scared out of their minds with all of this fear-mongering panic production, were swamping hospital emergency rooms in search of vaccinations and disrupting actual emergency services for others, folks say? And on and on? Fortunately, more and more folks are looking at this more critically, are wondering if this is billions well spent, and many think that the amount of funds allocated for different diseases should actually correlate with rates of those diseases in a population, so why should so much more be spent on something which effects many less people than something way more serious which is effecting a ton more people, and so on? Ditto for media reports? What were some of the preposterous statements made in relation to this whole scare? That 90,000 people could be killed by this by October? Oh, well, that came and went, no? Anyway, lots of folks say the best thing, for the many, many folks who are concerned about the safety of vaccinations, that these scammers could have done was to try to run this scam in the middle of an economic meltdown as that is causing folks to look a heck of a lot closer at exactly where taxpayer funds are going, and many are really not liking what they are finding in relation to this and other drug industry scams? Many doctors are also sick of being misled by drug companies as this effects their credibility, as they actually went into medicine to help people, not scam and injure them *unwittingly*, folks say? Folks say, doctors and the public have a right to all drug safety study data, a right to make informed decisions?

CBR

December 16th, 2009
12:15 pm

This is just an old history, things which have been passed down, a country myth, many folks say, some things inherited and many folks want to move in another direction. And, no, I do not have time for any more of this. Go study, folks say, and make your own choice.

Ed

December 17th, 2009
12:42 am

The problem with postings like CBR’s is that it is easy to make these flip comments “some folks say that…” but much harder to talk about the facts. If CBR went to school rather than reading web sites, he/she might come to learn that massive amount is well understood about the immune system at a biochemical level. While we are still learning, it is far beyond the kind of hand waving “some folks say” and conspiracy-theory laced nonsense that this person is spouting. In some sense, trying to have a conversation with CBR is a bit nonsensical as well.

There are tiny bits of fact interspersed with outright falsehoods or interwoven with distortions. For example, the comments about the Spanish Flu epidemic relating to WWI and vaccines. What this person fails to mention is that flu vaccine wasn’t invented until decades after that pandemic. The bit of truth is that late in the pandemic (after many millions had died) scientists still hadn’t identified a virus as the cause of the disease, so they tried vaccinating against some bacteria that they thought might be the cause.

I notice a lot of the web sites that promote this stuff like to quote scientists from 100 years or so ago — sometimes later, but usually at least 50 years ago. That has a tremendous advantage, since back then the structure of DNA wasn’t well understood, and so much biochemistry was yet to be discovered. What people like CBR fail to understand is that we can actually simulate the interactions of the surface features of viruses on computers — we can predict some aspects of what will happen when they interact with your immune system. Is it perfect? No. Is it better than waving your hands and talking about “toxins” and “some folks say that…”.

Oh, and by the way — all this stuff about was it the bird flu vs the swine flu is another great example of CBR’s ignorance about the debate in the scientific community, and the mechanisms of flu. Again, so much can be determined analytically now. We can look at the sequence of DNA in the virus and determine which parts came from birds vs swine. It turns out there is a lot of swapping of DNA if birds (primarily ducks) or pigs get infected with both kinds of viruses.

Ever wonder why so many flu viruses have names from the far East like A/Shanghai or B/Hong Kong and so on? It is because those areas have a very high density of duck populations living close to pigs. There is a lot of opportunity for crossover. Anyway, the point is — as much as there is to still learn, much is well understood at a very basic level.

I hope CBR will go spend a year taking basic college level genetics, biochemistry, and perhaps some classes in infectious disease mechanisms and public health. Then, CBR — spend a summer in a research lab to find out what real science is about.

CBR

December 21st, 2009
1:22 pm

Yawn. Here is another good one from the New York Times on more of this big problem of financial conflicts of interest corrupting our science and health policy.

Advisers on Vaccines Often Have Conflicts, Report Says
By GARDINER HARRIS
Published: December 17, 2009

WASHINGTON — A new report finds that the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention did a poor job of screening medical experts for financial conflicts when it hired them to advise the agency on vaccine safety, officials said Thursday.

Most of the experts who served on advisory panels in 2007 to evaluate vaccines for flu and cervical cancer had potential conflicts that were never resolved, the report said. Some were legally barred from considering the issues but did so anyway.

In the report, expected to be released Friday, Daniel R. Levinson, the inspector general of the Department of Health and Human Services, found that the centers failed nearly every time to ensure that the experts adequately filled out forms confirming they were not being paid by companies with an interest in their decisions.

The report found that 64 percent of the advisers had potential conflicts of interest that were never identified or were left unresolved by the centers. Thirteen percent failed to have an appropriate conflicts form on file at the agency at all, which should have barred their participation in the meetings entirely, Mr. Levinson found. And 3 percent voted on matters that ethics officers had already barred them from considering.

For more go to the NYT page:
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/18/health/policy/18cdc.html?_r=1&scp=1&sq=daniel%20r.%20levinson%20cdc&st=cse

This is a real simple concept: Many want better pharmaceutical drug safety policy and practice, and do not want folks with financial conflicts of interest sitting on drug and medical device safety and approval panels, period. Many want more health policy oversight involvement from professionals with a good educational background in *bioethics* and the history of the intersections of western medical and scientific discourses and industrialization, politics, agricultural policy, nutrition, laissez faire capitalism, gender, race, colonialism and neocolonialism, what is called ‘biopiracy,’ and so on. Many want *all* drug safety study data made available to doctors and the public, not just the data drug companies choose to share. And many want more support for more independent drug and medical device safety and efficacy study. There is plenty of documentation from several sources available on this — go look it up. And many want more funding and support for safer, proven natural alternative treatments for which many dangerous and often ineffective pharmaceuticals are prescribed. Super simple concepts.

Posting this one, below, again. Hmmm, this one, below, says that a doctor who was a former Chief Vaccination Officer at the FDA said that there was no evidence that the flu vaccination worked, and another doctor who invented a flu vaccine said his vaccine did not work and that natural infection with the flu was safer? If so, seems like folks who are more than qualified to comment on this? There are many scientists and doctors who do not recommend flu or other vaccines, do not think they have been proven to be safe or effective; there are plenty of folks more than qualified to comment on this who do not agree with much mainstream information on this, who do not get vaccinations themselves as they do not think they are safe or effective or worth the risk, and the consumer protection and financial conflict of interest issues involved in this are truly not difficult concepts for most anyone to understand?

Government’s Claims Unjustified and Deliberately Misleading

Gale and Null mention two distinguished health experts who have gone on the record to rebut government scare tactics. Dr.Anthony Morris, a distinguished virologist and former Chief Vaccine Officer at the U.S. Federal Drug Administration (FDA), states that “There is no evidence that any influenza vaccine thus far developed is effective in preventing or mitigating any attack of influenza” and that “The producers of these vaccines know they are worthless, but they go on selling them anyway.”And in November 2007, the UK newspaper The Scotsman, made public warnings by the inventor of the “flu jab,” Dr. Graeme Laver. Dr. Laver was a major Australian scientist involved in the invention of a flu vaccine, in addition to playing a leading scientific role in the discovery of anti-flu drugs. He went on record as saying the vaccine he helped to create was ineffective and [that] natural infection with the flu was safer’

http://www.foodconsumer.org/newsite/Non-food/Miscellaneoust /what_the_inventor_of_the_flu_shot_now_thinks_of_the_vaccine_1711.html

What else? Yes, there are many news reports that in parts of Canada swine flu clinics were shutting down early due to lack of demand. Folks can do a search and find many news reports stating this. And now I have been reading about how countries which have tons of extra vaccine due to lack of demand are now trying to see if they can give all of these massive amounts of unwanted vaccinations back to the drug companies, from whence they came? Oh, and of course, some are talking about dumping tons of these awful vaccinations on poor countries? Isn’t that just lovely.

CBR

December 21st, 2009
1:24 pm

Yawn. Here is another good one from the New York Times on more of this big problem of financial conflicts of interest corrupting our science and health policy.

Advisers on Vaccines Often Have Conflicts, Report Says
By GARDINER HARRIS
Published: December 17, 2009

WASHINGTON — A new report finds that the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention did a poor job of screening medical experts for financial conflicts when it hired them to advise the agency on vaccine safety, officials said Thursday.

Most of the experts who served on advisory panels in 2007 to evaluate vaccines for flu and cervical cancer had potential conflicts that were never resolved, the report said. Some were legally barred from considering the issues but did so anyway.

In the report, expected to be released Friday, Daniel R. Levinson, the inspector general of the Department of Health and Human Services, found that the centers failed nearly every time to ensure that the experts adequately filled out forms confirming they were not being paid by companies with an interest in their decisions.

The report found that 64 percent of the advisers had potential conflicts of interest that were never identified or were left unresolved by the centers. Thirteen percent failed to have an appropriate conflicts form on file at the agency at all, which should have barred their participation in the meetings entirely, Mr. Levinson found. And 3 percent voted on matters that ethics officers had already barred them from considering.

For more go to the NYT page:
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/18/health/policy/18cdc.html?_r=1&scp=1&sq=daniel%20r.%20levinson%20cdc&st=cse

This is a real simple concept: Many want better pharmaceutical drug safety policy and practice, and do not want folks with financial conflicts of interest sitting on drug and medical device safety and approval panels, period. Many want more health policy oversight involvement from professionals with a good educational background in *bioethics* and the history of the intersections of western medical and scientific discourses and industrialization, politics, agricultural policy, nutrition, laissez faire capitalism, gender, race, colonialism and neocolonialism, what is called ‘biopiracy,’ and so on. Many want *all* drug safety study data made available to doctors and the public, not just the data drug companies choose to share. And many want more support for more independent drug and medical device safety and efficacy study. There is plenty of documentation from several sources available on this — go look it up. And many want more funding and support for safer, proven natural alternative treatments for which many dangerous and often ineffective pharmaceuticals are prescribed. Super simple concepts.

CBR

December 21st, 2009
1:26 pm

Posting this one, below, again. Hmmm, this one, below, says that a doctor who was a former Chief Vaccination Officer at the FDA said that there was no evidence that the flu vaccination worked, and another doctor who invented a flu vaccine said his vaccine did not work and that natural infection with the flu was safer? If so, seems like folks who are more than qualified to comment on this? There are many scientists and doctors who do not recommend flu or other vaccines, do not think they have been proven to be safe or effective; there are plenty of folks more than qualified to comment on this who do not agree with much mainstream information on this, who do not get vaccinations themselves as they do not think they are safe or effective or worth the risk, and the consumer protection and financial conflict of interest issues involved in this are truly not difficult concepts for most anyone to understand?

Government’s Claims Unjustified and Deliberately Misleading

Gale and Null mention two distinguished health experts who have gone on the record to rebut government scare tactics. Dr.Anthony Morris, a distinguished virologist and former Chief Vaccine Officer at the U.S. Federal Drug Administration (FDA), states that “There is no evidence that any influenza vaccine thus far developed is effective in preventing or mitigating any attack of influenza” and that “The producers of these vaccines know they are worthless, but they go on selling them anyway.”And in November 2007, the UK newspaper The Scotsman, made public warnings by the inventor of the “flu jab,” Dr. Graeme Laver. Dr. Laver was a major Australian scientist involved in the invention of a flu vaccine, in addition to playing a leading scientific role in the discovery of anti-flu drugs. He went on record as saying the vaccine he helped to create was ineffective and [that] natural infection with the flu was safer’

http://www.foodconsumer.org/newsite/Non-food/Miscellaneoust /what_the_inventor_of_the_flu_shot_now_thinks_of_the_vaccine_1711.html

What else? Yes, there are many news reports that in parts of Canada swine flu clinics were shutting down early due to lack of demand. Folks can do a search and find many news reports stating this. And now I have been reading about how countries which have tons of extra vaccine due to lack of demand are now trying to see if they can give all of these massive amounts of unwanted vaccinations back to the drug companies, from whence they came? Oh, and of course, some are talking about dumping tons of these awful vaccinations on poor countries? Isn’t that just lovely.

CBR

December 21st, 2009
1:31 pm

Here is another interesting one, below.

Conflict of Interest Allegations Cloud U.S. Bisphenol A Meeting
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601103&sid=ao4w4AvWyxWQ&refer=us

Excerpt:

By Justin Blum

Oct. 28 (Bloomberg) — Allegations of conflicts of interest related to a University of Michigan researcher are clouding a U.S. advisory panel’s review of the safety of bisphenol A, a chemical used in plastic.

In letters to the agency, lawmakers have criticized ties between one of the Food and Drug Administration’s advisers, Martin Philbert of Michigan, and supporters of the chemical. Representative Rosa DeLauro, a Connecticut Democrat, said in a letter being released today, that an Oct. 31 advisory panel meeting should be canceled, partly because of Philbert’s ties to industry.

Lawmakers have repeatedly questioned the FDA’s oversight of Bisphenol A, or BPA, which has been used for decades to help stiffen plastic for baby bottles and food-storage containers and to line metal cans. A draft FDA staff report from August said BPA is safe at current exposure levels. BPA has been linked in some studies to diabetes and developmental changes in children.

CBR

December 22nd, 2009
7:56 am

Here is another very simple concept: Other folks’ kids are not there for some vaccination pushing wackos to inject with dangerous toxic crud based on junk science, which may injure or kill, and which has never been proven to work, for profit.

Ed

December 27th, 2009
1:56 am

To quote CBR “Yawn”.

Here is a concept: Many of your quotations fictional or pretty close. Dr J. Anthony Morris was a bureaucrat at the FDA in the early 1970s and was forced out during a political battle over 30 years ago. He is not virologist, and his only two publications indexed in PubMed are from the early 1950s and were about bacteria, not viruses. For folks not in the sciences — having no publications for the last 10 years would render anything you said somewhat suspect. 20 years would make you no longer reliable. Anything over 30 years pretty much means your knowledge of current practice is equal to — oh, I don’t know — Dr Gary Null.

Ed

December 27th, 2009
2:04 am

CBR refers in many posts to “junk science”. Because CBR has demonstrated quite aptly that he/she has little understanding of science in any form it is hard to understand how this person could make a judgement of what constituted “junk science”. Apparently, peer reviewed science built on decades of research, DNA analysis of viral structure, reliable and repeatable experimental evidence from hundreds of disparate researchers around the world, and much more are “junk science”. An osteopath with a web site, on the other hand is a reliable source we should all listen to and believe no matter what.

CBR

January 1st, 2010
11:56 am

European Parliament to Investigate WHO and “Pandemic” Scandal

The Council of Europe member states will launch an inquiry in January 2010 on the influence of the pharmaceutical companies on the global swine flu campaign, focusing especially on extent of the pharma‘s industry’s influence on WHO. The Health Committee of the EU Parliament has unanimously passed a resolution calling for the inquiry. The step is a long-overdue move to public transparency of a “Golden Triangle” of drug corruption between WHO, the pharma industry and academic scientists that has permanently damaged the lives of millions and even caused death.

http://globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=16667

CBR

January 1st, 2010
11:59 am

And another good one on this lovely industry:

Feds Hit Pfizer with a $2.3 Billion Fine
The Obama Administration, determined to show a tough stance against drugmakers, levies the largest drug-marketing penalty ever

Pfizer (PFE) will pay a record $2.3 billion fine and plead guilty to one felony count to settle federal criminal and civil charges that it illegally promoted its Bextra painkiller and other drugs. The fine had been first reported back in January, but Justice Dept. officials disclosed details of the settlement on Sept. 2 in a splashy news conference that served as a pointed warning to other drug companies that it plans to come down hard on the industry for fraudulent marketing.

http://www.businessweek.com/bwdaily/dnflash/content/sep2009/db2009092_913433.htm

CBR

January 1st, 2010
12:09 pm

Germany and Spain seek to cut H1N1 vaccine orders

LONDON (Reuters) – Germany and Spain want to reduce deliveries of swine flu vaccine and potentially return excess supplies to manufacturers, due to low uptake of the shots, in a move that could hit drugmakers’ profits.

http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE5BG2PD20091217

CBR

January 1st, 2010
12:22 pm

AHRP:

‘Flu Vaccine Fraud: WHO ‘Mr Flu’ Under Investigation For Gross Conflicts of Interest

One after another of the recently proclaimed Flu “pandemics” has turned out to be a fraudulent marketing hoax to promote flu vaccines.

Each hoax was cooked up by Big Pharma and their paid, highly placed scientists who have penetrated both national and international health organizations. Nationally and internationally, healthcare policies are being shaped by those who have gross conflicts of interest. Vaccines are being promoted (even mandated) in the absence of scientific evidence to support mass vaccinations.

CBS reported that:

“The same people who are regulating and promoting vaccines are also evaluating vaccine safety. For instance, Dr. Paul Offit of the Children’s Hospital of Philadelphia earned at least $29 million as part of a $182-million sale by the hospital of its worldwide royalty interest in the Merck Rotateq vaccine. He also formerly sat on the CDC’s Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices (ACIP) to help create the market for rotavirus vaccine”

A riveting, insightful article, by F. William Engdahl , author of “Full Spectrum Dominance: Totalitarian Democracy in the New World Order,” documents how gross conflicts of interest have corrupted the World Health Organization and international vaccine policy.

This well documented article sheds light on how a well positioned Dutch scientist and the World Health Organization helped Big Pharma (or as Engdahl refers to it, “the Pharma mafia”) generate a global hysteria about the avian flu and the swine flu—in order to generate a demand for flu vaccines.

Excerpts:

“The man with the nickname “Dr Flu”, Professor Albert Osterhaus, of the Erasmus University in Rotterdam Holland has been named by Dutch media researchers as the person at the center of the worldwide Swine Flu H1N1 Influenza A 2009 pandemic hysteria. Not only is Osterhaus the connecting person in an international network that has been described as the Pharma Mafia, he is THE key advisor to WHO on influenza and is intimately positioned to personally profit from the billions of euros in vaccines allegedly aimed at H1N1.”

“More careful investigation into the Osterhaus Affair suggests that the world-renowned Dutch Virologist may be at the very center of a multi-billion Euro pandemic fraud which has used human beings in effect as human guinea pigs with untested vaccines and in cases now emerging resulting in deaths or severe bodily paralysis or injury. “

CBR

January 1st, 2010
12:23 pm

Alliance for Human Research Protection:

‘Flu Vaccine Fraud: WHO ‘Mr Flu’ Under Investigation For Gross Conflicts of Interest

One after another of the recently proclaimed Flu “pandemics” has turned out to be a fraudulent marketing hoax to promote flu vaccines.

Each hoax was cooked up by Big Pharma and their paid, highly placed scientists who have penetrated both national and international health organizations. Nationally and internationally, healthcare policies are being shaped by those who have gross conflicts of interest. Vaccines are being promoted (even mandated) in the absence of scientific evidence to support mass vaccinations.

CBS reported that:

“The same people who are regulating and promoting vaccines are also evaluating vaccine safety. For instance, Dr. Paul Offit of the Children’s Hospital of Philadelphia earned at least $29 million as part of a $182-million sale by the hospital of its worldwide royalty interest in the Merck Rotateq vaccine. He also formerly sat on the CDC’s Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices (ACIP) to help create the market for rotavirus vaccine”

A riveting, insightful article, by F. William Engdahl , author of “Full Spectrum Dominance: Totalitarian Democracy in the New World Order,” documents how gross conflicts of interest have corrupted the World Health Organization and international vaccine policy.

This well documented article sheds light on how a well positioned Dutch scientist and the World Health Organization helped Big Pharma (or as Engdahl refers to it, “the Pharma mafia”) generate a global hysteria about the avian flu and the swine flu—in order to generate a demand for flu vaccines.

Excerpts:

“The man with the nickname “Dr Flu”, Professor Albert Osterhaus, of the Erasmus University in Rotterdam Holland has been named by Dutch media researchers as the person at the center of the worldwide Swine Flu H1N1 Influenza A 2009 pandemic hysteria. Not only is Osterhaus the connecting person in an international network that has been described as the Pharma Mafia, he is THE key advisor to WHO on influenza and is intimately positioned to personally profit from the billions of euros in vaccines allegedly aimed at H1N1.”

“More careful investigation into the Osterhaus Affair suggests that the world-renowned Dutch Virologist may be at the very center of a multi-billion Euro pandemic fraud which has used human beings in effect as human guinea pigs with untested vaccines and in cases now emerging resulting in deaths or severe bodily paralysis or injury. “

http://www.ahrp.org/cms/content/view/654/61/

CBR

January 1st, 2010
1:25 pm

And another good one posted on the Alliance for Human Research Protection site, below, on the Tamiflu scam. (They post articles in their News section and add comments.)

BMJ Demands Raw Data From Pharma Clinical Trials
Friday, 11 December 2009

The system has provided companies an opportunity to make spectacular profits from the widespread use of defective drugs and vaccines that have caused irreversible harm.
The controversy surrounding the frenzied promotion of the drug, Tamiflu (oseltamivir) has exploded in several scientific venues and even in the US and UK media. The controversy may be even more instructive about the systemic issues that undermine the integrity of the drug and vaccine review and analysis process than the Vioxx catastrophe.

This week’s BMJ contains six articles detailing the essential issues involved in the Tamiflu controversy: included are independent critics’ analyses as well as company counterclaims, and two editorials (excerpts below) that critique the current system which not only fails to detect serious adverse effects, the system allows manufacturers to control the trials and conceal the safety data. Physicians and the public are misled with a false sense of security about the safety and effectiveness of patented drugs and vaccines.

The deception is orchestrated by company marketing masquerading as evidence which prominent industry-paid academic physicians promote as “science-based” information.

More: http://www.ahrp.org/cms/content/view/655/150/

CBR

January 1st, 2010
3:45 pm

Another one posted on Corp Watch, which is from a couple of years ago.

NIGERIA: Pfizer Faces Criminal Charges in Nigeria

by Joe Stephens, Washington Post
May 30th, 2007

Officials in Nigeria have brought criminal charges against pharmaceutical giant Pfizer for the company’s alleged role in the deaths of children who received an unapproved drug during a meningitis epidemic.

Authorities in Kano, the country’s largest state, filed eight charges this month related to the 1996 clinical trial, including counts of criminal conspiracy and voluntarily causing grievous harm. They also filed a civil lawsuit seeking more than $2 billion in damages and restitution from Pfizer, the world’s largest drug company.

The move represents a rare — perhaps unprecedented — instance in which the developing world’s anger at multinational drug companies has boiled over into criminal charges. It also represents the latest in a string of public-relations blows stemming from the decade-old clinical trial, in which Pfizer says it acted ethically.

The government alleges that Pfizer researchers selected 200 children and infants from crowds at a makeshift epidemic camp in Kano and gave about half of the group an untested antibiotic called Trovan. Researchers gave the other children what the lawsuit describes as a dangerously low dose of a comparison drug made by Hoffmann-La Roche. Nigerian officials say Pfizer’s actions resulted in the deaths of an unspecified number of children and left others deaf, paralyzed, blind or brain-damaged.

More: http://www.corpwatch.org/article.php?id=14507

CBR

January 1st, 2010
4:25 pm

Scientific fraud and junk science are still scientific fraud and junk science no matter if you have ten or a ten thousand people believing in it. Can I believe that we have had decades of drug industry interests corrupting scientific research and education in the U.S. resulting in decades of poorly educated medical scientists and massive amounts of medical junk science? You betcha!

CBR

January 1st, 2010
4:30 pm

Someone can make a little 3D model, simulation on their computer, so that must mean a drug works? Funny one! Quite amusing! That one will keep us chuckling for a while!

CBR

January 1st, 2010
5:30 pm

And another one, a video of a CBS interview with this man, Dr Andrew Wakefield, on a new vaccine study showing brain damage in animals?

Does HepB Vaccine Cause Defects?
CBS News Investigative Correspondent Sharyl Attkisson spoke with Dr. Andrew Wakefield about a recent study comparing the developmental differences between vaccinated and unvaccinated animals.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_ot8F6m7qw&feature=player_embedded

CBR

January 1st, 2010
5:34 pm

More on this study:

Delayed acquisition of neonatal reflexes in newborn primates receiving a thimerosal-containing Hepatitis B vaccine: Influence of gestational age and birth weight

Excerpt:

Abstract

This study examined whether acquisition of neonatal reflexes and sensorimotor skills in newborn rhesus macaques (Macaca mulatta) is influenced by receipt of the single neonatal dose of Hepatitis B (HB) vaccine containing the preservative thimerosal (Th). HB vaccine containing a standardized weight-adjusted Th dose was administered to male macaques within 24 h of birth (n = 13). Unexposed animals received saline placebo (n = 4) or no injection (n = 3). Infants were raised identically and tested daily for acquisition of 9 survival, motor, and sensorimotor reflexes by a blinded observer. In exposed animals there was a significant delay in the acquisition of three survival reflexes: root, snout and suck, compared with unexposed animals. No neonatal responses were significantly delayed in unexposed animals compared with exposed. Gestational age (GA) and birth weight were not significantly correlated. Cox regression models were used to evaluate the main effects and interactions of exposure with birth weight and GA as independent predictors and time-invariant covariates. Significant main effects remained for exposure on root and suck when controlling for GA and birth weight such that exposed animals were relatively delayed in time-to-criterion. There was a significant effect of GA on visual follow far when controlling for exposure such that increasing GA was associated with shorter time-to-criterion. Interaction models indicated that while there were no main effects of GA or birth weight on root, suck or snout reflexes there were various interactions between exposure, GA, and birth weight such that inclusion of the relevant interaction terms significantly improved model fit. This, in turn, indicated important influences of birth weight and/or GA on the effect of exposure which, in general, operated in a way that lower birth weight and/or lower GA exacerbated the detrimental effect of vaccine exposure. This primate model provides a possible means of assessing adverse neurodevelopmental outcomes from neonatal Th-containing HB vaccine exposure, particularly in infants of lower GA or low birth weight. The mechanism of these effects and the requirements for Th is not known and requires further study.

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science?_ob=ArticleURL&_udi=B6W81-4XC57CT-1&_user=10&_rdoc=1&_fmt=&_orig=search&_sort=d&_docanchor=&view=c&_acct=C000050221&_version=1&_urlVersion=0&_userid=10&md5=163a9340a2cb2e9c65b170e058dc21b1

CBR

January 1st, 2010
5:47 pm

Hepatitis B triple series vaccine and developmental disability in US children aged 1-9 years
Carolyn Gallagher ; Melody Goodman
Toxicological & Environmental Chemistry 2008 90(5):997 – 1008.

This study investigated the association between vaccination with the Hepatitis B triple series vaccine prior to 2000 and developmental disability in children aged 1-9 years (n = 1824), proxied by parental report that their child receives early intervention or special education services (EIS). National Health and Nutrition Examination Survey 1999-2000 data were analyzed and adjusted for survey design by Taylor Linearization using SAS version 9.1 software, with SAS callable SUDAAN version 9.0.1. The odds of receiving EIS were approximately nine times as great for vaccinated boys (n = 46) as for unvaccinated boys (n = 7), after adjustment for confounders. This study found statistically significant evidence to suggest that boys in United States who were vaccinated with the triple series Hepatitis B vaccine, during the time period in which vaccines were manufactured with thimerosal, were more susceptible to developmental disability than were unvaccinated boys.

CBR

January 1st, 2010
5:57 pm

And another part of this CBS interview:

Controversy Over Vaccine Research
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-atrfTvXEzQ&feature=player_embedded

CBR

January 1st, 2010
6:32 pm

Cochrane reviews compared with industry supported meta-analyses and other meta-analyses of the same drugs: systematic review
http://www.bmj.com/cgi/content/full/333/7572/782?rss=1

CBR

January 1st, 2010
6:50 pm

Bioethics International: Pfizer Drug Studies Fudged, Report Says
http://www.bioethicsinternational.org/blog/2009/11/12/pfizer-drug-studies-fudged-report-says/

Excerpt:

The report, by researchers at the University of California at San Francisco and the Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health, comes two months after Pfizer was fined a record $2.3 billion — including an unprecedented $1.2 billion criminal fine — for illegally marketing other blockbuster drugs.

The report appears in Thursday’s New England Journal of Medicine.

Dr. Sidney Wolfe, head of health research at consumer group Public Citizen, called it the first comprehensive look “at studies in which a company and people working for it so maliciously manipulated the data to make a drug look more effective than it actually was.”

“In every instance, the published article made the drug look better than it would have,” said Wolfe, a member of the Food and Drug Administration’s drug safety advisory committee. “This results in harm.”

CBR

January 1st, 2010
6:57 pm

Another good excerpt from this article above:

Arthur Caplan, director of the University of Pennsylvania’s Center for Bioethics, called the report “one of the most ethically disturbing papers I’ve read in some time” and “an indication that people have been playing fast and loose with studies,” particularly industry ones.

Caplan said the FDA should have the power to audit industry drug studies. Wolfe said there should be bigger fines and jail terms for manipulating study data, plus tougher rules for studies being published in journals.

CBR

January 1st, 2010
7:08 pm

Why You Can’t Trust Medical Journals Anymore
By Shannon Brownlee
April 2004

Excerpt:

Should research scientists who have financial stakes in the products they are writing about be forced to disclose those ties? To which the average person might reasonably respond, of course they should. But the more pertinent question is why scientists with financial stakes in the outcome of scientific studies are allowed anywhere near those studies, much less reviewing them in elite journals.

The answer to that question is at once both predictable and shocking: For the past two decades, medical research has been quietly corrupted by cash from private industry. Most doctors and academic researchers aren’t corrupt in the sense of intending to defraud the public or harm patients, but rather, more insidiously, guilty of allowing the pharmaceutical and biotech industries to manipulate medical science through financial relationships, in effect tainting the system that is supposed to further the understanding of disease and protect patients from ineffective or dangerous drugs. More than 60 percent of clinical studies–those involving human subjects–are now funded not by the federal government, but by the pharmaceutical and biotech industries. That means that the studies published in scientific journals like Nature and The New England Journal of Medicine–those critical reference points for thousands of clinicians deciding what drugs to prescribe patients, as well as for individuals trying to educate themselves about conditions and science reporters from the popular media who will publicize the findings–are increasingly likely to be designed, controlled, and sometimes even ghost-written by marketing departments, rather than academic scientists. Companies routinely delay or prevent the publication of data that show their drugs are ineffective. The majority of studies that found such popular antidepressants as Prozac and Zoloft to be no better than placebos, for instance, never saw print in medical journals, a fact that is coming to light only now that the Food and Drug Administration has launched a reexamination of those drugs.

Today, private industry has unprecedented leverage to dictate what doctors and patients know–and don’t know–about the $160 billion worth of pharmaceuticals Americans consume each year. This is an unsettling charge that many (if not a majority) of doctors and academic researchers don’t want to acknowledge. Once grasped, however, the full scope and consequences of medical conflict of interest beget grave doubts about the veracity of wide swaths of medical science. As Dr. Drummond Rennie, deputy editor of The Journal of the American Medical Association (JAMA), puts it, “This is all about bypassing science. Medicine is becoming a sort of Cloud Cuckoo Land, where doctors don’t know what papers they can trust in the journals, and the public doesn’t know what to believe.”

CBR

January 3rd, 2010
8:12 am

Folks say where are the studies for all of these vaccinations on vaccinated groups vs. non-vaccinated groups? They don’t exist, folks say. Folks say there is a good reason these types of comparative studies have been avoided by vaccine proponents as this type of comparison would quickly prove that vaccination does not work? Folks say, vaccination proponents are using absurb, irrelevant, indirect measurements on which to base statements of vaccination efficacy, such as ‘antibody titer,’ which is NOT the same thing as immunity? I just did a quick search and found this one, below, on this, and looks like there are plenty more to disprove what folks call an absolutely absurd, scam theory of immunity and vaccination efficacy?

Crone, NE; Reder, AT; Severe tetanus in immunized patients with high anti-tetanus titers; Neurology 1992; 42:761-764
http://neurology.org/cgi/content/abstract/42/4/761

CBR

January 3rd, 2010
8:28 am

Basically, folks say, immunity is A LOT more complicated than just antibodies? Duh!

And here is one on how folks in Canada suspended seasonal flu shots after a study showed links between getting a seasonal flu shot and being more likely to get swine flu.

Flu Vaccine Study Prompts Caution In Canada

Canadian provincial authorities are rethinking flu shots because of data that link getting a seasonal flu shot to an increased risk of contracting a mild case of swine flu.
More: http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=113316256

CBR

January 3rd, 2010
8:38 am

Or folks say where are the studies looking at whether or not vaccinations cause developmental delay, autism, comparing vaccinated and non-vaccinated groups? Why have folks not done these simple studies, folks say? Probably as that would show that these toxic scam shots are causing problems, folks say?

CBR

January 3rd, 2010
11:12 am

And gosh, I just keep reading about how most folks in many European countries really don’t want this nasty swine flu vaccine s***? Less than ten percent in France and Germany have wanted to get this crud, and now those countries are trying to get rid of millions of doses they don’t want? At least more folks have some sense over there.

European nations sell surplus swine flu vaccines
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/breaking-news/european-nations-sell-surplus-swine-flu-vaccines/story-e6frf7jx-1225815781244

Excerpts:

France witnessed less demand than expected after spending €869m (US$1.25bn) on vaccines for the A(H1N1) virus.

It bought 94m doses, almost one and a half per person, but since the program launched in October only about five million people are recorded as having been vaccinated.

Germany said in December it was looking to sell vaccines as well, even though its full order of 50m doses was not due to be delivered until March. Only about five percent of its population has been vaccinated.

CBR

January 4th, 2010
8:26 pm

France cancels 50 million flu shot orders
http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE6034HX20100104

Excerpt:

The Health Ministry said it had originally bought the 94 vaccines at a cost of 869 million euros. Bachelot said the canceled order would save more than 350 million euros.

Opposition politicians have criticized the government, saying it has wasted money and helped drugs companies. Socialist Party spokesman Benoit Hamon said large pharmaceutical firms were “the big winners in this affair.”

CBR

January 5th, 2010
8:12 am

And sounds like folks are going to have a hard time saying this man is not qualified to comment on this? What? Says he has a Masters and a PhD in Microbiology, did a postdoc in Immuno-chemistry, worked for a drug company on vaccines, then worked for the equivalent of the FDA in Canada for thirty five years, including twenty years on vaccines?

Expert Explains the Flu Vaccine Deception and the Swine Flu Hoax

Dr. Shiv Chopra was a drug company insider, and also worked for what is now Health Canada — the Canadian equivalent of the FDA. He is uniquely qualified to explain why no flu vaccine has ever worked, and that swine flu and avian flu are nothing more than hoaxes.

http://www.foodconsumer.org/newsite/Non-food/Drug/flu_vaccine_deception_and_the_swine_flu_hoax_0510100535.html

Ed

January 6th, 2010
5:27 pm

CBR says there is no research on autism and developmental delays or autism. Either CBR is (1) distorting the truth or (2) woefully ignorant. Which is it CBR?

Here is just one of many many many studies. Actually, this one is already 6 years old — there have been many since, and it is a critical review of the studies up to that time. Oh, and it was funded by the NIH, not by private companies. Of course, I suppose we should still just pay attention to what some Osteopath on a web site says over this and other research.

Thimerosal-Containing Vaccines and Autistic Spectrum Disorder: A Critical Review of Published Original Data
Sarah K. Parker, MD*, Benjamin Schwartz, MD, James Todd, MD* and Larry K. Pickering, MD

CBR

January 11th, 2010
10:23 am

Yawn. Once again, just idiotic and irrelevant comments. Smart folks are not interested in all of the mainstream idiocy on vaccinations any longer. We’ve got the internet and can by-pass all of the baloney now. Not interested! Thanks anyway! I’m surely done here. No, I am not in the habit of having discussions with schmucks.

CBR

January 15th, 2010
5:08 pm

One more as more good news about folks rejecting the swine flu vaccination scam is coming out now. Thank goodness that there are a lot more folks who are educated about drug industry scams who are not buying this baloney, in Europe. That’s it! I am so not interested in reading any more idiot comments on this. Smart, educated folks are not buying the baloney. The Council of Europe will be investigating this ’swine flu pandemic’ later in the month. Thank goodness. Countries have limited health budgets and many absolutely do not want funds wasted on such scams. These funds could have been much better used if they had gone toward programs to help eradicated malnutrition, an actual, serious health issue!

H1N1 ‘false pandemic’ biggest pharma-fraud of century?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9HamW8sH8Q&feature=player_embedded

Drug firms made ‘false H1N1 claims’
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hoQN1to3C2U&feature=player_embedded#at=26

Ed

January 26th, 2010
1:43 am

“Smart folks are not interested in all of the mainstream idiocy on vaccinations any longer”.

Sure CBR. You neatly failed to answer why you made several claims that were patently false. I’m sure you will continue to do so. That’s the strategy of deniers like you. You say there is no research about issues with vaccines, but then if confronted with it you change the topic or say the research is irrelevant. You keep talking about “smart folks”, but your criteria for intelligence is that you can read a web site of an osteopath. You say trace mercury in vaccines causes health issues but then can’t cite studies why it is that as mercury % in vaccines has plummetted over the last decade rates of the conditions you say it causes hasn’t even had a blip.

Oh, and about “smart folks” — I suppose Bill Gates must be a real moron. His foundation is spending incredible sums of money to try to develop a malaria vaccine. And NO, that isn’t the only approach they are taking. But given that in 2006, there were 247 million cases of malaria and 881,000 deaths from it that seems appropriate.

What will you say when the Malaria vaccine comes out some years from now and rates start dropping of that horrific disease? Or I suppose malaria victims should just avoid having a vaccine. Probably your absurd answer.

CBR

January 27th, 2010
7:15 pm

Swine Flu Didn’t Fly
Niko Kyriakou, Huffington Post
January 27, 2010
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/niko-kyriakou/swine-flu-didnt-fly_b_438783.html

Excerpt:

Corruption in Health Organizations?

Critics of the WHO say they promoted bad data to help drug makers get rich selling vaccines. This attack implies drug makers have a network of influence within the decision-making structure of the organization, a suggestion various officials confirm.

One high-level, long-term WHO employee who preferred to remain anonymous for job security, described the WHO as follows: “WHO is infested by corruption. There is big corruption, like the management of H1N1, and there is small corruption; and between the big and the small corruption there is [corruption] in all imaginable forms. Unfortunately, it’s not only the WHO.”

CBR

January 27th, 2010
7:27 pm

CBR

January 27th, 2010
7:32 pm

You have to scroll down some on this page to get to this particular article. There are many other sources on this also. Do a simple search for more.

Historic Data Shows Vaccines Not Key in Declines in Death from Disease
http://www.gnhealth.com/vaccines.html

CBR

January 27th, 2010
7:38 pm

Vaccine Rights
Alan Phillips, J.D., Attorney and Counselor at Law
http://www.vaccinerights.com/

CBR

January 27th, 2010
7:40 pm

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Dispelling Vaccination Myths
An Introduction to the Contradictions Between Medical Science and Immunization Policy
Alan Phillips, J.D., Attorney and Counselor at Law
http://www.vaccinerights.com/pdf/DispellingVaccinationMythsx.pdf

CBR

January 27th, 2010
7:50 pm

Posting this one again. This man is funny as heck!

Dr. Shiv Chopra, featured in this interview, who says that this swine flu campaign is a hoax and that no flu vaccination has ever worked, has a Masters and a PhD in Microbiology, did a postdoc in Immuno-chemistry, worked for a drug company on vaccines, then worked for the equivalent of the FDA in Canada for thirty five years, including twenty years on vaccines?

Expert Explains the Flu Vaccine Deception and the Swine Flu Hoax

Dr. Shiv Chopra was a drug company insider, and also worked for what is now Health Canada — the Canadian equivalent of the FDA. He is uniquely qualified to explain why no flu vaccine has ever worked, and that swine flu and avian flu are nothing more than hoaxes.

http://www.foodconsumer.org/newsite/Non-food/Drug/flu_vaccine_deception_and_the_swine_flu_hoax_0510100535.html

CBR

January 27th, 2010
7:52 pm

Posting this one again. This man is funny as heck!

Dr. Shiv Chopra, featured in this interview, who ***says that this swine flu campaign is a hoax and that no flu vaccination has ever been proven to work or be safe***, has a Masters and a PhD in Microbiology, did a postdoc in Immuno-chemistry, worked for a drug company on vaccines, then worked for the equivalent of the FDA in Canada for thirty five years, including twenty years on vaccines?

Expert Explains the Flu Vaccine Deception and the Swine Flu Hoax

Dr. Shiv Chopra was a drug company insider, and also worked for what is now Health Canada — the Canadian equivalent of the FDA. He is uniquely qualified to explain why no flu vaccine has ever worked, and that swine flu and avian flu are nothing more than hoaxes.

http://www.foodconsumer.org/newsite/Non-food/Drug/flu_vaccine_deception_and_the_swine_flu_hoax_0510100535.html

CBR

January 27th, 2010
8:01 pm

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Mercury and Autism
http://safeminds.org/mercury/history.html

Excerpt:

There is much evidence that autism is triggered by a toxic overload which adversely affects organs throughout the body, including the brain. Research indicates that several toxins and biological agents could be contributing to a toxic overload causing autism, including but not limited to:

* ethylmercury in vaccines
* methylmercury and other forms of mercury in the environment
* organic pesticides
* bisphenol A in plastics
* aluminum hydroxide (used in vaccines to stimulate an immune response)
* certain viruses

SafeMinds has also focused on the link between autism and vaccines. There is substantial evidence that in a substantial portion of autism cases, vaccines are the final trigger to toxic overload. SafeMinds has long maintained that the high-mercury vaccines has contributed to autism, and there is growing evidence that the low-mercury and no-mercury vaccines may also contribute to a synergistic toxicity leading to autism.

CBR

January 27th, 2010
8:07 pm

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Generation Rescue: Science: Battling Misinformation
http://www.generationrescue.org/misinformation.html

Excerpt:

Battling Misinformation
As you can see for yourself in our Published Studies section, there is a growing body of published science pointing incontrovertibly to several truths:
• Neurological Disorders (NDs) in children are growing at a rate well in excess of population growth and are not the result of better diagnosis or widening diagnostic criteria.
• Children with NDs exhibit much higher levels of toxicity in their bodies.
• The ingredients in vaccines are neurotoxic and are capable of creating many of the medical issues children with NDs are suffering from.
And, yet, the popular press is constantly spreading the same tired myths about autism and other NDs. Namely:
• There is no known cause and no known cure
• The link between vaccines and NDs has been disproven
• Recovered children are almost never acknowledged despite their growing numbers

CBR

January 27th, 2010
8:09 pm

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Generation Rescue: Autism Science: Peer-Reviewed Scientific Studies and Citations Related to Autism, Underlying Medical Conditions and Treatment
http://www.generationrescue.org/autism/

Ed

January 29th, 2010
1:02 am

Gee, this must be just coincidence. I hope some “smart people” can convince all of the parent of these children to not be vaccinated so more of them can die.

A new study of a vaccine against rotavirus infection among African newborns shows the drug is highly effective against the disease, which can cause major gastrointestinal distress and death in babies and young children.

Last year, the World Health Organization (WHO) recommended that a vaccine be given to infants to prevent severe complications from rotavirus, which can cause potentially fatal diarrhea and dehydration. Malnourished babies or those infected with the AIDS virus are most at risk. Rotavirus kills a half million children worldwide each year, 230,000 of them in six of seven African countries with high rates of rotavirus infection.

A study, commissioned by the WHO and released Wednesday that evaluates the vaccine’s effectiveness, prompted the health agency to recommend the vaccine for all infants.

Researchers with PATH – a global non-profit group specializing in vaccine research – found the vaccine called Rotarix reduced severe complications among groups of children in South Africa and Malawi by an average of 60 percent.

Study senior author Kathleen Neuzil of the Seattle, Washington-based non-profit is delighted with the results.

“This is very exciting. This is not a vaccine that needs to be developed,” she said. “This is a vaccine that we have now that is used in many parts of the world and, again, has the potential to save millions of lives over the next 10 years or so. And rarely do you have interventions with that kind of impact.”

Two vaccines, including Rotarix, are widely available in the developed world, preventing severe complications in about 95 percent of the rotavirus cases in the developed countries.

In the South African study, 3,100 infants in South Africa were vaccinated with Rotarix. Of these, 77 percent of them experienced mild complications compared to children who did not receive the vaccine.

Researchers in Malawi enrolled 1,700 infants and the vaccine reduced the frequency of severe rotavirus complications by 50 percent.

CBR

March 18th, 2010
3:18 pm

Yes, Bill Gates is a moron. Maybe he should have finished college?

CBR

March 18th, 2010
3:22 pm

Not that anyone needs a college education to figure out the many things wrong with much mainstream medicine and big agribiz, of course. Have a good one! Do some more homework! Auf wiedersehen.

CBR

March 18th, 2010
3:29 pm

Noam Chomsky on Microsoft and Corporate Control of the Internet
http://www.corpwatch.org/article.php?id=1408