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		<title>By: Mrs. Norris</title>
		<link>http://blogs.ajc.com/bob-barr-blog/2009/08/05/obesity-is-target-of-stimulus-money/comment-page-2/#comment-3726</link>
		<dc:creator>Mrs. Norris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2009 13:30:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marie, you are funny.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marie, you are funny.</p>
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		<title>By: gloom and doomer</title>
		<link>http://blogs.ajc.com/bob-barr-blog/2009/08/05/obesity-is-target-of-stimulus-money/comment-page-2/#comment-3718</link>
		<dc:creator>gloom and doomer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2009 03:28:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No. That would be the HOA where I live.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No. That would be the HOA where I live.</p>
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		<title>By: Funk</title>
		<link>http://blogs.ajc.com/bob-barr-blog/2009/08/05/obesity-is-target-of-stimulus-money/comment-page-2/#comment-3717</link>
		<dc:creator>Funk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 19:52:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nazi&#039;s ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nazi&#8217;s ?</p>
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		<title>By: Marie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 16:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let them eat cake.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let them eat cake.</p>
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		<title>By: TW</title>
		<link>http://blogs.ajc.com/bob-barr-blog/2009/08/05/obesity-is-target-of-stimulus-money/comment-page-2/#comment-3714</link>
		<dc:creator>TW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 14:39:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow. Attacks on nutrition, school kids and working folks. Thanks for the help, Bob. 

Perhaps Borat&#039;s mom did make that cheese...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow. Attacks on nutrition, school kids and working folks. Thanks for the help, Bob. </p>
<p>Perhaps Borat&#8217;s mom did make that cheese&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: HSR0601</title>
		<link>http://blogs.ajc.com/bob-barr-blog/2009/08/05/obesity-is-target-of-stimulus-money/comment-page-2/#comment-3713</link>
		<dc:creator>HSR0601</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 08:07:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In case the health care reform provides the general public with peace of mind, the rising mental stress or illness caused by financial instability may bend the curve surprisingly,
in combination with kicking out the &#039;keep eating habit&#039; to forget the deep-seated instability and apprehension, I guess.
&#039;Work or Break&#039; health system with no brake or safety system might be one of the biggest hidden causes of mental stress, obesity or overweight threatening the overall economy, I cautiously suppose.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In case the health care reform provides the general public with peace of mind, the rising mental stress or illness caused by financial instability may bend the curve surprisingly,<br />
in combination with kicking out the &#8216;keep eating habit&#8217; to forget the deep-seated instability and apprehension, I guess.<br />
&#8216;Work or Break&#8217; health system with no brake or safety system might be one of the biggest hidden causes of mental stress, obesity or overweight threatening the overall economy, I cautiously suppose.</p>
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		<title>By: bustathug</title>
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		<dc:creator>bustathug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 23:42:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This obamaunistic program make me racist!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This obamaunistic program make me racist!</p>
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		<title>By: dgroy</title>
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		<dc:creator>dgroy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 21:52:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you, Bob Barr, a great american, for telling it like it is.  Our government is slowly but surely ruining this great country.  Obama is an idiot.....wake up people and quit being like sheep.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you, Bob Barr, a great american, for telling it like it is.  Our government is slowly but surely ruining this great country.  Obama is an idiot&#8230;..wake up people and quit being like sheep.</p>
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		<title>By: JF McNamara</title>
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		<dc:creator>JF McNamara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 21:01:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Billy Bob,

Here&#039;s what you wrote:

&quot;Drug use, smoking, drunk driving and other behaviors will also be further encouraged by the pending national healthcare legislation that covers everyone equally.&quot;

From context, you applied this to your main point on obesity. 

I was pointing out that the opposite appears to be true given the data. If our merit based healthcare(for lack of a better word) is so much better, how come we&#039;re not at lower obesity levels than the socialized countries? If it&#039;s already cheaper to be healthy, but people aren&#039;t. Why?

There&#039;s either no correlation or socialized is somehow better in terms of how obesity is treated or viewed. The obesity rates are what the obesity rates are, and that&#039;s what the data says. There&#039;s plenty of noise in the data for sure, but we are double Canada. 

What you originally said is completely opinion and not supported by any facts. You can&#039;t hold me to a higher standard. If you want to prove your point, provide me with some facts in return. Otherwise, it&#039;s pointless to go on because its unlikely that I&#039;m going to change your opinion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Billy Bob,</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s what you wrote:</p>
<p>&#8220;Drug use, smoking, drunk driving and other behaviors will also be further encouraged by the pending national healthcare legislation that covers everyone equally.&#8221;</p>
<p>From context, you applied this to your main point on obesity. </p>
<p>I was pointing out that the opposite appears to be true given the data. If our merit based healthcare(for lack of a better word) is so much better, how come we&#8217;re not at lower obesity levels than the socialized countries? If it&#8217;s already cheaper to be healthy, but people aren&#8217;t. Why?</p>
<p>There&#8217;s either no correlation or socialized is somehow better in terms of how obesity is treated or viewed. The obesity rates are what the obesity rates are, and that&#8217;s what the data says. There&#8217;s plenty of noise in the data for sure, but we are double Canada. </p>
<p>What you originally said is completely opinion and not supported by any facts. You can&#8217;t hold me to a higher standard. If you want to prove your point, provide me with some facts in return. Otherwise, it&#8217;s pointless to go on because its unlikely that I&#8217;m going to change your opinion.</p>
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		<title>By: Billy Bob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Billy Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 20:30:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JF McNamara

I think correlations of such a &lt;i&gt;qualitative&lt;/i&gt; nature are spurious and unreliable.  To conclude that nationalized healthcare would mean a reduction in obesity levels ignores the cause obesity - ignorance and overeating, not a lack of healthcare coverage.

If you look at the American healthcare system &lt;i&gt;currently&lt;/i&gt; you also see large segments already socialized.  Anyone on Medicare, Medicaid or SCHIP is involved in socialized medicine.  It would be interesting to see how these populations rank in terms of rates of obesity.  

I do agree with your philosophy of personal freedom and believe that philosophy could be put into practice in the health insurance industry.  Insurance companies should penalize (through higher premiums) those who are overweight, smoke, fail a drug test or have a DUI.  Healthy individuals should be charged less.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JF McNamara</p>
<p>I think correlations of such a <i>qualitative</i> nature are spurious and unreliable.  To conclude that nationalized healthcare would mean a reduction in obesity levels ignores the cause obesity &#8211; ignorance and overeating, not a lack of healthcare coverage.</p>
<p>If you look at the American healthcare system <i>currently</i> you also see large segments already socialized.  Anyone on Medicare, Medicaid or SCHIP is involved in socialized medicine.  It would be interesting to see how these populations rank in terms of rates of obesity.  </p>
<p>I do agree with your philosophy of personal freedom and believe that philosophy could be put into practice in the health insurance industry.  Insurance companies should penalize (through higher premiums) those who are overweight, smoke, fail a drug test or have a DUI.  Healthy individuals should be charged less.</p>
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