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		<title>By: Lunchconclude</title>
		<link>http://blogs.ajc.com/bob-barr-blog/2009/07/27/judge-throws-down-water-gauntlet/comment-page-2/#comment-7310</link>
		<dc:creator>Lunchconclude</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Dec 2009 23:46:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Raise Reasonable,special ought conference economic think high attract smile claim rich argue wife examine weak surprise measure quick thin safety potential alone exist paper civil feel special publication expense wave both army ground share passage increase contrast flow no paint right paint first generation everything united client arise return society hair popular record aye why action popular equal variety post about positive none quick music protect round master finger roof exactly ancient have we above north criterion club vision best free interesting cabinet north nor she bedroom steal combination sort</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Raise Reasonable,special ought conference economic think high attract smile claim rich argue wife examine weak surprise measure quick thin safety potential alone exist paper civil feel special publication expense wave both army ground share passage increase contrast flow no paint right paint first generation everything united client arise return society hair popular record aye why action popular equal variety post about positive none quick music protect round master finger roof exactly ancient have we above north criterion club vision best free interesting cabinet north nor she bedroom steal combination sort</p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
		<link>http://blogs.ajc.com/bob-barr-blog/2009/07/27/judge-throws-down-water-gauntlet/comment-page-2/#comment-3591</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Aug 2009 17:21:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Booger,
2nd to last paragraph: &quot;...allow citizens of the greater Atlanta area to use water from the reservoir they paid for.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Booger,<br />
2nd to last paragraph: &#8220;&#8230;allow citizens of the greater Atlanta area to use water from the reservoir they paid for.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Ga-Guy</title>
		<link>http://blogs.ajc.com/bob-barr-blog/2009/07/27/judge-throws-down-water-gauntlet/comment-page-2/#comment-3434</link>
		<dc:creator>Ga-Guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2009 14:52:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Uhm...let&#039;s see how this works...a Federal judge makes a ruling that follows the written law on the books, without any &quot;empathy&quot; or &quot;legislating from the bench.&quot;  Isn&#039;t that what Mr. Barr and other conservatives have been asking for from judges?  I guess it works differently if the &quot;empathy&quot; is on the other foot.

All that said, Mr. Barr&#039;s point about tri-state water legislation he sponsored many years ago is a good one.  What have our elected officials been doing all that time?  The only way this will be solved is through negotiation among the stakeholders.  Otherwise, you&#039;re inviting the Feds to make the decision.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Uhm&#8230;let&#8217;s see how this works&#8230;a Federal judge makes a ruling that follows the written law on the books, without any &#8220;empathy&#8221; or &#8220;legislating from the bench.&#8221;  Isn&#8217;t that what Mr. Barr and other conservatives have been asking for from judges?  I guess it works differently if the &#8220;empathy&#8221; is on the other foot.</p>
<p>All that said, Mr. Barr&#8217;s point about tri-state water legislation he sponsored many years ago is a good one.  What have our elected officials been doing all that time?  The only way this will be solved is through negotiation among the stakeholders.  Otherwise, you&#8217;re inviting the Feds to make the decision.</p>
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		<title>By: Lake lanier lots &#124; Lakefront Properties and Land</title>
		<link>http://blogs.ajc.com/bob-barr-blog/2009/07/27/judge-throws-down-water-gauntlet/comment-page-2/#comment-3355</link>
		<dc:creator>Lake lanier lots &#124; Lakefront Properties and Land</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2009 16:02:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Judge throws down water gauntlet &#124; The Barr CodeOn June 17, a federal judge from Minnesota - Paul Magnuson - ordered the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers to stop permitting the Atlanta area to draw water from Lake Lanier needed to meet the needs of the area&#8217;s six million residents. Let&#8217;s take a moment to let that sink in. &#8230;.. These builders all went before our various councils and committees and asked to have lots rezoned or redrawn for their apartment complexes, condominiums, strip houses, McMansions, and strip malls. &#8230;&#160;&#160;read more&#8230; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Judge throws down water gauntlet | The Barr CodeOn June 17, a federal judge from Minnesota &#8211; Paul Magnuson &#8211; ordered the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers to stop permitting the Atlanta area to draw water from Lake Lanier needed to meet the needs of the area&#8217;s six million residents. Let&#8217;s take a moment to let that sink in. &#8230;.. These builders all went before our various councils and committees and asked to have lots rezoned or redrawn for their apartment complexes, condominiums, strip houses, McMansions, and strip malls. &#8230;&nbsp;&nbsp;read more&#8230; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: david wayne osedach</title>
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		<dc:creator>david wayne osedach</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2009 01:23:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Clean water is getting scarcer, and scarcer all across the country.  It is something we will be paying a lot more for in the next decade and also conserving it (a lot more.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Clean water is getting scarcer, and scarcer all across the country.  It is something we will be paying a lot more for in the next decade and also conserving it (a lot more.)</p>
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		<title>By: newkid</title>
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		<dc:creator>newkid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2009 22:30:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One can&#039;t always realistically expect to visit blogs and find clear, cogent, and correct arguments in defense of a certain perspective, but Dr. R has done a fine job in this instance.  

There will be only long-term losers - in each of the states involved - if we continue to pursue resolution of this matter following Mr. Barr&#039;s counsel.  Unfortunately, it&#039;s the course our &#039;leaders&#039; appear to have adopted.  If the United States and China can agree to cooperate to resolve issues far, far broader than a silly water dispute, Georgia, Florida, and Alabama could certainly (with proper leadership) agree to cooperate to address interstate issues (including water) that, left unresolved, are certain to foreclose major future economic development opportunities for the ENTIRE interconnected economic region.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One can&#8217;t always realistically expect to visit blogs and find clear, cogent, and correct arguments in defense of a certain perspective, but Dr. R has done a fine job in this instance.  </p>
<p>There will be only long-term losers &#8211; in each of the states involved &#8211; if we continue to pursue resolution of this matter following Mr. Barr&#8217;s counsel.  Unfortunately, it&#8217;s the course our &#8216;leaders&#8217; appear to have adopted.  If the United States and China can agree to cooperate to resolve issues far, far broader than a silly water dispute, Georgia, Florida, and Alabama could certainly (with proper leadership) agree to cooperate to address interstate issues (including water) that, left unresolved, are certain to foreclose major future economic development opportunities for the ENTIRE interconnected economic region.</p>
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		<title>By: Mr. KnowitAll</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mr. KnowitAll</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2009 21:18:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just for principle and common sense, somebody ought to kick this judge&#039;s a$$ just for the laughs. 

Look, folks.  The original purpose for building the dams--ALL OF THEM---along the Chattahoochee was to have water available to ensure water was deep enough for barge traffic.  Of course, being a government idea---it was a JOKE and the intent was a failure (no!  say it ain&#039;t so!). 

Another grand and glorious government idea called the Endangered Species Act that superseded ALL other legislation.  So, if there were a choice between helping people and some waste of a species like sturgeon and some freshwater clams---humans loose. The environmental whackos believed humans should starve so these slugs could survive.  The question I have always asked is---what would the sturgeon and clams do if we weren&#039;t here to save them?  

Florida mines HUGE amounts of phosphates, exports and taxes it, and makes a fortune.  How is water any different.  If this water is collected in Georgia, and is a commodity with value, why shouldn;t Florida and Alabama PAY FOR IT? Now you have some dip$hit</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just for principle and common sense, somebody ought to kick this judge&#8217;s a$$ just for the laughs. </p>
<p>Look, folks.  The original purpose for building the dams&#8211;ALL OF THEM&#8212;along the Chattahoochee was to have water available to ensure water was deep enough for barge traffic.  Of course, being a government idea&#8212;it was a JOKE and the intent was a failure (no!  say it ain&#8217;t so!). </p>
<p>Another grand and glorious government idea called the Endangered Species Act that superseded ALL other legislation.  So, if there were a choice between helping people and some waste of a species like sturgeon and some freshwater clams&#8212;humans loose. The environmental whackos believed humans should starve so these slugs could survive.  The question I have always asked is&#8212;what would the sturgeon and clams do if we weren&#8217;t here to save them?  </p>
<p>Florida mines HUGE amounts of phosphates, exports and taxes it, and makes a fortune.  How is water any different.  If this water is collected in Georgia, and is a commodity with value, why shouldn;t Florida and Alabama PAY FOR IT? Now you have some dip$hit</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2009 20:36:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We should pray for rain and capture it from the sky in giant plastic sheeting before it hits the lake.  Florida can have all the water from the headwaters. And I&#039;m moving to Savannah.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We should pray for rain and capture it from the sky in giant plastic sheeting before it hits the lake.  Florida can have all the water from the headwaters. And I&#8217;m moving to Savannah.</p>
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		<title>By: Marc</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2009 20:24:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The solution is simple but we may not have the time. A new resevoir needs to be built up stream and for the primary use of drinking water. This needs to be statred today. No 5 yr studies as we have only 3 yrs if in the worse case no aggrement can be reached. On the 150th aniversery of the battle of Atlanta, we may be on the verge of the next civil war and it will be over water. This is also a case of Ga needing to step up and tell the Feds it will not be dictated how we run our state. For too long states rights have been held hostage by Federal Funding. It is time for GA. to step up and fight for its rights. 4 million people with out water will not be exceptable and political carriers will be made and others burnt to the ground. The people of the Atlanta area and all of Ga. need to speak loadly about this issue. No other isssue will have a greater impact on this state in the next 5 yrs. If we put our head in the sand, we will come out high and dry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The solution is simple but we may not have the time. A new resevoir needs to be built up stream and for the primary use of drinking water. This needs to be statred today. No 5 yr studies as we have only 3 yrs if in the worse case no aggrement can be reached. On the 150th aniversery of the battle of Atlanta, we may be on the verge of the next civil war and it will be over water. This is also a case of Ga needing to step up and tell the Feds it will not be dictated how we run our state. For too long states rights have been held hostage by Federal Funding. It is time for GA. to step up and fight for its rights. 4 million people with out water will not be exceptable and political carriers will be made and others burnt to the ground. The people of the Atlanta area and all of Ga. need to speak loadly about this issue. No other isssue will have a greater impact on this state in the next 5 yrs. If we put our head in the sand, we will come out high and dry.</p>
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		<title>By: Spoke</title>
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		<dc:creator>Spoke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2009 20:18:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seems to me that Atlanta&#039;s northern suburbs need to suck it up and build some sewer systems, so that instead of taking water out of the lake and dumping it into septic tanks, the water can be treated and returned to the Chattahoochee river system. What? It will be expensive? Because the suburbs were sprawled randomly across our northern counties without thought of tying them together with a sewer system? Guess y&#039;all should have thought of that earlier.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seems to me that Atlanta&#8217;s northern suburbs need to suck it up and build some sewer systems, so that instead of taking water out of the lake and dumping it into septic tanks, the water can be treated and returned to the Chattahoochee river system. What? It will be expensive? Because the suburbs were sprawled randomly across our northern counties without thought of tying them together with a sewer system? Guess y&#8217;all should have thought of that earlier.</p>
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