Rich Rod is out. Will Michigan go after Les Miles again?

Congratulations to The Ohio State University for beating Arkansas in the Sugar Bowl and posting its first win over an SEC team in a bowl game. It has been duly noted that thanks to the creative enforcement of the NCAA,  Terrelle Pryor and the rest of the Ohio State Five made their contributions to the victory and we salute you for it. College football  looks forward to having each and every one of  you back for the 2011 season, when you will serve your five-game suspension. (Regular readers of this blog may insert their well wishes here.)

Wait a minute Tony, you SEC shill. Isn’t Auburn’s Cameron Newton playing in the national championship game Monday night because of  the same inexplicable NCAA enforcement process?

Nope. I’ll explain on Thusday but today I want to talk about something fun.

And oh my goodness, this has a chance to be fun.

Michigan finally announced Wednesday morning that coach Rich Rodriguez has been fired.

There is no doubt that Michigan’s No. 1 choice is Stanford’ Jim Harbaugh but it sounds like he is not interested in returning to his alma mater

So if Harbaugh stays at Stanford or goes to the NFL, does Michigan take another run at at LSU’s Les Miles?

Miles was an offensive guard for Bo Schembechler from 1973-75. Randy Rosetta of the Baton Rouge Morning Advocate reports that Miles played one of those seasons with Brandon, who was a backup quarterback for Michigan and went on to make a fortune in the pizza business.

It’s pretty clear that a lot of the lettermen and alumni want a “Michigan man” back in charge of the program.

Remember that on Championship Saturday, 2007, ESPN’s Kirk Herbstreit reportered that Miles was headed back to Michigan. Just hours before the SEC Championship game in Atlanta LSU called a press conference and Miles angrily denied the report and said he was staying put. Miles  became a member of the YouTube Hall of Fame that day when he told us to “Have A Great Day.” Then his LSU team went on to win the SEC championship and the National Championship.

Miles was bumped up to a salary of $3.751 million (one thousand more than Nick Saban) the following year) and he stayed at LSU.

But since the national championship in 2007 Miles has caught more than his fair share of grief. After some of the time management gaffes of 2009 and the continuing struggles on offense, a lot of LSU people wanted this guy gone. For about 90 seconds, when it appeared LSU had lost to Tennessee back in October, it appeared Miles was done at LSU.

Miles just pulls one escape after another and this season he beat Alabama, won 10 games, and has the Tigers in Friday’s Cotton Bowl against Texas A&M.

So if Michigan offers, would he be tempted to go this time?

A word of advice for the Michigan athletics director. If you really want the LSU coach you really only have to say two things to him:’

1) We would like the priviledge of  paying you $5 million per year to coach our football team.

2) Michigan needs you.  Bo would want you to come home and get us back to the Rose Bowl.

I think that would do it. Les Miles might just decide it is time to move on from the weekly insanity that is the SEC. And even if he stays in Baton Rouge, the process would be a really entertaining thing to watch.

If you were Les Miles and your alma called, would you go?

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509 comments Add your comment

AngryBullDawgFan

January 5th, 2011
7:48 am

TB,

My hunch is that while Les might seriously consider it he will slowly back away from taking the job. I think Michigan has other big issues right now.

wesleywhatwhat

January 5th, 2011
7:56 am

“tony barnhart – sec shill”

isn’t that what it says on his business cards?

UGASlobberknocker

January 5th, 2011
7:56 am

If I were Miles I would take a Michigan offer in about 2 seconds. The LSU fans have never embraced him..why not go back to his alma mater? The bigger question is ..has Miles coached himself out of contention with Mich.because of his kamikaze style.

Loyd Carr

January 5th, 2011
7:57 am

Miles won’t get it if I have any say so!

Jay

January 5th, 2011
7:58 am

And oh, by the way, does anyone really seriously think that Terrelle Pryor and the other draft-eligible Buckeyes who are “suspended” for the start of next season WON’T declare for the draft, pre-game “promises” notwithstanding?

wesleywhatwhat

January 5th, 2011
7:59 am

les miles got lucky getting the lsu job. anyone watching the games can see that his game time skills are lacking.

after seeing him “coach” the past few years, i doubt michigan wants any part of him.

why follow one overmatched coach (richrod) with another?

Jeff

January 5th, 2011
8:00 am

What a joke the NCAA is….Ohio State and Jim Tressel are just as much of a joke……we need to call the NCAA what they are- nothing more than dirt on the floor with a clear agenda for some schools. That this is allowed to go on shows you what college football has become.

Joe D.

January 5th, 2011
8:01 am

Beating Arkansas doesn’t count as a win over an SEC team…They are somewhere in between the SWC, Big 12 and SEC…A true hybrid.

wesleywhatwhat

January 5th, 2011
8:02 am

and for what it’s worth, only tony barnhart would pretend like the osu situation of players trading swag for discounted tattoos is even slightly comparable to NEWTON’S FAMILY SHOPPING A PLAYER TO THE HIGHEST BIDDER.

poor guy must have spent too much time in sec country. his moral compass always points south.

ga gator

January 5th, 2011
8:02 am

RYAN MALLETT=RYAN LEAF

All world talent but the 2nd worse headcase ever.

By the way Les Miles is as good as gone. He is underappreciated at LSU. He might be the luckiest coach in the NCAA, but he is an outstanding gameday coach.

Herschel Talker

January 5th, 2011
8:02 am

Tony:

You’re a clown for continuing to say that Mark Richt deserves to keep his job. I guess you’re just trying to rile things up, being a UGA alum. Get real dude.

HT

Herschel Walker

January 5th, 2011
8:03 am

he’s gone…he’ll take the Michigun job

82Dawg

January 5th, 2011
8:04 am

HT… still waiting on, who you want as coach at Georgia

wesleywhatwhat

January 5th, 2011
8:06 am

i second the clown opinion above: only a clown would suggest that les miles is worth $5 million a year.

do miles and barnhart share a time share or something?

Capt.HarryCane

January 5th, 2011
8:08 am

Don’t think it’s going to happen, Harbaugh or Miles. Frankly I don’t think it’s necessary. I like Michigan but am not one of the rabid group that never wanted RR here. RR had the only piece missing from his offense lined up, a potential superstar running back to keep defenses from keying on the QB, until the decommit due to the potential firing of RR. The defense has always been the problem. Fix the defense and this team gets lightyears better instantly. And guess what, one of the best defensive minds in the country is doing nothing right now. Michigan hires Randy Shannon and they not only fix their issues on defense, they get a pipeline directly into South Florida for recruiting. The only problem is that I have serious doubts that the Michigan AD is smart enough to figure this out.

StoneColdDawg

January 5th, 2011
8:08 am

I can see Miles going back home where he can feast on a weak conference with only 1 or 2 slightly tough games a year vs. the gauntlet known as the SEC.

Jim Tressell, if he trully was a man of integrity, should of sat the 5 suspended players for the Sugar Bowl and shown the nation he means business. But since it’s a business, he and the NCAA showed the money meant more than integrity with that meaningless penalty. At least 3 of the 5 WON’T be back next year. So much for the pledge they made to return.

luckeyes

January 5th, 2011
8:09 am

The Ohio State Univ wins with a * over SEC!

AUtoo

January 5th, 2011
8:11 am

May be adding the * after Monday night.Or is it already there?

innocent bystander

January 5th, 2011
8:14 am

What the announcer said during the game that they were the only team in the Big Ten who reminded him of an SEC team was because only an SEC team would play players who were of questionable ethics. TRESSEL IS READY TO BE AN SEC COACH!!

SimpleDawg

January 5th, 2011
8:14 am

Well, the Buckeyes can be proud of their finally winning a bowl game over a SEC team…..even if they used ineligible eligible players.

Of course, if Arkansas had not had a severe case of stage fright, the Buckeye victory would never have happened. Even Booby Putrid looked as if needed a couple of strong doses of Imodium…..and a cork.

Meechigan has a problem. They were positive that Harbaugh would jump at the chance to return to Big Blue as a savior……only to be told that he wasn’t leaving Stanford for anything but the NFL. Oops…..now what do we do? They couldn’t wait to fire Rich Rod; now they may be stuck with either him or a second…or third choice.

As for Miles, surely Meechigan wouldn’t make a second stupid hire….or would they? Miles won at LSU in spite of his coaching and game mismanagement.

Either way it is a shame to see a grand program flounder this way…..

OH yeah, Buk IZE

January 5th, 2011
8:17 am

Thank you, Arkansas Crimson Tide. I knew the SEC couldn’t hold out against Ohio State forever.

Kevin Greene

January 5th, 2011
8:17 am

The question not asked is “has ‘The Mad Hatter’ moniker made Les untouchable to any big time program?”

Saban Looks Like Willie B

January 5th, 2011
8:17 am

Actually Wesley there is a huge difference because no money ever changed hands in the Kenny Rogers scheme. If they shopped him “to the highest bidder” how come no one has come forward other than MSU boosters? There you go again making accusations when you don’t even know the facts of the case. In order to “shop someone around” there has to be more than 1 party who was asked for money. Since you know more than the NCAA does, where did the money go? They have pored over the Newton’s financial records and bank statements and can’t find anything. Let me guess, Cecil Newton opened a Swiss bank account to hide 200k? Or maybe you can come up with another wild conspiracy theory that I can debunk. Run quick Wesley I think I saw Cecil Newton on the grassy knoll!

in a nutshell

January 5th, 2011
8:17 am

Michigan sure as heck wont go after Mark Richt.

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January 5th, 2011
8:20 am

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Capt.HarryCane

January 5th, 2011
8:21 am

StoneColdDawg is right about Tressel. I hate the Buckheads with a passion but Tressel has always seemed to be a coach with honor. I always wished he was somewhere else where I could respect his work. Now, he’s shown his true colors by selling his honor for a win over the SEC. He knew damn well that this group’s pledges to come back in 2011 are worthless. At least 3 of them will renege on this pledge and Tressel will look like a fool to everyone but the blind faithful of the Buckhead nation. The problem is that by the beginning of next season no one will be saying much about it because ESPN is hand in hand with the BCS and the big money behind it. This issue gets muted by next season and the other networks will fall in line. Same for the Cam Newton situation.

Gator Mike

January 5th, 2011
8:21 am

Tony, thanks for the levity in today’s article. Most of us in the South do not care what happens at Michigan. Additionally, many LSU fans have not totally embraced Miles.
Has anyone heard anything about the alleged arrests of Pryor (OSU) while driving “loaner” cars from a Columbus, OH car dealer? If true, OSU may have more problems in the near future.
Happy New Year to everyone.

Pat Haden

January 5th, 2011
8:22 am

I’m wondering how you’re going to justify Cam Newton’s nonsuspension.

OSU in the ATL

January 5th, 2011
8:25 am

Best quote of the morning: “The Buckeyes players and the marching band cavorted on the Louisiana Superdome turf while OSU fans – a significant minority during the game – its fans serenaded the Razorbacks with a mock S-E-C! chant.” It’s just like ignorant SEC fans to lessen this win by making up wild claims (i.e. ARK is an SWC team). Ohio State is royalty of college football and can play with any team in the country every year. Now, out team proved it on the field. Go Bucks! S-E-C, S-E-C…ha, ha, ha, ha

BAMA

January 5th, 2011
8:27 am

The grass probably taste better in Louisiana than in Michigan. Who eats grass anyways ? I have known that some people that smoke it but Les Miles is the only person that I have saw eat it and he did it on national tv. Would you really want a coach that eats grass ?

Paul in RDU

January 5th, 2011
8:27 am

Michigan’s last 3 years under Carr – 7-5 11-2 9-4
Rich Rod’s 3 years – 3-9 5-7 7-6
Rich Rod is toast – poor record and the alumni hate him. UM would love to have Harbaugh but he’s likely going to the NFL. I expect them to make a run at Miles but who knows for sure.

Saban Looks Like Willie B

January 5th, 2011
8:28 am

Let me ask you this Wesley, since you seem to think you know everything. If your father or uncle, brother-in-law, or your cousin’s brother’s wife’s dog decides to accept cash or gifts for you to go to school without your knowledge, why should YOU be punished? You CANNOT control what others around you do! Maybe Cam knew, maybe he didn’t. Until you can prove that he knew, quit beating a dead horse and let’s talk some football.

gadawg0711

January 5th, 2011
8:28 am

I’m no expert in how to hide money but would think the easiest way is to accept cash and have no paper trail. So the NCAA can dig forever and they still won’t see anything. I can care less if Cecil Newton took money, which i would think he did since he was surely shopping his son. But if Cam didn’t know, he shouldn’t be punished. If they did it and got away with it, more power to them. The guys at OHU broke rules and had there punishment put off until next year so they would get to play in the bowl game. I have no doubt that without these guys, Arkansas wins going away. This was all about pleasing the bowl game and keeping the big name players on the field. NCAA is a freaking joke!

gadawg0711

January 5th, 2011
8:29 am

should be OSU, sorry

[...] Could LSU coach Les Miles be an option to return home to Michigan? (Atlanta Journal Constitution) [...]

Gatorzip 74

January 5th, 2011
8:30 am

Enter your comments here

Les W. Moore

January 5th, 2011
8:30 am

I got nothing to say, today. Check back later.

Gatorzip 74

January 5th, 2011
8:32 am

Joe D.
You hit the nail on the head. Arky isn’t from the SEC and doesn’t play defense like a great SEC team. I say kick them out for losing to the Buckeyes and bring in FSU.

MB

January 5th, 2011
8:32 am

If you fail at your home school…..then you can never go back. Also Miles gets by on the talent he has. There is no way Michigan has recruited enough talent lately to make up for his mistakes. For all the games he won; Les Miles could be one of the worst game managers.

where does it end?

January 5th, 2011
8:33 am

We talking $5mil for a coach now?

Saban Looks Like Willie B

January 5th, 2011
8:33 am

Well “Pat Haden” let’s start with the fact that Auburn has not even been accused of anything yet! It’s quite the opposite, in order to justify suspending Cam, they would have to either prove that he knew about the PFP scheme, or that Auburn boosters provided extra benefits or cash. So far they have have proved neither, therefore Newton is eligible at AU.

Gatorzip 74

January 5th, 2011
8:35 am

OSU in ATL
You’re a fool for thinking that the Buckeyes could compete week in/week out in the SEC. Arky’s defense sucks and you still barely hung on for the win.

Starring Kam Fong as Chin Ho

January 5th, 2011
8:36 am

@OSU in the ATL, 1 win in ten tries doesn’t make OSU royalty, it makes them Ga Tech.

Bo Jackson

January 5th, 2011
8:36 am

I think Les will leave if he gets the offer. Well if Ohio has sat out those players and Ark won then it wouldnt really mean anything. So talking about it is really a moot point. I think Ark would rather have played Ohio’s full team that a weak partial team.
See yall Monday!!
Bo

Big Al

January 5th, 2011
8:37 am

Looking forward to Thursday and more rationalization.

MB

January 5th, 2011
8:37 am

Can someone name the last UGA football head coach to get another job in coaching after leaving UGA?

StoneColdDawg

January 5th, 2011
8:39 am

@ Pat Haden- Newton immediately became ineligible by NCAA and SEC rules by what was proven by the NCAA inquiry that Cecil solicited the play for pay deal at MSU. It only took a blind eye and a clear, purposeful “interpretation” of said rules all in the name of the almighty dollar to allow Cam to continue to play when he should have been benched. Nowhere in the rules does it say Cam had to know, so the SEC and NCAA came up with the “mitigating circumstances” line to give them the latitude to do the wrong thing.

Any justification by anyone that the NCAA ruling on this is correct shows how corrupt college football has become and that’s just sad.

Starring Kam Fong as Chin Ho

January 5th, 2011
8:39 am

@ MB, UGA is not a stepping stone job. Any other job would be a step down.

AuTigerAtl

January 5th, 2011
8:40 am

All the whining and excuses and false accusations and just plain silly crap that emanates from all you various “dawg” people is making me sick. If, if, if. Get over it. Here’s the only “if” that matters. If you’d scored more points than your opponents, you’d have won more games. But you didn’t. That’s the bottom line. Same with bammer. You didn’t. So lose all the garbage about stage freight, the silly conspiracy theories about the SEC commissioner dictating wins and losses. It’s silly. It’s stupid. It’s juvenile. Stop it! Now everybody, all together now. “WAR EAGLE!”

6 points and a cloud of Bobo

January 5th, 2011
8:40 am

THE Louisiana State University will keep Les Miles.

ratherBgambling

January 5th, 2011
8:40 am

Anyone heard how much is Pryor selling his MVP trophy for?

NoGaGator

January 5th, 2011
8:41 am

OSU in the ATL -

So what’s your record now against the SEC Bucknut, 1-9? Yeah, you really have room to talk alright.

I still remember 4 yrs ago when the heavily-favored “royalty” was emasculated by UF in Glendale. 85 yds total offense by your Heisman-winning QB. This just in – Troy Smith sacked again!!

The only royalty you are is the inbred, hump-backed knave half-brother the king has to keep in the closet.

Macon

January 5th, 2011
8:41 am

Acutally, Tony’s business card says:

Senior Executive SEC W-h-o-r-e
BCS Shill-at-Large

Got that?

SOGADOG

January 5th, 2011
8:41 am

OSU in ATL: If Ohio State is “royalty” and can “play with any team in the country every year”, how come they are 1-9 against the SEC in bowl games? Congrats to Ohio State this year though, they looked great against Arky.

ATLBadger

January 5th, 2011
8:42 am

You sound so bitter, Tony!

OSU in the ATL

January 5th, 2011
8:42 am

No, Gatorzip-head, you’re the fool. The SEC is not the NFC East. It’s a conference that has 3-4 good teams just like any other conference. How does it feel to have lived a lie your whole life, thinking the SEC is this God-like entity? Thinking Ohio State couldn’t hang week in and week out in the mighty SEC is a joke. Ohio State gets kids from Ohio, Florida, Georgia, Texas, etc. Isn’t that where the mighty SEC gets their kids? And most of the kids who go to SEC schools couldn’t get in to Ohio State anyways…You don’t have to be a genius, but you do have to have some sort of academic standing, which SEC schools don’t have. Sore loser…

Saban Looks Like Willie B

January 5th, 2011
8:42 am

Amazing how folks on here think they know more than the entire enforcement and investigative arm of the NCAA. Arm-chair Quarter-backing an NCAA investigation is the newest craze apparently…..

allenlaw

January 5th, 2011
8:42 am

Hey, MB, I see your point about Georgia coaches not going elsewhere. I, too, am proud that the University of Georgia is not a steppingstone to other jobs. :)

Seriously, who would want to be a school whose coaches leave for other places? If you succeed at Georgia, then you retire at Georgia. If you fail at Georgia, then you cannot succeed anywhere. Sounds good to me.

allenlaw

January 5th, 2011
8:44 am

So, did Tressell give a game ball to the NCAA? Or to the Tattoo Parlor? Enquiring minds want to know!

ratherBgambling

January 5th, 2011
8:44 am

ConVick

January 5th, 2011
8:46 am

“Ohio State is royalty of college football and can play with any team in the country every year.”

Dude you win hands down for the BS quote of the day. You have won 1 came game aganst an sec team in the past 10 years, and now your royalty. Dont get me wrong your team played great, but lets don’t be silly about it.

dt4c

January 5th, 2011
8:49 am

The REAL funny question is that when Miles leaves does LSU go after Derek Dooley?

Nat

January 5th, 2011
8:52 am

MB: Erk Russell. Did pretty well for Georgia Southern, reviving a dormant I-AA program and winning multiple national titles after serving as Vince Dooley’s defensive coordinator and helping win the 1980 I-A title. / OSU in the ATL: you, like every other Suckeye I’ve ever met down here, are just an arrogant ignoramus. Enjoy your moment and be thankful you don’t have to play real football all season long.

Saban Looks Like Willie B

January 5th, 2011
8:53 am

Try again StoneColdDawg read the NCAA by-laws. You are Stone Cold Wrong on this. There is a huge loop-hole that needs to be closed. The key is “knowing involvement” by the student-athlete.

10.1 Unethical Conduct

Unethical conduct by a prospective or enrolled student-athlete or a current or former institutional staff member
(e.g., coach, professor, tutor, teaching assistant, student manager, student trainer) may include, but is not limited
to, the following:

(c) Knowing involvement in offering or providing a prospective or an enrolled student-athlete an improper inducement
or extra benefit or improper financial aid;

Violations of 10.1 are enforced as follows:

10.4 Disciplinary Action

Prospective or enrolled student-athletes found in violation of the provisions of this regulation shall be ineligible
for further intercollegiate competition, subject to appeal to the Committee on Student-Athlete Reinstatement for
restoration of eligibility.

Oliver Cromwell

January 5th, 2011
8:54 am

And, here’s some more, even better intrigue: could Will Muschamp be lured to LSU if Mils leaves? Big money says, yes. Muschamp coached there and loved it at LSU, a school with a real SEC pedigree, no in-state competition, and a rabid fan base. This could get real interesting.

Saban Looks Like Willie B

January 5th, 2011
8:55 am

Auburn’s defense to a prospective athlete receiving an improper benefit will be composed of three parts: a. that Cam Newton didn’t know his father solicited funds — the most crucial part b. Newton didn’t attend the school his father solicited funds from and c. no funds ever changed hands for Newton to attend school at Auburn.

Nat

January 5th, 2011
8:55 am

OSU in the ATL: yeah, your kids are certainly the cream of the crop. Just look at ‘em…

NoGaGator

January 5th, 2011
8:56 am

OSU in the ATL -

All that was from you was pointless blather. OSU’s strength of schedule this past year was lower than Boise State – and what conference are they in? The Big Ten is weak, even your own commissioner acknowledged so this week.

BTW, UF is more highly-ranked academically than OSU.

1-9, really. Grow up some before you can talk boy.

CANTONDAWG

January 5th, 2011
8:58 am

Herschel Talker,

You like to beat a dead horse don’t you. There are alot of reasons why CMR is going to be the coach next year. Deal with it!! Crying about it everyday and acting like a whiny little bi$5h is only annoying everybody.

Saban Looks Like Willie B

January 5th, 2011
8:58 am

For those claiming SEC by-laws were violated…..

“SEC Bylaw 14.01.3.2 does not apply in this situation,” SEC spokesman Charles Bloom said . “It only applies when there is an actual payment of an improper benefit, or an agreement (such as a handshake agreement) to pay and receive an improper benefit. The facts in this case, as we understand them, are that the
student-athlete’s father, without the knowledge of the student-athlete, solicited improper payments (which were rejected) from an institution the young man did not attend, and that the institution where the young man is enrolled was not involved.”

What's a d a w g?

January 5th, 2011
8:58 am

UGA LB Dowtin faced assault charge

greg

January 5th, 2011
8:59 am

Richt: “We’re not looking to blow anything up… How many teams have what would be considered a down season and next year are right there?”
Uh you’ve had two bad seasons in a row mark. get a clue.

Petty

January 5th, 2011
9:01 am

Harbaugh isn’t going anywhere you dolt.

CANTONDAWG

January 5th, 2011
9:02 am

Herschel Talker,

Do you plan on paying the roughly $10 million dollars that it would take to buyout CMR contract and all of the assistants. If so, then feel free to exert your influence on AD Mcgarrity. Perhaps you should you know all the details before you start running your mouth.

Armor

January 5th, 2011
9:03 am

Ga should be glad the schedule rotation is what it is and they haven’t had to play Bama and Lsu recently. Of course they went 0-3 against the sec west this season. lol

God is in Awe of his mightiest creation, the SEC

January 5th, 2011
9:04 am

No OSU in the ATL, you are the fool.

Everybody knows that if Arkansas had showed up, they would have won by 50. OSU doesn’t have that SEC speed.

After all, the SEC is 8-0 in the bowls thus far. Well, actually 3-5, but everybody knows that if the teams in those 5 losses had showed up, they would have won by 50. Those other teams don’t have that SEC speed.

Even the NFL knows this. Look at their rosters. Nothing but SEC players are ever taken in the draft.

This is because, for the most part, nobody in any other conference in America can play football, and certainly not with that SEC speed.

Hick from the Sticks

January 5th, 2011
9:04 am

Meatchicken really wants Harbaugh. Harbaugh could go to the 49ers, and possibly swing a unbeliveable package deal to get Luck. Fox is gone at Carolina. Jimmy has been looking out of his earhole the entire year. (Reminiscent of watching the weis debacle of the dark season–good luck with _that_ egomaniac next year, Gators.) Maybe a Carolina package deal with Harbaugh and Luck?

As a Notre Dame fan, I’d love to see RichRod there another year. Maybe he can get shoelace a nice tutor or something.

another ARREST

January 5th, 2011
9:06 am

12. And you think cmr has things under control? you think this program 6-7 is going in the right direction. you think this laid back nelly is going to fix it. riiiight

StoneColdDawg

January 5th, 2011
9:07 am

@ Saban, the rest of the Barners, or OSU fans- so, it’s the “I didn’t know” defense again?? How convienient for Cam and Ohio State. Using that defense shows that either you are a complete idiot or that you have no regard for the rules in the first place. So, which category do you fall?

Gatorzip 74

January 5th, 2011
9:16 am

OSU in ATL
Sore Loser! How does it feel to be the only school ever to get your A$$ kicked by the same school in the same year for championships in both football and basketball?

Turd Furgeson

January 5th, 2011
9:17 am

Let me do the math.

AJ sells a jersey = 4 game suspension
Cam gets shopped = Turn your head NCAA
Swag for Tats at OSU = Turn your head NCAA

Herschel Talker

January 5th, 2011
9:19 am

CANTONDAWG:

Do you have any clue what kind of surplus the UGA athletic department runs? Furthermore, do you have any idea what a demoralizing impact CMR and his band of fools is having on the fan base? Get a clue!

FIRE MARK RICHT!!!

HT

dawgster

January 5th, 2011
9:20 am

Yessir…the NCAA did Ohio State a favor with their wonderful let me pick when and who we will enforce the rules on…Ohio State should thank the NCAA..and no i’m no Ark fan at all…Also, is the NCAA looking into the abuse of using local dealership cars for Pryor to use…of course Ohio State everything is above board, don’t pay any attention to all the autographed Ohio State stuff hanging in the showrooms…I don’t make this stuff up its been in several news sources…Evidently the vehicles have been at his disposal, free of charge while Pryor’s vehicle is being repaired on several occassions…I didn’t realize that you could get use of SUV’s and other nice vehicles when you were having your car repaired….Well i don’t know all the details, everything may be above board, just like in the Cam Newton case…but i’m sure the NCAA will do whats best for their image…

dawgfan

January 5th, 2011
9:20 am

AuTigerAtl, right back at ya kiddo. You barners have made me sick this year too. Once a respected fan base, you have sold your souls to the devil and lost your moral compass. And don’t give me any effing crap about how I’m jealous. I have ALWAYS cheered for the SEC in BCS Title games, but this year I’m going to make a special exception. I hope Oregon smacks the goofy smile right off Cam Newton’s face. The guy is a total showboat. And as for Fairley, I’m not even worried about him. His overrated fat azz will be sucking wind by the start of the 2nd quarter against that Oregon offense. He will be a non-factor, kind of like he was against UGA except for the late hits. The SEC is down this year and Auburn’s one trick pony show benefitted from it. Did you happen to see Stanford play the other night? They looked like worldbeaters. Well, Oregon beat them like a drum. Good luck on Monday. You’re going to need it.

Go Ducks.

Huh?

January 5th, 2011
9:20 am

Michigan’s problems began long before Rich Rod stepped foot on campus. Les Miles would be an idiot (Wait… he is, isn’t he?) to return to that wasteland. If they’re lucky, RR will accept a raise to stay on-board.

Congrats to the Buckeyes. You finally beat an SEC team. This was Arky’s first BCS bowl — and it showed. I knew when Mallet’s first two passes were dropped like a hot rock that it was going to be a long night for the Razorbacks. They made a decent effort to get back into the game, but it was too little too late.

That said, both the Buckeyes and the Waw Weagles should really just STFU and graciously accept the gifts that the NCAA has given them. Winning with asterisks is still winning. Some teams just have to take it any way that they can get it. Cheating to win is one thing, but bragging about it only proves that you have no class.

Steve

January 5th, 2011
9:21 am

LSU is competitive every year. Would Les go to a school that isn’t and won’t be for some time? Don’t think so regardless of the money. Michigan dug a hole with Rich Rod and poor decisions. The change has to start there, not with a new coach, although a new coach would certainly help.

Mobile Dawg

January 5th, 2011
9:25 am

Harbaugh goes to Denver, and takes Luck with him. Anyone notice how prominent Elway was being displayed at the Orange Bowl, and he definitly has the Denver connection.

Miles is now “damaged goods”, the Michiganites are true “Blue Bloods” who think they are better than anyone else. I can only imagine their disdain as they watch their QB run around with “dreadlocks”. Rich Rod is gone, don’t have a clue as to who will replace him.

TommyJack

January 5th, 2011
9:29 am

THE Ohio State University. Please.

Mike

January 5th, 2011
9:30 am

Brady Hoke is the coach at Michigan.

“A Michigan man will coach Michigan”
-Bo

dawgfan#2

January 5th, 2011
9:31 am

Now everybody, all together now. “WAR EAGLE!”
Not NO,But H@!! NO!!!!!! I will pull for LSU and the Wildcats in their bowl games.Just looking at AU after this year makes me sick.Jealous? Good GOD,You have to be kidding.

THEGAME

January 5th, 2011
9:35 am

For all the idiots on here that don;t think that some type of shopping doesn;t go on almost every day at almost every university is a fool. Even at the sacred cow in this area UGA. Kids and even their parents ask for improper benefits every day. These benefits do not have to be cash but can be meals, travel, clothes and even tutoring that is not offered to every other student. The rule does not specify that it has to be $180,000 or a shirt. No one has ever been suspeneded for asking. You are suspended for receiving.

Pryor should have been suspended, just like Green.

Remember losers always complain that winners cheat.

Steve

January 5th, 2011
9:36 am

Does anyone really think that Les Miles is worth $5Mil a year?

The guy seems to keep his job every year despite the fact that he is a terrible coach. Take him out of LSU’s deep recruiting pool, and he won’t have the talent to bail him out.

Really? THIS is the guy that Michigan (or any top-tier school) actually wants?

RambleOn84

January 5th, 2011
9:36 am

Do my eyes fail me, or does the ALMIGHTY SEC have a losing record in the bowls?

Rut-roh…

Huh?

January 5th, 2011
9:37 am

@THEGAME

Remember cheaters always complain that “everybody does it”.

Now… STFU!!!

Mobile Dawg

January 5th, 2011
9:37 am

“War Eagle”, show your SEC support…..If I could support UF against OSU a few years back I can support AU….

Rational Citizen

January 5th, 2011
9:37 am

Ohio State and entire Big Ten still sucks.

Miles

January 5th, 2011
9:38 am

Mr. Barnhart, your words regarding Pryor and the crap that transpired via the NCAA pseudo-enforcment are the gospel TRUTH.

Thank you.

TxGator

January 5th, 2011
9:38 am

A call from the old alma mater didn’t persuade Kirby Smart or Will Muschamp. Maybe it’s the quality of the alma mater that’s calling. After all, Georgia’s only been relevant for about 5 years total of the last 30.

Huh?

January 5th, 2011
9:38 am

@RambleOn84

Really???

A Tech fan wants to talk about Bowl results?

Really??? I thought you guys were smarter than that?

82Dawg

January 5th, 2011
9:40 am

HT who is your replacement for Richt? Waiting on the answer….

Hal

January 5th, 2011
9:41 am

Only Les can tell you if the grass is greener at Michigan ..or should I say sweeter.

RambleOn84

January 5th, 2011
9:42 am

ACC is 4-4 in the bowls, with a 2-0 record against the ALMIGHTY SEC.

Rut-roh…

RambleOn84

January 5th, 2011
9:43 am

Wait, but doesn’t a 6-6 record in the ACC equal like a 3-9 record in the ALMIGHTY SEC???

82Dawg

January 5th, 2011
9:45 am

@RambleOn84 ….when was the last time Tech won a bowl game???

KZGuy

January 5th, 2011
9:46 am

It appears that Michigan thought they had a new coach lined up. Now the AD wants a second meeting with RichRod to discuss the season. Come on don’t leave the poor guy hanging any longer. You know he gone and it looks like you have your sights set on choice number three or four or five. Maybe there is a good second tier coach that would jump at this job.

JB

January 5th, 2011
9:46 am

Michigan should call Richt…..He’s a good man.

Dirty Dawg

January 5th, 2011
9:46 am

All the Arkansas kid(s) had to do is bend over, pick up the damn ball and walk it into the end-zone…game over…but like so many other times during this game their head-hand coordination sucked. The first OSU touchdown was a botched fumble recovery…any number of dropped passes that could have meant the difference….it goes on and on.

Got to say, the only reason I care is that I had Ark in a bowl pool and now I’m lagging behind, cause it certainly wasn’t because I was pulling for the Ark coach.

Dr. Adams

January 5th, 2011
9:48 am

Tony, unless I have missed it, Dr. Adams, the President of UGA, has not uttered a word on the cloud surrounding UGA football this ugly season past. I know that he wants AD McGarity to test his wings but he is THE BOSS up there. Not one comment from him?

Is there a chance that he and McGarity are simply waiting to see how February recruiting turns out? If we do not sign the JUCO kids needed so desperately at nose tackle and running back and one very fine QB and a couple of receivers, would they go ahead and fire CMR? We could start fresh at the Spring practice.

UGA is in a downard spiral and it will not change unless they change out the head ball coach at UGA. It is the way that it is. HC is no longer a 25 year jobs program like in the past with so many old boy SEC coaches.

UGA class of 71 & 73

KR

January 5th, 2011
9:48 am

Congratulations to Ohio State for the win.

Question for the Arkansas fans – is Mallett throwing the ball too hard or have the Razorbacks just not put enough emphasis on basics like catching the ball? I counted at least 4 dropped passes (including the first play of the game) that could easily have won the game for Arkansas or at least made a monumental shift in the momentum.

RambleOn84

January 5th, 2011
9:50 am

Six years ago, but that’s not the issue…the SEC DOMINANCE is the issue here.

SEC has great teams at the top, like Alabama, LSU, and Auburn.

But everyone else is average or worse.

The myth that every game in the SEC is brutal is unraveling, and the entire country (non-SEC fans) is enjoying every minute of it after years of hearing stupid “S-E-C” chants.

The piggybacking off of the rest of your conference is finally over, and fans of crappy SEC teams are just heartbroken.

Besides, if you live in Georgia and actually pulled for that scum Petrino last night you are even more pathetic.

Huh?

January 5th, 2011
9:50 am

@RambleOn84

Do you want to talk about the specific “bowl games” that the ACC won?

How many BCS bowls did you guys win this year?

Which “bowl” did Tech win?

KZGuy

January 5th, 2011
9:50 am

I heard The MVP award was shared with the Sugar Bowl executive that begged the NCAA to keep the five crooks eligible.

Dolly Madison

January 5th, 2011
9:51 am

ACC fans ………………………..James and I know better, now don’t we?

VaTech was the best that y’all had and they got stomped by some hippies from San Francisco.

James and I were pretty rough on those hillbilly’s from Blacksburg. We know all about the ACC ………………. now don’t we??

Deputy

January 5th, 2011
9:51 am

@OSU in the ATL:
Stop gloating over one win, you’re sounding like a dawg fan

JB

January 5th, 2011
9:53 am

Adams and McGarity will have this discussion when and If They Have to Fire Richt.
They can open up the checkbook and decide who they want and really make it tough to turn us down ( say 6 years at 5.2 mil) or they can give someone the career break of their life like Dooley AND Son got, and Richt, and Muschamp for say 2.2 mil.? We’ll have a new coach.
And if they could bring back the Bear, won’t matter, there will be bitch’n and moaning on this blog…LOL

RambleOn84

January 5th, 2011
9:53 am

How many BCS bowls has the ACC won?

The same number as the SEC.

ACC 2-0 vs SEC in bowls and it burns you up.

Huh?

January 5th, 2011
9:54 am

@KZGuy

I heard that they traded him a share of the award for some new tatz. :-)

RambleOn84

January 5th, 2011
9:55 am

Virginia Tech, as the great Denny Green said, were who we thought they were. They can’t win a big game.

They got stomped by a really good Stanford team whose QB is the sure thing #1 pick and whose coach can write his ticket to any coaching job in the country, college or NFL.

For the record, Tech and Georgia both proved themselves to be who we thought they were as well.

Paul N Destin

January 5th, 2011
9:55 am

You Auburn folks continue to run that mouth because in the coming months these blogs will find no voices from the Tiger camp. You boys finally played one card too many and were caught by accident! Karma got you boys and it will not be pretty. I heard the NYT is bringing in a article this weekend .

Huh?

January 5th, 2011
9:57 am

@RambleOn84

You are a sad, pathetic excuse for a football fan. Then again, that makes you the perfect Trade School fan, eh?

Good grief

January 5th, 2011
9:58 am

RambleOn84,

The only game an ACC fan should brag about is FSU’s win against the “always-season-ending-implosion” GameC0cks. The UNC win against the the lowest rated bowl eligible SEC team was a joke. They needed a freak extra point block and a bullsh*t penalty to steal that one.

OSU was supposed to be one of the best teams in the country this season, even at seasons end. They had to shamefully play their “suspended” best players (who would have been suspended immediately if they were SEC players) and needed two freak TD’s just to pull out the win against a very overrated Arkansas team with a horrible defense. UGA even had the Hogs beat until the last minute of the game.

I understand your anger and bitterness, I’d be upset too if I pulled for a pathetic conference like the ACC. And

for the record, the MIGHTY ACC still only has just as many BCS wins as UGA does themselves. Choke on that.

RambleOn84

January 5th, 2011
9:59 am

But I hate Virginia Tech anyway. It doesn’t make me sad to see them lose, though I don’t care for Stanford.

I care about Georgia Tech and I hate that we lost to a darn service academy.

The ACC teams could win every other bowl game and it wouldn’t make me any happier about that.

This is the difference between us. If the SEC dominates in the bowl games outside of your team, you will still thump your chest and chant “S-E-C!” with the other morons.

This is why I love seeing Jim Tressel and his lame little sweatervest redeem himself against the SEC.

It is also great to see Petrino lose. I will never tire of that.

JB

January 5th, 2011
9:59 am

I’ve thought about the Florida/Urban situation some. This isn’t rocket science, but Urban was in a place and time with the right people at the right time. Tebow, supporting staff of players and a damn good coaching staff. All that went away. Enter 5 losses. The expectations at UF ARE unrealistic, And Meyer couldn’t produce. Hard to encore 2 National titles in 5 years. He was in a no win situation. He had to get out. My guess he shows up “Out West” in 2 years or so where he only has a couple of tough games a year, and feast on 10-11 wins AKA Peterson at Boise. The SEC is a pressure cooker. He served his time, and did it well.

Deputy

January 5th, 2011
10:00 am

Herschel Talker

Can’t you find another board to talk about CMR? This board is about whether Les Miles is going to Michigan. Take it somewhere else.

varney

January 5th, 2011
10:01 am

haha!!!! let Ramble vent. just keep in mind that he can’t tout how many times his OWN team has beaten UGA, he has to hang his hat on two meaningless bowl games. Whatever makes him sleep better at night.

Huh?

January 5th, 2011
10:01 am

@RambleOn84

It must really suck to expend all of your energy as a football fan hating every program that is better than yours. That gives you about 120 football programs to hate on, doesn’t it?

GTBob

January 5th, 2011
10:02 am

Aww. Tony is mad that the Ohio State players were allowed to play and beat an SEC team. It’s ok Tony, you will get over it in time. I’m sure if the same thing happened to Auburn players you would want them kept out of the MNC, right? The truth is that they should have been suspended, but so should Cam Newton. Just like the UNC players and AJ Green. I remember your thought’s on the AJ Green case, you didn’t seem to like the NCAA then. Lets face it, you are the same as the NCAA. You pick and choose what situations you would like to see punishments in.

Les Miles

January 5th, 2011
10:02 am

[...] >> Would Michigan go after Les Miles again? / Tony Barnhart, Atlanta Journal-Constitution >> Miles could be a candidate on second go-round / Shawn Windsor [...]

BufordKing

January 5th, 2011
10:02 am

More worried about UGA than Michigan or LSU.

Folks – we have serious problems at UGA.
– Didn’t we return 10 of 11 starters on offense this year? Yet, could not score a frigging touchdown against a Conference USA team????

– What kind of message does it send to your O-Line and the rest of your team when you open the game with a 95 YARD DRIVE – have 4th and INCHES on the UCF 3 yard line – and kick a FRIGGING FIELD GOAL??

Where is the fire in the belly?
Where is the PRIDE?

SCREW this staff and the poor attititude for these coaches and players.
We had more arrests this year than points scored in our bowl game against a Conference USA team.

Rewind and look at last year – then this year – and all the arrests.
POOR LEADERSHIP.

Richt has got to go – PERIOD!

Even Rich Rod had a better record at Michigan – good thing he did not have to play Colorado!!!!

RambleOn84

January 5th, 2011
10:03 am

I will choke on nothing, but thanks for the offer. I don’t care about the ACC. I care about my team. I’m not some loser who piggybacks on the success of others.

And if you want to talk about the Tennessee/UNC game, the bad calls go both ways. Tennessee shot themselves in the foot with poor play and stupid penalties, and there should have been 3-4 more 15 yard penalties against that little punk QB.

After watching the way that kid behaved, were you really still pulling for Tennessee just to preserve the myth of SEC dominance? That’s almost as pathetic as pulling for Petrino.

ACC 2-0 vs SEC and it still burns you up.

Mark

January 5th, 2011
10:03 am

“redeem himself?” He played players that should have been sitting that game out and barely beat an Arkansas team that nearly lost to UGA. Get over yourself. That display of desperation doesn’t redeem his prisonrapings against two SEC teams in NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP games. What a boob.

This Past Year

January 5th, 2011
10:04 am

Folks, the UGA record in football this past year has re-enforced what we have known at for the last 4 or 5 years. The UGA football program is on a fast DOWNWARD spiral. The UGA rednecks beat their chests every year regarding how great their recruiting class will be / has been and you then you see the end results the following season.

Astropig

January 5th, 2011
10:05 am

Tony-

The OSU stuff is just more situational ethics to further the money grab that CFB has become.
Les Miles would be crazy not to leave. No way to go but down from here.

On a related note, could you comment on the firing of Ron Franklin ? I have to confess that SEC Saturday Nights have not been the same since ESPN buried him a few years back for something he said on the air. He was always prepared and conveyed an air of excitement that seemed to come through the screen into your living room. He had the rare gift of making even a mismatch interesting. My two cents: If he said what has been reported,isn’t that kind of part and parcel of production meetings ? I mean,these guys are paid to bring in the viewers and what happens off camera should be handled internally. I grant you that if he did use that language and tone,it’s unprofessional,but a firing offense ? Do you think that he was already in hot water and this was just the rope needed to hang himself ?

Your insights would be appreciated…

Huh?

January 5th, 2011
10:06 am

The only thing that makes sense regarding Mark Richt is that Georgia has been trying desperately, behind the scenes, to hire a replacement for the past three years and simply can’t find anyone who is interested in taking the job.

Occam’s Razor, my friend… Occam’s Razor.

Good grief

January 5th, 2011
10:06 am

You are choking on it. It’s obvious. You say you don’t care then you repeat your pathetic 2-0 record remark. The only one burning up is you.

It makes your stomach hurt knowing your MIGHTY ACC has the same amount of BCS wins as UGA.

Why don’t you tell us how many the SEC has? I assure you it’s a tad bit more, LOL!!!

RambleOn84

January 5th, 2011
10:06 am

“barely beat an Arkansas team that nearly lost to UGA”

How impressive! HAHAHAHAHA

RambleOn84

January 5th, 2011
10:06 am

I bring up the ACC record against SEC because YOU care and you know it.

It still burns you up.

Herschel Talker

January 5th, 2011
10:07 am

82Dawg:

Are you serious? You really don’t think there are guys out there who can take the talent we have and do better than 6-7? Seriously. Are you asking me to name coaches I think that are better than Mark Richt? If so, this list is going to get long. Any of the following guys should be hired:

Gary Patterson
Kirby Smart
Chris Peterson
Jim Harbaugh
Brady Hoke

HT

JB

January 5th, 2011
10:08 am

The Downward Spiral is at TECH. From ACC champs, BCS bowl to pitiful. That is a pretty quick fall. The horizon looks even worse. Ouch !

bathlazar

January 5th, 2011
10:09 am

You know Ramble is burning up knowing the one guy his sorry excuse of a football team ever had that could beat UGA consistently is now coaching in Orlando!!!

Huh?

January 5th, 2011
10:09 am

@Herschel Talker

Why did you leave Rich Rod off of the list?

He might be available soon.

JB

January 5th, 2011
10:09 am

Who’s gonna replace Richt? How bout the staff at Brookwood high or Buford high? That would be a start.

Fan of the Game

January 5th, 2011
10:10 am

The NCAA needs to be refromed. The Sugar Bowl was just an example of how corrupt the NCAA is. How do you let kids play that are going to be suspended for 5 games next year? If the Kids didn’t know the rules then the coaches didn’t do their job and should have been suspended for the game. Balance the level of competitiveness, what a joke! Will all teams from now on be given a mulligan?

RambleOn84

January 5th, 2011
10:10 am

Gary Patterson wouldn’t leave TCU for UGA. Maybe last year, but now he is in an automatic qualifying conference, one that is much much easier to win that the SEC. And he still has Texas recruiting on his side at TCU which will only get better now that his team gets an automatic bid for winning the Big East.

bathlazar

January 5th, 2011
10:10 am

you know your conference sucks when the Mountain West has more BCS wins than you

Paul in RDU

January 5th, 2011
10:10 am

There are some posters on here who have claimed that the SEC is currently 3-4 in Bowl games with 3 games to be played. A simple review will show that the SEC is actually 3-1.
ARK may have lost to OSU, but ARK is still a member of the SWC
SC may have lost to FSU, but SC is still really an independent
UT may have lost to UNC, but UT is suffering from the effects of Lane Kiffin and will only count as an SEC team after they have removed every last trace of LK from the program.
Only loss by an SEC team was UGA vs UCF.

RambleOn84

January 5th, 2011
10:11 am

I obviously did love O’Leary, but I’m quite happy with Johnson. One bad year doesn’t erase what he has done, and I am confident we are headed back up. It’s not like our win total went down in three consecutive seasons or anything.

If that happened, then I would be really worried.

Saban Looks Like Willie B

January 5th, 2011
10:12 am

Stone Cold Dawg I fall in the” You can’t suspend a student-athlete unless you have evidence that he broke the rules” category. Obviously you are in the ” My team went 6-7 and got embarrassed in Memphis” camp. Or better yet the” I’m so jealous of Auburn and Cam Newton’s success that I keep beating a dead horse” category. Either produce some real evidence or shut your barking, marble-mouthed yap!!

carter

January 5th, 2011
10:13 am

True. With TCU moving to the Big Easy it looks like we’ll have another case of the 90’s again when FSU decided to join the cakewalk that is known as the ACC. The media desperately wanted the ACC to be a force for whatever reason all throughout the 90’s. Every preseason poll had at least 5 of those frauds stinking up the rankings.

SEC Elite

January 5th, 2011
10:14 am

@ OSU in the ATL

The “mighty” osu is ranked #65 in the country for Academics. BEHIND Florida and Vanderbilt, merely tied with UGA for the 65 spot. You may wanna do some research before making the “smart guy” claim!

http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-colleges/national-universities-rankings/page+3

Huh?

January 5th, 2011
10:14 am

The Big East will destroy TCU just like the ACC destroyed Miami and FSU. Playing against weak competition doesn’t build a quality football program. The Big Least will be dropped from AQ status sooner, rather than later. The ACC should receive the same consideration.

carter

January 5th, 2011
10:16 am

Fan of the game –

What? You mean to tell me that you have never heard of a criminal facing a judge and getting sentence to 5 years in prison, and the judge tells him “but before you serve, you be sure and take those vacations to Vegas and Miami that you mentioned and just report back here in 6 months to start your time?”

carter

January 5th, 2011
10:17 am

Huh? –

I get what you are saying, but the Big Easy isn’t as cursed as the ACC. The ACC is a diseased invested sewer where good programs and coaches go to die.

RambleOn84

January 5th, 2011
10:17 am

Miami and FSU destroyed themselves with weak coaching.

While I do agree that playing better competition makes you better, the opposite is not necessarily true. For instance, USC plays in a relatively weak conference but their national dominance in the 2000s can’t be disputed.

While it’s debatable whether the Big East is better than the MWC, it’s certainly not much worse.

JDawg

January 5th, 2011
10:18 am

$5 Million for a football coach? $62 Million for a second baseman?

I thought we were in a recession . . .

mex

January 5th, 2011
10:19 am

OSU is like Yech in the sense they have some of the dumbest athletes imaginable. Their “victory” last night is null and void to any fan that realizes they played guys that had no business even being dressed out, let alone on the field.

JB

January 5th, 2011
10:19 am

Ramble….You don’t have a clue what Gary Patterson would do or not do, and I don’t either.
You don’t know what drives a man. Maybe he would like to test HIS TALENTS in the SEC, and Georgia would be a good place to do it. Stop the Hate for 2 seconds and think outside of a TECHIE’S head. Hate us or the SEC, the SEC IS the place. It’s where the MEN are. It’s where you are measured as a coach. Hate it, believe or not, it’s true. You don’t know what a 6 year, 5 mil offer will do to a man, a human. Georgia is RIPE for the taking. My two business partners are Techies, I understand the hate, the envy, But UGA will attract a coach of success, and unlike you, we have the MONEY to do IT !

RambleOn84

January 5th, 2011
10:19 am

Ditto for FSU in the ACC in the 90s and Miami in the Big East in the 80s and 90s.

Relatively weak conferences, but those teams were dominant at a national level.

mex

January 5th, 2011
10:21 am

Look, even just a good team that plays a crapfest of a schedule can still show up and beat what is perceived to be a superior team one day out of the year. Look at Boise/OK from a few years back. Look at TCU/Wisconsin this year.

RambleOn84

January 5th, 2011
10:21 am

JB,
You think too highly of your team and your conference. I am not spewing hate and certainly not envy, just being reasonable.

Unless the money is way better, why would you leave the situation he has at TCU for the one at UGA?

A better recruiting state and a much easier road to the BCS every year…seems like an easy decision to me.

What??

January 5th, 2011
10:22 am

And as for Fairley, I’m not even worried about him. His overrated fat azz will be sucking wind by the start of the 2nd quarter against that Oregon offense. He will be a non-factor, kind of like he was against UGA except for the late hits. The SEC is down this year and Auburn’s one trick pony show benefitted from it

I guess you missed the LSU game and the Iron Bowl? He was running through double teams well into the second half! 2.5 sacks vs LSU and 2 against Bama. Yeah the SEC is down they only had 5 teams in the Top 10 at one point this year. The SEC EAST WAS DOWN but not the West man you are clueless….

RambleOn84

January 5th, 2011
10:24 am

Some people have the ability to be rational and not just blind homers, JB.

I’m not saying UGA is not a good position for a head coach. It is. In my eyes it’s a top 10 or at least a top 20 job in the nation. It’s certainly a MUCH better position than head coach at Tech, and I readily admit this. But for Patterson, who is already a legend at his own school, it does not make sense.

Mr Natural

January 5th, 2011
10:26 am

Re Astropig:

I’m with you about Ron Franklin. I like what he brought to Saturday night college football on ESPN. I’m sure he will show up on another network somewhere. In the meantme, I’m sure ESPN will find some ex-jock analyst wannabe to take his place.

McDawg

January 5th, 2011
10:28 am

Rich Rod can’t even get fired w/o it being a completely weird and screwed up affair-

JDawg

January 5th, 2011
10:28 am

The great coaches have great, big egos. PJ was a legend at Navy, but he hauled his ass to Atlanta soon as he got a chance.

They want to prove themselves on a bigger stage.

Bama in Atlanta

January 5th, 2011
10:28 am

All I have to say is “Thanks Rich Rodriguez for not taking the Bama HC job before we hired Saban!”

Bart

January 5th, 2011
10:29 am

I’d go if the price were right. The LSU fans don’t seem to have a lot of “love” for Miles, so yes, given the right set of incentives, I would go.

FALCONS#1

January 5th, 2011
10:30 am

Even though OSU is overrated nearly every year and wanted to see them get pummeled by yet another SEC team, I had great pleasure in the close-up look on Petrino’s face as the time ticked off the clock!!!

285exp

January 5th, 2011
10:31 am

I’m sure all those Louisiana athletes that help balance out Les Miles’ coaching gaffs will start signing with Michigan instead.

Good grief

January 5th, 2011
10:31 am

Ramble,

Where you are missing the boat is in the commonsense department. Do you know why the SEC gets props (and it’s only been for the past 5 years mind you, loooong overdue) is because the “perception” is that they are the best. This is a game that depends solely on other people voting for you. If UGA plays a schedule against 2 -4 top 10 teams every year, and actually wins, they have a much better chance of getting those ever-so-important top two BCS positions. If Tech plays nothing but unranked teams every year and does well, who cares. You should want your conference to do well for Tech’s sake. Teams benefit tremendously from playing in a conference that is respected. I suspect you are probably fully aware of all this but just have to spin it since your conference is cow dung, but please, at least don’t project to be so naive.

Carlton

January 5th, 2011
10:32 am

The last Conference the NCAA would want to help would be the SEC in regard to the Cam Newton situation. They made Marcel Dareus sit, made AJ Green sit, suspended Cam for one day before reinstating him, allowed Free Tattoo U to play their guys last night against an SEC team so Ohio State could get that ever-elusive win (even though OSU almost lost anyway). The NCAA set up the BCS a decade ago largely to help the Big 10 and Pac 10 get to the championship every year (since they didn’t have to play for a Conference Championship at the end of the year), and now that the SEC has dominated every bit of college football, the NCAA will do anything to stop the SEC from continuing dominance.

Hey, just the facts..

RambleOn84

January 5th, 2011
10:32 am

JDawg,
I agree, but the difference is Navy was not an AQ school. TCU now is.

I obviously don’t know for a fact that Patterson wouldn’t leave TCU for UGA, but I can make a reasonable case that he wouldn’t.

I’m not sure he’s the best candidate anyway.

I’d try for Petersen instead. He does just as much as Patterson with even less talent. And Petersen would be crazy to turn down UGA.

Good grief

January 5th, 2011
10:33 am

Falcons #1,

Indeed. I despise OSU and their mythical greatness as well, but seeing Petrino have a victory ripped from his grasp was well worth it to me.

GTBob

January 5th, 2011
10:33 am

Will SEC fans quit saying the SEC is not down, only the SEC east is down? Do you guys realize how stupid you sound when you say that? I’m not sure if you guys realize it but the SEC east is part of the SEC. The SEC is one team hive mind that you all have is stupid already but to pick and choose who counts when it is convenient to you is just childish.

Good grief

January 5th, 2011
10:34 am

GTBob,

Why are you arguing reality? The SEC East was horrible this year, while the West was very, very good.

RambleOn84

January 5th, 2011
10:34 am

Good grief,
Nope, still don’t really care. I do generally pull for ACC teams because of what you are talking about, but I still won’t pull for VT, Miami, or Clemson. I hate those teams, and no beauty contest ratings system will change my mind of that.

We will get a playoff system one of these days and none of this will no longer matter.

BAMA dude

January 5th, 2011
10:35 am

Les Miles in Michigan? I guess I could see it. I have heard that Brady Hoke is a frontrunner too.

Good grief

January 5th, 2011
10:37 am

Sadly since OSU is ESPN’s darling they will make sure every voter in America gives the Suckeyes a preseason top 2 ranking for at least the next 5 years. It doesn’t matter if they go 2-10 next season, the following year they will yet again be a preseason top 2 team and all the Little 11 homers in the media will point to this “victory” as their reasoning for putting them there again and again.

Carlton

January 5th, 2011
10:38 am

OSU in ATL has lost it. Hey man, can you tell me some of these players they have from Texas off the top of your head and without using Wiki? Can you even name half the starters on your team? (I’ll give you a hint-4 of them were technically ineligible last night).

Ohio State sucks, they always have and always will. After they got schelacked by TWO different SEC teams in consecutive years, I can understand how they can be bitter. And the NFC East? Oh sh*t, we have a meat head Giants or Eagles fans on our hands now too.

Last thing OSU-Herschel was better than Archie, and in only 3 years. How’s that make you feel?

UGAX

January 5th, 2011
10:38 am

Here it is Wednesday and we STILL haven’t fired MIKE BOBO and/or MARK RICHT. What gives?. Surely we wont be stuck with them again next year, will we?.

Good grief

January 5th, 2011
10:39 am

Ramble,

Well you should care, but whatever you say. Yes, if there were a playoff system then none of the conference stuff would matter, I totally agree with that. But as a realist here in the present, I most certainly want every SEC team to win every out of conference game for the sake of my Dawgs.

GTBob

January 5th, 2011
10:40 am

@Good grief,

I’m not arguing reality. The reality is that the SEC east was horrible and the SEC West was pretty good. Add horrible and pretty good and you get an average overall conference. You don’t get to just ignore half of the conference because you feel like it. If SEC fans are going to keep riding the coattails of the conference then they have to ride the whole conference. Not just Auburn and Alabama.

Good grief

January 5th, 2011
10:41 am

I have a couple of buddies that are diehard Little 11 fans that hate the SEC as much as Ramble does, but even they aren’t bragging about OSU winning last night since they know it was BS that those players played.

JDawg

January 5th, 2011
10:43 am

UGAX,

Sadly we are stuck with Bobo. I had hoped McGarity would have made the decision for Richt. If they would just demote Bobo and go raid the NFL for a true OC, most UGA fans would get excited for next season.

The defense did and will continue to improve, I think. I happen to like our hard-ass DC.

Our special teams were head and shoulders better than ‘09.

Bobo is just not capable of game planning and in-game adjustments vs today’s SEC defenses.

RambleOn84

January 5th, 2011
10:43 am

Don’t hate the SEC, just hate the piggybacking GTBob is referring to.

Crappy teams still thump their chests cuz of conference success.

A turd in a golden toilet is still just a turd.

SEC Elite

January 5th, 2011
10:43 am

@ rambleon84 and gtbob:

When was the last time an ACC team was in the National Championship game?

Nuff Said…Shut your trap!!!

UGA Insider

January 5th, 2011
10:45 am

UGAX,

CMR already said in his presser this morning that Mike Bobo would continue to lead the UGA offense and the only change that would be made this year would be that he will start watching more game film. I hope you feel better now.

RambleOn84

January 5th, 2011
10:45 am

And there is a prime example of one of these losers. A screenname like “SEC Elite” is just pathetic…is every SEC team your favorite team?

Good grief

January 5th, 2011
10:46 am

Pretty good? Yeah, ask the 3 Little 11 teams that bounded on Saturday if they think they were only “pretty good.” Miss. St., Ark and of course Auburn are all 3 far better than they were last year. Obviously Bama slipped some, but still there is another SEC West team playing for the title. The power has shifted to the West the past couple of years. But to say the West is just “pretty good” isn’t being honest.

RambleOn84

January 5th, 2011
10:48 am

SEC West this year is the best division in football without a doubt…the East was mediocre.

Good grief

January 5th, 2011
10:49 am

Ramble,

Obviously I can’t speak for every SEC fan, but I have explained to you my reasoning for wishing the SEC well out of conference, and it’s solely for tactical purposes only for my own team. But you are kidding yourself if you think a diehard Bama fan is going to wear Auburn gear just because they want to keep the national title in the state. Or a UF fan is going to be wearing purple and gold just because they want LSU to win the Cotton.

Good grief

January 5th, 2011
10:49 am

Ramble,

The East was horrible. I’ll say it for you.

RambleOn84

January 5th, 2011
10:53 am

Good grief,
You are not the type of person I am railing on here. Like I said, I obviously understand the logic. Personally I wanted the ACC teams to perform well because the crappy performance of ACC teams in bowls has led to an AWFUL selection of bowl tie-ins. Not a single ACC team on Jan 1. And since I hope and expect Tech to rebound next year, I want some better bowl selections.

But at the end of the day, I won’t pull for Miami, VT, or Clemson. And I certainly wouldn’t chant “A-C-C” if one of them won a game. Luckily none of them won their bowls and that does make me a little happy, but the fact that we lost to Air Force still sticks in my craw.

GTBob

January 5th, 2011
10:54 am

The SEC West is very good. Is that better? No wait, they are the best thing since sliced bread. Is that ok? Its all semantics and doesn’t change my point. You have two divisions in your conference. Unless you guys want to start chanting “SEC West” and claiming how amazing your division is then you have to take the good with the bad. Maybe one day you will actually just chant your teams name like the rest of the fans in college football.

BigTimeTECHFan

January 5th, 2011
10:54 am

My rankings after most of the bowls
1. Auburn
2. TCU
3. Oregon
4. Stanford
5. Ohio St
6. Oklahoma
7. Oklahoma St
8. Alabama
9. Boise St

Good grief

January 5th, 2011
10:56 am

Now now Bob, it’s not my fault you play in a high school conference. I’ve heard the ACC chant more times than I can count. So don’t throw stones from your glass house, bub.

SEC Elite

January 5th, 2011
10:57 am

BCS Rankings: Top 25

SEC – 6 teams
ACC – 2 teams

Need I say more?

We can go back for the last 10 years if you want? Any ACC takers, or are you just full of Sh*t?

RambleOn84

January 5th, 2011
11:00 am

So not only are you a fan of an entire conference, but you also make internet threats and challenges?

Sounds like a winner to me.

cry me a river

January 5th, 2011
11:03 am

Why oh why does no one want any of UGA’s coaches???

Good grief

January 5th, 2011
11:03 am

Ramble,

I just have to say it again, schematically you really should want your conference to do well out of conference. Until we get a playoff (which I doubt will ever happen) for the sake of your team you need for the ACC to at least be perceived as competitive to the voters.

GTBob

January 5th, 2011
11:04 am

Good grief, I don’t care about my conference. That is the point RambleOn was making earlier. I have never met a non SEC fan who has true conference pride. Where you guys hatched that idea ill never know. When have you heard ACC chants? The only times I have ever heard them was after beating SEC teams, so they chanted ACC to make fun of them. Do you realize that the SEC chant is a running joke to all non SEC teams and fans?

Good grief

January 5th, 2011
11:05 am

cry me a river,

How do you know that no one wants them exactly? I’m not hearing any rumors for any assistant coaches from anywhere. Are you??

BigTimeTECHFan

January 5th, 2011
11:05 am

BCS Rankings: Top 25

SEC – 6 teams
ACC – 2 teams

Need I say more?

We can go back for the last 10 years if you want? Any ACC takers, or are you just full of Sh*t?

Last year ACC had more ranked teams then SEC, so are you saying the ACC was better in 2009?

RambleOn84

January 5th, 2011
11:07 am

No, not really. Rankings don’t matter unless you’re #1 or #2 and the only way for Tech to get there is by going undefeated. And to me an undefeated season is just as good as a National Championship Trophy, since the whole process is so subjective these days.

WolverineFan

January 5th, 2011
11:09 am

I pity the cheaters of OSU. If you think OSU Deserves the win over Arkansas your have as about as much sportsmanship as Mike Tyson. The Buckeyes did not deserve a bowl. We all know the players should have been suspended immediately like everyone else in the NCAA. Nice Job Buckeyes on a dishonorable win.

RambleOn84

January 5th, 2011
11:11 am

By the way, Tony, if you are reading this, I want to commend you and Wes on your show on 790 AM.

I had the pleasure of listening yesterday since I came to work late, but I usually don’t get a chance to listen.

I even called in yesterday. I am Barry from Atlanta, and we discussed much what I am getting at here, that the SEC is great only because of the top teams. The rest of the teams are comparable to teams from other conferences.

SEC Elite

January 5th, 2011
11:11 am

How many times in the past 5 years has an ACC team finished in the top 10?

Answer: only 2 (VT in 2007 finished at #9, and VT at #10 in 2009)

How many times in the past 5 years has an SEC team finished in the top 10?

Answer: 11 times between 6 different schools!!!

Paul in RDU

January 5th, 2011
11:13 am

JDawg January 5th, 2011 10:28 am

I agree with you about great coaches – they do have big egos and want to be where the challenges are. Other examples you could have given include
College coaches who have gone to the NFL (Saban, Petrino, Spurrier, Carroll, etc)
Urban Meyer (Utah —> UF)

The SEC is the top level in CFB. If UGA terminates CMR after 2011 they will get an excellent replacement.

Good grief

January 5th, 2011
11:13 am

Bob,

I’ve explained my reasoning for wishing my conference well in OOC games. I just don’t see the logic in wishing your conference does horribly against OOC foes since it only hurts your team. You really want GT to play unranked teams every year? How do you think that will work out for you? I thought you Tech fans were supposed to be good with numbers. When a team plays 6 or 7 ranked teams every year and does well, they have a better chance to go to a great bowl than a team that only plays 2 or 3 ranked teams each year. Better bowls mean more money for your school, not to mention great positioning for next season.

I think you are just trying to spin the fact you play in a crappy conference and you are jealous.

RambleOn84

January 5th, 2011
11:13 am

For the record, I am in complete agreement that it is a sham that the “OSU 5″ got to play in that game.

But seeing Petrino squirm made it all better.

And also, to everyone lambasting Tony for standing by the NCAA’s decision on Cam Newton, he is right.

Whether you like it or not, there seems to be no proof of Newton having done anything wrong.

There is tons of smoke, but no fire. While it does seem fishy, you can’t make a judgment based on proof you don’t have.

I still think the NCAA sucks, though.

cry me a river

January 5th, 2011
11:14 am

I stand corrected… I need a new yard/pool boy. Oh they would suck at that too!

Good grief

January 5th, 2011
11:15 am

WolverineFan,

My Suckeye buddy actually thought Tressell would sit the 6 guys for an entire quarter to begin the game. The fact they didn’t even miss a series tells you all you need to know about Tressell’s character and his desperation to beat an SEC team.

I was kinda shocked myself that they all started.

RambleOn84

January 5th, 2011
11:15 am

No doubt UGA will pull in a great coach if and when Richt leaves, but I just don’t think Patterson would leave his current job for it.

Petersen would be a better choice in my opinion, and he is much more likely to leave Boise than Patterson is to leave TCU.

Good grief

January 5th, 2011
11:17 am

The Newton thing is stale at the moment. I was one that thought it was horrible that he is still able to play, but after witnessing what the NCAA did with the OSU players where they apparently had all the evidence they needed, now I’m supportive of Newton playing. If Little 11 players can break the rules, get caught and still play, then an SEC player who broker the rules and “supposedly” hasn’t been caught yet should definitely play.

Good grief

January 5th, 2011
11:19 am

Personally there is no one out there that excites me enough to wish Richt would get fired. I was never enthusiastic about Muschamp and Smart, and I just don’t see the TCU or Boise coaches working out in the SEC. Unless Saban says he wants to up and move to Athens, I will remain all in with Richt.

RambleOn84

January 5th, 2011
11:20 am

Why would Tressel willingly hurt his own team just to appease some rival fans who don’t like him anyway?

The NCAA’s ruling is awful in this case, but don’t blame Tressel for not going above and beyond their ruling and hurting his own team in the process.

I don’t like Tressel or Ohio State either, but be reasonable.

Top Recruit

January 5th, 2011
11:21 am

I’d love to see Miles go to Michigan if he would take the entire offensive staff from UGA with him. I’d even take Rich Rod at UGA if he got put in an offense like he had at WVU. A word of free advice for Miles if he considers that. Bryant answered yes when “mama called”. But times have changed. You had better decide if the kitchen is better in “your current home” or “mama’s”. And you might want to ask Rich Rod if he should have not answered the phone and stayed at WVU. What do you think Tony.

SEC Elite

January 5th, 2011
11:21 am

Hey, CheddarBob!

The lack of pride in your conference is the exact reason you will never measure up to the powerhouse that is the SEC!!!

Jim Bob

January 5th, 2011
11:22 am

The SEC is now 3-4 in bowl games, with all 3 wins coming against the weak Big Ten. Two losses are to the ACC, and one to Conference USA. Not much to pound our chests about.

GTBob

January 5th, 2011
11:22 am

Good grief, I don’t wish for the ACC to do poorly, I just don’t care if they do or not. When Miami lost to Ohio State earlier this year, it didn’t help or hurt GT, so I could care less. I wan’t really sad when Duke lost to Alabama either. I was actually happy that Boise St beat VT, as I will root against VT in just about every game they play. There are a few ACC teams that I like to root for but its on a team by team basis and has nothing to do with the letters ACC. Better bowls also do not mean better money when conferences like the SEC and ACC share bowl payouts. If GT was somehow in the hunt for the MNC then I would probably start rooting for every team on their schedule. Until then, I’m finding it hard to care.

Carlton

January 5th, 2011
11:25 am

Yeah, Tressle was definitely desperate to beat an SEC team. Did anyone else see the “accidental” onside kick after their first touchdown? Give me a break! Hey Tressle-just because you’re in the Superdome doesn’t mean you have to pull a Saints with that desperation move.

Sweater vests and people who wear them regularly are gay too

Good grief

January 5th, 2011
11:27 am

Ramble,

It gave OSU and the program a black eye to see them all playing last night for the entire game. He could have done some window dressing by at least sitting them out for a quarter. Maybe I’m drunk on the koolaid, but I suspect Richt would have done something like that. It was just poor form is all.

BAMA dude

January 5th, 2011
11:29 am

RambleOn84

January 5th, 2011
11:11 am
By the way, Tony, if you are reading this, I want to commend you and Wes on your show on 790 AM.

I had the pleasure of listening yesterday since I came to work late, but I usually don’t get a chance to listen.

I even called in yesterday. I am Barry from Atlanta, and we discussed much what I am getting at here, that the SEC is great only because of the top teams. The rest of the teams are comparable to teams from other conferences.

Yes, the best SEC teams are better than the best teams from any other conference. The mid-tier SEC teams are better than the mid-tier teams from other conferences, and considering that only two SEC teams missed bowls, the bottom-tier SEC teams are better than bottom-tier teams from other conferences.

Let’s look at the SEC losses thus far. Rankings are within their respective conferences:

#2(t) Arky vs. #1(t) tOSU
#9 UT vs. #5 UNC
#5 USCe vs. #2 FSU
#8 UGA vs. #1

Considering #4 Bama annihilated another B10 co-champion, #6 Missy State did the same to #7 Michigan, and #7 Florida beat PSU (three-way tie for third in B10 with same 4-4 conf record as UF), I’d say it’s pretty clear that the SEC is superior top to bottom.

BAMA dude

January 5th, 2011
11:31 am

Somehow the UCF part got deleted. I concede that UGA losing to C-USA champ UCF is a dissapointment.

RambleOn84

January 5th, 2011
11:31 am

Look, I’m not trying to be a jerk, but you don’t honestly believe Richt would sit a guy who wasn’t forced to sit, do you?

Richt seems to only be tough on the bench players.

If Tressel had sat the guys out for a quarter, people would still be calling him out for it and saying it wasn’t enough. The only way to satisfy people would have been sitting the guys for the whole game, and that would have basically ruined his chance to win the game.

Why willingly lose a game just to appease some rival fans who don’t like you anyway?

Be reasonable.

RambleOn84

January 5th, 2011
11:31 am

It didn’t give OSU a black eye; it gave the NCAA a black eye.

Good grief

January 5th, 2011
11:32 am

Bob,

Then you are a better man than I. Maybe I don’t adamantly despise our rivals as a program, just their fans. But I just think it’s better for your team if their conference as a whole is a success. What does everyone’s mother always preach? You are who you associate with?

Hmm….The SEC made two BCS bowls this year, plus the Cotton. Much higher paydays for the SEC teams than the ACC’s one BCS bowl.

BigTimeTECHFan

January 5th, 2011
11:32 am

Bad year for the ACC, and going into the season I thought ACC was on the way up, with the following teams battling for a ranking around 12 to 25, then:
Va Tech loses 1st two games
UNC has 1/2 it’s player suspended
GT get beat by Kansas, Nesbitt hurt, gives away 3 other games
Clemson loses to Auburn in OT after big lead
FSU played about as expected
Miami Don’t know what happened to them.

But Maryland and NC State were better then I expected

SEC Elite

January 5th, 2011
11:32 am

Hey, News Flash Jimmy Bubby Bob,

The SEC still has 3 more bowl games to play…how many more are the ACC in? ZERO

ACC must love those early, before the new year “high-profile” bowl games!!!

Good grief

January 5th, 2011
11:33 am

and Bob, don’t forget the half a billion dollar ESPN deal we inked a couple of years ago. Do you think ESPN agreed to that since we are just a mediocre conference with only a couple of ranked teams each year?

Come on dude….think about it….

Good grief

January 5th, 2011
11:37 am

Ramble,

Ha! You aren’t being a jerk. I myself admitted that I may just be drinking the koolaid. But at the same time, I don’t think any UGA fan would be shocked or the least bit surprised if Richt were in Tressell’s shoes and sat the players. I mean at least for a quarter or something pointless.

He didn’t break any rules, so I’m not entirely condemning him, I just thought it was poor form. Especially in a season when the exact same things happened to two SEC players who were IMMEDIATELY punished. One of which happened to be the linchpin to UGA’s season .

He just acknowledged the favoritism by the NCAA is all.

BigTimeTECHFan

January 5th, 2011
11:37 am

RambleOn84 – To Richt’s credit he did sit AJ Greene before NCAA ruled, Bama did the Same thing, so did UNC.

Tressel knew the NCAA was investigating long before the bowl game, why didn’t he sit player then like other coaches sem to do.

Silver Britches, Red Panties

January 5th, 2011
11:39 am

I just hope Michigan doesn’t try to hire Coach Richt.

Where would Our Beloved Dawgs be without him?’

SEC Elite

January 5th, 2011
11:40 am

Oh, by the way Jim Bob…

No commentator on TV started calling the Big 10 weak until they came up against the SEC!

Good grief

January 5th, 2011
11:43 am

Bama dude,

That’s always been my point. The Herbstriets of the world harp on the “closeness” in bowl wins when the SEC goes head-to-head with the Little 11, but he never points out that it’s always a fairly higher ranked Little 11 team, and always a higher seeded team within their own conference. going against a lower ranked and seeded team.

Most bowl seasons the SEC is always the lower ranked and seeded team, yet this is never acknowledged by the Little 11 loving media.

GTBob

January 5th, 2011
11:43 am

The SEC still has 3 more bowl games to play…how many more are the ACC in? ZERO
Not that I care about bowl scheduling but you might want to double check that one.

Driving Ms Dooley

January 5th, 2011
11:44 am

The SEC East has been damaged by their mere proximity to ACC teams.

West Coast teams can’t play defense — East Coast teams can’t play football.

Good grief

January 5th, 2011
11:46 am

BigTimeTechFan,

I’m sure you know the answer to your own question, but to humor you, because Tressell knew this was his best chance to get the SEC monkey off his back. I personally thought OSU would smoke Arkansas with all their starters playing. Arkansas just found new ways to give them then win.

As much as I despise and realize that OSU is a media made myth, I still found myself subconsciously buying into them thanks to the brainwashing on ESPN.

Good grief

January 5th, 2011
11:46 am

Yes, BC still has to play

GTBob

January 5th, 2011
11:47 am

Good grief, the money ESPN is willing to pay conferences is based on fanbase more then anything. The ACC will never be able to compete with the SEC or Big ten when it comes to the amount of fans who actually watch or go to games. It has nothing to do with how high VT or Miami finishes in the top 25 or whether they win their bowl games or not. The ACC actually has a pretty good ESPN contract as well and it’s mostly for basketball which is what most of our schools care more about.

SEC Elite

January 5th, 2011
11:50 am

Sorry CheddarBob,

I forgot that BC has yet to lose to Nevada. They’re still Big East in my mind…at least talent-wise anyway.

Karl Childers

January 5th, 2011
11:50 am

@ Saban … Willie B – it’s not that the NCAA didn’t find anything on Auburn and Cam Newton, it’s that they haven’t found anything YET – the investigatin isn’t closed, so enjoy the Sears trophy while you can.

@Gatorzip74 – you’re a fool to think that SEC teams could compete with Ohio State week in / week out.

@No Ga Gator – The Ohio State University is 5-4 in BCS bowl games. I don’t consider Bear Bryant’s record against Woody Hayes to be especially relevant.

@ConVick – The SEC doesn’t have Big Ten strength, just ask Bobby Petrino about OSU defensive line’s bull rush. He said he hasn’t seen that kind of power in the SEC this year. 31-26.

@Stone Cold Dawg – Please. Including this week’s brawl, how many Bulldog players have been arrested this year?

@All Other Drinkers of SEC Kool-Aid – You have a nice competitive conference this year, but that’s all it is – competitive. Oregon will wear Auburn out – those Barners will be sweating gravy by halftime. Oregon 38 – Auburn 27.

OSU 31 – SEC 26. Take a suck of that bitches.

RMFT

January 5th, 2011
11:52 am

as Bear Bryant said, “When Moma Calls……”

Karl Childers

January 5th, 2011
11:57 am

@WolverineFan – Michigan is our Bitchagain. Fondly, OSU.

Dontavius Supremo

January 5th, 2011
11:59 am

He should go, but for all the right reasons. Tony, you’re right about the “daily insanity” of the SEC. (I invite naysayers to review the comments above about Coach Richt). And the right reasons are that the LSU people don’t like him, were ready to fire him long ago, he will never be a Louisiana “home boy” and they will be ready to fire him again if he loses this week. If I were him I’d be gone in a Detroit minute.

Jim Bob

January 5th, 2011
11:59 am

The SEC is 3-4 in bowl games this year but listening to Bama dude you’d think they’re 7-0 or that apparently every loss was a good loss.

SEC elite, the ACC went 4-5 against the SEC this year and is 14-16 head-to-head against the SEC over the PAST 3 YEARS, but don’t let facts get in your way. Yea what matters is what commentators say haha.

Bottom line if yall are such a dominant conference why are you only winning 53% of your games against the lowly ACC over a 3 year stretch??? And why am I wasting my time trying to talk sense into ignorant SEC fans.

mack

January 5th, 2011
12:00 pm

It’s time for Les Miles to move on, i am a die hard LSU fan and, i would love to have Rich Rod in Louisiana!!!! with the talent of our offense and his coaching style this could be a really good thing for the LSU program. Les Miles please take the damn job, this process is way to easy lets just do a one for one SWAP!!!!

Carlton

January 5th, 2011
12:03 pm

Hey Karl-if OSU’s so upstanding, need I remind you of the originator of NCAA infraction? Your very own Maurice Clarrett! Yeah, he was an upstanding and model citizen. Just like tatted-up Pryor and Herron right?

And OSU sure couldn’t compete with SEC teams for the past 30 years (different generation, players, coaches, schemes, offensive/defensive philosophies)..so what makes you think they couldn’t compete with them week in and week out?

OSU and their fans need to get over themselves. Your team sucks and they always have (their only popular nationally because of the $$ they generate). They almost lost last night playing 5 ineligible players (who collectively accounted for 4 touchdowns together and the big interception at the end) and you still think OSU is better than a mid-tier SEC team?? Come on man-quit drinking the Kool-Aid.

Last thing for you pompous OSU fans that I’ll keep saying til you grasp it:
Herschel Walker college stats in 3 YEARS: 5,259 yards, 49 touchdowns
Archie Griffin stats in 4 YEARS: 5,589 yards/26 touchdowns

Herschel>Archie

Carlton

January 5th, 2011
12:04 pm

sorry: *could compete with them week in and week out

SEC Elite

January 5th, 2011
12:05 pm

@ Karl Childers

I want to commend you on your 1-9 bowl record against SEC schools…CONGRATULATIONS!!!

Jan. 4, 2010 – Sugar Bowl New Orleans, LA – Ohio State 31, Ark 26
Jan. 7, 2008 – BCS National Championship New Orleans – LSU 38, Ohio State 24
Jan. 8, 2007 – BCS National Championship Glendale, Ariz. – Florida 41, Ohio State 14
Jan. 1, 2002 – Outback Bowl Tampa, Fla. – South Carolina 31, Ohio State 28
Jan. 1, 2001 – Outback Bowl Tampa, Fla. – South Carolina 24, Ohio State 7
Jan. 1, 1996 – Florida Citrus Bowl Orlando, Fla. – Tennessee 20, Ohio State 14
Jan. 2, 1995 – Florida Citrus Bowl Orlando, Fla. – Alabama 24, Ohio State 17
Jan. 1, 1993 – Citrus Bowl Orlando, Fla. – Georgia 21, Ohio State 14
Jan. 1, 1990 – Hall of Fame Bowl Tampa, Fla. – Auburn 31, Ohio State 14
Jan. 2, 1978 – Sugar Bowl New Orleans, La. – Alabama 35, Ohio State 6

I would be PROUD too if I were an OSU fan!!!

SEC Elite

January 5th, 2011
12:08 pm

Jimmy Bubby Bob,

Until you can compete in your own state, I’d say we’re done talking…

Not So Fast

January 5th, 2011
12:09 pm

Hey SEC: When The Oregon Ducks beat Auburn and the cheating *Scam Newton by 21 points, since Stanfords only loss was to the National Champions; don’t you agree the final rankings should be Oregon, Stanford, 1,2.

Karl Childers

January 5th, 2011
12:13 pm

@Carlton – I never said OSU had upstanding players, but according to the NCAA they are eligible players, and they did what Ohio State recruited them to do – play football.

Is “almost lost” a euphemism for “won?” I guess that means that the SEC school “almost won” then?

Archie Griffin (2) Heisman Trophys vs. Herschel Walker (1) Heisman Trophy. Herschel had 5,259 yards against weak SEC defenses that couldn’t stop Johnny Musso either.

The Ohio State University 31 – SEC 26. Take a suck of that, bitches.

Karl Childers

January 5th, 2011
12:16 pm

@SEC Elite – You’re hanging your hat on the 1990 Holiday Bowl? Get a life bitch.

Not So Fast

January 5th, 2011
12:17 pm

Hey SEC Elite:

Did you notice 4 PAC 10 schools in the top 25 of those rankings?

http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-colleges/national-universities-rankings

Good grief

January 5th, 2011
12:24 pm

Bob,

I promise if the SEC had a parallel previous 10 years of football as the ACC they would not have signed that contract with ESPN. As you well know.

Matt

January 5th, 2011
12:24 pm

Les Miles is to LSU fand what RichRod was to Michigan fans – RichRod just failed to back into a BCS championship with Lloyd Carr’s old team. I think Les would take less money to go to UM, simply to avoid the headache of that insane fan base.

Good grief

January 5th, 2011
12:26 pm

The Pac 10 and Big 10 have excellent academics, but just like how the only real student athletes in the SEC are at Vandy, and how the only real student athletes in the ACC are at Duke, same goes with each of those conferences. Only Stanford and Northwestern have legitimate student athletes.

ARdawg

January 5th, 2011
12:27 pm

Tony is a Gomer

Les is off the Michigan radar but could return if they get desperate enough. Don’t believe everything you hear about Harbaugh. He knows the games played and he isn’t stupid. With a tempting enough contract he’d gladly coach at Michigan over the NFL

Good grief

January 5th, 2011
12:27 pm

Not So Fast,

Yes I would, but you know TCU will be #2

SEC Elite

January 5th, 2011
12:28 pm

@not so fast

I did see that. Now that the USC talent pool has been distributed, I commend the Pac 10 for coming into their own as a legitimate conference.

However, It’ll be back to normal after the exodus of Harbaugh and Luck.

Just can’t wait to see Oregon play against an SEC defense! And the fact that Auburn put up the kind of #’s they did this season against the SEC West Defenses, gives me nothing to worry about against Auburn!

SEC Elite

January 5th, 2011
12:29 pm

Correction…Against Oregon!

Good grief

January 5th, 2011
12:29 pm

But also keep in mind, Stanford whooped up on a team that lost to James Madison at home and plays in a conference with only 2 total BCS wins….

SEC Elite

January 5th, 2011
12:31 pm

And…the academic side of the Pac 10 is pretty good also…

ARdawg

January 5th, 2011
12:32 pm

SEC Elite

You should stop whacking off all over yourself. There’s been nothing inherently impressive about AU’s defense. It’s their offense that has given everyone the problems in stopping it

SEC Elite

January 5th, 2011
12:34 pm

Karl,

Why are you so angry? Is it going to take 9 more wins against us for you to feel better? I wouldn’t count on it in your lifetime…unless your language reflects your age!

Snoop Dawg

January 5th, 2011
12:37 pm

Michigan AD has received permission from the UGA to contact Mark Richt about the head coaching job at Ann Arbor… Richt is noncommittal at this stage.

LOL!

Nobody wants those idiot coaches on the UGA staff!

Karl Childers

January 5th, 2011
12:40 pm

Auburn gave up 34 vs. Kentucky, 43 vs. Arkansas, 31 vs. Ole Miss, 24 vs. UTC, and 31 against UGA. Impressive. The Fiesta Bowl might need an auxiliary scoreboard to keep track of Oregon’s points.

3rdN8

January 5th, 2011
12:41 pm

Have been surprised that of all the supposition being bantered about in the Michigan coaching search, on one in the media (to my knowledge) has brought up Gary Patterson.

I think Patterson would be a good fit at either a Big 10, or SEC school. The guy can coach. His teams play good fundemental football. Bama made a huge mistake 9 years ago by hiring his boss instead of him

GTBob

January 5th, 2011
12:41 pm

Good grief, I’m not so sure about that. ESPN pays the SEC 205 million a year vs. 155 million for the ACC. Considering how bad the ACC is at football that doesn’t seem to be that big of a difference. The Big Ten still takes in more then anyone even though they have not been nearly as good as the SEC the past 10 years. GT has been better the last 5 years then Michigan. Who do you think brings more money in TV contract negotiations?

Karl Childers

January 5th, 2011
12:44 pm

@SEC Elite – Since you say “us” I must assume that you attended each of the SEC schools – and evidently, based on your mastery of the language,didn’t graduate from any of them.

Ohio State 31 – SEC 26. Take a suck of that, bitch.

Carlton

January 5th, 2011
12:45 pm

@Karl:

Yeah, Archie won two, but then again it was in the early 1970’s and in an offense which was run heavy. If you look at his stats from those years, they’re really not that impressive (Archie never had a season over 12 touchdowns..in a run heavy offense). The only reason Herschel never won 2 was because Marcus Allen had a gaudy 1981 season of over 2,300 yards..still unheard of today.

And any university or alum/student/fan of a University that refers to themselves in the third person is so far up their own ass they can’t see the daylight. If the SEC is so weak against not just OSU but the rest of the Big 10 (11, 12, however many are in your conference now-sh*t, y’all can’t count it yourself) then why did Alabama, Florida, and MISSISSIPPI STATE tear the Big 10 apart just 5 days ago? I’d say it shows major weaknesses and flaws in the Big 10 if anything else.

2 of your 3 Conference Champions lost in one day-how sad. And the other won “barely won” against a mid-tier SEC team. Congrats to the sweater vests everywhere!

Legends and Leaders? THE Ohio State University? Please..get over yourselves (oh, and the players weren’t technically “eligible”-because they sure as hell won’t be next year for the first 5 games, haha). Enjoy your sh*tty year next year, I’m sure OSU won’t be seeing the inaugural Conference Championship game..how sad-and then you’ll start b*tching about how hard it is to get to NC game when your team can’t get past the conference championship.

Auburn’s playing for the SEC’s 5th National Championship in a row. If they win, the SEC will have won a BCS Championship against the ACC once, Big 12 three times, Big 10 twice, and the Pac 10 once. 7 Championships in 13 years? Sounds like dominance to me..

John2

January 5th, 2011
12:45 pm

The past 3 seasons Arkansas has gone from 5-7 to 8-5 to 10-3. Call them overated, SWC, mid level, etc all you wish, but this is a program that is obviously headed in the right direction. Most SEC teams, as well as teams from the conferences, would have killed to play in a BCS Bowl game or have the record they had this year. Whether they won pretty this year or not, they did what they needed to do to this year to get 10 wins and have a really good season.

Karl Childers

January 5th, 2011
12:49 pm

I like men. Lots of them. Big hairy ones are preferred.

jumbeauxtiger

January 5th, 2011
12:51 pm

I don’t see Miles uprooitng his family. His daughter is a 10th grader who is a state swimming champion at U-High in BR and they love it here.

Congrats to the Buckeyes on a big win. I was angry when LSU lost to Ark but part of me didn’t want to play Ohio St. I knew they were good. Glad it wasn’t the Tigers that was the first SEC team to lose to them in a bowl.

Not So Fast

January 5th, 2011
12:51 pm

Hey Good Grief: The Pac 10 conference leads the nation in NCAA Championships and overall academic ranking. As I posted earlier Stanford, Cal, USC and UCLA rank in the top 25 Universities; in addition Washington ranks in the top 50. The fact is 6 University of California schools rank in the top 50 as well as 3 Private Universities located in California totaling 9 in the top 50; 5 rank in the top 25.

BAMA dude

January 5th, 2011
12:56 pm

3rdN8, I’m telling you, it’s a religious thing with him. He’s said before that he ain’t going anywhere.

jumbeauxtiger

January 5th, 2011
12:57 pm

John2 ,

The numerous dropped passes killed the Hogs last night.

GeorgiaDuck

January 5th, 2011
12:58 pm

LSU is a better job than Michigan!

Karl Childers

January 5th, 2011
1:03 pm

@Carlton – In 1980, Buck Belue attempted 156 passes and in 1981 he attempted 188 passes. Is that your idea of a “pass happy offense?” According to cfbdatawarehouse.com the Big Ten has a 95-78 record all-time against the SEC.

Scoreboard.

INCOMPLETE!!!

January 5th, 2011
1:08 pm

Man, Ryan Mallett may want to stay for his Senior year after that performance last night!!!

If he can’t handle the stage of the Sugar Bowl, then he’s definitely not ready for the Big Show!

5150 P.O.A.D

January 5th, 2011
1:08 pm

Michigan needs to go after Paul Johnson! See if his silly offense works with the Big Boys!

Karl Childers

January 5th, 2011
1:14 pm

I have an apology.

I just took a long look in the mirror and have decided to commit suicide.

I cannot bear the fact that we consistently get dominated by the SEC…goodbye cruel world.

Suck it!

Karl Childers

January 5th, 2011
1:16 pm

Paul in RDU

January 5th, 2011
1:18 pm

Not So Fast

January 5th, 2011
12:51 pm
Hey Good Grief: The Pac 10 conference leads the nation in NCAA Championships and overall academic ranking. As I posted earlier Stanford, Cal, USC and UCLA rank in the top 25 Universities; in addition Washington ranks in the top 50. The fact is 6 University of California schools rank in the top 50 as well as 3 Private Universities located in California totaling 9 in the top 50; 5 rank in the top 25.
________________________________________________________________________

The average ranking of the PAC 10 schools is 62 (did you forget about the AZ and OR schools and WSU?) – the average ranking of the ACC schools is 49.
6 of the University of California schools may be highly ranked, but only 2 of them are in the PAC 10

Dawg Fud

January 5th, 2011
1:24 pm

Way to go Arkansas…you bunch of goons.

RambleOn84

January 5th, 2011
1:30 pm

Shut up POAD!

Anyway, I’m sure Michigan is done with non-traditional offenses.

Spinoza

January 5th, 2011
1:40 pm

OSU fan in Atlanta, Ohio State can play with anyone every year? Then why did it take them ten tries to beat an SEC game in a bowl? (And they lost to Alabama in the regular season once as well.) Why were they trounced twice in National Championship games by SEC teams? Why were they blown out by USC and defeated by Texas?

Wishful thinking on your part. Reminds me of a religious faith. Believe what you know ain’t so. ha, ha, ha ha.

Good grief

January 5th, 2011
1:44 pm

Bob,

I’d love to see your figures. ESPN signed it’s largest FOOTBALL contract with the SEC. And I’m sure the 155 you speak of has to entail large part to basketball, correct? Obviously the ACC will be the bread and butter conference for that thanks to Duke.

Good grief

January 5th, 2011
1:47 pm

Not So Fast,

No debate from me on that. I acknowledge they have excellent academics. As far as conferences go probably the best, even though their athletes (with exception to Stanford) do not reflect that. But at least admit to what “championships” they are winning. The only ones that matter are football, men’s basketball and baseball. UCLA’s run decades ago has a lot to do with that.

nate

January 5th, 2011
1:51 pm

Ohio State blows

Joe Bob Thibodaux

January 5th, 2011
1:51 pm

Tony, thanks for putting this on the AJC site. Anything is better than reading about the laments of UGA and GT. The world is sick and tired of the smearing of Cam, and who could endure another word about the arrest records, etc. At least this is something fresh–but not so fresh.

The beloved coach of LSU is staying in Baton Rouge. He gets paid well. He has a magnificent facility. Tiger Stadium is one of the best. The food in Louisiana is the best in the land. The recruits from Louisiana, Texas, and might I say, Georgia, love LSU. The Fan Base is fantastic. The climate is better than Michigan. The economy is better. Why in the world would Les Miles give a real thought to a fallen program in an inferior conference?

No way Miles is going anywhere.

JBT

Karl Childers

January 5th, 2011
1:52 pm

@Spinoza – The Ohio State University is 5-4 in BCS bowl games, considered the modern standard of bowl excellence. Don’t tell me what the Buckeyes’ record is against an entire conference, rather tell me what your school’s record is against the Ohio State Buckeyes.

Karl Childers

January 5th, 2011
1:54 pm

@nate – Ohio State glows.

Good grief

January 5th, 2011
1:55 pm

Spinoza,

You might as well just get used to listening to insanity like that for awhile. All the Big 10 homers in the media (aka ESPN) needed was just one OSU victory over any SEC team. Now we will all be saturated for months listening about how great The Suckeyes really are and how brilliant of a coach Tressell is. All is now forgotten about how the SEC has crushed them in national title games. They will be a lock for preseason top 3 spots for at least the next 5 seasons just for shamefully playing their SUSPENDED players and needing two fluke TD’s and a miracle at the end to defeat an underwhelming Arkansas team that should have lost to UGA.

Good grief

January 5th, 2011
1:57 pm

If Mallett doesn’t get drafted by a team with a top 5 OL his NFL career will be short lived. I’ve never seen a less mobile QB in my life. And that includes that 300 pound porker Kentucky used to have.

question

January 5th, 2011
1:57 pm

it so hilarious to see how you SEC homers are now turning your backs on Arkansas since they lost

Cindy

January 5th, 2011
1:58 pm

I’ll admit that I didn’t like Miles much when he first came to LSU HOWEVER, after his speech before the 2006 SEC championship game I LOVE HIM. I have been mad all season because of the boos and negativity and this all started when he was what?? 6-0. That really p**sed me off. If he left now for Michigan, I think I would place Michigan in 2nd behind LSU because he is a fun to watch coach who finds a way to win. Anyone remember back to the 90’s and the horrible seasons we had……has not happened with Miles period.

The Karl Childers

January 5th, 2011
1:59 pm

Anyone? Give me your team’s record against Ohio State. The silence is deafening.

Delbert D.

January 5th, 2011
2:01 pm

Other than UCLA and UC Berkeley, the rankings of the other schools in the University of California system are not relevant to the PAC-10.

By the way, California also has a California State University system, which is separate from the University System. San Jose State, “Fresno State”, San Diego State, Cal State-Fullerton and several others are in that system. The official name of “Fresno State” is “California State, Fresno.” However, San Diego State is officially “San Diego State University.” San Jose State University, also gets that name distinction.

In addition to the University of California, Los Angeles (UCLA) there is also California State University, Los Angeles.

I lived in the Bay Area and Napa in the mid-’70s. The Cal St. University system schools are less expensive and easier to get admitted to than the UC system schools.

hamlet

January 5th, 2011
2:01 pm

3 of the SEC’s bowl losses have been by 5 or fewer points. Even SC only lost by 9. Might not be getting all the wins but at least they are not embarrassing their fans.

The Karl Childers

January 5th, 2011
2:02 pm

@Good Grief – who is your team? Surely, you didn’t attend every school in the conference just as SEC Elite did? Don’t hide behind the so-called strength of a conference, step up young man.

The Karl Childers

January 5th, 2011
2:03 pm

@hamlet – I’m not embarrassed!

MichGirl

January 5th, 2011
2:05 pm

its gonna be Brady Hoke

Good grief

January 5th, 2011
2:08 pm

Karl –

UF – 1-0
UGA – 1-0
SC – 2-0
UT – 1-0
Bama – 3-0
Auburn – 1-0
LSU – 1-1-1

The only two SEC teams that have played them with a losing record are Vandy and UK. Now sit down and shut up.

Dixie Redcoat Band

January 5th, 2011
2:08 pm

I think we all pretty much agree….the Hogs played awful. The Bucs did have their own Great Dane however who can catch footballs.

Joe Bob Thibodaux

January 5th, 2011
2:09 pm

The Karl Childers

Ohio State was lucky that Joe Adams wasn’t in form. Dropped passes kept Ohio State in the game, and just plain luck. Its part of the game but I doubt Ohio State would win if they replayed. It was a great victory to defeat a fine Arkansas team, but it was luck.

As I have said after the LSU-Tennessee Game: “I would rather be lucky”.

I still have nightmares about the 1989? LSU Ohio State game when Chris Spielman was so magnificent.

Good Victory, but Ohio State don’t want nothing to do with anymore Arkansas, it was all they could handle.

JBT

ARdawg

January 5th, 2011
2:09 pm

Ohio St tried every way one could imagine to give that game away in the Sugar Bowl. Arkansas was tempted but declined it. It was a bad game in the 1st half and turned into a nail biter in the 2nd half. All in all a damn good game. Hats off to OSU for the win and getting the monkey on their back a bitch slap and kudos to the Hogs for keeping it respectable

Karl's Daddy

January 5th, 2011
2:10 pm

Ok Karl, I’ll bite:

UGA is 1-0 against your precious Buckeyes.

Suck on that!

GTBob

January 5th, 2011
2:11 pm

Good grief,

Here are some links on the numbers. The SEC and ACC contracts both include all sports. Neither one is centric on one sport although i’m sure football contributed heavily for the SEC and basketball contributed heavily for the ACC.

SEC contract:
sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/news/story?id=3553033

ACC Contract:
sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/news/story?id=5363743

bawahahahha!!!

January 5th, 2011
2:11 pm

Karl, as the kids would you say, you just got b*tch slapped!!!

dawgfacedboy

January 5th, 2011
2:12 pm

Maybe they will hire Bobo!!!! If he’s such a great coach then how come I’ve never heard his name mentioned with ANY job that comes available each year?? Assts. get hired away every year for jobs. Not bobo.

bawahahahha!!!

January 5th, 2011
2:13 pm

ARdawg –

Who are you trying to fool? We all know you are no fan of any SEC team. A “b*tch slap?” Seriously? Arkansas crapped that game away and OSU scored two freak TD’s. They barely won even with their suspended players playing.

ARdawg

January 5th, 2011
2:14 pm

dawgfaced

likely others pay Richt to keep him. That might explain it

Dudy Dawg

January 5th, 2011
2:15 pm

TB…you gotta admit the Big 10 has almost as many Drama Queens this year as the SEC!

The Karl Childers

January 5th, 2011
2:16 pm

@Goof Grief – then we must assume that you went to Kentucky so sit down and shut up until March Madness starts, when if you’re fortunate, you’ll get to play the number-two ranked Ohio State Buckeyes.

ARdawg

January 5th, 2011
2:17 pm

bahwahh

You don’t know diddly squat. OSU was breaking it off in AR in the first half and it was about to get ugly. Freak touchdowns don’t get any asterisk in the final score moron. Earth to bahwahh, the winner is determined by the score at the end of the game.

King Gator

January 5th, 2011
2:18 pm

Michigan should try to get Harbough or Hoke from SDST – either would be an upgrade. Plus I’d miss the MadHatter in the SEC … crazy, ballsey, dumbfounded … but never dull. Go Gators!

bawahahahha!!!

January 5th, 2011
2:21 pm

Maybe garbage TD’s don’t get an asterisk, but playing with 6 guys that are SUSPENDED sure as heck does!! LOL!!!! OSU had to cheat to “win,” and even then they only “won” thanks to Arkansas gift wrapping the game for them.

King Gator

January 5th, 2011
2:21 pm

The SEC “dots OSU’s eye” in BCS games!

The Karl Childers

January 5th, 2011
2:23 pm

@Karl’s Daddy – Wow that’s quite a sample, one game. I look forward to 2020 and 2021 now that the “Dawgs” have finally decided to venture outside the Southeast region. We’ll look forward to welcoming you to Columbus.

The Karl Childers

January 5th, 2011
2:26 pm

Arkansas wasn’t ready for the big BCS stage, just like all but two of the rest of the Southeastern Conference teams. Ohio State is 5-4 in BCS games, considered the standard of excellence for modern bowl games.

Good grief

January 5th, 2011
2:26 pm

Bob,

Thanks for the links. Hmm….from reading the articles it’s clear ESPN was more concerned with control over ACC basketball and clearly made the emphasis football in regards to the SEC.

Good grief

January 5th, 2011
2:28 pm

Karl, why are you still posting? You’ve been shamed into being irrelevant. As you can see, all SEC teams that have played the Suckeyes, with the exception of two basement programs, has a winning record against them, or a tie with LSU. You called it out and you got your answer.

Joe Bob Thibodaux

January 5th, 2011
2:29 pm

The Karl Childers

On a historical note, the North American Indians ground up buckeyes and used the nut to stun fish. The buckeye was a pessicide. That a fish killer, Karl.

There aren’t any fish in the SEC.

Musashi

January 5th, 2011
2:30 pm

The only way the Big X and the Buckeyes could notch a win was by cheating. College football has another black eye.

Mike

January 5th, 2011
2:30 pm

Why in the world would Les Miles want to leave sunny Louisiana, with the best food in the world, for snowy cold loser Michigan? LSU won 99 games in the 2000’s-only Fla won more in the SEC-100. That’s right- only one more game. How many did Michigan win in the 2000’s? If Miles wins this bowl friday he will have won 11 games at LSU, four out of his six seasons there. Have gone 5 and 1 in Bowl games. And thats after losing his starting QB, Perilloux-3 years ago-and playing in the SEC West. And the argument he won the BCS Title with Sabans recruit’s is ludicrous-he won in his 3rd season. You’d have to say the same for Saban, Meyers, Tressel, Stoops, etc.
And Miles has 2 clock snafu’s in 78 games and that is what those not familiar with the program remember most-thats cuz the media loves to talk it up.
If you dont think Miles is an elite coach, the proof is in the numbers:
61-17 = The Hat’s Overall Record at LSU
33-15 = The Hat’s SEC regular season record
21-9 = The Hat’s record against the SEC West
27-1 = The Hat’s record against non-conference teams
37-6 = The Hat’s Home record
30-1 = The Hat’s home record in Saturday night games
23-10 = The Hat’s road record

38-4 = The hat’s record against unranked teams
22-12 = The Hat’s record against Top 25 teams
15-11 = The Hat’s record against Top 15 teams
9-8 = The Hat’s record against Top 10 teams
6-2 = The Hat’s road record against unranked teams
10-6 = The Hat’s road record against Top 25 teams
7-5 = The Hat’s road record against Top 15 teams
4-5 = The Hat’s road record against Top 10 teams
3-1 = The Hat’s neutral site record against unranked teams
3-1 = The Hat’s neutral site record against Top 25 teams
1-1 = The Hat’s neutral site record against Top 15 teams
2-0 = The Hat’s neutral site record against Top 10 teams
9-5 = The Hat’s home record against Top 25 teams
7-5 = The Hat’s home record against Top 15 teams
3-3 = The Hat’s home record against Top 10 teams

4-1 = The Hat’s Bowl Record
17-6 = The Hat’s record in November
6-2 = The Hat’s record after November
11-1 = the Hat’s record in games after a loss
20-9 = The Hat’s record in games decided by 7 pts or less.
4-4 = The Hat’s record in OT.

21-2 = The Hat’s record when an LSU RB rushes for 100 or more yards
37-0 = The Hat’s record when LSU rushes for 100+ and does not allow 100

57-8 = The Hat’s record when scoring 20 or more points
45-5 = The Hat’s record when scoring 25 or more points
3-0 = The Hat’s record against the Pac-10
4-0 = The Hat’s record against the ACC
1-1 = The Hat’s record against the Big 10
2-0 = The Hat’s record against the Big East
3-0 = The Hat’s record in the Superdome
2-0 = The Hat’s record in BCS Bowls

2 SEC West Titles
1 SEC Championship
1 NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP
Won the SEC West outright for the first time in LSU history
Only LSU coach to ever post 3 straight 10 win seasons
Only LSU coach to ever post 3 straight 11 win seasons
Only LSU coach to ever post 3 straight Top 5 finishes
Only LSU coach to beat Alabama, Auburn, and Florida in the same season, (he has done it twice)
Only LSU coach to beat Alabama, Auburn, Tennessee, and Florida in the same season

Has come from behind victories over:
#15 Arizona State
#4 Alabama
#15 Auburn
#11 Florida
#8 Tennessee
#9 Florida
#17 Auburn
#17 Alabama
#14 Tennessee
#1 Ohio State
#10 Auburn
Troy
#18 Georgia
Arkansas
Tennessee
#14 Florida
#5 Alabama

Ranked in the Top 20 in 89 of 93 polls
Ranked in the Top 15 in 84 of 93 polls
Ranked in the Top 10 in 63 of 93 polls
Ranked in the Top 5 in 36 of 93 polls
Ranked the #1 team in 5 of 93 polls

Has beaten 6 National Championship coaches while at LSU:

1. Larry Coker
2. Phillip Fulmer, (twice)
3. Steve Spurrier, (twice)
4. Urban Meyer, (thrice)
5. Nick Saban (twice)
6. Jim Tressel

So I’m really hoping that Michigan hires Harbaugh and Les Miles stays a TIGER!

The Karl Childers

January 5th, 2011
2:30 pm

@Karl’s Daddy – You reckon the 7-6, oops, make that 6-7 “Dawgs” could have beat Ohio State this year? Alas, we’ll never know because Ohio State played in an elite bowl and Georgia didn’t.

The Karl Childers

January 5th, 2011
2:33 pm

@Joe Bob – Figured it would be you who would be a bass expert.

Joe Bob Thibodaux

January 5th, 2011
2:33 pm

Mike.

Great post.

Thank you.

JBT

Dudy Dawg

January 5th, 2011
2:34 pm

Mike……damn dude, you oughta be working in LSU’s SID office or running the SEC offices, with all the data out you posting.

Stephen

January 5th, 2011
2:36 pm

It doesn’t make any sense for Miles to downgrade in both terms of the program and conference unless he wanted the job security of not being expected to compete for a national title every year which he could get at Michigan. I don’t think loyalty to his alma mater would compel him to take a step backwards in his chosen profession.

Joe Bob Thibodaux

January 5th, 2011
2:38 pm

The Karl Childers

Actually Karl, the buckeyes were usually used in ponds where the poison would not be diluted.

Good Victory over a fine Arkansas team Karl.

JBT

Cobb Dawg

January 5th, 2011
2:40 pm

Why would a coach leave an SEC school for a Big 10 school?

Nance

January 5th, 2011
2:40 pm

Just to comment on the whole “SEC pride” subject, I think what most people are missing (or simply avoiding if they play in a crappy conference) is that college sports are far more intimate and personal than pro sports. NFL teams are made up of guys from all over the country. Heck, in most pro sports from all over the world. In college most teams are made up from guys from your home state, or at least your home region. There is a since of hometown proud in that regard. Anyway, just my two cents.

ARdawg

January 5th, 2011
2:42 pm

bahwahh

You don’t know chit. Cheated? How did they cheat? I didn’t see any cheating on either side. I’m full blooded Georgia Bulldog and SEC fan. There was no cheating. There were 11 players on both sides of the ball and the Officials appeared to me to call a very good game. Arkansas got beat. How or why is subjective but the victory is in OSU column.

Now bahwahhh, you need to stick with what you know, now get them pizza’s made if you ever hope to move up to delivery

cooper

January 5th, 2011
2:42 pm

Shouldn’t there be an asterisk besides Miles’ come-from-behind-win against UGA? “Excessive celebration” penalty against Green ring any bells?

The Karl Childers

January 5th, 2011
2:44 pm

@Good Grief – One game is not a statistically relevant universe. What is your school affiliation? Afraid to say? Ohio State has seven national football championships (Wikipedia) including the 2002 title. In fact, in 2002 I had to hear Georgia fans whining about how they would have given undefeated Miami a “better game” in the Fiesta Bowl – meanwhile all the Buckeyes did was defeat Miami in double overtime. Better game indeed.

cooper

January 5th, 2011
2:46 pm

ARdawg,

They cheated by not being responsible as an institute of higher learning and as a program by not sitting their suspended players. This season had two other guys that were caught doing the exact same thing, but at an even far smaller level, and were dealt with immediately. Just because the Sugar Bowl executives didn’t want to lose any money and worked with the NCAA to enforce their never before used loophole bylaw, doesn’t mean Tressell had to be just as irresponsible and classless. It was embarrassing as a football fan to see that last night. Get your head out of your own a$$

TONE

January 5th, 2011
2:47 pm

I am pretty sure miles wont take the michigan job because all the grass on the fields will be frozen late in the year

ARdawg

January 5th, 2011
2:47 pm

There are no asterisks cooper. It is, what it is. You lose, you lose, you win, you win. Simple as that. Ohio St won, Arkansas lost. End of story

Joe Bob Thibodaux

January 5th, 2011
2:49 pm

cooper, if you were a boxer, you would be swinging after the bell.
I suppose that the analogy of a three legged cat trying to cover something up would also be appropriate. Gee, if you can’t get the home field calls (and you don’t tackel and make points) then……

See you in 2014 cooper.

The Karl Childers

January 5th, 2011
2:50 pm

@JBT – LSU gave up 31 to AK, Ohio State gave up 26. LSU scored 23 against AK, Ohio State scored 31. Therefore, I must conclude that OSU would have handily defeated LSU if LSU had qualified for the Sugar Bowl. Which they didn’t. Thank you very much. Consider yourself bitch-slapped.

Good grief

January 5th, 2011
2:52 pm

My affiliation is all over this blog. Stop being lazy and look it up. I picked OSU to win in 2002 actually. Only one in my pool to do so. 7 titles that I’m sure half of which are also claimed by other teams, probably more deserving teams as well. Btw, 3 of the Suckeyes’ BCS wins were against chumps. K-State, Notre Dame and A&M. Pathetic.

GTBob

January 5th, 2011
2:53 pm

Why would a coach leave an SEC school for a Big 10 school?

There are many reasons Les Miles might leave:

1. More money.
2. More history and tradition.
3. Returning to alma mater with a chance to be a hero.
4. Getting sick of under appreciation from LSU fans.
5. Coaching in the Big House.

Michigan has been pretty bad lately but it’s still one of the top jobs in college football.

cooper

January 5th, 2011
2:54 pm

Yes, OSU won by playing suspended players and by the courtesy of two miracle TDs

The Karl Childers

January 5th, 2011
2:55 pm

@Cooper – the only embarrassing thing last night was the inability of Arkansas “receivers” to actually receive anything. They must know it hurts to be hit by Big Ten talent.

SEC Elite

January 5th, 2011
2:55 pm

@The Karl Childers (since you asked)

http://football.stassen.com/records/opponent.html

The overall record for football for SEC teams versus Ohio State is:

SEC – 11 wins, 6 losses, and 2 ties

These statistics date back to 1865

SEC Wins:
Alabama – 24, Ohio State – 17 (1995 Citrus Bowl)
Alabama – 16, Ohio State – 10 (1986 Kickoff Classic)
Alabama – 35, Ohio State – 6 (1978 Sugar Bowl)
Auburn – 31, Ohio State – 14 (1990 HallofFame Bowl)
LSU – 38, Ohio State – 24 (2008 BCS Nat’l Champ)
Georgia – 21, Ohio State – 14 (1993 Citrus Bowl)
Florida – 41, Ohio State – 14 (2007 BCS Nat’l Champ)
S. Carolina – 31, Ohio State – 28 (2002 Outback Bowl)
S. Carolina – 24, Ohio State – 7 (2001 Outback Bowl)
Tennessee – 20, Ohio State – 14 (1996 Citrus Bowl)
Vanderbilt – 26, Ohio State – 21 (1931)

Ohio State Wins versus the SEC:
LSU – 33, Ohio State – 36 (1988)
Arkansas – 26, Ohio State – 26 (2010 Sugar Bowl)
Vanderbilt – 0, Ohio State – 20 (1933)
Vanderbilt – 0, Ohio State – 5 (1909)
Kentucky – 6, Ohio State – 19 (1935)
Kentucky – 0, Ohio State – 49 (1919)

Ties with the SEC and OSU:
Auburn – 0, OSU – 0 (1917)
LSU – 13, OSU – 13 (1977)

Good Record there for OSU!!!

OSU has only beaten an SEC team in the modern era of football two times in the last 60 years!!!

Good Job, OSU!!! That Sugar Bowl victory must have been really SWEET!!!

Joe Bob Thibodaux

January 5th, 2011
2:56 pm

Karl Childers, I suppose somewhere in your sentence there was an attempt to make a point. Who knows what. Perhaps you should grind up some buckeyes and try to catch some fish. No one handily defeated LSU this year grape nuts.

The Karl Childers

January 5th, 2011
2:58 pm

@Good Grief – I get it. You attended all the SEC schools, which gives you every right to be a homer for the entire conference. Still don’t know your affiliation, bitch.

Bear's Ghost

January 5th, 2011
3:00 pm

@Karl -2:58 — When did LSU play Alaska????

The Karl Childers

January 5th, 2011
3:01 pm

@SEC Elite – Again I must ask who you’re rooting for. Surely, it can’t be the entire SEC.

The Karl Childers

January 5th, 2011
3:02 pm

@Bear’s Ghost – LOL, sorry make that AR. You obviously work for the post office.

Stephen

January 5th, 2011
3:02 pm

@Cooper. LSU also got a phantom “celebration penalty” though Green did celebrate. The difference? LSU drove down the field and scored while Georgia turned it over. Maybe watch the whole game next time?

Musashi

January 5th, 2011
3:04 pm

The Karl Childers

Please refrain from the profanity, kids read this blog. Thank you.

gcs

January 5th, 2011
3:11 pm

I can’t see Les miles leaving LSU now. Michigan is a big stinking mess and LSU is an elite team.

.

The Karl Childers

January 5th, 2011
3:11 pm

@Good Grief – That’s seven CONSENSUS national championships for the Ohio State Buckeyes and seven others that are not recognized by the NCAA or the school itself.

@Musashi – Just ask your mommy to filter your internet access.

The Karl Childers

January 5th, 2011
3:13 pm

@gcs – Elite teams haven’t played in the Cotton Bowl since the 1970’s.

Buckeye

January 5th, 2011
3:14 pm

To all you blithering “DAWG” fans……..When it’s all said and done, when one looks back at this season, would you rather:

A) Be 12-1, won a BCS Bowl vs. the SEC and ranked again in the top 5

OR

B) Be 6-7, be part of a fanbase stammering to fire your coach, OC, DC, lose a 3rd Tier Bowl to a Conf USA Team and be unranked?

Hmmm?

As fars as the NCAA and violiations, etc., don’t beat up the kids, adults made the decisions. Kids do what kids do, make dumb selfish mistakes.

GO BUCKS! SECville SUCKS!

BAMA dude

January 5th, 2011
3:14 pm

Karl Childers

January 5th, 2011
1:52 pm
@Spinoza – The Ohio State University is 5-4 in BCS bowl games, considered the modern standard of bowl excellence.

5-4? Average. Yay!

dawgster

January 5th, 2011
3:16 pm

@The Karl Childers….either clean up your act with the language or your link will be posted…this is your last warning….Your behavior is childlike….You have been asked to clean it up by several people…I would take heed to that….

ARdawg

January 5th, 2011
3:17 pm

cooper

Miracle touchdowns? Aren’t all touchdowns miracles? Listen plumehead are you the same numbskull as bahwahh? Are you aware that the team with the most points at the end of the game actually is the team who wins the game? Do you have a rule book that states a miracle touchdown is worth less than 6 points over a well planned, executed touchdown? I didn’t think so, now get busy building them pizzas

Mike

January 5th, 2011
3:17 pm

JBT – LSU gave up 31 to AK, Ohio State gave up 26. LSU scored 23 against AK, Ohio State scored 31. Therefore, I must conclude that OSU would have handily defeated LSU if LSU had qualified for the Sugar Bowl. Which they didn’t. Thank you very much. Consider yourself bitch-slapped.

The Karl Childers……………..The difference in the 2 games was that the Ark. receivers
didn’t have a severe case of the dropsies when they played LSU. Ark, no doubt, would have won that game last night, if the receivers would have caught all of the passes they dropped.
Ark. probably would have won by 14 pts.
That being said though, I would like to say I was impressed with OSU. Your D line did a hell of a job putting pressure on Mallet and Pryor is a hell of an athlete! with a great set of receivers.

The Karl Childers

January 5th, 2011
3:19 pm

@Bama dude – You can’t be average and make it to a BCS bowl. That’s 5-4 against the cream of the college crop, dude. You dig?

ARdawg

January 5th, 2011
3:19 pm

Buckeye

Don’t lose you composure in the face of victory. It is very unbecoming. If you can’t gloat with a trace of class, don’t gloat at all

Buckeye

January 5th, 2011
3:20 pm

Sugar Bowl Champions! Nope, it’s not 1980.

The 2011 Sugar Bowl Champions THE Ohio State University!

Buckeye

January 5th, 2011
3:22 pm

AR Dawg,

Gloat? Who me? Read your fellow “Dawg” posters than we can talk about gloating.

The Karl Childers

January 5th, 2011
3:23 pm

@dawgster – only Musashi has complained, besides a bitch is just a female dog. Very common phrase among bulldog breeders. Get your mind out of the gutter, man.

SEC Elite

January 5th, 2011
3:24 pm

What K-K-K-K-Karl? No rebuttal?

The Karl Childers

January 5th, 2011
3:25 pm

@Mike – So let me get this straight. If they hadn’t actually played the game, Arkansas would have won by 14 points? Brilliant.

SEC Elite

January 5th, 2011
3:28 pm

TO ALL OHIO STATE FANS WHO THINK LAST NIGHT WAS A TRIUMPH!

The overall record for football for SEC teams versus Ohio State:

SEC – 11 wins, 6 losses, and 2 ties

These statistics date back to 1865

SEC Wins:
Alabama – 24, Ohio State – 17 (1995 Citrus Bowl)
Alabama – 16, Ohio State – 10 (1986 Kickoff Classic)
Alabama – 35, Ohio State – 6 (1978 Sugar Bowl)
Auburn – 31, Ohio State – 14 (1990 HallofFame Bowl)
LSU – 38, Ohio State – 24 (2008 BCS Nat’l Champ)
Georgia – 21, Ohio State – 14 (1993 Citrus Bowl)
Florida – 41, Ohio State – 14 (2007 BCS Nat’l Champ)
S. Carolina – 31, Ohio State – 28 (2002 Outback Bowl)
S. Carolina – 24, Ohio State – 7 (2001 Outback Bowl)
Tennessee – 20, Ohio State – 14 (1996 Citrus Bowl)
Vanderbilt – 26, Ohio State – 21 (1931)

Ohio State Wins versus the SEC:
LSU – 33, Ohio State – 36 (1988)
Arkansas – 26, Ohio State – 26 (2010 Sugar Bowl)
Vanderbilt – 0, Ohio State – 20 (1933)
Vanderbilt – 0, Ohio State – 5 (1909)
Kentucky – 6, Ohio State – 19 (1935)
Kentucky – 0, Ohio State – 49 (1919)

Ties with the SEC and OSU:
Auburn – 0, OSU – 0 (1917)
LSU – 13, OSU – 13 (1977)

BAMA dude

January 5th, 2011
3:28 pm

The Karl Childers

January 5th, 2011
3:19 pm
@Bama dude – You can’t be average and make it to a BCS bowl. That’s 5-4 against the cream of the college crop, dude. You dig?

Actually, if tOSU had lost one more time, #9 Michigan St. would been in the Rose Bowl. 49-7. You dig?

Oh, and tOSU is actually 6-3 in BCS Bowl games. Of course, five of the six wins came against teams who finished with three losses and out of the top ten.

The Karl Childers

January 5th, 2011
3:30 pm

@SEC Elite – Kudos to Alabama and South Carolina for multiple wins over Ohio State. Any others are one -hit wonders.

ARdawg

January 5th, 2011
3:31 pm

Buckeye

Congrats on the win but please, keep it in the proper perspective. Your Bucks didn’t beat Georgia and as far as I am concerned, you are just the same as “your fellow Dawg posters” posting mindless dribble. I’ve seen you on these blogs for a while and you usually have some decent posts. Don’t spoil it and your good name because some of these GT fans posing as Dawgs “did it first”. Very uncouth

BAMA dude

January 5th, 2011
3:31 pm

The Karl Childers

January 5th, 2011
3:30 pm
@SEC Elite – Kudos to Alabama and South Carolina for multiple wins over Ohio State. Any others are one -hit wonders.

Doean’t seem like the Bucks have been doing any one hit wondering in the SEC.

NORCROSS DAWG

January 5th, 2011
3:33 pm

DOES ANYBODY IN THE SPORTS WORLD THINK THAT THE MICHIGAN AD EVER LET THE THOUGHT OF GOING AFTER MARK RICHT ENTER HIS MIND? I CAN ANSWER FOR EVERYONE= HELL TO THE NO !!!

Buckeye

January 5th, 2011
3:34 pm

SEC Elite,

Last night was a triump. We won.

As far as the history lesson, you copied and pasted a previous posters info. Feel better?

Remember, we’re coming to Rocky Top in 2018/19 and we’re gonna pull out the hedges down to their hairy roots on 2020.

The Karl Childers

January 5th, 2011
3:34 pm

@BAMA dude – don’t understand your Michigan State point but thanks for setting the record straight about the BCS bowl record. That’s 6-3 against the cream of the college crop. They only had the third loss after Ohio State beat them. You dig?

Joe Bob Thibodaux

January 5th, 2011
3:35 pm

2theadvocate.com Miles says that no one should worry. That sounds about as defenitive as “Have a great day” to me.

JBT

SEC Elite

January 5th, 2011
3:36 pm

One more time, for the cause…

http://football.stassen.com/records/opponent.html

The overall record for football for SEC teams versus Ohio State is:

SEC – 11 wins, 6 losses, and 2 ties

These statistics date back to 1865

SEC Wins:
Alabama – 24, Ohio State – 17 (1995 Citrus Bowl)
Alabama – 16, Ohio State – 10 (1986 Kickoff Classic)
Alabama – 35, Ohio State – 6 (1978 Sugar Bowl)
Auburn – 31, Ohio State – 14 (1990 HallofFame Bowl)
LSU – 38, Ohio State – 24 (2008 BCS Nat’l Champ)
Georgia – 21, Ohio State – 14 (1993 Citrus Bowl)
Florida – 41, Ohio State – 14 (2007 BCS Nat’l Champ)
S. Carolina – 31, Ohio State – 28 (2002 Outback Bowl)
S. Carolina – 24, Ohio State – 7 (2001 Outback Bowl)
Tennessee – 20, Ohio State – 14 (1996 Citrus Bowl)
Vanderbilt – 26, Ohio State – 21 (1931)

Ohio State Wins versus the SEC:
LSU – 33, Ohio State – 36 (1988)
Arkansas – 26, Ohio State – 26 (2010 Sugar Bowl)
Vanderbilt – 0, Ohio State – 20 (1933)
Vanderbilt – 0, Ohio State – 5 (1909)
Kentucky – 6, Ohio State – 19 (1935)
Kentucky – 0, Ohio State – 49 (1919)

Ties with the SEC and OSU:
Auburn – 0, OSU – 0 (1917)
LSU – 13, OSU – 13 (1977)

Buckeye

January 5th, 2011
3:36 pm

Michigan will be back. Hire Richt? Kidding, right?

ARdawg

January 5th, 2011
3:37 pm

Hire Richt, sheiiot, we’ll give ya Richt

BAMA dude

January 5th, 2011
3:37 pm

The Karl Childers

January 5th, 2011
3:34 pm
@BAMA dude – don’t understand your Michigan State point but thanks for setting the record straight about the BCS bowl record. That’s 6-3 against the cream of the college crop. They only had the third loss after Ohio State beat them. You dig?

Kansas State, Texas A & M, Oregon, Notre Dame, and Arkansas are not the cream of the college crop. Talk about your one hit wonders. But keep thinking what you need to think about to keep your mind off the final score of the MNC games vs. the SEC.

Buckeye

January 5th, 2011
3:38 pm

Crap, even Vanderbilt beat Ohio State.

The Karl Childers

January 5th, 2011
3:38 pm

@BAMA dude – You mean besides last night? Actually, OSU owns Vandfbilt (1909, 1933).

SEC Elite

January 5th, 2011
3:39 pm

Oh…and, by the way…

Four of those six SEC losses to OSU were Kentucky and Vanderbilt in the early 1900’s. Way to go OSU!!!

BAMA dude

January 5th, 2011
3:39 pm

Oh, and the Michigan State point was that they are hardly the cream of the college crop but defeated the Big Ten champion. Bama beat the team that beat the team that beat you by six touchdowns. Now you dig?

The Karl Childers

January 5th, 2011
3:40 pm

BAMA dude

Your an idiot

BAMA dude

January 5th, 2011
3:42 pm

The Karl Childers

January 5th, 2011
3:40 pm
BAMA dude

Your an idiot

Well, if YOU’RE going to call me an idiot when I’m correcting you on the facts that support YOUR argument, then at least brush up on YOUR homonyms.

Buckeye

January 5th, 2011
3:45 pm

SEC,

Who’s YOUR team?

The Karl Childers

January 5th, 2011
3:45 pm

Drinkers of The SEC Kool-Aid – please don’t compare your conference’s record against Ohio State. Unless you have the stones to tell this blog your team affiliation don’t compare a conference against one team. Unless, that is, you’re implying that it takes an entire conference to bring down little ol’ Ohio State University.

The Karl Childers

January 5th, 2011
3:49 pm

@BAMA dude – Ohio State’s lone loss this year was at Wisconsin. OSU defeated Michigan State. Dig? I didn’t write the “your an idiot” post. You should have seen that it’s grammatically incorrect. If I’d written it it would say “you’re an idiot.”

Buckeye

January 5th, 2011
3:49 pm

Hey Auburn,

If any of you want to know how to beat the Ducks on a big stage ( the Rose Bowl still counts as a big stage, doesn’t it?), let us know and we’ll get you the coaches tape from our Rose Bowl victory a year ago. Happy to help.

Funny, can’t recall UGA’s bowl game last year.

Buckeye

January 5th, 2011
3:50 pm

Karl,

Ohio State and Michigan State did not play this season.

charliecole

January 5th, 2011
3:54 pm

Here’s why Miles should stay in Baton Rouge..

http://www.secsportsworld.blogspot.com

The Karl Childers

January 5th, 2011
3:55 pm

@Buckeye – SHHHHH, I’m on a roll.

PALADIN DEATH DEALER

January 5th, 2011
3:57 pm

Saban Looks Like Willie B:
YEA, I AGREE, THEY TRIED TO HOLD UP MISSISSIPPI STATE FOR BIG MONEY BUT DECIDED TO LET HIM COME ON TO AUBURN FOR FREE….THAT AIN’T FOOLING ANYBODY, AUBIE….NCAA GONNA STONE YALL AGAIN, JUST NOT RIGHT NOW BECAUSE OF NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP AND BIG MONEY ON THE LINE….THEY GONNA GET YA, JUST A MATTER OF TIME….

PALADIN DEATH DEALER

January 5th, 2011
4:00 pm

Buckeye:
YEA, IT WAS ANOTHER BOWL WIN FOR THE DAWGS LAST YEAR…NOT A GREAT BOWL, HOWEVER…AND CONGRATS, AFTER 9 CONSECUTIVE A$$ KICKINGS BY THE SEC, YALL FINALLY WIN ONE, ALTHOUGH YOU SORT OF BACKED INTO IT WHEN YOU GOT THE PUNT BLOCKED AND LOOKED AS IF YOU WOULD CHOKE THE CHEESE AGAIN…..

PALADIN DEATH DEALER

January 5th, 2011
4:06 pm

The Karl Childers:
9 CONSECUTIVE A$$ KICKINGS OUT OF 10 YEARS LAID ON OHIO STATE, THINK THAT IS THE SAME RECORD GEORGIA HAS VS. TECH IS OVER THE PAST 10 YEARS…..BUT THEY GOT A GENIUS COACH NOW THAT WINS MORAL VICTORIES….HE IS THE TOAST OF THE AJC….HE OUTCOACHED COACH RICHT BECAUSE HE ORDERED HIS DEFENSE TO LET UGA SCORE…UGA COULDN’T TELL IF THEY WERE LETTING THEM SCORE OR NOT BECAUSE IT WASN’T ANY DIFFERENT THAN WHAT IT HAD BEEN DOING THE ENTIRE GAME AND THE ENTIRE YEAR….

danny

January 5th, 2011
4:07 pm

I hope Les goes…good riddance

The Karl Childers

January 5th, 2011
4:09 pm

@PALADIN DEATH DEALER – The 2011 results are in, Ohio State 1 – SEC 0. Undefeated this year vs. SEC in basketball, too. Have a nice day.

Stephen

January 5th, 2011
4:10 pm

@ karls children

Even that 2002 title has a big fat asterisks on it. I hate Miami but the entire nation knows there was no holding to give you guys that last play. Probably the worst penalty in title history, but then again the NCAA loves the Big-10. How else to explain Green having to sit but Tattoo U getting the hand out?

Delbert D.

January 5th, 2011
4:11 pm

I hope Les stays. He’s the guy that makes LSU interesting to watch.

The Karl Childers

January 5th, 2011
4:15 pm

Oh and Barnhart, I can’t wait to read your Cam Newton spin on Thursday. I’m dying to know why Ohio State players should have been suspended for the Sugar Bowl and Newton shouldn’t sit for the BCS Championship game. I’ll be sure to suspend disbelief before I read the post.

PALADIN DEATH DEALER

January 5th, 2011
4:16 pm

The Karl Childers:
PETRINO ALMOST DOTTED THE “I” FOR YOU LAST NIGHT….GOOD TO SEE YOUR HEAD COACH TEACH THOSE 5 A LESSON THAT SOLD THAT STUFF AND GOT THE GREAT TATTS…..BUT THEY WILL BE BACK NEXT YEAR TO “TAKE THEIR PUNISHMENT”….ANYONE WHO BELIEVES THAT WOULD ALSO BELIEVE THAT SCAM NEWTON DIDN’T KNOW WHAT OLE DAD WAS DOING TO THE BOYS OVER AT MISS. STATE WHEN HE TRIED TO HOLD THEM HOSTAGE FOR MAJOR MONEY….GLAD HE DIDN’T TRY THAT AT AUBURN….THEY WOULD HAVE PROBABLY TURNED HIM AND HIS DAD IN…..MY SIDES ARE HURTING I’M LAUGHING SO HARD…..HOW DO YOU AUBIE’S PUT THAT STORY OUT WITH A STRAIGHT FACE…..AS THEY ARE SAYING AT AUBURN, YOU ARE ALL IN….

ARdawg

January 5th, 2011
4:17 pm

Heya Delbert!

IMHO Les is on the very long list. I’d venture to say he wouldn’t go if offered but he might for the right paycheck and they’d be craizer than him if they paid it

The Karl Childers

January 5th, 2011
4:18 pm

@Stephen – a holding penalty by a freshman DB on the last play of the game is no less a penalty than a holding penalty by a freshman DB on the first play of the game. Cheating is cheating, son, no matter when it happens.

PALADIN DEATH DEALER

January 5th, 2011
4:20 pm

The Karl Childers:
THERE YOU GO SWAPPING OVER TO BASKETBALL…..IN THE SEC EXCEPT AT KENTUCKY, THAT IS THE SPORT (FILLER) THEY PLAY BETWEEN THE END OF FOOTBALL SEASON AND THE START OF SPRING PRACTICE…..CONGRATS ON YOUR BASKETBALL TEAM, DID THEY GET FREE TATTS TOO….WILL CHECK THEM OUT NEXT TIME THEY PLAY OF TV….

ARdawg

January 5th, 2011
4:20 pm

There is no comparison to the Tatt5 and Cam Newt. The exact comparison is with AJ Green sitting out for 5 games. Of course AJ didn’t qualify for the newly found “Unique Opportunity” rule. NCAA and Barnhart are sellouts. They really challenge my devotion to the game which is waning with every ruling

Delbert D.

January 5th, 2011
4:20 pm

ARdawg – Yes, yes, yes and yes; I agree.

The Karl Childers

January 5th, 2011
4:23 pm

@PALADIN – Ohio State beat Ryan Mallett when he was with Michigan and beat him again when he was with Arkansas – he wilts under the manly bull rush of a Big Ten defensive line.

Buckeye

January 5th, 2011
4:24 pm

Paladin,

Funny, after the blocked punt I thought one of these kids needs to step and make a play – thinking it would be one of the backup DB’s who were thrust into action based of the many injuries. A reserve OL made a play and we won yet another BCS game.

Sorry, Paladin, and last year’s bowl win was against who??

PALADIN DEATH DEALER

January 5th, 2011
4:27 pm

THIS JUST IN……BAD NEWS FOR THE SEC……CAM’S GOING BACK TO AUBURN AND PLAY ANOTHER YEAR FOR THE TIGERS…..IF HE WENT TO THE NFL, HE WOULD HAVE TO TAKE A PAY CUT….YOU GOTTA LUV IT…..STILL BELIEVE AUBURN WINS BY 2 TD’S…..

Delbert D.

January 5th, 2011
4:27 pm

What is really interesting to me is the process that the NCAA uses to determine eligibility. I the Newton case, they 1) declared him ineligible; 2) and almost immediately, declared him eligible. I guess one has to be declared ineligible for them to rule on eligibility.

In the OSU Five case, what the heck happened with that process? Did they rule them ineligible, and then declared them eligible for 1 further game this school year? Makes no sense to me.

Stephen

January 5th, 2011
4:31 pm

@ Karl’s children

Come back to earth – a village is missing its idiot. I need Katzenmoyer to read something, oh wait, he can’t read because he went to Blowohio State. Maybe I can get maurice Clarett to give a “stay in school” speech lol?

PALADIN DEATH DEALER

January 5th, 2011
4:33 pm

I AM FROM FURMAN AND WE DIDN’T PLAY IN A BOWL GAME LAST YEAR….WE PALADINS STICK TOGETHER, THOUGH….WE SUCCEEDED IN RUNNING OFF OUR HEAD COACH THIS YEAR WHO HAD PUT 29 YEARS OF HIS LIFE INTO OUR PROGRAM AS A PLAYER, ASSISTANT COACH, AND HEAD COACH…..THEY SAY HE MADE SOME OF THE BIG MONEY CONTRIBUTORS MAD CAUSE THEY COULDN’T WIN ANYTHING AT THE GOLF TOURNEY HE HELD EVERY YEAR, AND WHEN THE BIG MONEY PEOPLE AT FURMAN TALK, OUR AD AND ALL HIS PUPPETS PAY ATTENTION, INCLUDING OUR PREZ…..I DIDN’T KNOW A RESERVE OFFENSIVE LINEMAN COULD MAKE A PLAY AND INTERCEPT A BALL ON DEFENSE AND SAVE THE GAME FOR THE BUCKEYES….YOU HAVE TAUGHT ME SOMETHING TODAY, DEAR BUCKEYE……

Delbert D.

January 5th, 2011
4:33 pm

The NFL can afford to buy out any player’s college “contract”. I’d fear for the player’s safety from the guys that paid him the money in that “contract”, though.

Stephen

January 5th, 2011
4:36 pm

@ Karls children

How is Ohio State’s 5-4 BCS record the standard when LSU is undefeated in BCS bowl games, including a drumming of Blowohio State in the title game? I would say 4-0 with two national championships is the modern standard son.

PALADIN DEATH DEALER

January 5th, 2011
4:38 pm

Delbert D:
THE NCAA’S GOT A LOT OF EXPLAINING TO DO….THEY HAVE REALLY PROTECTED THE BOWLS AT THE EXPENSE OF DOING WHAT WAS RIGHT……JUST SAY, MY DAD DID IT AND I DIDN’T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT IT…..

cooper

January 5th, 2011
4:40 pm

Only reason why the cheats at OSU got to play their “suspended” players is because the Big 10 is the NCAA darling. That and the crooks that run the Sugar Bowl wheeled and dealed to make sure the NCAA didn’t force any Suckeyes to sit out incase they had the urge to responsible and fair for a change.

Probably the most obvious example of corruption in the NCAA in decades.

cooper

January 5th, 2011
4:41 pm

Karl has to hang his hot on such mighty opponents as Notre Dame, Kansas St and freaking Texas A&M

Buckeye

January 5th, 2011
4:44 pm

Paladin,

Can you tell me what button you mash FOR ALL CAPS? YOUR POSTS ARE ANNOYING TO READ NO MATTER THE CONTENT????????

LIKE THE “MASH”???? WHEN IN ROME.

Delbert D.

January 5th, 2011
4:45 pm

Dang, Paladin D.D. are you using an old Model 19 teletype terminal? It’s hard to read.

Buckeye

January 5th, 2011
4:46 pm

Cooper,

The “Suckeyes” are a Top 5 Program – Year In Year Out. We’ll see what the 2011 pre-season rankings look like. Doubt UGA makes the top 25……

Huh?

January 5th, 2011
4:47 pm

Enjoy your victory today Buckeyes, because tomorrow morning the osu will still suck and you’ll still be stuck in ohio. You deserve a break today.

The Karl Childers

January 5th, 2011
4:48 pm

Stephen, my boy, I am saying that the modern standard of excellence is the BCS bowl system. Ohio State happens to have made nine BCS bowl appearances and won six of them. Can you count the dollars?

Katzenmoyer is a functional moron – if he couldn’t play football he would never have had the opportunity to pursue a college education. That’s the great thing about college athletic schlarships. Then again, Ohio State fans didn’t exactly pay good money to watch him take English exams either. You dig?

cooper

January 5th, 2011
4:50 pm

The Suckeyes are only a PRESEASON top 5 program thanks to the Big 10 bias that has been prevalent in the media since the beginning of time. I’m willing to bet the majority of the time the fools in the media have put them in the preseason top 5 they didn’t even finish in the top 10. And that’s saying something since they usually only have to play one real game a season.

The Karl Childers

January 5th, 2011
4:52 pm

@Huh? – Actually, I’m one Ohio State fan who moved to Georgia and made good. Tomorrow my focus will turn to NCAA basketball and the number-two ranked … drum roll please … Ohio State Buckeyes.

rex

January 5th, 2011
4:52 pm

You have to admit though, Tressell does have the best recruiting line in all the business. “Come to Ohio St. where we only play one tough game a year yet the idiot voters treat us as though we actually play SEC talent week in and week out.”

That’d be hard to beat!!

Common sense

January 5th, 2011
4:54 pm

SEC BCS win – More of the same. Will probably start the season 5-10 spots back than where they really should be.

Ohio St. BCS win – Automatic preseason top 3 spot for a minimum of 5 years, no matter how horrible they are during that time frame.

The Karl Childers

January 5th, 2011
4:56 pm

@rex – Not to mention telling them about all those former Buckeyes in the NFL. You see son, Ohio State runs a pro-style offense that NFL general managers prefer. You don’t see gimmick offenses and defenses in the Big Boy conferences like you do in the SEC.

haha!!!

January 5th, 2011
4:56 pm

Ohio St. basketball is almost as overrated as Texas basketall and Ga. Tech baseball.

Actually check that, OSU basketball is almost as overrated as OSU football.

rex

January 5th, 2011
4:58 pm

Pretty sure the past 10-15 years UGA has had the most players drafted. Followed by Miami. Thanks for the laugh though.

How’s your latest Heisman winner doing? Last I saw he was still 3rd string and getting coaches fired ;)

The Karl Childers

January 5th, 2011
5:00 pm

@rex – You talking about Danny Weurfel?

charliecole

January 5th, 2011
5:02 pm

The Karl Childers

January 5th, 2011
5:08 pm

@rex – The top ten NCAA schools ranked in order of the number of players that played in the NFL.

1. Notre Dame
2. Southern Cal
3. Ohio State
4. Michigan
5. Penn State
6. Nebraska
7. Tennessee
8. Oklahoma
9. Pittsburgh
10. UCLA

Quite useful on the recruiting trail, I’m sure.

Ohio State 31 – SEC 26. Take a suck of that bitch.

BAMA dude

January 5th, 2011
5:08 pm

The Karl Childers
January 5th, 2011
4:56 pm

@rex – Not to mention telling them about all those former Buckeyes in the NFL. You see son, Ohio State runs a pro-style offense that NFL general managers prefer. You don’t see gimmick offenses and defenses in the Big Boy conferences like you do in the SEC.

Calling the B10 a big boy conference might be the funniest thing yet. Did you watch the bowls on New Year’s?

The Karl Childers

January 5th, 2011
5:14 pm

@BAMA dude – You know BAMA dude, when you compete in the Big Ten the exhibition bowl season just isn’t as important as it might be to, say the number three finisher in the SEC. Big Ten championships are what it’s all about. Bowls are a well earned vacation from the crucible that is Big Ten football.

The Karl Childers

January 5th, 2011
5:18 pm

Personally I must confess that I find the Division names Leaders & Legends pretentious, hypocritical and misleading. What kind of legend and leader was Woody Hayes when he punched that Clemson player after a humiliating loss? Earle Bruce’s firing was certainly the stuff of legends also. Yep, we lead by example.

BAMA dude

January 5th, 2011
5:23 pm

The Karl Childers
January 5th, 2011
5:14 pm

@BAMA dude – You know BAMA dude, when you compete in the Big Ten the exhibition bowl season just isn’t as important as it might be to, say the number three finisher in the SEC. Big Ten championships are what it’s all about. Bowls are a well earned vacation from the crucible that is Big Ten football.

You’d think that “crucible” would’ve had those Bucks a little better prepared for the MNC games, huh?

Rich Rod

January 5th, 2011
5:27 pm

Miles you better stay where you are. The cupboard was bare when I got there and I did not do a thing to improve it!!!!!

The Karl Childers

January 5th, 2011
5:29 pm

@The Fake Karl Childers – Leaders and Legends wouldn’t be my first choice either – I kind of like “shirts” and “skins” myself. Woody Hayes punched Charlie Bauman because Bauman was taunting the Ohio State sideline. Who among us hasn’t wanted, at one time or another, to punch a guy that was taunting our team? At any rate, the University fired him the next day. End of story.

The Karl Childers

January 5th, 2011
5:31 pm

@BAMA dude – I stand by my earlier statement.

DIT

January 5th, 2011
5:39 pm

I just heard from a friend close with the MI program that they are getting ready to roll out the red carpet for Les Miles. This could get interesting after the Cotton Bowl!

Stephen

January 5th, 2011
5:42 pm

Mile’s buy-out is 14 million alone. Is there even that much left in the state after GM and the Tom Izzo raise?

hmmm?

January 5th, 2011
5:44 pm

I think LSU is looking for a reason to get rid of the mad hatter. They can’t seem to get rid of him because he keeps winning. If I were him I would bolt to Michigan. He will at least have a couple of years to turn things around and if he does he will be seen as genius coach like Paul Johnson.

BAMA dude

January 5th, 2011
5:46 pm

The Karl Childers
January 5th, 2011
5:31 pm

@BAMA dude – I stand by my earlier statement.

No doubt in my mind. Delusion like that is inimitable.

LEROY

January 5th, 2011
5:46 pm

Michigan is MUSH!!!!!

Beast from the East

January 5th, 2011
5:50 pm

LSU is a better job than Michigan. Miles will only leave if they pay him considerably more. Even then it’s no lock. Much easier to recruit at LSU.

boog

January 5th, 2011
5:52 pm

Hey…tony… why don’t you do an article on how Bama oversigns and runs players from the program so they can sign top classes every year? Instead of this vanilla journalism. They have eight srs. this year and twenty one commits? They have signed 112 players the last four yrs. Auburn is even worse. Instead you hold them up as the standard of excellence. But if you could find your way out of Bama’s butt long enough to do an unbiased article on this sham it would be most appreciated.

Les Miles Clock Management Team

January 5th, 2011
6:00 pm

The food and women aren’t quite as tasty in Ann Arbor as in Baton Rouge but we are getting kind of tired of all that heat and humidity and all those rednecks…

boog?

January 5th, 2011
6:01 pm

@boog

Why would anyone care how many players Alabama signs? Bama adheres to the same NCAA mandated standards as every other school. They can’t really help it if the best players desperately want to play there. When has Tony written anything about Alabama anyway? He’s a Georgia homer.

Huh?

January 5th, 2011
6:02 pm

@Les Miles Clock Management Team

If you think that you can escape rednecks by going North, then I know you’ve never been to Ohio or Michigan. ;-)

Cecil Newton

January 5th, 2011
6:05 pm

Just wanted to update everyone. I’m rolling into Glendale but I think I’m going to make a quick sidetrip to Tempe in my Escalade to pick up some shorties and blow for some real BCS partying- bought and paid for by my friends at Auburn. I love y’all!

Les Miles Clock Management Team

January 5th, 2011
6:07 pm

Good point Huh?, although, I believe up there they call them hicks- but same difference!

Ohio Pride

January 5th, 2011
6:07 pm

Huh?

January 5th, 2011
6:08 pm

Pop… Coke

Hick… Redneck

Yep… Same difference!

Huh?

January 5th, 2011
6:09 pm

Auburn… Ohio State

UmmHmm…

Huh?

January 5th, 2011
6:13 pm

Stars… Asterisks

It’s all good!

War Eagle!!!

January 5th, 2011
6:15 pm

War Eagle, fly through da hood
Ain’t got no classes, grades still be good
War Eagle, pays more than State
Sign up and don’t be late
Go! Go! Go!
Probation, comin’ again
Hit ‘em late, Hit ‘em late,
Clam up and spin, Hey!
War Eagle, cheat for Auburn,
Stepchild of Dixie Land!

Stephen

January 5th, 2011
6:16 pm

@Karl

I posted this before but the links I included held it up for moderation so now without the links…

I can name 20 LSU players in the NFL alone, including three in the top 10 just three years ago. Where did you get those numbers?

I agree that Blowhio State churns out a good many defensive NFL players, but I know for a fact that Miami is number one and Tennessee is number 2. You guys had a monster haul in 2004 which skews the totals somewhat. LSU had the largest percentage of draftees go in the first round though I’m not sure if that means anything.

Being a Saints fan, I do say thank you for Will Smith and Malcolm Jenkins. The Patriots are full of LSU Tigers – how has that worked out for them?

So, since 1999, the schools with the most draft picks

1. Miami
2. Tennessee
3. Ohio State
4. Georgia
5. Florida State
6. Texas
7. USC
8. Michigan
9. Florida
10. Purdue (who knew?)
11. Notre Dame
12. Virginia Tech
13. LSU
14. Nebraska
15. Wisconsin

The top conference? SEC

The Southeastern Conference has consistently had the most NFL players. In the 2007 season, the SEC had 263 players on NFL rosters. The ACC had 238 players, Big Ten 234 players, Pac-10 183 players, Big 12 176 players and Big East 84 players. That is the most recent year I could find numbers on.

4 dead in ohio

January 5th, 2011
6:20 pm

@Stephen

Why waste your time? Karl admits that he got the hell out of Ohio at his first opportunity, but getting the Ohio out of Karl is a lost cause. Facts are merely a nuisance to him.

The Karl Childers

January 5th, 2011
6:33 pm

The Karl Childers

January 5th, 2011
6:35 pm

@Stephen – It takes real talent to craft questions where the answer is always “the SEC.” Don’t let the facts get in the way of a good story.

Ohio State 31 – SEC Powerhouse 26. Take a suck of that, bitches.

Delbert D.

January 5th, 2011
7:16 pm

Let’s look at a couple of playoff teams and their conference breakdowns:

Steelers Roster by Conference

ACC_______11
Big Ten_____9
SEC________7
Big-12______5
C-USA______4
MWC_______4
PAC-10_____4
MAC_______3
Big East____2
Sun Belt____1
IND________1
Div II_______1

Falcons Roster by Conference

ACC_______13
SEC_______10
Big Ten_____9
PAC-10_____8
Big-12______6
Big East____3
Big Sky_____3*
WAC_______2
CAA________2*
C-USA______1
MWC_______1
MAC_______1
MEAC______1*

Div II______2

*FCS

Slingblade

January 5th, 2011
7:30 pm

OSU is the Champion of the Big10.

Why then, aren’t they even playing one of the SEC’s Division Champions, much less the overall Conference Champion?

You can pick and choose time-frames and stats all you want, but your Champion has never beaten our Champion. You still haven’t. You guys get inflated marks against the SEC the same way the SEC gets inflated marks against your conferences. You schedule a lot of games against the Vandys and Kentuckys while we in the SEC schedule the Northwesterns and the Michigan States. In head-to-head post-season competition between the Conference Champions, the SEC rules the Big 10.

If you desire a specific team-to-team comparison, then The University of Alabama, for instance, has a superior football program to that of the Ohio State University. Had you played Alabama, rather than Arkansas in The Sugar Bowl, then I suspect that much would now be evident.

Delbert D.

January 5th, 2011
7:30 pm

Dave Brandon, the Michigan AD is the former CEO of Domino’s.

GodFather

January 5th, 2011
7:32 pm

Okay… But what does that have to do with the price of Pizza?

Delbert D.

January 5th, 2011
7:36 pm

This nonsense has got to stop.

Death to the BCS.

16-team playoffs (conference champs and wild cards.)

Delbert D.

January 5th, 2011
7:36 pm

Papa John might get an offer as AD somewhere.

Delbert D.

January 5th, 2011
7:37 pm

By the way, “Godfather”, that was funny!

Delbert D.

January 5th, 2011
7:40 pm

“John Harbaugh, the coach of the Baltimore Ravens and the brother of Stanford Coach Jim Harbaugh, said on his radio show: “I think the Michigan thing is done now. I think that’s over. I don’t think he’s going to have anything to do with that.” NYTimes

Playoffs for All !!!

January 5th, 2011
7:43 pm

Only thing is… If the same guys who now run the BCS and the NCAA run the Playoffs the same way… Then what’s really different?

Playoffs for All !!!

January 5th, 2011
7:46 pm

Michigan’s troubles are far deeper than the HC position. Harbaugh caught lightning in a bottle this year. He’s a smart guy. He’ll strike while the iron’s hot, and he’ll get a much better offer than Michigan.

Delbert D.

January 5th, 2011
7:50 pm

The BCS is the problem. All the NCAA has to do is host the playoffs. I remember when the NCAA basketball tournament was 16 teams. By the way, the NIT is now a subsidiary of the NCAA, so perhaps the NCAA can host an invitational “tournament” (bowl games) for the schools that don’t make the playoffs.

Playoffs for All !!!

January 5th, 2011
7:52 pm

I don’t believe that Stanford would have beaten VA Tech during the regular season. Beamer’s teams rarely (if ever) perform well after this much time off.

Playoffs for All !!!

January 5th, 2011
7:53 pm

1 2 4 8 16 32 64 …

Playoffs for All !!!

January 5th, 2011
7:55 pm

Start The Playoffs© on September 3. 128 teams.

Delbert D.

January 5th, 2011
7:56 pm

“(Brandon) conceded that the candidate many alumni and fans had been clamoring for, Jim Harbaugh, a former Michigan quarterback who had just coached Stanford to its best season in modern history, was most likely headed to the N.F.L. instead. NYTimes

Delbert D.

January 5th, 2011
7:58 pm

That is the right formula; all Div 1a schools have a shot.

Delbert D.

January 5th, 2011
8:02 pm

It is really dumb to play for 12 or 13 weeks, and then wait anywhere from 3 weeks to 6 weeks to play the next game.

Delbert D.

January 5th, 2011
8:08 pm

Some folks on the other blog are dissatisfied with Mark Richt’s comments. See what you can make of the Michigan AD’s comments:

““There’s a thought of getting a defensive-minded everything,” he said. “I want the ball boys to be defensive minded.”

Being a pizza mogul doesn’t seem to translate into capabilities of an AD.

Playoffs for All !!!

January 5th, 2011
8:34 pm

I want the cheerleaders to take Karate classes. That’s what I’m talkin’ about!

Dee Fence!!!

Playoffs for All !!!

January 5th, 2011
8:45 pm

I would reduce the regular season to 10 games and require each team to take 2 bye weeks during the regular season. Start the playoffs 2 weeks after the regular season ends. Wind it all up on New Year’s Day.

Yee Haw !!!

GSM

January 5th, 2011
9:05 pm

I hope Coach Miles stays at LSU. Players love him. Many of us alum love his “mad hatter” ways (he’s FUN)! Moreover, Les Miles WINS in Bayou Land …

Rank Em

January 5th, 2011
9:14 pm

What would the BCS Rankings be if they were updated now?
Why aren’t they?
Would TCU move up to Number 2?

BCS Rankings at the End of the Regular Season

1 Auburn 13-0 Plays Oregon
2 Oregon 12-0 Plays Auburn
3 TCU 12-0 Defeated Wisconsin 21-19
4 Stanford 11-1 Defeated Virginia Tech 40-12
5 Wisconsin 11-1 Lost 21-19 to TCU
6 Ohio State 11-1 Defeated Arkansas 31-26
7 Oklahoma 11-2 Defeated Connecticut 48-20
8 Arkansas 10-2 Lost 31-26 to OSU
9 Michigan State 11-1 Lost 49-7 to Alabama
10 Boise State 11-1 Defeated Utah 26-3
11 LSU 10-2 Plays Texas A&M
12 Missouri 10-2 Lost 27-24 to Iowa
13 Virginia Tech 11-2 Lost 40-12 to Stanford
14 Oklahoma State 10-2 Defeated Arizona 36-10
15 Nevada 12-1 Plays Boston College
16 Alabama 9-3 Defeated Michigan State 49-7
17 Texas A&M 9-3 Plays LSU
18 Nebraska 10-3 Lost 19-7 to Washington
19 Utah 10-2 Lost 26-3 to BSU
20 South Carolina 9-4 Lost 26-17 to FSU
21 Mississippi State 8-4 Defeated Michigan 52-14
22 West Virginia 9-3 Lost 40-12 to Stanford
23 Florida State 9-4 Defeated South Carolina 26-17
24 Hawaii 10-3 Lost 62-35 to Tulsa
25 UCF 10-3 Defeated Georgia 10-6

jumbeauxtiger

January 5th, 2011
10:34 pm

Rank Em,

I believe the Top 8 will be like this no matter what happens with the rest of the bowl games:

1. Auburn/Oregon winner
2. TCU
3. Auburn/Oregon loser
4. Stanford
5. Ohio St
6. Oklahoma
7. Wisconsin
8. Boise St

I stopped here because LSU still has to play in the Cotton Bowl and would likely be 9th with a win.

The Karl Childers

January 5th, 2011
10:42 pm

@Slingblade – Some people call it a Kaiser Blade, I call it a sling blade. Ohio State would have beaten Alabama like a dog. The closest team the SEC has to Ohio State is Auburn. Same type of QB 6′6″ – 235 lbs., but with a much better defense. Alabama was overrated from day one of the pre-season polls. The Ohio State University doesn’t duck anyone but the teams of the SEC sure do.

What you don’t understand is that the SEC has been irrelevant until very recently. The Rose Bowl is the “grand-daddy of all bowls” and it matched the PAC-10 champion against the Big Ten champion for years and years and nobody paid attention to the SEC except people who thought black people should drink from separate drinking fountains than white people.

To paraphrase the words of Moe Green ‘the Big Ten was making its bones while the SEC was going out with cheerleaders.” Now, I’ve had a lovely day beating up on “y’all” intellectually and now I have to go to bed. I leave you with one thought and that is, The Ohio State University 31 – SEC 26. Take a suck of that, bitches. Soo-eet dreams.

Gen Neyland

January 5th, 2011
11:45 pm

OSU lets it’s guys play and the NCAA gets a pat on the back for ‘creative enforcement’..? Let’s say I robbed a bank, got busted and sentenced to 10-20 but the judge lets me stay home and raise my 2 year old to the age of majority before I begin my sentence. He11 yeah…

David Granger

January 6th, 2011
12:28 am

Don’t know…but if I were Michigan, Harbaugh would be my first phone call.

Top Dawg

January 6th, 2011
6:54 am

It would be a mistake AND a demotion to go from LSU to Michigan.

Slingblade

January 6th, 2011
7:20 am

I’m an old fart. I remember when the Crimson Tide ruled the Rose Bowl as well — but you guys stopped inviting them, because you couldn’t compete. You still can’t compete with the best.

And… You still haven’t beaten our Champion. You didn’t even beat our runner-up.

Suck on that fool!

Arthur Redding, Jr.

January 6th, 2011
7:37 am

* I’ve come to like Les Miles. He’s spontaneous, genuine, has a real sense of humor . . . . He’s also been about the luckiest coach I’ve seen. More than a few footballs have bounced the right way for him. And to top it off, he may finally have a true quarterback in Zack Mettenburger. Would he go to Michigan? You got me–but he may be doing LSU a favor if he does leave.

** Ohio State beat the 4th best team in the SEC. Barely. And would someone tell me why Petrino called a pass with less than a yard to go when Arkansas was inside Ohio State’s 5-yard line? What’s wrong with the old quarterback sneak? Didn’t anybody watch Bart Starr win the game with a QB sneak against Dallas in that frigid weather about a century ago?

Mark Richt’s refusal to go for it with 4th and inches to go on the 2-and-a-half yard line after the offense just marched 95 yards on UGA’s first drive infuriated me. Way too conservative for a 6-6 team playing UCF in the fricking Liberty Bowl. Those 3 points on UGA’s field goal were very expensive in terms of much needed spirit for the players. Would UGA’s new AD please hire Paul Johnson to tutor Mark Richt on when to take risks.

After this season, does anybody have respect for the NCAA anymore? Talk about inconsistency with rules enforcement. Would somebody please put the NCAA rules enforcement team on probation.

Slingblade

January 6th, 2011
7:43 am

I am afraid that 2010 will be remembered as the year that the NCAA killed college football.

May it RIP…

Doug the Jacket

January 6th, 2011
8:04 am

Gone! The LSU fan base doesn’t appreciate the coach.

Rank Em

January 6th, 2011
8:05 am

@jumbeauxtiger

This ain’t a pre-season poll. You aren’t required to include Boise.

Bleu and Maze

January 6th, 2011
8:17 am

@Doug the Jacket

Robbie Caldwell is available. His team gave Northwestern all they wanted in the season opener.

He may not want the job, but Michigan should at least talk to him.

Gomer Pyle

January 6th, 2011
8:33 am

Cobb Dawg

January 6th, 2011
8:35 am

I think I’m starting to see CMR’s main problem. Having grown up in the “Florida systems” (Miami and FSU) and practically raised under Bowden, he saw recruiting one-dimensionally. You get the biggest, fastest, and most athletic, with no regard to character. So you get kids in school who, while they could help your football team, sometimes, or usually, don’t. And when you get a superstar like, say, A.J. Green, he makes some spectacular catches, but has he made you a better team overall? Then you look at Gary Patterson’s TCU team. They have a roster full of good, hard-working kids who are coached up to believe that they are better than they really are. Which scenario is more effective. I think CMR takes the lazier approach and that keeps him in hot water. My advise would be to get good players who are of solid character and coach them up. They’ll stay in school, out of trouble, and will be productive. Throw in a couple of stars, also of good character (there are some), and you have a chance, year-in-and-year-out, to contend for a championship. What he’s doing now recruiting-wise, is obviously not working.

j kocan

January 6th, 2011
8:37 am

At least you are consistent Tony. Typical ignorant SEC Conference garbage. Judge and belittle some kids for a mistake yet your conference has two programs leading the nation in arrests (UGA & UF), every program has been on ncaa probation except for Vandy. And now your champion has a qb who was shopped to the highest bidder. Keep spewing your garbage. You are not Mr. college football since you know nothing or try to educate yourself about anything outside of your criminal conference. Arkansas was the hottest team in the SEC down the stretch but beat and if were not for some awful officiating that would have been a 3 touchdown blow out. Stay in the deep south as your act won’t work anywhere else. Didn’t y’all just lose to UCF?

Gomer Pyle

January 6th, 2011
8:45 am

@j kocan

If Arky was “the hottest team in the SEC down the stretch”, then why weren’t they in the Georgia Dome for the playoff game? Your cheaters are no better than ours — they’re just less likely to be punished. Or, at least, that was true prior to 2010.

The Karl Childers

January 6th, 2011
9:41 am

Well said Brother kocan. Can I get an amen.

John Coates

January 6th, 2011
12:32 pm

If Les leaves for MI the old rumor of Stave Spurrier to LSU will crop up, as well.

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LSUFAN

January 7th, 2011
4:30 pm

PLEASE, PLEASE MICHIGAN TAKE LES WITH YOU… WE NEED A REAL COACH AGAIN, SOMEONE WHO DOESNT CONGRATULATE BAD PLAYS BY HIS POOR GB, SOMEONE WHO DOESNT HAVE TO EAT GRASS OR HAVE TO BE THE LUCKIEST FOOL ON EARTH TO PULL OUT A WIN.. WE WOULD LOVE TO SEE NICK BACK OR JOHN GRUDEN, AT THIS POINT JUST ABOUT ANYONE. THE OLD SAYING RATHER BE LUCKY THAN GOOD… NOT, WITH BEING LUCKY YOU ARE A JOKE, WITH BEING GOOD COMES RESPECT, UNLESS U ARE CAM NEWTON, BUT THATS ANOTHER JOKE.

LSU baby!

January 8th, 2011
3:43 pm

If Les Miles leaves LSU:
#1 He’d be stupid
#2 It’d be the best thing for LSU
#3 He’ll never win at Michigan
Please Les Miles take the job! You’re the stupidest/luckiest coach in college football

Joe Bob Thibodaux

January 8th, 2011
8:25 pm

LSU baby!
LSUFAN

Imposters both.

Miles is 11-2 this year, you imposters.

JBT

alton

January 9th, 2011
11:58 am

let les miles go and hire jon gruden how yall feel bout dat

alton

January 9th, 2011
12:05 pm

the onlyreason les miles is 11 2 is cause we get studs at lsu we won them games on talent and heart not coaching