Comments on: Should courts force minors to have medical treatment? http://blogs.ajc.com/better-health/2009/05/26/should-courts-force-minors-to-have-medical-treatment/ Taking care of you and your family. Tue, 24 Nov 2009 05:40:17 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Jer http://blogs.ajc.com/better-health/2009/05/26/should-courts-force-minors-to-have-medical-treatment/comment-page-1/#comment-785 Jer Sat, 06 Jun 2009 20:14:17 +0000 http://blogs.ajc.com/better-health/?p=423#comment-785 Actually, just in case that previous link doesn't work, here is another reference to the documentary about health, diet, cancer and the food and health care business in the US: The Beautiful Truth http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1288553/ Actually, just in case that previous link doesn’t work, here is another reference to the documentary about health, diet, cancer and the food and health care business in the US: The Beautiful Truth http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1288553/

]]> By: Jer http://blogs.ajc.com/better-health/2009/05/26/should-courts-force-minors-to-have-medical-treatment/comment-page-1/#comment-784 Jer Sat, 06 Jun 2009 20:10:27 +0000 http://blogs.ajc.com/better-health/?p=423#comment-784 "The Beautiful Truth" is a movie with helpful information for those seeking to heal cancer. Check it out if you have time... http://www.netflix.com/Movie/The_Beautiful_Truth/70108390?lnkce=seRtLn&lnkctr=srchrd-sr&strkid=1961194725_0_0 “The Beautiful Truth” is a movie with helpful information for those seeking to heal cancer. Check it out if you have time… http://www.netflix.com/Movie/The_Beautiful_Truth/70108390?lnkce=seRtLn&lnkctr=srchrd-sr&strkid=1961194725_0_0

]]> By: Stop Addiction http://blogs.ajc.com/better-health/2009/05/26/should-courts-force-minors-to-have-medical-treatment/comment-page-1/#comment-778 Stop Addiction Sat, 06 Jun 2009 14:36:10 +0000 http://blogs.ajc.com/better-health/?p=423#comment-778 indeed indeed

]]> By: Ethics Newsline® » News » Medicine and Life Sciences Prominent in Week’s Ethics News http://blogs.ajc.com/better-health/2009/05/26/should-courts-force-minors-to-have-medical-treatment/comment-page-1/#comment-718 Ethics Newsline® » News » Medicine and Life Sciences Prominent in Week’s Ethics News Mon, 01 Jun 2009 23:45:23 +0000 http://blogs.ajc.com/better-health/?p=423#comment-718 [...] of our pills?” Sources: Los Angeles Times, June 1 — Los Angeles Times, June 1 — Atlanta Journal-Constitution, May 29 — Christian Science Monitor, May 29 — BBC, May [...] [...] of our pills?” Sources: Los Angeles Times, June 1 — Los Angeles Times, June 1 — Atlanta Journal-Constitution, May 29 — Christian Science Monitor, May 29 — BBC, May [...]

]]> By: H.L. http://blogs.ajc.com/better-health/2009/05/26/should-courts-force-minors-to-have-medical-treatment/comment-page-1/#comment-716 H.L. Mon, 01 Jun 2009 15:01:39 +0000 http://blogs.ajc.com/better-health/?p=423#comment-716 I agree with the courts ruling. His therapy is in his best interest. Blessings to you young man. I agree with the courts ruling. His therapy is in his best interest. Blessings to you young man.

]]> By: Ray-ray http://blogs.ajc.com/better-health/2009/05/26/should-courts-force-minors-to-have-medical-treatment/comment-page-1/#comment-709 Ray-ray Fri, 29 May 2009 00:11:05 +0000 http://blogs.ajc.com/better-health/?p=423#comment-709 I don't think the law should make people take lethal meds and hope the person lives and the cancer dies. The parents are just looking for a less scary option. You cant blame them for that. My mother had breast cancer 10 years ago and did both mainstream and alternative routes. We can squabble about many issues all day but the most important question here should be why are we getting cancer so young? Are we eating Genetically Engineered foods, formaldehyde from walls/carpet/furniture/bedding, mercury in our fillings and or HFCS, MSG in are conventionally grown fruit, phthalates/pesticides in our drinking water, taking in growth hormones and antibiotics from meat dairy and fish, microwaving the nutrients out of our food, blocking the production of Vit. D thru our skin with toxic sunscreen and who can afford Organic food? Is it really organic if the air is polluted? But thats a topic for a different day. Or will the shareholders see that it isnt? I don’t think the law should make people take lethal meds and hope the person lives and the cancer dies. The parents are just looking for a less scary option. You cant blame them for that. My mother had breast cancer 10 years ago and did both mainstream and alternative routes. We can squabble about many issues all day but the most important question here should be why are we getting cancer so young? Are we eating Genetically Engineered foods, formaldehyde from walls/carpet/furniture/bedding, mercury in our fillings and or HFCS, MSG in are conventionally grown fruit, phthalates/pesticides in our drinking water, taking in growth hormones and antibiotics from meat dairy and fish, microwaving the nutrients out of our food, blocking the production of Vit. D thru our skin with toxic sunscreen and who can afford Organic food? Is it really organic if the air is polluted? But thats a topic for a different day. Or will the shareholders see that it isnt?

]]> By: Deb http://blogs.ajc.com/better-health/2009/05/26/should-courts-force-minors-to-have-medical-treatment/comment-page-1/#comment-698 Deb Wed, 27 May 2009 08:57:24 +0000 http://blogs.ajc.com/better-health/?p=423#comment-698 Whatever happened to the right to informed consent/refusal????????? Whatever happened to the right to informed consent/refusal?????????

]]> By: Winfield J. Abbe http://blogs.ajc.com/better-health/2009/05/26/should-courts-force-minors-to-have-medical-treatment/comment-page-1/#comment-696 Winfield J. Abbe Tue, 26 May 2009 21:15:27 +0000 http://blogs.ajc.com/better-health/?p=423#comment-696 Many years ago a distinguished professor medical physics, physiology and medical statistics at UC Berkeley, the late professor Hardin Jones, Ph.D., carefully studied the false statistics on cancer patients given the orthodox treatment of chemotherapy, radiation and surgery. He found that patients that didn't have any treatment at all, lived up to 4 times longer than those who received the failed treatment! Little has changed today. Here are some references to prove these statements: "The truth about hydrazine sulfate-Dr. Gold Speaks" by Joseph Gold, M.D., www.hydrazinesulfate.org. "American Cancer Society America's Wealthiest 'Non-Profit' Institution" by Samuel S. Epstein, M.D., International Journal of Health Services, 1999, also available at www.preventcancer.com. "The Hidden Story of Cancer" by Brian Peskin E.E. and Amid Habib, M.D., Pinnacle Press, Houston, 2006-2008. "The Cancer Industry" by Ralph W. Moss, Ph.D., Equinox PRess, N.Y., 1996, first published in 1980 as "The Cancer Syndrome". "CancerGAte 2005" by Samuel S. Epstein M.D., W.W. NOrton, N.Y., 2005. "Cancer and the Search for SElective Biochemical Inhibitors" by E.J. HOffman, CRC Press, Boca Raton, FL, 2007, 2nd Ed. "University FAils to Offer Another Viewpoint" by Winfield J. Abbe, Ph.D., www.annieappleseedproject.org. "Cancer and Vitamin C Therapy for Patients" by Reagan Houston, M.S, P.E., Townsend Letter for Doctors and Patients Aug./Sept., 2007 Many years ago a distinguished professor medical physics, physiology and medical statistics at UC Berkeley, the late professor Hardin Jones, Ph.D., carefully studied the false statistics on cancer patients given the orthodox treatment of chemotherapy, radiation and surgery. He found that patients that didn’t have any treatment at all, lived up to 4 times longer than those who received the failed treatment! Little has changed today. Here are some references to prove these statements:
“The truth about hydrazine sulfate-Dr. Gold Speaks” by Joseph Gold, M.D., http://www.hydrazinesulfate.org.
“American Cancer Society America’s Wealthiest ‘Non-Profit’ Institution” by Samuel S. Epstein, M.D., International Journal of Health Services, 1999, also available at http://www.preventcancer.com.
“The Hidden Story of Cancer” by Brian Peskin E.E. and Amid Habib, M.D., Pinnacle Press, Houston, 2006-2008.
“The Cancer Industry” by Ralph W. Moss, Ph.D., Equinox PRess, N.Y., 1996, first published in 1980 as “The Cancer Syndrome”.
“CancerGAte 2005″ by Samuel S. Epstein M.D., W.W. NOrton, N.Y., 2005.
“Cancer and the Search for SElective Biochemical Inhibitors” by E.J. HOffman, CRC Press, Boca Raton, FL, 2007, 2nd Ed.
“University FAils to Offer Another Viewpoint” by Winfield J. Abbe, Ph.D., http://www.annieappleseedproject.org.
“Cancer and Vitamin C Therapy for Patients” by Reagan Houston, M.S, P.E., Townsend Letter for Doctors and Patients Aug./Sept., 2007

]]> By: Winfield J. Abbe http://blogs.ajc.com/better-health/2009/05/26/should-courts-force-minors-to-have-medical-treatment/comment-page-1/#comment-695 Winfield J. Abbe Tue, 26 May 2009 21:02:26 +0000 http://blogs.ajc.com/better-health/?p=423#comment-695 Most Americans, including parents, judges and yes, orthodox medical doctors, are extremely ignorant about cancer, and the dismal failure of orthdox cancer treatment over the years in the U.S. If any medical doctor seeks to deviate from the failed recommendations of the orthodoxy, they can have their license revoked. So why would any of them have the guts to speak up on this horror story of institutionalized American medical quackery? It is like a child telling a lie to his parents and then covering the lie with more lies, over and over again for almost 40 years now since 1971 when the failed war on cancer began. According to a recent NY Times article, over $105 billion has been squandered, yet about one person dies every minute either from cancer, treatment or both, usually treatment. Just because the false statistics claimed by the doctors are 90%, does not mean the boy, if treated, might not be in the other 10% failure and die. But if he did, they surely would find some other excuse for the death than the failed chemotherapy to blame it on. A proper and objective autopsy is rarely made of cancer patients who die while under treatment. So they often falsely blame the cancer rather than the treatment. The judge has legal immunity and cannot be held responsible if he is wrong and the boy dies after having chemotherapy. Most Americans, including parents, judges and yes, orthodox medical doctors, are extremely ignorant about cancer, and the dismal failure of orthdox cancer treatment over the years in the U.S. If any medical doctor seeks to deviate from the failed recommendations of the orthodoxy, they can have their license revoked. So why would any of them have the guts to speak up on this horror story of institutionalized American medical quackery? It is like a child telling a lie to his parents and then covering the lie with more lies, over and over again for almost 40 years now since 1971 when the failed war on cancer began. According to a recent NY Times article, over $105 billion has been squandered, yet about one person dies every minute either from cancer, treatment or both, usually treatment. Just because the false statistics claimed by the doctors are 90%, does not mean the boy, if treated, might not be in the other 10% failure and die. But if he did, they surely would find some other excuse for the death than the failed chemotherapy to blame it on. A proper and objective autopsy is rarely made of cancer patients who die while under treatment. So they often falsely blame the cancer rather than the treatment. The judge has legal immunity and cannot be held responsible if he is wrong and the boy dies after having chemotherapy.

]]> By: Gregory A. Beamer http://blogs.ajc.com/better-health/2009/05/26/should-courts-force-minors-to-have-medical-treatment/comment-page-1/#comment-693 Gregory A. Beamer Tue, 26 May 2009 20:52:48 +0000 http://blogs.ajc.com/better-health/?p=423#comment-693 As the parent of a cancer survivor (one year post treatment), I cannot state strongly enough that parents should go with the evidence. As a parent, however, I believe that is our right. The problem with arguing that alternative treatments have not been shown to work is alternative treatments, overall, have not been tested scientifically. There are plenty of reasons for it not being studied. On the negative side is the profitability (food cannot be patented, so we have to artificially create the molecules to have any chance of recouping research dollars). One would think the government might fund more alternative studies, but the evidence that they do not is found on clinicaltrials.gov. Note that I am not against the doctors. I think they are wonderful. But until we can state definitively that the parents are abusing their child by refusing the injection of poisons into the body, I am not sure we have a legal basis for denying parental rights. What is even scarier is they are talking about strapping Daniel down to stop him from taking the lines out when he is undergoing treatment. Being strapped down and poisoned does not seem like a humane option, even if the science states a 95% cure rate. I am concerned that Daniel undergoing alternative treatment, and dying, will be seen as an indictment. If he undergoes treatment, and dies, he will just be seen as one of the 5% that did not make it. That is sad. I personally went with the odds in my daughter's cancer. Today, I would still do the same. But I cannot criticize a parent who chooses a non-quack type of alternative treatment, as there is anectdotal evidence that some alternatives work. Peace and Grace, Greg www.caringbridge.org/visit/mirandabeamer As the parent of a cancer survivor (one year post treatment), I cannot state strongly enough that parents should go with the evidence. As a parent, however, I believe that is our right.

The problem with arguing that alternative treatments have not been shown to work is alternative treatments, overall, have not been tested scientifically. There are plenty of reasons for it not being studied. On the negative side is the profitability (food cannot be patented, so we have to artificially create the molecules to have any chance of recouping research dollars). One would think the government might fund more alternative studies, but the evidence that they do not is found on clinicaltrials.gov.

Note that I am not against the doctors. I think they are wonderful. But until we can state definitively that the parents are abusing their child by refusing the injection of poisons into the body, I am not sure we have a legal basis for denying parental rights.

What is even scarier is they are talking about strapping Daniel down to stop him from taking the lines out when he is undergoing treatment. Being strapped down and poisoned does not seem like a humane option, even if the science states a 95% cure rate.

I am concerned that Daniel undergoing alternative treatment, and dying, will be seen as an indictment. If he undergoes treatment, and dies, he will just be seen as one of the 5% that did not make it. That is sad.

I personally went with the odds in my daughter’s cancer. Today, I would still do the same. But I cannot criticize a parent who chooses a non-quack type of alternative treatment, as there is anectdotal evidence that some alternatives work.

Peace and Grace,
Greg

http://www.caringbridge.org/visit/mirandabeamer

]]>