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		<title>By: cr747</title>
		<link>http://blogs.ajc.com/bob-barr-blog/2009/04/01/gun-control-crowd-pushes-radical-goal/comment-page-2/#comment-2939</link>
		<dc:creator>cr747</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jul 2009 03:08:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When guns are outlawed, I will become an outlaw.  Simple</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When guns are outlawed, I will become an outlaw.  Simple</p>
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		<title>By: Dakotared</title>
		<link>http://blogs.ajc.com/bob-barr-blog/2009/04/01/gun-control-crowd-pushes-radical-goal/comment-page-2/#comment-476</link>
		<dc:creator>Dakotared</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Apr 2009 13:41:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MChammer:  You like so many other use the driver&#039;s license analogy completly in error.  Just as you need a license to drive a car in public, you also need a license to carry a loaded firearm in public.  You are proposing that a license be required to simply own a gun, however a license is NOT required to own a car, only to operate it in public.  Give a little more thought to your incorrect use of this analogy before espousing it in the future.  You may find comfort in the fact that many other people also incorrectly use this analogy between cars and guns...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MChammer:  You like so many other use the driver&#8217;s license analogy completly in error.  Just as you need a license to drive a car in public, you also need a license to carry a loaded firearm in public.  You are proposing that a license be required to simply own a gun, however a license is NOT required to own a car, only to operate it in public.  Give a little more thought to your incorrect use of this analogy before espousing it in the future.  You may find comfort in the fact that many other people also incorrectly use this analogy between cars and guns&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Jimbo</title>
		<link>http://blogs.ajc.com/bob-barr-blog/2009/04/01/gun-control-crowd-pushes-radical-goal/comment-page-2/#comment-440</link>
		<dc:creator>Jimbo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2009 18:22:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh right.. and it if you really want to get into it, the third reich re-armed in violation of the Treaty of  Versailles which just goes to show you how well arms control works when the subject of those controls has no interest in complying.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh right.. and it if you really want to get into it, the third reich re-armed in violation of the Treaty of  Versailles which just goes to show you how well arms control works when the subject of those controls has no interest in complying.</p>
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		<title>By: Jimbo</title>
		<link>http://blogs.ajc.com/bob-barr-blog/2009/04/01/gun-control-crowd-pushes-radical-goal/comment-page-2/#comment-434</link>
		<dc:creator>Jimbo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2009 14:53:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Copyleft, if you can’t tell the difference between weapons in the hands of the state and weapons in the hands of the people then you&#039;ve got issues. The German STATE armed itself in the 1930s while it simultaneously disarmed the German PEOPLE. The state did this to make the consolidation of power and the elimination of dissenters easier. 

When the night of broken glass occurred, it was perpetrated, or at least led, by SA thugs. Had I been a Jewish store or home owner I would’ve been much happier that night with a gun in my house than not. Having a gun in my possession might have made my eventual escape to the UK or US easier too. Actually, if SA members had been armed on the night of the long knives, maybe the SS wouldn’t have managed to kill so many of them, so I suppose they got theirs. Also, history tells us how effective armed citizens were in places like France, Poland, and the Netherlands. It’s just that the allies had to take the trouble of arming them after they became occupied.

Oh, and you clearly don’t understand what a militia is, or why it’s different from the standing military of the US or why the Constitution says what it does. I don’t really blame you for the misunderstanding. Most people have had their perception twisted by the government over the last century or so. Still, it’s really hard to fear the people while hiding behind that big standing army of theirs. I see now why so many state constitutions claim that standing armies are a danger to liberty. Sort of makes you wonder why a militia is necessary to the security of a free state, but a standing army is a threat, eh?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Copyleft, if you can’t tell the difference between weapons in the hands of the state and weapons in the hands of the people then you&#8217;ve got issues. The German STATE armed itself in the 1930s while it simultaneously disarmed the German PEOPLE. The state did this to make the consolidation of power and the elimination of dissenters easier. </p>
<p>When the night of broken glass occurred, it was perpetrated, or at least led, by SA thugs. Had I been a Jewish store or home owner I would’ve been much happier that night with a gun in my house than not. Having a gun in my possession might have made my eventual escape to the UK or US easier too. Actually, if SA members had been armed on the night of the long knives, maybe the SS wouldn’t have managed to kill so many of them, so I suppose they got theirs. Also, history tells us how effective armed citizens were in places like France, Poland, and the Netherlands. It’s just that the allies had to take the trouble of arming them after they became occupied.</p>
<p>Oh, and you clearly don’t understand what a militia is, or why it’s different from the standing military of the US or why the Constitution says what it does. I don’t really blame you for the misunderstanding. Most people have had their perception twisted by the government over the last century or so. Still, it’s really hard to fear the people while hiding behind that big standing army of theirs. I see now why so many state constitutions claim that standing armies are a danger to liberty. Sort of makes you wonder why a militia is necessary to the security of a free state, but a standing army is a threat, eh?</p>
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		<title>By: williebkind</title>
		<link>http://blogs.ajc.com/bob-barr-blog/2009/04/01/gun-control-crowd-pushes-radical-goal/comment-page-2/#comment-430</link>
		<dc:creator>williebkind</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2009 13:03:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you are a socialist, you want gun control or guns outlawed.  If you are a real American, you believe in the ideal of  freedom and the bill of rights.  Can we have a socialist government with our present constitution?  My right to have something does not matter what I do with it.  I am innocent until proven guilty.  If I want an assault rifle, a machine gun, or 40mm cannon, why does that bother you?  I am a law abiding citizen.  Murder and such goes back to Cain slew Able.  However the world progressed and populations increased despite the lack of freedoms for the common folk.  I will exercise my constitutional right to bear arms and I will fight for real Amercians to have any weapon that person wants.  Freedom is Freedom unless you are socialist.  Please do not tell me you are not a socialist by wanting gun control... I hate lies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you are a socialist, you want gun control or guns outlawed.  If you are a real American, you believe in the ideal of  freedom and the bill of rights.  Can we have a socialist government with our present constitution?  My right to have something does not matter what I do with it.  I am innocent until proven guilty.  If I want an assault rifle, a machine gun, or 40mm cannon, why does that bother you?  I am a law abiding citizen.  Murder and such goes back to Cain slew Able.  However the world progressed and populations increased despite the lack of freedoms for the common folk.  I will exercise my constitutional right to bear arms and I will fight for real Amercians to have any weapon that person wants.  Freedom is Freedom unless you are socialist.  Please do not tell me you are not a socialist by wanting gun control&#8230; I hate lies.</p>
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		<title>By: SaveOurRepublic</title>
		<link>http://blogs.ajc.com/bob-barr-blog/2009/04/01/gun-control-crowd-pushes-radical-goal/comment-page-2/#comment-426</link>
		<dc:creator>SaveOurRepublic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 22:04:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The continued attack on the 2nd Amendment won&#039;t soon end, but will (rather) increase...irregardless of the empty lip service &quot;Bacrock Obuma&quot; pays to questions of further &quot;gun control&quot; laws.  The Dems will leverage this incidents (like the possible PYSOP in NY &amp; probable one at VaTech) to &quot;justify&quot; further infringement of our 2nd Amendment rights.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The continued attack on the 2nd Amendment won&#8217;t soon end, but will (rather) increase&#8230;irregardless of the empty lip service &#8220;Bacrock Obuma&#8221; pays to questions of further &#8220;gun control&#8221; laws.  The Dems will leverage this incidents (like the possible PYSOP in NY &amp; probable one at VaTech) to &#8220;justify&#8221; further infringement of our 2nd Amendment rights.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 20:07:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While watching Face the nation a week ago, President Obama was asked if he thought we needed more gun laws to help stem the border wars to which he replied &quot; we dont need new laws, we need to enforce the ones we already have&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While watching Face the nation a week ago, President Obama was asked if he thought we needed more gun laws to help stem the border wars to which he replied &#8221; we dont need new laws, we need to enforce the ones we already have&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: DUW</title>
		<link>http://blogs.ajc.com/bob-barr-blog/2009/04/01/gun-control-crowd-pushes-radical-goal/comment-page-2/#comment-394</link>
		<dc:creator>DUW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2009 18:33:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Copyleft
Read histiry. Hitlers government took all of the citizens weapons away from them. That left only his army with weapons. He was then able to go door to door in Germany and take what ever and whomever he wanted without anyone to defend them. 
As is happening now, many citizens thought it a good idea to eliminate the private weapons. 

In Australia the government has outlawed most citizens from possessing weapons. The crime rate has skyrocketed.

Don&#039;t stand by silent over gun control!!

&quot;They came first for the Communists, and I didn&#039;t speak up because I wasn&#039;t a Communist. 

Then they came for the Jews, and I didn&#039;t speak up because I wasn&#039;t a Jew. 

Then they came for the trade unionists, and I didn&#039;t speak up because I wasn&#039;t a trade unionist. 

Then they came for the Catholics, and I didn&#039;t speak up because I was a Protestant. 

Then they came for me, and by that time no one was left to speak up.&quot; 

~ Rev. Martin Niemoeller, German Lutheran Pastor ~1945</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Copyleft<br />
Read histiry. Hitlers government took all of the citizens weapons away from them. That left only his army with weapons. He was then able to go door to door in Germany and take what ever and whomever he wanted without anyone to defend them.<br />
As is happening now, many citizens thought it a good idea to eliminate the private weapons. </p>
<p>In Australia the government has outlawed most citizens from possessing weapons. The crime rate has skyrocketed.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t stand by silent over gun control!!</p>
<p>&#8220;They came first for the Communists, and I didn&#8217;t speak up because I wasn&#8217;t a Communist. </p>
<p>Then they came for the Jews, and I didn&#8217;t speak up because I wasn&#8217;t a Jew. </p>
<p>Then they came for the trade unionists, and I didn&#8217;t speak up because I wasn&#8217;t a trade unionist. </p>
<p>Then they came for the Catholics, and I didn&#8217;t speak up because I was a Protestant. </p>
<p>Then they came for me, and by that time no one was left to speak up.&#8221; </p>
<p>~ Rev. Martin Niemoeller, German Lutheran Pastor ~1945</p>
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		<title>By: DUW</title>
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		<dc:creator>DUW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2009 18:23:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Copyleft, 
Read your history, once Hitler had disarmed the citizens only the government had guns. Then they went door to door and took whomever and whatever the government wanted. Then the german &quot;army&quot;  (not the civilians) marched acrossed Europe through the countries that had already limited what weapons their citizens could have. 

The second amendment was passed for the citizen to be able to protect them selves against governmental tyranny. To take away the citizens weapons is an invatation for the government to take anything and anyone from you for their own use.

The Bible warns us of goernment and it&#039;s real purpose.
1 Samual 8:10-18 says:

Samuel told all the words of the LORD to the people who were asking him for a king. 11 (The Lord)said, &quot;This is what the king who will reign over you will do: He will take your sons and make them serve with his chariots and horses, and they will run in front of his chariots. 12 Some he will assign to be commanders of thousands and commanders of fifties, and others to plow his ground and reap his harvest, and still others to make weapons of war and equipment for his chariots. 13 He will take your daughters to be perfumers and cooks and bakers. 14 He will take the best of your fields and vineyards and olive groves and give them to his attendants. 15 He will take a tenth of your grain and of your vintage and give it to his officials and attendants. 16 Your menservants and maidservants and the best of your cattle [b] and donkeys he will take for his own use. 17 He will take a tenth of your flocks, and you yourselves will become his slaves. 18 When that day comes, you will cry out for relief from the king you have chosen, and the LORD will not answer you in that day.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Copyleft,<br />
Read your history, once Hitler had disarmed the citizens only the government had guns. Then they went door to door and took whomever and whatever the government wanted. Then the german &#8220;army&#8221;  (not the civilians) marched acrossed Europe through the countries that had already limited what weapons their citizens could have. </p>
<p>The second amendment was passed for the citizen to be able to protect them selves against governmental tyranny. To take away the citizens weapons is an invatation for the government to take anything and anyone from you for their own use.</p>
<p>The Bible warns us of goernment and it&#8217;s real purpose.<br />
1 Samual 8:10-18 says:</p>
<p>Samuel told all the words of the LORD to the people who were asking him for a king. 11 (The Lord)said, &#8220;This is what the king who will reign over you will do: He will take your sons and make them serve with his chariots and horses, and they will run in front of his chariots. 12 Some he will assign to be commanders of thousands and commanders of fifties, and others to plow his ground and reap his harvest, and still others to make weapons of war and equipment for his chariots. 13 He will take your daughters to be perfumers and cooks and bakers. 14 He will take the best of your fields and vineyards and olive groves and give them to his attendants. 15 He will take a tenth of your grain and of your vintage and give it to his officials and attendants. 16 Your menservants and maidservants and the best of your cattle [b] and donkeys he will take for his own use. 17 He will take a tenth of your flocks, and you yourselves will become his slaves. 18 When that day comes, you will cry out for relief from the king you have chosen, and the LORD will not answer you in that day.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Copyleft</title>
		<link>http://blogs.ajc.com/bob-barr-blog/2009/04/01/gun-control-crowd-pushes-radical-goal/comment-page-2/#comment-390</link>
		<dc:creator>Copyleft</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2009 16:46:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, are you saying that Germany wasn&#039;t disarmed after all? Or that they didn&#039;t invade Poland? Clarify, please.

Because once the German people were &quot;disarmed,&quot; they conquered freakin&#039; Europe. This is one of the silliest arguments I&#039;ve ever seen!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, are you saying that Germany wasn&#8217;t disarmed after all? Or that they didn&#8217;t invade Poland? Clarify, please.</p>
<p>Because once the German people were &#8220;disarmed,&#8221; they conquered freakin&#8217; Europe. This is one of the silliest arguments I&#8217;ve ever seen!</p>
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