Presidential Bloviation Is Contagious

President Barack Obama is succumbing to the same malady that infected his predecessor, George W. Bush — falling in love with the sound of his own voice. 

Bush would begin his news conferences with a rambling discussion of something or other, and then as the media representatives asked questions, he would get really revved up, and his answers would get longer and longer and more and more rambling.  Even Mr. Bush’s very last news conference before he left office on January 20th, was excruciating to watch and listen to; as the soon-to-be ex-President rambled on and on about the accomplishments of his soon-to-be ex-presidency, and obviously enjoying what he apparently perceived as eloquent and insightful bloviating.  Of course, the former President’s answers to media questions were, like his more formal speeches, anything but eloquent.

President Obama, who is by any objective measure, a gifted speaker and clearly more knowledgeable about sentence structure and word useage than his predecessor, does not help himself or the policies he seeks to implement by his increasing tendency to pontificate.  The still-novice President appears to find it increasingly difficult to do what at least some of his predecessors (not including George W. Bush) were able to do — answer questions clearly and make the points they wished to make concisely, and then move on.

Instead, Obama more and more is starting to repeat himself, restate positions unnecessarily, and return to topics best left alone. Perhaps Mr. Obama actually believes it beneficial to deepen the hole in which one finds oneself, by returning to a prior mistake.  Or maybe he really does just like to listen to himself talk.  What is clear is the President is talking too much but saying too little.  Two examples — health care “reform” and the “Professor Gates” case.

Regarding health care “reform,” the President just a few days ago consumed an hour of prime time television discussing once again his proposal.  Apparently unaware of the adage that the person who keeps repeating the same thing either has something to hide or doesn’t himself believe what he’s selling, Mr. Obama offered up the very same simplistic answers and “explanations” as he had done for the previous several weeks.  His comments are woefully short on facts. 

The problem Obama faces is that such sound-bite ruminations will carry you only so far, and sooner or later people will see through such rose-tinted rhetoric.  The President’s crack aides might remind their boss that one of his historic mentors, Abraham Lincoln, was right when he noted that even a president can only “fool some of the people all the time, and all of the people only some of the time”; but that no one can “fool all of the people all of the time.”  Recent polls suggest the public has reached the saturation point for empty administration rhetoric on health care “reform.”

Mr. Obama over the past week or so, has enmeshed himself in another issue that should not have occupied the public attention of the President — the controversy between Harvard Professor Henry Gates and Cambridge Police Sgt. Crowley.  He voluntarily stepped into that briar patch before arming himself with the facts, and then kept returning to that same thorn bush.  At one point in one of his several public pronouncements on the Gates-Crowley controversy, Obama urged his listeners (press and public alike) to “step back” and defuse the situation; even as he kept stepping into the melee and igniting the very fuse he lectured others to snuff out.

Unfortunately, in this last situation, the result of all this presidential attention has been to create and focus on a racial scenario that obscures the real problems the Cambridge incident brought to light – questions involving the sanctity of one’s own home; the proper basis for a police search and arrest; the burden of proving one is who one says they are in their own home.  But these are topics for perhaps a next Blog. 

For now, let’s hope this President quickly educates himself so he understands and accepts the value of short, clear, accurate, fact-based answers to questions.  Ahhh, wouldn’t that be refreshing?

95 comments Add your comment

Alex Clarke

July 29th, 2009
6:36 am

Nice use of ‘bloviation’. Surprised you didn’t try to get ‘rodomontade’ in there too.

Rob

July 29th, 2009
6:43 am

You liberals are in trouble…

Howard Beale

July 29th, 2009
6:50 am

This president is clearly over-educated, particularly in the teachings of former Chicago rabble-rouser Saul Alinsky. His use of the Oval Office as a podium from which he is attempting to orchestrate the most heinous power-grab and blatant disregard for the U. S. Constitution is truly astounding and insidious.

It is not going to make a difference if this man were to learn how to answer questions with short, clear, accurate, fact-based answers to questions. He won’t provide those answers, for if he did, it would expose his policies for the naked Marxism, and fascist Corporatism they stand for.

Bob Dobolina

July 29th, 2009
7:01 am

He’s spending too much time hanging around with Biden.

Bob Dobolina

July 29th, 2009
7:06 am

“Over-educated”. Gotta love that. We’re living in an Orwellian world where the GOP has convinced its idiot base that education is a bad thing and stupidity is somehow equivalent to being “real”. Wonderful. I suspect, if the Republicans have their way, we’ll soon become part of the Third World, selling charcoal from wheelbarrows and raising goats on our front lawns. Could we please try to remember that education–not deer hunting–is what made America a world superpower? Elitism is thinking that you’re smarter than someone who’s been to college.

DawgSpanky!

July 29th, 2009
7:17 am

How many press conferences has OTaxya had thus far? It seems like it’s been around 752 and counting. This smug and narcissistic man clearly loves the sound of his own voice. It’s just a matter of time until he directs his clueless and gutless puppets in congress to enact legislation renaming the USA to the OSA (Obama’s Socialist America).

George

July 29th, 2009
7:25 am

BOB D I hate to tell you but if the other party had their way we well not even have wheelbarrows to transport the charcoal, much less selling it. As far as elitism the best definition I could fine for it was
“The belief that certain persons or members of certain classes or groups deserve favored treatment by virtue of their perceived superiority, as in intellect, social status, or financial resources.” Don’t really see anything in there about college so you might want to
1. try and go to one and help yourself. or
2 stick a sock in it because what Mr. Barr had to say was the truth and you just can’t stand it.
Obama is still trying to sell idiots like you a bill of goods that he can’t float while the rest of us are sitting back smiling and saying WE TOLD YOU SO.

Jim Callihan

July 29th, 2009
7:44 am

The President chose “Joe”, just as the Rockefeller-Federal Reserve-NWO bunch chose him – the best “servant” for their purpose. The bed has been made…now let us lie. Nothing is as it seems without deeper understanding.

maranatha

BRS

July 29th, 2009
7:47 am

Come on. Talk about wind-bagging. Short, clear? Listen to your own advice. The right wing finger-pointing whiners are usually right in the middle of committing the exact same thing that they are whining about. But what can you expect from this article’s professional politician author. At least we are through with 8 years of non-thinking, misreading of teleprompters. I am so tired of hearing so much complaining but never any concrete helpful answers for ‘all’ the people. Not just rantings to get elected.

stan lippmann

July 29th, 2009
7:59 am

bob,
You were doing okay until the end. This is not about police brutality. It’s about political corruption.

Pennsylvanian

July 29th, 2009
8:03 am

BRS @ 7:47
Is Juan Williams at NPR a right wing finger pointer? He made some scathing remarks last night about Obama running his mouth when asked about the Gates affair.

jconservative

July 29th, 2009
8:28 am

“questions involving the sanctity of one’s own home; the proper basis for a police search and arrest; the burden of proving one is who one says they are in their own home. But these are topics for perhaps a next Blog.”

Bob, this (above)is a lot more important than Obama’s love of his own voice. Most politicians fall into that trap – if you will recall you did the same.

As soon as that policeman knew he was talking to a citizen in his own home he should have turned on his heel & got back into his car. Anything else he did was dead wrong. If he does not know that he has no business wearing a police uniform.

Another example of the rape of the 4th Amendment.

The 4th Am is being raped & pillaged and the idiot NRA is hollering about a new Supreme Court Justice whose opinion on the 2nd Am is unknown to anyone on the planet. One might guess, but one does not know. One KNOWS the 4th Am is being raped. And only a few of us seem to care.

Pennsylvanian

July 29th, 2009
8:50 am

How about congressional bloviating? Rep. John Conyers, on the record, saying there is no need to read the health care reform bill because it is so long and complicated it would take “2 days and 2 lawyers” to read. And they want us to trust them?

Chuck

July 29th, 2009
9:19 am

I don’t know, Bob. Did it really require nine paragraphs to talk about the value of “short, clear, accurate, fact-based answers”? Talk about bloviation.

WBK

July 29th, 2009
9:54 am

jconservative:
You give up your 4th ammendment rights and I will give up my 2nd ammendment rights! Ok? Or do you want me to give up my rights and you keep the rights you want. Ummm….sounds awful progressive liberalism to me.

4th ammendment:
“The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.”

The officer did not enter the home but did ask to enter and was denied. Where does the 4th apply?

Your guild have taken away my property rights due to political agendas, so called global warming, so called air pollution ect…for instance no one is allowed to burn paper and trash on their premises. Why? I am sure your constitutional minded ways can give me a great answer to that. I have all my rights or I do not. I am a free person. I will live or die that way–no exceptions.

BRS

July 29th, 2009
9:56 am

To Pennsylvanian: Just what I’m talking about. How about everyone just get to talking about how they can do things better. Not how someone rambles, or comments, or judges. Lets get down to business. Not slanderous vote searching. If we used all this effort to just come up with better ideas. The right can only put down any ideas, but just as they proved, they didn’t have any good ones, except for making their own pockets bigger. That’s why they lost the last elections so bad. And all they can do is come up with Palin. PLEASE *#&@$(%@!!! Another front whining figurehead, all talk and fingerpointing and no ideas. Or commitment to where she was elected to serve. Only political ladder climbing by her. Say what they want to hear to get elected. And then cut the line, do what you want. Wow, what a maverick, ha. So transparent and pathetic. Like Barr, party hopping, finger pointing, log in my eye. Guess what, God hates divorce more than all other sexual sins. (i.e., Newt)

WBK

July 29th, 2009
9:58 am

Pennsylvanian:
I totally agree with you…John Conyers is a joke. They call us idiots and his constituents keep voting him back into office. I guess I have the wrong definition of idiot.

CJ

July 29th, 2009
10:02 am

Bob, you should know about loving the sound of your own voice. With a black man holding the highest office in the land, perhaps now you can come out of the closet and admit that you are black, than you can find out what it is like to be racially profiled. Embrace your heritage man, you have been in denial way to long. The truth will set you free.

Elephant Whip

July 29th, 2009
10:02 am

Beale:

1) Describe the blatant disregard for the US Constitution exhibited by the Obama administration thus far.

2) Explain how someone is a naked Marxist and corporate fascist at the same time.

Elephant Whip

July 29th, 2009
10:06 am

WBK:

4th Amendment: protects against search AND SEIZURE. Protection against SEIZURE includes seizure of the person, not just entry into the house. That’s what it means when it says it is “the right of the people to be secure in their persons”

Chris Salzmann

July 29th, 2009
10:08 am

Chuck July 29th, 2009 9:19 am SAID: I don’t know, Bob. Did it really require nine paragraphs to talk about the value of “short, clear, accurate, fact-based answers”? Talk about bloviation.

CHRIS SAYS: Chuck, I couldn’t put my finger on it but then you hit the nail on the head!!! ROFLMAO

WBK

July 29th, 2009
10:21 am

Elephant Whip:
He did not SEIZE Gates in his home did he? Now where does the 4th apply?

Pennsylvanian

July 29th, 2009
10:22 am

BRS – Did someone pee in your cheerios? Palin? Divorce? LMAO.

Mrs. Norris

July 29th, 2009
10:22 am

President Obama’s mother should have told him, “least said, soonest mended.”

As far as Professor Gates, he should move to my neighbhorhood. The police would never respond to a burglary in progress. Please.

Paul A

July 29th, 2009
10:24 am

“Let me be clear”…. everything is George Bush’s fault.

We inherited this deficit and we’ve quadrupled it.
This is clearly Dick Cheney’s fault.

I acted stupidly when I jumped into Gates Gate…

“Well…. At least my wife is finally proud to be an American.”

Road Scholar

July 29th, 2009
10:28 am

Is this the same issue that Sarah Palin is guilty of? Supposedly/alledgedly knowing something about national and international politics? At least he can speak in clear, coherent thoughts and sentences…you know with a noun and verb! And with the end of a sentence in sight!

Chris Salzmann

July 29th, 2009
10:28 am

stan lippmann July 29th, 2009 7:59 am SAID: bob, You were doing okay until the end. This is not about police brutality. It’s about political corruption.

CHRIS SAYS: Wrong. Under MA law, you can only be arrested for disorderly conduct if you are preventing members of the public from going about their lawful business. It would be pretty difficult to achieve that in the privacy of one’s own home since the public had not been inconvenienced in any way. No, Obama was right about the police acting stupid.

Here’s another example of police acting stupid. Did you all read that story about the mentally disabled and deaf man who was pepper sprayed, tasered and arrested in Mobile, Alabama? The police tried to charge him with (1) Resisting arrest (2) Failure to obey a police officer and (3) Disorderly conduct. This episode came to an end when the magistrate on duty (the only intelligent officer of the law in this episode) at the jail refused to accept any of those charges. BTW, the police tried to bring those charges AFTER finding out that the man was mentally disabled and deaf. Oh, and the victim in this case, was also Black.

The link to this story is here:
http://www.al.com/news/press-register/metro.ssf?/base/news/124877253351170.xml&coll=3

WBK

July 29th, 2009
10:29 am

I personally think Professor Gates is a racist. And POTUS backed him up. Was Professor Gates behavior conducive to a Harvard Professor’s professionalism. As they say” Education doesnt cure stupid”!

WBK

July 29th, 2009
10:31 am

Chris Salzmann:

I am sure if I search the archives long enought I will find a white guy who was treated the same way. But that does not make the news–does it.

Chris Salzmann

July 29th, 2009
10:32 am

Paul A July 29th, 2009 10:24 am SAID:
“Well…. At least my wife is finally proud to be an American.”

CHRIS SAYS: During most of the 8 years under Bush, I certainly wasn’t proud of being an American and when traveling internationally, told people that I was Canadian. So, sue me!

Normal

July 29th, 2009
10:33 am

BRS: You said: God hates divorce more than all other sexual sins.

Not true my friend, God doesn’t hate a thing, God gave you the right of free choice. God keeps score is all, when your life is done, God adds up the score. If you win, then well and good, but if you lose…well, soooo sorry.

This is why you can’t legislate Gods Word. If you do, you take away the choice factor. I think that would be a point against you…just sayin’

Chris Salzmann

July 29th, 2009
10:39 am

WBK July 29th, 2009 10:31 am SAID: Chris Salzmann:

I am sure if I search the archives long enought I will find a white guy who was treated the same way. But that does not make the news–does it.

CHRIS SAYS: You’re wrong because it does. I only brought this up to provide an example of police stupidity. So, instead of people being scandalized that any one (let alone a black man/woman) should dare to question the behavior of the police, they should look at the facts, the history and understand that the police reflects society with all its inherent bias. So yes, ALL people should inquire questionable police behavior and hold them ACCOUNTABLE for it. That is the RIGHT thing to do.

Chris Salzmann

July 29th, 2009
10:41 am

WBK July 29th, 2009 10:29 am SAID I personally think Professor Gates is a racist. And POTUS backed him up. Was Professor Gates behavior conducive to a Harvard Professor’s professionalism. As they say” Education doesnt cure stupid”!

CHRIS SAYS: Yes, that saying was made up by rednecks who obviously haven’t seen the inside of a university. Personally, the only racist I see is you, but its a free country.

Chris Salzmann

July 29th, 2009
10:46 am

WBK July 29th, 2009 10:21 am SAID: Elephant Whip: He did not SEIZE Gates in his home did he? Now where does the 4th apply?

CHRIS SAYS: This comment pretty much sums it up. Professor Gates was standing on his PROPERTY. Inside/outside does not matter. So, I guess Stupid needs an education. Hey, education does cure ignorance.

Davo

July 29th, 2009
10:47 am

Can we all come together and collectively extend our middle finger towards Gates in his fight against racism?

You don’t need to be a Harvard professor to know that cops are thugs; but I guess you do need to be one to make a stink about it.

pat

July 29th, 2009
10:51 am

“Well that depends on what your definition of “is” is.”

Paul A

July 29th, 2009
10:56 am

Dear Chris Salzmann —

And I’m proud to be an American where at least I know I’m free……….. La, la , la.

Too bad you didn’t remain overseas.

Justify anything. Silence all dissent. Intimidate any opposition. Democrats.

See you in 18 months….. Da nah nah nah – Hey, hey, hey – Goodbye.

Chris Salzmann

July 29th, 2009
10:59 am

WBK July 29th, 2009 10:29 am SAID: I personally think Professor Gates is a racist. And POTUS backed him up.

CHRIS SAYS: Yes, Professor Gates is such a racist that he married a white woman and had two mixed race daughters with her. Ah yes, for you WBK, ignorance is indeed bliss.

Aloha Gator

July 29th, 2009
11:03 am

Hypocrisy alert!

A heretofore “unknown” 2004 interview with Barack Obama by leftwing radio host Randi Rhodes has just emerged. And basically Obama is saying do as I say, not as I do. In this case he was referring to quickly forcing legislation through congress. As you can hear in an interview, uncovered by Naked Emporer News, the hypocrisy seems so massive that it is destined to go viral on the Web. It features Randi Rhodes back during her Air America days interviewing then senator-elect Barack Obama on November 22, 2004. And despite the fact that Randi is currently pretty well hidden from public view, you can be sure she will soon be talked about again because of her inadvertent exposure of incredible hypocrisy on the part of Obama. And what was the hypocrisy? His complaint that the Bush administration was rushing legislation through congress without giving the legislators time to read the bills or allowing for much debate.

Chris Salzmann

July 29th, 2009
11:05 am

Paul A July 29th, 2009 10:56 am SAID: Dear Chris Salzmann —

And I’m proud to be an American where at least I know I’m free……….. La, la , la.
CHRIS SAYS: Oh, so this is the only country on earth that’s free??? So, you’ve visited every other country to form that EDUCATED opinion? ROFLMAO. Wow, ignorance is such bliss.

Too bad you didn’t remain overseas.
CHRIS SAYS: Yeah, too bad for you.

Justify anything. Silence all dissent. Intimidate any opposition. Democrats.
CHRIS SAYS: This coming from the same people who called people UNPATRIOTIC for daring to question Bush’s stupidity??? LOL LOL LOL

See you in 18 months….. Da nah nah nah – Hey, hey, hey – Goodbye.
CHRIS SAYS: So how old are you? 10? Maybe its time for you to climb out of the sandbox and grow up.

Chris Salzmann

July 29th, 2009
11:10 am

Aloha Gator July 29th, 2009 11:03 am SAID: Hypocrisy alert!
And what was the hypocrisy? His complaint that the Bush administration was rushing legislation through congress without giving the legislators time to read the bills or allowing for much debate.

CHRIS SAYS: This legislation has been argued and is still being argued and haggled over over several months. I read the bill in question over 4-5 days. So, how much time do legislators need to read it? 4 years?

Aloha Gator

July 29th, 2009
11:13 am

I think this Chris Salzmann guy is a wacko !

His postings remind me of some kind of Clockwork Orange scene.

Obama is the Pied Piper of narcissists.

He really does love the sound of his own voice as long as the telepromter is working.

Aloha Gator

July 29th, 2009
11:20 am

During his speech at a National Press Club luncheon, House Judiciary Chairman John Conyers (D-Mich.), questioned the point of lawmakers reading the health care bill.

“I love these members, they get up and say, ‘Read the bill,’” said Conyers.

“What good is reading the bill if it’s a thousand pages and you don’t have two days and two lawyers to find out what it means after you read the bill?”

The Gator Says: Ask Chris Salzmann – He’s an expert. LOL, LOL, LOL

Elephant Whip

July 29th, 2009
11:23 am

WBK:

The 4th Amendment applies to property and the person. Law enforcement can’t search the property of a person or sieze anything they find there without a warrant or exigent circumstances, and law enforcement can’t seize a person, regardless of where that person is located, without a warrant or probable cause.

Paul A

July 29th, 2009
11:26 am

As I understand things, there was a black officer on the scene and a hispanic officer there also. They claim the arrest was 100% valid.

Why hasn’t anybody addressed their comments or slandered them?

Hmmmmmm.

Chris Salzmann

July 29th, 2009
11:28 am

Aloha Gator July 29th, 2009 11:13 am SAID: I think this Chris Salzmann guy is a wacko !
CHRIS SAYS: uhuh. Another informed opinion coming from the uninformed. Oooooh, you got me scared now. LOL

Aloha Gator July 29th, 2009 11:13 am SAID: Obama is the Pied Piper of narcissists.
CHRIS SAYS: Okay, so I guess that makes the majority of the country narcissists.

Matilda

July 29th, 2009
11:32 am

Wow, Mr. Barr. You managed to cram your concise recommendation for brevity into just nine paragraphs!

Chris Salzmann

July 29th, 2009
11:33 am

Paul A July 29th, 2009 11:26 am SAID: As I understand things, there was a black officer on the scene and a hispanic officer there also. They claim the arrest was 100% valid. Why hasn’t anybody addressed their comments or slandered them? Hmmmmmm.

CHRIS SAYS: Yes, they might claim that when most legal experts regarding the MA statute on Disorderly Conduct question the charge. Ever heard of the “Thin Blue Line”? You expect those officers to voice dissent and then expect to backed up when they’re under fire? Yeah, right.

Pedro

July 29th, 2009
11:43 am

I’m with Aloha Gator. Chris S, I too travel the world on business and never apologized for being an American. It never cost me any business and, indeed, added to my credibility. I read and tried to understand the bill. If you had 4 days to read the bill and all its nebulous references to section X and paragraph C and article Q, then you have way too much time on your hands. You either need a job or you’re already a liberal lawyer. Gotta run, I have a job colonizing the 3rd world…and terrorizing idiots.

Paul A

July 29th, 2009
11:53 am

excuses, excuses, excuses

Just like your leader, Oblama.
Blame somebody else. “It’s not my fault”. “It wasn’t me”. “This isn’t fair”.

You’ll believe or justify anything as long as it suits your cause won’t you Chris?
Besides, a cop can never be trusted to tell the truth. Especially three cops all from different races.

OBAMA SAYS: Don’t read it. Just pass it…. We’ll figure out who to steal the money from later.

Mrs. Norris

July 29th, 2009
11:56 am

There’s a little known law called “Pissing Off the Police”. It also goes by the name of “Disorderly Conduct”. Believe me, it has nothing to do with the color of your skin. Bob is absolutely correct in stating that is the real issue we should be concerned about. While we argue over the motivations of the police, the government continues to grow and our rights continue to shrinks.

Pennsylvanian

July 29th, 2009
12:06 pm

Disorderly conduct was the best the cops could do since being a racist jerk is not against the law.

clyde

July 29th, 2009
12:16 pm

There are two racists in the never ending saga of the cop,the professor and the President and neither of them are white.

Jefferson

July 29th, 2009
12:23 pm

Bob, you can do better. If you shake a coke before opening it, it will spew. (works with infants also, just remember to hand them back to the designated parent of the day)

WBK

July 29th, 2009
12:28 pm

Mrs. Norris

July 29th, 2009
11:56 am
Well stated…
Chris Salzmann

July 29th, 2009
11:33 am
Marring a white woman does not eliminate racism from a person as we can see in the Professor. The university wont write him up for misconduct the reflects on the University either because of its fear of racism. Racism exists more than ever in the Black communities and now they are acting upon it. That is against the law too…but who is going to punish those poor blacks for racism.

Raider

July 29th, 2009
12:47 pm

You guys ever seen Robert Gibbs talk. GOOD LORD! The man is an idiot! And this is our White House Press Secretary. Every time I watch him he does not know one thing, its always, “I’ll have to get back with you on that” If there ever was a person that should be FIRED from his job, its Robert Gibbs!

The REAL GodHatesTrash, Superstar

July 29th, 2009
12:55 pm

I was reading my Mencken last night. He talks about the base, common, mean politics of the South in the 1920s, which if anything, have actually gotten worse. He speaks of common white southerner’s “fierce jealousy of the emerging black man as the cornerstone of all their public thinking.”

Alas, true then, true today, expanded to women and to other minority groups.

Witness base little scum-of-the-earth creatures like Jeff Sessions, Lindsey Graham, John Cornyn, and Tom Coburn wailing and moaning because Sotamayor is Hispanic and better educated and better qualified than they are for high office.

Face it, folks. Obama is smarter, better-looking, better educated, better with other people, and cleaner than 99.99% of his fellow Americans, and 99.9999999999999% of you southerners. Your jealousy will not change that. Your outspoken whiny bigotry will not change that either, it only serves to make you look even more stupid.

Here is what you can do to change it. Go back to school and this time, apply yourself. Get a decent education. Bathe every day. Dress like you care. Be optimistic, instead of a perpetual whiner.

Yes, you’ll still be ugly, but a little personal charm will ease your difficulties, less whining will make it easier to be around you, and your whole outlook on life will improve.

Face it. Obama, Sotamayor, et. al. got to where they are by being hard-working, optimistic Americans.

Hard work. Optimism.

Good luck with that!

Chris Salzmann

July 29th, 2009
1:00 pm

WBK July 29th, 2009 12:28 pm SAID: Marring a white woman does not eliminate racism from a person as we can see in the Professor.

CHRIS SAYS: “Marrying” a white woman does not eliminate racism on the part of the professor??? No that’s funny. Oh, I get it, what you are implying is that he married a white woman to show up the white man, right??? Who’s the “We”? You mean the racists like you? Must be….

WBK July 29th, 2009 12:28 pm SAID: The university wont write him up for misconduct the reflects on the University either because of its fear of racism.
CHRIS SAYS: The university should write him up for protesting the police’s conduct on his own property even when legal experts in MA say that it was the police’s conduct that is in question? LMAO. BTW, who was the PUBLIC SERVANT here paid by taxpayer dollars? The professor or the police? What’s that they say about “Protect & Serve”?

WBK July 29th, 2009 12:28 pm SAID: Racism exists more than ever in the Black communities and now they are acting upon it. That is against the law too…but who is going to punish those poor blacks for racism.
CHRIS SAYS: Yes, racism exists in every community. But what are blacks doing here that’s racist and against the law IN THIS CASE? What RACISM are they acting upon in this CASE? Oh, I guess, in your opinion, they should know their ” rightful place”, right? Dude, you just keep on digging that hole because YOU are the one who’s being exposed here as the one having a problem with race.

The REAL GodHatesTrash, Superstar

July 29th, 2009
1:10 pm

Yes, Chris, what we see happening here is the perception that Obama has a high opinion of himself, an ‘uppityness’ if you will, that unfortunately reminds many white folks of their low opinions of themselves.

Obama does, indeed, have a lot to be proud of himself for. Most of these white folks – the poor poor pitiful me crowd, the perpetual victims – complaining do not, so perhaps their self-loathing is deserved, but it is not fair or productive for them to hate on Obama for using the gifts that God have him.

Obama himself seems to me to be fairly grateful and humble, considering his considerable gifted-ness.

Paul A

July 29th, 2009
1:25 pm

Obama – Hard Work?

Are you kidding? What work? What job?

Community organizer? huh????

Giftedness?????????

OH MAN!

TRASHY – YOU’RE NUTS!

Paul A

July 29th, 2009
1:29 pm

“that unfortunately reminds many white folks of their low opinions of themselves.”

TRASHY IS THE RACIST!

Paul A

July 29th, 2009
1:29 pm

FRIES ARE READY TRASH MAN!

AFTER THAT… go get a mop!

whatfor

July 29th, 2009
1:36 pm

Hey Chris Salzmann – Why not just save us the trouble and just move to Canada – since you were too ashamed to be an American

CookMyOwnFries

July 29th, 2009
1:38 pm

Apparently the Prez has been getting a 6-month head start on Mr. Gates and Officer Crowley. Isn’t the Presidency a 24/7/365 job? If the rest of us were drinking on the job, we would get fired.
The man has even been photographed drinking a beer at the All-Star game.

The REAL GodHatesTrash, Superstar

July 29th, 2009
1:46 pm

I see a touched a nerve of my friend Paul A.’s, still another perpetual victim crying racism.

Poor poor little man!

Blue

July 29th, 2009
1:47 pm

So from most of liberal rants here, I get this; if I choose to rob someone’s house, and then the police happen to show up and I INSIST that I am the owner of the house, it is my house and get verbally hostile, the police should just take my word for it and let me go in the house by myself to get my I.D.? COOL!!!

Blue

July 29th, 2009
1:48 pm

Paul A 11:26am; please don’t confuse any of these people with the facts. Thanks!

Aloha Gator

July 29th, 2009
1:50 pm

NYC is buying one way tickets for the homeless to leave town.

Let’s start a collection plate for Chris Salzmann and Trashy. We can send them to Iran, North Korea, Cuba or Venezuela.

Chris has nothing to fear – He’s ashamed of his country. As for Trashy, he can put his “hard work” skills to use in a labor camp.

I”ll start with $50.

Hey, hey, hey – Goodbye !

Road Scholar

July 29th, 2009
1:55 pm

Paul A: So Bush worked so hard, because he told us doing his job was HHHHHaaaarrrrddd ! Maybe he should have been watching Cheney! Or better yet, not being on vacation so much himself (remember all the trips to the Texas ranch!)

Cook MOF: Are you a Georgia graduate? (”Do you want fries with that?”)
Grow up! Americans are so hung up over nudity and alcohol! Italians drink wine at lunch (let alone dinner), even though they work the rest of the day…after a short break. I grew up around alcohol, having drunk wine at 6 yrs old (watered down with ginger ale). I can take or leave alcohol, while the rest of you, esp the southern rednecks, can’t stop at one or two beers!

Obama as well as any other president or elected official should take time to sit back and socialize…with all types of people…which is why you conservatives generalize about independants and demos. Talk to someone different than you in a non-business setting…You may learn something if you truley listen.

Hillbilly Deluxe

July 29th, 2009
1:55 pm

Bob, you’ve done your fair share of bloviating over the years yourself.

Road Scholar

July 29th, 2009
1:59 pm

Blue, after you show an ID and proof of residence, the police should leave immediately. While the prof was not right about ranting (although he had just arrived from China-I bet you’d be tired also), the whole issue could have been avoided if the police acted on why they were there to begin with and then left.

WBK

July 29th, 2009
2:00 pm

Chris Salzmann

July 29th, 2009
1:00 pm

Are you trying to shoot me down like your ilk is doing to Palin. Well, you called me a redneck. I call that racist. That offends me! Just like IF I used the “N” word toward you.

I am talking about a racist Professor who will not be admonished for his behavior OUTSIDE his home. You do not have private property rights anymore because you liberals have already taken that away. The 4th ammendment does NOT apply. The professor (if you want to call someone like that a professor) should have had a little more self discipline.

The “officer of the law” was sent there for a legal purpose. Oh well, it does not matter. Who cares.

CookMyOwnFries

July 29th, 2009
2:12 pm

Road Scholar -
Yes, I went to UGA. You’re right about Italy. That country is a HUGE economic powerhouse. TRULY I have underestimated the President’s ability to socialize. I think your folks didn’t water your wine down that much.TRULY….

Tom

July 29th, 2009
2:26 pm

Mr. Barr’s employment of the term “useage” in Paragraph 3 makes me wonder about his skills at hitting the spell-check tab.

dgroy

July 29th, 2009
2:54 pm

Thank you, Bob Barr, a Great American for teaching me a new word (oblivation). The reason BHO talks like he does is, he doesn’t know enough about the subject that he is trying to answer questions about. In other words, he’s trying to Bulls*** his way through it. This might work for a little while but it’ll catch up with him. Most people aren’t stupid.

The REAL GodHatesTrash, Superstar

July 29th, 2009
3:25 pm

Now look, WBK. Redneck is not a race. You are a Caucasian, I am a Caucasian.

You are a redneck, I am not.

People aren’t prejudiced against rednecks because they are white, they are prejudiced against them because they are ignorant and stupid, and perversely proud of it.

The REAL GodHatesTrash, Superstar

July 29th, 2009
3:31 pm

Chris, I have never met an African-American or black African of any sort named “Salzmann”, so why are some of our redneck friends calling you the n-word?

While are redneck morbidly obsessed with race, it seems they are also hopelessly confused…

But that’s the continuing problem with being willfully ignorant and congenitally stupid.

Crazy Joe

July 29th, 2009
3:37 pm

Oh wow, we have the elite minds of the GOP on this blog!!! Here’s such notable minds as wbk, (which stands for why billy “kant” read), Frycooker, (a UGA grad and a fine scholarly type. He graduated with a C average and his major was “domestic science” or “short order cook”), I see AlohaGator who chimed in with his thoughts, (limited though they are) and the grand dame of all GOP think talks, George, (formerly found in the bathroom at the Atlanta Airport trying to pick up a “date”).
You guys ROCK!!! Just because you’re deaf, dumb and blind; doesn’t mean that you’re wrong!! It just means that you’re deaf, dumb and blind!!! Oh and stupid.

they used to call me Crazy Joe but now they callme the batman!

July 29th, 2009
3:40 pm

Bob Barr:

Married anymore high schoolers lately? Someone said that you’d even start dating s*p*e*r*m as long as it could prove that it was young and female.

gatorman770

July 29th, 2009
3:45 pm

Being unemployed since December 2008, I really want to see those 3 million new jobs we were promised. Of course I guess I won’t see any of those jobs till the 3 million more lost jobs since January are replaced.
I also been wondering which group of 3 million new jobs all the new Obuma administration Czars will go against. Does anyone know?

CookMyOwnFries

July 29th, 2009
4:52 pm

Crazy Joe –
You are MY he-ro. I just wish I could come up with such wonderful put-downs as you. Just so you know, sperm is neither male nor female. It only has one sex chromosome(X or Y), not two (XX or XY). I learned this in my burger-flipping class.
Maybe you could use your superior wisdom to explain what Obama has done that has actually helped this country.

CookMyOwnFries

July 29th, 2009
4:55 pm

Wait! I think I got it. Obama is trying to solve unemployment by making everybody a “Czar”. I just got offered the position of “Fry Cooking Czar.” See you scholars in Washington!

Elephant Whip

July 29th, 2009
5:05 pm

WBK:

See above comments. And read the 4th Amendment. It applies to any arrest.

Were you hoping your ignorant comment would be hidden down here after such a long chat?

Republicrat_Slave

July 29th, 2009
5:42 pm

“SS, DD”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eOnYnIDX0Eg

meet “the new boss” – same as the old boss…

All I'm Saying Is...

July 29th, 2009
5:51 pm

“…obscures the real problems the Cambridge incident brought to light – questions involving the sanctity of one’s own home; the proper basis for a police search and arrest; the burden of proving one is who one says they are in their own home.”

I agree with you wholeheartedly, Bob, that Gates (understandable) reaction and the President’s subsequent involvement took the spotlight off of the real issues here which are as you have outlined. I for one can’t wait for your take on this.

All I'm Saying Is...

July 29th, 2009
5:54 pm

If asked (and I keep my behavior in check no matter whether I’m right or how I feel) and I provide proof that I am the legal resident, then the police presence at my home should end. They should not have the right to continue to search the premises and, furthermore, should not have the right to force me to step outside. These are the things that warrant much additional discussion.

Chris Salzmann

July 29th, 2009
6:12 pm

whatfor July 29th, 2009 1:36 pm SAID: Hey Chris Salzmann – Why not just save us the trouble and just move to Canada – since you were too ashamed to be an American

CHRIS SAYS” Not ashamed anymore. Rather proud of the fact now. But then if I left, who would show the mentally challenged here how the better half think?

Chris Salzmann

July 29th, 2009
6:33 pm

WBK July 29th, 2009 2:00 pm SAID: Are you trying to shoot me down like your ilk is doing to Palin. Well, you called me a redneck. I call that racist. That offends me! Just like IF I used the “N” word toward you.

CHRIS SAYS: You obviously aren’t that smart if you’re comparing yourself to Sarah Palin. Now even I wouldn’t stoop THAT LOW!!! LOL, If only all of us could be enlightened enough to aspire to her great intellect!!! Called you a Redneck??? LOL, I called you a racist, dude!!! Funny that you consider “redneck” a worse insult. Tells me how that little mind of your works. You pretty much called Professor Gates the “N” word so calling me that wouldn’t be a stretch……though it would leave people confused since I’m of good German stock. But go ahead, as Clint Eastwood said” Make my day”!!!!

WBK July 29th, 2009 2:00 pm SAID:I am talking about a racist Professor who will not be admonished for his behavior OUTSIDE his home. You do not have private property rights anymore because you liberals have already taken that away. The 4th ammendment does NOT apply. The professor (if you want to call someone like that a professor) should have had a little more self discipline.

CHRIS SAID: For behavior OUTSIDE his home? You mean on his PROPERTY outside his RESIDENCE? Don’t know which state you live in but we STILL HAVE private property rights. LOL, the Professor should have had more self-discipline? On his own property? ROFLMAO. Hey guys, no more wearing tacky shirts or wife beaters on your OWN PROPERTY!!! Ever heard the saying about your home being your castle? But then you will realize that once you move out of your Mom’s house.

WBK July 29th, 2009 2:00 pm SAID:The “officer of the law” was sent there for a legal purpose. Oh well, it does not matter. Who cares.

CHRIS SAYS: Yeah, the cop was sent for a legal purpose and once he identified the legal resident, he should have backed off. Now, hopefully, the Professor sues the local cops and lets the courts sort it out the LEGAL way.

Stumpy

July 30th, 2009
12:14 am

CHRIS SAYS” Not ashamed anymore. Rather proud of the fact now. But then if I left, who would show the mentally challenged here how the better half think?

Chris, are you only proud of your country when you like the President? I have never called myself Canadian because I was ashamed of what I dislike about my country. I do like Canada though, great beer. But, even when Clinton was our President and I was ashamed of him, I was still proud to be American.

However, you are the first Liberal I’ve seen (in a long time) that could actually admit when they were wrong about something. I’m intrigued. It means you’re a thinking human and there’s a chance for dialog. I have had to admit I was wrong on ‘Huffington Post’, and believe me, I got roasted severely. Perhaps we can have lively, actual debates and not just rhetoric spewing. I look forward to it.

Chris Salzmann

July 30th, 2009
1:15 am

Stumpy July 30th, 2009 12:14 am SAID: Chris, are you only proud of your country when you like the President? I have never called myself Canadian because I was ashamed of what I dislike about my country. I do like Canada though, great beer. But, even when Clinton was our President and I was ashamed of him, I was still proud to be American.

CHRIS SAYS: I wouldn’t call myself Canadian either, eh? To say you love everything about a country or even a person ALL THE TIME without any misgivings or reservations whatsoever is naive idealism. I have been called idealistic many times but rarely naive.

Stumpy July 30th, 2009 12:14 am SAID: However, you are the first Liberal I’ve seen (in a long time) that could actually admit when they were wrong about something. I’m intrigued. It means you’re a thinking human and there’s a chance for dialog. I have had to admit I was wrong on ‘Huffington Post’, and believe me, I got roasted severely. Perhaps we can have lively, actual debates and not just rhetoric spewing. I look forward to it.

CHRIS SAYS: Actually, this may surprise you but I consider myself an independent. Many left wing talk radio and news shows turn me off as much as the ones from the right. I rarely find myself watching MSNBC, CNN or FOX because I find them pandering to an ignorant and uninformed audience. I voted for Bush Sr. in 92 (always liked Papa Bush), for Clinton in 96(other choice was pathetic Dole), for Bush in 2000 (couldn’t stand Gore), for Kerry in 04(would have voted for the dog catcher if he/she ran against Bush at this point) and Obama in 08(Sarah Palin omfg/what was McCain thinking?). As you can see, not the typical liberal voting record. I may have voted for Obama but I also disagree with a lot of his decisions.

Sorry for the let down but not what you were expecting, eh? :-)

Steve

July 30th, 2009
7:33 am

The greatest thing Obama will ever do for this country is fade into the sunset when his time as president is over. I hope to hear as little from Obama when his day in the spotlight is over as I hope to hear from Bush II now that his is over. By the end of his eight years at the helm I was tired of Bush II but never have I thought of Obama as the answer. If Obama is the answer, we asked the wrong questions.

StJ

July 30th, 2009
10:53 am

We’re asking for clear, fact-based, concise answers from politicians?! Seriously. It’ll never happen…especially from the current set. There’s too much hidden fine print to conceal from the public…so the spin will continue unabated. So much for “transparency”.

Pennsylvanian

July 30th, 2009
12:05 pm

Pennsylvanian

July 30th, 2009
12:06 pm

Or, try this -
Who is the dumbest; Obama for inviting Crowley and Gates for beer in a pathetic attempt to spin his gaffe, or Crowley and Gates for accepting?

david wayne osedach

July 30th, 2009
2:33 pm

Obama MAKES SURE that he is on national television each and every day. His ego is getting bigger than God’s. Heaven forbids – he starts to think that he is in fact God.