Once-proud civil rights group sinks low

Whether one agrees or disagrees with the actions of the National Organization for Women (NOW), at least when it was formed in 1966 its mission was lofty: securing “political, professional, and educational equality for women.”

Forty-three years later, NOW has diminished to a caricature of its former self — issuing ridiculous news releases criticizing television for extolling “skinny” women rather than those who are “plus-size.”

Another organization founded in the same era that spawned NOW has fallen victim to a similar fate — the Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC).

Formed in 1971, the SPLC initially focused its energies and resources on a very real problem facing our country at that time — virulent racism. Co-founder Morris Dees and his associates at SPLC quickly developed a well-deserved reputation as tireless and fearless fighters, taking on such targets as the KKK, the Aryan Nations, and other violence-prone racist groups. During my tenure as the U.S. Attorney in Atlanta in the late 1980s, my office occasionally worked with the SPLC to strengthen cases against such criminals.

In recent years, however, the focus of the SPLC has blurred considerably, and the targets of its ire have become decidedly less tangible. The Southern Poverty Law Center seems to be grasping for continued relevance in an age clearly less hostile to racial minorities than two generations ago.

A report titled “Return of the Militias” illustrates the degree to which SPLC has diluted its message and its strength. Straying far from its earlier focus against true, violence-oriented racial hate groups, this latest work raises suspicions about virtually any group that takes serious issue with the policies now being proposed and implemented by Barack Obama’s administration. The report also determines that many of the people and entities disagreeing with the new president are doing so based on racial motives. Painting so broadly with the “race card” further diminishes the Center’s credibility.

Often citing unnamed sources to support its conclusions, the “militia report” chronicles a rise in “militia activity” based on such scholarly sources as YouTube sightings and other Internet activities. One might legitimately wonder whether the SPLC’s findings that “militia groups” are communicating and strengthening themselves via the Internet, is laying the groundwork to have the government monitor or even control the Internet in order to squelch “inappropriate” uses.

One of the source documents cited by the SPLC in support of its cry that “militias” are on the rise and pose a dire threat to our country is a report that had been posted on the webpage of the Missouri Information Analysis Center (MIAC). The report in question linked suspect “militia” activity to such innocuous actions as displaying Ron Paul or Bob Barr bumper stickers. It was in fact ordered removed by Missouri’s Director of Public Safety last March, because it implied that a person’s exercise of First Amendment-guaranteed rights was a proper basis for government surveillance — an implication with which the SPLC apparently is comfortable.

The “militia” net cast by the SPLC is indeed wide.

The “tea parties” that have sprung up this year to protest the expansion of government power and spending are suspect in the SPLC’s jaded eyes; as is even the “Tea Party Anthem.” CNN’s Lou Dobbs, Fox News Channel’s Glenn Beck, and even Texas Gov. Rick Perry are casually, if not causally, linked to the “militia movement” by the SPLC writers. Not surprising, one of the favored punching bags of the Left — the National Rifle Association — doesn’t escape being linked to “militias.”

The once-proud Southern Poverty Law Center has honed the practice of guilt by association to a fine art, and is pandering to peoples’ prejudices in a manner it once would have properly denounced.

65 comments Add your comment


August 24th, 2009
9:05 am

Yeah, their fall from grace started 3 years ago on the debate over immigration reform. Anyone who raised any question about border security was automatically a racist.

And you are correct, at one time they did some important work.

JF McNamara

August 24th, 2009
9:44 am

For anyone who cares, here is the full report.


It doesn’t really seem that controversial knowing that it comes from an agenda driven lobbying group. I guess it just came from the wrong side of the aisle.


August 24th, 2009
9:47 am


I strongly believe we need a federal reserve audit. The recent stock market action suggests to me the federal reserve is intervening in a free and open market. I believe the biggest beneficiary of this TRILLION DOLLAR stock market move in a couple of weeks was Goldman Sachs. Goldman Sachs sells derivatives in our equity markets its apparent that Goldman Sachs Has Total Control Over our stock market using the unlimited capital available from the federal reserve. I believe Goldman Sachs doesn’t have the best interest of our markets. They are misusing the federal reserve to manipulate the stock market and making huge 100 BILLION DOLLAR profits THIS IS ILLEGAL people expect our government to obey the laws just like citizen. Also this manipulation without regards for cost continues to put our government and the people more and more in debt





August 24th, 2009
9:50 am

If you can not call it racist, then you got to call it racist.


August 24th, 2009
9:52 am

Just two or three years ago caring an AR-15 to a Presidential Town Hall Meeting would have resulted in a quick detainment by the bush Secret Service/FBI/NSA/CIA and some aggressive interrogation techniques with a one-way ticket to GITMO. Remember thousands were detained in New York City during the republican convention for daring to speak out against the bushwacker, NYPD kept them in fences for days like cattle!

Suddenly, some people (republicans and so-called Libertarians) have a newfound sense of individual rights and freedom of speech. No more fenced-in, free-speech zones and protest areas miles away from the new President.

Mr. Barr doesn’t want anyone tracking these groups of god-fearing, all white gunslingers or restricting their organizing efforts by the front groups of republican lobbyists. No story here, just move along and go back to investigating Vegans and PETA.

M D Cain

August 24th, 2009
9:55 am

That’s right conservatives, just sit down and shut up. We liberals know what is best for you. How dare you question Obama’s policies. I guess dissent is only good when Republicans are in power.


August 24th, 2009
10:10 am

There are many organizations today who are no longer relevant. In order to survive, however, these groups must create a problem. Unfortunately we have created a willing audience of self proclaimed “victims” who are more than willing to embrace these fictional problems.

Cynthia Tucker comes to mind. When a pulitzer winning editor of a major newspaper proclaims in the national media that 45% to 65% of the people who are vocally against health reform are racist, it is clear how comfortable victimhood has become for a lot of people.


August 24th, 2009
10:19 am

“Racism is simply an ugly form of collectivism, the mindset that views humans strictly as members of groups rather than individuals . . . By encouraging Americans to adopt a group mentality, the advocates of so-called “diversity” actually perpetuate racism. Their obsession with racial group identity is inherently racists . . . we should understand that racism will endure until we stop thinking in terms of groups and begin thinking in terms of individual liberty.” Ron Paul

…or as I like to say…the pot calling the kettle black.

Lee Miracle

August 24th, 2009
10:20 am

A Michigan Militia’s Response To The SPLC Militia Report


Headquarters, Southeast Michigan Volunteer Militia 13 August, 2009

In response to recent panic-driven news reports concerning the growth of “racist, anti-government, right-wing militia threats” to The United States, we offer the following:

Next month, September 2009, will see the fifteenth anniversary of the founding of what has become the Southeast Michigan Volunteer Militia (SMVM). I have been an active participant in this unit since its inception. If I had been involved in anything illegal in these fifteen years, would I not have surely been arrested by now?

Before anyone takes the word of any paid employee whose very job is to distort truth and fabricate lies in order to garner support and funding for his organization, one should ask the subjects of these reports what they actually think. No free thinking person enjoys having his ideology or belief system assigned to them by anyone. Readers are invited to visit our web page at http://www.MichiganMilitia.com, and our social networking sites, so they can read all about our “ideologies” for themselves, and make their own informed decisions about who we are, what we do, and what we represent.

We deeply appreciate efforts by some of the folks at CNN who contacted us and actually asked for our input about a report regarding “the militia”. This was a pleasant surprise. We encourage all news organizations, when presented with a one-sided report, such as the one furnished by the Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC), to contact the groups in question, and at least make an effort to be fair and open-minded about things. If you are going to report about “the militia”, then shouldn’t you at least ask some “militia” people about it?

The SPLC, in what may probably be a very successful fund-raising endeavor, recently raised an alarm about the growth of “right wing militia groups”. We can appreciate the recognition of the recent growth we have experienced, but would like to clarify the reasons behind it.

Any simpleton can claim that this group or that group has grown in response to the election of America’s first African-American President. The fact is, militia groups that we know of care little for whatever color The President’s skin is. We care far, far more that he, along with every other government employee, upholds his or her oath to support, uphold, and defend The Constitution.

No, we are not concerned about The President. He is, after all, merely The President. As such, he cannot pass a single piece of legislation, nor can he rule on even one issue before The Supreme Court. Our Constitution provides an excellent system of checks and balances that prevent this, or any other President, from growing too powerful, or assuming to much control over the lives of American citizens.

However, when multiple branches of government seem to be acting in an effort to establish control over the productive energy of a free people, then said free people have cause for alarm. This is not an extreme view, it is a factual one. No American wants to be told what to drive, where to seek medical help, how warm they can keep their house, or even how effectively their toilets are allowed to flush. No American wants to be told that he cannot own the most effective means of protecting his or her own life, or the lives of his family. No American wants to be told that he must work longer hours to pay more and more of his check to support an over bloated government bureaucracy.

No, Americans want to go to bed at night, after a day’s work, and some chance to enjoy the fruits of their own labor, confident that our government is doing the job of protecting individual liberty from aggression, theft, or fraud. Americans want the promise of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness restored and protected. We don’t need to have every facet of our lives micromanaged down to the finest detail.

But there are people at every level of government who somehow think it is their divine right to interfere with, tax, regulate, and confiscate every single aspect of working Americans’ lives. This is shameful, and it doesn’t have to be this way.

But this is not the only issue causing the very pleasing and expected growth of pro-freedom militia groups. The threat of terrorism or disaster will always loom over our heads. Crime is a constant concern for many Americans. And while the threat of invasion seems at best a very distant, remote one, we would like to help keep it that way.

Americans are becoming more and more involved in militia and other preparedness training not out of fear or hatred, but out of a sense of civic duty and responsibility. We are doing this not because we are angry, but because we care about this great nation, because we care about individual rights and responsibilities, and because we care about each other.

It is easy to demonize someone with whom you disagree with labels such as “Nazi, White Supremacist, racist, extremist, hate-monger, or anti-government.” It is especially easy to do so when you are employed by a discredited far left-wing organization whose very existence depends upon frightening people into sending donations. An organization where Logic is an Enemy and Truth is a Menace.

The very idea of lumping us in with Nazi’s and White Supremacists represents a total conflict of ideologies. Nazi’s are statist collectivists and by nature crave a supreme leader to follow, while we, as freedom loving Constitutionalists, uphold the rights of the individual to live free and for themself. Our members and their families represent various cultural, religious and racial backgrounds. This does not sit well with White Supremacists or racists. And being Constitutionalists, we are a pro-constitutionally limited republic form of government our founding fathers established, and anti-corruption of that form of government.

Militia people all across this country spend their own time, energy, and money on supporting this cause, the cause of American liberty, the cause of personal rights, the cause of freedom; freedom for everyone, regardless of race, creed, color, tint, or hue, religion (or lack thereof), or political views (or lack thereof). We do not get paid to do this.

Ask Mark Potok or Morris Dees how much they get paid to “report” on us, and you might get a different answer. Then you can decide for yourself.

Lee Miracle (Weapon M), Coordinator
Southeast Michigan Volunteer Militia


August 24th, 2009
10:21 am

Folks, our country is headed in the wrong direction and that is the reason for the uptick in the “militia groups”. We are being bombarded from within and without by people that want to see America’s way of life destroyed. Thank you Bob Barr….I don’t think that you are one of the threats. It seems to me that the SPLC is trying to justify their existence…..all good things must end……maybe it’s time.

Brad Steel

August 24th, 2009
10:35 am

is this thing working? i’m getting filtered with legitimate comments.

Sunshine and Thunder

August 24th, 2009
10:39 am

The SPLC is the best example I’ve seen of the following:

“Remember, if you’re not part of the solution there’s plenty of money to be made by prolonging the problem.”


August 24th, 2009
10:54 am

I guess I sit dead center between ACORN and White Supremency.


August 24th, 2009
10:57 am

On the contrary, the SPLC


August 24th, 2009
10:59 am

On the contrary, the SPLC does this country a great service. Many hate groups are listed and categorized based upon their hate speech and threat level. Knowledge, Mr. Barr, is power. You just are not into it.


August 24th, 2009
11:12 am

Good one, Larry. How about we talk about where the liberal anti-war movement went after your guy got elected and, in fact, /escalated/ the conflicts? Oh, I forgot, you guys are only against Republican wars. If you really want to go on the attack, I’d suggest a different strategy other than, ‘Well, Bush did it and Bush was /worse/ so we’re right.”

mary conley

August 24th, 2009
11:24 am

just for the record.

the “Obama Hitler ” signs.

the posters were created and distributed by the group affiliated with Lyndon LaRouche, a seven-time far-left Democratic presidential candidate who spent many years as a Trotsky-ite and is best-known as a propagator of wild conspiracy theories.


August 24th, 2009
11:26 am

DGROY:”We are being bombarded from within and without by people that want to see America’s way of life destroyed”

Since when is trying to help Americans get affordable health care destroying America’s way of life?


August 24th, 2009
11:26 am

August 24th, 2009
10:19 am

Good quote from Ron Paul. And Paul is entirely correct. The Constitution gives the majority the power to govern. But the Constitution also limits the power of the majority & protects the individual rights of citizens. Individual rights, not group rights.
Example: Christians as a group have zero rights. Christians as individuals have the 1st Am right to worship free from government interference.

“Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion,
or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;…”


August 24th, 2009
12:00 pm

OK, bush wasn’t soooo bad if you forget about warrantless wiretapping, corporate immunity, the politicization of the Department of Justice, the Blackwater murders, torture, extraordinary rendition, fraudulent rewriting of scientific reports, or blanket false public statements in an effort to sell the country on a phony war.

Brad Steel

August 24th, 2009
12:21 pm

since my reasoned critic can’t pass the filter, how about this: bob barr sucks.


August 24th, 2009
1:18 pm

@ Davo I say Bravo for you sir are 100% correct.
@ Lee Miracle why do you suppose it is only the far left that wants to tax and take away your liberty. Wasn’t it the Bush administration that wanted to tap phones and wanted people to tell if there were meeting or gatherings of people of like minds? I think whether you are far right or far left there are problems that need to be addressed. Just becuase I like something doesn’t mean it is for the good of everyone.
@ Nadorn, After serving 10 years in the Army I don’t agree with any wars. However I always felt the war was justified just not being fought in the right place. I did not like Saddam but at the time he was not the enemy we needed or wanted. It was like we chose the easiest and most accessible dictator besides Castro and went after him.

Will Harris

August 24th, 2009
1:21 pm

I disagree with the paranoia evoked both by Republicans and Democrats in regards to Al Qaeda and militas respectively but at least the Republicans are paranoid about a group that is actually well armed and ambitious whereas the Democrats are paranoid about a bunch of of hicks that are trying to wait out the Rapture.
Militas are as “dangerous” as anarchist teenagers. They’re actually probably less dangerous since at least anarchist teenagers vandalize mailboxes sometimes.


August 24th, 2009
1:28 pm

Bob, you paying $300.00 a month for your health ins.? I’m still waiting.


August 24th, 2009
2:08 pm

After some further research on the subject of militias,I find that there is no limit to the number of people that may constitute a militia and that a single individual acting in his own self defense may be considered a militia.So I’m a militia,in the strictest sense of the word.I guess I really do bear watching.


August 24th, 2009
2:15 pm

Ghandi, wanting everyone to have the OPPORTUNITY to have AFFORDABLE health care is as American as apple pie. However, FORCING Government-run, rationed health care, or at least something that could easily evolve into it, onto the public against our will (at least against the will of 45% to 65% of Americans) stinks of totalitarianism. If you really want affordable health care, why not advocate changes that actually fix the causes of high health care costs, as opposed to just throwing the tax dollars of productive citizens into the fire.

Jim Callihan

August 24th, 2009
2:18 pm

If “We The People” are not going to demand enforcement of Article II, Sec. 4 of the US Constitution (yes, impeachment and removal from office can and does include “misdemeanors”), who in the hell will?

I do not recall the credit of this qoute, but it forever holds true:
“Lawyers will never vote against themselves, nor place in their path, an obstacle to power.”

Pervasive corruption in Congress (and throughout all of American government) has brought this on…and it’s not about race.



August 24th, 2009
3:27 pm

Larry, I totally agree with you on Bush. But that’s like saying, ‘Well, this burning pile of ash is better than this other one because it smells sort of piney’. Obama continued a lot of his policies that were so reviled while Bush did it, yet suddenly it’s just peachy when Obama does it? Or, for the Reps, just fine when Bush did it but horrible when Obama does it. Hypocrisy rests on both sides, as it tends to do when you degrade 300 million people’s views into a political system with a mere 2 powers that get along with each other more often than not.

We’d be better off if we kicked them both out and started from scratch.


August 24th, 2009
3:28 pm

Larry, did Bush really tap telephone hard lines ?


August 24th, 2009
4:03 pm

Let me get this right … the Atlanta Journal-Constitution gives op-ed column space to that psycho clown Bob Barr? And pretends he’s a voice any rational person should listen to?

lol! rofl! Did Murdoch buy the AJ-C and nobody told me?

Dr. R

August 24th, 2009
4:06 pm

Remember, though, one man’s hate group is another man’s community organizers. Too often, we lump everyone we disagree with together, label them “Nazis” or hate groups, and fail to engage whatever valid arguments they may claim to have. That’s not to say real racist motives don’t exist, and that real hate groups should not be marginalized. But I’m not willing to let an organization with a clear ideological agenda decide that for me.


August 24th, 2009
4:12 pm

Yeah, life is getting to be a bi tc h here in AmeriKa, ya can’t call a person a retard anymore, calling a fat female a fatty is considered sexual harassment (I see nothing sexual in fat, trust me on this), and the Dummycrats think we should all pay more for health care, while the repukes think torture in a good cause is A ok. Perhaps we should dissolve the Union, and go it alone as fifty separate countries? As long as Athens, Ga ain’t the capital of any of them…


August 24th, 2009
4:13 pm

The SPLC has been “LOW” as in lowdown frauds, demagogues and smear masters for hire for two decades now. The dirt on them is properly classified as a mountain. See the links and sources in this expose on the SPLC.



August 24th, 2009
5:15 pm

Andrew: Subtitute Insurance for Government and your statement would be more accurate. Health care is already rationed, and denied, by the insurance companies. The American public has consistently polled well above 50% for decades in favor of some kind of universal health care. Funny that you accuse the most conciliatory of presidents that I can recall in my lifetime as “totalitarian”. Bush and the Republicans, were much more so. There is nothing in the health care proposals that is FORCING anyone. Why is it that we can throw all the money we want at corporations, but it is un-american, and totalitarian to direct some of it back to ourselves in the form of affordable health care?


August 24th, 2009
5:17 pm

Steve, outstanding post. The SPLC is a cultural Marxist propaganda & “witch hunt” outfit funded by the Globalist Elite. They are opposed to true freedoms in our Bill of Rights.



August 24th, 2009
6:10 pm

I don’t think we’ll ever know just what Bush actually tapped and stored.Or why it was done.Oe what’s really going to be done with the info.Just remember that this stuff is still active.


August 24th, 2009
6:35 pm

The SPLC was a force for many years. By suing KKK organizations for damages & winning those suits, the SPLC bankrupted most KKK organizations in the US. And you saw Barr’s remarks that he used their organization in his own battles against KKK type organizations when he was US Attorney.

Whether you like that or dislike that is, of course, depending on how you view racial discrimination.

William Trapnell

August 24th, 2009
8:23 pm

Mr. Barr is showing his age in this most recent “invention of opinionated fact”. The world has changed drastically and the redneck element of society has been given the impression that they can tote their guns, discriminate, carry the Hitler banners, all-white banners and just say most anything that comes up and show as much disrespect for any Congressman or Senator as they desire. This is directly due to eight years of unrestricted, uncontrollable, rampant ARROGANCE FROM THE BUSH/CHENEY “REPUBLICAN ADMINISTRATION”. The namne of the game was to kick ass and ignore all domestic problems – FOR EIGHT LONG YEARS.

There are replacements now apparent for the former Ku Klux Klan and Aryan Nations. Mr. Barr has not been able to move forward in his thinking with regard to “changes in the enemy”. I would like to have an explanation as to the gun strapped to the leg of a protester at a recent townhall meeting – a direct threat to President Obama. How do you explain the very disturbing numbers of militias (new and not so new) in the State of Georgia??????? Why are guns more popular now than washing machines or refrigerators, especially since the last Presidential election?

No, Mr. Barr……it is not the SPLC who has sunk to a low…..perhaps you should examine your out-dated philosophies and criticisms. Race is foremost in the minds of those mentally challenged, white rednecks who are still of the opinion that only WHITE PEOPLE should run the show or have any say-so regarding this country. Why are you never critical of that element’s philosophy or actions??????

the evil rich

August 24th, 2009
10:17 pm

Bob, you wasted ink on this one. WHO really CARES about the race-baiting SPLC? Just another ACORN type group.


August 25th, 2009
6:08 am

Excellent article from Lee Miracle, Michigan Militia …guessing Michigan is about hot as a match head about their total situation (caused mostly by thug unions)…

SPLC grasps at straws to perpetuate their jobs…like loiwyers do, right? SPLC and NAALCP have lost their missions … missions accomplished.

Richard Keefe

August 25th, 2009
6:55 am

This “report” is merely the latest in a long line of fund raising tools devised by the SPLC’s public relations guru, Mark Potok. Mr. Potok has no legal or law enforcement experience, yet for some reason, the revered “law center” compensates him with more than $143,000 donor dollars a year (up $4,500 from the previous year).

In return for his six digit salary, Mr. Potok masterminds the SPLC’s ongoing fear campaign that is focused directly on their well meaning, but sadly gullible, and mostly elderly donor base. Potok seems to be worth the money as the SPLC now sits atop a $200 MILLION donor dollar “Endowment Fund”.

Last year the interest alone on the “Endowment Fund” was over $25 million dollars. In the same period, the SPLC reported spending $7 million dollars in “legal expenses”. (If all the lawyers are being paid salary and actual court costs range from a few hundred to a few thousand dollars, what exactly ARE those extra “expenses”?) The SPLC received an additional $26 million in direct donations.

A few recent quotes from Mr. Potok:

March, 2008: “…a “hate group” has nothing to do with criminality… [or] potential for violence…” Rather, as Potok put it, “It’s all about ideology.”

In short, if you don’t agree with Mo Dees’ ideology you must be a “hater”.

March 25, 2009: “Potok says inclusion on the ["hate group"] list might come from a minor presence, such as a post office box.” (http://www.sanluisobispo.com/news/local/story/672197.html)

July 6, 2009: “Mark Potok, who has directed the SLPC’s Intelligence Project for 12 years, said the report relies on media, citizen and law enforcement reports, and does not include original reporting by SLPC [sic]staff.”


Potok is pulling down $143,000 donor dollars a year to run a glorified news clipping service.

7/21/09: “Still, [Potok] said the public should remain vigilant about the activities of hate groups, even though individuals are responsible for the majority of hate crimes in America.”

If individuals are responsible for the majority of “hate,” why does the SPLC focus exclusively on spurious groups?

Potok’s boss, Morris Dees, was a multimillionaire the day he opened the SPLC in 1971. The “civil rights champion” now compensates himself $350,000 donor dollars a year, (up $20,000 donor dollars from the previous year), and charges $10,000 a pop for his frequent speaking engagements. Oddly, these speaking fees don’t seem to appear on the SPLC’s tax returns.

See pages 11 and 40 of the SPLC’s most recent IRS Form 990 (http://www.splcenter.org/pdf/static/SPLC990_2007.pdf)

In January, Dees agreed to speak to a black civil rights group in Michigan in honor of Martin Luther King, Jr.’s birthday. When the group couldn’t scrape up the Champ’s $10,000 speaking fee, they had to cancel the event.

Multimillionaire Dees couldn’t even throw them a freebie in honor of MLK.

No dough. No Mo.


The SPLC has always been about the money and always will be.

Coastal Cavalier

August 25th, 2009
8:52 am

“Race is foremost in the minds of those mentally challenged, white rednecks who are still of the opinion that only WHITE PEOPLE should run the show or have any say-so regarding this country.”

Race is foremost in the minds of the federal government and has been for years, under both Reps and Dems. Everything coming out of the Federal government has a racial undertone.

First Sergeant

August 25th, 2009
9:08 am

Lee Miracle, I have a question for you; why now? Where were you and your organization when the previous presidential administration violated your constitutional rights by “interfering with, taxed, regulated, and confiscated every single aspect of working Americans’ lives? Where were you?

You see, your stated cause is flawed. Kinda sound like another form of the old “KKK” to me. Not buying it!!

First Sergeant

August 25th, 2009
9:28 am

Ghandi, you probably won’t get a response to your question because it makes sooo much sense. You know, it simply amazes me at how people avoid/deny conversation about the Bush/Cheney destruction of our constitution, economy, and our military, but are quick to provide their assessments of president Obama’s actions to date. As I mentioned earlier, Lee Miracle, I’m not buying your story!!


August 25th, 2009
9:31 am

GHANDI: Go back and read the article, if you can in fact, Read…..the article I commented on had nothing to do with Healthcare….

lance sjogren

August 25th, 2009
10:21 am

“I guess I sit dead center between ACORN and White Supremency.”

That’s not something to be proud of. ACORN and White Supremacists are very similar. They both loathe individual rights and civil liberties.

lance sjogren

August 25th, 2009
10:25 am


I know it is really irritating to those like you who believe in a Police State when pro-government propaganda outlets like the AJC throw in an article once in a while that does not parrot the Party Line- presumably so they can delude themselves into thinking they still are “journalists” rather than the unofficial government propaganda ministers which they actually are.


August 25th, 2009
10:43 am

Yup, according to Morris Dees, if you think the American People should have a clue about who’s crossing our borders, you must be a “racist.” BTW, Moe, just what “race” are Mexican citizens anyway? And, does the “racist” label apply to African-American or Hispanic US citizens concerned about drug smuggling, human trafficking, and terrorism? Inquiring minds want to know!


August 25th, 2009
12:04 pm

The Southern Wealthy Law Center has made it’s millions like Jesse Jackson, a shake down outfit with very wealthy lawyers running it. Their press releases read like a fiction novel. No one but the extreme lefties pay any attention to this “the sky is falling” race group. Any group that labels Americans that support secure borders as racists loses any credibility fast. These folks are amusing now.


August 25th, 2009
12:19 pm

Opinions are great. But they don’t count unless you voted in the last election. And my guess is that most bloggers didn’t.


August 25th, 2009
12:41 pm

On the one hand it’s a bit surprisingly welcome to see Barr write this. On the other, it needs to be pointed ou that Barr supports some form of amnesty, something that would give groups like the SPLC even more power than they have now. During the election, his campaign (not that I followed it that closely) said at least one thing that could have come from the SPLC. In other words, Barr isn’t exactly fundamentally opposed to the far-left goals of the SPLC. But, in case he wants to discuss them again, perhaps he could ask them whether they’re still part of a coalition headed by someone with a series of links to the Mexican government:



August 25th, 2009
2:11 pm

I have watched what these groups do for years. These racist angry women mainly target white males, as does the SPLC. Many people in this nation, are on the whole, too stupid to understand any of this and will suffer the consequences. The SPLC and many of these other groups create, and thrive on the racial tension they claim to abhor.

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Frank Lee

August 25th, 2009
3:19 pm

SPLC = Slimy Putrid Lying Charlatans

Frank Lee

August 25th, 2009
3:26 pm

Philip said:
“On the contrary, the SPLC does this country a great service. Many hate groups are listed and categorized based upon their hate speech and threat level. Knowledge, Mr. Barr, is power. You just are not into it” ————————————————————————————————————————

But oddly, the SPLC doesn’t have any of the many Hispanic/Latino brown supremacist hate groups, such as National Council of La Raza, listed on its infamous “Hate List”.

david carney

August 25th, 2009
4:43 pm

The Michigan Militia’s website includes job descriptions like “Rifleman1,” “Rifleman2″ and “Medic.” Clearly, MM is preparing for armed conflict.

The U.S. military requires all inductees to swear an oath to protect the Constitution. Michigan Militia makes vague assertions about government telling people what to do, but they offer no alternative to government except heavily armed, ad hoc private armies. These private armies have no accountability to anybody. But the U.S. Constitution offers protocols for how government and citizens must account for themselves. The neo-anarchists of the so-called militia movement perceive themselves as existing above and beyond any public accountability. How easily we forget about Oklahoma City.
Bob Barr’s sanitizing of the militia movements agenda makes one legitimately wonder whether he receives financial support from such groups.


August 25th, 2009
9:41 pm

DGROY:”We are being bombarded from within and without by people that want to see America’s way of life destroyed”

Well then, who, specifically, are these straw people that are trying to destroy America? My apologies if I mistook your words as reference to the to the clamor over health care. I have no idea what you are talking about otherwise. All I know is the venom spewed Obama’s way over his health care initiative is all out of proportion to his kindly intention of trying to help out his fellow man.

Khalil Malik

August 25th, 2009
10:39 pm

The need to not make decision base on hate or fear is not a good thing, second hand and beyond is not good in analyzing information, to define what is good or bad for me the litmus test is “it should be for everybody, or it should not be for nobody”, having something the only a few can enjoy at the expense of the many who can not is not equitable. Can we all just get along? We should be better at playing with others.

Khalil Malik

August 25th, 2009
11:04 pm

Capitalism is the economic system we’re using, just as the english language is made up of words that have there origins from many cultures and countries throughout this planet inside of our economic system attributes of many other systems exist that help it to stand out among the rest. The frustrations many of us are experiencing are a result of less resources and the isolation from one another and not having dialog. Wether the usefulness has come or gone for any body or thing bares out in time. We’ve got a lot of house cleaning to do, have a great day, Peace.


August 26th, 2009
7:53 am

GHANDI: Are you in Australia trying to imitate the Ostriches? Man, get your head out of the sand, open your eyes, take your blinders off, quit being led around by the B***s…..oh,


August 26th, 2009
11:45 am

Dgroy: Someone is being led around …. but who? Are you so sure Rush and Neal and Sean et al aren’t leading you around like the toy you are?

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September 3rd, 2009
2:41 am

So have you forgotten about Oklahoma city ? The Michigan Militia kills 1000 people and S-11 about three times that. You would be bleating loud enough if the US government did not closely watch Islamic militants in the US on privacy grounds. Why are the Militias not worthy of the same attention ? Just cos they is god fearin white folks ?

Kristin. MN.

September 5th, 2009
5:46 pm

The SPLC has ALWAYS had a far left political agenda. They turned their guns on white traditional america a long, long time ago. They were created for that purpose.


September 5th, 2009
10:07 pm

To “Dave” : Dave, No one in any Michigan Militia had anything to do with OKC, No one in any Michigan Militia would have wanted anyone killed, PERIOD. If you have any evidence that says they have, contact the FBI NOW. My name and address can be traced through the web-site. If not, PLEASE KEEP YOUR LIES TO YOURSELF. http://www.MichiganMilitia.com