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	<title>Comments on: Irrational Fear Behind Guantanamo Detainee Decision</title>
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		<title>By: Mike Frazzini</title>
		<link>http://blogs.ajc.com/bob-barr-blog/2009/05/22/irrational-fear-behind-guantanamo-detainee-decision/comment-page-2/#comment-1551</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Frazzini</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2009 03:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think its niave and simplistic to think that the fear is based on these enemy combatants coming to the US.  Of course they would be secured.  I believe the real concern is whether or not due process and a trial applies, and the facts and security issues that could come as a result.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think its niave and simplistic to think that the fear is based on these enemy combatants coming to the US.  Of course they would be secured.  I believe the real concern is whether or not due process and a trial applies, and the facts and security issues that could come as a result.</p>
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		<title>By: William H. in Lithonia</title>
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		<dc:creator>William H. in Lithonia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 May 2009 08:22:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Bob Barr I agree. But it&#039;s not fear of the terrorists, it&#039;s the fear that they will be aquitted. After all, they have not been proven guilty of anything yet. And if they were indeed tortured any evidence obtained by that torture must be thrown out. Republicans are more afraid their Bush administration will be found guilty of violating 4rth Amendment Rights, that&#039;s the real fear. After all, their reasoning for going to war in the first place was proven false - along with the cooked up facts they sold it to us with.

I know some do not think our rights extend beyond our boundary - but wasn&#039;t one of the reasons used to sell us the Iraq War that we were &#039;exporting our democratic values&#039;? Just what do unalienable rights mean anyway?  Are they human rights or not?

You can&#039;t have it both ways, but hypocritical republicans by nature will try. I&#039;m glad we have some people in office now that believe government should be for the good of humanity, unlike the last regime.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Bob Barr I agree. But it&#8217;s not fear of the terrorists, it&#8217;s the fear that they will be aquitted. After all, they have not been proven guilty of anything yet. And if they were indeed tortured any evidence obtained by that torture must be thrown out. Republicans are more afraid their Bush administration will be found guilty of violating 4rth Amendment Rights, that&#8217;s the real fear. After all, their reasoning for going to war in the first place was proven false &#8211; along with the cooked up facts they sold it to us with.</p>
<p>I know some do not think our rights extend beyond our boundary &#8211; but wasn&#8217;t one of the reasons used to sell us the Iraq War that we were &#8216;exporting our democratic values&#8217;? Just what do unalienable rights mean anyway?  Are they human rights or not?</p>
<p>You can&#8217;t have it both ways, but hypocritical republicans by nature will try. I&#8217;m glad we have some people in office now that believe government should be for the good of humanity, unlike the last regime.</p>
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		<title>By: William</title>
		<link>http://blogs.ajc.com/bob-barr-blog/2009/05/22/irrational-fear-behind-guantanamo-detainee-decision/comment-page-2/#comment-1480</link>
		<dc:creator>William</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 May 2009 22:28:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When Bob Barr isn&#039;t giving us  a libertarian rant, he occasionally says something very rational.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When Bob Barr isn&#8217;t giving us  a libertarian rant, he occasionally says something very rational.</p>
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		<title>By: Avery J.</title>
		<link>http://blogs.ajc.com/bob-barr-blog/2009/05/22/irrational-fear-behind-guantanamo-detainee-decision/comment-page-2/#comment-1479</link>
		<dc:creator>Avery J.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 May 2009 22:07:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Micahel H. Smith, right on. There is a website dedicated to the exploration of these issues at http://www.insidegitmo.com that you and others here might want to take a look at.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Micahel H. Smith, right on. There is a website dedicated to the exploration of these issues at <a href="http://www.insidegitmo.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.insidegitmo.com</a> that you and others here might want to take a look at.</p>
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		<title>By: Put em in a Dumbo state</title>
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		<dc:creator>Put em in a Dumbo state</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 May 2009 18:32:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do you suppose it is because socialists will not work and expect the government (we working taxpayers) to keep them up? 


Unemployment 20% Higher in Democrat Strongholds 

Unemployment in April remained 20 percent higher in states won by Democratic candidate Barack Obama in last fall&#039;s presidential election than in states won by Republican candidate John McCain, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics released yesterday. Nationwide, the unemployment rate went from 8.5 percent in March to 8.9 percent in April. WND previously reported that if unemployment numbers in the states won by Obama do not begin improving soon, the Democratic Party may face the prospect of 2010 mid-term election losses in both governor races and in Congress. A national telephone survey conducted by Rasmussen Reports has found... 

http://wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.printable&amp;pageId=98951</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do you suppose it is because socialists will not work and expect the government (we working taxpayers) to keep them up? </p>
<p>Unemployment 20% Higher in Democrat Strongholds </p>
<p>Unemployment in April remained 20 percent higher in states won by Democratic candidate Barack Obama in last fall&#8217;s presidential election than in states won by Republican candidate John McCain, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics released yesterday. Nationwide, the unemployment rate went from 8.5 percent in March to 8.9 percent in April. WND previously reported that if unemployment numbers in the states won by Obama do not begin improving soon, the Democratic Party may face the prospect of 2010 mid-term election losses in both governor races and in Congress. A national telephone survey conducted by Rasmussen Reports has found&#8230; </p>
<p><a href="http://wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.printable&amp;pageId=98951" rel="nofollow">http://wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.printable&amp;pageId=98951</a></p>
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		<title>By: Jay rules Andy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jay rules Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 May 2009 12:13:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WOW!
Dick Cheney can out a CIA operative, but Nancy Pelosi isn&#039;t allowed a disagreement with the CIA?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WOW!<br />
Dick Cheney can out a CIA operative, but Nancy Pelosi isn&#8217;t allowed a disagreement with the CIA?</p>
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		<title>By: GB</title>
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		<dc:creator>GB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 May 2009 12:05:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>80 billion dollars!
$80,000,000,000!
Eighty billion dollars!!

It would cost EIGHTY BILLION DOLLARS to BEGIN closing this prison???</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>80 billion dollars!<br />
$80,000,000,000!<br />
Eighty billion dollars!!</p>
<p>It would cost EIGHTY BILLION DOLLARS to BEGIN closing this prison???</p>
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		<title>By: Micahel H. Smith</title>
		<link>http://blogs.ajc.com/bob-barr-blog/2009/05/22/irrational-fear-behind-guantanamo-detainee-decision/comment-page-2/#comment-1474</link>
		<dc:creator>Micahel H. Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 May 2009 22:31:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very astute reasoning and even more accurate is the assessment of what not only hasn&#039;t been discussed here, is the discussion that didn&#039;t occur in the Congress, notwithstanding the presence of a then Senator Obama. America has never before had to deal with this particular problem of combatant foreign terrorists. In the opinion of many our Constitution and laws are possibly inadequate to correctly answer what to do with such individuals beyond the scope of observing their human rights. Because of this avoidance eventually the Supreme Court will likely decide the discussion. They must have a trial but what type of trial and before what court or tribunal shall they be tried? What will be the extend of punishment carried out against them should they be found guilty? One fact remains certain, the United States of America has the sovereign right to deny any foreign citizen entry and residency in this country. Another fact is that we U.S. taxpayers have spent a good deal of money making GITMO secure and very humanely comfortable for these enemy combatants, probably to the point that GITMO as is, would be considered more accommodating than a Federal Super-Max prison, as Sen. Jim Web pointed out. So what is the rush, why a one year deadline to close GITMO, other than to serve the hypocrisy of politics before a candid world? 

Not buying Obumer&#039;s and Gate&#039;s propaganda about the taint of GITMO strengthening our enemies. The taint of their GITMO politics has done the job of strengthening of our enemies already. 

If given the choice between detention on a tropical island like Cuba or incarceration in 23 hour a day locked down inside a Super-Max Federal prison, most of us would opt to take the Federal taxpayer lifetime paid vacation being offered in sunny GITMO.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very astute reasoning and even more accurate is the assessment of what not only hasn&#8217;t been discussed here, is the discussion that didn&#8217;t occur in the Congress, notwithstanding the presence of a then Senator Obama. America has never before had to deal with this particular problem of combatant foreign terrorists. In the opinion of many our Constitution and laws are possibly inadequate to correctly answer what to do with such individuals beyond the scope of observing their human rights. Because of this avoidance eventually the Supreme Court will likely decide the discussion. They must have a trial but what type of trial and before what court or tribunal shall they be tried? What will be the extend of punishment carried out against them should they be found guilty? One fact remains certain, the United States of America has the sovereign right to deny any foreign citizen entry and residency in this country. Another fact is that we U.S. taxpayers have spent a good deal of money making GITMO secure and very humanely comfortable for these enemy combatants, probably to the point that GITMO as is, would be considered more accommodating than a Federal Super-Max prison, as Sen. Jim Web pointed out. So what is the rush, why a one year deadline to close GITMO, other than to serve the hypocrisy of politics before a candid world? </p>
<p>Not buying Obumer&#8217;s and Gate&#8217;s propaganda about the taint of GITMO strengthening our enemies. The taint of their GITMO politics has done the job of strengthening of our enemies already. </p>
<p>If given the choice between detention on a tropical island like Cuba or incarceration in 23 hour a day locked down inside a Super-Max Federal prison, most of us would opt to take the Federal taxpayer lifetime paid vacation being offered in sunny GITMO.</p>
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		<title>By: Avery J.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Avery J.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 May 2009 19:23:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Setting a precedent for US prisons to indefinitely hold anyone who hasn&#039;t been convicted of a crime is a horrible idea -- one that could be turned against Americans in the future. Obama acknowledges that they are too dangerous to let go, and wants to create the authority to put them in the SuperMaxs even though some can&#039;t be charged. 

If this happens, how long will it be before US citizens merely accused of being dangerous are sent into the prison system as well? Twisting our constitutional and legal systems to accommodate the relatively short-term needs of a couple hundred Gitmo detainees will have very serious consequences that are not being discussed here. 

Terrorist captured on foreign battlefields are not US citizens; Americans should not be asked to support any plan that would allow our prisons to detain anyone who has not been convicted in our courts. Keeping GITMO open will protect our own civil rights in the long run.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Setting a precedent for US prisons to indefinitely hold anyone who hasn&#8217;t been convicted of a crime is a horrible idea &#8212; one that could be turned against Americans in the future. Obama acknowledges that they are too dangerous to let go, and wants to create the authority to put them in the SuperMaxs even though some can&#8217;t be charged. </p>
<p>If this happens, how long will it be before US citizens merely accused of being dangerous are sent into the prison system as well? Twisting our constitutional and legal systems to accommodate the relatively short-term needs of a couple hundred Gitmo detainees will have very serious consequences that are not being discussed here. </p>
<p>Terrorist captured on foreign battlefields are not US citizens; Americans should not be asked to support any plan that would allow our prisons to detain anyone who has not been convicted in our courts. Keeping GITMO open will protect our own civil rights in the long run.</p>
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		<title>By: Che was a homicidal maniac</title>
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		<dc:creator>Che was a homicidal maniac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 May 2009 17:36:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>GodHatesTrash, Superstar has the IQ of a carrot. Please Ms. Trash, move out of your moms basement and get a real job.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GodHatesTrash, Superstar has the IQ of a carrot. Please Ms. Trash, move out of your moms basement and get a real job.</p>
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