Comments on: Kudos to Justice Ginsburg for Chrysler Stay

By: Che was a homicidal maniac

Che was a homicidal maniac — Wed, 10 Jun 2009 18:50:11 +0000

Karl Rove sure does have it right about Moron Dowd at the NYTimesUP.

Former White House adviser Karl Rove lashed out at New York Times columnist Maureen Dowd on Fox News Channel Wednesday, saying Dowd was a “nasty, snarky person” with a “twisted, bitter little heart.”

“I think Maureen Dowd is a bitter, twisted, deranged columnist for the New York Times who misses no opportunity to show her disdain for the conservative side of the aisle,” Rove said on Fox News Channel.

“I actually went to an editorial board meeting at the New York Times and wasted a couple bucks on some flowers to give Maureen Dowd…give her a smile on her face. And that didn’t even work,” he recalled. “This is a dour, downbeat liberal.”

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0609/23582.html

By: noruleoflaw

noruleoflaw — Wed, 10 Jun 2009 17:29:56 +0000

these bonds were bought years ago, when they were supposed to be secured and first in line by the bankrupcty laws. since the total value of the bonds held were less than the liquidation value of the car company, as long as the law was followed, their bonds would be safe. they were investing in an american car company. with the economic fallout, a lot of them have lost their jobs and their retirement portfolios have gone to waste. this is what a lot of them are using to get by.

By: Scott

Scott — Wed, 10 Jun 2009 17:00:36 +0000

I frankly cant see anybody getting a “sweetheart” deal. Its just who is losing more. I frankly have a hard time with someone who is depending on bonds for groceries…it doesn’t really make a lot of sense to buy bonds at the risk of not eating

By: noruleoflaw

noruleoflaw — Wed, 10 Jun 2009 16:48:50 +0000

i would just like the people on this board to realize a couple of things. first, the bondholders, the secured creditors vilified in the press, are for the most part average, middle class citizens. they bought those bonds believing that they would be first in line, and bought them at a premium because of that. a lot of them use payments on those bonds not for jet planes or another boat, but rather, groceries, electricity, school for their kids, etc. those are the people that the press made you believe were evil. screw the retirees who live on a fixed income, and one of the incomes is payments on the bond. screw them. (as you can see, i am a little angry about this).

Now, who got the sweetheart deal of sweatheart deals in this? it sure as heck wasnt the bondholders, they got pennies on the dollar and were removed from any secured position (they got common stock). It sure wasnt us taxpayers, we paid billions in bailout and get crap. you know who it was? the unions. yeah, they had to make some minor concessions, big deal. now they have to work like everyone else (actually, a lot of their contractural provisions are in place, so they really dont have to work like the rest of us). in return for their constant dedication to paying off every friggin democrat in the states, they get Obama as the ultimate bribe and sucker. their hard earned bribes have paid off in dividends.

i have always bought american, until now. i will never buy another american car, ever.

By: sane jane

sane jane — Wed, 10 Jun 2009 16:08:26 +0000

At least there’s a mostly decent, civilized conversation over here at BB’s blog. Far preferable to troll magnets Wooten and Bookman.

Props to noruleoflaw for acknowledging a possible mistake, manning up and even having a sense of humor about it. Most anonymous commenters just run away and hide when debunked. This gives cynical ol’ me a bit of hope.

By: Foxwood

Foxwood — Wed, 10 Jun 2009 15:48:06 +0000

If you don’t know the Constitution, you don’t know the law. Read the 5th Amendment, Specifically the last part of it. “nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law”.With this and bankruptcy law, our Constitution only worth is for toilet paper.

By: chiu

chiu — Wed, 10 Jun 2009 15:32:40 +0000

just for this reason I will not buy GM or Chrysler.

By: Ray Pugh

Ray Pugh — Wed, 10 Jun 2009 15:21:10 +0000

But see Scott, the problem is when you’re driveling idiot, you’re too stupid to tell when someone is more qualified than you to make a decision.

By: Scott

Scott — Wed, 10 Jun 2009 14:45:09 +0000

I’m not an attorney, but all of you screaming about “Rule of Law” being trashed seem to be missing one BIG thing. This made its way all the way through the appeals process and was allowed to proceed. I would think if this was so outrageously against the “Rule of Law”, it would have been held up at some point, dont you think? There is no “trashing” of the judicial by the executive. I fully believe the judges who saw this case are far more qualified to make judgment than anyone here

By: PMC

PMC — Wed, 10 Jun 2009 14:37:50 +0000

Sell the Magnum Bob… buy a Challenger.