Charlie Weis to Florida. How’s that gonna work?

While we are waiting on Stanford’s Jim Harbaugh to exercise one of his many options and to see who is going to show for Ohio State tonight against Arkansas in the Sugar Bowl, it seems like a good time to catch up on the Coaching Carousel:

1. Charlie Weis to Florida. How is that gonna work? Weis knows offense and he knows how to make average quarterbacks good and good quarterbacks great. He’s got the rings to prove it. But I have two questions about Will Muschamp’s decision to bring the former Notre Dame head coach to Gainesville as offensive coordinator:

Can Weis work for a 39-year-old head coach whose personality is every bit as strong as his? Weis will be in charge of the offense but the head coach still makes the decision what to do on third down in a tight ball game. Weis has great confidence in his ability and I happen to think that’s a good thing. But Will Muschamp is the boss. Of course they discussed this. But discussing it in theory and doing it in the heat of battle are two different things.

Can Weis teach his system in 20 hours a week? He did it with Brady Quinn (good results) and Jimmy Clausen (mixed results) at Notre Dame. Can he do it with John Brantley or with any of the quarterbacks at Florida? The learning curve is steep and the time to teach is limited.

2. Maryland hired Randy Edsall. Huh? Don’t get me wrong. I really like Randy Edsall, the former Georgia Tech assistant coach who took Connecticut to the Fiesta Bowl. But the stated reason for firing Ralph Friedgen, the ACC Coach of the Year, was that attendance was down and that something needed to be done to get fannies back in the seats at Byrd Stadium. When Friedgen was forced out it was widely assumed that AD Kevin Anderson was going to tap Mike Leach, the former Texas Tech coach, to bring his wide open offense to College Park. That move made sense if the goal was to totally remake the image of the program. In Edsall Maryland has a very good coach but he’s a 52-year-old version of Friedgen, who was booted at age 63. The move makes no sense, unless…..

3. Mike Leach is untouchable as a head coach right now: The only thing that makes sense is that Maryland decided it could not touch Leach as a head coach right now. Leach had the infamous dust up with ESPN analyst Craig James over the treatment of his son, a player at Texas Tech. Leach still has lawsuits pending against Texas Tech and ESPN over his dismissal as head coach. Maryland is an Under Armour school and that company’s CEO, Kevin Plank, is a graduate and sits on the school’s Board of Directors. He is a Mike Leach guy. But I guess you can’t hire a coach who is suing his former school AND the biggest rights holder in all of college football. That’s just not good business.

4.  Michigan can’t keep Rich Rod, can they? They might if Jim Harbaugh is not available. Michigan athletics director Dave Brandon said he would not evaluate head football coach Rich Rodriguez until after the Gator Bowl game with Mississippi State on New Year’s Day.

That score, in case you missed it: Mississippi State 52, Michigan 14.

I’ve had a number of people tell me that this decision will be based on Jim Harbaugh’s availability. If he’s available and wants the job, it will be his. But Harbaugh will have several NFL options (49ers, Broncos, Panthers) and he could always come back to Stanford which is a pretty decent place to work. If Andrew Luck was coming back for his senior season, it might be tempting. But Harbaugh knows that he’ll never have more leverage in his career than he has right now. I will say this: Harbaugh going head to head with Jim Tressel of Ohio State on an annual basis would be fun to watch.

5. Just one man’s opinion. But if I was Dabo Swinney I would hire Ralph Friedgen as offensive coordinator. This idea came from my partner, Wes Durham. Swinney is catching some heat after a 6-7 season and let his offensive coordinator, Billy Napier, go. He needs a star to run that side of the ball so that he can be the head coach. He needs a veteran like Friedgen, who is one of the most brilliant offensive minds of our generation. I don’t know if Ralph would want to be a coordinator again after a decade as a head coach. But the gig would put him closer to his summer home at Lake Oconee in Greene County. Friedgen would essentially play the same role at Clemson that Weis will play at Florida. You can give him that side of the ball and never worry about it. And Friedgen could do some very good things with Tahj Boyd.

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281 comments Add your comment

Huh?

January 4th, 2011
9:21 am

m,

Did your Mommy write that little whine for you so you could paste it onto Tony’s blog every day?

joe

January 4th, 2011
9:23 am

As a gator hater, I have no problem with Weis as OC…he won’t have a Tom Brady running his offense and his results at ND and other stops have been less than impressive. I also don’t mind their new HC, unproven. He might turn out to be another CUM, but he could also turn out to be another Zooker too. The SECE will come down to the winner of the USC/UT game next October with UF and UGA going down hill next year.

Denver Dog

January 4th, 2011
9:25 am

Maybe Richt should hire The Fridge

JBD

January 4th, 2011
9:26 am

I don’t understand why everyone is calling CMR out for not firing Bobo. I could be wrong, but wasn’t this year one of the most prolific offensive performances that UGA has shown in quite a while? How many games did UGA score 30+ points in a row? Yes, i’ll give you that UGA scored no TD’s during the bowl game, but I think that has more to do with the mentality of the players (and timidness of CMR) than anything else. I like Bobo. Offensively, he got the job done. UGA’s problem this year was stopping teams: SC, Auburn, Florida, etc. Hopefully, UGA will fill some of our critical defensive positions with JUCO players and have a much improved defense. UGA’s defense was better this year, with a lower points per game average, but it has to get better if we want to see UGA rise to the top again next year.

Miles

January 4th, 2011
9:26 am

2 idiots for the day: Charlie Weis and Craig James!

2 good words for the day: Arkansas Razorbacks!

Gen Neyland

January 4th, 2011
9:29 am

Muschamp has admitted he’s no offensive guru. His evaluation of himself is that he needs someone better schooled in moving the pigskin forward. After all, a good OC should be more than a babysitter to an offense which is under the control of a DC minded HC…I’ve seen too many ex DC HC’s try to run an offense. Of course there are exceptions but all in all, it isn’t pretty.

dawgfan

January 4th, 2011
9:29 am

All these great offensive minds on the market and we’re stuck with Bobo. Simply unbelievable.

Did anybody watch the Orange Bowl last night? Yeah, I know. The ACC got humiliated yet again, but at least Virginia Tech was trying. Stanford scored on a long pass and a VT linebacker threw his mouthpiece in disgust. I LOVE that kind of enthusiasm. When was the last time you saw that sort of thing out of a Georgia player? We give up a 10 yard run and its like, “Ho hum. No big deal.” And as for Stanford, my God, what a team. I haven’t seen them play at all this year. I’ve been watching so much Georgia football that I forgot what a disciplined, hard working, and well coached team looks like. Its like night and freaking day compared to our squad.

Spokesman for the SEC East

January 4th, 2011
9:31 am

Jack this is for you Dumb Azz; Muschamp had a bad year and his defense was ranked 7th and Choke Grantham was ranked 30th. Florida started 4 true freshman against Penn State and Jawja loses their best two playa’s on D. Whose future looks brightest?

CF Gator

January 4th, 2011
9:32 am

The last time UF tried something like this was from 1996 – 1998 with Spurrier running the offense and Bob Stoops running the defense. I think that worked out fairly well.

collegeballfan

January 4th, 2011
9:32 am

Yeah, Friedgen at UGA would allow Ralph to live full time at his Lake Oconee house. Athens is just a short drive through the country.

Do ya think???????????

Truth

January 4th, 2011
9:33 am

Weise is going to UF for the fresh seafood dip

Dixie Redcoat Band

January 4th, 2011
9:35 am

Mickey Mouse could coach UF over the DAWGS. Maybe our AD should call the Stanford coach…

Spokesman for the SEC East

January 4th, 2011
9:36 am

joe, evidently you did not watch your daddy’s boy Dooley lose two games all by himself (LSU and NC). The winner of the East will be just like last year; the winner of the USC and UF games. By the way Weiss has proved himself offensively everywhere he has been. He had no D at ND. He took a 6th round draft pick from Michigan whose QB coach at Michigan was Scott Loefler who coincidently is the same moron who coached Scott Brantley this year.

Huh?

January 4th, 2011
9:36 am

WTH do Spurrier and Stoops have in common with Muschamp and Weis?

Dog Island Gator

January 4th, 2011
9:36 am

Well know body knows how Charlie Weis will work out at Florida Tony. But just look at the history of Flordia’s hires and their accomplishments. The Gator Nation feels good about W. Muschamp and the staff he’s putting together in Gainsville. This very well could be the continuation of championship RUNS at FL. Then there are other programs that keep on accepting (expecting) “waite until next year”. Thank you Urban. Welcome Wes and Charlie to the great Gator Nation.

Friedgen to UGA

January 4th, 2011
9:36 am

I think Friedgen to UGA as OC and make Bobo QB coach would be the PERFECT situation.

We all know he has a house at Lake Oconee.

He is friends with Richt.

He is friends with many big time UGA boosters.

MAKE IT HAPPEN ALREADY!!!

TommyJack

January 4th, 2011
9:37 am

Too many egos coming to gators. I predict (and hope) that it doesn’t work. OTOH, they can now claim to have the richest OC in the nation.

Spokesman for the SEC East

January 4th, 2011
9:38 am

Friedgen to UGA, would be a great hire. Only problem with the NCAA limits on coaching, Richt would have to fire Bobo the clown or someone else to make room for him.

Ron Franklin

January 4th, 2011
9:38 am

Spokesman for the SEC East

January 4th, 2011
8:26 am

Weiss will be great. His problem at ND was not scoring it was stopping other teams. The Gators started 4 true freshmen on defense saturday and now they have Muschamp’s brain to help also. Weiss will turn a poor QB like Brantley into someone who will be drafted. Dont forget Tom Brady was not picked until the 6th round and guess who his college QB coach was; Scott Loefler who has been Brantley’s coach. Loefler should be sued for coaching malpractice by Brantleys dad.

Is it even a possibility the John Brantley isn’t very good? Leave the football talk to the men, sweet baby.

dawgfan

January 4th, 2011
9:40 am

JBD, what are you a Tech fan? Who gives a flying crap about stats? Bobo is routinely outclassed by the upper echelon teams of the SEC. He has never demonstrated any ability to develop the tough and consistant running game that you need to win in this league. And since you’re so in to stats, why don’t you look up how many times we’ve turned the ball over on his watch. Why in the hell was Murray throwing that pass in overtime against Florida in the first place? We’ve got a freshmen QB in overtime in unarguably the biggest game of the year and Bobo’s got him zipping it down field like its backyard flag football. That’s coaching. You need to spend more time watching football games than you spend looking at the stat sheet. Stats are for losers.

Huh?

January 4th, 2011
9:40 am

Brantley’s better than Tebow — hadn’t you heard?

CF Gator

January 4th, 2011
9:40 am

Let’s see, the head coach was the offensive guru (Spurrier) who hired a bright defensive mind (Stoops) and gave him the freedom to run the defensive. Granted, it may be tough for you to follow since the sides of the ball have been reversed in this case, but now the head coach (Muschamp) is a defensive guy who’s handed the reins of the offense to an accomplished offensive mind (Weis). Spurrier didn’t meddle in Stoops’ defense. Muschamp won’t meddle in Weiss’ offense. Here’s the point: this arrangement is hardly unprecedented and it has worked before.

Spokesman for the SEC East

January 4th, 2011
9:41 am

Ron Franklin, certainly it is possible pervert, but Brady was minimal at best when he was the QB of Michigan. Brantley did set a lot of records in HS and was the Gatoraid Player of the year so evidently the Physical talent is there. We will see prancy pants.

Gator Mike

January 4th, 2011
9:42 am

All of the UF haters continue to be entertaining. Will Muschamp appears to much smarter and more rational than most of his UGA buddies give him credit for. A key starting point for Muschamp is that he openly recognizes his that he needs a strong and experienced offensive coordinator. Is Weiss the right guy? I do not know, but time will tell how it works out. Muschamp is shrewd and both he and Weiss are smart guys; therefore, it should work out. UF will be in the SEC East hunt next year with a DAWG at the Gator helm which does not bothere me in the least as long as he wins. After all, Vince Dooley is and Auburn Grad.
It is going to be interesting.
Go Gators!

Spokesman for the SEC East

January 4th, 2011
9:42 am

Huh?

Yea and so is cute little Aaron.

The rest of us

January 4th, 2011
9:42 am

Isn’t being the “Spokesman” for the SEC East this year like being the skinniest kid at fat camp?

Huh?

January 4th, 2011
9:42 am

@CF Gator

I understand offense and defense you tool. What you fail to grasp is that these two clowns aren’t Spurrier & Stoops.

Spokesman for the SEC East

January 4th, 2011
9:43 am

Gator Mike, they have to put down the Gators since they lost to the 2nd and 5th best teams from the state of Florida.

Worm

January 4th, 2011
9:44 am

Only thing about Charlie,I’m not sure they make jean shorts that big!

@ Wally Butts

January 4th, 2011
9:44 am

Bringing Weiss to UF for “Muschamp” was a “great” move. It’s called surrounding yourself with “quality and qualified people”. Something CMR has no clue on doing. More of the same for us at UGA.

Spokesman for the SEC East

January 4th, 2011
9:44 am

Huh?, they might not be Spurrier and Stoops, but they aren’t Choke Grantham and Bobo the Clown either.

Huh?

January 4th, 2011
9:44 am

Nobody needs to “put down the Gators”. Urban Meyer already did a helluva good job of that.

Spokesman for the SEC East

January 4th, 2011
9:45 am

Worm, he will probably wear Jawja fat boy overalls.

atlvol55

January 4th, 2011
9:46 am

In my opinion, the Weiss hire is great for the other SEC schools. I may be wrong (certaintly wouldn’t be the first), but I think Weiss could be a disaster at Florida.

Florida’s success has come from running a wide open offenses getting guys open in space. Weiss is going to try and install a pro style offense with players more suited for the spread. I personally like the pro style and many programs have been successful with it; Ohio State, Alabama, UGA, TN, USC…

However, the spread is the new wave in College Football. Even the pros are migrating more to the spread. Just look at guys like Brady and Manning. They spend most of the game in the shotgun throwing the ball. Running backs are getting less and less use.

Being a huge Eric Berry fan, I watch the Cheifs a lot this year. Weiss had no idea how to use Dexter McCluster who in my opinion is one of the most dynamic players I have seen in the SEC in years. Weiss doesn’t know how to use guys like that..

Maybe this is just wishful thinking on my part; but I think Weiss and Florida just aren’t going to mix. It was similar to win Monte Kiffen was hired. Kiffen has no idea how to stop spread and different college offenses. The only times are defense was effective was against Alabama and UGA last year. Two pro style offenses.

Go Vols

Huh?

January 4th, 2011
9:46 am

Tennessee is the most likely candidate to rise first from the ashes of what was once the SEC East.

kindergarten math

January 4th, 2011
9:50 am

In point # 5, if it was your partner’s original suggestion, which you adopted, wouldn’t that make it 2 men’s opinions?

Spokesman for the SEC East

January 4th, 2011
9:51 am

Huh?, finally your true colors. Not with the idiot you have coaching. And then this nugget; some defensive lineman will break your beanpole Qb;s skinny azz.

Grantham > Weis

January 4th, 2011
9:56 am

Weis’s schemes didn’t work in the college game at ND—too intricate and he has a very limited time to teach. Grantham’s D will shut down fla’s offense next year—mark it down.

SavDawg

January 4th, 2011
9:56 am

Send Bobo to Clemson and we’ll take “The Fridge”.

The rest of us

January 4th, 2011
9:58 am

Jared is the spokesman for Subway, Kirstie Alley is the spokesman for Jenny Craig and now a mouth breathing Gator is the spokesman for the SEC East. Perfect! Work ‘em, you Silly Gator!

CF Gator

January 4th, 2011
9:58 am

@ Huh? – It’s the similar ARRANGEMENT that I’m talking about, azz clown. You have no idea whether this is Spurrier and Stoops.

T3

January 4th, 2011
9:59 am

I was SHOCKED by the Edsell hire at MD.

If MD Alum & Under-Armour Chariman, Kevin Plank REALLY wanted to have Leach at MD, then why did MD let Friedgen go now, with a year left on his contract?

Why not keep Friedgen one more year until next year, when Leach would likely be done with his TexTech lawsuit?

The Edsell hire has ABSOLUTELY NO LOGIC behind it.

As for Friedgen to be OC at Clemson?? LOL
Friedgen has “forgotten” more about college football than Dabo will EVER know. I dont see Fridge going to work for Dabo, when there are probably lots of other schools that would love to have Fridge,
like Pitt.

How can Michigan keep RichRod?
He’s single-handedly destroyed the program, in a very short time?

Lowcountry Bulldawg

January 4th, 2011
10:01 am

Whoever thinks Weiss to UF is a bad move knows zero about football. Look at what he has done in KC! Look how he took ND offense out of the dark ages. The guy know’s his X’s and O’s. Muschamp is putting together the staff in Gainesville that UGA could have assembled if the McGarity had the stones to pull the plug. Now UGA is going to go another decade w/o beating UF.

404

January 4th, 2011
10:02 am

Its a well known fact Ralph Freigen despises UGA.

No chance in Hell he ever ends up in Athens.

Down Dawg

January 4th, 2011
10:03 am

Give Florida credit for being bold in their thinking. We keep rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic. No wonder we can’t seem to catch up.

GT

January 4th, 2011
10:06 am

Weis has worked as an assistant coach most of his life. I think he is more talk less walk than Tony’s description. New England’s offense seems to be doing very well without him, Carolina may have the worse quarterback in football, a Weis product. The man better show he is employable, the rep he got in South Bends leads one to believe he is a pain.

Tuberville showed in one season there is no magic in Leach. What is this love affair Tony has with this bum. Randy Edsall is a PR improvement to Ralph Friedgen, another assistant coach lifer. Watch the assistants that will show up under a Edsall compared to Friedgen. Friedgen will end up in Clemson. Great back office coach, but I think he is no charmer to the alumni.

Mike Leach is a bum, the dust up with James is just the straw that broke the camels back. The way Leach handled this “dust up” is classless. Just what the world needs, one more classless character associated with college or pro football. Between the players and coaches at Georgia, the old choke sign, Tony has loss direction. Kids dont’ need to be around bums even the ones that fool us, by being politically correct.

Harbaugh may be Coach K of football. He has discovered what more and more college coaches are going to discover. You can’t coach stupid people as well as you can smart ones. I think Harbaugh stays where he is. Who knew these kind of people could play football until a coach like Harbargh gave them a chance.

Dick the Weasel

January 4th, 2011
10:08 am

Maryland is a lateral move for Edsall. Surprised he’d make it, considering he built UConn from bailing wire and duct tape.

Spokesman for the SEC East

January 4th, 2011
10:13 am

Grantham > Weis, Grantham couldn’t shut down Florida’s worst offense in 20 years. Grantham will choke again. By the way is that your new monniker Patrick?

joe

January 4th, 2011
10:14 am

“spokesman” is just another lame word for loud-mouth, know it all, blinders on, jort wearin, mullet head, trailer park, frog giggin, toad licker, red neck riviera, backwoods hack who expects an NC out of gainesville every year…ain’t gonna happen anytime soon…idiot.

BAMA dude

January 4th, 2011
10:14 am

Morning everyone. Still can’t figure out what motivates Charlie to leave KC for Florida. I’m sure he’ll do a great job down there, but he certainly seems better suited for the NFL to me. And I don’t know what UM will do with RichRod. My money’s on Jim retracing Bill Walsh’s footsteps and moving a half hour north to San Fran.