Ohio State’s players not stupid, but they are selfish

Hope everybody had a great Christmas! So what did we miss while we were gone spreading the Holiday cheer? Where in the world do you start?

1. Ohio State’s players aren’t stupid, but they are selfish: So a bunch of  Ohio State players, including quarterback Terrelle Pryor, will miss the first five games of the 2011 season because they sold and exchanged stuff for money and services. That’s a pretty stiff penalty and it’s likely a bunch of those guys will just turn pro and never serve the suspension. But please spare me the hand wringing and the gnashing of teeth about how the system is unfair. Two points:

**–It is an unfair system, yadda, yadda, yadda: We know that. We have always known that. There is a reasonable argument to be made that athletes should be able to generate some kind of income based on what they do and the value they provide to the school. But you don’t get to break the rule and THEN make the argument. Then all you’re doing is trying to rationalize behavior that has hurt the team to cover your own butt. Sometimes in life you have to be selfish. But admit that you did it for selfish reasons. Admit that you wanted the money or needed the money or felt you DESERVED the money. Then accept the consequences and move on.

**–I do not want to hear another adult say that the kids didn’t know the rules. Gene Smith is the athletics director at Ohio State. I have great deal respect for him and consider him to be a friend. But I can’t listen to another adult attribute rules breaking to a lack of knowledge of the rules.

Again, there is a good argument to be made about the validity and the fairness of the rule but here’s the deal. My mother just turned 78 years old and she knows a player can’t sell a jersey why he’s still in school. If you let these guys play in the Sugar Bowl because you don’t want to hurt a multi-million dollar game at this late date, then just say so. If the players thought the rule was stupid and felt they deserved something more because of their status, then just say so. But don’t plead ignorance. It just doesn’t fly any more.

 2. Will Georgia Tech run out of bodies against Air Force? Here is another reason why I could not be a coach. Georgia Tech was already short-handed on defense for today’s Independence Bowl with Air Force. Two starters and a reserve on defense were suspended last week for academic reasons. Now comes word that three more defensive players will have to sit out the first half of the game for missing curfew Friday night. Now Shreveport is a friendly town. My CBS buddy Tim Brando could live anywhere and he chose Shreveport as the place to raise his family. It’s a great place. But guys. You miss curfew in Shreveport? Seriously?

3. Is Caleb King destined to become another Patrick Pass? We learn today from Tim Tucker that Georgia running back Caleb King will miss Friday’s Liberty Bowl because he missed five “academic appointments.” I assume that is going to class or study hall. This marks the third game this season that King has missed on suspension. So now Georgia has a running back of modest (at best) ability, who can’t be bothered to do the academic side of his commitment after being suspended once already this season. There have been a lot of great running backs to come through Georgia. There have also been a bunch of running backs  who arrived in Athens with excessive hype and very average hearts. Caleb King is starting to look like the latter.

4. The coaching carousel sure did get quiet:  With much fanfare Florida hired Will Muschamp as its head coach on Dec. 4. Speculation immediately began that Muschamp would tap Alabama defensive coordinator Kirby Smart, his friend and also a former Georgia player, as his new DC. Then it got quiet and it looks like we won’t know anything until after the Jan. 1 bowls. Understand that everybody in the business is waiting for Muschamp to make his move. Then the ripple effect will start through the rest of the coaching fraternity. I wonder if Florida has a rule about the number of Georgia graduates the Gators can have on their staff?

5. Best rumor of the Holiday season: Jim Tressel to leave Ohio State: Something called ChicagoNow.com reported that Jim Tressel would be leaving as Ohio State’s coach after the Sugar Bowl game with Arkansas on Jan. 4. The website said that the Buckeyes recruits had been told that Tressel was leaving and that they should look elsewhere. Ohio State had to respond to knock down the rumors. Two things:

**–If the head coach at a place like Ohio State is going to leave suddenly, the recruits will be the LAST people to know because the school wants to try and hold the class together.

**–Could it possibly be that opposing recruiters were telling players that Tressel was going to leave hoping that somebody would pick up a rumor with no factual basis but run it anyway? Mission accomplished I guess.

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223 comments Add your comment

MikeP

December 27th, 2010
9:20 pm

tikga
December 27th, 2010
4:02 pm
“The FBI investigation will bring down Lowder but it also may bring down the Auburn program as well.”

What investigation is that? You sound like some second grader on a playground “The FBI will get you!!!”

The FBI cares not one whit about NCAA policy. The FBI has it’s own responsibilities, which is investigating crimes. If every player in the USA sells his jersey to an agent the FBI could not care less.

Just sayin

December 27th, 2010
9:48 pm

Tide Rising- seems I remember M.C. was suspended for a year by Tres. Then M.C. had his scholarship rescinded and was dismissed by the university. His arrest came more than 2 years after he played his last down of football for OSU. Maybe that is why it was not investigated. You Bama fans sound so pathetic playing the victim. The NCAA is hard on Bama and the SEC in general because YOU CHEAT! IN EVERY SPORT! What other conf. Is anywhere close?

surfdawg

December 27th, 2010
9:57 pm

JUICE SOURCER My response to pg.3 ,1:33 post You sir are the idiot, and Hitler, pleeeaassse. By the way, how much longer left on your probation?

The Ole Ball Coach

December 27th, 2010
10:46 pm

http://www.sportsbybrooks.com/tag/edward_rife

Check this link shows the NCAA needs to actually do some investigation work on
The OSU

Mike

December 27th, 2010
11:44 pm

Since the NCAA has sanctioned buying players with Cam Newton, what can fans do to protest the lack of these so-called student athletes? All the suspentions are just more examples of the entitlement issues. Should we boycott all the products & services that advertise on the various media until we have true students playing the game?

MikeP

December 28th, 2010
12:02 am

Quote: “Since the NCAA has sanctioned buying players with Cam Newton, what can fans do to protest the lack of these so-called student athletes?”

Got a link? Everything I’ve read says no money changed hands in the Cam Newton situation. It’s customary when something is bought, money changes hands.

NCAA investigators looked for five months and didn’t find any indication that anybody in the Newton family received anything extra. If you know more than they do, please inform them. If not, admit you’re wrong and get on with your life.

JASon

December 28th, 2010
12:05 am

“There is a reasonable argument to be made that athletes should be able to generate some kind of income”

This is the dumbest thing I have ever heard. Is it not enough that we are giving these college athletes a free ride for four years? Meanwhile tuition is criminally high for everyone else.

bitter JUST SAYING

December 28th, 2010
12:29 am

What a year!!!!!!!!!!! 1st, ive learned that rebuilding a chruch with boster money and 50 million paycheck for a national champ game go hand in hand, JUST SAYING!!!
2nd, georgia is on track to win 10 games next year with or without crowell !!!!!!!
3rd, a loss to boise and south car at the beginning of next year will sink a 10 win season and send the entire coaching staff packing. SERIOUSLY just saying!!!!!
PS if caoch johnson was not color blind he would look no futher that 4A champ chattahooooocha QB who happens to run 4.5 and sorry for him he is dridded white skin, coach johnson look at his stats 30 TD’s, only 2 inter, 1500 yards rushing, 2500 passing, come on MAN BOOBS stop being stupid this kid is perfect for ga tech offence, (dumb as—) well enough said, JUST SAYING

tt44

December 28th, 2010
1:36 am

Tony…this is the time with the NCAA…that it should dissolve! Totally two faced to allow these fellas to participate in the next game..period…how disappointing to me as a fan to see such a double standard? AJ green..case and point! Whomever has made this mud in on face decsion should be dismissed..(the kids didnt know the rules…come on man! Cam newton didnt know daddy was shoping him around..come on man! Utterly double standard….NCAA is a joke now.

BoWeevil

December 28th, 2010
3:44 am

So, now, how right have I been about Caleb Darnell King with my points about him all last season and all this season ?

Moonpie

December 28th, 2010
7:03 am

Air Force?

Are u kidding me? Looks like the ACC-Almost Collegiate Conference takes another hit!

Which programe is worse? Tech Football or Tech Basketball?

Integrity

December 28th, 2010
7:12 am

Here again, there is absolutely no consistency coming from the NCAA in allowing these players to participate in the upcoming bowl game. There is no rhyme nor reason as to the decisions which are being handed down from this organization, and it is swiftly degrading the integrity of the game. Has the time come for a new College Football Association???

George G.

December 28th, 2010
7:21 am

Tony – you should do one of these columns… http://cfn.scout.com/2/1034341.html

Get Real

December 28th, 2010
7:50 am

MikeP,

Give it up. You can pretend that Cam Newton is clean all you want, but everybody knows better. Just take your wins and wait for the asterisks. This is the only way that a school like Auburn has a shot at a National Title. Pat Dye knows it. You’ll find out… Eventually.

Helmand Dawg

December 28th, 2010
8:25 am

Tony, This argument is silly and falls apart under the weight of logic. First, not every school’s athletic budget is flush with cash. The SEC and the Big 10 schools could certainly pay their kids something but what about Marshall or Troy? Second, how do you determine a kid’s worth to the school? Are you going to pay him a pct of the gate or merchandise sales? If you do you’ve just introduced agents into the system and possibly these parasites will start getting them in high school. Third, the minute start paying the starting QB money you had better pay the something to women’s field hockey team or you will find yourself in court in an ugly discrimination suit not to mention title IX issues. Why isn’t a quality education enough? If you really want to clean up college football do away with scholarships and hold open tryouts on the first day of school. Until then you’re stuck being a little bit pregnant.

MikeP

December 28th, 2010
10:14 am

bitter JUST SAYING
December 28th, 2010
12:29 am
“What a year!!!!!!!!!!! 1st, ive learned that rebuilding a chruch with boster money and 50 million paycheck for a national champ game go hand in hand, JUST SAYING!!!”

Do a little research. According to the Newnan, Georgia City Council meeting minutes, Cecil Newton had the necessary financing to complete the church repairs in July, 2009. In case you don’t have a calendar, that was six months BEFORE Cam Newton signed with Auburn.

Auburn and Cam Newton are clean in this one. The only people that think they know more than the NCAA investigators are bammer and UGA fans.You guys need to get over the beatdowns and find a life.

superrbs

December 28th, 2010
2:27 pm

we would beat Ark. without those 5 players they have a michigan Q.B. you ll see about midnight on the 4th,

Snoop Dawg

December 28th, 2010
5:25 pm

Folks, this has been the worst year in the long, fabled history of UGA Football.
All those arrests and gangsta behavior on the field and on the sidelines are a big embarassment. I hope the next coach bans the Rastaman dreadlock look… We are extremely lucky to not have a losing season, and I will be surprised if we do not wind up losing to Central Florida. Markt Wrecked and Company are trending toward a disastrous recruiting year. The team routinely ran out of gas at the beginning of the fourth quarter. The play calling was downright atrocious. Every aspect of UGA football is in disarray and depression. Everyone with any chance of getting drafted in the NFL has already packed his bags to get out of town. Only two people are enjoying: Mark Wrecked and the Water Girrrrl because they are racking up about $3 million every year plus bennies until he regents develop the fortitude to fire them. There doesn’t seem to be any way out of the death spiral.

Depressing…

IRISH DAWG

December 28th, 2010
9:47 pm

THE NCAA IS STUPID,TO THINK CAM NEWTON DID NOT KNOW. HIS FATHER WAS TRYING TO SELL HIS SON TO MISS ST. CECIL NEWTON RUN HIS SON’S LIFE. CAM NEWTON’S FAMILY ALL KNEW IT.

MikeP

December 29th, 2010
12:04 am

IRISH DAWG
December 28th, 2010
9:47 pm
“THE NCAA IS STUPID,TO THINK CAM NEWTON DID NOT KNOW. HIS FATHER WAS TRYING TO SELL HIS SON TO MISS ST. CECIL NEWTON RUN HIS SON’S LIFE. CAM NEWTON’S FAMILY ALL KNEW IT.’

What a hoot! If you know more than a team of investigators knew after five months of work, all you have to do is prove it, Irish Dog.

Explain This Irish Dawg

December 29th, 2010
4:39 pm

“Put simply, had Cam Newton’s father or a third party actually received money or benefits for his recruitment, Cam Newton would have been declared ineligible regardless of his lack of knowledge,” the NCAA said.

wballs1977

December 30th, 2010
8:58 am

lame lame lame re: Newton. (yes, you Irish Dawg and Get foReal). why do you people act like it would be such a difficult feat to prove cam and his family were knowledgable about this whole thing? if everyone knew about Newton Sr’s actions during 2010 (evidently, everyone else outside of Auburn KNOWS that he knew) why can’t anyone prove it after 3 months? and if Newton really “shopped” his son around, why wasn’t there money exchanged? how do we know what the extent of Newton Sr’s conversations with the shady college “agent” was?

Get Real – care to elaborate more on “a school like Auburn”?

ivebeenworkingontheRR

December 31st, 2010
5:38 pm

Some much for Integrity of The Game. If OSU’ scoach had any sense of decency, he would suspend them for the game as well. I mean really what difference will it make, the SEC seems to always make OSU an embarrassing game to watch. As much as I have no respect for BP @ Arkansas, Jim Tressel could not have a better match as far as character. Very sad state of affairs for college football.