College football 2010: The good and the bad

The SEC has won its fifth straight BCS national championship. Auburn has won its first national title since 1957. And the argument continues: What if  No. 1 Auburn (14-0) played No. 2 TCU (13-0) on Saturday to settle the national title? We’ll never know.

The incredible thing about a college football season is that in July and August, it just feels like it will never start. Then, once it does, it seems to be over in a couple of heartbeats.

I will always remember the 2010 season because it gave us both the good and the bad that is the game of college football in the 21st century.

You know the good. The game, as it is played on the field, has never been better. Every week there was a new, dramatic story line. Every Saturday there was something that made us go “Wow!”:

**–Oct. 2: For about 90 seconds in Baton Rouge, Tennessee had apparently pulled a stunning upset at LSU. But on what appeared to be the last play of the game, Tennessee’s defense had 13 men on the field. LSU got one more snap and won.

**–Oct. 9: South Carolina upsets Alabama, the defending national champions, to beat the No. 1 team for the first time in school history.

**–Nov. 26:  It was a Friday that we will never forget. Auburn rallies from a 24-0 deficit at Alabama and wins a game for the ages, 28-27. Then, in the wee hours of Nov. 27, Nevada ends Boise State’s dreams of playing for the national championship with a field goal in overtime.

I could go on and on. College football is so good now that we EXPECT to have these unforgettable moments week after week. The game rarely disappoints.

But we also had a chance to see college football’s dark side. This is the side that threatens to undermine the long-term credibility of the game with the public that loves it so:

**–The academic scandal at North Carolina that forced the school to suspend as many as 13 players. It turned an ACC championship caliber team into one which was lucky to finish 7-5.

**–Agent gate: One bad decision by one of the game’s premier players (A.J. Green), basically wrecked Georgia’s season. An agent throws a South Florida party for underclassmen because the benefit far outweighs the risk. This problem is not going away. It is only going to get worse if something doesn’t change–and quickly. Unfortunately, the NCAA doesn’t do much of anything quickly. They need to open up the proccess and get these kids talking to agents much earlier in their careers.

**–In June there was the money and power grab that was known as conference expansion and realignment. When it was over the Big Ten had 12 teams, the Big 12 had 10 teams, and the Mountain West had lost its three most high-profile programs: TCU (Big East), Utah (Pac-10), and BYU (Independent). The Pac-10 almost talked Texas into leaving and destroying the Big 12. It was an ugly thing to watch.

**–USC got hammered by the NCAA in the summer and Reggie Bush eventually gave back his Heisman Trophy.

**–While Cameron Newton’s play on the field was magnificent and deserving of the Heisman Trophy, the entire case involving his father was bad for college football. Legally, the NCAA had no choice but to let Newton play based on the facts (or lack of them) in evidence. But this loophole needs to be closed before another season comes around. The guardians of the sport had better hope that no more damning information comes out about this case. We watched USC vacate a national championship and its star player give back a Heisman Trophy. College football does not need another body blow like that.

**–And then there was the Ohio State ruling, which suspended five players for selling stuff given to them by the school. But the NCAA allowed the suspensions to start after they played in the Sugar Bowl. Critics jumped on the NCAA and college football because it appears both are making these rules up as they go along. The ruling made no sense unless you believe Ohio State’s claim that their players had not been instructed on the rules. I don’t.

There was also tragedy:

**–Student photographer Declan Sullivan was killed when the scissor tower where he was filming Notre Dame’s practice collapsed.

**–Eric LeGrand of Rutgers suffered paralysis in a terrbile injury against Army.

**–Mississippi State defensive end Nick Bell lost his battle with cancer. He was only 20 years old.

So again, it was a good season and it was a bad season. Mostly it was a tough season.

The hard edge to the Cameron Newton debate was disturbing. The kid almost lost everything because the father. The Newtons got lucky. The next kid whose father gets caught doing this won’t be so lucky. Parents who act like agents in the future (and get caught) will not be happy with the result.

The nastiness of the BCS debate is disquieting. I want a four-team playoff or a true plus-one, where two teams are picked after the bowls. I believe college football will need to made a change in the post-season format when the current BCS contract expires after the 2013 regular season. The debate has always kept interest high in college football. But I think we are reaching a tipping point where the debate is so destructive that it hurts the game.

In many ways it was another great season but in many I’m glad the season is over. I don’t remember feeling that way too many times.

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572 comments Add your comment

jeff

January 14th, 2011
8:17 am

Gumby

January 14th, 2011
8:23 am

Well I guess the Cam Newton thing will blow over now and be swept under the rug since he declared for the NFL. I guess Daddy said the money is too good, go pro.

Dawg_Mike

January 14th, 2011
8:25 am

Don’t forget Eric LeGrand of Rutgers. Remarkable story….

jeff

January 14th, 2011
8:27 am

I still like the idea of a bigger Big 10 and a bigger Pac 10 (12?) Utah could make some noise in the Pac 12. Col. probably will take time to develope and of course TCU to the Big east is going to be fun. Could TCU win the Big Least? Remember when Miami joined the ACC. They would DOMINATE! I do not remember seeing the U in any of the Championship games so far, have you?

Too many kids getting hurt. Something should be done. I know it is a hard contact sport but the kid at ND never should have been up there. The Rutgers kid, however is another story. What, if anything, could be done to help keep that from happening?

TCU could beat Auburn. That is why none of the BCS leagues would want it to happen. Think about it like this. If TCU wins the Big Least next year and ends up taking on Utah (possible Pac 12 Winner) what would the BCS powers say then. Only when they join a real conference could they get a shot at the title?

Fun Season. Can not wait until it all starts again.

JaxDawg05

January 14th, 2011
8:27 am

The stench from this year in college football won’t go away for a LONG time. The NCAA has painted them selves in a corner with this years rulings.

Dick the ex-Weasel

January 14th, 2011
8:28 am

I want apologies from everyone who was sure that all of the OSU players would turn pro. And no comments about how they knew they’d be taken low (or not at all), their talent hasn’t changed since your comments came out.

Arch Dawg

January 14th, 2011
8:30 am

There is no loophole to close, well except for the one specifically opened for Cam Newton. If you can’t admit that the NCAA and SEC bent the rules to allow the best player in college football to keep playing then I’ve got some ocean front property in Tennessee to sell you.

RomeDawg

January 14th, 2011
8:31 am

The Good: Seeing a local take over as HC at a major university, even if it is the hated Gators. Andrew Luck staying another year!

The Bad: The Cam Newton saga. The thing some parents will do to their children. Isn’t his dad a preacher? The Lord does work in mysterious ways! A J Green leaving for the NFL.

The Ugly: Nick Fairley’s play ALL year. Way to prove how justified our complaining was by trying to rip someone’s head off in the NC game.

kudos

January 14th, 2011
8:32 am

kudos to jeff for being first (1st?)

RomeDawg

January 14th, 2011
8:33 am

Oh yeah, the NCAA showing money was more important than morals by letting Ohio State let 5 players play in bowl game. That is bad on so many levels. Money rules college football, bottom line!

Later Vacated

January 14th, 2011
8:33 am

The Auburn mess continues to be sordid. Shame on the War Eagle and all the facilitators.

Steve

January 14th, 2011
8:34 am

Tony, I just don’t buy the A.J. Green suspension basically wrecked Georgia’s season. Ineffective coaching and the 2010 Fulmer Cup are much bigger factors that have a sustaining impact.

Hopefully, the NCAA will somehow mature and be relevant.

ARdawg

January 14th, 2011
8:35 am

This year it became obvious that the BCS and the NCAA are the same Cartel. The SEC, Slive and Barnhart receive their orders from the Cartel.

Barnhart is a Gomer

K.Kardasheeun

January 14th, 2011
8:35 am

Has Newton returned his Heisman yet?

Black Coffee & Bourbon

January 14th, 2011
8:39 am

It was a good season, full of highs and lows. I enjoyed watching the games on Saturdays and not having to worry about “real world” problems for a couple of hours. I had fun ribbing those in my family who pull for the Gators (Go Noles!) The conference championship games were interesting but to be honest I only watched a few of the bowl games. I agree with you Tony that the BCS/Playoff argument is becoming destructive. A plus one would appease most. Anyway, looking forward to 2011.

Dawg_Mike

January 14th, 2011
8:44 am

@ Steve-
I agree. wreck the season? Not exactly. While it did not help, here are the real season wreckers-

poor play calling
ineffective O line
Ineffective running game
ineffective defense
off the field issues
lack of passion and intensity from coaching staff
no contact in pre season practices
ineffective strength and conditioning program

I could go on but no need……

Jakeau24

January 14th, 2011
8:44 am

UGA fans should worry about themselves, their stale coaching staff and their declining program rather than Cam and Auburn. If we had your talent we could go undefeated again!! Cam is as clean as that national championship trophy in our case!!! At least Fairley will not be back to put your QB out again!!

Dawg Man

January 14th, 2011
8:46 am

Thanks Tony, Good perspective to end the season. Sadly for me the bad of this season outweighs the good by 2 to 1. Unfortunately, I feel we haven’t heard the last of the Cecil and Cam Newton pay for play scandal. IMHO I think more damning information will come to the surface and will rob Auburn of its NC, numerous scholarships, and ultimately it’s future

Hobnailbooty

January 14th, 2011
8:46 am

As a UGA fan the bad was UGA. Better fix it soon!!!

Redneck 61

January 14th, 2011
8:48 am

Georgia = CRYBABYS I have never seen anybody cry more than ga fans.When yall lose yall blame everybody but Richt fire him so you can have a wining team again.Ga is just wasting time next year without AJ GREEN you will suck again and you can cry again and blame everyone but richt.Next year SC will win the east and ga will suck again.

JB

January 14th, 2011
8:49 am

Best thing about 2010….The season is over and the Dawgs won’t have the pressure of trying to score a touchdown again……

@Jakeau24

January 14th, 2011
8:49 am

You have blinders on buddy… The Newtwons are far from clean… Tony, why no comment on the recent Newton information at the BCS game?

Grim Reaper

January 14th, 2011
8:51 am

Still laughing my arse off about FSWho at number 4 in early 2011 picks, better than the Wayan brothers, C’Rock, or any of any number of comedians out there. Yeah, got any more standup routines to last me through the rest of the waiting till OU thumps the Indians in Trailer’hassee by fifty next year? Hahahahahahahahahah

JB

January 14th, 2011
8:52 am

Redneck 61…… If you are a Carolina fan, you are so Correct to use the word ” Suck” in a sentence, because for 100 years, that has been what Carolina football has been all about.

Dillinger

January 14th, 2011
8:53 am

Disgraceful, totally disgraceful. From the power play conference shake-ups, to the poor officiating, and especially to Cam Newton, Auburn and their many apologists, it was a truly shameful year for college football. The asterisk should already be on this season.

Thuga

January 14th, 2011
8:53 am

Fairley did not try and rip the guys head off. He pushed his helmet as he got up. The announcers said it was stupid but not dirty. His driving QBs into the ground is not against NCAA rules. Buck Belue said it best,” if Fairley were a bulldog, they would consider him a rock star”. I cannot recall a season where fans have whined as much as thuga fans have this past season. What a bunch of pathetic losers! War Eagle!!!! 2010 National Champs!!! 3 undefeated seasons since 1993!!! Thuga???????

Mock Richt

January 14th, 2011
8:53 am

Good: Cam’s play on the field, Andrew Luck, TCU showing class

Bad: Too much to list, but Cam scam at top

Ugly: UGA’s season

#1BamaFan

January 14th, 2011
8:55 am

First of all…congratulations to all of the Auburn Fans. I, as an Alabama fan pulled for Auburn all of the way and I am proud of them. The Cam situation will come to light when the Victoryland and/or Lowder Bank allegations go to court. All of the wire taps will then be public record because the FBI could care less about the NCAA. RTR

Bull Meacham

January 14th, 2011
8:55 am

Terrible season. Hotel gate at S. Carolina. Rainey stalks a woman and plays. AJ out 4 games for selling jersey he makes popular. Bama suspension, Ohio St , and topping it all off the scandal at Auburn and NCAA /SEC looking the other way.
At least North Carolina did things the right way.
Other than that, its a mess.
AJ didn’t ruin UGA season. He didn’t not got for it on 4th and inches in a meaningless bowl. Fat O lineman and terrible coaching lost it for UGA.

MAJORPAYNE

January 14th, 2011
8:56 am

It amazes me the DAWG fans with continued whining over Auburn. What Auburn mess? What has Auburn been accused of? Nothing! All that remians is the jealousy of Auburn winning and turning it around. UGA fans need to be worried with the mess they have created in Athens. It is now Tallahassee North. Criminals running the program, no respect for the coaches or the University and uninspired play. Resorting to uniform changes and Soulja Boy, shows a program that is desparate.

You may hate the way Nick Fairley plays but UGA has had those players for years, but not now, and would love to have him transfer. The difference is you saw the players at Auburn play with heart and insipration. Being down in so many games showed a team that was well coached and confident. With all the talent in Athens, the players could be called the cowardly lions, they have no heart.

Shug

January 14th, 2011
8:56 am

Tony, though you seem to be a bit of a company man, I have to ask: If and when all the Cam Newton facts come to light, will Auburn be subject to the death penalty? It has a history of violations, and it pretty much flaunted the whole scandal and dared the NCAA to do something about it.

JB

January 14th, 2011
8:58 am

The biggest winner in 2011…. The IRS……..Will now get a W-2 from Cam going forward and taxes will be collected. Help pay down that debt Cam…..And thanks for those construction jobs your Dad provided by repairing the Church………..Obama thanks you…..Cecil Newton, providing shovel ready jobs……..

Dawg Man

January 14th, 2011
8:58 am

Yep possible SMU type death penalty. Again just my opinion

bwkdawg

January 14th, 2011
8:58 am

@Redneck 61 Carolina has one lucky season and now they’re some sort of power house now huh. You don’t belive yall will come down to athens and beat us next year. Ga will win the east next year. You guys best season is a 5 loss season, cmon man.

Dr. Phil

January 14th, 2011
8:59 am

As an Auburn alum, I am glad that Newton is leaving. Auburn would not have won the NC without him, but his post-game cavorting and self-absorbtion were too much for anyone to endure. It is unlikely that Cam did not know what his father was up to, but suspecting that and proving it are two very different things. Newton was blessed by the NCAA, so he will likely keep his Heisman and NC ring. Next year, Georgia fans can focus on Mettenburger and hopefully forget about Newton and Fairley.

Virginia Dog

January 14th, 2011
8:59 am

I am a rabid DAWG fan that is married to an Auburn grad. With our sorry season the best thing for me this year was making the trip to Phoenix for the BCS Championship. I have to admit it was one of the best trips I have made in a long time. It felt good to be from the South and the SEC, especially when compared to the group from Oregon. The Auburn fans, which greatly outnumbered the Oregon fans, were fun and easy to be around. They partied hard but always respectful of Oregon fans that might wander by. No matter what happens in the Cam Newton saga, if Auburn has to give back the NC and Cam the Heisman, this trip and experience can never be taken away. The only thing that would have made it better is if UGA had been in the game…..maybe in my lifetime. Congratulations to Auburn on a great season and one last time….War Eagle!

Gator Mike

January 14th, 2011
9:00 am

Tony-good article and you are on target.
Observations:
1. I hope AU does not get hurt by Cecil Newton’s scumbag moves.
2. I wonder how many meanoingful credits Cam accrued in the classroom at AU in his 2 semester plus summer session tenure in school.
3. The AU Boosters were financially out bid by an NFL agent which is why Scam is “officially” going pro.
4. AU and college football are much better off in getting Cecil and Cam Newton in the rear view mirror.

Well, Tony...

January 14th, 2011
9:01 am

…I give you a hard time so now I have give you kudos – the topic was excellent and your review perspective right on target.

Having said that, I must add to the good – still having Furman Bisher chime in twice this year was heavenly to this reader…may he keep adding the occasional prose to this rag until they pry the Royal from his fingers…

And, the bad – you STILL ain’t no Furman Bisher, but at least you now recognize that…

kral

January 14th, 2011
9:03 am

you want a plus one or a football playoff 4..shame on you tony…still a beauty contest system…tell me why every d-1 conference champion does not deserve a shot at a national championship..would it not be great for every team to start the year and say to themselves..boys we win our conference we got a shot at it…Iam sure western kentucky appreciates their champ. sub crown…they were the 16th seed…Iam sure Seattle fans appreciate the pro system..college fb continues to exhibit more an more parity between the haves and the maybe don’t have…no what yyou offer is still the good old boy plan we got control..not the teams controlling their on destiny

JB

January 14th, 2011
9:03 am

Majorpayne…………You think Georgia people are the only ones talking about Auburn and Cam and Fairly………..YES, on this blog, but I’ve read hundreds of stories from all over the country about THOSE THREE TOPICS…..You hate Georgia, fine, but this is a national story, that Ain’t over.

wballs1977

January 14th, 2011
9:06 am

It’s a shame that insightful bloggers are hard to come by these days. I used to think that SEC fans provided the most depth and logic when talking about college football. After this year, that has changed. SEC fans, including most on Tony’s blog, are nothing short of fickle and hypocritical…and it is becoming quite obvious to those few SEC fans that know the game and aren’t afraid to admit defeat.

3rdN8

January 14th, 2011
9:07 am

As a Bama fan, I am proud of the Auburn TEAM. I hate that their season has had all of these distractions. The Newton saga resulted in the limelight being taken away from the 90+ players who did things right.

I’d love to see Newton return, because I think Bama can win even with him on the field…..and competition is what it should all be about. But part of me is glad that he’s gone. I’m just tired of this story.

DawginLex

January 14th, 2011
9:07 am

2010 will go down for me as the year where college football became dirty. A year where cheating was allowed and rewarded. Honesty cost you wins and possibly your job and the NCAA abused its power time and time again.

Not just college football, college basketball. Mark Emmert, the NCAA President and former President of the Univ. of Washington, has yet to explain how it was ok for Washington to recruit Enes Kanter and Terrence Jones, but the minute they decided to go to Kentucky, Kanter’s background came into question.

If Kanter had stayed at UW, he would be eligible right now. At UK, he is permanently ineligible.

Ohio State 5-A big joke
AJ Green-4 games-misuse of authority
Auburn-The biggest joke of them all

JB

January 14th, 2011
9:09 am

Waiting on 2012………………

Blue

January 14th, 2011
9:12 am

DawgMike: when he put “**–Eric LeGrand of Rutgers suffered paralysis in a terrbile injury against Army.”, I thought he WAS not forgetting Eric LeGrand of Rutgers.

Dawg Man

January 14th, 2011
9:12 am

Couldn’t say it better JB. It’s a national story that isn’t over yet. It would defy logic and common sense for the Cam story to be over now. What’s sad is Cam now will get an NFL contract and leave Auburn in the cold

JB

January 14th, 2011
9:14 am

3rdn8@9:07……………” As an Alabama fan, I proud of Auburn Team”………………Lord, there is hope For Israel and Palestine…. LOL

Dawg Man

January 14th, 2011
9:14 am

The loyal fans of Auburn which as a Dawg fan I think are mostly good people will wish they had never heard the name Cecil and Cam Newton once the smoke clears

Zebra

January 14th, 2011
9:15 am

The way many of the Tide fans acted towards Auburn was another low point. Those people are just disgusting in their hatred.

kral

January 14th, 2011
9:15 am

The bowl system is rich in history because that is the only history d1 oone has..but it’s been flawed since as early as I can remember…about 1963…now there are people trying you correct this flawed history..hope I live to see the day

Blue

January 14th, 2011
9:16 am

Yeah, Tony…cuz AJ was suspended when they lost to Colorado and Central Florida, right? They just couldn’t beat those teams without AJ.

wballs1977

January 14th, 2011
9:18 am

3rdN8 – it’s nice to read a decent comment from a Tide fan about Auburn’s season. I think many fans in the state of Alabama find it hard to admit jealousy for each other. I, being an Auburn guy, was extremely jealous of Alabama last year. How can anyone NOT be? Not only that, I was pulling for Alabama to beat Texas in last year’s game. It only makes for a better rivalry in the end.

I do also agree that it was unfortunate for the other players on the team that they had to go through the crap this year. However, Cam should also be included in the “90 players that did things right”. People continually think (and will continue to think) that he did something wrong simply because they can’t admit defeat. They can’t admit that their school simply didn’t measure up on the football field this year.

As a Bama fan, how did you take all of the comments last year that you guys were lucky champions? How did you react when everyone said that Bama would not have won had McCoy stayed healthy that game? It’s the same logic.

observer

January 14th, 2011
9:18 am

UGA fans just can’t let go of the Newton story, as if somehow that impacted their sorry team. The accusation was that the father “solicited” money from a couple of MS State supporters. Newton’s father admitted that. There is no evidence whatsoever that he ever got a penny from anyone. There is no evidence whatsoever that anyone associated with Auburn ever discussed money or gave money to anyone. So how did Auburn “cheat”, as you dumb dogs like to say? Regardless of your accusations, fact is, Cam Newton was the same age, just a college football player, and just as eligible as any of the sorry uga players. He just happened (along with the rest of the Auburn team) to be a hell of a lot better than your team. If his father got a million dollars that still had nothing to do with what happened on the field. I’m not an Auburn fan, but I’m willing to bet that even if nothing ever comes of the accusations, uga fans will still be talking about this 10-15 years from now.

JB

January 14th, 2011
9:19 am

All I will say Blue… Georgia was 1-3 w/o AJ and 5-3 with him.

Mitch Cumstein

January 14th, 2011
9:20 am

The bad for me as a dog fan was the sad state of coaching affairs that continues at our university. Why can Boise or TCU or Oregon for that matter, have terrific seasons with no-name one star rated players? Its coaching!! We have idiots calling plays in Athens!

Blue

January 14th, 2011
9:20 am

Dawg Man; the NCAA has said that they will NEVER again impose the SMU type death penalty (FYI…Alabama had ‘qualified’ for it some years back, which is when the NCAA said they weren’t going to do it again). You will NEVER see an ‘SMU type death penalty’.

Captbob

January 14th, 2011
9:20 am

The corruption inherent in Big time college football became evident for all to see in 2010. The SEC ignoring its rules to allow CN to play after the evidence became public that Cecil was bidding his son’s servies; the NCAA doing the same with it’s shameful 12 hour suspension and reinstatement of CN; finally the NCAA allowing the Ohio State players found guilty of rules violations to play in the bowl game, and start their suspensions next year (to save the bowl game )…all of these show that the NCAA and the SEC are not objective arbiters and gatekeepers of the game of football, but rather corrupt entities designed to further the money and power of their constituents, even at the expense of the rules they have established to supposedly keep the playing field level….Even the NFL is more honorable, in that they admit it is all about the money!

Blue

January 14th, 2011
9:23 am

JB, I’m not saying they are not BETTER with AJ…he is a stud and they clearly are better with him. But I don’t think it is genuine to say that it was the reason that the season was “wrecked”. The point I was trying to make was that even WITH AJ, UGA lost to 2 teams they had NO business losing to. And to me, that points out the other problems that DID lead to a poor season…fair enough?

JB

January 14th, 2011
9:24 am

observer…………….see my post @9:03…………….You are looking at this blog to much…..The Story on Cam and Auburn is one thousandth of one percent on HERE. IT’S a NATIONAL STORY with many Story lines, written about daily ALL OVER THE COUNTRY. YOU are reading a blog with 99% Georgia people on it….Can you understand that?

JB

January 14th, 2011
9:28 am

Blue, other problems? Yes, I don’t have the time to list them….Go back and read these blogs for the last two weeks if you want to see how Georgia people feel. We suck. We know we do. And we’re mad because it doesn’t have to be that way. If we had a championship type coach and could lock up the talent in this state, we would be in the hunt EVERY YEAR. REAL SEC fans know that. WE know it. It’s coming. Mr. McGarity, our NEW AD from Florida will see to it.

3rdN8

January 14th, 2011
9:30 am

@ wballs1977

I don’t get caught up in (or even understand) all of the “hate” rhetoric. I pull for my team on the field….period. Alabama, and Auburn (and judging by posters, virtually every school) has a faction of fans that take things too far.

I don’t have to hate Auburn, or Tennessee to consider them as bitter rivals. Rivalries are what makes CFB great, and I’m glad to see AU and UT do well.

But I totally disagree with you re: Newton doing things right. I think that guy and his family are cancers. I just hope that it doesn’t spread to the Auburn program.

Blue

January 14th, 2011
9:30 am

JB…I know, dude. I’ve read them. And from your posts, I know you see it too. Peace out…

JB

January 14th, 2011
9:30 am

captbob……………..well written

What's a d a w g?

January 14th, 2011
9:31 am

The worst part of the whole Cam thing was and is the hate and vitriol coming out of all you a-holes. I guess that should be expected from a bunch of losers, but it’s no less disgusting. Here’s a little well deserved salt for your wounds: 49-31! 28-27! 14-0. SEC Champions. BCS National Champions. War Damn Eagle!

G8R GRAD

January 14th, 2011
9:33 am

VA DOG:

I also am betrothed to a grad of AU and I agree: they are largely a well behaved and repectful bunch.
Congratulations to the Tigers on the Plains on a great game and a great victory: War Damn Eagle!
Incidentally, a plus-one this year would’ve been without Nweton at the helm: apparently, the kid played over two quarters with a fractured vertibrae!
Good luck to all this Spring and . . .

GO GATORS!

Paul in RDU

January 14th, 2011
9:33 am

A pretty good post by Tony with one glaring ommission – how Slive and the SEC did not inform the NCAA about the approach to MSU for Newton’s services for months.
And then we have this
“Unfortunately, the NCAA doesn’t do much of anything quickly.”
How quickly the NCAA does something depends how important it is as far as $ and TV ratings are concerned. The NCAA reinstated Cam Newton’s eligibility so quickly that nobody knew he had been declared ineligible. I am sure it was just a coincidence that it happened the week before the SEC CG

Snarky

January 14th, 2011
9:34 am

$EC and AUBURN are CHEATER$. NCAA has turned a blind eye to what’s been going on. I liked Auburn until I read, from independent writers, what has been going on for years. Read what terry Bowden had to say about regularly paying players.

Anyone outside of Auburn that thinks Scam didn’t know and that they didn’t actually take money is living under a rock.

It’s bad in that it taints the great game of college football.

travy

January 14th, 2011
9:35 am

the thing about ‘tipping points’ tb is that once you recognize them, they are already behind you. college football might not have until 2014 to change because it’s already bleeding out.

Snarky

January 14th, 2011
9:36 am

@What’s a d a w g?

Cheated and lied. And it’s still going on. Cheezik was a nobody coming in and Auburn fans were like WTH??? Who is this guy. And then he lands a top 5 class out of no where. Total BS.

You know it and everyone knows it.

kral

January 14th, 2011
9:37 am

no your right blue you lose your stud reciever, your runnig backs have a hard time being eligible to play or susp..you get close to a fg or td.. and turn it over..your great young qb..I believe..throws very few interceptions but some are very costly..your defense plays its best game of the year in the bowl and your off. can’t score…isn’t college fb great and frustrating.. you really can never predict what is going to happen

Follow the Money

January 14th, 2011
9:39 am

Money is being funneled to Auburn recruits through pastors/ministers and their churches. Hard to trace b/c NCAA has no suponea power and the IRS rarely audits religious organizations.

Press won’t touch story for fear of being accused of racial and religious bigotry.

1eyedJack

January 14th, 2011
9:40 am

I would like to see a pizza commercial where Michael Strahan tackles and body slams Nick Fairley.

kral

January 14th, 2011
9:42 am

that’s was funny jack

Asterisk

January 14th, 2011
9:42 am

It is fitting that Tony’s comments about Cam Newton/Auburn began with an asterisk, because that’s exactly what their season will always have beside it in the minds of most reasonable people.

JB

January 14th, 2011
9:43 am

To all on here who attack Georgia people for comments about Cam/AU……………..This blog is 95% Dawg fans in a Georgia paper……..Spend an hour reading Rivals Bama page For Fair and Balanced reading Coverage of AU/Cam…LOL………….This is basically a Georgia Chat room. 99% of Georgia season ticket holders do not even visit this site. Most are worried about our problems….and there are many…..Go Dawgs…..

NoGaGator

January 14th, 2011
9:43 am

I can understand the NCAA rulings with 1 exception – the Ohio State “let them play” ruling.

AJ got 4 games off for selling his jersey TO AN AGENT (does anyone really think $1,000 is fair market value for a SHREVEPORT BOWL JERSEY? If so, I have some swampland to sell to them.)

Cam Newton – they had to let him play unless they could prove that he knew about Daddy trying to pimp him. If the FBI has tapes on Lowder and Victoryland owner where “pay for play” was discussed, the truth will eventually come out.

Ohio State – this is where NCAA lost credibilty. Heretofore when someone gets caught, they pay the price from that point – not play a game and then pay the price.I have yet to hear a logical explanation for this one.

kral

January 14th, 2011
9:45 am

do you really believe what you just blogged..flm..by the way let me tell this great JFK conspiracy story I read on the inteernet….

wballs1977

January 14th, 2011
9:46 am

I don’t think you have to worry about this ‘cancer’ spreading since it is not connected to Auburn. And I would love for you to elaborate more on the things Cam did wrong while at Auburn? I can understand if you think Cam is a cancer – certainly given the mindset of many college football fans around the country – but saying he did things wrong is not a fair statement.

terry

January 14th, 2011
9:47 am

Tony, I don’t understand what you & Emmert keep talking about a loophole in the law that needs to be fixed & that the Newton situation is a tough one & complicated.

NO IT’S NOT. It’s simple. No one can shop a player whether they are a friend, parent or from Mars.
Nuff said.

Bill

January 14th, 2011
9:47 am

I imagine part of the reason (other than the money) Scam Newton declared for the pros is he knows further investigation into his and his daddy’s attempt to scam money from Miss State will result in Auburn’s record and title being set aside. That would be easier for him to take as a millionaire, rather than a disgraced Senior.

Jason

January 14th, 2011
9:49 am

Auburn fans, enjoy it as you’re not likely to see another title any time soon. Now you’re in the same boat as the rest of the SEC, rebuilding.

Dawg Man

January 14th, 2011
9:49 am

Blue- point taken

ckgator

January 14th, 2011
9:49 am

TONY – read the link to your story from the AJC sports landing page. “AJ Green was *suspensed*? I think the webmaster meant “suspended.”

Good article today – thx.

wballs1977

January 14th, 2011
9:50 am

Asterik – I am reasonable person and don’t think there should be an asterik by Auburn’s season. Perhaps UGA should put an asterik by theirs for letting a player who admittedly took benefits play during the season in which he was caught? Same thing right? Well, actually not…the UGA case was actually proven and UGA team itself was terrible.

Red Harrison

January 14th, 2011
9:51 am

The Under Armor (AU) vs Nike Bowl (OU)
The two biggest contributors $$ – Under Armour & Nike
Nawww, there’s no dirty money ruining college football….

I got news for you, Scam Newton went “Pro” two years ago, ’bout time he declared

3rdN8

January 14th, 2011
9:52 am

@ wballs1977

My opinion of Cam Newton is just that….an opinion. I have no proof that he did anything wrong…..nor do I care to have. All evidence as to his involvement with his father’s actions is circumstantial.

Juries are asked all of the time to judge guilt or innocence based on circumstantial evidence. In my case, I believe that Newton knew exactly what his father was doing.

But again…just an opinion.

JB

January 14th, 2011
9:53 am

One University paying a player, or family member to commit vs one that doesn’t is a very very unfair advantage in College football. Let’s hope it is not true…..

kral

January 14th, 2011
9:53 am

refresh my memory balls..I may have blacked that bad memory out

Dawg Man

January 14th, 2011
9:54 am

Folks defending Cam remember this—You can’t have smoke without a flame

JB

January 14th, 2011
9:54 am

Correction………….Not University, Someone with a vested interest in said University.

BAMA dude

January 14th, 2011
9:57 am

It was the derp-filled MNC game Tony. Watching the egregious mistakes on both sides left me thinking, “These are the best two teams in America? Really?” Odd year indeed.

Dawg Man

January 14th, 2011
9:57 am

True Dawg fans respect Cam because he is a elite player who wills his team to victory. There’s no jealosy or hate from me for Cam the player. It’s the skeleton in the closets that hadn’t came out yet that I don’t care for. Auburn was BETTER than everyone else this year, no problem saying that. It’s the truth

RCB

January 14th, 2011
9:59 am

One should not “hope” that facts are not revealed. This is to live the lie. Is there really no one who knows who made the donations to the church? Will Auburn just quit saying Cam Newton “did everything we asked him to do”? How does that statement answer the questons about what happenened and when certain people knew about it? I have a feeling Cam Newton and his father will not care what anyone thinks after he locks his NFL contract. I think Mr. Barnhart my be surprised by the identities of those who ultimately do reveal the truth. And when that revelation does come there will be no cause for sorrow, except for those who are unwilling to admit their faults and change their ways. Which side of that fence are you standing on, Mr. Barnhart?

BAMA dude

January 14th, 2011
9:59 am

3rdN8

January 14th, 2011
9:52 am
@ wballs1977

My opinion of Cam Newton is just that….an opinion. I have no proof that he did anything wrong…..nor do I care to have. All evidence as to his involvement with his father’s actions is circumstantial.

Juries are asked all of the time to judge guilt or innocence based on circumstantial evidence. In my case, I believe that Newton knew exactly what his father was doing.

But again…just an opinion.

I agree, but I’ll say again: the NCAA has never, not once in its history, punished a player or program if no extra benefits changed hands. I hope that never changes personally.

dap01

January 14th, 2011
10:00 am

I thought that CAM declared as a pro last year. He was paid as a pro last year.

Gator Mike

January 14th, 2011
10:00 am

JB – you are totally correct about the AJC being a Georgia paper which should cater to UGA and GA Tech. I believe that the AJC has the best Sports Section in the South, and since I am a Gator, I feel priviledged to be allowed to participate in the chatter which is often informative and always entertaining.
Good luck to your DAWGS next season.

3rdN8

January 14th, 2011
10:00 am

BAMA dude

Same could be said for Bama and Texas last year. I think the finality of the game makes teams tighter, and play with less abandon.

I’ve noticed the same thing in Super Bowls.

m

January 14th, 2011
10:00 am

Mark, the BC——-bcs has ruined college football. It has made all these bowl games MEANINGLESS. And it has crowned a fake champion.

Your support of the BS=====bcs shows you are a tool and a shill for the worst system ever developed by mankind.

JB

January 14th, 2011
10:01 am

Well well well……Just visited the Tennessee Message boards to check on their recruiting………………..It’s all about Cam and Auburn this AM…….Boy, didn,’t they play months ago…..or at all? Not a Georgia fan logged on but me….hum.

kral

January 14th, 2011
10:01 am

what do you expect bama dude..do not play for a month…to much time to think and lose continuity..and the year before..I know was beautiful for you,but it wasn’t exactly great football either

Red Harrison

January 14th, 2011
10:03 am

Auburn thinks like efficient engineers.
Its gonna be easy to change that sign “ALL IN”
to “ALL GONE”

You know it is.

kral

January 14th, 2011
10:04 am

a little harsh..but so am I at times..but i agree with some off what you said m and I want call you mm’s this time

Scott

January 14th, 2011
10:04 am

As an Auburn fan the only thing I am upset with in the Cam Newton situation is all the ’stuff’ has taken away from what a great player he is. Instead of comments about his talent people amuse themselves with plays on his name (scam – really clever) and other anonymous notes only the world wide web can provide. For me he is the best college football player I have ever seen.

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Regular Guys

January 14th, 2011
10:05 am

wballs1977: Your comment was well put, and respectful. However, I’ve got to disagree. You’re deluding yourslef if you think that Cam truly did nothing wrong. Doing nothing wrong and having the proof of getting caught are two different things. Ask OJ’s lawyers. What Auburn, their fans, and Cam have done is offer a “legal” argument, not an ethical one. That’s why the NCAA has already come out with its statements about needing to close loopholes, because what was done was unethical and wrong. One other thing, I’ve worked with teenagers for almost 20 years (youth pastor and public school teacher), I can honestly say that when kids are caught doing something seriously wrong, A LOT of them lie until it is proven otherwise. Unfortunately, that’s human nature. The common sense of adults has to see past those lies to reality in order to hold kids accountable. That’s exactly NOT what’s happening here. I’m afraid that this pattern is only going to continue into the NFL when he does something else and no one finally covers his tracks (aka: Michael Vick). Experience teaches us that kids in their twenties don’t let their parents make all of their decisions for them, and at the very least would want all the information possible on those decisions. Heck, juniors and seniors in high school don’t want their parents making all of their decisions. Cam knew what was going on. I once heard that the best indicator of future behavior is past actions. He threw the laptop out the window, he cheated on papers repeatedly, and with his career on the line, he’s suddenly telling the truth? That is a foolish argument. Auburn’s fans would be much more respected if they would simply come out and say, “Guys, you know what? Cam messed up. He obviously did somethin wrong, and we got away with it. The NCAA went easy on us, and we’re just going to celebrate our good fortune, and this championship for what it’s worth.”

gabriel

January 14th, 2011
10:06 am

aburn and the ducks game was great but i think they could have played better from what i have seen the both played with great offence but the first deffence that failed lost wich means ducks

JB

January 14th, 2011
10:06 am

Thanks Gator Mike……It really cracks me up and read people Jumping on Dawg fans about AU/Cam…….. Go read Tenn/Bama message boards this AM….It’s the rage……This is were Georgia people hang out……

JB

January 14th, 2011
10:07 am

s/b where…..whoops

Chris

January 14th, 2011
10:07 am

THE BAD: The bowl games! I barely watched a full game, and that was when my favorite team played. They are too watered down and don’t mean anything anymore. It’s time for a playoff. If not a playoff, finish the games by Jan 1.

wballs1977

January 14th, 2011
10:07 am

How many times have your been certain you just watched the best 2 teams in the country after the BCS game? Maybe three or four.

JB

January 14th, 2011
10:09 am

Scott……………There is no denying Cam is a great player. A once in a life time type for AU….Regardless of what happens, they won it on the field. Congrats.

Scott

January 14th, 2011
10:09 am

Regular Guys – We may say that when there is proof.

Why do people keep brining up a stolen laptop that was worth probably what he paid for it and cheating on a test (which, if true, someone broke a federal law by leaking that information)

Trust me, as an alumni of an SEC school, there are alot worse things going on.

Cam

January 14th, 2011
10:10 am

Family? What family? You mean those FOOLS in east LA?

ARdawg

January 14th, 2011
10:11 am

Bama dude

I agree. I sat watching the BCSCG and was thinking to myself, “neither of these look like a #1 team in the country.” It looked more like a sandlot football game than a national championship

3rdN8

January 14th, 2011
10:11 am

re: the NC game.

Other than the pressures of the game itself….I would have to agree with a lot of people about the time span between the end of the regular season (including SECCG for AU), and the NC game.

That was not the same AU team (especially Newton), that I saw play in Tuscaloosa. I didn’t see Oregon’s final regular season game, but am quite sure their fans are saying the same thing.

I once heard Bear Bryant say that getting a team prepared for a bowl game was the toughest nut he’d ever tried to crack. Are you listening….Steve Spurrier?

wes

January 14th, 2011
10:12 am

The 2010 season was a complete disaster. College football is becoming a joke. Compared to every other level of football – The BCS and the College Presidents have almost ruined the sport of D-1 football. D-1 College Football is now what I call “anti-sport.” It’s not TRUE competition – it hasn’t been for a long time and finally it’s good to see people are absolutely sick of this bowl season farce. Over 35 days between games? The BCS and the College Presidents and people like Tony Barnhart MOCK the TRUE fan of football who understands TRUE championships are decided on the f______ field! I am a Georgia grad and SEC fan; however, after another disastrous year of watching BS – I’m done with college football until they decide the champions on the field – like every other level of football. This is true sport – I saw the ratings were down for almost all the BS bowl games while the NFL ratings continue to climb. It’s because Tony, it’s real football – not some contrived plan by jackasses which deprives people of REAL competition and sport. College Football is a complete fraud – and the BCS and College Presidents along with their media friends continue to say “f___ you” America – we’ll do it our way – we don’t give a s___ what the fans think or want.

RxDawg

January 14th, 2011
10:12 am

Tony, by your article your impling that AJ went to that parth in Miami. As we all know, that is not the case. Rather while the NCAA was investigating they found out that AJ sold his jersey for some extra cash.

All in all, this was a pretty rotten season for this college football fan. The outright corruption and favoritism that has been shown this year makes me want to puke. I truly think the sport will be damaged for this. Notice that the BCS champ game was down in ratings by 15%? Yep, we saw this year that crime does pay. Cheaters win. It makes me want to switch to the NFL honestly. If I wasn’t so tied into my team being an alumni I’d of left college ball behind after this year.

wballs1977

January 14th, 2011
10:18 am

Regular Guys – I don’t think you’ll find an Auburn fan that thinks what Cam’s dad was legal or ethical. Your explanation around kids lying until getting caught being human nature might hold true for young kids and teenagers, but not young adults. Especially, young adults involved in a very serious business. However, I do appreciate your reasoning. I think the problem that I have (and other Auburn fans) is that people claiming to ‘know’ Cam was aware of his dad’s actions never elaborate on their particular opinion. Why do you think this way? Why do you think Cam knew what his dad was up to? It is because they are a close family? Is it because he is a dirtbag and needs money? Is it because he is simply a star athlete…and all star athletes are dirty? Is it because Auburn has been punished in the past, therefore, he must have been involved? Why? I just have a hard time thinking there is more than jealousy and perhaps a sprinkle of racism involved in these opinions since people never explain themselves.

Scott

January 14th, 2011
10:18 am

For all those saying this was a ‘rotten college football season’ how did your teams do?

Its comparable to those who jump on Cam Newton – If he was wearing a crimson jersey, silver britches or Tennessee Orange would you be saying the same things?

kral

January 14th, 2011
10:19 am

never have balls do not believe I am that good…but do agree with you all nc championships should have an asterik..no play no substance to the claim

kral

January 14th, 2011
10:19 am

play is playoff

3rdN8

January 14th, 2011
10:21 am

When I was a student at Alabama, ROTC was a two year requirement. We had to “drill” twice a week on the quadrangle. During one of those sessions, a small plane appeared over head, and leaflets came fluttering out. It was a cartoon. On the outside was a big elephant, staring down at a little eagle.

The elephant said: “bite my butt….bird!”

When you opened the cartoon up, the whole rear-end of the elephant had been chewed away. Everyone on the quadrangle cracked up. Good one Auburn. Now that’s a “Rivalry”!

I don’t know what my personal tipping point is….but I don’t like the direction that CFB is taking. Every year, it seems a little less enjoyable.

Red Harrison

January 14th, 2011
10:22 am

really, all college football needs now is Vince McMahon and a few monster trucks

and hey thats a win-in, they would gain audience share in Alabama

BAMA dude

January 14th, 2011
10:24 am

Scott

January 14th, 2011
10:18 am
For all those saying this was a ‘rotten college football season’ how did your teams do?

Its comparable to those who jump on Cam Newton – If he was wearing a crimson jersey, silver britches or Tennessee Orange would you be saying the same things?

To some degree you’re right. I said yesterday that the season seemed so strange because none of Bama, LSU, Texas, Florida, or Oklahoma were in the hunt. It’s one thing for Auburn OR Oregon to have a great year and make it, but both? Plus, PFP allegations or not, the whole one-and-done, hired gun, three-schools-in-three-years, criminal record Heisman trophy winner is a little strange too.

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ARdawg

January 14th, 2011
10:26 am

3rdn8

The BCS has become a monster. It is barking off orders and the NCAA and all it’s minions, Barnhart included are marching lockstep. College football as we use to know it I’m afraid, is over

3rdN8

January 14th, 2011
10:27 am

@ Scott

If Newton had played for Bama this year (and I’m glad he didn’t), I’d be saying the exact same things. Newton, and Auburn (as far as I know) are two separate, and distinct issues.

wballs1977

January 14th, 2011
10:28 am

Bama dude – yes, having a one and done Heisman winner was a little strange. But I guess for Auburn, winning a national championship after 50 years feels a little strange too. I think if you jumped on the college football bandwagon in 2003 your comment may make sense. But, having enjoyed college football my entire life (and seeing the likes of Nebraska, Florida State, Notre Dame and USC rule the world) I’ve learned that nothing is ever the same which is why the sport is so great.

STEINER

January 14th, 2011
10:28 am

MAJORPAYNE:
They gonna get you eventually…Just like they got ole Pat Dye when the player finally came forward and spilled the beans…Disappointed the SEC and NCAA bent the rules to get Cam on the field…The only thing they could come up with is that Cam didn’t know what dad was doing…Sir, 95% of the population ain’t buying that one…The NCAA found a loophole in its own rules which allowed him to play…They couldn’t find a loophole for Darius, AJ Green, and the boys at North Carolina…but when the best player in the nation is about to be taken out of the National Championship game, no way the NCAA was having anything to do with that…Then the NCAA lets 5 players from Ohio State play in the bowl game when they have just committed a major offense…Now the NCAA will go back in and want to clean up the “if the player don’t know what dad is doing, you can’t hold him responsible”. What a can of worms that will open up…But they let ole Scam slip through the noose on purpose, cause they didn’t want to mess up the NC game…will be watching how this turns out with interest…

kral

January 14th, 2011
10:28 am

Dam…Wes i wish I could have said that..loved it and believe it..but I still got to watch and listen to the Dawgs…it is in my..blood..bones..heart

UGAFan

January 14th, 2011
10:29 am

How much was Cam’s buyout?

Surely Auburn gets some of his salary back with him leaving early . . .

Old Dawg

January 14th, 2011
10:29 am

16 team is the only way to go when the BCS (Bowl Cussin’ System) dies. Take the conference champs, a few at large bids and let it roll. Teams with 7-8 wins go to bowl games. How simple can it be?

2010

January 14th, 2011
10:31 am

The year in which CFB died.

RIP

Too tough 44

January 14th, 2011
10:32 am

NCAA is a joke. What a dissapointment to witness that entity not doing the right thing all season long, not making the rules/penalties the same across the board. AJ Green, Ohio Players, the Bama Kid that actually did go to the s fla party, NC players…ea. penalty was different…they shouldve been the same across the board. As for the Newton case… well, lets just hope auburn gets to keep the Natl. championship. And him the Heisman…..time will tell.

3rdN8

January 14th, 2011
10:33 am

@ Old Dawg

I’m not sure how old an “Old Dawg” is. I know how old this Bama fan is. And I’ve resigned myself to the fact that I won’t see a sixteen team playoff in my lifetime.

Red Harrison

January 14th, 2011
10:33 am

What we learned from this football season – Touchdown Jesus and Scam should switch lives.

Tebow is a college player playing pro ball.
Scam is a Pro player playing college ball.

SECWasteManagement

January 14th, 2011
10:33 am

Best thing about 2010 is that it’s over. Now my liver gets a break since I don’t have to watch Georgia till next year.

yea right

January 14th, 2011
10:34 am

Tony, I have to be honest, I have a real sick feeling over this years season, mainly because of the NCAA. They are the most inconsistent bunch of folks I have ever seen, and that says alot considering I have spent 21 years in the military. First, they absolutely flabergast me with the 4 game suspension of Green and did not evern consider reducing it, then they suspend the end from Alabama for 2 games and he took more money that Green, where is the logic in that, except they wanted to make an example out of Green I guess. Then the whole Cam Newton thing, no way anyone can convince me that the NCAA did not prostrate themselves on the Bowl Alliance alter. And the Auburn fans who are so brash, remember the old adage, “he who laughs last, laughts the loudest. Good reporting Tony, I love your read.

BAMA dude

January 14th, 2011
10:35 am

3rdN8, I think that’s the difference. Based on what I’ve seen Saban wouldn’t have touched that kid with a ten-foot-pole, just based on the laptop business alone.

Big Al

January 14th, 2011
10:36 am

Zebra I guess the barn folks wearing Texas shirts last year was OK with you?

kral

January 14th, 2011
10:36 am

from one old dog to another could not agree more

BAMA dude

January 14th, 2011
10:38 am

wballs1977

January 14th, 2011
10:28 am
Bama dude – yes, having a one and done Heisman winner was a little strange. But I guess for Auburn, winning a national championship after 50 years feels a little strange too. I think if you jumped on the college football bandwagon in 2003 your comment may make sense. But, having enjoyed college football my entire life (and seeing the likes of Nebraska, Florida State, Notre Dame and USC rule the world) I’ve learned that nothing is ever the same which is why the sport is so great.

Oh, CFB is cyclical (or it was- now that the SEC is raking in ESPN money it may be less so), but there are normally a few programs ahead of the pack. Rarely do two “upstarts” make the big game. The “Clash of the Titans” or “David vs. Goliath” storylines tend to be more compelling. Just my opinion.

wballs1977

January 14th, 2011
10:39 am

I am an Auburn fan and pulled for the Tide last year vs. Texas. I think most sensible Auburn fans did the same.

3rdN8

January 14th, 2011
10:39 am

BAMA dude

agree re: Saban. I think he looks more at the long term effect on the program.

wballs1977

January 14th, 2011
10:40 am

Red Harrison
What we learned from this football season – Touchdown Jesus and Scam should switch lives.

Tebow is a college player playing pro ball.
Scam is a Pro player playing college ball.

That was dumb – but you probably think its funny. Cam never was paid, less you forget, which makes him a college player.

Scott

January 14th, 2011
10:41 am

As someone clsoe to the situation I can say with 100% authority that Cam Newton did not receive any extra benefits from anay assocatied with the University. If it makes you feel better to say that the title or the heisman will be taken away you must have a very sad life.

If you look at the facts – there was no ’shopping’ of Cam. A slime agent and his dad got together (no one know who approached who) and money was discussed. After MSU said ‘hell no’ (and didnt report it AND kept recruiting him) no other teams were approached.

RxDawg

January 14th, 2011
10:43 am

” Why do you think this way? ”

wballs, because innocent people don’t shut down and lawyer up.

BAMA dude

January 14th, 2011
10:43 am

3rdN8 and wballs1977, check out this article. It really is a funny read.

BAMA dude

January 14th, 2011
10:45 am

Scott, you don’t know squat. Quit pretending like you do. (Note: I didn’t say Cam or Cecil got anything.)

IF Cecil scored cash from a booster then very few people know about it.

Bob Johnson

January 14th, 2011
10:48 am

The Cam Newton story is not over. Chizick and the current Auburn leadership appear to be honorable guys, but they are surrounded by the cess pool of Auburn boosters to whom $200K in walking around money to buy a player is no big deal – people that Chizick is very familiar. Trips to Victoryland Dog Track and “Bingo” parlor produce cash winnings that are untraceable from slot machines and from “magical quinellas”. The owner of Victoryland is flush with cash and has a history of being very generous with making “gifts to worthy causes”. Even the FBI will be able to trace the initial outlay of cash from his desk drawer through his immediate minions and eventually to the faithful parishiners of the good Reverend Newton and his offering plate.

The difference between the Reggie Bush matter and the Cam Newton matter is that the FBI has been involved in investigating the operations of Victoryland for many years prior due to the bribery scheme Mr. McGregor is accused of orchestrating with the former Mayor of Birmingham and many state legislators. IMHO the only thing that kept the McGregor/Newton connection away from the NCAA investigators at this point is that the US Attorney and the FBI are going after bigger fish.

The Auburn Family is “All in” on Newton, and when you make a foolish bet you end up “out of the money.” By 2015, this perfect season will be transformed into something perfectly AUful. The Auburn family’s collective penis envy has finally caused them to make a serious mistake.

3rdN8

January 14th, 2011
10:51 am

re: circumstantial evidence.

One thing AU fans need to understand. IF there are credible sources that the NCAA believes….then penalties will follow.

Bama fans watched our program bottom out over an eight year period, because the NCAA: (1) “believed” that a booster paid money to HS coaches in Memphis to steer Albert Means to Tuscaloosa, and (2) “believed” that the proper control over said booster did not exist at the University of Alabama.

Nothing was ever proven in a court of law, but Alabama suffered the consequences nonetheless.

I truly hope that none of the Newton controversy spills over onto the Auburn program. But I do believe that AU has ventured out on a very slippery slope.

GTBob

January 14th, 2011
10:51 am

I have to agree with Captbob. Unfortunately this year will probably be remembered for all of the off the field stuff and less for on the field. The NCAA has shown they cannot be trusted in making major decisions, and the BCS continues to leave us unsatisfied. In my opinion, it wasn’t a great year for college football. Some great moments, but not a great year.

Red Harrison

January 14th, 2011
10:52 am

As a sign of solidarity with the people of economically ravaged south Alabama, Scam has agreed to take a pay cut by leaving Auburn for the NFL

MikeP

January 14th, 2011
10:53 am

Dawg Man
January 14th, 2011
8:46 am
“Thanks Tony, Good perspective to end the season. Sadly for me the bad of this season outweighs the good by 2 to 1. Unfortunately, I feel we haven’t heard the last of the Cecil and Cam Newton pay for play scandal. IMHO I think more damning information will come to the surface and will rob Auburn of its NC, numerous scholarships, and ultimately it’s future”

The only reason we haven’t heard the last of the Cecil Newton/ Mississippi State episode is that bitter UGA and bammer fans keep bringing it up.

Nothing is going to “come to light” because the investigations were over before December 2nd, when Cam Newtion was declared “eligible without condition”. Auburn has been accused of nothing, months of investigation resulted in a determination that no money changed hands between Mississippi State and Cecil Newton, and the issue is dead.

You haters need to accept facts and give up your wishful thinking. There will be no returning of trophies.

Cecil "Fig" Newton

January 14th, 2011
10:54 am

“The money too good in the NFL not even AU pays like that” – Cecil “fig” Newton

3rdN8

January 14th, 2011
10:57 am

BAMA Dude

That was a good article. I have several cousins in Michigan, and they can’t understand why I would pull for another SEC team in a bowl game. I explained, that you’d have to be a southerner to understand.

war beagle

January 14th, 2011
10:59 am

Does anyone have any news on who paid for the court side seats Cam used at the Lakers game?

Covers Dixie like the Dew

January 14th, 2011
11:00 am

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A four team playoff or a true plus one is a great idea.
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ARdawg

January 14th, 2011
11:00 am

For all intent and purposes the CamGate story is pretty much over. Don’t expect anything further to come to light on the actions of Cecil, Cam, Miss ST or Auburn. This is one that both the NCAA and the BCS want to go away and it will. They will see to it. That doesn’t mean nothing illegal happened, quite the contrary. College football being steered by the BCS is Mega-Money. Cecil’s $180K is but a drop in the ocean and it will not cast any soil on the NCAA or the BCS. Like it or not Cam is the BCS posterboy. He’ll be whicked away to the NFL and any inproprities will swiftly be eradicated

Tell the truth

January 14th, 2011
11:04 am

Do we know yet if Cam made the decision to go pro; or did the good reverend? Cam told two different stories about the decision to go to Auburn.

Cecil "Fig" Newton

January 14th, 2011
11:05 am

I guess Cecil’s picture was photo shopped with Cam at the end of the game. There is now way Cecil would not follow the agreement as explained by the AU athletic association. AU Family are a bunch of shameless LIARS.

O-me

January 14th, 2011
11:07 am

Same old BS…..I agree with Mike @8:44…enough of the Cam, AJ and Ohio BS..thats past crap, move on.

JB

January 14th, 2011
11:07 am

Ardawg….That’s my feelings also…….You will never here a beep….and if the FBI has something on wiretaps, I’m thinking they can not share that info with anyone, not even the NCAA…They are Not the Government.

3rdN8

January 14th, 2011
11:07 am

ARdawg

Disagree for two reasons: (a) For all of its faults, I think the NCAA has a vested interest in promoting the credibility of college football (although I can’t understand the OSU ruling), and (b) If there is a real story there, investigative reporting will keep it alive.

BAMA dude

January 14th, 2011
11:08 am

Yeah, MikeP, it’s all over.

Seems that two contractors (named and interviewed in the article) were questioned the week before Christmas.

A quote:

“NCAA spokeswoman Stacey Dobson declined comment, citing the NCAA’s policy of not commenting on current, pending, or potential investigations.”

Not that I care, but it’s only over in your mind.

JB

January 14th, 2011
11:08 am

that’s “hear” for you English majors….LOL

Money Too Good

January 14th, 2011
11:09 am

Yes, how was a court side seat obtained for the Lakers game obtained? Let me guess. Cecil is a season ticket holder for the Lakers so it was provided for by his family.

BAMA dude

January 14th, 2011
11:11 am

3rdN8, what purpose would it have served to sit the Buckeye 5 for the bowl game? Ohio St. was already going, they would still get the same money for going. So they may have lost- so what? The game was just an exhibition anyway. Better to make them miss games that matter from my view.

Skin-oh

January 14th, 2011
11:12 am

I glad Cam is turnining pro-er.
They got a great return on their money.

RxDawg

January 14th, 2011
11:14 am

Ardawg, I completely agree. Everyone keeps saying Auburn will get their due or wait till everything comes out. Naw, it’s done. The NCAA, SEC, and BCS doesn’t want that kind of egg on their face. Now that they made they’re decision they are going to do everything they can to make it go away. And in time, people will probably forget about putting effort into it. As I said in an earlier post, apparently crime does pay and cheaters win.

3rdN8

January 14th, 2011
11:23 am

BAMA dude

Don’t follow you on the OSU issue. Guess that I don’t see a BCS bowl as an exhibition.

It was just a very odd ruling. I’ve never known the NCAA to defer punishment. When it becomes known that a player committed an act that impacts his elgibility, the punishment (to my knowledge) is always immediate.

I read where the Sugar Bowl officials lobbyied for the deferment. Why should they have even been involved? That incident makes everyone look bad.

ARdawg

January 14th, 2011
11:23 am

3rdn8

To believe more will come of it, you’d have to believe that Cam didn’t know what daddy was doing wouldn’t you?

There’s nobody to do any investigative reporting. Those who have a soap box such as Barnhart won’t go against the BCS or NCAA. It is they who have everything to lose. BCS is big money in and of itself and for the NCAA. No way do they let Cam and Cecil interfere with that

war beagle

January 14th, 2011
11:25 am

If Cam did not pay for the Lakers court side seat, he would be ineligible and AU would have to forfeit the BCS championship game for playing a ineligible player. But if my aunt had gonads she would be my uncle. The NCAA/BCS is the most corrupt organization in sports.

ARdawg

January 14th, 2011
11:25 am

Rxdawg

I agree. The story has already lost it’s legs and by the beginning of next football season nobody will care

producewiz

January 14th, 2011
11:27 am

waiting for the NCAA to make smart decisions is like space time billions of years

Tell the truth

January 14th, 2011
11:27 am

war beagle I believe that both teams were at the basketball game.

ARdawg

January 14th, 2011
11:28 am

Bama dude

The reason they didn’t sit the 5 out is because both the Sugar Bowl and the BCS stood to lose money

Auburn Guy

January 14th, 2011
11:29 am

Hey Jason from 9:49. You better believe we will enjoy it. But, you and others act like Auburn people think we have some kind of “dynasty” or some silliness like that going on, tellling us that we had “better” enjoy it now. Almost sounds like a threat doesn’t it? We know we don’t have a dynasty. We had a good football team that happened to go all the way. Next year’s another story. If it makes you sour grapers feel better with your subtle threats then have at it. We’ll enjoy our great season and be thankful for it while you and yours deal with your insipid jealousy. War Eagle.

wballs1977

January 14th, 2011
11:31 am

Fine, but I wasn’t pulling for the Tide last year because of my love for the SEC. No, I do not chant “SEC, SEC, SEC” after a non conference victory. I simply a) can’t stand Texas and b) wanted my father in law to bask in the glory as a Bama grad.

I don’t care who pulls for Auburn or not. I just want people to clarify their opinions and challenge their own thought processes.

BAMA dude

January 14th, 2011
11:32 am

3rdN8

January 14th, 2011
11:23 am
BAMA dude

Don’t follow you on the OSU issue. Guess that I don’t see a BCS bowl as an exhibition.

But that’s exactly what all bowl games are except for the BCSCG; a season-ending reward for the teams and fans for a successful season. Making them miss out on crucial early-season games and come into the meat of the B10 schedule without any game reps for their QB, RB, and top WR is much harsher than missing a bowl.

3rdN8

January 14th, 2011
11:36 am

ARdawg

“To believe more will come of it, you’d have to believe that Cam didn’t know what daddy was doing wouldn’t you?”

It doesn’t matter what I believe, or don’t believe. As I posted earlier, it only matters what the NCAA “believes”.

The Reggie Bush ivestigation took what…..four years? That story was not front page news all of the time, but there were people working away behind the scenes.

I’ve never commented on the Newton story before, and I personally wish the whole thing would go away. But am quite sure that it won’t.

BAMA dude

January 14th, 2011
11:37 am

3rdN8, the main difference is that there is absolutely no evidence, including testimony, that Cecil actually got anything. That wasn’t the case in the Bush and Means cases.

blazer

January 14th, 2011
11:39 am

How about all the Service Academy teams going to bowls!! these are the guys to
signed up to protect us!!!!!

Bama Fan #2

January 14th, 2011
11:40 am

The only good thing for this Bama fan was beating the vols and Michigan St in the bowl game.
The bad just say Auburn National Champs and thats as bad as it gets for Alabama fans!!! RTR

Cam Newton

January 14th, 2011
11:40 am

I have no idea where my Dad’s money came from. He just told me to say that the church offerings had increased and that auburn was the best place for me. I am really close to my father but I do not know anything that he does.

Bye bye Auburn!!

January 14th, 2011
11:41 am

Just as I suspected, $cam bolted for the NFL because he is guilty. Just a matter of time before the NCAA says they have just “recently” uncovered new information

3rdN8

January 14th, 2011
11:41 am

BAMA dude

You’re right about the evidence made public so far, and I’m fine with that. I also believe the NCAA did the right thing in ruling Newton elgible to play….if they had no credible evidence to the contrary.

I just think (and it’s only a gut feel) that this is far from over.

Tell the truth

January 14th, 2011
11:44 am

Maybe no evidence yet- but it’s still early.

RussDawg

January 14th, 2011
11:45 am

The Bad; UGA at Colorado, UGA at MSU, UGA at, oh well you get it.
The Good; Lame Kiffen at USC and the NCAA actually did something.

ARdawg

January 14th, 2011
11:45 am

3rdn8

The difference in the Bush and Cam situations is that Cam’s came to light before the Heisman and BCSCG and Bush’s came to light after. For anything to come to light at this juncture concerning Cam and Cecil is going to put egg on the face of the NCAA and the BCS and bring their credibility into question. They will not tolerate that. Not to mention the Heisman committee doesn’t want or need another one returned this quick.

The NCAA and the BCS is the same as the NFL, NBA, MLB as far as marketing and jockeying for your entertainment dollars. It’s basically good business for CamGate to go away

BAMA dude

January 14th, 2011
11:47 am

ARdawg

January 14th, 2011
11:45 am
3rdn8

The difference in the Bush and Cam situations is that Cam’s came to light before the Heisman and BCSCG and Bush’s came to light after.

Well there’s that plus the fact that Bush’s parents, y’know, actually GOT something.

Chip

January 14th, 2011
11:48 am

Chizick will have plenty of cap room for NSD with Cam going to the higher paying league.

ARdawg

January 14th, 2011
11:48 am

3rdn8

We don’t know what evidence they had/have and likely we’ll never know. There is no where in the process that they reveal it to the public. We are to “just trust them”

Bob/ Okeefe

January 14th, 2011
11:48 am

Tony–no one seems to care to address Alabamas shameful practice of over recruiting kids.Grey shirting??????What ever happened to the scholar athlete.I also do not believe the Newton thing is over.I think the whole SEC needs to be investigated.There is certainly a funny smellcoming out of Denmark.

3rdN8

January 14th, 2011
11:48 am

I think most of us will agree that it would be better if the whole Newton mess went away.

Anything otherwise is bad for Auburn, bad for my home state, bad for the SEC, and bad for college football.

Richard

January 14th, 2011
11:48 am

The good: TCU winning the National Championship.

The bad: Brian Kelly keeping his job after a student died on his watch.

BAMA dude

January 14th, 2011
11:49 am

ARdawg, you’re getting dangerously close to tinfoil hat stuff.

Neutral Observer

January 14th, 2011
11:50 am

To the idiots on here screaming death penalty, it will never happen. First of all there has to be 2 major violations in a 5 year window, which AU does not fall into. Second, you have to prove that money was even discussed with Auburn and not just Miss. St. The jury is still out on that, but at this point AU is in the clear. USC and Reggie Bush was completely different. There was a lack of institutional control in multiple sports, and Reggie proved to have definitively known about the benefits being provided. Completely different from the Newton case.

ARdawg

January 14th, 2011
11:50 am

Bama dude

Are you conveniently ignoring that Cecil got something too?

BAMA dude

January 14th, 2011
11:50 am

Bob/ Okeefe

January 14th, 2011
11:48 am
Tony–no one seems to care to address Alabamas shameful practice of over recruiting kids.Grey shirting??????What ever happened to the scholar athlete.I also do not believe the Newton thing is over.I think the whole SEC needs to be investigated.There is certainly a funny smellcoming out of Denmark.

There’s a funny smell wafting off this board since you hit the “submit comment” button at 11:48.

Neutral Observer

January 14th, 2011
11:52 am

The worst that would come out of this would be Newton is declared retroactively ineligible and AU would maybe get probation and lose some scholarships. The NCAA already gave AU their blessing and they WILL NEVER take the NC away. It just won’t happen. As for the HEISMAN, it could be taken away possibly, but I highly doubt it at this point.

Geaux Tigers!

January 14th, 2011
11:52 am

I love college football but hate the NCAA. It’s all about money to them and it’s beginning to ruin the game.

This season was great though and I cannot wait until next year. Geaux Tigers!

BAMA dude

January 14th, 2011
11:52 am

ARdawg, what did he get? That’s the problem right now- there’s no evidence that he got anything. Bush’s parents were living in a mansion for peanuts. In the words of Rod Tidwell, “Show me the money!”

3rdN8

January 14th, 2011
11:52 am

Bob/ Okeefe

Glad you posted that. I didn’t realize the Alabama was the only school to oversign….in the whole universe. I also didn’t realize that we are the only school….in the whole universe….to grayshirt players…or to take scholarships away.

Damn….that Saban is one creative dude….invented all of that by himself.

ARdawg

January 14th, 2011
11:52 am

Bama dude

I am aware of the appearance of my tinfoil hat and conspiracy theory but, for me it’s one of the few things that actually make some sense of this whole clusterfack

ARdawg

January 14th, 2011
11:53 am

it’s not as much conspiracy as it is BIG BROTHER

BAMA dude

January 14th, 2011
11:54 am

Neutral Observer, USC has been stripped of the 2004 BCS title pending appeal. The meaningless-since-2002 AP poll will let them keep theirs, so there is that.

3rdN8

January 14th, 2011
11:55 am

Neutral Observer

Retroactive inelgibility occurred (plus vacating an entire season)at Alabama over the Antonio Langham case in 1994. He received nothing….he just entered into a contract with an “agent”, that was drawn up on a restaurant napkin.

Geaux Tigers!

January 14th, 2011
11:56 am

Enter your comments hereThe worst that would come out of this would be Newton is declared retroactively ineligible and AU would maybe get probation and lose some scholarships. The NCAA already gave AU their blessing and they WILL NEVER take the NC away. It just won’t happen. As for the HEISMAN, it could be taken away possibly, but I highly doubt it at this point.
__________________________________________

wishful thinking!!! the NCAA will pull that trophy from you guys in 5 years. count on it. Newton should have never been allowed to play once the allegations came out. if it comes out that no wrong was done, then I’ll admit that I was wrong for passing judgement.

jbirdawg

January 14th, 2011
11:57 am

Good article, Tony. Only problem I have with it is that maybe you should have started another paragraph after mentioning AJ. The next line makes it sound like he was involved in the Miami party and he wasn’t.

ARdawg

January 14th, 2011
11:57 am

Bama dude

there is much implication that he received cash and contracts for his trucking business. He was a one truck business that is now 11 trucks. Is it going to tie in to any of the FBI investigation, who knows? Unlikely I’d say. FBI has no dog in that hunt. Do you not agree that anything coming to light in CamGate is bad for business over at the NCAA and BCS?

Geaux Tigers!

January 14th, 2011
11:59 am

Wouldn’t Cecil Newton techinically be an Agent for Cam if he was asking for money? Goodbye Auburn national championship.

But as the oregon players said, we still lost on the field….

kral

January 14th, 2011
11:59 am

i had a player I took home from practice once..he was fine it seemed…later that night he was in the er suffering from heat stroke..I went to see him…luckily he was fine..my hs that I retired from had a great player receive a pass get hit and never get up..unless you write some evidence of abuse..your worse than your bad richie

BAMA dude

January 14th, 2011
12:02 pm

ARdawg, I get what you’re saying. That said, folks seem to forget who the “NCAA” is. It is nothing more than an association of colleges. Committees are appointed to establish and enforce rules by the member institutions. The committee that makes these decisions has nothing to gain or lose financially. To suggest that all of the other institutions would sit by and let the Barn get away with something because to do otherwise would be “bad for business” is a bit asinine to me. The outcry from some other conference officials, misguided as it may be, suggests otherwise. The committee that makes these decisions has nothing to gain or lose financially.

Spinoza

January 14th, 2011
12:03 pm

Tony, why continue the pretense that college football is anything other than a side money making activity for some universities, a money raiser among alumni for most, big business for television, and a conduit to the professional ranks. The concept of “student-athlete” is in general a joke. For every player like Alabama’s quarterback there are hundreds who would never gain admission to their universities if they couldn’t play football.

Those so in love with this sport or in Tony’s case it seems his reason for existence are blind to what it really is and how little it has to do with the real purposes of universities which are teaching and research.

jh

January 14th, 2011
12:03 pm

SEC went 5-5 on the bowl season. N Caroliana over Tenn and FSU drilled S Carolina

BAMA dude

January 14th, 2011
12:04 pm

Wow, I was redundant and said the same thing twice. I don’t usually do that and it’s not like me to do so.

Atlanta Gator

January 14th, 2011
12:04 pm

You know, I should just leave it alone . . . but, I can’t.

“The NCAA/BCS is the most corrupt organization in sports.”

Does that include the East German swimming & diving association? The North Korean soccer association? The Soviet Olympic Committee? The NFL Players Association? The World Wrestling Federation?

Words have meaning, and unlike the characters in Alice in Wonderland, the meaning of words is independent of what we mistakenly believe they mean. “Corruption” implies that someone is receiving improper benefits to jerry-rig an unfair outcome. “Corrupt” does not mean “I don’t like their decision” and “they treated my team more harshly than your team.”

The NCAA is not perfect. The NCAA sometimes makes mistakes, and it sometimes rules inconsistently based on the particular facts and circumstances. Sometimes the NCAA makes dumb decision based on political correctness. It is not, however, “corrupt” in a meaningful sense of the word. The NCAA’s investigative and enforcement arm is underfunded, undermanned and overworked, and it can only rule on facts in evidence, not on the opinions of rival fans. Believe it or not, it’s enforcement arm actually employs due process for accused institutions. Funny, though, how my institution always gets screwed by the NCAA, and yours gets off scot-free, isn’t it? I am, of course, being sarcastic. In the past 20 years, Alabama, Miami, Michigan and Southern Cal have all been on probation for various NCAA violations. That’s not a sign of favoritism; it’s a sign that the big boys get punished, too, when there’s evidence of wrong-doing. And so have numerous other programs been punished; and so they should have been.

And BTW, the NCAA does not run the BCS; the six major conferences do. So, if you don’t like the present BCS championship, take it up with the commissioners of the Pac-10 (12), Big Ten (+2), Big XII (X), Big East, ACC and SEC.

Bye bye Auburn!!

January 14th, 2011
12:05 pm

Auburn will receive the closest thing possible to the death penalty as soon as the NCAA decides to come clean with their findings. The fact that not a single person, including the COO, at Daddy $cam’s church can explain where the money came from is proof enough that Auburn paid the family. And Auburn’s arrogance and defiance over the past few months will force the NCAA to shut the program down if they wish to keep any good faith. And the fact they allowed the OSU players to participate in their bowl game during a season where two other players did the exact same things but were punished immediately will definitely force the NCAA to come down hard on Auburn.

Bye bye Auburn!!

January 14th, 2011
12:07 pm

@ jh,

Meanwhile, UGA still has the same amount of BCS wins as the entire ACC combined. Thanks for playing.

Ramma Bama

January 14th, 2011
12:08 pm

Auburn’s tainted title–bought and paid for by big auburn boosters who paid off cecil to get cam. Now cam’s heading to the nfl for those millions, laughing at all the auburn chumps who bought his act. He’ll be a bust in the nfl—too much partying like vince young.

Atlanta Gator

January 14th, 2011
12:10 pm

Oh, and by the way, you can rest assured that IF the FBI or any other source has any real evidence of any further meaningful NCAA violations by Cecil Newton, Cam Newton or Auburn, that the NCAA, liked the slow, but dogged organization it is, will eventually deal with it. If there isn’t any real evidence, all of this blog blather is a futile exercise in mental masturbation and wishful thinking by rival fans who simply want to rain on their rivals’ parade.

ARdawg

January 14th, 2011
12:10 pm

Bama dude

That’s true to a point. What you are overlooking is the fact that the NCAA is an entity with an office, with employees and a big cog in the money machine that is college athletics. What the NCAA was founded as and what it is today isn’t the same thing. It is the Sheriff, Jury and Judge and only answerable to the committee of University Presidents. It is a Beast and designed to morph that way, IMHO

Buckeye

January 14th, 2011
12:11 pm

Sugar Bowl Champs, 12-1, Top 5

Ohio State # 1 NCAA Basketball!

vs.

Liberty Bowl Losers to Conf USA, 6-7, Unranked.

Can’t hold a top 25 ranking.

All UGA has is to ride the SEC/Auburn/Bama/FLA coatails. UGA is SEC in name only.

3rdN8

January 14th, 2011
12:11 pm

@ Atlanta Gator

Your rant is very hurtful to those of us who live on hyperbole….ALL OF THE TIME….EVERY MINUTE OF EVERY DAY!!!

BAMA dude

January 14th, 2011
12:13 pm

ARdawg

January 14th, 2011
12:10 pm
Bama dude

That’s true to a point. What you are overlooking is the fact that the NCAA is an entity with an office, with employees and a big cog in the money machine that is college athletics. What the NCAA was founded as and what it is today isn’t the same thing. It is the Sheriff, Jury and Judge and only answerable to the committee of University Presidents. It is a Beast and designed to morph that way, IMHO

And those presidents would raise all manner of hell before they’d let the Barn skate for paying players. Rest assured, nobody’s hiding any evidence.

Geaux Tigers!

January 14th, 2011
12:13 pm

i would be embarrassed if I was an Auburn fan. Got tired of being 2nd tier to Bama, UF, and LSU so they had to buy the championship. i can’t wait to hear how much Fairley was paid to play at the barn. UH oh Auburn!!!!!

Atlanta Gator

January 14th, 2011
12:14 pm

Ramma Bama—-As if by magic, you appear to illustrate my point.

Please name the “big Auburn boosters who paid off Cecil to get Cam.”

Please identify the amount or amounts of money paid, the dates on which it was paid, and the medium (i.e., cash, check, money order, wire transfer, etc.) by which it was paid.

Oh, wait, you can’t provide those simple bits of information? Then, sir, you are full of @#$%.

ARdawg

January 14th, 2011
12:14 pm

Bama dude

Until it interferes with the revenue stream, that is correct.

Frank Derrickson

January 14th, 2011
12:15 pm

Plus One won’t work.

Your plus one game of TCU v Auburn is a fantasy. If we had a plus one Oregon would have played Wisconsin in the Rose Bowl and Auburn would have played someone maybe Ohio State in the Sugar Bowl. Assuming they both won they would have played each other in your “plus one” national championship game. So the reality is that things would probably have worked out just as they did. Then people would be whining for a plus two. Ask Vernon Jones.

ARdawg

January 14th, 2011
12:15 pm

Am I the only one who believes Buckeye to be retarded?

kral

January 14th, 2011
12:15 pm

very astute atl gator..no sarcasm intended…….just goes to show..there are to many generals in college football..and the championship as all other championships should be under the NCAA

Atlanta Gator

January 14th, 2011
12:16 pm

3rdN8—-

Yeah, I’m a real a@#hole. I’m sorry.

QR

January 14th, 2011
12:16 pm

It’s all President Bush’s fault…..

BAMA dude

January 14th, 2011
12:18 pm

ARdawg, that’s what you don’t get. The SEC has the most revenue. Their putting two teams in the BCS every year keeps schools in other conferences from making money. If an SEC school is cheating, they would absolutely want everyone to know about it.

3rdN8

January 14th, 2011
12:18 pm

@ Atlanta Gator

I happened to be sitting in a pew, at a small, black, church last summer. Toward the end of the services, and large man, wearing an orange shirt, came in the back door. When the collection plate was passed, he placed a large canvas bag on top of the plate. It took three ushers to carry it to the church’s office.

I’ve never told anyone about this. My wife thinks I should contact someone. Is she right?

BAMA dude

January 14th, 2011
12:19 pm

I mean the other conferences would want people to know.

DIT

January 14th, 2011
12:21 pm

As a Dawg person, I’m so tired of the Cam Newton and Nick Fairly talk. It’s over, let it go. I personally don’t care and not since the UGA/Auburn game ended. I’m more worried about what direction my team is headed and if they will ever get to an elite status in the SEC again.
I say Congrats to Auburn. I was pulling for them. I believe if the roles were reversed most Auburn people would have pulled for UGA. Have to admit, there are way too many whiners on here about Cam & Nick. It’s over, let it go. Whining about it will not do anything more for the situation.

Atlanta Gator

January 14th, 2011
12:21 pm

“Auburn will receive the closest thing possible to the death penalty as soon as the NCAA decides to come clean with their findings.”

Wrong.

Even if the Auburn program were guilty of every thing every idiot rival fan on this blog had accused AU of, AU would not be eligible for the NCAA’s “death penalty’ because AU has not been on NCAA probation within the required time window.

Duh.

kral

January 14th, 2011
12:22 pm

ole buckshot..your right aboout our season,but you can’t say UGA is SEC in name only unlees you wish to make broad assumptions or comparisons

Atlanta Gator

January 14th, 2011
12:23 pm

QR—-

Of, course, it’s ALL George W. Bush’s fault. But remember, he’s working with the Illumnati. You don’t REALLY think Bush was smart enough to pull this off on his own, do you?

Avatar of Snarkiness

January 14th, 2011
12:24 pm

The common denominator in all of these scandals- M-O-N-E-Y.

The players are’nt stupid. They see their coaches make millions,they see the schools take in millions more and they see the “heavy hitter” boosters call the shots in the biggest programs and they wonder where their slice is.Room,board and tuition ain’t gonna do it for much longer because everybody is sharing the gravy except the gravy makers.

Tony, I don’t know if you are familiar with baseball history,but the same type sitaution led directly to a scandal that almost wrecked the game. I’m referring to the “Black Sox” scandal after the 1919 season in which underpaid players,working for a wealthy owner decided to take tainted money from gamblers to throw World Series games (against Cinncinati).

Now. We’re not there yet. But by the time that a group of players ( Or a key player like a quarterback) sells out a game or a season to get their hands on some spending money,a page of history will have turned and things will never be the same. Remember the revulsion we all felt at Cecil Newton pimping his own son ? We’ll all feel that way about every program when players feel that they have to “do a little bit of business” to get their hands in the cookie jar.

The NCAA wants to have it both ways- they want to maintain the illusion of amateurism without chasing away the commercial parasites that exist around the edges ( $600,000 “Non profit” Bowl Directors,anyone?) and the players know it. It makes it almost irresistable when an agent whispers in a players ear that EVERYONE is getting rich,so why not get your share?

Bye bye Auburn!!

January 14th, 2011
12:24 pm

You know something is up when your two best players in FOOTBALL are one and done

wballs1977

January 14th, 2011
12:25 pm

gayeux tigers,

It took 2 years of coaching Fairley to develop him into the player he was this season. Not sure why Auburn would pay for that.

Happy to say my squad won the championship by actually winning. How does it feel perched up on the 1st tier with 2 championships won despite losing 3 games? Impressive. Your 2 championship teams would not have cracked the top 5 this season.

3rdN8

January 14th, 2011
12:25 pm

re: conspiracies…in general.

They only work…and usually for a short period of time….if only a few people know. That’s why I agree with BAMA dude. The other schools would come off the hinge if this was common knowledge.

Same goes for paying all of the players. Do I think some players are paid? You bet. But to think that it’s a widespread practice is laughable. Somewhere, sometime, a player would get upset, and spill the beans. There is no way things of this nature would go unreported, and uninvestigated for an extended period.

Atlanta Gator

January 14th, 2011
12:25 pm

3rdN8—-

Many stranger things have happened in black churches, but they usually involve Democrat Party get-out-the-vote efforts.

MikeP

January 14th, 2011
12:26 pm

war beagle
January 14th, 2011
10:59 am
“Does anyone have any news on who paid for the court side seats Cam used at the Lakers game?”

Why, yes we do. Both teams were provided their seats by the Fiesta Bowl people. Look around that picture a bit and you’ll notice the entire Auburn and Oregon teams were there. See how easy it is when you ask?

Bye bye Auburn!!

January 14th, 2011
12:26 pm

Buckeye,

The only people that will give your shameless program credit for FINALLY barely defeating an SEC team in a bowl (a team UGA nearly beat as well) all live in Ohio. There will forever be a HUGE asterisk next to that game.

DIT

January 14th, 2011
12:27 pm

@Atlanta Gator

Many stranger things have happened in black churches, but they usually involve Democrat Party get-out-the-vote efforts
_____________
No that’s funny and true right there

wballs1977

January 14th, 2011
12:27 pm

Bye Bye Auburn – when bloggers refer to other ‘idiot bloggers’, they are talking about you.

Fairley played 2 seasons at Auburn and is projected to be the no.1 pick in the draft.
Cam Newton played possibly the best season of any player in the history of the game, won a Heisman Trophy and NC…and is projected to be a 1st round pick.

Why would either of these two players remain in college? You suck.

kral

January 14th, 2011
12:27 pm

sounded great avatar..by the way do you know any blue 8 ft. tall women with a tail I have been dying to meet one ever since I saw the movie

Atlanta Gator

January 14th, 2011
12:29 pm

“You know something is up when your two best players in FOOTBALL are one and done.”

Yeah, two consensus All-Americans decided to cash in their chips and make guaranteed millions of dollars in the NFL. That’s a real crooked move on their part.

dawgfan

January 14th, 2011
12:31 pm

Tony, what about Nick “Hitman” Fairley and his dirty play this season? He was too immature emotionally to handle all the double teams that came his way the second half of the season and took it out on defenseless QBs and RBs. Truly great players do not react the way that he did. As much criticism as he has received this year I still think he’s getting a free pass. Everyone acknowledges that he’s a dirty player (except Barners of course) but few ask WHY he’s a dirty player. The guy has an attitude problem and probably won’t last in the NFL. Watch and see.

3rdN8

January 14th, 2011
12:31 pm

@Atlanta Gator

I forgot this was an election year. The democratic party colors are in fact orange and blue. I looked it up.

Atlanta Gator

January 14th, 2011
12:32 pm

“Bye Bye Auburn – when bloggers refer to other ‘idiot bloggers’, they are talking about you.”

Primus inter pares.

Atlanta Gator

January 14th, 2011
12:33 pm

“The democratic party colors are in fact orange and blue. I looked it up.”

“Orange and blue,” eh? You might want to double-check that.

ARdawg

January 14th, 2011
12:35 pm

Bama dude

I do not believe integrity is atop the priorities list at the NCAA

Absolute power corrupts absolutely.

Money is still the biggest game in town and college athletics

ARdawg

January 14th, 2011
12:38 pm

The Gomer’s filter won’t let me say what I want and nothing is potty mouth

3rdN8

January 14th, 2011
12:38 pm

In defense of the SEC.

After Bama and MissState spanked their Michigan opponents, I had many discussions with my relatives up there. Some are MSU, and some are UM fans. They all acknowledged that the SEC just has better athletes than anyone else. They also…all…added this little tidbit. These same athletes could never pass the entrance exams to a Big 10 school.

I responded by asking: then why are you all down here recruiting them? I guess they become stupid after they enroll in the south.

Atlanta Gator

January 14th, 2011
12:38 pm

“Absolute power corrupts absolutely.”

Yes, but the NCAA doesn’t have anything like “absolute power” over anything.

Bye bye Auburn!!

January 14th, 2011
12:39 pm

wballs,

Fairley was a nationally ranked OL coming out of high school that played both ways. He was hardly a nobody that Auburn that just randomly and magically found.

RP

January 14th, 2011
12:40 pm

As for tragedy, everyone needs to remember the shooting victims from Southern Miss.

3rdN8

January 14th, 2011
12:40 pm

@ Atlanta Gator

I just made the orange and blue thing up. We all know the Democratic party is red.

Atlanta Gator

January 14th, 2011
12:40 pm

ARdawg—-

I got caught by the blog software filter for trying to write about “the Evil Genius’ Gamec@#$s” yesterday. I’m sure you’ll figure it out.

Atlanta Gator

January 14th, 2011
12:42 pm

3rdN8—-

Yes, but I’m still trying to figure out who was the funny man working for which network that reversed the colors for election night news coverage.

Bye bye Auburn!!

January 14th, 2011
12:42 pm

3rdN8,

Don’t you just love the universal Yech spin? Just like how Yech goes after about 90% of the same players that UGA does, the same goes for all the Little 11 programs as well. Many a thug has come out of the Little 11 and Pac-10 alike. It’s just sour grapes from the bitter fans of loser conferences.

Atlanta Gator

January 14th, 2011
12:43 pm

“Fairley was a nationally ranked OL coming out of high school that played both ways. He was hardly a nobody that Auburn that just randomly and magically found.”

First reasonably intelligent thing you’ve written.

bamaguy

January 14th, 2011
12:44 pm

It seems the entire season was more about what happened off the field than on and we discussed controversy on these blogs more than big plays. Arrests, agents, trips to Miami, ebay, bar fights,suspensions, special privileges, court appearances, NCAA investigations,and the big one, a reverend trying to sell his son to the highest bidder.

3rdN8

January 14th, 2011
12:45 pm

@ Atlanta Gator

I’m actually color blind, so I missed that one. pretty funny though.

Bye bye Auburn!!

January 14th, 2011
12:47 pm

@ Atlanta Gator,

That software you are referring to is the AJC’s “idiot filter.” It only attacks the morons that pollute this blog with filth and incompetence. Best take the hint, chief.

BAMA Guy

January 14th, 2011
12:48 pm

Tony, you are wrong about the NCAA not ever acting quickly. They put Cam back in the game after only 24 hours on the bench. Other than that one amazing exception, you probably are right.

Hunker Down

January 14th, 2011
12:52 pm

Great piece of work TB. Thanks for the memories!

wballs1977

January 14th, 2011
12:54 pm

bye bye

regardless of how regarded Fairley was out of high school doesn’t make your statement about him being one and done any less false. most importantly, the fact that you deem Fairley and Cam’s decision to go pro this season “fishy” should disqualify you from blogging ever again.

Hunker Down

January 14th, 2011
12:54 pm

Atlanta Gator,

Thanks for the info on the democratic colors of orange and blue. I can only hope and pray the Republican Party is Red and Black.

bamaguy

January 14th, 2011
12:55 pm

Cam Newton declaring for the draft is non-news. He couldn’t stay at Auburn and risk the NCAA investigation turning up something that would make him ineligible to play some or all of his senior season. And I doubt that any student who turned in two plagiarized term papers like he did at Florida is going to actually pass senior level courses and earn a degree.

MikeP

January 14th, 2011
12:56 pm

bamaguy
January 14th, 2011
12:44 pm
“It seems the entire season was more about what happened off the field than on and we discussed controversy on these blogs more than big plays. Arrests, agents, trips to Miami, ebay, bar fights,suspensions, special privileges, court appearances, NCAA investigations,and the big one, a reverend trying to sell his son to the highest bidder.”

——————————————————————————–

Well, you missed on the last part. A former Mississippi State player tried to buy a reverend’s son and the father made the mistake of listening, however briefly. Since there was no mention of money on Cam’s recruiting trips to Oklahoma, Tennessee or Auburn, it appears that the money talks started and stopped with MSU’ s Kenny Rogers.
I understand that the simple answer ruins all the internet fun, but there it is.

Atlanta Gator

January 14th, 2011
12:57 pm

Hunker Down—-

I think you need to re-read the thread. I was quoting some one else, and gently questioning that person in an ironic, light-hearted manner.

Mike

January 14th, 2011
1:00 pm

The Bad: Being an Alabama graduate married to an Auburn graduate. Listening to a continual relay
of WE are FAMILEEE after each Auburn win. Paying $1400 per ticket not including
Air fare.

The Good: Stubhub offering a full refund plus additional $2666.00 per ticket buy back

The Great: To quote the Newton’s The money was just too good.

3rdN8

January 14th, 2011
1:00 pm

@ Atlanta Gator

I had no idea you were a chief. I’ll be more respectful in the future.

Atlanta Gator

January 14th, 2011
1:00 pm

“I doubt that any student who turned in two plagiarized term papers like he did at Florida is going to actually pass senior level courses and earn a degree.”

Cam Newton’s problems with two allegedly plagiarized team papers at the University of Florida has never been confirmed by a credible, on-the-record source.

Atlanta Gator

January 14th, 2011
1:02 pm

Indeed. All of my fraternity brothers called me “Chief.” Probably because they couldn’t remember my real name. LOL

Atlanta Gator

January 14th, 2011
1:03 pm

“plagiarized team papers”

Oops. Freudian slip.

3rdN8

January 14th, 2011
1:03 pm

Well….we didn’t talk much football today, but enjoyed most of the conversation anyway.

Everyone have a good one.

Atlanta Gator

January 14th, 2011
1:03 pm

That isn’t the “real” me.

I’m not that kind of A$$HOLE.

Must be an Aubie using my handle.

MikeP

January 14th, 2011
1:04 pm

bamaguy
January 14th, 2011
12:55 pm
“…..I doubt that any student who turned in two plagiarized term papers like he did at Florida is going to actually pass senior level courses and earn a degree.”
————————————————-

Please inform yourself. Three legitimate news sources had debunked Thayer Evans’ lie about Cam Newton cheating at Florida.
Since I have posted those links four times on this site and it appears nobody reads them because it spoils the fun, I won’t do it again.
The three sources are the Houston Chronicle, The Gainesville Sun and Yahoo sports. Google to your hearts content, or continue to spew lies, which seems to be the theme of this year.

war beagle

January 14th, 2011
1:04 pm

3rdN8
January 14th, 2011
12:38 pm

I responded by asking: then why are you all down here recruiting them? I guess they become stupid after they enroll in the south.

Please argue Harley and Newton would have gained admission to Michigan or for that matter UGA. Then the fun will begin.

Atlanta Gator

January 14th, 2011
1:05 pm

Mike—-

We all make compromises with She Who Will Not Be Disobeyed.

war beagle

January 14th, 2011
1:06 pm

I can’t get anyone to answer this question:

Who paid for Cam’s court side seat at the Lakers games. Those tickets go for about $1500 per game. If Cam did not pay, he was ineligible and a forfeit is on the way.

Atlanta Gator

January 14th, 2011
1:07 pm

Uh, war beagle, you need to check your facts.

Mark Richt heavily recruited Cameron Newton. And the University of Florida SAT scores are higher than UGA’s.

MikeP

January 14th, 2011
1:07 pm

Only Cam Newton himself refused to publicly deny the charges.

That’s a little strange, but I don’t care — I’m ALL IN!

MikeP

January 14th, 2011
1:09 pm

war beagle

January 14th, 2011
1:06 pm

I can’t get anyone to answer this question:

“Who paid for Cam’s court side seat at the Lakers games. Those tickets go for about $1500 per game. If Cam did not pay, he was ineligible and a forfeit is on the way.”

Your question has been answered three times. Read back! The fiesta bowl people supplied the tickets for both entire teams to attend the game.

MikeP

January 14th, 2011
1:11 pm

Middle school must be on lunch break. I see that the 14 and under crowd is back here using other’s names again. I wish the AJC would fix the software to stop the juveniles from doing this.

Jeff

January 14th, 2011
1:11 pm

Lets continue to talk about how the NCAA and SEC condones a cheater if they are from the BARN or Ohio State…..lets talk about how the coach of the BARN condones players that try to injure other players…..lets talk about what a piece of crap we have running the SEC……sick of it all……

war beagle

January 14th, 2011
1:12 pm

The fiesta bowl people supplied the tickets for both entire teams to attend the game.

Funny how all the players but Cam were in the upper deck. Who provided Cam the extra benefit of sitting in a $1500 seat, while the rest of the players sat in the ‘commoners’ area?

MikeP

January 14th, 2011
1:12 pm

war beagle

January 14th, 2011
1:13 pm

Atlanta Gator
January 14th, 2011
1:07 pm

Uh, war beagle, you need to check your facts.

Mark Richt heavily recruited Cameron Newton. And the University of Florida SAT scores are higher than UGA’s.

What about after “Jr college”. Check da facts.

DC

January 14th, 2011
1:13 pm

hahaha war beagle was holding on to those courtside seats for a way for AU to forfeit the season…

PS this blog is not really good today…alot of spammers on…not many quality debates going on…

Cam Newton

January 14th, 2011
1:13 pm

Just one thing to say to all of my adoring fans: SUCKAS!!!

DC

January 14th, 2011
1:14 pm

Jeff…guess who condones chop blocking…..

Atlanta Gator

January 14th, 2011
1:16 pm

war beagle—-

I guess Mark Richt already had enough tight ends for the 2010 football season.

= )

jumbeauxtiger

January 14th, 2011
1:17 pm

Initial Bodog.com odds for the 2012 BCS national championship:

Oklahoma 7/2
Alabama 15/2
Florida State 10/1
Boise State 12/1
LSU 12/1
Oregon 14/1
Florida 15/1
Nebraska 18/1
Penn State 20/1
TCU 20/1
Ohio State 20/1
Texas 20/1
Stanford 25/1
Virginia Tech 28/1
Wisconsin 28/1
Notre Dame 30/1
Oklahoma State 30/1
West Virginia 30/1
Arkansas 30/1
Texas A&M 35/1
Michigan State 40/1
Auburn 50/1
Miami 50/1
Mississippi 50/1
Mississippi State 50/1
South Carolina 50/1
Georgia 50/1
Iowa 60/1
Missouri 60/1
Cincinnati 75/1
Michigan 75/1
North Carolina 75/1
California 100/1
Clemson 100/1
Pittsburgh 100/1
South Florida 100/1
Tennessee 100/1
Utah 100/1
Arizona 100/1
BYU 125/1
Oregon State 125/1
Texas Tech 125/1
Washington 125/1
Arizona State 125/1
Georgia Tech 125/1
Kansas State 150/1
Boston College 150/1
UCLA 150/1
Field 10/1

3rdN8

January 14th, 2011
1:17 pm

Here’s Newton’s offers coming out of JUCO. I guess UNC has really lowered their academic requirements.

http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/recruiting/player-Cameron-Newton-95471

3rdN8

January 14th, 2011
1:21 pm

jumbeauxtiger

I was leaving, but your list caught my eye. If I’m reading that correctly, it means that there is a 10/1 chance that someone in that list will win the NC.

I manage my wife’s 401k, and other investments. She’s out of town at the moment. Who should I call?

The Ghost of Wally Butts

January 14th, 2011
1:22 pm

Go Thug-Dawgs…defend the CUP, win that 2011 FULMER CUP!!

Mike

January 14th, 2011
1:23 pm

I used to really like that song “We Are Family” I swear if I hear it again I will hang myself with dental floss. Excellent point though Gator.

3rdN8

January 14th, 2011
1:25 pm

Mike

Both of my sons, and one daughter-in-law are AU grads. Forget the dental floss…..it’s not strong enough….but I did lose a tooth.

Ramguy

January 14th, 2011
1:27 pm

I don’t think the question is could TCU beat Auburn. The question should be could TCU beat Ala, Ark, SC (twice), Ga, Miss St and LSU in the same year. Auburn did and I don’t think TCU could. Could Auburn beat (teams in TCU’s conference that they beat this year) Wyoming, New Mexico, UNLV, BYU, Air Force and Utah? You bet they could have. It’s so simple it’s stupid.

Atlanta Gator

January 14th, 2011
1:28 pm

Dental floss is for sympathy-seekers. Piano wire is for those who want to get the job done.

Atlanta Gator

January 14th, 2011
1:30 pm

Gold star for Ramguy @ 1:27 pm.

jumbeauxtiger

January 14th, 2011
1:33 pm

3rdN8, “the field” means any team not on the list has 10/1 odds. I believe there’s 50 listed so that means to win one of the other 70 schools not listed would have to win the BCS.

A few years ago I placed a bet while in Vegas and took the field against Tiger Woods in the Masters. If anyone but Tiger got the Green Jacket I would have won. Of course Tiger won the tourney :(

You better hold on to your wife’s money :)

3rdN8

January 14th, 2011
1:33 pm

“Dental floss is for sympathy-seekers”

As Lou Holtz would say….”Yeth it ith”.

3rdN8

January 14th, 2011
1:35 pm

jumbeauxtiger

I’m so glad I asked….I was getting nowhere with my penny stock portfolio, and that looked like a real winner.

ARdawg

January 14th, 2011
1:41 pm

Atlanta Gator

January 14th, 2011
12:38 pm

“Absolute power corrupts absolutely.”

Yes, but the NCAA doesn’t have anything like “absolute power” over anything.

ATL Gator

That’s where we’ll have to disagree. NCAA is absolute power over all they survey. They also have the ability to manipulate any individual university or collective universities they choose. The NCAA is a governing board with maximum authority in college athletics. Do you know of any instances where universities do not follow their directives or rulings?

This Past Year

January 14th, 2011
1:44 pm

- My belief is C. Newton is guilty as sin. I will never believe he didn’t know what his father was up too.

- It couldn’t have been much of a season with a lot of teams having “down” years when Auburn wins the NC.

- And I AGREE, I’m really glad the season is over.

how2fish

January 14th, 2011
1:50 pm

Tony great article, I’m sure there will more to the Auburn/Newton story well into next year but I’m hoping I’m wrong. Thanks for all the work during the year !

Au82

January 14th, 2011
1:51 pm

Gosh THUGA fans…now that Cam and Nick are gone, what will you whine about???…you might have to spend a few seconds whining about your own irrelevant program.

Oh, I take that back. When Ray Drew and Isiah Crowell commit to Auburn in a couple of weeks you can start whining and calling in the FBI, the NCAA, and the Pope to figure out why two future NFL players would want to play for the National Champions instead of the Liberty Bowl losers.

I remember last year in Athens when THUGA barely beat a very mediocre Auburn team (yet acted as if they had just won the National Championship), a THUGA fan said to me after the game “That Guz Malzahn offense will never work in the SEC”…ROTFLMAO now.

Oh and by the way, for the THUGA who is about to come back and say “1-4 in the last five years”…well, I guess that is THUGA math for you as we did not start this series 5 years ago. Auburn leads the all time series and it looks like we are about to start increasing that lead.

War Eagle!!

Bye bye Auburn!!

January 14th, 2011
1:52 pm

wballs,

I may be wrong about how long Fairley has been on Auburn’s campus (I believe I read he started a couple of games in the ‘09 season) but I am still correct with my assumption as to why they are both leaving. $cam is bolting before the terds hit the fan with his recruitment, and because I’m sure he’s tired of signing his name on tests that his tutors are probably taking for him. Same with Fairley in that regard.

jumbeauxtiger

January 14th, 2011
1:52 pm

Good article Tony and thanks for another season.

I also hope that there will be a 4 team playoff. It would only add one extra game by seeding 4 teams using the BCS bowls.

gdawginkalamazoo

January 14th, 2011
1:53 pm

Has Terrell Pryor declared for the draft yet? Deadline is approaching.

Sad season for the clowns at the NCAA. Barnum and Bailey will now preside over college football.

Good luck to Cam in the NFL don’t blow all that bonus money in one church.

Yes Ramguy, Barnhart should use that post next season. I am sure Les Miles will if LSU is pushing for a bid with one loss. .

Rix

January 14th, 2011
1:53 pm

when the NCAA strips Auburn of their national title in the coming months, shouldn’t they do the same with OSU’s Sugar Bowl win? They allowed cheats to play for both programs.

DC

January 14th, 2011
1:58 pm

Rix,

Where are you getting your facts to make such a strong statement? Or are you just be one of those fans who says extreme statements to make a point…

Top Recruit

January 14th, 2011
1:59 pm

Very good article Tony! I enjoyed reading it. Thanks.

And Georgia high school football, along with the Dawgs and the rest of the SEC will be here before we know it. Great game with outstanding players and coaches. Fun to be a part of, irregardless of whether it is good, bad, or tough.

gdawginkalamazoo

January 14th, 2011
1:59 pm

I would bet 3rdN8’s wifes portfolio that if anything comes out against Auburn in the Victoryland /Colonial transcripts/cases it won’t involve just Cam.

LOL

January 14th, 2011
2:03 pm

“I remember last year in Athens when THUGA barely beat a very mediocre Auburn team (yet acted as if they had just won the National Championship),”

Kind of like your fans acted this year after beating a terrible UGA team!

dawgfan

January 14th, 2011
2:07 pm

Well Au82, we won’t have to worry about pieces of trash like Fairley taking cheapshots at our QB anymore. That’s a relief. He can do that in the NFL where his behavior this past season would have gotten him hundreds of thousands of dollars in fines. And I really doubt we’ll have to worry about Auburn scoring 49 points without Cam. Nobody will be talking about Auburn football in 2011. Hell, nobody really talked about Auburn football this past season. It was the Cam Newton Traveling Circus from day 1. It was like Auburn didn’t even have a football team. They just had Cam Newton.

Something stinks about your football program and you better pray to Cam Newton that nobody finds out about it. That’s all I’ve got to say.

One Two Thress

January 14th, 2011
2:09 pm

Yo Cam…I need my money bro. Ya cheating fool.

Jakeau24

January 14th, 2011
2:11 pm

@Jakeau24 reply. What, the report that his dad was at the game? Are you kidding me? Is that all you have? Yes, a dad went to watch his son play in the National Championship game. Big deal. Auburn could not make him not attend. I don’t blame him for going.

One Two Thress

January 14th, 2011
2:13 pm

Yep something does stink about AU…the truth will come out eventually. The whole world figured out AU Jamz Brokks could not read and he “graduated” from AU. The truth will come out eventually. Pateince.

Rix

January 14th, 2011
2:14 pm

“Strong statement?” It’s called a question. Didn’t think it was possible to ask such a “strong” question….

Jakeau24

January 14th, 2011
2:15 pm

Dawgfan: How many personal fouls did Fairley have this year? Four! One against uga too which was the correct call. How many arrests has uga had this year……..? Your program is on the decline so worry about it instead of Auburn. Glad Richt kept the staff intact too. Reminds me of Tubs last two years.

DC

January 14th, 2011
2:20 pm

dawgfan,

Is that why we (Auburn) beat Oregon when Cam was basically ineffective? Get over yourself..stop crying about AU beating you all late November…you think anyone cares about UGA right now? check your recruits…and check your “potential” recruits to come…I think AU is having a blast taking recruits away from you…

huh?

January 14th, 2011
2:20 pm

All the commentators IMMEDIATELY began making excuses for Boise when they announced to play UGA next year by crying about how much “talent” they will be missing, and it won’t be a “real” Boise team UGA faces to begin the 2011 season. Well if that’s true, then why are they already in the pre-preseason top 5 poll, while UGA isn’t even in the top 25?

BAMA dude

January 14th, 2011
2:22 pm

Good luck to Cam in the NFL don’t blow all that bonus money in one church.

We have a nominee for Best in Show, ladies and gentlemen…

DC

January 14th, 2011
2:22 pm

Rix,

You started with a statement. “when the NCAA strips Auburn of their national title in the coming months”…that is what i was referencing…which I will say again…strong statement..

BAMA dude

January 14th, 2011
2:24 pm

DC

January 14th, 2011
2:20 pm
dawgfan,

Is that why we (Auburn) beat Oregon when Cam was basically ineffective?

Ehhhh

Could it be that Dyer and others went off because Oregon was using extra resources to make Cam “basically ineffective?”

Gen Neyland

January 14th, 2011
2:26 pm

zoo : Didn’t Pryor sign an agreement to return to the osu this season if he were allowed to play in the Sugar..? Are you thinking he’ll renege on that, ahem, promise..? Maybe he can get his start in the NFL as a Replacement Player.

jumbeauxtiger : Early congrats on what the pundits think of your program. Gotta make the family of Mettenberger give pause to what if what if didn’t happen. BTW, got any odds on the 2011 Fulmer Cup..?

BAMA dude

January 14th, 2011
2:27 pm

Jakeau24

January 14th, 2011
2:11 pm
@Jakeau24 reply. What, the report that his dad was at the game? Are you kidding me? Is that all you have? Yes, a dad went to watch his son play in the National Championship game.

See, this is where the Barners lose their credibility. On the one hand Cecil is a noble father who just wanted to see his son play, but on the other he’s a sleazeball who was willing to jeopardize his son’s career for personal gain without the son’s knowledge. Which is it?

gdawginkalamazoo

January 14th, 2011
2:32 pm

Gen Neyland, I don’t think he actually “signed” it unless you can count an “X” on the bottom line as a signature. He might not renege on it but being “academically ineligible” would relieve him of his contract agreement.

ESPN

January 14th, 2011
2:32 pm

Sports Fans,

Tune in to Outside the Lines at 3:00 ET for a discussion of Cam Newton and the ongoing NCAA investigation.

juice sourcer

January 14th, 2011
2:34 pm

The story line is this…these kids are one step above slave labor…while there masters are making millions.

JASon

January 14th, 2011
2:38 pm

“…Alabama, the defending national champions, to beat the No. 1 team…”

The media should be banned from ever referring to last year. They love to do it though, don’t they? (see Saints) Mr. college football, we tried to tell you before the season started that Alabama was nowhere near #1, but because of your narrow media vision, you just couldn’t help yourself. That must have been embarassing for you.

chazzo

January 14th, 2011
2:39 pm

“The ruling made no sense unless you believe Ohio State’s claim that their players had not been instructed on the rules.”

This actually makes the ruling far worse as it should then make the institution culpable for not effectively managing its environment. That is what USC got dinged for. Right? So, instead OSU was awarded for not properly instructing its players. Great precedent there.

Mr. Laughing

January 14th, 2011
2:39 pm

@ huh?

Caught that, did you? It’s not so much because Boise is playing UGA, it’s because Boise is playing an SEC team and and the talking heads at ESPN are smart enough to realize Boise can’t hang with even a decent SEC team for 4 quarters. It’s not that they so much prefer Boise over the SEC, they just appreciate the chaos and added story lines an undefeated Boise brings to them each year. Having that argument destroyed the first game of the season has to be a sports journalist’s worst nightmare. They love the “what if” hypotheticals a Boise brings them for 4 months each year.

gdawginkalamazoo

January 14th, 2011
2:40 pm

BAMA dude, I believe you will need to read the scriptures in order to answer that question. Or attend one of Cecil’s sermons. Better be in shape when you go because the offering plates they pass are HEAVY. Actually they may even use wheel barrows. Don’t hit the Brinks truck when you pull into the parking lot. And no, I am not casting stones because I lost my right to cast stones so long ago that I can’t even remember why I lost that right.

Rix

January 14th, 2011
2:40 pm

A statement that I think every non-Auburn koolaid drinker believes is inevitable.

Huh?

January 14th, 2011
2:42 pm

JASon,

Alabama was still ranked Number 1 when they lost to South Carolina. But your point still has merit. Auburn was Number 1 in 2010 — it’s now 2011 and they aren’t Number 1 any more.

kearns

January 14th, 2011
2:42 pm

Mr. Laughing,

So basically you are saying they are lazy, would-be “journalists” and they appreciate the annual drivel of a “well what about a Boise” weekly story? I couldn’t agree more!!

serious question

January 14th, 2011
2:43 pm

Is incest really legal in Alabama???

DC

January 14th, 2011
2:44 pm

bama dude,

No. It was extremely evident that Cam was trying too hard with his passes and over threw several times when he had wide open teammates.

Huh?

January 14th, 2011
2:45 pm

serious question,

Only if you don’t get caught. Same rules as in the NCAA.

TT

January 14th, 2011
2:47 pm

Tony, we already have a playoff system. It’s called the SEC Conference.

AFDawg

January 14th, 2011
2:55 pm

My Auburn friends tell me Cam was spotted on campus yesterday driving around in his new 2011 Cadillac. I don’t think his signing bonus would kick-in that quick — would it? I guess Daddy Newton finally gave his son some of the cash he got for selling his services to Auburn (the highest bidder). I think you touched on something important here when you talked about the bad in college football now-a-days. For me, the bad is far outweighing the good. It isn’t fun watching a school go out and buy a national championship and Heisman Trophy with a one-year wonder. It would have been different if Cam had been cultivated at Auburn. I’m sure Cam Newton feels very little allegiance to Auburn, they just served his purpose is all. The whole thing reminds me of Steinbrenner going out and buying the best team in baseball — what’s fun or exciting to watch about that? The fun part of baseball is seeing your rookies out of the farm system develop into stars. All of the other Heisman winners played for multiple years at their schools. The whole Newton thing is tainted and smells of corruption. It has definitely turned me off from college football as well as the inconsistency of the NCAA.

F the Big 10

January 14th, 2011
2:58 pm

With the overly biased, Big 10 saturated homers in the media, I supposed we’re going to have to endure even more than usual Ohio St. love for the next 5 years all because they barely beat an Arkansas team with their suspended players, the same Arkansas team that barely escaped the worst UGA team in 15 seasons. Just like how they still to this day reflect back on West Va.’s Sugar Bowl victory over UGA from 5 years ago, they will do the same with the Suckeyes for squeaking out a win against the pigs.

War Eagle

January 14th, 2011
2:59 pm

Bama and dawgs you can bitch, moan, complain and envy Auburn. They won National Championsship, SEC, Heisman Trophy, Maxwell Awards, Lombari Award, Coach of Year Award and 3 consenous All Americans.
UGA got beat by Central Florida ending with 6-7 season NO All-Americans
Bama you got beat by South Carolina 14 points who Auburn beat by 45 points in two games. YOU LOST TO AUBURN AFTER LEADING 24-0, 28-27 AT TUSALOOSA.
Bama played a good game at Capital One Bowl and represented SEC very good, but still 9-3 NO All Americans
Auburn won every major award in college football 2010, if you want to say Cam this and Cam that JUST DON`T FORGET HE BEAT BOTH YOUR A**
SO PLEASE DON`T COME BACK AND SAY WHAT ABOUT LAST YEAR AND 5 YEARS AGO and all that adventure,, I am talking 2010.Your TEAMS SUCKED THIS YEAR ESPECIALLY DAWGS.

James

January 14th, 2011
3:01 pm

AFDawg,

Stafford and Moreno are like Buck Belue compared to Cam’s allegiances to Auburn. And everyone knows how Stafford didn’t care to play college football, and Knowshon essentially picked UGA out of a hat. But they are considerably far more loyal to the Dawgs than $cam will ever be to his former employer.

DC

January 14th, 2011
3:01 pm

AFDawg,

Think before you post. You can’t be serious.

For the Bulldog Whiners

January 14th, 2011
3:03 pm

You Thuga fans still haven’t stopped whining about the beatdown in Auburn and your 6 and 7 team still stinks. Deal with it.

BAMA dude

January 14th, 2011
3:04 pm

gdawg, I’m sure Cecil could ’splain it to me so I can understand.

micha

January 14th, 2011
3:06 pm

You gotta admit, Cam was a very wise investment!!!

BAMA dude

January 14th, 2011
3:06 pm

War Eagle

January 14th, 2011
2:59 pm
Bama and dawgs you can bitch, moan, complain and envy Auburn.

The day I envy ANYTHING about, in, around, or from Lee County will be the day it’s time for me to go.

Lindsey

January 14th, 2011
3:07 pm

I enjoyed reading this article Tony, it has definatly been a memorable 2010 football season on and off the field!! GO DAWGS!!

gdawginkalamazoo

January 14th, 2011
3:10 pm

AFdawg, Did you ever hear the story of how Cam Newton met Rich Rodriguez? One day Rich Rod got fired from Michigan and decided to donate ALL of his Michigan gear to the Salvation Army. Lo and behold while he was there he ran to one Cam Newton who was donating his Auburn gear since he just declared for the draft. Said he didn’t need that anymore.

gdawginkalamazoo

January 14th, 2011
3:13 pm

Oh and when Cam introduces himself on Monday Night Football it will go like this:

“Cam Newton, tight end, THE Blinn Community College”

Jealous? of Auburn?

January 14th, 2011
3:16 pm

Heck, Mike Tyson won a championship too, but I’ve never been jealous of him.

Taint* nothing to be jealous of in Auburn.

AFDawg

January 14th, 2011
3:17 pm

Jakeau24, Typical Auburn fan defending dirty play. There were many other dirty plays committed by Fairly that he got away with. A lot of them are chronicled on YouTube — go watch for yourself. What did you think of Fairly wrenching an opposing players neck using the face mask for leverage while he’s got him pinned to the ground during the BCS championship game? I guess you didn’t see anything wrong with that. What if he had broken that player’s neck? In case you’ve never been told — trying to “take out” opposing players with dirty plays is called cheating. Auburn, from the administration, to the coaches, to the alumni, to the boosters, to the players are all about cheating. Anything to win. I guess you thought Brandon Spikes trying to gouge Moreno’s eyes was okay too. Fairly is a disgrace to the game — personally I think he’ll end up in jail someday — that’s his mentality.

MikeP

January 14th, 2011
3:19 pm

BAMA dude
January 14th, 2011
2:22 pm
“Good luck to Cam in the NFL don’t blow all that bonus money in one church.”
———————————————————

In your spare time, check the minutes of the Newnan, Georgia city council meetings. Unlike FBI investigations, those are a matter of public record. Cecil had the money to fix the church in July, 2009. That’s six months before Cam signed with Auburn. Sorry to spoil your fun.

AFDawg

January 14th, 2011
3:26 pm

DC, I’m dead serious about the Cadillac and everything else. Call some folks at Auburn and ask about it — they’ll verify the story for you.

Jerome

January 14th, 2011
3:27 pm

I wonder if Cam will have to take a pay cut as a pro?

Tiger for life

January 14th, 2011
3:29 pm

As the only honest Auburn fan on this blog, I for one am glad we paid Cam. Look what it got us? If we have to vacate the title on down the road, so be it, but I suspect Mike Slive and Mr. Lowder did a very good job of sweeping up all the bread crumbs.

give me a break

January 14th, 2011
3:31 pm

so daddy Cam had the money all along? Just for fun he waited to repair the church days before it was going to be condemned? Now I’ve heard everything!!!

Thuga

January 14th, 2011
3:32 pm

Will thuga’s chop blocking, punching center return for the 2011 season? You know, the one forced to sit out of the first half against Colorado because of illegal blocks in the prior game. He could have ended a players career with those chop blocks.

DawginLex

January 14th, 2011
3:33 pm

Thuga,

Too bad Ben Jones missed in his attempt to get Fairley.

give me a break

January 14th, 2011
3:34 pm

Is an Auburn fan really talking about dirty hits??!?!!? LOL!!!!!!

greg

January 14th, 2011
3:35 pm

@ Tiger for life,

Well thanks for honesty. Enjoy your title while you can. If I had to guess, you have about another 6 months to brag about it.

how2fish

January 14th, 2011
3:36 pm

MikeP got a question if there are 4 sources that debunked the rumor that Cam cheated at UF, wouldn’t those sources be just as guilty of breaking the law as whoever started the rumor..they would have to have access to sealed records and then go public with said records correct? Don’t get me wrong I don’t care one way or the other but did 4 public sources really put up their hands and go “Look we can debunk the rumors, but we had to break the law to do it” ….

BAMA dude

January 14th, 2011
3:38 pm

MikeP

January 14th, 2011
3:19 pm
BAMA dude
January 14th, 2011
2:22 pm
“Good luck to Cam in the NFL don’t blow all that bonus money in one church.”
———————————————————

In your spare time, check the minutes of the Newnan, Georgia city council meetings. Unlike FBI investigations, those are a matter of public record. Cecil had the money to fix the church in July, 2009. That’s six months before Cam signed with Auburn. Sorry to spoil your fun.

HaHa. Where to begin:

1) It was a joke

2) gdawginkalamazoo said it, I just quoted it (thus them there italics)

3) Cecil’s found out in the preachin’ bidness that you gotta get money down.

gdawginkalamazoo

January 14th, 2011
3:39 pm

give me a break, don’t you know that the Lord works in mysterious ways?

Mindy

January 14th, 2011
3:40 pm

The nastiness of the BCS debate is disquieting. I want a four-team playoff or a true plus-one, where two teams are picked after the bowls. I believe college football will need to made a change in the post-season format when the current BCS contract expires

The college presidents don’t want it — they’ll miss out on a lot of money for their schools if we delete the power of the bowls in any manner. BCS is probably here to stay.

Dave

January 14th, 2011
3:40 pm

Auburn’s still going to have to return the hardware, as will Newton. Once the FBI got involved, it became a matter of time. The FBI’s top priority remains convictions on the vote-buying corruption — but the Auburn stuff can’t be ignored. And given the political theater value, it won’t be.

Between Cecil’s shenanigans and Fairley’s antics, Auburn becomes a popular target. I give it 12 months.

BAMA dude

January 14th, 2011
3:40 pm

AFDawg

January 14th, 2011
3:26 pm
DC, I’m dead serious about the Cadillac and everything else. Call some folks at Auburn and ask about it — they’ll verify the story for you.

It is highly likely that the Cadillac (or at least the money used to buy it), IF it even exists, came from an agent since he declared. Mark Ingram already inked a seven-figure autograph deal.

Gen Neyland

January 14th, 2011
3:40 pm

zoo: When that scenerio plays out we’ll have to consider Pryor an honest man that flunk out for undisclosed reasons…

BAMA dude

January 14th, 2011
3:43 pm

gdawginkalamazoo

January 14th, 2011
3:13 pm
Oh and when Cam introduces himself on Monday Night Football it will go like this:

“Cam Newton, tight end, THE Blinn Community College”

He should say “Holy Zion Center for Deliverance.” That’s where he learned to deny.

Tide Rising

January 14th, 2011
3:47 pm

2011 preseason rankings are already out. OU is no. 1 with 18 returning starters off an 11-2 team. Bama is no. 2 with 16 returning starters off a 10-3 no. 10 team. We’re also poised to finish with the nation’s #1 ranked recruiting class for the 3rd time in the past 4 years.

LSU was 5th I think and Ark was 8th. LSU looks to be loaded and with Zach Mettenberger being the good qb they’ve been missing for the last 3 years they will be right back in the mix. Miss State has 16 returning starters also including their qb and should also be really good.

The west looks especially strong again in 2011. AU was ranked 17th and will take a pretty good dip with loosing Cam, Fairly, 4 of 5 starting O-lineman and 24 seniors. Great year in 2010 AU but its back to 8-4 for you in 2011. On the bright side you have the next 8 1/2 months to party and celebrate until the 2011 season starts.

Gen Neyland

January 14th, 2011
3:47 pm

Tiger for life : The price Auburn may have to pay the devil (Slive) down the road might make you weep. As one much wiser than I has noted : Slive is the SEC’s judge, jury and executioner. No telling what’ll be asked of AU when the chit comes due…Anyway, congrats on your title…

Whiskeydawg

January 14th, 2011
3:49 pm

Thanks Tony for a lot of good reporting this year. I think what we’ll never know about a Auburn and TCU matchup is the margin of victory by Auburn. I just don’t see them beating them.

Tyrone Biggums

January 14th, 2011
3:51 pm

SEC fans amuse me. At times, you show huge solidarity with those SEC chants. Then other times, like this message board, you rip each other to shreds. Well, which one is it?

BARNERGEDDON

January 14th, 2011
3:52 pm

gdawginkalamazoo

January 14th, 2011
3:53 pm

Gen Neyland, we can guess that he is no Greg McELroy when it comes to academics.

BAMA dude, LMAO! He might even say that instead.

BAMA dude

January 14th, 2011
3:53 pm

Tyrone Biggums

January 14th, 2011
3:51 pm
SEC fans amuse me. At times, you show huge solidarity with those SEC chants. Then other times, like this message board, you rip each other to shreds. Well, which one is it?

Anyone? I’m sure someone here can answer this intelligent man’s question since we’re all the same.

Okie From Muskogee

January 14th, 2011
3:53 pm

We’re Number 1 !!!

We’re Number 1 !!!

We’re Number 1 !!!

how2fish

January 14th, 2011
3:54 pm

Tyrone Biggums its both we are like brothers fighting we maybe in the process of beating each other senseless but if you get in the middle BOTH will turn on you.

how2fish

January 14th, 2011
3:55 pm

Okie From Muskogee as a UGA fan…be careful what you wish for…….

BAMA dude

January 14th, 2011
3:56 pm

how2fish

January 14th, 2011
3:54 pm
Tyrone Biggums its both we are like brothers fighting we maybe in the process of beating each other senseless but if you get in the middle BOTH will turn on you.

Like hell. I’d watch a Barner take an asswhuppin and laugh while I did.

b0bBiE jOe in AuBurn, AlaBama

January 14th, 2011
3:57 pm

aLL yOUs GeOrga fAnS crakE mE up!! h0w mAny of yOUs eVaN attanDed thAt sKooL any wAys??? ProbleMy n0ne!!!

war beagle

January 14th, 2011
3:57 pm

DC
January 14th, 2011
2:44 pm

bama dude,

No. It was extremely evident that Cam was trying too hard with his passes and over threw several times when he had wide open teammates.

Yeah, especially the one from the 5 yard line that he threw at the receivers feet.

nate

January 14th, 2011
3:58 pm

Its every SEC fans right to ridicule, question and mock each other. Even Vandy has a voice. But no outsiders are allowed.

how2fish

January 14th, 2011
4:00 pm

BAMA dude yeah you would but if they were spouting off about the SEC in general…I think you’d stand tall…actually I think I remember you doing that in the past correct?

Jacket Nation

January 14th, 2011
4:02 pm

Keeping thumping your bird chests SECers. The ACC dominated you yet again in yet another bowl season. If the ACC was able to play the SEC straight up, 1 seed vs. 1 seed, 2 seed vs. 2 seed, etc., the ACC would take 10 of 12 every time, every year.

how2fish

January 14th, 2011
4:03 pm

Jacket Nation thanks for that I’ve needed a good laugh all day and you’ve supplied me with chuckles for the entire weekend!!!

Jacket Nation

January 14th, 2011
4:04 pm

BAMA dude

January 14th, 2011
4:04 pm

Not necessarily. I was arguing with a Techie the other day about overall conference strength, but I objectively believe the SEC to be the strongest this season (and most others). There have been a few times where others had better teams.

BigTimeTECHFan

January 14th, 2011
4:06 pm

4 team playoff – no way. what would have been the 4 teams this year? Harder to say who’s 4th then who’s second.

Needs to be All BCS Conf champs play in playoffs. that’s it. rest of teams can play in bowl games.

Every year
Round 1:
ACC vs SEC
Big East vs Big 10
Big 12 vs PAC 10
WAC vs MAC
Round 2:
ACC vs SEC winner VS Big East vs Big 10 winner
Big 12 vs PAC 10 VS WAC vs MAC winner
Round 3:
Championship game verse round 2 winners
Runner up game: two round to losers play.

Thuga

January 14th, 2011
4:07 pm

These players are young and often times not very bright. One would expect some problems from time to time. Thugas problems started at the top. When was the last time an SEC AD was arrested prior to thugas? Anyone? One can only laugh at the problems with thugas program…….

Why Did This Story Die So Quickly?

January 14th, 2011
4:08 pm

Tell me where we can prove Cam actually received any benefits? I’ve heard a million comments made about “cheaters” yet I have looked everywhere and can’t find any proof that him or his Dad received anything. That doesn’t mean it’s not there and it didn’t happen, but in this day and age, with a 24-hour news cycle, why did the story die out so suddenly? If the trail was there, it would surface quick. This is a unique case because it surfaced DURING the season, usually stuff like this only comes out way after the player has left school. This was an unprecedented case to play out, WHILE games were being played. If there was something CONCRETE to the allegations, Cam would have never seen the field this year. The Auburn compliance Department wouldn’t have let it happen.

BAMA dude

January 14th, 2011
4:09 pm

Jacket Nation

January 14th, 2011
4:02 pm
Keeping thumping your bird chests SECers. The ACC dominated you yet again in yet another bowl season. If the ACC was able to play the SEC straight up, 1 seed vs. 1 seed, 2 seed vs. 2 seed, etc., the ACC would take 10 of 12 every time, every year.

Can you imagine Bama vs. NC State this year? That wouldn’t even be fun to watch.

gdawginkalamazoo

January 14th, 2011
4:12 pm

BAMA dude, “Like hell. I’d watch a Barner take an asswhuppin and laugh while I did”. LMAO!

Jacket Nation

January 14th, 2011
4:13 pm

You laugh because you know I’m right. The SEC has been hiding behind this mythical dominance created by the Tony Barn-hardon-for-the-SEC’s of the world. There isn’t a single conference out there that the SEC would beat in a straight up competition of each seed playing the other.

gdawginkalamazoo

January 14th, 2011
4:15 pm

Jacket Nation, yes I remember 2009 when we played the #1 seed from the ACC. We had rings made and the players make a boatload selling their game jersey to agents.

Why Did This Story Die So Quickly?

January 14th, 2011
4:17 pm

I know the NCAA usually takes their time with investigations but they NEVER would have let him keep playing, I just don’t buy it. They would have “recommended” that AU sit him, and they would have had to comply. Couple this with the fact that they had actually known about all these allegations 10 months prior and let Newton play, show me where AU has run afoul of the NCAA? By “lawyering up” and cooperating by declaring him ineligible and then having him re-instated, Auburn did everything right. If any money was paid, it would be boosters doing it behind the coaching staff’s back, and that money would be hard to trace. It would be in their financial records probably.

BAMA dude

January 14th, 2011
4:17 pm

Here it is for ya, Techie- seeded and all. The top five seeds would all be blowouts, the bottom seven could go either way.

Auburn vs. VT
Arky vs. FSU
LSU vs. Maryland
Bama vs. NC St.
Missy St. vs. Miami
USCe vs. UNC
Florida vs. BC
UGA vs. Clemson
UT vs. GT
UK vs. UVA
Vandy vs. Wake
Ole Miss vs. Duke

Jacket Nation

January 14th, 2011
4:20 pm

Given your seeds, I see the ACC taking no less than 9

Why Did This Story Die So Quickly?

January 14th, 2011
4:22 pm

But then again the money could have gone into Cecil’s church or under his mattress. We don’t know, but until you actually find the proof, you look silly trying to say “Auburn cheated”. If AU boosters paid Cecil, they would have found SOMETHING by now. It wouldn’t take long at all, they have already looked at the financial statements. Rogers was extorting MSU basically and Cecil went along with it, an egregious mistake.

gdawginkalamazoo

January 14th, 2011
4:22 pm

Jacket Nation, be sure to call a cab. It’s not safe to drive in your condition.

When A Cow Attacks

January 14th, 2011
4:25 pm

SCAM the Cam. An utter disgrace to the history of college football.

BAMA dude

January 14th, 2011
4:26 pm

Jacket Nation

January 14th, 2011
4:20 pm
Given your seeds, I see the ACC taking no less than 9

You are a joke then.

Lessee, Stanford beat VT by how much? FSU was proud of beating USCe- Arky beat ‘em IN Columbia by 21. LSU-Maryland, Bama-NCSU, and MSU-Miami are all laughers. The other seven would probably be a split.

Jacket Nation

January 14th, 2011
4:28 pm

The only joke is your denial

BAMA dude

January 14th, 2011
4:29 pm

Jacket Nation

January 14th, 2011
4:28 pm
The only joke is your denial

Then tell us, which 9 would the ACC win? This should be rich.

Jacket Nation

January 14th, 2011
4:33 pm

So and so beat them, and they beat so and so, blah blah blah. Using your logic there would be no sense in playing a single game. You cannot be that dense, can you?

DW

January 14th, 2011
4:37 pm

I am another loyal Georgia fan. I do not have my head in the sand and I am not in denial of the poor season we had. I would have liked to have seen some big changes made at the end of the season and going into next season. I am of the opinion it is the ONLY thing that can save us, but I will never stop supporting the red and black. I am also a die-hard SEC fan and proud that Auburn brought the trophy back home to the SEC this year. I hope nothing further happens with the Cam Newton issue and that the NCAA and SEC get down to business and make the rules clear and the consequences equal from one school to the next. Just for the record son, who was a member of the Georgia Redcoat Band always said that the Auburn fans and band members were the nicest bunch ever. He said they treated them with respect and dignity when they traveled to Auburn, unlike some of the other SEC schools. Just wanted to throw that in because Auburn is getting such a bashing right now. Anyway, this Bulldawg says Go SEC in 2011/2012!

Tide Rising

January 14th, 2011
4:39 pm

Jacket Nation,

Man are you funny. The sec west alone has 5 teams that finished in the top 15 of the final AP poll. The top ACC team of VT which got whupped in its bowl game finished 16th. Overall the SEC had 6 teams in the final poll while the ACC finished with 4 teams in the top 16-25 including 2 teams that barely squeaked in at #24 and #25.

And how many straight BCS titles has the SEC won now/ Five in a row you say?

What’s the SEC record in bowl games this past decade? Not sure but its something crazy like 14-3? And the ACC? Not sure but I think its something like 2-10.

Isn’t the ACC the conference whose champion was beaten earlier this season by James Madison? Didn’t the conference also lose lately to Richmond, Wofford, the Citadel, Appalachian State, etc?

BAMA dude

January 14th, 2011
4:39 pm

Jacket Nation

January 14th, 2011
4:33 pm
So and so beat them, and they beat so and so, blah blah blah. Using your logic there would be no sense in playing a single game. You cannot be that dense, can you?

Well, when you have one school that lost its first two games to BSU and JMU then got pounded in their last game by a conference runner-up, but managed to go unbeaten in that conference… pretty easy to figure out. ACC teams lost to Air Force, Nevada, South Florida, and Notre Dame in addition to the Stanford beat-down. They didn’t beat a single team that made the final top 25 poll. Contrast that with the SEC’s bowl performance and it really isn’t close. MNC win, LSU blowout over TAMU, Bama blowout over MSU, Missy State blowout over Michigan, Arky losing close to #5 Ohio State.

Jacket Nation

January 14th, 2011
4:40 pm

FSU, Maryland, Miami, UNC, BC, Clemson, GT, UVA, Wake and Duke. My bad, I meant 10

Tide Rising

January 14th, 2011
4:41 pm

Jacket Nation,

Facts are facts. Look at the ACC bowl records over the last 5 and 10 years compared to the SEC and its abysal, a real joke. Even ACC fans will tell you that.

Richard Cranium

January 14th, 2011
4:44 pm

Don’t forget about UGA winning the Fulmer’s Cup – a true achievement.

BAMA dude

January 14th, 2011
4:46 pm

FSU, Maryland, Miami, UNC, BC, Clemson, GT, UVA, Wake and Duke. My bad, I meant 10

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

So FSU is equal to Ohio State, Maryland is 3-TDs better than Tx A&M, Miami is 5-TDs better than Michigan, BC is better than Penn St., UNC is as good as FSU. Gotcha. The rest are so awful on both sides that it ain’t worth discussing.

Tide Rising

January 14th, 2011
4:47 pm

Alabama .88 winning % 30 wins 4 losses
LSU .81 22 wins 5 losses
Georgia .73 98 wins 32 losses
Tenn. .71 66 win 25 losses
Auburn .69 43 wins 18 losses
Vandy .63 39 wins 23 losses
Florida .59 49 wins 33 losses
Kentucky .53 20 wins 17 losses

Ole Miss .50 3 wins 3 losses break even against the acc

S. Carolina .475 155-172 losing record against ACC
Miss. State .375 4 wins 7 losses against ACC
Arkansas 0.0 0 wins and 3 losses against ACC

Overall the SEC has 8 teams with winning records against the ACC, 1 with a .500 record, and 3 teams with losing records against the ACC. Of further note is the absolutely dominating head to head performance of Alabama at 88 % and LSU at 81 %. Georgia and UT also have impressive over 70% winning records and Auburn is nearly at 70 with a 69% winning rate.

Now for a look at the ACCs head to head record against the SEC

Georgia Tech .51 winning % 177 wins 169 losses

Duke .46 winning % 41 wins 47 losses
Maryland .43 26 wins 35 losses
Miami .41 58 wins 81 losses
Boston Coll .41 14 wins 20 losses
Florida state .40 44 wins 66 losses
North Carolina .36 35 wins 65 losses
Virginia Tech .33 18 wins 38 losses
Wake Forest .29 12 wins 29 losses
Clemson .28 42 wins 111 losses
NC state .27 10 wins 28 losses
Virginia .24 8 wins 26 losses

So it looks like GT is the only ACC member who has a winning record against the SEC and even then its barely .51 %. Overall the other 11 ACC member’s performance against the SEC in all time head to head is nothing short of abysmal as any fair minded person can clearly see. Its horrible. Only 1 team with a barely over 50% winning record, 2 teams in the 30 % winning ratio against the SEC and 4 teams with winning %s in the 20s against the SEC. Also, 4 teams that are in the low 40% winning against the SEC.

These stats were coming into the 2010 season. The ACC won its 2 bowls against the sec but the sec won the majority of the regular season games such as AU beating Clemson, S Carolina whupping Clemson, and Georgia taking down Tech. ACC won the UF-FSU game.

Tide Rising

January 14th, 2011
4:50 pm

Jacket Nation,

Just the facts sir. And the facts are that head to head the SEC absolutely dominates the ACC alltime in head to head competition. And if we look up the bowl success of the SEC over the past decade- especially bcs bowls, the gap is even wider between the SEC and the ACC.

JUST THE FACTS SIR!

gdawginkalamazoo

January 14th, 2011
4:50 pm

But seriously Jacket Nation, I said BEFORE this past season that I thought the ACC would be the most dominate conference and the most fun to watch. I thought VT would be the team beat and have a shot at the NC. But just like most of the SEC East it all fell apart and ended up ugly.
Really losing to James Madison. And I am well aware that as a dawg fan I cannot say much about anybodys program. We stink right now but we will be better next year (I hope).

Tide Rising

January 14th, 2011
5:02 pm

All time record 251-117-10 SEC leads ACC coming into the 2010 season
Last 10 years- 41-30-0 SEC leads ACC coming into the 2010 season
6 National Championships last 10 years for the SEC, ACC has 1
5 National Championships last 5 years for the SEC ACC 0

TDawg Money

January 14th, 2011
5:13 pm

The real story at Auburn is the athletic dept decided not to pick up the 2nd year of Cam’s $180,000 ($90,000 per year) contract. The consensus wisdom was 3 fold…..1) they’ve already won the national championship and 2) they barely squeaked by the NCAA police the first time; why risk it for a second year, and 3) they have alot of confidence in their second string guy who they’re only paying $15,000 plus performance bonuses……Hey, everybody wants to cut costs, you know. They can use that extra $70,000 or so on a wide receiver they’re hot on, according to sources inside the AD office that want to remain anonymous.

OldFan

January 14th, 2011
5:25 pm

Despite all the cries of righteous indignation over the Cam situation, it would have been a terrible shame for college football fans not to have seen his extraordinary talents on the field. One and done—but what he did both individually and for Auburn has ben remarkable. The only thing he didn’t have as a player was longevity, but why should he? There’s nothing left to accomplish. If he’d played for UGA, he’d be sitting at the right hand of Herschel. But, of course at UGA, he’d be sitting there as a TE. As fans, we ought to judge him as an athlete. Daddy Newton is fair game, and for that matter, so may be Auburn. All I know is that when Cam was on the field, I never saw him wait for a deposit before he ran a play. He did his job, went undefeated, won the Heisman, won the NC. You know in your fan’s heart, you wish he’d been doing that for us.

SuperB

January 14th, 2011
5:28 pm

* As Mark May (ESPN) said, “The Big Ten is the NCAA’s sacred cow.” Hence the free pass for the five rules’ breakers. Without them, OSU gets whipped by Arkansas in the Sugar Bowl.

* According to ESPN (on Nov. 9,) Cam Newton told his recruiter at Mississippi State, “The money was too good,”
referring the decision by his father to send him to Auburn.

* Nothing about the NCAA’s enforcement is fair or equal and the Auburn case has a long way to go.

arky the pig

January 14th, 2011
5:34 pm

Don’t care much about Cam. That one will come out in the wash, but Auburn fans defending Fairley is pretty lame. Fairley is one of the dirtiest players I have ever seen. Did it all year long. Should have been suspended. He’s a thug or either very stupid. Sadly, as good a player as he is he doesn’t have to be.

barneyb

January 14th, 2011
5:36 pm

Amen, Jax Dawg! the NCAA is just as complicit in the scandals as the thug players that committed the acts. They all suck. I have no respect for the SEC, either. These money-grubbing punks (all of them) have forever tainted the game.

SuperB

January 14th, 2011
5:38 pm

Is Jacket Nation” on drugs? I live in the heart of ACC country– gre up here. Only the most unknowledgeable and biased fan would think anyone in the ACC can hold a candle to the SEC. As an example– if Georgia had played WF, Duke, BC, Clemson, UVa, etc. instead of South Carolina, Arkansas, Florida, and Auburn– all close losses– Georgia would likely have wound up 9-3 or 10-2.

The new reality of the normally superior ACC BB league is– outside Duke– they aren’t very good this year. But year in–year out– the ACC BB teams would whip the SEC; just as the SEC would whip the ACC (and every other conference) in football.

dawgfan

January 14th, 2011
5:49 pm

Cam was ineffective against Oregon? He threw or 260 yards Captain Clueless. How in the hell is that ineffective? It appeared to me that Malzahn wasn’t even trying to have him run the ball that much because Oregon was loading the box.

And 4 personal fouls for one player is a lot. LMAO @ Barners acting like that’s no big deal. The sad part is that there are undoubtedly countless other classless acts that went unflagged. The motto of 2010 Auburn Football: Where there is smoke there is fire.

Check Your FACTS SuperB

January 14th, 2011
5:52 pm

Super B Joe Schad reported that from an “unnamed source” but he never actually heard the tape. Now the tape apparently doesn’t exist. Even if he did say “The Money Was Too Much’, you don’t even know the context of the conversation. For example:
Cam Newton apologizing to a recruiter at MSU: “I wanted to sign with you but the money was too much. I can’t be a part of whatever you worked out with my father. I can not afford to get in trouble again, etc., etc.

He didn’t say “They offered me money” that would be much different. My guess is that Cam or his Mom caught wind of the scheme and then Rogers and Cecil had to call it off. Or even more likely someone at MSU found out and blew the whistle to the SEC. So yes Cam may be lying when he says he didn’t know, but what else could he do? If he admits knowledge of the failed attempt he is ineligible anyway so he had to clam up.

Don't Listen To dawgfan: He's Clueless

January 14th, 2011
5:56 pm

Take everything “dawgfan” says with a grain of salt. Look how idiotic this post he made looks now. Fairley is over-rated? PLEASE!!

dawgfan
January 10th, 2011
9:04 am

I think Oregon wins. Auburn does not have the dominating defense that we’ve seen out of past BCS Champions from the SEC. In fact, their defense is average at best. And I don’t care what all the draft experts say. I think Fairley is overrated. Georgia was able to contain him so I’m sure Oregon will have no problem either. In all fairness, there’s not much any defensive lineman can do against Oregon’s fast paced offense. Most of you probably haven’t seen them play. They are the real deal.

The SEC was decidedly down this year and Auburn benefitted. I think this is the year the SEC run finally comes to an end.

Bodda Getta

January 14th, 2011
5:58 pm

The 2010 college football season: Auburn Good. Georgia Bad.

War Eagle

January 14th, 2011
5:58 pm

Alabama and UGA REMEMBER THESE DAYS?
Rodney Garner losing his job at Auburn and forced to resign at Tenn..unethical recruiting.
Jim harrick, ajc quote” UGA was put on probation for one of the worst scandal of recruiting and grade changes in SEC history”
Jan Kemp,fired and given her job back as a UGA Professor for filing suit against Georgia Athl;etic Dept. for allowing players to enroll with SAT scores of 560 or less
Vince Dooley, admits football players were admitted and played with less than a 560 SAT

Albert Means DT, Alabama gave high school coach $200,000 to guide Albert Means to bama, Loren Young an Bama booster was convicted and sent to prison.MEANS ENROLL AT BAMA PLAYED 2 YEARS AND TRANSFERRED TO MEMPHIS.
Head Coach Dubose, fired after affair with his secretary and recruiting violation
Head Coach Price, fired before coaching a down and illegal use of Athletic credit card, most hard dollars for STRIPERS(Destiny)
Head coach Fran, left Bama overnight, just left and went to Texas, NO NOTICE
So when you reply of all Auburn`s probation DON`T , I AM aware of all of them and was embarrassed very much at the time

Bodda Getta

January 14th, 2011
5:59 pm

The 2011 college football season: Auburn Good. Georgia Bad.

Hey" dawgfan" The Clown

January 14th, 2011
6:00 pm

Still think Fairley is over-rated after he dominated the NC game? Yes he had a personal foul…..SO WHAT? He was penalized for it. Do you realize UGA leads the nation in personal foul penalties 3 years and running? Look it up……

A Better Question

January 14th, 2011
6:01 pm

Why didn’t the SEC report the Cam Newton incident to the NCAA when MSU reported it to the SEC?

The story had to be leaked to the media, because Slive had swept it under the rug.

Prove otherwise…

Bodda Getta

January 14th, 2011
6:02 pm

War Eagle,

You have no reason to ever be embarrassed.

You are part of the best there is in college football.

Warm Beagle

January 14th, 2011
6:04 pm

@War Eagle

The University of Alabama never gave anyone any money for Albert Means. I assume that you have evidence to back up your assertion? No? I didn’t think so.

al.com

January 14th, 2011
6:12 pm

The Cam story is over. Grow up your wishful thinking is not going to happen. You just watched a great player beat your team so get over it.

Crimson Crush

January 14th, 2011
6:15 pm

big LOLz for the Barner … sounds and acts like a 5 year old that KNOWS they have a hard ass spanking coming … silly sumb***h seems to REALLY believe all they need to do to escape blame is to blame big brother . Funny … funny … FUNNY stuff . The NCAA will be sharpening it’s knives … Bama about to haul in a MONSTEROUS top ranked recruiting class and hit thrid gear … and then you have Barn dillweeds like this trying to yell ” Nuh UH ” ROFLMAO

This is going to go down as one of the best off seasons in college football EVER … even if you are a Dawg ;-)

Beg To Differ Warm Beagle

January 14th, 2011
6:15 pm

It was a Bama booster but the coaching staff knew about it.

A former high school coach testified Tuesday that he took a $150,000 payoff to send his top football player to the University of Alabama.
Lynn Lang said he received the money from Logan Young, a Memphis millionaire who is on trial on federal bribery and money laundering charges.

Lang is awaiting sentencing on a guilty plea to racketeering conspiracy. He said he took the money to convince defensive lineman Albert Means to sign with Alabama in 2000.

Young’s lawyers contend Lang is lying to save himself from a long prison sentence.

Means, who has not been accused of wrongdoing, testified earlier in the day that he let Lang choose his college.

Lang said he began shopping Means around to various colleges when he realized in 1999 how many schools wanted him. He said he was referred to Young, a longtime Alabama booster, by former Crimson Tide assistant coach Ivy Williams.

Lang said he began the bidding for Means at $50,000, and Young “took to it like water.”

Lang said he kept upping the price until it topped out at $150,000, which he received in a series of payments each smaller than $10,000, the threshold at which bank transactions must be reported.

Young told him that since the payments were in cash, “If anything happened, it was his word against mine,” Lang testified.

Beg To Differ Warm Beagle

January 14th, 2011
6:18 pm

Logan Young also boasted about “sending other athletes to Alabama”. They were almost given the death penalty. Biggest Scandal of the decade.
Alabama’s recruitment of Means became part of an NCAA investigation that led to sanctions against the Crimson Tide in 2002 that deprived the team of scholarships and bowl eligibility.

Means wrapped up his eligibility to play college football last season and expects to graduate in May. He said he hopes to have a professional football career.

Lisa Mallory, a former girlfriend of Young’s, told the jury he is a heavy drinker who likes to brag about Alabama football.

She said Young talked about Means, saying, “He’s mine.”

Under defense questioning, she said Young also made similar comments about other high school players who did not sign with Alabama but went to other colleges.

Mallory said Young often carried large amounts of cash, spent heavily at bars and restaurants and gambled with sports bookies and at casinos.

One of the charges against Young accuses him of setting up bank withdrawals to hide a crime. The defense contends he often makes bank withdrawals under $10,000.

“He spends a lot of money doesn’t he?” defense lawyer Robert Hutton asked Mallory.

“A lot,” she replied.

With the jury out of the courtroom, prosecutors sought permission to call a witness who would say Young boasted about sending other athletes to Alabama.

kral

January 14th, 2011
6:19 pm

BODDA getta is that some kind of cheese or something…does it smell..because your 2011 prediction does…maybe your right…maybe your wrong….show up next Nov…a i will honor you or laugh at you

"Serial Repeat Violator"

January 14th, 2011
6:20 pm

This from 2009:

The NCAA Committee on Infractions called the University of Alabama a “serial repeat violator” with an “abysmal infractions track record” and an “extensive recent history of infractions cases unmatched by any other member institution in the NCAA,” in responding to the school’s textbook appeal, according to documents released today.

bob

January 14th, 2011
6:21 pm

Will Hewitt or Richt go first?

"Serial Repeat Violator"

January 14th, 2011
6:23 pm

The NCAA Committee on Infractions called the University of Alabama a “serial repeat violator” with an “abysmal infractions track record” and an “extensive recent history of infractions cases unmatched by any other member institution in the NCAA,”

"Serial Repeat Violator"

January 14th, 2011
6:26 pm

How do you explain that Crimson Crush? The NCAA says you break the rules more than any other institution and have an “abysmal infractions track record”? Your response? I’m waiting……

kral

January 14th, 2011
6:27 pm

Dam… that does sound bad SRV,,but so have my Dawgs ..so what can I say

kral

January 14th, 2011
6:27 pm

Dam… that does sound bad SRV,,but so have my Dawgs ..so what can I say

kral

January 14th, 2011
6:30 pm

hewitt will not go with his contract made from heaven ..personally I hope CMR turns us around and we do not have to worry about that decision

Paul in RDU

January 14th, 2011
6:52 pm

A Better Question

January 14th, 2011
6:01 pm
Why didn’t the SEC report the Cam Newton incident to the NCAA when MSU reported it to the SEC?

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Now that is a good question. In the SEC constitution there is a rule (10.6.2) that if any schools hear of violations of NCAA rules concerning any other SEC schools, they are supposed to contact the SEC first. This rule was enacted in June 1997 after all of the unpleasantries between ALA and TENN.
It took months for the SEC to inform the NCAA. A number of people, notably Jim Delaney and John Swofford, are less than impressed with the commitment of Mike Slive to investigate in a timely manner the MSU-Newton case.

Crimson Crush

January 14th, 2011
7:22 pm

Barner is stilling yelling “Nuh UH … Bama did it” ;-)

My response is it won’t matter if you have ( or manufacture ) film of another shooter wearing a Crimson Tide jersey and yelling Roll Tide as he fires in Dealey Plaza on November 22, 1963 . It won’t do a thing for the Barn image LOL

You guys are gonna burn over this one … and ya know it . Really irrelevant if you ever admit it . That “Cammy Cam” juice that you guys decided to pay top dollar to binge drink on is souring faster than a bucket of hot p*** in summer .

I will love watching you knobs throw it all back up …. along with everything else . Even better will be watching how many years it takes to recover ;-)

Bob/ Okeefe

January 14th, 2011
7:25 pm

Ah Paul in RDU—- I understand that Slive couldn’t find anyone to dial the phone for him.Everyone was on vacation I guess.

Ed (The Original)

January 14th, 2011
7:29 pm

TCU in the Big East makes no sense to me now that the Big XII is short two teams. TCU in that conference would be a natural fit and create exciting rivalries with Texas, Oklahoma, A&M, Texas Tech, and Okie State. It would have also put TCU back onto a stage it has earned. The Big East is a major conference in name only.

Bob/ Okeefe

January 14th, 2011
7:29 pm

Whats all the fuss about Alabama.Its a pretty good state.Their only problem is that can’t find anyone who can read the rules and quite frankly ,they never could.

Crimson Crush

January 14th, 2011
7:41 pm

I agree Original Ed … TCU in the Big East is silly … surely that arrangement won’tlast …

War Eagle

January 14th, 2011
7:53 pm

Beg to Differ warm Beagle, thanks for the source, I received a copy from Memphis paper, but misplaced it.
UGA was ONE of the schools that bid on Means,along with Oklahoma and Texas.
I was recruited heavy by SEC schools in high school,, all offered me ‘goods” except Georgia Tech and Coach Dodd. Tech was in the SEC at the time.It was like a “who got in the last bid” for many High school players. I chose Auburn because I like Coach Jordan, close to my home and a Big Merry Christmas..
Wally Butts(UGA), Coach Whitworth(bama), and few others wore money belts and put cash in the glove dept. of new Buicks.
Stupidty was the way you could get caught… it was wide spread..

Connell

January 14th, 2011
7:58 pm

Tony, did I miss Andrew Luck’s name when you were discussing 2011 Heisman candidates on your TV show earlier this week? Assuming you did ignore him, I would only ask: Por que?

War Eagle

January 14th, 2011
8:07 pm

Just in from Chip Towers(ajc), As isaiah Crowell leaves for Tuscaloosa for a bama offical visit, UGA offered his best friend ‘Cootie” a scholarship to the 180 pound Linebacker. This was the only scholarship Cootie received from any school.Wow and wow…see recruiting article by Chip Towers..

"Serial Repeat Violator"

January 14th, 2011
8:20 pm

So by the changing the subject to Cam I take it you don’t have a response? Classic bait and switch….typical mullet tactics. So you agree that Alabama has an “extensive recent history of infractions cases unmatched by any other member institution in the NCAA,”? I’ll ask you again real slow so your pea-brain can comprehend: How do you respond to the fact that the NCAA has accused you of being a “serial repeat violator” with an “abysmal infractions track record”? Or are you taking the fifth?

"Serial Repeat Violator"

January 14th, 2011
8:25 pm

Crimson Crush are you even aware that Alabama is on probation AS I SPEAK? This from the chairman of the NCAA infractions committee in ‘02:
“They were absolutely staring down the barrel of a gun,” said Thomas Yeager, chairman of the infractions committee.

Major findings cited by the NCAA Infractions Committee in imposing penalties on the Alabama football program:

A recruit, identified in news reports as Kenny Smith, and his parents were given $20,000 in cash, lodging and entertainment by two Crimson Tide boosters beginning in 1995. The first payment of $10,000 was made in $100 bills delivered in a grocery bag. Smith signed with Alabama but couldn’t meet academic requirements.

An Alabama booster previously identified as Logan Young of Memphis, Tenn., gave cash to a high school coach who was seeking $100,000 cash and two sport-utility vehicles in exchange for directing star recruit Albert Means to Alabama.

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“These violations are some of the worst, most serious that have ever occurred,” he said

Paul in RDU

January 14th, 2011
8:26 pm

Here is an article from the Memphis Commercial Appeal concerning the recruitment of Albert Means. He was shopped to half the SEC.

http://www.commercialappeal.com/news/2001/jan/10/jan-10-2001-200000-bought-star-coach-says/

"Serial Repeat Violator"

January 14th, 2011
8:29 pm

You’re right “Paul in RDU”? But who bit is the question?

"Serial Repeat Violator"

January 14th, 2011
8:32 pm

It’s also important to note that Means was shopped without his knowledge as well. Sound similar to another case in the news lately?

Paul in RDU

January 14th, 2011
8:34 pm

I would guess that the progam who “bit” were also letting their players sell textbooks less than 5 years after the NCAA had handed down the sanctions in the Means case. I believe that they are currently on probation for that little issue.

"Serial Repeat Violator"

January 14th, 2011
8:36 pm

Another question that still hasn’t been answered. Why did Miss St. continue to recruit Cam Newton right up until signing day, if they were about to blow the whistle to the SEC on Rogers and Cecil Newton? Something’s strange about the timeline in this case….

Bammer sux

January 14th, 2011
8:38 pm

Flash that toothless smile you stupid jealous blamers / thuggas..!

Sugg Id

January 14th, 2011
9:20 pm

A 4-team playoff is stupid. A team like Hawaii in ‘08 is bound to get in every single year. Nobody knows, TCU could have been Hawaii. Don’t think because they beat Wisconsin they proved anything. We saw what the Big 10 brought to the table on New Year’s Day.

gcs

January 14th, 2011
9:39 pm

Another thing nobody is talking about in regards to the Ohio State Tattoo-gate is the fact that this happened up to two years ago and it only made it to the light of day in December 2010. Additionally, this infraction was made known almost four months after AJ Green’s high-profile case surfaced. You can’t tell me none of those Buckeyes heard about AJ’s suspension.

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MikeP

January 14th, 2011
9:57 pm

You guys and your “The FBI will get you” stuff are hilarious. You sound like a bunch of third graders on the playground.

Question: What do the FBI’s investigation of gambling in Alabama and the bible have in common?

Answer: Both have thousands of pages and neither one contains any mention of Auburn University.

This deal is over, guys. They aren’t going after Mississippi State and Auburn hasn’t even been accused of any wrong doing. Quoting ESPN’s Joe Schapp on December 3rd: “The NCAA is happy with the results of the Newton investigation and they’ve closed the books. This issue is over, done, dead.”

National champs, SEC champs, Heisman winner, Lombardi winner, Coach of the year winner, Broyles award winner…Sounds like a clean sweep to me! It’s Great To Be An Auburn Tiger!

Bodda Getta

January 14th, 2011
10:07 pm

It’s about jealousy, MikeP.

And it doesn’t look good on the butthurt Alabama and Georgia fans.

Have some compassion and let them hold on to their conspiracy theories.

It makes them feel better about themselves.

It’s all they have.

joe

January 14th, 2011
10:23 pm

One of the bloggers mentioned U of Washington. As an alum, i remember one of the best stories about Hugh McElhenny, a UW Hall of Fame player. When asked why he went to UDub. The answer was cause they paid me the most. (Dan Raley interview with HM Seattle PI 9-02-2004). Would be nice to hear that these days from a number of players. UW during the Willingham era suffered from horrendous recruiting and really poor bagmen. Emmert could have done a better job with bagmen. Yes when all the smoke clears about Victory Land and FBI opens up Auburn will regret ever hearing about the Newtons-well maybe not they are Auburn people afterall.

BAMA dude

January 14th, 2011
10:47 pm

Does anybody have any idea why the same idiot troll would come on the same blog every day under a different handle and post copies of the same tired old garbage?

BAMA dude

January 14th, 2011
10:59 pm

In fact, here is a key excerpt from UA’s response to the textbook scandal:

The intentional wrongdoers — [material here deleted] — exploted the University’s textbook distribution system for scholarship student-athletes to acquire texts and materials of a value greater than $100 for girlfriends, boyfriends, or other student-athletes.” All of the texts and materials were returned at the end of the semester or if not, they were charged to, and recovered from, the student-athlete’s receivables account, as was required by the University’s textbook program. The investigation did not reveal that anyone converted the books or materials to cash by reselling the items, and did not reveal that anyone acquired items that were not academic in character (no iPods, no sweatshirts, etc.). These intentional wrongdoers knew that they were taking advantage of the University and its Supply Store. However, these student-athletes believed that because the textbooks were either returned to the Supply Store or charged to them if not returned, no NCAA rules were implicated by their conduct.

Real sinister stuff there.

Gen Neyland

January 14th, 2011
11:04 pm

War Eagle : RE your 2007 post : UGA doesn’t do that sort of thing. I know this to be fact because some Dawg fan told me on these boards last year CMR would NEVER to that to land a recruit like Tennessee did to land Da’Rick by offering Nance. Jus’ saying,…

Tiger Steve

January 14th, 2011
11:07 pm

Fairley & Newton to the NFL…as an Auburn man I say good luck on your future endeavors…
and I also say good riddance.

Gen Neyland

January 14th, 2011
11:24 pm

Cam Newton to the NFL. First, I wish him well. Second, his old man can now get that 180,000k legit. Does this not work out for everybody or what..!!!?

steve

January 14th, 2011
11:31 pm

Tommy,
First of all, War Eagle! Waited a long time.
Good article and agree some changes need to be made.
Here are some to consider.

End the BCS and return to the old bowl system.

Eliminate overtimes. Without OT the likelyhood of multiple teams having a perfect record is reduced.
Remember how exciting bowls games were when a tie between two top teams opened the door for another. Take this year and imagine the TCU fans watching Oregon – Auburn with a tied score late in the game.
Neutral field games should be banned. The heart and soul of college football is the campus atmosphere generated by the home team. Think of GA-FL in the Swamp or in Athens instead of a “neutral” field. The Iron Bowl is a 1000 times better since leaving Legion Field.

MikeP

January 14th, 2011
11:41 pm

Quoting Joe:
January 14th, 2011
10:23 pm
……when all the smoke clears about Victory Land and FBI opens up Auburn will regret ever hearing about the Newtons-well maybe not they are Auburn people afterall.’

FBI opens what up, exactly? That investigation got over on October. The FBI has turned their findings over to the prosecution and the prosecution has prepared their case and requested a trial date from the judge. It’s over.

Auburn does not have anything to do with Victroryland. Paul Bryant jr, aka Lil’ Bahr is one of the biggest owners of gambling interests in Alabama. Guess what…they won’t be reporting anything about him paying players at UAT in this investigation either. College football is not the subject of the investigation. You guys need to get that through your heads. Or don’t, for all I care. Sit there and grumble while we enjoy a great season of Auburn football.
War Eagle!

Gen Neyland

January 14th, 2011
11:45 pm

…and to the best of our knowledge, TCU’s
runner-up finish didn’t contain half the baggage of Auburns first place finish. Yeah, the good ol’ days… I’m all over it.

MikeP

January 14th, 2011
11:52 pm

The only place Auburn has any baggage is in your wishful thinking. Seek assistance, jealousy can be a dangerous trait.

birddawgbill

January 15th, 2011
1:13 am

Anyone who thinks Auburn will get the death penalty is crazy. After the SMU mess that rule will never be used again. I dont think anything will ever come of this. Even if there is something there the SEC and NCAA will cover it up. AU fans enjoy, this year while you can. Next year will be a long one. Finally anyone who thinks Fairly isnt dirty is insane. It wasnt just UGA fans that thought it. The entire SEC knows it. Just hate that hes going to end up in Carolina. Matt Ryan watch your knees and back.

AU OLD SCHOOL

January 15th, 2011
2:06 am

As a graduate of Auburn (Class of 1968) and a member of a generation of Auburn fans that treated opponents with respect and civility, I have been disgusted with most of the commentary on Auburn and its program in 2010. From my perspective Cam Newton should never have played this year if the letter and spirit of SEC rules were followed. I did not watch the NC game because of my disgust with the entire bowl system. Bowl games used to be a reward for a good season. They are now nothing more than a reward for mediocrity. My last view of the college football season was the Auburn-Alabama game. I did not waste my time on any of the bowls and the taint of the Newton scandal made the championship game a non-entity. I am proud of my Tigers who played way beyond their abilities for the season, but the season will always bear a taint because neither the SEC nor the NCAA had the courage to do what they were supposed to do. Money now has made college football NFL, Jr. I will shift my enjoyment of football to the place where school spirit and tradition still mean something and championships are decided between the sidelines. WAR EAGLE in memory of a time that is now lost to the demands of King Dollar.

mm

January 15th, 2011
2:19 am

You are Just about the dumbest yelousest blank blank , I am a Bama Fan and dont like what has hapened but it did. But I have a life , maybe you need to get one. Just be proud of the SEC ,and hope your team does better next year. Dont be such a big Looser!

Herschell??

January 15th, 2011
2:21 am

Dawg fans you are ab-so-damn-lutley irrelevent so just shut the f–k up!!

Stinger2

January 15th, 2011
4:27 am

The bad outnumbers the good by a lot if you are a UGA or GT fan. Too much to fix in both programs to expect much better in 2011. UGA may have reason for being more optimistic than GT. If the UGA fans will leave CMR alone and stop being so unrealistic, UGA will improve.

BoWeevil

January 15th, 2011
5:42 am

BAD :

7 losses this 2010 season by Mark Richt – the MOST EVER in Georgia HISTORY, ever

BoWeevil

January 15th, 2011
5:44 am

I am not that intereted in being better; what I demand is that we TRY to be GREAT.

Paddy

January 15th, 2011
6:47 am

Later Vacated…..why hate on Auburn? They did not violate any rules neither did Miss St. This whole thing is on daddy Newton acting like a pimp.

Bark Madly

January 15th, 2011
7:37 am

I think Tony should change his last name to Slive.

bad brad

January 15th, 2011
8:53 am

I admit I didnt read the entire blog, but think the job that Derrick Dooley did at Tennessee was commendable. Being a Dawg fan, I usually hate all things orange, but it’s hard not to notice that Dooley came in and did a good job of cleaning up the Lane Kiffen mess and now has that program, in my opinion, turned around.

I like Mark Richt, but after the Liberty Bowl debacle, I started thinking that if it is time for a change, we could do a lot worse than young Dooley.

Fan of the Game

January 15th, 2011
8:55 am

Is it true that Cam and his dad are going to be on the cover of Sports Illustrated? The cover story is about how they pulled off the biggest victory ever over the NCAA.

Fan of the Game

January 15th, 2011
9:00 am

If Coach Richt does not start using some old school discipline it will get no better. I am a Coach Richt fan and I hope he is there for along time. But I remember when he got to UGA he made Tony Gilbert cut his hair and told him he didn’t want to see it out from under his helmet. Man have things changed. Also we need heart and character on defense. David Pollock type and also everybody wants Kirby Smart, hey I want a defensive back that had the smarts and heart of Kirby Smart.

jc_atl

January 15th, 2011
9:05 am

I’m happy my Auburn Tigers have a BCS trophy in their case. I’m also happy that Cam Newton has gone pro, primarily because it means that Cecil will be guaranteed to stay away from Auburn from now on. He’s a selfish man who tried to sell his son to MSU, and then broke an agreement with Auburn AD Jay Jacobs to stay away from the BCS game.

If the Dawgs want to know what’s wrong, look to your coach and his pathetic waste of so much talent. A co-worker who is a rabid Dawg said yesterday that there’s a rumor that Aaron Murray may be looking to transfer due to the train leaving the rails in Athens. Truth or fiction, and why is Richt even coming back next season?

Bobby Petrino

January 15th, 2011
9:11 am

Atlanta is the world’s largest outhouse. I have fond memories of taking dumps there.

Pete foley

January 15th, 2011
9:18 am

Great recap, Tony. You summed it up well. Personally, Cam’s prancing around at the end of the championship game (obviously trying to gain Gatorade as a future endorsement contract) seemed very disingenuous and sullied the Cam Redemption story I’d enjoyed all season. Now I believe the apple certainly fall far from Daddy Newton’s tree. Good riddance …

Big

January 15th, 2011
9:27 am

Tell me more about this “body blow” that college football suffered as a result of the USC mess. Is attendance down? Are TV ratings down? They should be, but I don’t think they are.

MikeP

January 15th, 2011
10:27 am

“Old school Auburn Fan”~~If you did, indeed, graduate from Auburn as I did, you should remember the art of critical thinking we learned there. There has not been ONE iota of proof that Cecil Newton or Cam Newton got as much as ONE dollar.in extra benefits. Don’t let the three irresponsible journalists that started this and kept it rolling, three who since have been proved to be lying on critical points, spoil this great season for you.
As to the bammer and UGA fans that are jealous and feel destroyed because of Auburn’s success, Shug wouldn’t have let them get under his skin, don’t let these whiners get under yours.

War Eagle~~~MikeP, AU class of ‘69

Fan of the Game

January 15th, 2011
10:43 am

MikeP – If I rob a bank and don’t get the money but get caught I am still guilty. Cecil Newton ask for the money knowing it was against the rules so he is guilty, whether he got the money or not. Oh yea, congratulations on your National Championship. Another great example of the SEC and its strength.

Fan of the Game

January 15th, 2011
10:44 am

Also I don’t think anybody is destroyed by your success.

Dawg Tired

January 15th, 2011
10:49 am

Interesting Tony. You think the Ohio State players lied about not knowing but you apparently believe Cam didn’t know his Daddy asked for money. Neither is believable at any level.

Dawg Tired

January 15th, 2011
10:53 am

MikeP – I knew your old coach Shug. Shug would not have allowed Cam to play knowing his Daddy asked for money. Shup had character. He was a fine man. Not willing to say same about current crew.

Dawg Tired

January 15th, 2011
10:54 am

Booby Petrino – There is certainly less crap in Atlanta now that you have moved on.

Dixie Redcoat Band

January 15th, 2011
11:04 am

Ok relax people…$cam is gone and now maybe UGA can beat Auburn this year.

"Serial Repeat Violator"

January 15th, 2011
11:11 am

No Bama “dude” it’s not the severity of the textbook allegations, it’s the brazen stupidity of the whole scandal. After almost receving the Death Penalty in ‘02, you go and get put on probation…..AGAIN! 3 times in 15 years. What’s your excuse for the Albert Means scandal? This should be interesting……

dan the nerd

January 15th, 2011
11:40 am

UGA lost more games with AJ Green than without him. Quit saying stupid crap like his suspension “wrecked UGA’s season”.

Bobby Petrino

January 15th, 2011
1:08 pm

82% of Georgia natives are introduced to their future spouses at family reunions

AFDawg

January 15th, 2011
3:16 pm

MikeP, Auburn’s success this year reminds me of the 1997 Florida Marlins. They went out and bought a championship by paying all the huge free agant salaries. The next year they were nothing again because they could no longer afford the huge salaries. Face it — Cam Newton and Nick Fairly were free agents — both JUCO transfers who won’t even stick around for their senior seasons. Newton only played one year at Auburn. This win at any cost mentality isn’t fun to watch. There might have been victories on the field this year, but the whole thing seems like a hollow victory to me. The growing corruption and lack of loyalty (Newton was recruited and signed by Florida) in college football is making it no longer fun to watch. Do you know how sick and tired everyone is hearing about — Cecil Newton was at the game, or Pryor apologizing to a full stadium after being named MVP of the Sugar Bowl. For a game that is supposed to be amateur sports at its best — it really is becoming sickening to watch. If I was an Auburn fan, I wouldn’t feel right about what transpired this year.

Tide Rising

January 15th, 2011
3:50 pm

“Major findings cited by the NCAA Infractions Committee in imposing penalties on the Alabama football program:”

“A recruit, identified in news reports as Kenny Smith, and his parents were given $20,000 in cash, lodging and entertainment by two Crimson Tide boosters beginning in 1995. The first payment of $10,000 was made in $100 bills delivered in a grocery bag. Smith signed with Alabama but couldn’t meet academic requirements.”

“serial repeat violator”,

You may have missed it but Kenny Smith was featured a year or 2 after this mess on ESPN’s outside the lines segment. Smith had transferred to UT from Alabama and then left UT. Why did he leave UT? In the interview on ESPN and in other statements Smith testified that Philip Fulmer had put intense pressure on him to fabricate allegations against Bama. Smith also stated that Bama had in fact recruited him cleanly.

You may also have missed the fact that Smith and his mother also ended up filing suit against Fulmer. In Fulmer’s largely fabricated ’secret witness testimony” -which is unseemly in its own right- against Alabama Fulmer had told NCAA officials that Smith’s mother was having an affair with an Alabama assistant coach. He was basically just smearning the woman but since the testimony was ’secret” and it was thought that it would never be revealed he went ahead and smeared both Smith and his mother.

Thirdly you may also have missed the fact that in one of the 3 major rules violations of which Bama was accused that Bama self reported the violation. At that point the NCAA per its own rules had a window of 1 year in which to respond to the self reported violation. The NCAA looked into it 18 months later. Bama pointed out to the NCAA that according to its own rules it could not hold Bama accountable for the violation because it had not adhered to its own rule of following up within a 12 month window. The NCAA acknowledged that it was breaking its own rule. The NCAA simply ignored its own rules and hung Bama with the violation. What credibility does an organization have when it doesn’t even follow its own rules and bylaws?

Last- if you know anything about the NCAA you should know that it is a thoroughly corrupt and highly politicized organization that is accountable to NO ONE. It is an organization that would not stand up to public nor congressional scrutiny. For Pete’s sake just look at the inconsistency of the NCAA rulings regarding the 5 Ohio State players vs its rulings on AJ Green, Marcel Dareus, etc. We could spend all day going over inconsistent rulings from the NCAA gestapo.

Tide Rising

January 15th, 2011
3:56 pm

“repeat serial violator”,

Below are the facts. Alabama has had 4 major infractions cases brought against it- all 4 cases coming in the 90s and the 2000s so there is no dispute that we’ve had serious issues in the last 15 years with the NCAA. But the facts below are that in alltime numbers of serious infractions cases AU is tied with several other schools for 3rd most. Alabama with 4 major cases is nowhere to be found on the list. Just the facts sir.

CHEATING HALL OF FAME THE TOP 29 NCAA DIVISION I TEAMS IN TERMS OF ALL-TIME MAJOR INFRACTIONS CASES.

Source is NCAA.ORG (ncaa legistlative database of major infractions cases)

1. Arizona state 8
2. SMU 8
3. Auburn, Minnesota, Oklahoma, Texas A&M, Whichita State, and Wisconsin all with 7 each.
4. Cal, FSU, Georgia, Illinois, Kansas, Kansas State, Kentucky, Memphis, and UCLA with 6 major cases each.
5. Baylor, Cincinatti, Colorado, Miami, Fl., Michigan State, Mississippi State, NC State, Texas-Pan American, USC, UTEP, Washington, and West Virginia all with 5 major infractions cases each.

SecGuy

January 15th, 2011
4:03 pm

Tony, the thing about 2010 I will remember is how much power ESPN is aquiring in college football. The ratings for virtually all the bowl games were down this year because only three bowl games could be seen without cable. I’m for capitalism but in these tough times it is pretty cold to lock out 15 million college football fans from enjoying the bowl season because for whatever reason they do not have access to ESPN. I get it that they’re trying to increase their subscribers, but I don’t think it does the game of college football a lot of good to have so many fans deliberately cut out.

jumbeauxtiger

January 15th, 2011
4:20 pm

MikeP, you keep saying that Auburn is not being investigating including citing that Joe Schad said on December 3 that the NCAA has closed its case on the War Eagles.

On Chris Low’s ESPN blog yesterday he said he was told by a NCAA official at the BCS title game that they are still investigating Auburn.

jumbeauxtiger

January 15th, 2011
4:21 pm

Joe Schad is also the same guy who said last week that Miles would take the Michigan job if offered.

Tide Rising

January 15th, 2011
4:37 pm

jumbeauxtiger,

What’s up jumbeaux. Don’t know if you saw the 2011 preseason rankings but it looks like Bama is #2 and LSU is 3 or 5 so both are top 5 in a lot of the polls. Ark is top 10 also in a lot of polls. With Mett at LSU I’m thinking Bama-LSU game already looms large as a potential semi final national title game in 2011. Both are pretty loaded as well as Ark and Miss state has 16 starters back. The west is going to be incredible in 2011. AU will take a step back with the loss of 24 seniors, 4 of 5 O-line starers, and impact players like Cam and Fairley but otherwise 4 teams in the west look incredibly strong for 2011.

MikeP

January 15th, 2011
6:01 pm

Fan of the Game
January 15th, 2011
10:43 am
“MikeP – If I rob a bank and don’t get the money but get caught I am still guilty. Cecil Newton ask for the money knowing it was against the rules so he is guilty, whether he got the money or not.”

Sure he is. The problem is this: He discussed money with a recruiter for Mississippi State. He did not discuss money at Oklahoma, Tennessee or Auburn, three other places he visited on recruiting trips. It appears that the money talks are linked to only MSU’s Kenny Rogers. Nobody actually involved at any level of this investigation has even alleged that Auburn did anything wrong.

So, if I rob a bank and don’t get any money, should you go to jail?

As for Chris Low saying the investigation isn’t over, he pretty much has to say that. After all, these guys have used Cam Newton and Auburn as their meal ticket for a couple of months now. As more and more of them give up on it, their website hits and viewers are steadily declining. They’ve got to try to keep it alive for as long as they can. Quoting Auburn linebacker Josh Bynes when talking to a reporter from The Sporting News: “If we told you the truth you wouldn’t print it. The truth doesn’t sell”.
There’s nothing like a good scandal, contrived or not, to sell hits on your website! Those guys don’t care about truth, justice or fairness, all they want is to keep the pot stirred so they maintain their business.

For the “Cam had to know” crowd: If, when you were 21, your father was hanging out with hookers or engaging in some other unsavory behavior would you have known it? I wouldn’t have.
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Bob/ Okeefe

January 15th, 2011
6:55 pm

Dream on Mike P

jumbeauxtiger

January 15th, 2011
8:14 pm

Tide Rising,

Congrats on the huge win over Michigan St. Yes I have noticed the 2011 polls and I’m excited. We both should be in the Top 5.

I agree the West will be tough again. It was great that the 5 in the division finished in the Top 15. That’s unheard of for a conference much less a division.

I would love for both of us to be undefeated when we play. It’s always alot of fun at the Capstone.

I hear that Texas is trying to hire Auburn’s OL coach and has given him through this weekend to make a decision. This could be another big loss for the War Eagles.

War Eagle

January 15th, 2011
8:20 pm

Tide Rising, there is no differnce in Cam Newton Case and Albert Means except it was PROVED in court an illegal payment was made to recruit Means AND PEOPLE WENT TO JAIL.
ALBERT MEANS ENROLLED AT ALABAMA.In July 20010 Newton was cleared by NCAA and SEC, Late in the season new evidence minister by Kenny Rogers and fuel by Jody Wright now an asst. coach at Alabama(asst. at Miss State earlier) another investigation was conducted and again NO evidence against Cam was found and he led Auburn to National Championship, won Heisman, Maxwell Awards and will make millions in NFL.
Alabama, UGA, Auburn and many NCAA schools have cheated in past years, so Rising stop trying to manipulate the blog
Get over it …ITS OVER, NCAA wil move on and so will Auburn. good luck 2010 except Auburn and UGA

Fan of the Game

January 15th, 2011
8:45 pm

MikeP – I didn’t say anything about Auburn being involved, but Cecil Newton was. I don’t care if he negotiated with Podunk, he is guilty. You said since no money was exchanged, he isn’t guilty of anything. Well he is! Oh bye the way Cam maybe didn’t know, but he may have. We will never find out the truth, because trouble follows this young man, so his credibility will never be any good.

War Eagle

January 15th, 2011
8:49 pm

wolfpacman

January 15th, 2011
8:55 pm

It’s about time for Cecil to come out of Auburn’s closet, and talk to the media. Auburn can only keep him locked up for so long.

MS. Bully

January 15th, 2011
8:59 pm

RIP #36 Nick Bell.

Rocky Top 2

January 15th, 2011
9:08 pm

You have to admit that Auburn and Cecil played all of us like fools, this season!

Tar Heel to GO!

January 15th, 2011
9:16 pm

Yeah, NCAA and SEC just stood there and let it happen, and even the press just backed off, and didn’t even challenge the Newtons’ stories. Pretty lame! I bet Dad’s are shopping their kids like crazy this recruiting season. Opens up a whole new market for sports agents.

War Eagle

January 15th, 2011
9:18 pm

New York Times?? this story is old news..Remember Alabama is a conservative state and the NY Times, well so know the rest 0f the story.

Rocky Top 2

January 15th, 2011
9:29 pm

NCAA is total joke!

MikeP

January 15th, 2011
9:56 pm

Tar Heel to GO! January 15th, 2011 9:16 pm
“Yeah, NCAA and SEC just stood there and let it happen, and even the press just backed off, and didn’t even challenge the Newtons’ stories. Pretty lame! I bet Dad’s are shopping their kids like crazy this recruiting season. Opens up a whole new market for sports agents.”

Wrong on two counts. SEC investigated for 11 months. NCAA investigated for five months. That’s “challenging”. After all that looking and determining that no money or other benefits changed hands, it was time to move on. You should too.

Dads shopping their kids….Why would they? The minute they get one dollar, the kid loses his eligibility. The NCAA clearly stated that the reason this case ended the way it did was because Cecil Newton received no money.

I see a Cwimpsin Tider put something up about NCAA violations. Auburn football’s last problem with the NCAA was 1991. That’s 20 years of good, clean living on the Rolling Plains. Bammer, however, is leading the pack in recent decades. Does “staring down the barrel” ring a bell in your memory?

AIR HAWGS

January 15th, 2011
9:56 pm

Cecil Newton lives here in Atlanta, and AJC never asks a single tough question of the Newtons. What’s up with that?

Fan of the Game

January 15th, 2011
9:59 pm

I am waiting to see what they are going to do with Pearl at Tenn. Like Vitale said, he should have been fired. You suspend Dez Bryant for a whole year for lying so either he should be suspended for a year or he should be fired.

Fan of the Game

January 15th, 2011
9:59 pm

The Newtons are just another example of beating the system.

Tar Heel to GO!

January 15th, 2011
10:08 pm

Mike P,
You can’t be serious. SEC hasn’t done jack! They have been focused only on the big payday, and making sure they got an SEC team into the Championship game. There has been no serious investigation, by anyone.
City of Newnan stated that no one had even come by to take a look at the City’s file on Cecil’s church.

Henry

January 15th, 2011
10:19 pm

Mike P,

Shopping your kid has been proven to work! The whole country has seen how easy it is to do. Your kid can just lie, and say he didn’t know about any thing. Pretty easy. Dad might get a slap on the wrist, however.

Thuga

January 15th, 2011
10:58 pm

Get a life people!

MADDOG

January 15th, 2011
11:29 pm

09/04/10 vs. Arkansas State Auburn, Ala. W, 52-26
09/09/10 at Mississippi State Starkville, Miss. W, 17-14
09/18/10 vs. Clemson Auburn, Ala. W, 27-24 (OT)
09/25/10 vs. South Carolina Auburn, Ala. W, 35-27
10/02/10 vs. Louisiana-Monroe Auburn, Ala. W, 52-3
10/09/10 at Kentucky Lexington, Ky. W, 37-34
10/16/10 vs. Arkansas Auburn, Ala. W, 65-43
10/23/10 vs. LSU Auburn, Ala. W, 24-17
10/30/10 at Mississippi Oxford, Miss. W, 51-31
11/06/10 vs. Chattanooga Auburn, Ala. W, 62-24
11/13/10 vs. Georgia Auburn, Ala. W, 49-31 :D
11/26/10 at Alabama Tuscaloosa, Ala. W, 28-27

NCAA declares Cam Newton eligible.

SEC Championship
12/04/10 vs. South Carolina Atlanta, Ga. W, 56-17

Heisman Trophy Winner: Cam Newton, Auburn University

BCS National Championship
01/10/11 vs. Oregon Glendale, Ariz. W, 22-19

Man, it feels sooooo good. Glad I’m not an Auburn hater, because I’d feel sooooo mad.

TrishaDishaWarEagle

January 15th, 2011
11:35 pm

What a crushing loss…Smitty..what happened???????

But I’m not going to be too down..I knew this was coming after we won the NC…nobody gets everything they really really REALLY REALLY REALLY want :(

I still love my falcons, I still love Matty Ice, I still love Turner, Tony G, Roddy, Grimey McGrimes….man..13-3 is so rare it just hurts to end this way but I love my Falcons and I thank Mr Blank, smitty, the coaching staff, and Thomas D for a wonderful season.

Now, go seahawks..I hope those cheeshead pr*cks have to go to Quest field next (they WANT to go to chicago) and lose their A**..then, GO AFC in the superbowl.. Falcons will be back!!!

MADDOG

January 15th, 2011
11:37 pm

Oh by the way, as to Cam, where’s the evidence he knew? Where is the evidence he was paid by Auburn? Where is the evidence he cheated at Florida and was about to get expelled? Where is the evidence?

Hence, NCAA made the right call. Now, if we’re going to start having to sit players mid season with a lack of evidence then I think you just showed every rival how to beat a team. First, make sure you have some boosters meet the kid on campus during an official visit, then second, if he has a breakout season then make an announcement that while on an official visit the kid and or his family asked for money. Then the NCAA will sit the kid and start an investigation.

The only people who’d be for that are UGA fans because they know they’ll never have a kid again that has a breakout season. :D

MADDOG

January 15th, 2011
11:38 pm

Oh, btw, Auburn is #1.

BoWeevil

January 16th, 2011
12:21 am

AJ Green, FLK, – NCAA suspension, gone
Justin Houston, OLB, – gone
Marcus Dowtin, ILB, – Arrested, Suspended, gone
Caleb King,TB, – Arrested, Suspended, Flunked off team
Dontavius Jackson, promising RB – Arrested, Suspended, gone
Montez Robinson, LB, – Arrested, Suspended, kicked off team, gone
Zach Mettenberger, QB, – Arrested, Suspended, kicked off team, gone
Kris Durham, SE, – gone
Clint Boling, OL, – gone
Chris Davis, OL, – gone
Josh Davis, OL, – gone
Shaun Chapas, FB, – gone
Akeem Hebron, ILB, gone
Quinton Banks, SS, injured, – gone
Kiante Tripp, DE, – gone
Fred Munzenmaier, FB, – gone
Brandon Wood, LE, – gone
Demarcus Dobbs, RE, – gone
Darryl Gamble, OLB, – gone
Akeem Dent, ILB, – gone

If you think these 19, all of whom we had this time last year, are replaced by last year’s 2010 class ranked # 17 recruiting class or are replaced by this year’s 2011 class ranked # 14 today, you are a DISNEYdawgs.com

Mo Money

January 16th, 2011
7:53 am

auburn and their big boosters bought a title with cash newton! HEY!

BoWeevil

January 16th, 2011
8:02 am

Nashville Ned

January 16th, 2011
9:33 am

Many NFL teams are probably going to ask Cam to take a lie detector test. It will be interesting to see if Cam refuses to take the tests, and if his value in the draft will drop if he refuses.

War Eagle

January 16th, 2011
9:35 am

If I was an NFL team spending millions on Cam, I would definitely have him take a lie detector test.

AIR HAWGS

January 16th, 2011
9:37 am

NFL lie detector tests could prove to be very interesting, indeed.

Warm Beagle

January 16th, 2011
10:28 am

Oh well… We we’re #1 for a day.

Now Oklahoma’s #1.

Thanks for the memories.

MikeP

January 16th, 2011
11:12 am

Henry
January 15th, 2011
10:19 pm
“Mike P, Shopping your kid has been proven to work! The whole country has seen how easy it is to do. Your kid can just lie, and say he didn’t know about any thing. Pretty easy. Dad might get a slap on the wrist, ”

Uh, what worked Henry? If Cecil had received any money, Cam wouldn’t have been eligible. If you can’t get money, why go to the trouble? “it worked” doesn’t make any sense. Remember, Kenny Rogers approached Cecil about money, not vice-versa.

Now this is a blast! Have you guys given up on “the FBI will get you” and moved on to “The NFL will require lie detector tests”? Puhleeeeze!. Talk about grasping at straws!

If there is any investigation going, it’s directed at Mississippi State, not Auburn. Look at the Albert Means case. Bammer paid the money, later Means transferred to Memphis and played. Who got in trouble? Bammer did, not Memphis. In the Newton case it has been established that no money changed hands. It’s even questionable if Kenny Rogers was acting on behalf of State or if he was trying to get his hands on cash without State’s knowledge. The latter is more likely.

For those of you wondering why the media hasn’t done more, etc, the answer is simple. As soon as they dig into things they find out nothing is there. A good example is the TV reporter that went to Newnan and looked at the minutes of the city council meetings. Turns out Cecil had the money to fix his church in July of 2009, six months BEFORE Cam signed with Auburn. Gee, that’s no fun! As Josh Bynes said “The truth doesn’t sell.”

You all need to accept the fact that Auburn whipped everybody fair and square and move on with your lives, you’ll sleep better.

Explain This BAMA "dude"...

January 16th, 2011
12:16 pm

This from 2009:

The NCAA Committee on Infractions called the University of Alabama a “serial repeat violator” with an “abysmal infractions track record” and an “extensive recent history of infractions cases unmatched by any other member institution in the NCAA,”

dawg777

January 16th, 2011
1:05 pm

WHERE DID CECIL NEWTON GET THE THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS TO GO TO THE NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP GAME IN ARIZONA ? HE WAS AT THE GAME, LET SEE !!TICKETS, FOOD AND MOTEL = THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS. DID AUBURN BOOSTERS GIVE HIM THE MONEY? ALL SO CECIL WAS NOT SUPPOSE TO BE NEAR THE AUBURN PROGRAM . BUT CAM NEWTON KNEW RIGHT WHERE HE WAS SITTING IN A CROWD OF 78,603 PEOPLE ,CECIL NEWTON BROKE THE AGREEMENT BETWEEN AUBURN AND THE NCAA .

Tony Geinzer

January 16th, 2011
2:43 pm

Tony, I can say bad riddance to Dirty Rotten Apples, including AJ and Cam, and too, I have been fighting this Playoff Fight For Years and the way some folks tarred Carolina still angers me and I feel that Boise and Bama are due to cross paths in 2011.

Dawg Tired

January 16th, 2011
2:48 pm

Let’s get one thing straight: The SEC rule says if a parent (among others) asks for money in return for his athlete/child to play for ANY TEAM in the SEC, the athlete/child is ineligible to play for any team in the SEC. That rule was violated. The SEC choose to ignore the violation. The explanation offered by the SEC was lame at best. Let’s just admit the SEC sold whatever integrity it had so Auburn could play for the NC. So be it. Just quit pretending there was no violation.

War Eagle

January 16th, 2011
3:04 pm

Just to let never one know I will not comment again on this topic,SO BAMA STOP USING MY USERNAME

MikeP

January 16th, 2011
3:09 pm

By Dawg Tired: “….The SEC choose to ignore the violation. The explanation offered by the SEC was lame at best. Let’s just admit the SEC sold whatever integrity it had so Auburn could play for the NC”

Dawg Tired, the SEC started investigating this last January. Tell me how they knew Auburn would be in the NC game eight months before the season even started. You don’t know the specific rules, the SEC compliance office does.

dawg 777, It’s nobody’s business where Cecil got the money to attend the game in Arizona. This is America and private citizens can go where ever they please. Auburn University and the NCAA can make all the agreements they want to, those agreements are not laws. There is no way that Auburn or the NCAA could prevent Cecil Newton from attending a public event in Glendale, Arizona.

Crimson Crush

January 16th, 2011
7:59 pm

In what is one in a string of articles in nationwide publications that MikeP claims don’t exist or if they do exist … are discredited … USA Today wrote an interesting piece on the latest PUBLIC meeting by the NCAA brass

NCAA president Emmert sets no-nonsense tone in address ( is the title ;-) )

I for one think Mike P should fire up his email client right away because clearly the writer doesn’t understand that “everything is over … Auburn was cleared and found fully 100 % forever and all time innocent” .

That particular writer in one of these latest articles ( along with the rest of the nation outside the Manson “Family” ) seems to be under the impression that while the ELIGIBILITY staff had to take the word of the lying AU admin and let $Cam skate … “A more in-depth probe by the ENFORCEMENT staff continues.” :-)

Now this has been repeated … over … and over … and over … and over … and over …. and over … and over … and over … and over … and over (my ability to cut paste just can’t hang with Mike Ps ability to live in denial ) Still … even the dumbest Boog will have to realize at some point … that AU has far from skated . To believe something like that you would have to be the type person who believes a laptop thief/paid Auburn pro athlete who tosses the stolen goods out a window when the cops arrive … “just bought it ” LOL

Auburn Cheats

January 16th, 2011
9:19 pm

Can’t believe fools are still buying that poor Cam was almost done in by his father. Anyone with a brain knows that Cam knew everything that was going on. Anyone with a brain knows that Auburn cheated to get him and that the SEC and NCAA turned a blind eye to maintain the cash cow that is the BCS championship game.

MikeP

January 17th, 2011
12:12 am

Cwimpsin Crush, I read that article. It appears your reading comprehension is not so hot. All you are seeing is what you want to see, and it’s not there. Any sort of ongoing investigation is in Mississippi. Auburn is not going to “skate”, Auburn has already skated all the way to the National Championship. The Auburn end of the investigation was over before December 2nd. Learn to live with that fact.

The main thrust of the article is that some new rules will be considered. This concerns Auburn how, exactly?

12 CRIMINAL CHARGES 6 wins 7 LOSSES

January 17th, 2011
7:26 am

Hey “Mr” College Football (joke)—-what about GA winning The Richt Cup? How can you ignore that?

sec rules

January 17th, 2011
9:28 am

MikeP

January 17th, 2011
10:04 am

All you guys that think Auburn paid for Cam Newton: The thing you have to do is simple,,,,all you have to do is figure out how the Newtons, a family of moderate means, hid $200,000 in cash from teams of experienced investigators for over a year.

The SEC and NCAA investigative teams have visited in the Newton home, the NCAA’s team twice. Cecil voluntarily turned over all family and church financial records to both the SEC and NCAA.

In over a year, no flashy new clothes, no big-box TV’s and things of that sort, no sporty new cars, no cruises or week-long trips to Europe, no home remodeling. What do you claim that they did with the money? Why get it and not spend it? Cam Newton rode a Mo-ped scooter around campus all year and owned no other vehicle. Do you think they did without things all this time with $200k sitting in a paper bag? Get real.

It’s simple: Show me the money. Until then, you are just a bunch of jealous fans of rival teams that can’t stand Auburn’s success.
Get used to Auburn’s success, Gene Chizik and his staff of energetic young coaches are just now getting started. It’s a great time to be an Auburn Tiger!

Crimson Crush

January 17th, 2011
2:15 pm

First of all … to claim or even halfass imply that the NCAA or the SEC had investigators out “for over a year” is a flat out lie . One of the BIG things being discussed is HOW to tighten up the reporting and action timelines . After reporting only the bare minimum ( that SOMETHING had occurred ) around spring practice , Mississippi State didn’t bother actually getting back around to actually responding to the SEC request for more information until JULY .

They spent their own good time playing finger **** with the information provided … and then decided it might be a good idea to ask the saintly Aubrun “family” what they thought about it all . ( By that time is was kickoff time in college football )

Being the fine upstanding upholders of college football integrity that the Auburn clan .. “family” is … they went right to work out digging out every scrap of information they could find . No expense was spared . This investigation was going to be bigger than the hunt for Pat Dye’s lost pants !!!!

Of course , like Sgt. Schultz , they found notttthingggggg . As far as they could tell poor little Cammy Cam was a simple preachers son who had never stolen so much as a laptop . But being sooooooooo concerned about the “integrity of the game” and the “good name” of the Barn … they decided to take an extra lonnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnngggggggggg look … you know …. just to make sure . Can’t be too careful .

In THAT interim ( more than halfway through the frigging season ) was when the NCAA got tired of being publicly kicked in the azz for allowing the barely semi-literate $Cam continue to play while other schools were threatened with forfeits if they even THOUGHT about playing kids who might be later ruled ineligible .

Too many public reports about the game of dragazz being played by Auburn … too many explicit details … and FINALLY … in NOVEMBER the NCAA decides … ehhhh … what the hell … let’s send some people down there … AU seems to be taking an awful long time to clear this up .

Now granted … at that point you might actually forgive the NCAA for being dumbfounded at the fact that ANY school would look them in them eye … and basically say … We really don’t care if we get busted down the road or not … at least for once in our pathetic lives we might get a brief glimmer of what it feels like to be like Alabama playing for all the marbles :-)

And so they up the ante … ALL IN as you idiots loved to flaunt and taunt to the NCAA and the rest of college football on signs at every venue .

the AU crooks in charge wait until the Laptop Thief Supreme and best paid player in college football had FINALLY delivered them (multiple times ) by the skin of their teeth through the regular season … and then declare Mr. $Cam “ineligible” … with the fine understanding that due to the schools own game of dragass and obstruction … no “smoking gun” that would 100 % bench him existed .

While already mentioned … it should be repeated … NO ONE from the NCAA has exonerated $Cam , AU or the Colonial Bank robbing crew that runs AU . The NCAA simply ran into a situation where the AU inbreeds yelled prove it tomorrow or we will play him consequences be damned .

Having a school’s own admin look you flat in the eye and let you know that a shot at a once in a lifetime( for AU people anyway ;-) shot at even Pyrrhic “glory” was more important to them than any potential fallout that might come later … they were ALLIN consequences , appearances and any potential damage to AU’s “integrity” be damned …

It caught the NCAA staff flat footed . They had no procedure to deal with a school that was willing to piss on the rulebook , tell them it was raining and then give them a smart ass “Prove it isn’t . But don’t worry there Skippy … they will :-)

Chizik and “Krew” just getting started is the silliest joke in all of what you wrote . Chizik isn’t a real head coach you tool . He is the head cleanup boy for the AU bank busting bag men . Nothing more … nothing less . Mark Richt has a FAR better chance of lasting at Georgia than Cheezestik … simply because Richt actually HAS a chance .

But … at this point .. I don’t really blame YOU personally Mike P … all you really have left is “You can’t prove any of this…(yet) ”

You know as well as we do … AU isn’t going to be jack chi* going forward … Chizik and Krew at AU are now on 24 hour watch for EVERYTHING they do … and the AU crooks that have greased the wheels for the cheat machine are either broke , going broke or headed to jail .

So you hang on to that little scrap of soiled AU National Championship blankie there bub . It is a once in a lifetime type thing for an AU backer to even smell a soiled one .

Someday … when you are trying to explain to your own grand kids what it felt like to watch AU and $Cam cheat their way to the top … you can take a long obscene sniff and sob out a heartfelt rendition of “We Were (once) The Champions” LOL

MikeP

January 17th, 2011
5:25 pm

Look, Bamzo:The only things you put out there as facts are parts of a dateline, which is as wrong as it can be. MSU informed the SEC of a possible problem on January 5th, the day after Newton signed with Auburn. SEC notified Auburn at that time. The SEC investigates for 10 months, Auburn compliance office investigates for ten months, NCAA investigative team works the case for five months. All that lookin’ and nothing found. No indication of one red cent of extra benefits.

The rest of everything you wrote is simply spewing jealous bile and wishful thinking. Get used to Coach Chizik and staff continuing Auburn’s dominance of the iron Bowl. This year’s beatdown was seven of the last nine for Auburn, in case you lost count.

Forget all the BS you wrote and do one simple thing; show me the money. Since the investigators have all moved on to other places your dreams of Auburn getting in trouble have fallen like a brick thrown through Bill Curry’s window. They didn’t find any money while they were looking and now they have stopped looking.

So sad for you, to have your dreams hanging on another school’s problem and then find out they don’t have a problem.

Crimson Crush

January 17th, 2011
11:19 pm

We are’nt talking Aubrun fantasy land here bub . Mississippi State gave the SEC a heads up early in the year BUT did NOT get get BACK to the SEC office with a requested report until JULY . There is no reason to debate this with your dumba** .

Anyone with just a fraction of skill using Google can find … not only the dozens of articles detailing the timeline … but the also the followup articles since that time where BOTH the SEC head office AND the NCAA has came out over the last few weeks and said they have GOT to tighten up the rules on how fast schools get back to them with proper information . This isn’t a you said potato and I said potata debate you chowderhead . That is simply the harsh facts ( if you are an Aubrun fan ;-) )

As far as “dreams” … I am a Bama fan bub … you should know who we are . If you don’t … look the program up some time . You can start with the final recruiting rankings in two weeks . Or the in the pre-season and postseason college polls next year …

You have had your once a century run … however long it stands up . The Tide … we will remain forever … Bama … :-)

It really doesn’t matter what the Barn does to try and boost their standing … buys a once in a Barnyard lifetime championship with a 2010 version of Lennie Small … gets it yanked because you can’t even cheat right … or when goes unranked at seasons end next year because the pay train is being shot full of holes as we type and ( Chizik is about as much a true head coach as I am a reincarnated General Patton )

You will ALWAYS remain THE University of Auburn (located in west Georgia ? ) to the rest of the nation … ( or just Alabama Polytechnic Institute to those of us who know you best ;-) )

All the you clowns will have managed to accomplish with the IN YOUR FACE WE CHEATED and WE DON”T CARE We ARE ALL IN signs at every game is to hack off the rest of college football fans nationwide . Every revelation from here on out will simply harden that fact . :-)

You keep trying to hold that dike back lil Dutch boy …. You don’t have enough fingers to plug all the holes … even in what you attempt to write here … forget the leaks busting out in Auburn LOL

MikeP

January 18th, 2011
11:12 am

I see you continue to write out your daydreams of Auburn’s demise. I know very well who UAT is. It’s the school where Auburn owns their home field to the tune of 7-1 all time. We call that place Jordan-Hare West, you know.

As for your dying hopes of Auburn getting in trouble, I’ve already told you the solution is simple. All you have to do is find the money. If you can’t, case closed.

The rest of your spiteful blather is, well, the helpless blather of someone seeing his rival passing him at every turn. They tell me Valium is still a good tranquilizer, ask your doctor about a prescription.

War Eagle, ALL IN!

Crimson Crush

January 18th, 2011
5:14 pm

Now you just sound plain silly . AU isn’t even passing LSUor for that matter Arkansas in the SEC West … let alone Bama . No one with an ounce of football knowledge is even putting AU in the top 10 next year …. forget the top 5 . One and done makes you … one … and done LOL

I suppose you haven’t bothered to check your own schedule or for that matter your roster lately. You will need a lot more than a couple of pay for play $Cammy $Cam and Nick ” I love to hit people late in the back ” Fairley’s to carry next years scrubs . You guys have lost your veteran chop blockers on the O line . No need to even bother discussing your defense ;-)

As far as the finding the money trail to $Cammy … that is one of only SEVERAL different ways to skin this cat . All will get covered before this is over .

Just for your FYI … I have already told you previously … I (rhymes with EYE … or AYE ) don’t need to find anything . That work is already being handled by professionals .

I will say this . You suggest Valium due to a condition you seem to think is caused by AU “passing” Bama “at every turn” . Ignoring the straight out pure comedy gold of that statement .. I will let you know that I have never dreamed in my life that AU actually bumbling and buying their way into a “championship” would be actually be a cause for this much sheer enjoyment . :-)

I get to see the same group of hypocrites who last year guffawed at Bama fans because a pre-arraned outside the school corporate sponsor put the BCS trophy in Wal Mart ( the thinking by the AU “fambly” was … what the hell … it is not like we will ever win one )

THIS year ( THIS WEEK actually ) the pics are already flying of the AU “fambly” members standing like a bunch of slope head goobs hunkered around their bought ( well leased …rented … what’s the difference ? ) “glory” . And of course … they all are AU graduates … because … you know … AU doesn’t have anyone rooting for them that didn’t attend school there LOL

Nah … I see no reason .. at ALL to need “valium” . AU is falling part at the seams … but the more inbred and insane “fambly” members seem to think they are “passing Bama at every turn”. The set up for the fall is insane(ly funny) to this Tide (and college football ) fan . ;-)

Knowing how many in the AU crew of wife beater “fans” are just one (inevitable ) bad news story away from a cheap case of rot gut vodka and a .22 pacifier is the most soothing med available for this fan of college football ;-)

MikeP

January 18th, 2011
9:34 pm

Surely you don’t think your last bit of nonsensical ranting is worthy of comment?

Gene Chizik and his great staff will not only continue, but increase the dominance Auburn has enjoyed over UAT since Bahr quit over there. Your best bet is to go back in time and “discover” another championship like that 1941 farce you bamzos hang a flag for. Finish 3rd in the SEC, 20th in the AP poll and yet bammer claims a championship for 1941. What a HOOT!

No wonder y’all are college football’s laughing stock.

War Eagle, ALL IN!

MikeP

January 18th, 2011
11:35 pm

“Coach Gene Chizik was awarded the Paul “Bear” Bryant Coach of the Year Award. This award, ever since it was created, has been won by each of the past three Auburn coaches- Bowden, Tuberville, and now Chizik.”

Thanks, Bahr. Another Auburn tradition; winning the Bryant Coach of the Year Award.

You Have A Serious Problem Crush!

January 20th, 2011
10:07 am

Is Crimson Crush really a Bama fan or is he just some loony-tune on a weekend pass from the Funny Farm? Tried to get through a few lines of his nonsense and it’s barely even legible. Makes the Tucson gunman look sane by comparison!