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		<title>By: Poker Tool</title>
		<link>http://blogs.ajc.com/bob-barr-blog/2009/05/15/legalize-online-gambling/comment-page-1/#comment-10972</link>
		<dc:creator>Poker Tool</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Feb 2010 17:59:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Online gambling makes more fun with a good poker too,l of corse all leagal.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Online gambling makes more fun with a good poker too,l of corse all leagal.<br />
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		<title>By: News &#171; Wyoming Lottery</title>
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		<dc:creator>News &#171; Wyoming Lottery</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jan 2010 21:19:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] In 2006, the Congress which was then still controlled by the Republican Party, passed legislation (then signed by President George W. Bush) that explictly restricted internet gambling. Read More&#8230; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] In 2006, the Congress which was then still controlled by the Republican Party, passed legislation (then signed by President George W. Bush) that explictly restricted internet gambling. Read More&#8230; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Wolf Barks</title>
		<link>http://blogs.ajc.com/bob-barr-blog/2009/05/15/legalize-online-gambling/comment-page-1/#comment-7078</link>
		<dc:creator>Wolf Barks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 16:53:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Legalizing gambling will definitely benefit a lot of people. Whether it is legalized or not, gambling will always be there. To protect the players from scams, online gambling should be legalized. I play at www.bingosuite.com and I use my winnings to contribute more to charities. If online gambling is legalized, they can use the tax for gambling in medical care, housing plans, and the like.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Legalizing gambling will definitely benefit a lot of people. Whether it is legalized or not, gambling will always be there. To protect the players from scams, online gambling should be legalized. I play at <a href="http://www.bingosuite.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.bingosuite.com</a> and I use my winnings to contribute more to charities. If online gambling is legalized, they can use the tax for gambling in medical care, housing plans, and the like.</p>
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		<title>By: Morris Walker</title>
		<link>http://blogs.ajc.com/bob-barr-blog/2009/05/15/legalize-online-gambling/comment-page-1/#comment-2284</link>
		<dc:creator>Morris Walker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 12:02:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It would be better if the government would just take action to regulate gambling instead of banning it either way it doesn&#039;t harm anyone. Why not legalized online gambling if alcohols and cigarettes are legal?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It would be better if the government would just take action to regulate gambling instead of banning it either way it doesn&#8217;t harm anyone. Why not legalized online gambling if alcohols and cigarettes are legal?</p>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
		<link>http://blogs.ajc.com/bob-barr-blog/2009/05/15/legalize-online-gambling/comment-page-1/#comment-1375</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 13:11:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Online gambling should definetely be legalized 


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		<title>By: Kenboy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kenboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 May 2009 10:46:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t have an emotional investment here.  Gamble?  Gamble online?  I think it&#039;s pathetic, but my only advice is never bet more than you can afford to lose.  As one commenter above noted, this debate is really about the money; i.e. tax revenues, not morality or freedom.  Americans  have no qualms about being single issue thinkers and there are ready analogies to other issues founded on emotion, but cloaked in the Constitution.  

Do you think there will be a bumper sticker that says:  &quot;They can have my straight flush when they pry it from my cold dead hand?&quot;   

What I find fascinating is the fact that very few of the people who rail against UIGEA understand how little it does or realize that the banks are not yet complying with it even though it became law in 2006.

In essence, UIGEA denys access to the payments system for illegal Internet gambling.  It does not make Internet gambling illegal.  Any prohibition must come from some other federal or state law.  UIGEA merely says if the payment involves illegal Internet gambling, the bank must block check, ACH, wire, card, etc. deposits to its commercial (read business) customers.  It has nothing to do with consumer (individual) accounts.  The law does not require banks to actively monitor business accounts, let alone consumer accounts.  The banks that have purportedly contacted individual customers about suspected Internet gambling are as lost in the weeds as its opponents are. 

The law does not say how the bank should know the payment is derived from illegal Internet gambling.  As millions of financial transfers take place every single day, the idea that banks understand every point of origin for every payment is simply ludicrous.  All the law does is require banks to put policies and procedures in place on what to do if they find Internet gambling, it does not require them to look for it.  Their most stringent requirement is to obtain a certification from their commercial customers that their activities will not involve illegal Internet gambling.  

For the banks it&#039;s &quot;checklist&quot; compliance, not a search and destroy mission.  The law that opponents hate so much is so watered down as to make it meaningless.

Moreover, although the law is currently in effect, bank compliance is not mandatory until December 1, 2009.  In short, most banks are smart enough to recognize a political football when they see one; very few have made an attempt to comply early.  In addition to his bill to legalize and regulate Internet gambling Rep. Frank proposed a bill that would delay UIGEA&#039;s mandatory compliance date for another year. The near term barometer for this issue is whether that bill, HR2266, passes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t have an emotional investment here.  Gamble?  Gamble online?  I think it&#8217;s pathetic, but my only advice is never bet more than you can afford to lose.  As one commenter above noted, this debate is really about the money; i.e. tax revenues, not morality or freedom.  Americans  have no qualms about being single issue thinkers and there are ready analogies to other issues founded on emotion, but cloaked in the Constitution.  </p>
<p>Do you think there will be a bumper sticker that says:  &#8220;They can have my straight flush when they pry it from my cold dead hand?&#8221;   </p>
<p>What I find fascinating is the fact that very few of the people who rail against UIGEA understand how little it does or realize that the banks are not yet complying with it even though it became law in 2006.</p>
<p>In essence, UIGEA denys access to the payments system for illegal Internet gambling.  It does not make Internet gambling illegal.  Any prohibition must come from some other federal or state law.  UIGEA merely says if the payment involves illegal Internet gambling, the bank must block check, ACH, wire, card, etc. deposits to its commercial (read business) customers.  It has nothing to do with consumer (individual) accounts.  The law does not require banks to actively monitor business accounts, let alone consumer accounts.  The banks that have purportedly contacted individual customers about suspected Internet gambling are as lost in the weeds as its opponents are. </p>
<p>The law does not say how the bank should know the payment is derived from illegal Internet gambling.  As millions of financial transfers take place every single day, the idea that banks understand every point of origin for every payment is simply ludicrous.  All the law does is require banks to put policies and procedures in place on what to do if they find Internet gambling, it does not require them to look for it.  Their most stringent requirement is to obtain a certification from their commercial customers that their activities will not involve illegal Internet gambling.  </p>
<p>For the banks it&#8217;s &#8220;checklist&#8221; compliance, not a search and destroy mission.  The law that opponents hate so much is so watered down as to make it meaningless.</p>
<p>Moreover, although the law is currently in effect, bank compliance is not mandatory until December 1, 2009.  In short, most banks are smart enough to recognize a political football when they see one; very few have made an attempt to comply early.  In addition to his bill to legalize and regulate Internet gambling Rep. Frank proposed a bill that would delay UIGEA&#8217;s mandatory compliance date for another year. The near term barometer for this issue is whether that bill, HR2266, passes.</p>
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		<title>By: Jimbo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jimbo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 May 2009 17:20:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Snark, everything has the potential to harm. It&#039;s people like you, who apparently think you can legislate and regulate all the risk away, that are ruining this place. People have to have the freedom to make their own mistakes and also the opportunity to fix those mistakes and learn from them. Besides the fact that bans haven&#039;t really worked very well (drugs, booze, guns, gambling and abortions.. these things have always remained widely available even when banned). Also, teenagers aren&#039;t exactly adults, except 18 and 19-year-olds and tell me things are better now that we allow people to drink at 21 and not 18. Further the military gives kids those ages access to some of the most destructive weapons in history.. sooooo.. I don&#039;t know what to tell you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Snark, everything has the potential to harm. It&#8217;s people like you, who apparently think you can legislate and regulate all the risk away, that are ruining this place. People have to have the freedom to make their own mistakes and also the opportunity to fix those mistakes and learn from them. Besides the fact that bans haven&#8217;t really worked very well (drugs, booze, guns, gambling and abortions.. these things have always remained widely available even when banned). Also, teenagers aren&#8217;t exactly adults, except 18 and 19-year-olds and tell me things are better now that we allow people to drink at 21 and not 18. Further the military gives kids those ages access to some of the most destructive weapons in history.. sooooo.. I don&#8217;t know what to tell you.</p>
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		<title>By: willgrey</title>
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		<dc:creator>willgrey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 May 2009 16:42:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I spent forty-five years and retired from the Gambling Industry, mostly poker in Nevada and California.  Owned a poker room, Supervised Poker, and dealt poker for years.  I&#039;ve played on several sites on the internet over the years and although I have never had a problem cashing in my winning; I believe the poker sites should be regulated and licensed.  Poker sites should not be permitted to allow employees or anyone connected to any poker site to play on that site.  I have been fortunate enough to be a winner over the years, but I only play in the low buy-in tournaments and ring games.  There are many poker sites I have barred myself from, I took this action because at one time or another action by a player did not seem kosher.  I questioned some of the plays with the management and received answers such as those things happen in poker.  Another thing that disturbs me is being moved to another table after winning a few hands when there is no reason to be moved, believe I&#039;ve checked.  These sites do need to be regulated, if I am correct in my opinion of some sites, which I believe I am, the following should be manatory. 1.  Employees or paid players (Props) not permitted to play.  2.  Only the shift Supervisor should have access to the reading of all players hole cards.  3.  Poker sites are not permitted to move players from one table to another unless it is absolutely necessary.  Poker Sites not permitted to charge a fee for collecting winnings.  4.  Proof of age must be supplied to poker site by player.  5.  Any player permitting an underage player to play on his or her site shall be barred for life from all poker sites and fined.  6.  Each player should set a limit of deposit.  7.  Player can only have accounts in three poker sites at one time.  8.  The rake (monies taken from the pot to pay for playing) should follow the guide lines that are now in place.  9.  Poker sites to pay taxes as well as players.  

The Government will never stop the desire for American people to play poker, I strongly suggest that all poker players join the Poker Players Alliance and join the fight.  Write your Representatives to support Barney Frank&#039;s bill.  Approval of the Government to play online poker is coming, just of a question of when.   Willgrey</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I spent forty-five years and retired from the Gambling Industry, mostly poker in Nevada and California.  Owned a poker room, Supervised Poker, and dealt poker for years.  I&#8217;ve played on several sites on the internet over the years and although I have never had a problem cashing in my winning; I believe the poker sites should be regulated and licensed.  Poker sites should not be permitted to allow employees or anyone connected to any poker site to play on that site.  I have been fortunate enough to be a winner over the years, but I only play in the low buy-in tournaments and ring games.  There are many poker sites I have barred myself from, I took this action because at one time or another action by a player did not seem kosher.  I questioned some of the plays with the management and received answers such as those things happen in poker.  Another thing that disturbs me is being moved to another table after winning a few hands when there is no reason to be moved, believe I&#8217;ve checked.  These sites do need to be regulated, if I am correct in my opinion of some sites, which I believe I am, the following should be manatory. 1.  Employees or paid players (Props) not permitted to play.  2.  Only the shift Supervisor should have access to the reading of all players hole cards.  3.  Poker sites are not permitted to move players from one table to another unless it is absolutely necessary.  Poker Sites not permitted to charge a fee for collecting winnings.  4.  Proof of age must be supplied to poker site by player.  5.  Any player permitting an underage player to play on his or her site shall be barred for life from all poker sites and fined.  6.  Each player should set a limit of deposit.  7.  Player can only have accounts in three poker sites at one time.  8.  The rake (monies taken from the pot to pay for playing) should follow the guide lines that are now in place.  9.  Poker sites to pay taxes as well as players.  </p>
<p>The Government will never stop the desire for American people to play poker, I strongly suggest that all poker players join the Poker Players Alliance and join the fight.  Write your Representatives to support Barney Frank&#8217;s bill.  Approval of the Government to play online poker is coming, just of a question of when.   Willgrey</p>
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		<title>By: Monte</title>
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		<dc:creator>Monte</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 May 2009 08:02:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>People cry about gambling causing problems etc.  Do you  know how many people gamble with local bookies on monies that they don&#039;t have?  At least with online gambling you must use money that you have and not be playing on credit.

Now for those that cry that gambling is bad for family etc.  Let&#039;s take a look at alcohol which we know causes illnesses, drunk drivers killing people which in return raises our car insurance, is addictive and teenagers drink alcohol.

Now let&#039;s look at tobacco products which we know is addictive, causes cancer, causes millions if not billions of dollars per year in health care costs.  The States sued the tobacco companies and got billions.  Teens smoking is on the rise too.

Now what&#039;s the difference between these 3?  The Government isn&#039;t collecting taxes on the monies spent with offshore gambling sites.  So it boils down to money.  And let&#039;s not forget the hypocrites who legislate against legalizing gambling who in there own States have Casinos, horse racing, dog racing, lotteries and bingo parlors.  All can be addictive, lead to money problems etc.  So what&#039;s the difference?  Again is all about the money!  These State senators and congressmen get monies from these gambling places in their States for his or her campaigns.  Yet they have the nerve to say online gambling is a problem.  This is a Joke and a double standard.  If you can gamble like this at places all over the USA then people should have the freedom to choose to gamble online.  If you regulate the industry then this Country will collect billions of dollars in monies each year.  Plus to say that its fair to gamble in the USA at these places, but not online is unfair trade practices which the USA has already lost a case in the WTO.  Yet they have ignored the ruling.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People cry about gambling causing problems etc.  Do you  know how many people gamble with local bookies on monies that they don&#8217;t have?  At least with online gambling you must use money that you have and not be playing on credit.</p>
<p>Now for those that cry that gambling is bad for family etc.  Let&#8217;s take a look at alcohol which we know causes illnesses, drunk drivers killing people which in return raises our car insurance, is addictive and teenagers drink alcohol.</p>
<p>Now let&#8217;s look at tobacco products which we know is addictive, causes cancer, causes millions if not billions of dollars per year in health care costs.  The States sued the tobacco companies and got billions.  Teens smoking is on the rise too.</p>
<p>Now what&#8217;s the difference between these 3?  The Government isn&#8217;t collecting taxes on the monies spent with offshore gambling sites.  So it boils down to money.  And let&#8217;s not forget the hypocrites who legislate against legalizing gambling who in there own States have Casinos, horse racing, dog racing, lotteries and bingo parlors.  All can be addictive, lead to money problems etc.  So what&#8217;s the difference?  Again is all about the money!  These State senators and congressmen get monies from these gambling places in their States for his or her campaigns.  Yet they have the nerve to say online gambling is a problem.  This is a Joke and a double standard.  If you can gamble like this at places all over the USA then people should have the freedom to choose to gamble online.  If you regulate the industry then this Country will collect billions of dollars in monies each year.  Plus to say that its fair to gamble in the USA at these places, but not online is unfair trade practices which the USA has already lost a case in the WTO.  Yet they have ignored the ruling.</p>
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		<title>By: Che was a homicidal maniac</title>
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		<dc:creator>Che was a homicidal maniac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 23:39:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Caveman, nope. I&#039;ve got me one of them there wifes.</description>
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