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	<title>Comments on: NyQuil Survives Nanny State Police, For Now</title>
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		<title>By: Michael H. Smith</title>
		<link>http://blogs.ajc.com/bob-barr-blog/2009/07/01/nyquil-survives-nanny-state-police-for-now/comment-page-1/#comment-2590</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael H. Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 19:32:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;As for our safety, the FDA must be dismantled and a system of private certification organizations be allowed to fill its place.&lt;/em&gt;

If drug manufactures were blind to this system of private certification organizations so they could never know exactly which private company is doing the testing of their particular drug until after the results were made known that would unquestionably be the best possible remedy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>As for our safety, the FDA must be dismantled and a system of private certification organizations be allowed to fill its place.</em></p>
<p>If drug manufactures were blind to this system of private certification organizations so they could never know exactly which private company is doing the testing of their particular drug until after the results were made known that would unquestionably be the best possible remedy.</p>
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		<title>By: David S</title>
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		<dc:creator>David S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 14:42:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If anything, people should not be buying Nyquil because Proctor and Gamble continues to kill nearly 50,000 innocent animals every year in unnecessary and unrequired &quot;safety&quot; tests.  These tests in many cases are not required by the FDA or in most cases, there are fully equivalent non-animal tests that can identify safety concerns.

While virtually all of their competitors have responded to public pressure and ongoing boycotts of their products, the murderers at P&amp;G seem to take great pride in all of the unnecessary animal deaths that they cause.

Only through the public exercising their most powerful perogative - their consumer choice, will P&amp;G ever get the message that killing animals for no reason is wrong.

As for our safety, the FDA must be dismantled and a system of private certification organizations be allowed to fill its place.  Nobody ever questions the actions of UL, TUV, CSA, or Consumer Reports, but the public gets completely reliable safety assurance and quality reporting from them without the force and incompetence that accompany all government oversight agencies.

Tens of thousands die every year because critical drugs are kept off the market, while thousands of others die from products that were given &quot;approval&quot; likely due more to political reasons than actual data supporting safety.

Believing that utopia comes with every government intervention should be cleary seen by now to be a false and reckless belief.  The free market may also not be utopia, but the competition, threat of liability, and the inherent freedom to choose other products will provide a far greater measure of safety than the current politically manipulated system of big business protectionism and fundamental lack of choice and competition.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If anything, people should not be buying Nyquil because Proctor and Gamble continues to kill nearly 50,000 innocent animals every year in unnecessary and unrequired &#8220;safety&#8221; tests.  These tests in many cases are not required by the FDA or in most cases, there are fully equivalent non-animal tests that can identify safety concerns.</p>
<p>While virtually all of their competitors have responded to public pressure and ongoing boycotts of their products, the murderers at P&amp;G seem to take great pride in all of the unnecessary animal deaths that they cause.</p>
<p>Only through the public exercising their most powerful perogative &#8211; their consumer choice, will P&amp;G ever get the message that killing animals for no reason is wrong.</p>
<p>As for our safety, the FDA must be dismantled and a system of private certification organizations be allowed to fill its place.  Nobody ever questions the actions of UL, TUV, CSA, or Consumer Reports, but the public gets completely reliable safety assurance and quality reporting from them without the force and incompetence that accompany all government oversight agencies.</p>
<p>Tens of thousands die every year because critical drugs are kept off the market, while thousands of others die from products that were given &#8220;approval&#8221; likely due more to political reasons than actual data supporting safety.</p>
<p>Believing that utopia comes with every government intervention should be cleary seen by now to be a false and reckless belief.  The free market may also not be utopia, but the competition, threat of liability, and the inherent freedom to choose other products will provide a far greater measure of safety than the current politically manipulated system of big business protectionism and fundamental lack of choice and competition.</p>
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		<title>By: Steynian 370 &#171; Free Canuckistan!</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steynian 370 &#171; Free Canuckistan!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 23:53:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] OVERTHECOUNTER COPS? NyQuil Survives Nanny State Police, For Now &#8230;. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] OVERTHECOUNTER COPS? NyQuil Survives Nanny State Police, For Now &#8230;. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Diorist</title>
		<link>http://blogs.ajc.com/bob-barr-blog/2009/07/01/nyquil-survives-nanny-state-police-for-now/comment-page-1/#comment-2581</link>
		<dc:creator>Diorist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 17:34:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s probably just as well. Nyquil has been a sad shadow shadow of its former self since the &#039;90s. I don&#039;t know what they did to it, but the sniffling-sneezing-coughing-aching-why-did-i-wake-up-on-the-kitchen-floor medicine is definitely no more. I&#039;m just glad I&#039;m old enough to remember it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s probably just as well. Nyquil has been a sad shadow shadow of its former self since the &#8217;90s. I don&#8217;t know what they did to it, but the sniffling-sneezing-coughing-aching-why-did-i-wake-up-on-the-kitchen-floor medicine is definitely no more. I&#8217;m just glad I&#8217;m old enough to remember it.</p>
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		<title>By: Happy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Happy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 18:21:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In celebration of our nations birthday...on my way home I will visit the local grocery store, purchase 5 bottles of Nyquil, drink them all and all weekend party like its 1999!!!

Yea baby...lets abuse some drugs!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In celebration of our nations birthday&#8230;on my way home I will visit the local grocery store, purchase 5 bottles of Nyquil, drink them all and all weekend party like its 1999!!!</p>
<p>Yea baby&#8230;lets abuse some drugs!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 14:27:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jen claims that in a free market that the drug companies would be fine with a 5% mortality rate.  Tell that to J&amp;J during the 1982 Tylenol tampering case.  They lost a huge amount of marketshare because 7 people died and the public thought it might be related to their product.  Drug companies pay attention to drug mortality, just as the public does.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jen claims that in a free market that the drug companies would be fine with a 5% mortality rate.  Tell that to J&amp;J during the 1982 Tylenol tampering case.  They lost a huge amount of marketshare because 7 people died and the public thought it might be related to their product.  Drug companies pay attention to drug mortality, just as the public does.</p>
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		<title>By: Esther Taylor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Esther Taylor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 04:18:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let&#039;s see: Jen has called Barr a liar. Not just mistaken, but a liar. She did so based on a claim that seem to have been refuted. It seems to me that she should either back up her original claim or do the honorable thing and apologize.

...

I wonder what the FDA recommends as the safe limit for holding one&#039;s breath.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s see: Jen has called Barr a liar. Not just mistaken, but a liar. She did so based on a claim that seem to have been refuted. It seems to me that she should either back up her original claim or do the honorable thing and apologize.</p>
<p>&#8230;</p>
<p>I wonder what the FDA recommends as the safe limit for holding one&#8217;s breath.</p>
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		<title>By: links for 2009-07-01</title>
		<link>http://blogs.ajc.com/bob-barr-blog/2009/07/01/nyquil-survives-nanny-state-police-for-now/comment-page-1/#comment-2562</link>
		<dc:creator>links for 2009-07-01</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 02:00:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] NyQuil Survives Nanny State Police, For Now In typical nanny-state fashion, the FDA-empaneled experts were voting on whether the fact that .0000015 percent of the consuming public suffered fatal liver failure possibly related to acetaminophen overdoses, should justify inconveniencing the entire population of Americans that use popular and effective cold medicines. (tags: medicine government politics idiocy)      Posted in del.icio.us                   &#171; links for 2009-06-27 [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] NyQuil Survives Nanny State Police, For Now In typical nanny-state fashion, the FDA-empaneled experts were voting on whether the fact that .0000015 percent of the consuming public suffered fatal liver failure possibly related to acetaminophen overdoses, should justify inconveniencing the entire population of Americans that use popular and effective cold medicines. (tags: medicine government politics idiocy)      Posted in del.icio.us                   &laquo; links for 2009-06-27 [...]</p>
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		<title>By: GOP is gone</title>
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		<dc:creator>GOP is gone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 23:56:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem lies with the public not reading labels. Many people combine medications which all have acetaminophen without their knowledge. They take Nyquil without realizing it contains tylenol, and then take tylenol thinking they have “aches” and it will help. A campaign to make the consumer more knowledgeable would probably suffice. By the way Vicodan contains extra strength tylenol, 500mg per tablet, where Percocet contains regular strength tylenol, 350mg per tablet. I have often found that patients who take ½ tablet of say Percocet or Vicodan along with a plain tylenol, it is adequate for pain relief.  I usually recommend it to cut down on the addictive opiate in the Vicodan and Percocet prescriptions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem lies with the public not reading labels. Many people combine medications which all have acetaminophen without their knowledge. They take Nyquil without realizing it contains tylenol, and then take tylenol thinking they have “aches” and it will help. A campaign to make the consumer more knowledgeable would probably suffice. By the way Vicodan contains extra strength tylenol, 500mg per tablet, where Percocet contains regular strength tylenol, 350mg per tablet. I have often found that patients who take ½ tablet of say Percocet or Vicodan along with a plain tylenol, it is adequate for pain relief.  I usually recommend it to cut down on the addictive opiate in the Vicodan and Percocet prescriptions.</p>
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		<title>By: StJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>StJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 20:11:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They considered banning Nyquil because 0.0000015 percent of the consuming public suffered fatal liver failure &quot;possibly related&quot; to acetaminophen overdoses when the user was ALSO combining it with other drugs that contained acetaminophen?  Seriously?
OK, that&#039;s it, time for a complete automobile ban.  Some stupid fool might mix driving with the use of cell phones and kill somebody.  Oh, wait, they&#039;re doing it already, and at a much higher percentage!!
Moral of the story: You can&#039;t protect the stupid from themselves.  I think this is called the &quot;law of natural selection&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They considered banning Nyquil because 0.0000015 percent of the consuming public suffered fatal liver failure &#8220;possibly related&#8221; to acetaminophen overdoses when the user was ALSO combining it with other drugs that contained acetaminophen?  Seriously?<br />
OK, that&#8217;s it, time for a complete automobile ban.  Some stupid fool might mix driving with the use of cell phones and kill somebody.  Oh, wait, they&#8217;re doing it already, and at a much higher percentage!!<br />
Moral of the story: You can&#8217;t protect the stupid from themselves.  I think this is called the &#8220;law of natural selection&#8221;.</p>
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