Are the Gators rolling the dice with Muschamp?

Even when the regular season is over, it ain’t over. So what did we learn, and what do we still want to know?:

1. Are the Gators rolling the dice with Muschamp? Urban Meyer announced his “retirement” last Wednesday after six years as the head coach at Florida. In the next 48 hours everybody from Bob Stoops, to Jon Gruden (there is that name again), to Chris Peterson, to Dan Mullen to Chip Kelly was considered to be the  front runner for one of the top five jobs in college football. Then suddenly, at 8:28 p.m. on Saturday (note the time) Florida announces that it had hired Texas defensive coordinator Will Muschamp as its next head coach. The press conference will be Tuesday. Some consider it a risk by athletics director Jeremy Foley, who got burned the last time he hired an assistant (Ron Zook). But those who know Muschamp know that he’s been groomed for this since he was a player at Georgia for Ray Goff. Muschamp has worked at LSU (for Nick Saban), at Auburn (for Tommy Tuberville), and Texas (for Mack Brown). He is ready.

2. Florida will win the SEC East in 2011: How ready is Muschamp? Well, here’s the first prediction for the 2011 season: Florida will win the SEC East championship. The problem at Florida last season was not talent. It was a lack of focus and a lack of leadership. The team was not focused because too many leaders had left and there was never a coherent offensive strategy. Muschamp can fix the leadership issue and if he hires a top-flight offensive coordinator the other problem can be fixed as well. Media reports say Muschamp is looking at Major Applewhite, an offensive assistant at Texas. My choice would be Dana Holgerson of Oklahoma State (who is in the running for the head coaching  job at Pitt.)

3. I’m disappointed in the timing of Florida’s announcement: This is strictly an opinion, but I wish Florida had waited until after the Heisman Trophy presentation to announce its new coach. The official press release came just minutes before Auburn’s Cameron Newton was handed the hardware in New York. The announcement opens Florida up to charges that it was trying to step on the moment of a player from another SEC school. And with Newton’s background at Florida, which includes concerns that academic information about his time at the school was leaked to the media, it is something that simply should have been avoided. I was informed this morning by Florida officials that they had every intention of waiting until after the Heisman Trophy presentation but that once the news leaked out through the social media the school felt it had no choice but to release the information.

4. What does the hiring of Al Golden tell us about the Miami job? First of all, I think Golden is a great hire. Remember that it wasn’t long ago that Temple considered dropping football. The school basically got booted out of the Big East. Golden took over and he took the Owls to a bowl in 2009 and this season went 8-4 (which included a win over Fiesta Bowl bound UConn). But it also tells you that Miami’s job is not one where the school can go out and command the services of a Tier One proven head coach. Jon Gruden wasn’t coming. Neither was a successful head coach at the BCS level. Miami is a tough job because if you don’t win and win big, the people just don’t come. Again, I think Golden is a super coach. He has been named as a possible replacement for Joe Paterno at Penn State. He will win at Miami. I just think Mike Leach would have been a more inspired hire.

5. If he goes to Vandy, how will Gus Malzahn handle the BCS championship? It looks like Vanderbilt is Gus Malzhan’s job to turn down. So what does the Auburn offensive coordinator do if he accepts, which could happen as early as today (Monday)? I certainly believe he would coach Cameron Newton one last time in the BCS championship game with Oregon on Jan. 10. But I’ve seen other coordinators try to get ready for a BCS title game while attempting to build a staff and organize a program at another place. Mark Richt did it at Florida State after he took the Georgia job in 2000. Richt admits now that it was very difficult. The only person I have seen pull it off really well was Bo Pelini, who was the LSU defensive coordinator for the 2007 BCS championship game while organizing his new program at Nebraska.

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697 comments Add your comment

TDone

December 13th, 2010
7:18 am

It’s wishful thinking for the Muttlanders to be Florida will be down with the hiring of Muschamp.

ATLCold

December 13th, 2010
7:18 am

I like UF’s hire. Was surprised but I think CWM can collect a good group of coaches around him. He is intense.
Too early to tell who will win the SEC East in 2011, my opinion.
Quit defending Cam, the truth shall set you free.
Miami could have gotten a higher profile name but, remember, nobody know who Jim Tressle was before he got to OSU. You never know.
Why would he stay and coach Cam. Basically their offense has been give the ball to Cam and throw or run. I could coach Cam.

Best of College Park

December 13th, 2010
7:21 am

rocksteadyfreddie

December 13th, 2010
7:22 am

Mullen did it in 08.

17 of 20

December 13th, 2010
7:24 am

I think it is a great hire for the Gators, I hope he get’s Kirby Smart to run the defense.

Lilburn Dawg

December 13th, 2010
7:26 am

Is there any more information or rumor out there about Muschamp wanting to hire Kirby Smart and take him to Florida? If he does that, what are the chances of our Dawgs ever beating Florida again??

One Play away Ray

December 13th, 2010
7:27 am

Muschamp didn’t look real good this year. How do you lose that many games with more talent than anyone else on your schedule?

Jake

December 13th, 2010
7:29 am

Gators did not put this off. They were very speedy with this.

How Sad Tony

December 13th, 2010
7:29 am

A brand new coach at Florida and yet they are predicted to win the east. If that isn’t an indictment on Mark Richt and his program then I don’t know what is.

Ed

December 13th, 2010
7:31 am

The speed and the timing of the hire certainly raises the question…

Fig Newton

December 13th, 2010
7:31 am

Muschamp breaks the ‘ Coach in Waiting ‘ contract,

then jumps from a sorry 5-7 team to a mediocre 7-5 team.

MURPHY

December 13th, 2010
7:33 am

Being a Dawg Fan I wish Muschamp all the best. With that said I do not see him ready to be a Head Coach in the SEC. I believe down the road he will be successfull but it will take 3-4 years and it will be interesting to see if the Gator Nation will be patient with him.As a Dawgs fan I did breathe a big sigh of relief that Mullen wasnt the man.Good luck to the Gator Nation and it will be a good time in Jacksonville next year. A Dawg leading the Gators!

Jean Shorts Torture

December 13th, 2010
7:35 am

Tony, you are DEAD WRONG!!! Miami fans don’t show up even when they’re winning big.

I hope you’re right on everything else though.

Reality Stinks

December 13th, 2010
7:36 am

Tony

Not a FL fan by no means but

Who cares if FL made there annoucement during Sham Newtons heisman

This crap him and his father created is a joke to college football anyway

Why not Mullen?

December 13th, 2010
7:37 am

MURPHY

December 13th, 2010
7:40 am

Someone tell Mullen to sit tight. If Richt leaves next year,Im sure we will offer him that position.

Dawgbreath

December 13th, 2010
7:40 am

Lordy, Spurrier will eat Muschamp for lunch (and everyone else) with that cast he has coming back. No way Muschamp installs new defense and new offense and wins the east. Ask UGA or UT for that matter.

MURPHY

December 13th, 2010
7:43 am

Dawgbreath,

I dont know about all the rest of the Dawg nation but Im in no way concerned that the Gators hired Muchamp.What I mean is: Not intimidated one bit.The series might begin to swing back to the Dawgs here shortly.Glad it wasnt Mullen!

Big Al

December 13th, 2010
7:43 am

Wow new coach at Flordia and already endorsement from TB that they win the East. DAWG fans must be wondering what passed them by—a chance to be better than average that is what.

Once again UGA lags and excuses are made

December 13th, 2010
7:45 am

So comical that some UGA fans now all of a sudden thinks this is a bad hire. But if UGA had hire this guy it would have been the greatist hire in college football. Now the Richt apologisst are out in droves with excuses. Comical I say ! I guess it will once again will have to be proven nexy year that this program is spiraling under CMR. Just wait and see folks !

59bulldawg

December 13th, 2010
7:46 am

For the new Florida offensive coordinator I would like to strongly suggest his old buddy and former teammate Mike Bobo. Wink! Wink!

Ryno

December 13th, 2010
7:46 am

Florida easily could win the East this season. The D could be formidable if all the freshmen stay, and there’s no guarantee they will. That said, I’m glad Foley couldn’t sway or didn’t try to sway Mullen, Malzahn, or Petersen.
I guess this time next year the Dogs will have to call Kirby Smart home. I don’t think Muschamp would leave UF after a year.

MURPHY

December 13th, 2010
7:48 am

Once again Uga,

Sorry,this is one Dawg fan that did not want Muschamp or Smart has head coach in Athens.Neither are ready to be a SEC Head Coach. Florida Fans will see this quickly. I want Mullen in Athens if Richt leaves.

59bulldawg

December 13th, 2010
7:48 am

Murphy . . . Amen! . . . to that comment about Mullen! Sit tight coach.

MURPHY

December 13th, 2010
7:49 am

Florida will regret not hiring Mullen back.

Bull Gator

December 13th, 2010
7:51 am

Should have hired Mullen! Welcome back 1980’s style Gators! The beginning of the end for championship seasons!

Hogtown

December 13th, 2010
7:52 am

TB, I’m not saying there weren’t issues on defense, but the main problems at Florida this year were the offensive line and the offensive game plan / play calling. A top-flight offensive coordinator is definitely needed to replace Addazio, but there needs to be some talent/experience to plug the holes on the O line.

SimpleDawg

December 13th, 2010
7:52 am

We certainly hope they’re taking a BIG chance hiring Muschamp.

The announcement timing was all part of the plan.

beakerdawg

December 13th, 2010
7:53 am

why do you constantly defend a shady player, parent, university and governing body against the very sacred college football institution that you claim to hold so dear to your heart? It doesn’t take a GED to figure this out…

Old Gold

December 13th, 2010
7:53 am

Bet probation is coming up for the Gators! Meyer didn’t want to fall on his sword!

SOS Dawg

December 13th, 2010
7:53 am

Florida and Muschamp will bounce back a lot faster than these clowns in Athens. UGA will be hard pressed to win 7 games next year. Mark it down ! UGA needs Mullen Now !

59bulldawg

December 13th, 2010
7:55 am

2012 Georgia-Florida game could be very interesting with a former Dawg leading the Gators and a former Gator possibly leading the Dawgs!

Hogtown

December 13th, 2010
7:55 am

Mullen was my preferred choice as well. Hopefully Foley doesn’t make us suffer another Zook era.

Wyltk

December 13th, 2010
7:56 am

If Florida wins the East next year with another 1st year coach, and a promoted coordinator at that, then Richt needs to go. He has similar burn-out issues to Meyer going on and just doesn’t have the fire any more, something Muschamp will never be accused of. It’s not something that you just flip the switch and turn back on, as much as Richt is telling himself he can do. Georgia will likely be a better team next year but with 8-4ish type results, it will be time to cut the cord with Richt.

59bulldawg

December 13th, 2010
7:58 am

How much would the buyout be next year if Richt is fired?

winterDawg

December 13th, 2010
8:00 am

I also breathed a sigh of relief when they didn’t get Mullen.

AU WDE

December 13th, 2010
8:00 am

I like Muschamp a lot, but I’m not sure he was the right guy for the job. After all he was the D Coordinator for a losing team this year. Good luck to you Will and appreciate your time with AU.

Gay ness ville stinks!

December 13th, 2010
8:00 am

The sad truth is UF could hire Larry the Cable Guy to coach the team and they would still beat UGA. Our coach is soft and our team reflects that. He has niether the drive or the smarts to get it done against UF.

RattlerMan

December 13th, 2010
8:01 am

I think that UF pulled a rabbit out of the hat with this hire. I’m an Alabama fan and I think that this hire puts UF right back where they were. He will recruit and recruit and recruit and their defense will be great.

icallbs

December 13th, 2010
8:01 am

I’m really disappointed FL did not buy 90 minute worth of air time to do a complete bio of Muschamp that ran side by side with the sportswriters/ESPN sponsored Heisman entertainment award. Quack, quack.

Jerry

December 13th, 2010
8:04 am

Yeah Tony, we know, you write every year that the Gators will win the East, and Alabama will win the West.

You were dead wrong this year, and you’ll be dead wrong next season too.

Dooley the Vol

December 13th, 2010
8:05 am

Muschamp had to go while he had some value, UT had 4-5 stars all over and the D was weak. Jury is out on this hire.
Malzahn may tell more about the situation at AU. get out before the #^%$ starts flying.

Timing

December 13th, 2010
8:09 am

I can just about guarantee the Gators knew exactly what they were doing on that press release timing Sat night.I’m no Gator fan! But I would like to say,THANK YOU! Basically, I took it as telling Cam and AU to go pound sand.So,Thanks again from MANY of your brothers in the SEC.

Godzilla's Cuz

December 13th, 2010
8:11 am

No matter who UF hired, Dawgs will never give them credit………….until they kick the Dawgs arses again the last Saturday in October, 2011.

Arch Dawg

December 13th, 2010
8:14 am

Why would Mullen leave Starkville where he is king of the castle to go to UGA, especially after he turned Florida down?

SEC_Analyst

December 13th, 2010
8:14 am

Mullen was such an obvious choice for Florida that one has to wonder what might have led them to hire Muschamp instead. The Gators appear to be seeking a clean break from a coaching staff that led them to their most successful era in Florida football history. I can’t wait for someone to write a book explaining everything that led up to this unusual season in the SEC.

JB

December 13th, 2010
8:16 am

Complete roll of the dice. That’s just the facts.

HBTD!!!

Look4UFin2012

December 13th, 2010
8:19 am

The Gators looked lost this year.Now they have a hungry young Coach and a ton of hungry talent.They will lose a few games next year,But look out for this bunch in 2012.imo

Gator Mike

December 13th, 2010
8:19 am

Welcome Coach Muschamp. Since he is an UGA guy at heart, the UF-UGA rivalry should get very interesting if he is successful. If he works out wel for UF, this may the potential of being a scenario of the same type when an Auburn boy (Vince Dooley) became an UGA legend, but it is way too early to tell. All the best to CWM.
On another note, I am disturbed that Meyer’s health problem persists. The SEC is tough, and this shows the potential health problems associated with being a coach in t he SEC.
Merry Christmas to all!
Go Gators!

Alphare

December 13th, 2010
8:19 am

Somehow I feel TN will win the east next season. Usually 2nd or 3rd year coaches have a big splash.

ratherBgambling

December 13th, 2010
8:20 am

Mullen was aloof and not a great recruiter at UF and by all reports wasn’t interested. The Muschamp hire is very similar to when Oklahoma hired Stoops.

bull-gator

December 13th, 2010
8:20 am

Would have preferred head coaching experience with offensive credentials. However, a head coach is only as good as his assistants AND players. Would like to see Kerwin Bell the OC. A former All SEC QB at UF and current head coach at JU. Also, for what it’s worth, he coached Brantley in high school. Kirby Smart would be a great steal, but his next stop is probably as a head coach.

MURPHY

December 13th, 2010
8:22 am

Arch Dawg,

Mullen didnt turn down UF. Foley didnt offer him the job-Mistake made!

MURPHY

December 13th, 2010
8:24 am

Alphare,

I see UT or Carolina winning the East next year.Both will return a ton of players with alot of talent.

AJC Reader

December 13th, 2010
8:24 am

Come on Tony. Why would expect the University of Florida to start showing class now? They leaked the academic information to the New York Times and they wanted to upstage the Cam Newton show. They beat their chest every chance they get, even after a 7-5 season in which their coach quits.

Gater Tater

December 13th, 2010
8:25 am

Here is a new year wish..sorry Will but as a dawg fan I hope you turn out to be Florida’s version of Ray Goff.. GOOOOOOOOOO DAAAAAAWGS

Starring Kam Fong as Chin Ho

December 13th, 2010
8:25 am

Fla is not rolling the dice any more than Ga was when they hired Richt. That has worked out pretty well for Ga. The expectations are higher in Gainesville than they were (are?) in Athens though.

MURPHY

December 13th, 2010
8:25 am

bull-gator,

Kerwin back to UF.Bell’s ego wont allow that.He wants to be a head coach not a coordinator.He wanted the Vandy job.

ARdawg

December 13th, 2010
8:26 am

Tony Barnhart is a Gomer

Already with the predictions Barnhart? Florida winning the East in 2011? You really put yourself out there on that one didn’t you? You have about as much insight in the the winner of the East in 2011 as you do 2011 BSC championship game. None

Are we a bit sensitive Tony? Why the comment about the timing of UF’s announcement? Was the NY Athletic Club hindered in it’s presentation to Cam? Just you of your story on the non-story BS. Find where Cecil Newton’s credibility is and that is where you can find yours

Defenderdawg

December 13th, 2010
8:27 am

Sounds like your trying to stand up for a Heisman presentation that will end up back with the Heisman committee anyway when the dust settles. Would rather hear about UF hiring a former Dawg than a NCAA violator getting a trophy! All comes to fruition in the end because the SEC isnt going to risk millions to have him popped now. They will wait til after BCS game, millions are spread thru institutions and then, OH GOODNESS….WE DIDNT KNOW THIS! Bullcrap, SEC is as dirty!

feigned outrage

December 13th, 2010
8:28 am

Out of curiousity, what minority candidate did UF interview for their head coaching job?

Always amuzed at Humpers

December 13th, 2010
8:29 am

I am amazed when UGA fans were hoping that Muschamp would replace Richt and now he isnt ready for a head coaching job. One more thing he going back to Athens, he lived in Gainesville twice as long as he did in Athens. He aint goin home, he is already home.

voice of reason

December 13th, 2010
8:29 am

I don’t buy this Muschamp was our only target and the only one we offered the job too business that Foley is trying to sell. Really? You didn’t do your due diligence and call to see Harbaugh’s interst in the job? The man who took Stanford to a 13-1 season, orange bowl berth, and currently has the 6th ranked recruiting class. Even the legendary Bill Walsh couldn’t work that kind of magic at Stanford. And were supposed to believe that Foley didn’t call Harbaugh to gauge his interest?

I think Foley called several high profile coaches and was rebuffed and Muschamp was the backup plan if all else failed. If he didn’t call Harbaugh then he is an idiot. Gator fans are in denial if they believe that Muschamp was the #1 target. I’m not buying that BS.

Like some others have said Muschamp may turn out to be a pretty good head coach but at the moment he scares me a lot less than a proven guy like Harbaugh, Peterson, or even Petrino. Florida brags that he can really recruit, but what Florida coach hasn’t been able to recruit? Ron Zook was the best recruiter they probably ever had down there in Gainesville.

Arch Dawg

December 13th, 2010
8:30 am

What I heard was Foley asked Mullen if they could talk and Mullen said he’d have to run it by the folks at State first. Foley got offended and moved on. Whatever their loss our gain.

ARdawg

December 13th, 2010
8:31 am

Let’s all just stop the world and let Tony and his Heisman show wrap up aboard. How dare UF for making an announcement while they are assembled to give out an award. Give me a fuggin break

Wyltk

December 13th, 2010
8:31 am

Now that Randy Shannon has been hired at Texas to replace Muschamp, it should be interesting to see the improvement it that defense that was loaded with talent but leaked like a sieve under Muschamp. Hiring coordinators is always a risk but Muschamp was ready for a high profile job. Certainly a hot commodity but Florida is a top 3 type job where they should be able to avoid any such risks and hire one of the top proven head coaches. Certainly interesting to see that little group of close friends of Muschamp, Smart, Bobo, D Dooley and Jimbo Fisher all rising to prominent positions in the CFB world and particularly the SEC. What is even funnier is it’s rumored that Muschamp and Jimbo share in the ownership of a Florida beach vacation house.

AuTigerAtl

December 13th, 2010
8:31 am

War Cam Eagle! Another well deserved Heisman for Auburn University. It’s great to be an Auburn Tiger!!
Sanctions ain’t gonna happen. You’ll all be disappointed, yet again.
SC will win the East again next year.
Cheer up ladies, the Muschamp hire means a Bulldog of some description will win every year in JAX.

MURPHY

December 13th, 2010
8:32 am

Always amuzed,

This is one Dawg fan that never said bring Muschamp or Smart to Athens.Florida will see that he isnt ready.If they give him 3-4 years he will be a good one though.

That didn’t take long. | Get The Picture

December 13th, 2010
8:32 am

[...] Tony Barnhart’s already picking Florida to win the SEC East next season, even though Muschamp hasn’t even assembled a staff yet. … The problem at Florida last season was not talent. It was a lack of focus and a lack of leadership. The team was not focused because too many leaders had left and there was never a coherent offensive strategy. Muschamp can fix the leadership issue… [...]

ARdawg

December 13th, 2010
8:34 am

voice of reason

It would appear to me that the Muschamp deal was done or near done before Meyer even made his announcement. 4 days isn’t a long time for Foley to shop around AND sign a new guy. One or the other, not both

Always amuzed at Humpers

December 13th, 2010
8:34 am

voice of reason

So glad you are on the inside of all the strategy. Harbaugh wants one of two jobs:Michigan or NFL and Foley would have been an idiot to have even offered a job for 2 seasons at most. You are like most other UGA fans, you are in denial. The search dragged on for weeks after Spurrier left and Foley openly courted several including Shanahan. I have a close friend who works in the AD office and he told me yesterday that Muschamp has been his target since the FSU game because Foley expected then for Urban to step away.

Gary

December 13th, 2010
8:34 am

I would like to congratulate the 108 voters who left Cam off their ballots entirely. They stood on principle. Shame you could not do the same. You know the NCAA decision was wrong.

I think the timing was brilliant

December 13th, 2010
8:35 am

Newton was a cancer to the UF program, and he has not earned trust nor respect from the university.

Making this announcement to trump his tainted heisman win is a nice gambit in this ncaa recruiting and PR game…

and for the record I despise UF and AU

Ted Striker

December 13th, 2010
8:35 am

There were some who said that the timing of Urban Meyer’s announcement was an attempt to upstage the Heisman trophy award too.

Anyone who is upset over the timing of UF’s announcement — and I’m a UGA guy — is looking for something to complain about. Get over it.

Comeontony Think

December 13th, 2010
8:37 am

THINK my friend…you are just trying to stir up trouble with your insinuations. One of the few truths Cam said in the beginning is Meyer helped him relocate (discreetly to protect him) and he was grateful…he lied about his reasons for the transfer after he and his lawyer had a year to make up a new story. Do you really think Meyer let the cat out of the bag? Mullen was his QB coach at Fla when all of this transpired, knew the whole story and had more reason after Cam disappointed him. Is it possible the coach that Mullen took with him from UF, who talked w/Cam, broke the news. After all, Newton rejected Miss St when they didn’t pay and it was one of the coaches that stated Cam said the money was too much at Auburn.

I don’t approve of a lot of things Meyer did such as play favorites which added to the dissension
on the team, but he would not reveal what he knew and go against rules himself especially if it would hurt a kid.

Incidentally, the whole team knew the story at the time as Newton flapped his mouth then, and it’s possible one of his own ex-teammates leaked the story when they got got fed up with Newton’s new fairy tales.

SEC_Analyst

December 13th, 2010
8:37 am

Florida certainly should have been able to hire a proven Head Coach. Something about this hire smells a little fishy. Last year, this might have made sense, but after the poor showing of the Longhorn defense this season, I figured that Muschamp might be in jeopardy of losing his job at Texas.

RomeDawg

December 13th, 2010
8:37 am

Although I am a Dawg at heart, I am proud of the fellow Roman for landing the job at Florida. Muschamp is intense and I think to be successful he needs to surround himself with great coordinators.

Why would ANYONE take the Vandy job?

Nick Fairley

December 13th, 2010
8:37 am

I think the timing was done very un fairly. I it was up to me I would hit the Florida AD at the knees and late.

Tony Smith

December 13th, 2010
8:40 am

I’m a Gator fan, and I say that Florida cannot steal Cam’s moment. It was tacky, but Cam is the greatest. We should have kept him. Brantley is terrible.

Alphare

December 13th, 2010
8:42 am

MURPHY,

agree with you about UT or SC. SC is a couple of more good recruits away from a great team.

Tony Smith

December 13th, 2010
8:42 am

I’m not an Auburn fan — but I play one on TV.

MURPHY

December 13th, 2010
8:44 am

Alphare,

I do believe Carolina will get them in the class that is headed to Columbia this year. Spurrier is stock-piling the talent for future runs at the SEC Crown

SEC_Analyst

December 13th, 2010
8:45 am

I wonder how long SOS will stay at SC? I suspect that if next year’s squad has a drop off, he will begin to consider stepping down. He might well have reached his high-water mark at SC.

Dr. Phil

December 13th, 2010
8:46 am

It is very interesting that former Georgia players don’t return to Georgia to coach, except for Bobo, who never really left.

MURPHY

December 13th, 2010
8:46 am

Tony,

Dont worry Brantley wont start next year over Reed

Jerry

December 13th, 2010
8:47 am

Muschamp had a weak schedule.

Only wins were against teams like Rice, Wyoming, it’s really a joke of a schedule.

And the dude still went 5-7.

gt

December 13th, 2010
8:49 am

Muschamp has strong inroads to recruiting in Georgia. Look for more leakage in the state ranks going out of state. And Muschamp is a leader, Zook was an after thought in an offensive minded Spurrier’s coaching staff. Once you have played under the thumb of a Spurrier how does a player respect anybody else particularly a defensive coach from the old staff. They have seen the best and Spurrier could take or leave defense back in those days.

Cam Newton in on the field. Gus Malzahn couldn’t mess this game up if the mob paid him to do so. This guy put Malzahn on the map, he was a high school coach and many wondered why he was coaching in college up until this year. I personally think he is exactly what Vandy needs ,just like, only not as good as Paul Johnson. Malzahn will have more of a June Jones type impact , which put SMU back in the real world after being gone so long. Anybody that would take the Vandy job has to be slightly touched in the head, or knows his meal ticket is leaving for the pros next year.

Reader of Morons and quite a few idiots

December 13th, 2010
8:50 am

MURPHY, Reed will move back to TE and Brantley will compete with incoming freshman Jeff Driskell who many call T2.

Greg

December 13th, 2010
8:50 am

Florida will finish #4 in SEC East.

#1 Georgia
#2 South Carolina
#3 Kentucky
#4 florida (Tenn could surprise Florida)

yesUF

December 13th, 2010
8:51 am

lets call Harbaugh and let him coach us one year and run off to the NFL.And I’m sure he knows the sec inside and out???? The more opposing fans whine about the MusCHAMP hiRING,Well,it just tells me the Gators got it right.Will it happen in one yr like Mr.College Football says? Probably not,more than likely we will have a few pains.I absolutely think the Gators got it right,But it will take a little time.

MURPHY

December 13th, 2010
8:53 am

Reader,

Saw Driskell play 2 weeks ago. Man what a talented kid! Scary good!

Wally Butts' Designated Stumbler

December 13th, 2010
8:53 am

If Muschamp coaches the Gators for a total of 6 years, how many times will he lose to the dawgs?

(a) 0
(b) 1
(c) in your dreams, mutts!

Reader of Morons and quite a few idiots

December 13th, 2010
8:53 am

Greg, the order will be reversed and with Malzahn going to Vandy, UGA will lose to Vandy once again. Isnt it a bit early for a Humper to already be predicting a Natl CHampionship in Humpville Greg?

gatordowneast

December 13th, 2010
8:55 am

Our “poodle” will continue the recent Gator tradition of lifting our leg on your “poodle”.

NoGaGator

December 13th, 2010
8:55 am

One has to give Foley credit, instead of going the ’safe” route and getting an established big-time HC, he took the risk on bringing in one of the, if not the best, of the up-and-comers. It is a testament to the political capital he’s earned over his years of successful hires at UF.

The most seamless choice, especially for the short term, would have been Mullen. Mullen, however, faced more than a little criticism for his play-calling during his years at UF and was considered somewhat aloof.

Foley had been giving clues to his hire from the get-go when he said he was looking for not just a good coach but also a good fit for the community. He also said the hire didn’t necessarily need to be a current HC. With Musschamp growing up in Gainesville, Foley was almost telling us his first choice.

For those comparing this to Zook’s hire, it isn’t even close. Zook had been demoted by Spurrier and hadn’t distinguished himself with the Saints. A less-experienced Foley at that time went for the short-term solution with a guy who knew UF and was a good recruiter.

Musschamp is young and relentless. He’s one of the best D coaches and recruiters going. His D’s have consistently been at the top of the rankings – even ths past year when they ranked 7th. Even better, he can assimilate and recruit immediately since UT isn’t in a bowl. Hopefully, he won’t have the health issues that Meyer unfortunately has.

Even though this announcement surprised many of us, the more I think about it the more I like it. There may be some short-term growing pains as he adapts to being a HC, but this will be a great long-term solution.

Congrats to Foley for being ahead of everyone on this.

jim

December 13th, 2010
8:55 am

Well, Bulldog fans know that hiring a great coordinator does not make you a great head coach. Everyone will have to wait and see what happens with Muschamp in Florida. There were certainly other names available out there.

NashDawg

December 13th, 2010
8:56 am

Once again. Who cares!!!

Reader of Morons and quite a few idiots

December 13th, 2010
8:56 am

MURPHY, you are correct. I saw him earlier in the season and he played against a team with about 80% black kids and ran past them like they were on crutches. Much faster than Tebow with a better arm. He is the real deal, took a poor team to the second round of the playoffs.

JB

December 13th, 2010
8:56 am

Quote from Mark Richt in the Athens Banner Herald ( look it up) the Monday after the Tech Game. ” We couldn’t stop Tech and we had no one to put in on defense to help”………That’s where we are folks…no depth and little SEC talent on that side of the ball. If you don’t agree, you have your head in the sand……Unless we bring in a couple of stud JC players and a freshman or two who are game changers, we better hope Jarvis Jones is the real deal, or 5 or 6 defeats next year due to not being able to stop anybody. Take Muschamp off the list.

gatordowneast

December 13th, 2010
8:58 am

On Vandy, best job on that campus is “Dean of Students”. Not too many kids get sent to the principals office in Nashville.

The football coach is part of the “intramural” program. What could Malzahn be thinking? Career suicide.

Lanier Dawg

December 13th, 2010
8:58 am

Just remember, Tony and everyone’s mother predicted the Gators to win the SEC East this year and we all know how that one turned out. The problem was not focus, it was coaching and talent. You don’t have all that talent that left from a team that lost two games in 2 seasons and not have some drop off. You also don’t have the best OC and DC in the nation leave and not have drop off. Urban was a good coach, but his assistants were better.

The talent is still good, but it was not championship caliber talent. Especially those who are eating crow for the fabulous job Jon Brantley did at QB this year. Still believe he is the best QB in the SEC?

Skitty Fritty

December 13th, 2010
8:59 am

So, Muschamp is actually better than Meyer? The Gator fans have had two coaches, Spurrier and Meyer. Remember your history Gator nation. UF has always had great recruiting even with Zook but you need a coach. Based on history, I wouldn’t bet the house on Muschamp.
Your first SEC championship came under Spurrier. UF fans act like they have Alabama’s tradition, not even close.

Brad

December 13th, 2010
9:01 am

I hope it hurt Cam Newtons feelings Tony.

We don’t know if Muschamp will be a good hire for Florida until next year. What we do know is that they are loaded with talent and he can recruit. We also know that if our Georgia’s coaching situation were in a search situation right now, Muschamp would be on the short list. So, I think they hired a good one and we will see what happens. Hopefully we can get the monkey off our back and start winning that game again with some regularity.

Don

December 13th, 2010
9:01 am

Most of the SEC was afraid that Florida would get Mullen and wreck the League with his schemes and Florida Talent which will be hard to do from Starkville so he is in a “safe Place”. Also, most of the SEC is giddy with anticipation of kicking the Gators Tail with the coach they have chosen – perhaps he knows something about defense but look what this yeahoo did at Texas this year and yep, he knows jack nothing about offense so his smartass and ego will get smacked around for years untill Florida comes to their senses and realize the error of their ways – maybe they wil go after Curly Hallman next time – hey I heard Gerry Dinardo might be available

MURPHY

December 13th, 2010
9:01 am

Reader,

Are you sure Driskell is staying with commit to UF?

Reader of Morons and quite a few idiots

December 13th, 2010
9:01 am

Lanier Dawg it was not talent, they have had 5 consecutive top 5 recruiting classes. It was coaching and youth. The Gators played 18 true freshmen this year, it was the same as in 07 except in 07 they did a better job coaching. Meyer took the year off and had a lousy staff.

Go to believe

December 13th, 2010
9:02 am

Both were great picks..sorry Muschamp wont get his chance at UGA after Richt but thats life dawgs. Love the Cam Heisman! Fairly line-man of the year!

Reader of Morons and quite a few idiots

December 13th, 2010
9:03 am

Murph he said so yesterday. And Skitty Fritty, even the Zooker owned Richt. What is your history: Uncle “they paid me more than Clemson” Walker and Vince Dooley?

Skitty Fritty

December 13th, 2010
9:03 am

I agree, as a non UF fan, I was afraid they would get Mullen and then watch out. What he has done at MSU is amazing. Don’t know why they didn’t get Mullen or Petrino.

voice of reason

December 13th, 2010
9:03 am

Some of you don’t think an AD can pick up the phone and call a couple of high profile coaches in one evening to gauge their interest? I didn’t realize it took two weeks to make a phone call. And like someone noted, Foley probably knew weeks before the announcement that Meyer was stepping down. Plenty of time to contact a few high profile coaches or their agents to gauge interest.

The truth is Muschamp was ticked off that Brown had decided to stay and was chomping at the bit to get out of Austin. Flroida had time to look around behind the scenes and I do not believe that Muschamp was their #1 target. This is a risky move that may or may not end up paying off. This is the opposite of the Urban Meyer hire who had proved his head coaching ability.

One more thing, what is the deal with Meyer sticking around and keeping an office at the Gator complex? Weird. Could this have been the reason some of the high profile coaches said no thanks?

Reader of Morons and quite a few idiots

December 13th, 2010
9:04 am

Don, Richt wont be available though because the Hump Nation still drinks his coolaid.

Skitty Fritty

December 13th, 2010
9:04 am

Reader of Morons and quite a few idiots:
How many SEC titles did UF has before Spurrier? How many times was UF put on probation before Spurrier? You don’t know your history.

JB

December 13th, 2010
9:05 am

THE OC hire in Florida will tell the tale……Defense would be fine without a coach…… I don’t see the team at Georgia next year beating them. Muschamp will have them lathered us for us.

TrishaDishaWarEagle

December 13th, 2010
9:05 am

Congratulations to AUBURN UNIVERSITY and CAMERON NEWTON, for winning the
2010 HEISMAN TROPHY!

It was so cool to see all 3 AU Heisman trophy winners there…Cam, Bo Jackson, Pat sullivan

Bama’s lone Heisman winner was there too.

To Gus Malzahn, as you ponder the Vandy job.. I want to say thank you for a awesome year and I hope you stay at AU..stay at AU and win back to back SEC championships then you could get head coach job offers from places like..i dunno.. uga and bama:)

RxDawg

December 13th, 2010
9:05 am

“As a Dawgs fan I did breathe a big sigh of relief that Mullen wasnt the man.”

DITTO

Skitty Fritty

December 13th, 2010
9:06 am

Why are UF fans commenting abour Richt when you should be celebrating your great coaching hire? You should be happy Richt is at UGA but it sounds like you are worried.

Reader of Morons and quite a few idiots

December 13th, 2010
9:06 am

Skitty Fritty, no titles except when UGA voted to strip them of it. How many has UGA won since 80 and I dont believe we have had anything as shameful as Jan Kemp.

Reader of Morons and quite a few idiots

December 13th, 2010
9:07 am

I finally agree with you SKitty Fuuky, We hope Richt stays long enough for a Georgia boy to go ahead in the series.

shankit

December 13th, 2010
9:08 am

Word down here in Dosta from a reliable source
is Kirby will make the lateral move with Muschamp,
and Major Appleby will be the O. C.
Foley has made an excellent decision to separate
his program from Urban, Mullen, etc. Got rid of
all the garbage. Muschamp will set Saban, Richt
etc. back six years with recruiting.

ntr

December 13th, 2010
9:08 am

tenn had the same record as ga this year and played
#2 oregon
#8 alabama and #10 lsu
tenn will beat the doors off ga next year. losing your wide receiving talent will kill you next year. all those dropped passes…they r coming.

SEC_Analyst

December 13th, 2010
9:08 am

gt

December 13th, 2010
8:49 am

Cam Newton in on the field. Gus Malzahn couldn’t mess this game up if the mob paid him to do so. This guy put Malzahn on the map, he was a high school coach and many wondered why he was coaching in college up until this year.”

I heard an interview with Coach Chizik the other day. He admitted that the 2010 Auburn offense was not at all what the coaching staff had planned. He said that by the time the fourth game was played, they had totally abandoned their preseason offensive schemes and were building their offensive game plans around what Cam was doing on the field instead. I doubt that Cam would miss Gus if he weren’t on the sidelines. Cam Newton plays “backyard football”, and he has the athletic ability to make such an ad lib offensive strategy practically indefensible. Malzahn would be wise to strike while his iron is hot. He will be a superstar at Vandy.

Reader of Morons and quite a few idiots

December 13th, 2010
9:09 am

I heard that Muschamp offered Bobo a chance to run the scout team.

Richie

December 13th, 2010
9:10 am

Mullen had a good yr.It will not contiune,the rest of the sec will be ready next yr.

winterDawg

December 13th, 2010
9:10 am

Well, when Muschamp played here they were the worst teams Athens had seen since the 50’s. Hopefully, he learned well how to do nothing with gobs of talent. Maybe the tide of luck is beginning to turn.

yesUF

December 13th, 2010
9:11 am

Petrino? You don’t understand why we did not talk to Petrino? WoW!

Lanier Dawg

December 13th, 2010
9:12 am

Reader of Morons……thanks for proving my point. When I said it was talent, I also followed up with this little gem: “You don’t have all that talent that left from a team that lost two games in 2 seasons and not have some drop off.” or you might have missed this one too: “The talent is still good, but it was not championship caliber talent.” I did not say Florida didn’t have talent. I said the talent this year was the problem. You don’t win SEC Championships with mostly Freshmen. You also don’t win them in a spread offense being led by a drop back QB. Yes the talent at Florida this year did them in.

winterDawg

December 13th, 2010
9:13 am

It’s not like Urban wasn’t getting top notch recruits every year. It matters what you do when you have them as we at UGA know all too well. The recruiting at Florida will be the same as when Meyer was there. But, there will not be a Tim Tebow there.

JaxGator

December 13th, 2010
9:14 am

It is humerous that some of you have so much knowlege about Florida’s hiring a new coach. Mullen was offered the job and turned Foley down? Really. Funny that not one news organization reported any contact by Foley with anyone other than Muschamp; however, some of you must have better sources than ESPN or the AJC. We Gators are happy with the selection of Muschamp. He might have played for Georgia, but he grew up as a Gator and sounds like he remained one. If Zook could beat Richt 2-1, I feel confident that Muschamp will have no problems with Georgia. Also, you may never get Mullen; I am sure that your AD knows of the issues with Mullen, recruiting, that Foley knew.

Arch Dawg

December 13th, 2010
9:15 am

Actually Richie,

Arkansas loses Mallet, Alabama loses Mcelroy and probably Ingram, Auburn is going to dissentegrate losing Cam, the entire O line and Malzahn, Ole Miss contiunes to stink, and the schedule is going to be easier than it was this year. MSU is a very young team this year. Next year they very well could make it to the SECCG again.

Lanier Dawg

December 13th, 2010
9:16 am

ntr

December 13th, 2010
9:08 am

tenn had the same record as ga this year and played
#2 oregon
#8 alabama and #10 lsu
tenn will beat the doors off ga next year. losing your wide receiving talent will kill you next year. all those dropped passes…they r coming.

Thanks ntr……I needed that laugh this morning.

No Muschamp, No Smart

December 13th, 2010
9:18 am

Count me as one UGA fan who NEVER wants to see Kirby Smart or Will Muschamp patrolling the sidelines at UGA. These guys wouldn’t lift a finger to help UGA in the last several years when we have been struggling in recruiting and on defense. UGA gave these guys an education and they have shown UGA no gratitude and no loyalty. I understand that Muschamp grew up in Gainseville, but it wasn’t UF that gave him an opportunity to play football, it was UGA. For him to say that UF is his dream job is a smack in the face to everyone who cheered for him while he was supposedly trying to beat Florida back in the day.

zig

December 13th, 2010
9:19 am

Amazing how soon the Gay-tors are to changing their tune about UGA and their players once they hire one to fix their sinking ship. Hypocrisy at it’s finest.

poopdawg

December 13th, 2010
9:20 am

Muschamp doesn’t need Meyer still with an office at UF. Good hire though. Questioning the timing of the announcement is showing your feminine side a little too much Tony.

JB

December 13th, 2010
9:21 am

I still don’t see a SEC running back at Florida. I don’t see a SEC caliber WR. Muschamp has work to do.

winterDawg

December 13th, 2010
9:21 am

No Mushchamp, No Smart, I couldn’t agree more!

Sharrif Floyd

December 13th, 2010
9:22 am

Will coach mustache dream of me and him also????

Will

December 13th, 2010
9:26 am

Petrino…$18 million buyout clause! WOW

I am sure by the end of January ‘11 Mullen will have a contract extension with a SEC non-compete much as Petrino does now.

dawgfan

December 13th, 2010
9:27 am

The Jort Nation can spin this anyway they like but Mullen was a no brainer and would have hit the ground running at Florida. If Muschamp was their first choice then I’m the freaking tooth fairy. That’s all there is to it.

Muschamp may win 5 national titles or he may win 5 games. There is no way of knowing. He has never been a head coach.

The timing of the announcement does not surprise me. Florida is the most classless program in the SEC. I like how the AP article described a potential Gus Malzahn move to Florida as a “lateral move.”. LMAO. That won’t sit well with the arrogant Gators.

Gator88

December 13th, 2010
9:27 am

Wow-in the words of others a “Mutt” as the coach of the Gators?!?!?!?1 That shows how bad we have now beaten on them for 20 years-20 years ago this doesn’t happen!!!!! I don’t believe Foley’s spew either-he made some private calls/etc. to find out who was/wasn’t interested. But that being said-I didn’t want Stoops-he can beat the heck out of also-rans but comes up short in big games. Harbaugh is an unknown and probably didn’t want the job, Mullen-I remember the outcry for Mullen’s head when we lost to Ole Miss at home in 2008. 4th and 1 and he calls the Tebow plunge into the line again-no one saw that coming?!?!?!?!?!? We lose. I would have been happy with him though. Let’s see what happens…………if the guy can recruit that’s 60%+ of the battle. No matter how good/bad you are you ain’t winning Champs with bad players-I don’t care what they say…Boise has some talent.

ted brogan

December 13th, 2010
9:27 am

TrishaDishaWarEagle,

So Bama and UGA fans should be worried about Malzahn replacing Saban and Richt. I like how you throw in Bama’s only heisman winner as well. The more crap I hear Auburn fans talk the more I become a duck fan. Remember, bama did it last year with a heisman winner and a national championship, you’re not making history you’re just keeping up.
If Malzahn and Newton leave next year, how’s the program looking. Let’s see this year without Newton, 6-6. Do you think he will go to the NFL, no he’s to loyal to Auburn and not wanting the money now, oh wait…..

Cobb Dawg

December 13th, 2010
9:29 am

Tony, UF trying to steal *Cam Newton’s limelight………..really?!? Do you really believe that or are you trying to stir the pot a little (I hope it’s the latter). You seem to have an infatuation with *Auburn and *Newton that I can’t understand. And you being a college football insider have to know what goes on there. UF wanted to hire a coach as soon as possible so as not to disrupt recruiting season, plain and simple. It had NOTHING to do with *Auburn and the pseudoHeisman.

Tim

December 13th, 2010
9:32 am

Tony,

I would really like to hear your opinion of the Cam situation. Your real opinion. You’ve been around and you know better than many what happens at auburn is not typical of other schools. I think the readers would like to hear from Mr College Football. If you don’t I understand that as well (see Tim Brando backlash).
Thanks

Todd

December 13th, 2010
9:33 am

Not sooooooo fast Tony, Fl to win the SEC East next yr?

Coaching change, Brantley zukes, and look at the schedule.

Then again they only have to get by the Ole Ball Coach at Carolina, I have to rely on Mark Richt and Bobo, that sounds promising!

Meanwhile McGarity and the Ga brass sit asleep at the wheel while Aron Murray and Orson Charles become the next in line of great Ga players to leave with no hardware.

Bama

December 13th, 2010
9:34 am

Since the East has been predicted here is my prediction for the West.

1. Bama 2. LSU 3. Miss. State 4. Auburn 5. Arkansas 6. Ole Miss. I believe that based on returning talent, you will find this is not just ne being a Bama fan but most so called experts will predict it this way as well.

Florida | MrSEC.com

December 13th, 2010
9:34 am

[...] don’t come around very often.  (I’ve seen two in 39 years.)* Tony Barnhart of The AJC doesn’t buy the “risk” talk that myself and so many others are tossing around today.  In his view, “… those who [...]

David

December 13th, 2010
9:34 am

Oh please Tony, Florida dissapointed you? What a joke, everybody knows Ga fans don’t like Florida. Hell I wouldn’t like them either if they kicked my butt every year. Man could you be more obvious? By the way I don ‘t care for Florida, but they are like death and taxes. They will kick Ga’s butt again. Have you ever thought maybe Ga deserves the annual butt kicking by Florida?

jumbeauxtiger

December 13th, 2010
9:35 am

I don’t believe that Muschamp was Foley’s number one choice. I believe that the current head coaches they put out feelers to weren’t interested. For any successful coach, the job is a no-win situation. Too high of expectations after the job Meyer did.

Under the circumstances, Muschamp was probably the best choice.

Tony, I think that SC is the favorite in the East in 2011 with Garcia, Jeffery and Lattimore coming back.

Bob

December 13th, 2010
9:39 am

I understand that at the end of the day this is a business and these coaches are grown professionals, but I still don’t understand how Muschamp can get up there and say this is his “dream job.”. Wow. Talk about burning bridges. Let’s see how dreamy that job is after a couple of sub-10 win seasons there bud. Urban Meyer won two national titles in 3 years, and Gator fans didn’t exactly have low expectaions BEFORE that happened. Good luck following that act pal.

Good riddance to Kirby Smart too. I personally think its Saban pulling the strings over there anyway.

jmdawginga

December 13th, 2010
9:42 am

Mullen did it when he was hired at MSU, He went back and coached the NC game, He said it was difficult but Byrne felt MSU owed it to Mullen to allow him to be at UF for the final game, It really sparked the players at MSU knowing they had a coach that helped claim a NC.

Cassie

December 13th, 2010
9:43 am

Great hire by Florida and great talent at Florida.–UG is hating it and so happy with the timing of the Heisman, could not have happened at a better time or to a better person. Cam the sociopath that bring Auburn down…watch him smile when it happens..

McDawg

December 13th, 2010
9:45 am

so basically what TB is saying is that the problems at UGA are a lack of talent

MURPHY

December 13th, 2010
9:45 am

Jax Gator,

Make sure you are back on these blogs next year and tell me what you think of yall’s new hire.You wont be happy I assure you.Muschamp will be a good head coach but it will take more time than Florida has patience for.Im glad Mullen wasnt hired!

winterDawg

December 13th, 2010
9:46 am

Way too early to make predicitons. Tenn, UGA, S. Car and Florida will be tough. I even think Joker Phillips may have Kentucky primed for some upsets.

Phone Check Homey

December 13th, 2010
9:46 am

I agree with the poster above
Muschamp and Smart can suck a free GT hotdog

Will

December 13th, 2010
9:47 am

Of course Florida is “rolling the dice” on hiring a head coach with no previous experience as a head coach.

A head coach of a major college football program is a manager of assistant coaches, details and “nuts and bolts” running of the program. In addition, the head coach is the face, voice and ambassador of the program.

An assistant head coordinator may be skilled and experinced in details, nuts and bolts and even management of the other coaches on his side of the ball but he is rarely the face and voice, much less the ambassador of the program. That’s why you see many career assistants. It’s not that they could not do the job, its that they don’t want the hassle of the press, alumni, etc.

Will may very well make an excellent head coach but what he is walking into is a far cry from what he has been used to. Nothing against, Will – a fine young man – EVERY assistant assuming a head coaching position is an unknown quantity.

BAMA dude

December 13th, 2010
9:47 am

I don’t know about the Muschamp hire. If he ends up bringing Major Applewhite with him it makes even less sense to me. Also, all I have heard about regarding his assistants is how many “friends” he has to choose from. Hiring someone you consider a friend can easily undermine your ability to hold them accountable- doesn’t sound too good to me. Gus leaving the Barn is delicious though. Those folks are freaking.

Hyman Roth

December 13th, 2010
9:47 am

Tony — Sorry, you don’t get a vote on when UF should or should not made its announcement. Mike Slive brought this on himself, AU and the Conference when he decided that integrity and by-laws were optional, so he is reaping what has been sewn. The whole ceremony and BCS title game are fraud. Also, you credibility about UF predictions for next year are laughable given you predicitions this summer about John Brantley being anointed best QB in the conference, even though he had ZERO experience in meaningful game situations.

zulucanibal

December 13th, 2010
9:47 am

Fullback…gators have to find one.

Alphare

December 13th, 2010
9:51 am

No way Muschamp is the 1st choice.

Why did Petrino get a big raise out of blue? No everybody is a Kiffin, look what he has achieved so far with the #1 recruiting class in Southern Cal? Mullen is whole lot smarter than Kiffin.

Kenny Powers

December 13th, 2010
9:51 am

Miami should of hired Leach!

Richt > Muschamp

December 13th, 2010
9:52 am

With UF hiring an inexperienced coach, Richt will own UF for years. Ga will start a long run of wins against fl in 2011–mark it down! GA–back on top. Fla’s brief fluke run is over.

The Fonz

December 13th, 2010
9:52 am

Dear Mr. Barnhart,

You have officially jumped the shark. I can’t take you seriously anymore. That is all.

Paul in RDU

December 13th, 2010
9:53 am

BAMA Dude – You made a good point on the hiring of “friends”. Obviously a HC wants to surround himself with people he knows and trusts and who are talented. It shouldn’t be an issue if they are “friends” provided the HC takes a business approach – some managers/HCs don’t take that approach and it hurts them and their program.

Gatorrock

December 13th, 2010
9:53 am

Again Foley has shown why he is the measuring stick for college AD’s. He knows the FBI will uncover the truth on Newton’s recruitment not only as it pertains to MSU, Auburn but at UF too…with Meyer gone and not bringing back Mullen..all the key players will be gone at UF, so he hopes to get off with merely a slap on the wrist..unlike what will happen to Auburn and MSU..its amazing how one player could impact a team on the field…even more amazing the number of teams he has the potential to impact off the field.

shankit

December 13th, 2010
9:55 am

Muschamp coached at VSU under Hatcher.
Don’t see Hatcher leaving a head coach job
to coach under one of his prior assistants.
Same with Mike Leach, who is an offensive
genius. Coached at VSU too, with Muschamp.
Probably Major Applewhite, although word out
is he is renegotiating with Texas as the head
OC out there and Texas is his Alma M. Who does that leave?

John

December 13th, 2010
9:55 am

SC will win the East again next year. Their schedule isn’t as rugged next year as it was in 2010. Clowney will sign with SC in February and SOS will field his most talented team yet over there. It’ll come down to SC and UF again, except in 2011 the game is in Columbia.

Joey

December 13th, 2010
9:55 am

Does Cam’s “contract” with Auburn require him to play in ‘11?

boog

December 13th, 2010
9:58 am

to answer your question…Yes… UF is rolling the dice. He may be “ready” as you say but it is anyones guess as to the success that he will have. You would think that Muschamp would have had to prove himself at a slightly less visable venue before a Florida came calling.

Mark Richt

December 13th, 2010
9:58 am

“Hiring someone you consider a friend can easily undermine your ability to hold them accountable”
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Ain’t that the truth . . .

MURPHY

December 13th, 2010
10:00 am

BAMA dude,

A head coach hiring friends isnt a good choice-Just ask Ray Goff and Jim Donnan. Gus to Vandy is interesting-Does he coach the National Championship Game.That could leave AU in a bad situation uh? Now quit laughing and give me your thoughts.

takedowndawg

December 13th, 2010
10:01 am

Interesting hire. I would agree we you who have mentioned above that Muschamp was a backup hire, not a primary. Would like for fl to continue with its “mis-mash” offense for all the SEC’s entertainment NEXT YEAR. Pure street ball. If our DC, grantham, can’t stop that form of offense he doesn’t deserve to be here. I was personally very embarrassed that were not able to stop it when it counted most. Very ugly indeed. Go STREETBALL FL!

Joey

December 13th, 2010
10:01 am

“With UF hiring an inexperienced coach, Richt will own UF for years.”
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Like the way he “owned” Zook?

Heisman

December 13th, 2010
10:01 am

Disgusting to watch.Some of those guys up there looked like,Damn,Can you believe this $hit,Just get it over.Tarnished,indeed!

MURPHY

December 13th, 2010
10:01 am

BAMA dude,

Also about hiring friends-Mark Richt-look were our program is at right now.

JB

December 13th, 2010
10:02 am

News on the Vandy job: The Auburn OC is waiting word from Louder to see if the money to stay at AU is as good or better than Cam’s deal……..

dawgfan

December 13th, 2010
10:02 am

I what a surprise. A member of the media is picking Florida to win the SEC East. I think I’ll wet my pants. Yes, Florida has won their fair share of SEC East titles in recent years. However, they are almost always the favorite to win the East every single year and it doesn’t always come to fruition. You’d probably have to go back to 2005 to find the last time Florida wasn’t picked to win the East, and even that was an abberation. They’ve been the favorite every year since. Even when Georgia was preseason #1 Florida got the nod in the East. So forgive me if I’m not exactly putting up a white flag because Mr. Media College Football says Florida will win the East. Whoopdeedoo.

Thanks.

BAMA dude

December 13th, 2010
10:03 am

Murph, he’ll coach the MNC game. It ain’t like Vandy has a big class coming in that they need to hold onto. I can’t believe Vandy found $3MM honestly, but glad to see him leave. The Barn 2011 will look like Texas 2010 imo.

Muschamp>Zook>Richt

December 13th, 2010
10:06 am

I cannot believe how the delusional fan base from Jawja still defends Richt. Oh well, I hope he stays forever.

JB

December 13th, 2010
10:07 am

AU also loses FOUR veteran offensive lineman off this years team. When Cam and Fairley leave and these lineman leave, They will be back to being toothless tigers. This year was impressive though.

Muschamp>Zook>Richt

December 13th, 2010
10:08 am

dawgfan what a surprise. A member of the media is picking Florida to win the SEC East. I think I’ll wet my pants. What a surprise, Humpers thinking the UGA will dominate again. WAKE UP IT HAS BEEN 30 YEARS AND HERSHEL HAS NO ELIGIBILITY REMAINING!!!

JB

December 13th, 2010
10:09 am

Gus is looking at Vandy to plump up his 401K. No way to win up there. Saban couldn’t win there if offered 10 mil to go.

BAMA dude

December 13th, 2010
10:10 am

JB, your initial-sake (Yeah, it’s a word. I just made it up) Josh Bynes, MLB and leader of the D, is gone too.

jumbeauxtiger

December 13th, 2010
10:10 am

BAMA dude

“I don’t know about the Muschamp hire. If he ends up bringing Major Applewhite with him it makes even less sense to me. Also, all I have heard about regarding his assistants is how many “friends” he has to choose from. Hiring someone you consider a friend can easily undermine your ability to hold them accountable- doesn’t sound too good to me.”

Well said. I learned a long time ago never to hire friends in business. Almost always backfires.

MURPHY

December 13th, 2010
10:10 am

BAMA dude,

I see Vandy finally being determined to make Football a little bit more important.Hope it works out for them.Would like to Vandy improve which would make the SEC even stronger.

JB

December 13th, 2010
10:11 am

Georgia’s problem is Dr. Adams……When the money dries up, he’ll fire Richt. Winning is not that important to him AS YOU CAN SEE.

MURPHY

December 13th, 2010
10:13 am

JB,

I some what agree with that statment.It is however important to Mc Garity.I can see him and Adams butting heads in the future.

jumbeauxtiger

December 13th, 2010
10:14 am

Ranking up there with Muschamp as the shock of the weekend has to be Vandy paying $3 mil for a coach.

Gatorrock

December 13th, 2010
10:16 am

John I think UF blows the doors off SC next year..and before you start with the SC returns all that talent line..they almost lost to a UGA team that had a QB and new D that had never taken a snap in a SEC game…and Auburn blew the doors off SC much worst than they did UGA…SC might win one of those games I just don’t see them beating both teams.

MURPHY

December 13th, 2010
10:16 am

jumbeauxtiger,

How about yall getting Mettenberg? Happy bout this? Good kid-good player.

producewiz

December 13th, 2010
10:17 am

proof is in the pudding.we’ll see.Just like this 4 or 5 * recruting crap we get all the time.Sure worked for Texas,Florida,Alabama, and Georgia , this past season didn’t it?

MURPHY

December 13th, 2010
10:18 am

Gatorrock,

I saw Carolina BLOW THE DOORS off the Gators in the swamp! Wishfull thinking yall will go to Carolina next year and return the favor-Go back to your dream.

JB

December 13th, 2010
10:18 am

Murph. 2011 is the year year for Richt. The question will be what amount of wins keeps him in Athens. Does going 8-4 and losing to Boise,SC,Fla and a surprise loss bring him back. That’s nothing special.
Beating those three mentioned teams would. I know another 6-6 gets him fired, but I think 8-4 saves him, especially if this years class is strong. Thoughts?

Mike

December 13th, 2010
10:18 am

Didn’t Tuberville want and campaign for the Miami job? I thought he was a successful BCS level head coach?

BAMA dude

December 13th, 2010
10:21 am

Gatorrock
December 13th, 2010
10:16 am

John I think UF blows the doors off SC next year..and before you start with the SC returns all that talent line..they almost lost to a UGA team that had a QB and new D that had never taken a snap in a SEC game

I seem to remember them handling UGA pretty good.

JB

December 13th, 2010
10:22 am

I don’t think Tuberville has that much fight in him left. I think he just wanted to not end his career the way it ended up at AU.

jumbeauxtiger

December 13th, 2010
10:22 am

Murph,

We’re excited about Mettenberger. You can’t win championships without at least a servicable QB, something that LSU hasn’t had since Matt Flynn in 2007.

PoliticallyCorrectDawg

December 13th, 2010
10:23 am

Many times, coaches who find it necessary to act out on the sidelines, don’t have the patience or smarts to get it done in the overall strategy and game planning part of the job. Muschamp is a lifer assistant coach, most probably.

Somebody said nobody knew who Tressel was when he was hired. Now, we all know who he is: an over-rated coach at an over-rated school who is exposed at the end of each season cause he can’t win a bowl in a game with a team outside his powder-puff conference.

Arch Dawg

December 13th, 2010
10:23 am

Vandy has a huge endowment. They can afford to pay more for a coach than any other school in the SEC. If Vandy just comitted to having the best program in the SEC I assure you they could afford it.

BAMA dude

December 13th, 2010
10:24 am

Mike
December 13th, 2010
10:18 am

Didn’t Tuberville want and campaign for the Miami job? I thought he was a successful BCS level head coach?

Al Golden has to hit incentives just to max out at what TT makes every year.

JB

December 13th, 2010
10:25 am

Mettenberger lit it up in JC like Cam did…….Don’t think he’s the runner Cam is, but has the Arm. Richt overreacted with this kid because of all the other mess in Athens. We’ll live to regret not having him in Athens and LSU will be tickled to have him.

MURPHY

December 13th, 2010
10:25 am

JB,

I hope Richt can turn it around but im skeptical-VERY! If he goes,I want Mullen. I just dont have confidence he can fix this mess.Its a big mess!

BAMA dude

December 13th, 2010
10:25 am

Arch Dawg
December 13th, 2010
10:23 am

Vandy has a huge endowment

Anyone?

MURPHY

December 13th, 2010
10:26 am

JB,

Tuberville is looking old and I do think the times have past him.

DawginLex

December 13th, 2010
10:26 am

Maybe Muschamp will hire Bobo as his OC…………………………

:) :)

ronald

December 13th, 2010
10:26 am

wow and you can already pick florida to win the east next year! Maybe you should review your top 25 for this year. Wrong!

James

December 13th, 2010
10:27 am

Bama….

That’s pretty dang funny.

High Times Tider

December 13th, 2010
10:27 am

Amazing, Tony. You’re going to reprimand Florida for a suspect, but largely inconsequential announcement, but refuse to say what you really believe regarding Newton. The kid is dirty, and EVERYBODY but blind-loyalist AU fans know it. Instead, you and every other one of your ilk has been hiding behind the NCAA’s by-the-book decision. You could use your forum as something other than a paint-by-numbers template, you know.

MURPHY

December 13th, 2010
10:28 am

JB,

Mettenberg should shine at LSU.Can Les give him good coaching?

BAMA dude

December 13th, 2010
10:28 am

JB, don’t you think Lee or Jefferson would light up the juco kids too? They have talent but make bad mistakes and there’s no way to know if Mett will be any different. It could be the coaches’ inability to prepare them for the opponents’ schemes more than anything they do. They were both four star QBs coming in.

MURPHY

December 13th, 2010
10:29 am

DawginLex,

That would be our luck.Bobo goes to UF and wins a National Championship!

#2&

December 13th, 2010
10:29 am

integrity.Can we please just tear that part out of the Heisman award.Even if all of this msu/au/daddy stuff never proves to be true.It sure was NOT his daddy that did those things at UF.I will never,EVER see this guy in the same light as other Heisman winners,Bo,Walker,Tebow,ext….

JB

December 13th, 2010
10:30 am

Reading the Florida blogs this weekend, there was a lot of “talk” about some recruiting baggage Mullen might be carrying. Maybe they are just playing down one of their TOP wish list guys. Mullen sure did have MSU playing Physical this year, something we haven’t seen in Athens since 2007.

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JB

December 13th, 2010
10:34 am

If the time comes, I’m sure Foley will tell his friend McGarity why he “passed” on Mullen. There had to be a reason.

CF Gator

December 13th, 2010
10:35 am

Never heard much buzz coming out of Gville about Mullen during this process. I think it is due to (i) Mullen is not known as a good recruiter, and recruiting is critical to Foley: (ii) Foley not being sold on continuing to run the spread; and (iii) two years and 13-11 at MSU don’t exactly make Mullen a veteran head coach.

UGADawg83

December 13th, 2010
10:36 am

I still remember the player Will Muschamp. I’m not worried.

KR

December 13th, 2010
10:37 am

1. Yep. It’s always a roll of the dice when you move a coordinator up to the head coach position. However, Texas publicly showed they were willing to move him up someday.

2. Not so fast my friend. It’s a little early to be making those predictions.

3. Whatever. It really doesn’t matter to me. I wasn’t watching the Heisman Trophy ceremony, so I had to rely on internet forums to let me know the timing of the Muschamp announcement.

4. Miami got the best coach they could for the money they were offering.

5. Malzahn wants to be a head coach. Vanderbilt is apparently offering him that opportunity at close to 10x his current salary. Vandy fans are more forgiving than other fans in the SEC. Seems like a no-brainer.

He’ll probably coach in the BCS Championship Game; which will give him some additional big game experience to talk about while recruiting.

RxDawg

December 13th, 2010
10:37 am

“Malzahn would be wise to strike while his iron is hot”

DITTO

William C Smith

December 13th, 2010
10:38 am

Everyone on this board got there first job with no experience. It all depends on the work ethic of the person hired. Will’s job performance will be determined on the field not by our love or hatred of Florida. Not to compare but years ago a Packer franchise in decline hired a little known offensive co-ordinator from the New York Giants. His name was Vince Lombardi.

JB

December 13th, 2010
10:38 am

CF, then with that line of thinking, Muschamp is a gamble……But really, All head coach’s were assit. Coach’s at one time. Muschamp will not let the Gators come out of the tunnel sleep walking, that I know.

Gatorrock

December 13th, 2010
10:38 am

Bama Dude the UGA/SC game was a hell of lot closer than the SC/Auburn game tied until just a few mins left in the 4th if I remember correctly..

Sleeper Service

December 13th, 2010
10:42 am

I am amazed that people who use profane puns as a user name expect to be taken seriously. I’m also amazed that at 6-6 UGA still draws so many hate mongers. Personally, I think Muschamp will do a great job anywhere he goes and that includes UF.

SECWasteManagement

December 13th, 2010
10:42 am

Muschamp to hire Charlie Pell as his OC at Florida.

JB

December 13th, 2010
10:42 am

Muschamp is walking into a roster loaded with 4 and 5 star players. It’s his to do wonders with. No excuses like Dooley at Tenn who walked into a train wreck.

Beast from the East

December 13th, 2010
10:44 am

Very excited about the hiring of Muschamp! He’ll have some growing pains, as all new head coaches do, but he’ll be a tireless recruiter that can possibly open some in-roads into Texas and Georgia. He’ll bring a youthful enthusiasm to a prgoram that hasn’t had alot of fun the past 2 years.
Foley is the man!
Go Gators!

Gatorrock

December 13th, 2010
10:44 am

JB agreed his cupboard is loaded..still I think Meyer showed us how important a couple of great coordinators can be to a program…

BAMA dude

December 13th, 2010
10:44 am

Gatorrock
December 13th, 2010
10:38 am

Bama Dude the UGA/SC game was a hell of lot closer than the SC/Auburn game tied until just a few mins left in the 4th if I remember correctly.

Which Barn game? The one at home that they had to come from behind to win or the one that they won going away after a Hail Mary and a stupid play by Garcia opened the floodgates?

DIT

December 13th, 2010
10:44 am

JB,
I would have to say that CMR must win a minimal 9 games next year to stick around. I hope he does it, but I feel he will have a high bar to hit next year. Yes, if not, get MULLEN!

I’m still shocked that UF did not go after Mullen? There just has to be something behind the scenes for them to move so fast. Lets face it, UF could have gotten any coach they wanted. I guess I just question how fast they moved on it. Maybe to keep the current recruits? CWM I don’t think will be bad HC. He has been around long enough to get things going. It will be interesting!

zig

December 13th, 2010
10:44 am

This works out great for Richt and UGA. Muschamp is overrated and clearly couldn’t handle his duties this year is a very down and weak Big 12. UF f-ed up

ClinchPanther

December 13th, 2010
10:45 am

Stop your complaining about and worrying about who is coaching at florida. you all act like UGA is second class and UGA’s success depends on everything that florida does. Get done with it and get it out of the AJC!!!
including tony and you posters.

ga gator

December 13th, 2010
10:47 am

JB, good post; but I like the hire. As bad as Texas was this year, his D was still 7th ranked. Florida’s problem this year was they were young on D (sometimes with 5 true freshmen on the field) and they had an Offensive Coordinator and HC who insisted that the Spread was the correct offense even though Superman was gone. I bet Johnny Brantley is jumping for joy. I had heard 2 weeks ago he was going to transfer to Delaware (D2) to play under Flacco’s old coach his Senior year.

Beast from the East

December 13th, 2010
10:48 am

I would assume this was the move that Foley was considering last year when Urban “retired” for 24 hours. He moved very quickly and had a coach named within 72 hours. There’s no way he had time to make offers to others as many posters have insinuated. I believe Foley when he says that this was his first choice. It couldn’t have gone down that quickly, otherwise.

ga gator

December 13th, 2010
10:49 am

zig, funny all of the Dawg fans suddenly think he is not qualified when the last 2 years, those who were clammering for Richts head mentioned him as the HC. I guess if he was good enough to be Texas next HC in waiting and now UF’s it means that he is not qualifed. You guys crack me up.

CF Gator

December 13th, 2010
10:49 am

I agree, JB. It is a gamble, no way around it. But Foley is thinking long term, and I don’t think that 2 years of experience at MSU is significant enough to make a difference if he believed that Muschamp is the better long term hire.

UGA Insider

December 13th, 2010
10:56 am

Cam Newton cost Dan Mullen a job at UF. Foley wanted a clean break from the fiasco and Mullen would have prolonged the controversy. Dan Mullen just had too much baggage and it was time for UF to move on to an entirely new staff. My question is UF Insiders is: Why is CUM going to coach in the bowl game and why is he still going to have an office in the UF athletic department? I have known Will Muschamp since we were frat brothers together at UGA and there is no way he wants Urban anywhere near that campus. I see problems on the horizon with this.

Exley DAWG

December 13th, 2010
10:59 am

Sillly to make predictions for 2011 already. You don’t even know who the OC is yet.

Beast from the East

December 13th, 2010
11:01 am

I agree that it is WAY too early to be making any predictions about 2011. We don’t even know what the rosters are going to look like yet. I think Tony just wanted to be the first one to make a prediction. Well, I predict Vandy will win the East. There, I was the first (and only) one to make that prediction….LOL!

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Notthisyear

December 13th, 2010
11:06 am

Mullen was never the target for the Gators!!! is this really that hard to understand? If everyone else wants him? Fine,Go get him.Our AD gave you a hint at what we were going after last week and we got him.And please stop about how bad the Texas D was this year.How many times did that god awful O turn the ball over for their D to pick up the slack?

JB

December 13th, 2010
11:06 am

The culture in Athens has to change for us to beat “name” SEC schools again. Can Mark do it? I don’t know if it’s in his DNA. The Current DC for THE BEST TEAM IN THE NFC, who used to be our DC, is REALLY missed in ATHENS.I don’t think Mark has forgotten how to coach. I think a combination of poor Coordinators and a drop in talent since 2007 has done him in, and the conference has gotten better. I think it’s that simple.

Beast from the East

December 13th, 2010
11:08 am

JB,
Agreed concerning Richt. I hope he can turn it around. Too much turnover in coaching these days.

SEC_Analyst

December 13th, 2010
11:12 am

@UGA Insider

The situation with UM remaining in Gainesville is strange, to say the least. It reminds me of what Auburn did with Pat Dye after he got into trouble with Eric Ramsey. Dye has been the shadow HC at Auburn ever since. There’s no way I’d take that job with Meyer having an office next door to mine.

As for Tubby announcing that he “has no interest” in the Miami job, he played that one to death while he was at Auburn. Every time a major HC job opened he held a press conference to announce that he wasn’t interested — as if he had actually been offered the job. ;-)

David Granger

December 13th, 2010
11:13 am

I think Muschamp will be a fine head coach. Wish we had him here at UGA.
I’d hate to see Malzahn at Vandy. I do think he’d be a good head coach, but don’t think he’ll have the resources there to be real competitive…especially in the SEC. Sure can’t blame anyone for taking a $3 million a year contract, though, and I wish him luck if he does so.

JB

December 13th, 2010
11:14 am

Tubbs is lost in Texas….Those kids ask ‘Who’ when he visits……

CF Gator

December 13th, 2010
11:15 am

Two national titles later, it’s easy to forget that Urban Meyer wasn’t a risk-free hire. Yes, he’d been a head coach….for 4 years at Bowling Green and Utah (before Utah became a BCS-caliber program) and he ran a “gimmicky” offense that many said could never work in the SEC.

murfdawg

December 13th, 2010
11:16 am

I wonder if Jimbo Fisher and the FSU fans are scared to death that fl hired Muschamp?

The U hired someone who wears a tie to the games on Saturday. That is scary.

Looks like FSU will be back in full force. Was it a coincident that FSU lost Richt and White Sunglases and started a decline to mediocrity? Gators lose Mullen and Strong and struggle. The difference in the two programs is Bowden had the Intestinal fortitude to stay and correct the problems. UM ran hame and cried with tebag.

However, one bright spot for the gators, they own the dawgs. 7-5 and a win over UGA is going to be about the best fl will do for the next few years.

JB

December 13th, 2010
11:16 am

Malzahn to Vandy for 3mil……………Hello lotto…………He was making 40K 3 years ago coaching HS ball……….Pamla Anderson couldn’t get a bigger smile on his face

Notthisyear

December 13th, 2010
11:19 am

UM3 may be staying in Gainesville and close to Shands for a reason.

LHardingDawg

December 13th, 2010
11:19 am

I don’t believe Florida wanted the baggage Mullins was going to bring with him. They, Florida, finally have cut the ties with Cam and possibly any investigation that might include Cam, Mullins, and Mrs. Mulling. I’ve heard that Mrs. Mullins was the person Cam told about the “money is too good at Auburn”. I believe it was a good hire and wish Will the best of luck in all his games except one.

dawgfacedboy

December 13th, 2010
11:19 am

He’s an unproven HC so yeah, I would say it’s a risk. Will he be successful? It would take a hell of an effort to NOT be successful at Florida nowadays. They are oozing with talent.

winterDawg

December 13th, 2010
11:20 am

I don’t think that Mushcamp is a bad hire by any means. I just think it curious that they didn’t interview anyone else and not sure why Mullen wouldn’t have been a big favorite. Florida is a program that can pick whomever they would want. So why not interview several candidates and then decide? You can’t tell me that Mushcamp is head and shoulders above every other coach when he hasn’t even been a head man before.

JB

December 13th, 2010
11:22 am

To be honest, After five loses this year, I think Meyer was looking at 4 or 5 loses next year. He did not have the players in place to run that offense…..His rep was about to be tarnished….did he leave 15 mil on the table ? He would of been FIRED next year after losing 4 or 5 games and the buyout would have been 15 big ones. Just asking !

JT

December 13th, 2010
11:23 am

A lot of people want to focus on Texas being 5-7 this year, but the Longhorns’ defense was ranked 7th in the country in total defense. Seems to me the offense was the bigger issue this past year in Austin than the D. Muschamp’s guys may not have been playing up to the standard set in previous years, but it seems to me the D was the lone bright spot in a season Texas fans would like to forget.

TrishaDishaWarEagle

December 13th, 2010
11:23 am

I notice a lot of people saying AU will suck next year because we lose Cam, Nick, and the best O line in college football..but you forget that playing in the NC game brings big time recruits. But either way, the math doesn;t always work out..after all, UGA had their best player this year, and stll finished 6-6…

Joe Bob Thibodaux

December 13th, 2010
11:24 am

Tony, You might be correct, but I am currently more aligned with Skitty Fritty, Voice of Reason, JB, JumboTiger, and SEC_Analyst. I believe Muschamp is overrated. As much as the UGA bloggers disagree, I believe that over the next year or two they will be happy that Coach Richt remains the head Bull Dog.

JBT

SEC_Analyst

December 13th, 2010
11:24 am

@JB

If Meyer is retaining an office, then one has to assume that he is still on Florida’s payroll.

#1 DAWG in bama

December 13th, 2010
11:24 am

Really Tony florida will win the sec in 2011 hell I guess we should not even play a game and sit the season out since we are doomed before 2011 is even here. Sorry im not drinking your koolaid GO DAWGS!!!!!!! win it all in 2011.

JB

December 13th, 2010
11:25 am

Trish…………..Is there cash left for this years class ?

schmeckdawg

December 13th, 2010
11:25 am

Florida fans, IMHO, I think the fact that CUM is still going to have an office in the athletic department was a HUGE deterent in you guys not landing a BIG TIME head coach. Just saying!

Red Harrison

December 13th, 2010
11:25 am

Blah blah blah. All this talk about “this means this” and yah yah yah. Will is from central Fla, and his wife’s family is there, too. And he co-owns a beach house down there with guess who – Jimbo Fisher. Better job, closer to home, near my beach house. Duh Sometimes the answer is not complex.

JB

December 13th, 2010
11:27 am

SEC Analyst…………….4 mil a year consultant?

SEC_Analyst

December 13th, 2010
11:27 am

@TrishaDishaWarEagle

You have a point regarding the recruiting bonanza that a BCS Title Game typically brings. That said, the recruiting services are showing a drop-off in AU’s recruiting compared to the previous two years. We’ll just have to wait and see.

Corrine Brown up in heah - Go Gatuhh!

December 13th, 2010
11:28 am

Mush he gone be jus fine, he gone whup some Georga behine
and den afta that games thru, he gone whip up Tenesee too

1 2 3 4 5 – dem da gatuhs don take no jive!

MURPHY

December 13th, 2010
11:30 am

Beast from the east,

Im glad you are happy with Foley hiring Muschamp.I wouldnt be happy at all.Mullen was the man for the job.Muschamp will need to be carefull with all that enthusiasm as the Head Coach.I can see his mouth getting him in trouble.In no way will I pull against him to fail but the Gator Nation better be ready to be paitent with him.Winning wont come overnight-at least the winning you ar accustom too.Just happy Mullen wasnt hired.Hope he comes to UGA if Richt leaves and brings Diaz with him.

SEC_Analyst

December 13th, 2010
11:31 am

@Red Harrison

I don’t think anyone questions why Muschamp would take the job so much as they question why Foley would choose Muschamp.

@JB

To the best of my knowledge, Florida hasn’t announced Meyer’s new salary. I doubt that they will, but it is probably a matter of public record, isn’t it? Florida isn’t a private school.

Daytona Dan

December 13th, 2010
11:31 am

Meyer needs to return his salary for this year to Florida. He didn’t do the school or his players any favors by hanging on. Good riddance.

G8R GRAD

December 13th, 2010
11:31 am

Murphy:

“A Dawg leading the Gators!”
Turn around is fair play:
You got a Gator AD!
:-)

Red Harrison

December 13th, 2010
11:31 am

This just in: Auburn changing name from Tigers to the Cheetahs

MURPHY

December 13th, 2010
11:33 am

G8R GRAD,

I call foul! We will need 2 top recruits for Muschamp! lol

McGarrity, Muschamp, Smart...........

December 13th, 2010
11:33 am

Florida is the training ground for Leg Humpers.

schmeckdawg

December 13th, 2010
11:34 am

Corrine Brown up in heah – Go Gatuhh!

December 13th, 2010
11:28 am
Mush he gone be jus fine, he gone whup some Georga behine
and den afta that games thru, he gone whip up Tenesee too

1 2 3 4 5 – dem da gatuhs don take no jive!

Not without Corch Irvin Mayas, Percey Harvey and Tim Tivo!

Gatorrock

December 13th, 2010
11:34 am

TrishaDishaWarEagle…really you had the best college player money can buy. And by the way if you think Mullen not getting at least an offer from UF is a good thing for Auburn with the FBI investigation ongoing think about it real hard..you don’t talk to a former UF assist coach that now has head coaching experience and has spent 2 years building a pretty good program at a lower tier school. Could it be that UF wants to distance themselves as far away as possible to anyone who had a hand in anything to do with the recruitment of Cam Newton…not a black helicopter guy but really what else could it be..I think Will could end up being a great hire..but it is a bit of a reach.

SEC_Analyst

December 13th, 2010
11:34 am

Ha!

That’s a good one Red. That would still be better than what Ole Miss did with that “Bear” thing.

Bama Dude

December 13th, 2010
11:34 am

Ask Texas how replacing a QB and entire OL after a MNC game works out.

Notthisyear

December 13th, 2010
11:35 am

Yes,SEC_Analyst,UM3 is still with us and he still has his health insurance with UF too.Some of you may need to try and read between the lines.

ga gator

December 13th, 2010
11:35 am

SEC_Analyst, his salary will probably be paid by the Athletic Association which is a private non profit enterprise as it probably is at UGA also.

SEC_Analyst

December 13th, 2010
11:37 am

@ga gator

I don’t really care what they pay him, but I still think that it’s just STRANGE to keep an old HC around campus while bringing in a whole new coaching staff. Does Muschamp even get to make his own hires for assistants?

PapaDawg

December 13th, 2010
11:39 am

To hire a ex Dawg and pass over Mullen could be a good soap opera at Fla. next year

SEC_Analyst

December 13th, 2010
11:40 am

Has anyone heard who will replace Muschamp at Texas? Is it possible that they will hire a new HC before this is over?

MURPHY

December 13th, 2010
11:40 am

SEC_Analyst,

Just saying: UGA kept Dooley around. Not that It did a dang bit of good though

how2fish

December 13th, 2010
11:41 am

@ SEC_Analyst I couldn’t agree more keeping the old HC on campus unless he is now the AD is very strange.

SEC_Analyst

December 13th, 2010
11:41 am

MURPHY,

Dooley was the AD, wasn’t he?

ga gator

December 13th, 2010
11:41 am

SEC_Analyst, I agree it is sort of strange until you read between the lines in Foley’s comments. It was done to assist in the current recruiting class and also in appreciation for what Meyer has accomplished. Meyer has publicly stated that he loves the hire and has run into Muschamp numerous times while recruting. He said that he will do anything that he is asked by the new coach or but out if requested. My guess is, and I dont say this to be funny, is that Meyer (who is not the most truthful guy) will end up as the HC in Denver next year.

SEC_Analyst

December 13th, 2010
11:43 am

I wonder what Urban’s title is? Pat Dye was given a title something like “Special Assistant to the President” or something, wasn’t he?

gdawginkalamazoo

December 13th, 2010
11:43 am

Will told Mack that he was “off to coach those m&th@rf%ck*ng gators”. Good luck to him. Not the hire that everyone thought it would be. If I am correct Muschamp was the “first head coach in waiting” then Jimbo Fisher took the title. So the HIC position is 1-1.

I think the timing of the announcement by Florida speaks volumes to their opinion of the integrity of Cam Newton. IMO you just can’t read it any other way.

MURPHY

December 13th, 2010
11:43 am

SEC,

Yes he was.

how2fish

December 13th, 2010
11:43 am

MURPHY UGA kept Dooley as AD and was a damn fine AD, perhaps a better AD than Head football coach.Keeping CUM around is at best awkward at worst counter productive..

SEC_Analyst

December 13th, 2010
11:44 am

@ga gator

My guess is Notre Dame.

Beast from the East

December 13th, 2010
11:44 am

MURPHY,
I’m not that high on Mullen as a HC. From what I’ve heard in Gainesville, he is not that great of a recruiter. I’m not sure how true that is but I just felt like we needed a change in direction. I was thinking he would look hard at Harbaugh or Peterson but I trust Foley’s judgment. He panicked somewhat when he hired Zook, but I feel confident that he learned a vaulable lesson.
I’m sure it will take Muschamp a couple of years to get his system in place with the right players. I, for one, am willing to be patient. I believe this is a long-term hire like Foley mentioned at the presser for Urban’s retirement. Transition is always tough, but I’m really excited about the future in Gainesville!!!

Mike Smith

December 13th, 2010
11:45 am

A prediction for Florida to win the East…SHOCKING, Tony. Seriously, lets not run down the usual BCS hype bandwagon here. South Carolina has to be the favorite with what they have returning next year. It remains to be seen how many players Georgia loses early to NFL. Either way, in Grantham’s and Murray’s second year, they should be better.

Seriously, try to come up with an original pick between now and September. Muschamp doesn’t even have an OC yet. Applewhite isn’t exactly Gus Malzahn either. Theoretically UF’s defense should be better, but then again so should’ve Auburn’s under Chizik. That hasn’t happened. Not only that, the offensive recruits are designed around Urban’s spread. Even the great Urban Meyer did not tear up the SEC in his first season, nor did he win the East. There is just too many variables in the equation to lean back on the UF default prediction for the East.

ga gator

December 13th, 2010
11:46 am

I dont think the announcement had anything to do with Cam. UF released it because Tebow spilled the beans on Twitter after his agent (Jimmy Sexton is also Muschamps agent) told him. Tebow kind of forced them to either deny it or go ahead and make it public.

SEC_Analyst

December 13th, 2010
11:47 am

@ga gator

That sounds nice — just staying around to help out…

I don’t understand how a coach who quit can help keep any recruits at Florida. Do you think he told them that he was planning to leave while he was recruiting them?

gdawginkalamazoo

December 13th, 2010
11:47 am

G8R GRAD, actually McGarity was a bulldog before he went south.

SEC_Analyst, I think “Bag Man” was Pat Dye’s title.

Barnhart is an idiot

December 13th, 2010
11:48 am

What about Mullen in the ‘08 BCS Championship, you Gator-hating moron???

Red Harrison

December 13th, 2010
11:49 am

Am I the only one that thought that Heistman show was just creepy? Awkwardly creepy.

Anyway, Knock knock – Who’s there?
Cam – cam who?
Cam-an Islands is a good place to stash $200k

SEC_Analyst

December 13th, 2010
11:50 am

@Red Harrison

What???

You actually watched it?

icallbs

December 13th, 2010
11:50 am

JB, Overreact to Mettenberger? Don’t think so. Unless of course you don’t think character matters, in which case you must be a HUGE Cam/Cecil fan. I’ve not given up on the idea that you can have a contending SEC football team that follows basic societal rules. Serial lying/stealing/cheating and sexual misconduct should never be tolerated. Other bone-headed stuff 18-21 year olds are going to get into can be dealt with and tolerated to a point.

Notthisyear

December 13th, 2010
11:51 am

Awkwardly creepy.That is EXCELLENT!

Atlanta Gator

December 13th, 2010
11:53 am

SEC_Analyst

December 13th, 2010
11:53 am

@icallbs

I am old, but when I was younger, “sexual misconduct” was right at the top of the list of trouble that 18-21 year olds got into. They just usually managed to keep it private.

ga gator

December 13th, 2010
11:53 am

Analyst, I didn’t say it was nice or even a good idea. Personally I am glad the Drama Queen finally stepped down. I coached a year too long (like Willie). Muschamp will not keep many on the current staff, maybe ask Addazio to stay on as a line coach but not coordinator and Chuck Heater as the DB coach because he has excelled. Both Addazio and Heater are good recruiters and the rest will be let go. Austin the current DC was probably the second worst in the SEC behind Choke Grantham.

Atlanta Gator

December 13th, 2010
11:53 am

Muschamp’s hiring as the Gators’ new ball coach? It’s a generation shift. As a senior at the Darlington in Rome, Muschamp considered walking on at both Florida and Georgia. Steve Spurrier was then in his second year at Florida, and Muschamp chose to play for the home state Dawgs and earned a scholarship. Good for him. That was 20 years ago. Things have changed.

Bama Dude

December 13th, 2010
11:55 am

Count me among those finding it strange that Florida hired an assistant. Name the last top tier job that didn’t go to someone with HC experience. By top tier I mean Bama, ND, USC, OSU, Michigan. Not the Barn or Missy State.

Driving Ms Dooley

December 13th, 2010
11:56 am

Personally I hope that neither Gus Malzhan or Mike Leach take the Vandy job. Those are two coaches to fear. I’m sure many on this site will disagree because neither of them has the look of coach you should fear. But I think they are two of the best offensive minds in college football. And both of them bring the kind of X’s and O’s skill that can transform a perennial door mat into a team that can beat the big boys on any given Saturday. I’m not saying every Saturday and I’m not saying that Vandy would be a powerhouse, but in a league like the SEC, it’s nice to have at least one easy win on your schedule. And with either of those two offensively minded coaches, Vandy will become a team that you can’t pencil in the W anymore.

I wish they would bring back the fat, funny guy.

Atlanta Gator

December 13th, 2010
11:58 am

IMHO, the answers to two questions will ultimately determine Will Muschamp’s relative failure or success in Gainesville.

1. First, who does he hire as an offensive coordinator, and what scheme do they install? Gator fans have grown accustomed to a so-called “wide-open offense” and that has been consistent since Bob Woodruff and Doug Dickey drove us nearly insane in the 1950s and 1970s. Ray Graves in the 1960s presaged the return of Steve Spurrier in the 1990s Urban Meyer’s offense, through different in scheme, gave the fans what they wanted. Great defenses have won Florida’s championships, but great offenses have kept us happy in between.

2. Second, will Muschamp adapt to Florida and Foley’s zero tolerance for NCAA recruiting violations? I know nothing about Muschamp’s sense of playing by the rules; I hope he takes it as seriously as Spurrier and Meyer did. While this may elicit a chuckle or two from opposing fans, Florida was burned badly in the 1980s for letting an energetic young coach build a program without a lot of adult supervision from the AD or the university administration. The vow, ever since, has been “Never again.” Given the long history of recruiting shenanigans in the states of Alabama and Texas, I hope Jeremy Foley has made his expectations abundantly clear to Will Muschamp: intentionally violate the NCAA’s rules, and you’re gone. Never again.

SEC_Analyst

December 13th, 2010
11:58 am

Bama Dude,

I have to agree. I think that Muschamp has the potential to be a great HC, but Florida in 2010 is not the typical venue for discovering whether potential = results. I can’t see this hire as anything BUT strange.

Atlanta Gator

December 13th, 2010
11:59 am

As for the whole Dawg-coaching-the-Gators meme, both Dawgs and Gators need to get over that and fast. Muschamp is a 17-year professional football coach who has been a defensive coordinator for almost a decade. A great career opportunity was presented to him, and he seized it. Dawgs fans should be happy that one of their alumni receives that sort of respect from their chief rivals. (If you were Vanderbilt or Kentucky, you wouldn’t be so darn much fun to beat.)

Gators fans should understand that there have only been three Florida alumni in the history of the program to become the head football coach of the Gators: Dutch Stanley (1933-35), Doug Dickey (1970-78) and Steve Spurrier (1990-2001). Only Spurrier is remembered as a resounding success as the Gators’ head coach. This isn’t about alumni loyalty; it’s about hiring the right coach for right now.

I’m pretty sure Jeremy Foley knows that.

GeneralNeyland96

December 13th, 2010
11:59 am

Ok…I want an honest opinion from the Gator faithful on here….

My thoughts are that WM is a solid hire..very passionate & a great recruited, but….

The one thing that was “most broken” on the UF team this past year was the offense…..why do you go out and hire a defensive minded head coach? What kind of offense is he going to install???

Beast from the East

December 13th, 2010
11:59 am

Bama Dude,
Stoops @ Oklahoma? Richt @ UGA? Fisher @ FSU?

Bama Dude

December 13th, 2010
11:59 am

I for one would love to see Vandy make the puke orange their b*tch.

nicetouchuf

December 13th, 2010
11:59 am

ga gator @ 11:46, I think Tebow breaking the news was great! I hope people do think UF did this on purpose.I even know dawg/bama fans that smiled at it when it happened.Hell,If Tebow played along,The whole Cam thing must really,really stink to high heaven.

Red Harrison

December 13th, 2010
12:00 pm

time to go on the air Tony

MURPHY

December 13th, 2010
12:00 pm

Beast from the East,

Thats what I hear from alot of Gators-They have trust in Foley. I just dont think it was time to hire Muschamp for a head coaching position in the SEC.I could very well be wrong-god knows I have been before.I just dont see him turning this program around without severe hurddels to overcome.Will be interesting to see it unfold.I wish the Gator Nation all the best with this move.I still say Mullen was the man for the job.I wont waver on that opinion.

SEC_Analyst

December 13th, 2010
12:01 pm

Atlanta Gator,

I think it’s sweet that you take to heart the pledge to remain free from recruiting scandals at Florida. Best of luck with that.

Beast from the East

December 13th, 2010
12:01 pm

Bama Dude,
Also, Pelini @ Nebraska.

Bama Dude

December 13th, 2010
12:02 pm

Stoops is a good one, Fisher was a different situation, and UGA isn’t quite at the top tier. FSU really isn’t either for that matter.

DawginLex

December 13th, 2010
12:03 pm

Muschamp apparently is not going to run the spread. He favors an Alabama style of team with great defense and ball control and balance.

I think this shift favors UGA in the annual matchup because that is the offense UGa runs.

MURPHY

December 13th, 2010
12:03 pm

Just a curious thought-Why not hire Leach as the offensive coord at UF?

SEC_Analyst

December 13th, 2010
12:03 pm

Bama Dude,

Nor was Nebraska when they hired Pelini.

SEC_Analyst

December 13th, 2010
12:05 pm

@MURPHY

Leach greatly diminished his chances to be hired anywhere when he filed suit against ESPN.

MURPHY

December 13th, 2010
12:05 pm

DawginLex,

He better find some bigger running backs if he is going to do away with the spread.Demps and Rainey cant take the punishment.

Beast from the East

December 13th, 2010
12:05 pm

General,
I see your point, but this was about more than just fixing problems from the 2010 team. You could have just gone after someone like Malzahn if you wanted to get the offense going. This hire was about someone to come in and run the program for the long term. I’m hopeful that Foley made the right decision. I find it very similar to his hiring of Billy Donovan. Foley has proven to be one of the best AD’s in the business.

Atlanta Gator

December 13th, 2010
12:06 pm

BTW, Jeremy Foley prides himself on hiring the best young talent available: Billy Donovan, Becky Burleigh, Urban Meyer, Amanda Butler, Amanda O’Leary, Tim Walton, Kevin O’Sullivan, Rhonda Faehn. None were well established at big-time Division I programs before they were hired by Florida, all are now stars or rising stars. And for those of you with good memories, many, if not most, opposing fans questioned Urban Meyer’s hiring six years ago. Remember—-his gimmicky offense will never work in the SEC, where the players are bigger, faster and stronger? Meyer was not the “sure thing” that selective memory suggests.

MURPHY

December 13th, 2010
12:06 pm

SEC_Analyst,

How do you figure that?

MURPHY

December 13th, 2010
12:07 pm

Atl Gator,

Foley sure hired a bad a@@ baseball coach!

ga gator

December 13th, 2010
12:09 pm

MURPHY

That would be great, but Leach is a problem waiting to happen. Rumor is that Applewhite from Texas may follow him as OC. My personal preference would be D-3 HC from Jacksonville, Kerwin Bell who runs a wide open attack as the OC. Hell if Malzahn can go from a High School HC to an OC, I would expect a former UF QB and current D-3 HC could do it.

Beast from the East

December 13th, 2010
12:09 pm

Atlanta Gator,
Well said. Foley has continued to hire one great coach after another. I trust his judgment 100%. I think too many people were looking for a “rock star” type hire.

methinks

December 13th, 2010
12:10 pm

The Gators know a lot more about some things that everyone else.And that goes for former Coaches and former plAUyers.

Bama Dude

December 13th, 2010
12:10 pm

One other thing- Stoops was an outlier. Look at recent trends among the big schools, the ones that can pay $4MM or so. Bama-Saban, UF-Meyer, ND-Kelly, Mich-RichRod, OSU-Tressel, Texas-Brown. Every one of those guys had been the head man somewhere.

ga gator

December 13th, 2010
12:11 pm

MURPHY

December 13th, 2010
12:07 pm
Atl Gator,

Foley sure hired a bad a@@ baseball coach!

Along with Volleyball, Soccer, Gymnastic and Softball Coaches. Only bad hire was the Zooker and he was desperate by the time he was forced to hire him.

SEC_Analyst

December 13th, 2010
12:11 pm

@MURPHY

Because ESPN controls so much television coverage. AD’s should be wary about hiring someone involved in a court battle with the network. I’m not saying that ESPN would attempt to punish a team that hired Leach — I’m just saying that an AD might very well be concerned that they would. If you have another choice, then do you really even want that kind of PR? The lawsuit would come up in almost every press conference.

Alabama | MrSEC.com

December 13th, 2010
12:11 pm

[...] Cam Newton.3.  UF officials told Tony Barnhart that word was leaking out via social media and therefore they had no choice but to put out a statement during the ceremony.  Sure… because schools always want to make [...]

Driving Ms Dooley

December 13th, 2010
12:11 pm

Bama Dude

December 13th, 2010
11:59 am
I for one would love to see Vandy make the puke orange their b*tch.

Spoken like a fan whose team suffered that exact fate at the hands of Gus Malzahn. Still a little bitter are we?

MURPHY

December 13th, 2010
12:12 pm

ga gator,

I would pass on Kerwin Bell.To big of an ego to co-exist with Muschamp.Kerwin wants a Head Coaching job-not a coord position.

Atlanta Gator

December 13th, 2010
12:13 pm

SECC_Analyst—-

Yes, it has been twenty-one years and counting since the NCAA investigators rented rooms in Gainesville. In that same time, Alabama has been on probation four times, and every other SEC athletic program has been on probation.

Not one Gators sports program has been on probation in the 21 years. Foley runs a scrupulously clean program, and he requires his coaches to do the same. And, yes, that is sweet.

Knock on wood.

Bama Dude

December 13th, 2010
12:13 pm

Nah, Dooley I just dislike UT. Very, very much.

K-$

December 13th, 2010
12:14 pm

UGA will not win the SEC East ever again as long as Richts there. With a team comprised of 4 and 5 star players he went 6-6. With no AJ Green and a joke of a DC UGA will struggle to even win 6 next year.

MURPHY

December 13th, 2010
12:14 pm

SEC,

Dont mean to sound stupid-Just dont know-havent followed that situation. Why is Leach suing ESPN?

Puppet-Master

December 13th, 2010
12:14 pm

Driving Ms Dooley is a Big Orange fan.

Just not exactly the Tennessee shade of orange.

G8R GRAD

December 13th, 2010
12:16 pm

Doesn’t coach Meyer still have a kid in school in Gainesville?
Remember Foley hired Meyer over re-hiring Spurrier.
They are friends.
I suspect UF is happy to allow Urban an office, pay for his health care and encourage him to help out wherever the new HC thinks he could.
What’s not to like?

Bama Dude

December 13th, 2010
12:16 pm

You serious, Murph? You never heard about the whole Craig James incident?

MURPHY

December 13th, 2010
12:19 pm

Bama Dude,

Yeah I know about that Craig James deal .Just didnt hear really why he was suing ESPN-For what reason?

SEC_Analyst

December 13th, 2010
12:19 pm

@MURPHY

He is suing over ESPN’s involvement in his firing at Texas Tech.

@Atlanta Gator

Knock hard on that wood. This coaching change at Florida is a strange situation anyway you look at it. Best of luck maintaining that perfect record.

DawgByte

December 13th, 2010
12:19 pm

Will Muschump

Mean Machine

December 13th, 2010
12:19 pm

Tony, Coach Richt had better hope and pray your prediction that UF will win the SEC East does not come to fruition! Because I will tell you right now, if UGA does not win the SEC East next year, as well as beat UF, Richt should be fired. 8-4 or 9-3 next year ain’t gonna cut it! Enough is enough of this crap! And the fact that UF hired a Georgia man, is going to do nothing more than add fuel to the fire.

ga gator

December 13th, 2010
12:20 pm

MURPHY, you are correct about a lot, but Kerwin is a very humble guy. Sure he would like to be a D1 coach, but I think reality is beginning to sink in and he might be willing to go the OC coordinator route.

Driving Ms Dooley

December 13th, 2010
12:21 pm

Bama Dude

December 13th, 2010
12:13 pm
Nah, Dooley I just dislike UT. Very, very much.

Well Bama dude, I could’ve guessed that. And you definitely hate Auburn, and Georgia. And Florida. Hey, you’re not on the top of the heap anymore, what-a-ya-gonna do. Hate.

I don’t hate any team. I do however, have a disdain for some of their more obnoxious fans.

ga gator

December 13th, 2010
12:21 pm

I also forgot to mention one of Foley’s best hires: Greg McGarrity.

MURPHY

December 13th, 2010
12:21 pm

ga gator,

He isnt a humble guy.I have been around him some this past football season.Humble isnt the word I would use at all.He is a very good coach,but he will not want to be a coordinator.

Jeff

December 13th, 2010
12:22 pm

so FLA will win the east in 2011…back in bed with the gaytors I see tony. Tell me tony……who will be their QB…..never mind that we have Murray…..you seem to write with no thought on the big picture….just to put stupid remarks down…..and oh, by the way. I am glad they upstaged the Heismann. That Cam got the award makes it a laughingstock and a slap in the face of guys that won before him…..tell me Tony….HOW MUCH DID CAMMIES DADDY HAVE TO PAY???????????????????

Mooty Squarefinger

December 13th, 2010
12:22 pm

Anyone who thinks keeping Urban Meyer around the Florida football is anything but the wrong idea is truly clueless.

I disagree with Barnhart… Florida will NOT win the SEC East next year.

SEC_Analyst

December 13th, 2010
12:22 pm

@ga gator

I haven’t followed Kerwin’s coaching career, but I recall him being a helluva player in his day.

G8R GRAD

December 13th, 2010
12:23 pm

Oh, and let’s not forget Dr. Machen (UF’s President) was at Utah while CUM was there.
They enjpy a long standing professional (and presonal) relationship.

ga gator

December 13th, 2010
12:23 pm

Driving Ms Dooley, dont be so quick with that hate. UF had the worst team since 1989 and still came within beating Carolina who had their best since ??? of winning the East. Not predicting victory, but I like our chances better than anyone except maybe Carolina.

G8R GRAD

December 13th, 2010
12:23 pm

Thank you, Mooty.
Have a nice day!
(LOVE the name)

hop

December 13th, 2010
12:24 pm

this is the best news the dawgs have had in some time.
florida made a HUGE mistake with thishire, as muschamp has been a chump when playing uga at auburn and lsu.

the texas defense was horrible under muschamp as it was at auburn. the gators will pay BIG TIME for this awful hire and uga will be the big winner along with the best of the SEC EAST!

ga gator

December 13th, 2010
12:24 pm

SEC_Analyst, yep and he was a walk-on as was Muschamp. He was also a star in Gainesville while Will lived there in mid 80’s.

Atlanta Gator

December 13th, 2010
12:24 pm

Beast—-

Spurrier as coach was the closest thing to a “rock star” in my memory, and that was more for us older Gators who remembered him as a player. The students and younger fans didn’t really understand what he meant to Florida when he was hired in 1990.

Everyone needs to wake up and realize that even great coaches can’t deliver Division I championships every two or three years. What Spurrier did in his first seven years and what Meyer did in his six seasons was nothing short of remarkable. The days of one SEC school dominating the conference for 20 years, like Bear and Alabama did in the 1960 and 1970s, are over. The coaching and player talent is too deep, the teams all play 8-game SEC schedules, and recruiting is ferociously competitive. It’s unlikely that anyone will duplicate Spurrier’s run of 6 SEC championships in 10 years. Auburn will be fifth team to represent the SEC in 7 BCS Championship Games in the last 12 years. No other conference comes close.

ga gator

December 13th, 2010
12:25 pm

hop, since is the 7th ranked D terrible? I guess when you have Choke Grantham as your DC everyone else is crap.

SEC_Analyst

December 13th, 2010
12:28 pm

Atlanta Gator,

I was just rattling your chains regarding Foley. I don’t doubt his sincerity, but recruiting violations generally are caused by boosters outside of the University’s control. Florida has been lucky, in addition to being careful. I hope Cecil Newton hasn’t ruined that for you guys.

Atlanta Gator

December 13th, 2010
12:29 pm

Mooty et al—-

I suspect that Urban Meyer agreed to help with the recruiting transition when he and Foley discussed his resignation. Let’s try not make a bigger deal out of this than it really is. These comments start to smell like the usual SEC paranoid conspiracy theories . . . but while we’re starting rumors . . . how about Urban Meyer for Florida athletic director?

= )

MURPHY

December 13th, 2010
12:30 pm

ga gator,

I must agree with HOP on one remark. I know Im not worried one bit on the Muschamp hire.In my opinion I think UGA will finally be able to turn the tide in Jax because of this.Just my opinion.

A Profit

December 13th, 2010
12:30 pm

I can see the future. Will Muschamp the HC at FL. Kirby Smart the HC at AL & Mike Bobo the HC at GA.

sorryfolks

December 13th, 2010
12:30 pm

The Univ Of Florida is NOT going to just come out and tell you their former Head Football Coach has health issues.And may want to stay on their payroll to keep his insurance.AND why was it such a strange hire,WHY?? He was going to be the next Coach at Texas,But if the Gators hired him it’s a strange hire. BS!

BAMA dude

December 13th, 2010
12:30 pm

Driving Ms Dooley
December 13th, 2010
12:21 pm

Bama Dude

December 13th, 2010
12:13 pm
Nah, Dooley I just dislike UT. Very, very much.

Well Bama dude, I could’ve guessed that. And you definitely hate Auburn, and Georgia. And Florida. Hey, you’re not on the top of the heap anymore, what-a-ya-gonna do. Hate.

I don’t hate any team. I do however, have a disdain for some of their more obnoxious fans

Nope, don’t have any hate for UGA or Florida. Can’t stand the Barn or Tennessee though.

SEC_Analyst

December 13th, 2010
12:32 pm

@Atlanta Gator

Considering Urban’s recent health problems, it was pretty decent of them to keep him enrolled in the health insurance program. That might have been part of the reason for keeping him around.

AD huh? You think he’d want that job?

MURPHY

December 13th, 2010
12:34 pm

SEC,

If he wanted to get away from stress-The AD job wont help him with that,especially with a new hire at football coach.

MURPHY

December 13th, 2010
12:35 pm

Since the AD is an administrator cant he recruit as well?

Sean

December 13th, 2010
12:37 pm

Like the Gators were going to let Cam Newton have his own moment. And there’s no way Florida is winning the SEC East unless Tim Tebow has a mysterious fifth-year of eligiblity.

http://thebubblescreen.blogspot.com/2010/12/my-bcs-solution-old-school-plus-one.html

Scott

December 13th, 2010
12:37 pm

Florida made a smart hire with Muschamp. They know that in more years than not the SEC Championship is going to come down between Florida and Bama. Why not go get a Nick Saban protege who knows him best?

King Gator

December 13th, 2010
12:37 pm

I’m with Tony B. – Gators in ATL for SEC Championship Game next year v. Bama. Go Gators! Welcome to the Gator Nation Coach Muschamp!

MURPHY

December 13th, 2010
12:37 pm

SEC,

I keep hearing rumors of him(URBAN) cheating on his wife-any news on that?

SEC_Analyst

December 13th, 2010
12:38 pm

MURPHY,

The more I think about it, I don’t really buy the health insurance issue either. Urban can afford out-of-pocket medical expenses. It’s not like he was making minimum wage as Florida’s HC. It’s been a strange year all around. Who would have thought over the past few years that the SEC would be looking at this much of a coaching carousel in 2010. I’d have guessed that Mark Richt would be the first HC to leave, and he’s not going anywhere.

MURPHY

December 13th, 2010
12:39 pm

King Gator,

Muschamp going to make you look like Queen Gator.It will take 3-4 years for him to do that,if he is able to do it at all.

murfdawg

December 13th, 2010
12:39 pm

Bama dude,
Is Mike Price still available to coach? That was a top notch hire!

ga gator

December 13th, 2010
12:39 pm

MURPHY, time will tell about Muschamp, but I certainly think his pedigree light years ahead of what Zooks was and……………………….

Reverend Richt

December 13th, 2010
12:39 pm

Everyone’s program in the SEC continues to get better except for……………………………..? Go Dawgs! We’re going to dominate the Weedeater Bowl for the next ten years!

Driving Ms Dooley

December 13th, 2010
12:40 pm

@ Atlanta Gator
re: Everyone needs to wake up and realize that even great coaches can’t deliver Division I championships every two or three years. What Spurrier did in his first seven years and what Meyer did in his six seasons was nothing short of remarkable.

I agree with you on Spurrier. Not so much on Meyer, because his “non-Tebow” performance wasn’t so great. But I also agree that having a great coach may mean that you win the big one once or twice and you stay competitive the rest of the time.

ga gator

December 13th, 2010
12:41 pm

MURPHY,I keep hearing rumors of him(URBAN) cheating on his wife-any news on that?

I can just hear the answer on that one so I will answer it for you: He and Tebow have a purely platonic relationship.

King Gator

December 13th, 2010
12:41 pm

Murphy you’re cheating your hand, with your other hand! That is not a rumor!

Atlanta Gator

December 13th, 2010
12:43 pm

Mrs. Dooley—-Give credit where credit is due. Meyer’s 2006 national championship team was led by Chris Leak, not time Tim Tebow.

NoGaGator

December 13th, 2010
12:43 pm

As said before, it would have been a far safer choice politically for Foley to hire an established, top-of-the-line HC. Most of the talking heads were saying UF could have their pick. But if you go through those that the pundits mentioned, Musschamp was the best fit.

For example:
Harbaugh – waiting on UM’s buyout on RR which goes down after 12/31. That, and may want to follow big brother to NFL.
Stoops – always a contender but may be too comfortable and not enough fire (think modern-day Dooley after his 1 NC)
Gruden – rumored to be waiting for right NFL opportunity – maybe Cle if his buddy Holmgren pulls plug on Mangini
Peterson – how long to get up on SEC and its’ recruiting?
Patterson – see above
Mullen – a known commodity in Gainesville, which may be the needed explanation.

Musschamp, growing up in Gainesville and familiar with SEC, is the best fit of the above with the exception of the unknown adaptability to HC. Foley will provide him with every possible means for both of their success. Rest assured, Meyer will not be a nuisance. I don’t believe Meyer would want to be one and Foley wouldn’t tolerate it.

Atlanta Gator

December 13th, 2010
12:43 pm

ga gator—-Urban doesn’t call me for marital advice anymore.

Driving Ms Dooley

December 13th, 2010
12:44 pm

ga gator

December 13th, 2010
12:41 pm
MURPHY,I keep hearing rumors of him(URBAN) cheating on his wife-any news on that?

I can just hear the answer on that one so I will answer it for you: He and Tebow have a purely platonic relationship.

Yeah, but that’s just until they’re married. Tebow is saving himself.

ponks-in-TN

December 13th, 2010
12:45 pm

Come on Tony; I usually agree with you on the majority of the issues, but who gives a rat’s hind end if Florida’s announcement (or leak) of Muscamp coincided with Cam Newton’s Heisman announcement. For one, I think the Florida announcement was THE more important issue…!!!

Bama Dude

December 13th, 2010
12:46 pm

Yeah, murfdawg he’s probably available. Bama was in take_the_best_you_can_get mode then. Ugly days.

sectime

December 13th, 2010
12:47 pm

Either Florida knew exactly what they were up to releasing new coach information during the Heisman presentation, or their PR department is as capable as their offense. Florida thinks “class” is somewhere you really don’t have to attend. Sour grapes Gators!

Insider

December 13th, 2010
12:48 pm

Rumor is that Muschamp is set to name Richt the Team Chaplain’s job in Gainesville.

ga gator

December 13th, 2010
12:50 pm

sectime, are you stupid or just didn’t read. UF released it as official only after Tebow had tweeted it 3 hours earlier after he heard it from his agent (Jimmy Sexton) who is also Muschamp’s agent.

Atlanta Gator

December 13th, 2010
12:51 pm

Regarding the timing of the Muschamp announcement and the Heisman ceremony . . . . Does anyone really think this upstaged the Heisman presentation for Cam Newton. The timing, however, was a great way to get the attention of every Florida commitment and recruit who feared the worst when Meyer announced his resignation. Personally, I think the Florida sports information director deserves a gold star for the timing of the announcement.

Russ

December 13th, 2010
12:51 pm

You judge Florida for the timing of their announcement but ignored the “integrity” clause and voted for Cam Newton in the Heisman. You’re a hypocrit. God bless.

King Gator

December 13th, 2010
12:51 pm

Who cares when it was released.. good timing.. college football/sec fans tuned in for Cam’s Heisman and got the latest news in college football … It worked for me and I’m sure ESPN loved it. Go Gators!

Saint Simons wierd friend

December 13th, 2010
12:52 pm

Ok Tony, here it is:

Auburn will stink next year, Gus or no Gus. They had a one time deal (paid for) on the big stage, hope they enjoyed and and are allowed to play FBall next 5 yrs.

UF-
decent hire, they will be 2nd in east to UGA. UGA will win east next yr, USC will fall off again. Defense was not UF problem this year. Leadership maybe, Meyer head was dealing with rumors that have still not been reported but will soon come out. It aint’ is heart:) Well maybe, but not medically speaking.

Muschamp-
This is the ony article nationally/locally I have seen him be mentioned as ex-UGA player, which is odd. You would think that would be an interesting part to the news?

Atlanta Gator

December 13th, 2010
12:52 pm

Insider—-Thanks, but the Gators have plenty of their own former football players who have become ministers.

Bad Timing

December 13th, 2010
12:53 pm

The timing of the Muschamp hire was terrible. To break the news right in the middle of the Heisman trophy presentation was in poor taste. Then to put out a press release a few minutes after Newton won……most unusual. To an outside neutral observer it would seem Florida was trying to put a damper on Cam’s win. They wouldn’t do that on purpose…..would they???

dawgfan

December 13th, 2010
12:53 pm

So glad that it was Mustchamp!!! That means we can’t lose next year against the Gaytors!! Dawgs here we go! Barnhart is wrong, UGA will be SEC East champins next year. You read it first from dawgfan. Write it down.

Class dismissed.

King Gator

December 13th, 2010
12:54 pm

Muschamp hitting the Florida high schools this week..I’m sure he’ll be at the H.S. Football State Championships in Florida this weekend. Lots of talent on display and a good time to hit the ground running with recruiting. Go Gators!

PonGT

December 13th, 2010
12:54 pm

Nice article, insightful information, and a troubling prediction, which begs the question : Does Richt have to win the SEC and beat FLA to keep his job?

King Gator

December 13th, 2010
12:55 pm

dawgfan.. what’s it like to be drunk @ 12:54 pm on a Monday? Go Gators!

Atlanta Gator

December 13th, 2010
12:55 pm

sectime—-Actually, CLASS is something that every Gator athlete is REQUIRED to attend, and will get you benched if you don’t. But thanks for the snarky comment anyway.

hater

December 13th, 2010
12:55 pm

dawgfan the gaytors will continue against U G A Y. I think you predicted that the last 4 years dumbazz.

Bad Timing: Coincedence??

December 13th, 2010
12:55 pm

Just goes to show you the lack of class Jeremy Foley has displayed down there in Gainsville. Still bitter about losing Cam to Aubie. Urban the crier will never live it down….

Scott

December 13th, 2010
12:57 pm

I initially thought the timing of the announcement of the Muschamp hire and the Heisman trophy presentation was purely coincidental. If Florida did indeed time it with the Heisman then I congratulate them. Well done and Roll Tide!

King Gator

December 13th, 2010
12:57 pm

2 National Championships in 6 years – What does Urban have to live down? PWNED!

Sanford Drive

December 13th, 2010
12:57 pm

I agree dawgfan. UGA will win next year against the jorts. Dooley is still building and Visor Boy was lucky this year. Floriduh will be rebuilding for a couple of years. That gives UGA at least two years to right the rivalry and get our recruits in. It’s a great day to be a Georgia Bulldawg baby! Go Dawgs!

SEC_Analyst

December 13th, 2010
12:58 pm

@MURPHY

I’ve only heard those “mistress” rumors on blogs. Doesn’t mean they aren’t true, but I’ve been taking them with a grain of salt.

Beast from the East

December 13th, 2010
12:59 pm

Who cares when the announcement was made? Did anyone stop the presentation and ask Cam to go back to his seat so they could introduce the new Gator Head Coach? You guys crack me up!

Atlanta Gator

December 13th, 2010
12:59 pm

King Gator—-I think that was intended as satire. You know, like something a “typical” Dawg fan might say?

Saint Simons wierd friend

December 13th, 2010
1:00 pm

Kept on health rolls at UF cause he left 20 million on table, good trade off for UF

trust me its not health related, you guys can believe it all you want.

Rip Van Winkle

December 13th, 2010
1:00 pm

Sanford Drive, Humpers are delusional as usual and are in a 31 year nap.

King Gator

December 13th, 2010
1:00 pm

Florida does not rebuild .. they reload.. the Dawgs might get us every once in a while, but if they couldn’t win this year.. then when?? Go Gators .. continue to crush the Pups!

dawgfan

December 13th, 2010
1:00 pm

Queen Gaytor,

Just cause you got a lousy head coach is no reason to be rude. UGA wins the SECE, count on it. write it down. put it in stone.

Class dismissed.

Beast from the East

December 13th, 2010
1:00 pm

Sanford Drive,
I agree that UF will be rebuliding, but coming off of a 6-6 season, what do you think UGA will be doing?

Atlanta Gator

December 13th, 2010
1:01 pm

SEC_Analyst & MURPHY—-When do you think Urban Meyer had time for a mistress? I think that was probably a violation of the “best efforts” clause of his contract.

Urban Meyer Is A Spineless Weenie

December 13th, 2010
1:02 pm

Is Urban Meyer Behind Newton Story?
by Jay Coulter on Nov 5, 2010 5:29 PM CDT in Football

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Auburn Undercover.com senior editor Phillip Marshall is reporting this afternoon that Florida coach Urban Meyer is the person responsible for the Cam Newton pay-for-play story being leaked to the press over the past few days.

In the story, Marshall talks of a three-way phone conversation between Meyer, Miss State coach Dan Mullen and former Bulldog quarterback John Bond, who made news yesterday in a story for ESPN.com.

According to Marshall, Bond is quoted as saying that he and Mullen agreed that the Newton matter was closed after submitting all of their documentation to SEC Headquarters.

Meyer disagreed and told the two that he thought it needed to be reported to The New York Times and he was going to make the call. Pete Thamel, who wrote the Times piece is close friends with Meyer.

The story goes on to say that Bond agreed to be interviewed by ESPN.com only after it became apparent the story was going to break. Marshall writes that Bond “is distressed about the reaction, particularly the attacks on Newton’s character.”

Bond is quoted as saying, “(Meyer) is behind the whole thing.”

King Gator

December 13th, 2010
1:02 pm

Queen Gaytor,

Just cause you got a lousy head coach is no reason to be rude. UGA wins the SECE, count on it. write it down. put it in stone.

Class dismissed.

——

I’m sorry your stoned, not drunk ..my mistake. 18-3 v. Pups.. Go Gators!

Atlanta Gator

December 13th, 2010
1:02 pm

King Gator—-Yup. That’s definitely satire. No real Dawg fan is actually that delusional.

King Gator

December 13th, 2010
1:03 pm

Bond is trustworthy?? Why would Urban care, he ran Cam off the team.

Sanford Drive

December 13th, 2010
1:03 pm

Ripped Your Winkie – next year is looking great with the SEC East traditonal powers in rebuild mode, including the awful gaytor nation. You’ll see what a new coaches and schemes will do. You think this year was bad, just wait until next year. UGA will smoke the gators!

UFrolls

December 13th, 2010
1:05 pm

WoW! Will sure has started a ton of chatter.Funny how he is such a terrible hire.Like another poster noted,If everyone is up in arms about it? The Gators must have made the right choice.

Atlanta Gator

December 13th, 2010
1:05 pm

Spineless Weenie—-Your reliable source is “Auburn Undercover?” And just how much traction has that breaking news story received from credible journalists in the last 37 days?

Good grief. Next, you will be quoting “Tiger Droppings” or some such thing.

Urban Meyer Is A Spineless Weenie

December 13th, 2010
1:06 pm

Interesting Read. Puts weenie-head’s latest “retirement” in perspective…..

Meyer disagreed and told the two that he thought it needed to be reported to The New York Times and he was going to make the call. Pete Thamel, who wrote the Times piece is close friends with Meyer.

The story goes on to say that Bond agreed to be interviewed by ESPN.com only after it became apparent the story was going to break. Marshall writes that Bond “is distressed about the reaction, particularly the attacks on Newton’s character.”

Bond is quoted as saying, “(Meyer) is behind the whole thing.”

http://www.trackemtigers.com/2010/11/5/1796417/is-urban-meyer-behind-newton-story

King Gator

December 13th, 2010
1:06 pm

Smoke the gators? based upon what? UGA’s new strength coach? Georgia couldn’t beat the worst FL team in the past 15 years this year. With AJ and Houston leaving for the NFL… how does this team get better??

superDawg

December 13th, 2010
1:06 pm

Looking forward to next year in JAX. Murray will be better and we have good red shirts on both sides of the ball. The gators will be recovering from a bad year with a new head coach and assistants next year. Things are looking up for the Dawgs. I’m not going to predict to be SEC East champions but I think we win next year in JAX.

Atlanta Gator

December 13th, 2010
1:07 pm

“Ripped you Winkie?” LOL

Not sure what it means, but it sure sounds funny.

Rip Van Winkle

December 13th, 2010
1:07 pm

Sanford Drive

You are one stupid dumbass overhaul wearing delusional dog. UGA has been in a rebuilding mode since 2005. You think this year was bad for jawja wait until next year. But please dont fire Richt we love him in the SEC East.

Rip Van Winkle

December 13th, 2010
1:08 pm

superDawg, sure just like they did Zooks first year.

SEC_Analyst

December 13th, 2010
1:08 pm

@Atlanta Gator

I never said I believed the rumors. That said, not being a Gator fan, I wouldn’t dismiss the rumors out of hand. Sometimes rumors are just rumors — sometimes they are the first reporting of an actual story. I’ll be surprised if this one turns out to be anything more than a rumor. The whole issue of Urban Meyer’s decline since last year has to be one of the most bizarre stories in CFB. Florida shouldn’t have been quite as bad as they were this year. Looks like they reloaded with blanks.

Urban Meyer Is A Spineless Weenie

December 13th, 2010
1:09 pm

Are you denying the conversation took place Atlanta Gator? You saying that Coulter’s lying?

ga gator

December 13th, 2010
1:09 pm

Oh well, it seems like Muschamp is a mistake and UGA and Richt will continue their dominance.

BAMA dude

December 13th, 2010
1:10 pm

Somebody is quoting Track ‘em Tigers? It’s one thing to look at the SBNation sites for info about the team they cover but they don’t know anything about matters such as that. They only have access to the same info we do, and Jay Coulter is a bumbling idiot anyway.

ga gator

December 13th, 2010
1:11 pm

Urban Meyer Is A Spineless Weenie

where is the link? Personally I think that Meyer is a drama queen and I am glad he is gone.

Atlanta Gator

December 13th, 2010
1:11 pm

Actually, there’s an alternative story circulating that Meyer is the one who smoothed Cam Newton’s transfer out of Florida. Interesting. I guess anyone can have an anonymous source.

Urban Meyer Is A Spineless Weenie

December 13th, 2010
1:12 pm

Weenie-head kept pushing his buddy Thamel to run the story, even after Mullen said to drop it. Why would he do that, and what was his reasoning?

DIT

December 13th, 2010
1:12 pm

Is there anyone as tired as I am hearing about the Cam Newton? It’s over with. Let’s move on. Heck, I’m not sure if they timed the hiring announcement just brfore or not. What’s the big deal! I have to agree that if so, it was a pretty cleaver move on their parts. It won’t take away from Cam getting his award, but, as stated, it lets recruits know that they have a new coach!

Sanford Drive

December 13th, 2010
1:14 pm

Ripped you Winkie – and you’re a jort wearing, toothless, mullet. Can’t wait to post the score every day after you take your beating in JAX. We’ll have a year long celebration. Since Teblow left what has floriduh done? Right! You can shut your pie hole now. Enjoy your new coach. LMAO

Atlanta Gator

December 13th, 2010
1:14 pm

SEC_Analyst—-I was making a joke. I do that sometimes. Really.

King Gator

December 13th, 2010
1:15 pm

Who cares .. UGA is going to the Liberty Bowl to play Central Florida.. now that’s big news!

BAMA dude

December 13th, 2010
1:15 pm

Agreed, DIT. I’m sure the Heisman Trust is thrilled that most people felt that way about their award too. Most people had to be thinking, “Good. He got it, the speculation is over, get this story off my TV please.”

Urban Meyer Is A Spineless Weenie

December 13th, 2010
1:16 pm

Bama Dude why would Meyer push Thamel to run the story, even after Mullen said it was dead? Someone was seething with jealousy, it’s pretty obvious. Track em tigers is irrelevant. If you believe Bond about Cecil Newton, then why won’t you believe his account here? HE IS QUOTED DIRECTLY and the story hasn’t been retracted or discredited at all

gdawginkalamazoo

December 13th, 2010
1:16 pm

Atlanta Gator, I will only believe those rumors if they are reported on TMZ first. When reading anything that starts with “as reported on TMZ” I grab the salt shaker and have a few grains.

King Gator

December 13th, 2010
1:16 pm

What’s the “street value” of a signed Liberty Bowl jersey? Somebody text AJ and his psuedo-agent. I’d like to buy one for a friend who is a hapless Dawg fan.

Beast from the East

December 13th, 2010
1:18 pm

weenie,
What if Meyer (or anyone else) did leak the” pay for play” story? Does that make the story any less true? Cecil has admitted it to the NCAA.

ga gator

December 13th, 2010
1:19 pm

spineless

I hope you are not saying that when someone leaks a crime that they are wrong? Newton’s dad did wrong and a greedy preacher should be exposed just like anyone else that breaks the rules. Of course since Newton went to Auburn I guess the guy who reported the rule breaker is considered the bad guy.

how2fish

December 13th, 2010
1:19 pm

K-$ really never again? He darn near beat the East Champs with a QB and a new D that had never taken a SEC snap till that day…..and no A.J Green too.Troll on Bug.

Atlanta Gator

December 13th, 2010
1:19 pm

Sanford Drive—-Tim Tebow has been gone precisely one season. Tough to say where the Gators will be two, five or ten years from now. I mean Herschel left for the USFL in 1983, and UGA has never been the same, either, right? LOL

Steve Spurrier graduated in ‘67, Danny Wuerffel in ‘97, and Tim Tebow in ‘10. I think the Gators will be just fine, thank you. But thanks for your concern.

Urban Meyer Is A Spineless Weenie

December 13th, 2010
1:21 pm

I believe this is the real reason weenie-head quit. HE KNOWS that all tracks to the Cam smear campaign lead to Gainesville. Then they JUST so happen to coincide their new “hire” during the Heisman Trophy announcement? This stinks to high heaven…..

Atlanta Gator

December 13th, 2010
1:21 pm

gdawg~zoo—-Ah, words of wisdom from the German shepherd of the canine clan.

Beast from the East

December 13th, 2010
1:22 pm

weenie,
Are you wearing a tin-foil hat as you type?

BAMA dude

December 13th, 2010
1:22 pm

Urban Meyer Is A Spineless Weenie
December 13th, 2010
1:16 pm

Bama Dude why would Meyer push Thamel to run the story, even after Mullen said it was dead

Did you see the date on that article? November 5. I, along with others, have shared our opinions on the whole matter. Feel free to scroll back through Tony’s archives if you would like to know what we think. No need to discuss it any more.

gdawginkalamazoo

December 13th, 2010
1:23 pm

King Gator, I already bought that jersey off of eBay. “Buy it Now” $2,000 plus shipping and handling. I’ll get him to sign it once he is a Detroit Lion.

Really, on the timing of the announcement being scrolled, ESPN had some say in that didn’t they?
If you are watching the Heisman award ceremony watch the damn ceremony why worry about who Florida has hired as a coach. People can wait the 3 hours can’t they?.

Atlanta Gator

December 13th, 2010
1:23 pm

You know, it’s tough to take anyone seriously who calls himself a “Spineless Weenie.” Definitely funny, though.

King Gator

December 13th, 2010
1:24 pm

Urban Meyer Is A Spineless Weenie = biggest moron on the blog today! just saying..

Atlanta Gator

December 13th, 2010
1:25 pm

gdawg~zoo—-What the heck are you talking about? Everyone knew who was going to win the Heisman. No one knew who was going to be the next Gators head coach. This just in —- BREAKING NEWS from your sports network of record!

ga gator

December 13th, 2010
1:26 pm

Urban Meyer Is A Spineless Weenie ??

So what about anything that Florida MIGHT have released about Cam is not true? He stole a laptop and cheated on exams and was basically not going to play in Gainesville. Quit complaining about the truth. You wanted Cam, you got him, you got one year in the spotlight now go back to being irrelevant in the SEC West.

Ponyexce$$

December 13th, 2010
1:26 pm

I thought it was funny what those guys at SMU said during their troubled times. DENY,DENY,DENY.If anyone asks,DENY it.And,One of their boosters saying,If they are going to cheat,Then I will show them how to cheat.

King Gator

December 13th, 2010
1:26 pm

AJ Green in Detroit, that makes sense.. they love to draft WR’s and him with Stafford and C Johnson would be pretty tough. I hope he ends up in St. Louis.. They need him and Bradford has looked pretty good this year all things considered. Green’s going to be a star in the NFL. Go Gators!

Urban Meyer Is A Spineless Weenie

December 13th, 2010
1:27 pm

You work for the NCAA now? If I’m not mistaken they have only determined that “money was discussed”.They also said the “solicitation” was unsuccessful and that no money changed hands. They have pored over all the Newton’s financial statements over and over again. Rogers is the criminal here, Bishop Newton is just his pawn. That doesn’t excuse what Cecil did, it was morally reprehensible, but not neccessarily against the law. Especially if the plan was never enacted.

Atlanta Gator

December 13th, 2010
1:27 pm

Beast—-I understand aluminum is much better at warding off the CIA’s satellite dust.

Mongo

December 13th, 2010
1:29 pm

Mongo is just pawn in game of life.

Rev. Newton

December 13th, 2010
1:30 pm

Don’t look at me. I’m with Mongo.

Beast from the East

December 13th, 2010
1:31 pm

AG,
Nice to know. Look out for the black helicopters!

Urban Meyer Is A Spineless Weenie

December 13th, 2010
1:33 pm

If we wanted to play moral police half of the SEC would be locked up, including most of UGA’s roster and half of Florida’s. I just laugh when folks say the NCAA let AU “off easy”. They have NEVER been lenient towards Auburn whatsoever. They love to use their hammer and if they find dirt they almost ALWAYS come down HARD!! The fact is there’s nothing there and weenie-head tried to beat a dead horse. Then he got caught and “resigned” before the sht hit the fan….

Pitbull

December 13th, 2010
1:34 pm

I also breathed a sigh of relief when they didn’t get Mullen.

Will is about to learn about the stress of being the head guy and it is 50-50 if he will hold or fold.

I was also wondering if UF is facing an NCAA investigation with Meyer dropping out so suddenly (again).

Mongo

December 13th, 2010
1:34 pm

Mongo like the nice Beast man. Mongo like beans, too.

Urban Meyer Is A Spineless Weenie

December 13th, 2010
1:35 pm

King Gator= Biggest Gator fan in denial on the blog today!
Just sayin (Wasn’t that so cute?)

King Gator

December 13th, 2010
1:35 pm

Weenie- the NCAA has come down harder on AU than Terry Bowden did on his secretary/mistress back in the day. War Cheating! Go Gators!

Mongo

December 13th, 2010
1:35 pm

Mongo not like smarty Spineless Weenie. Spineless Weenie smell like beans.

KR

December 13th, 2010
1:36 pm

BAMA dude: Mike Shula to UAT comes to mind.

MURPHY

December 13th, 2010
1:36 pm

OK I see Im way behind since my last post.

All non Dawg fan’s-I want to be on record as a non-dellusional Dawg fan.I DO NOT see us being SEC Champs next year! No way! No how! I see UT or Carolina taking the crown for the next 2 years.

I want to go on blog record as having no issue with the timing of the Muschamp announcement.I find it hillarious that they released it right before the Heisman announcement.Only in the SEC!

CalvinB

December 13th, 2010
1:36 pm

UF plays at USC next year. Spurrier and USC win the East, again. UF (nor UGA nor UT) cant tackle Lattimore.

MURPHY

December 13th, 2010
1:37 pm

BAMA dude,

I see the kids out on break are on the blog early today.No more constructive blogging!

Atlanta Gator

December 13th, 2010
1:38 pm

One that note, it is time for me to depart. Have fun with the anonymous rumors, y’all.

I, for one, am sticking with Foley on the Muschamp hire. I think it’s solid. Enough said.

King Gator

December 13th, 2010
1:38 pm

Denail of what? Enjoy your good fortune of having Cam Newton this year and pipedown. He’s not coming back.. NFL signing bonus will be more than AU’s “retention bonus” .. but, he was worth every penny and then some. Go Gators!

BAMA dude

December 13th, 2010
1:39 pm

Urban Meyer Is A Spineless Weenie
December 13th, 2010
1:27 pm

You work for the NCAA now?

I do. We currently have an opening for an Accusation Squashing Specialist (A.S.S.) in SE Alabama. If interested, you must immediately pack and drive to Lee County. This is an important position that will be paid well in cash and cattle. Only stipulation is that you must never, ever grace the Barnhart blog again.

MURPHY

December 13th, 2010
1:39 pm

Atl Gator,

Good luck with Muschamp.

Mongo

December 13th, 2010
1:41 pm

Mongo like BAMA dude. BAMA dude make Mongo laugh.

BAMA dude

December 13th, 2010
1:41 pm

KR
December 13th, 2010
1:36 pm

BAMA dude: Mike Shula to UAT comes to mind.

Yeah, yeah. Hires while under scholarship restrictions and bowl bans don’t count.

MURPHY

December 13th, 2010
1:43 pm

BAMA dude,

Appears your favorite blogger has come today to irrate you!

Mongo

December 13th, 2010
1:43 pm

Mongo not so sure about MURPHY. MURPHY make fun of Mongo in grade school. Now Mongo want to hit MURPHY.

BAMA dude

December 13th, 2010
1:44 pm

Could be Murph. Who knows?

Notthisyear

December 13th, 2010
1:44 pm

If I’m not mistaken,The good Bishop said,It will not be free THIS TIME.So why would people say the dirt points back to Gainesville,FL? That is ridicules.And if AU has nothing to hide why are their fans just all over themselves in defensive mode?? Cause its a Miss St problem,right? RIGHT? I CAM hear you.

MURPHY

December 13th, 2010
1:45 pm

Mongo,

DONT ADDRESS ME.I HAVE NO USE FOR YOUR IDIOTIC REMARKS. DO IRRITATE ANOTHER BLOGGER!

Bama Dude Is A Weenie

December 13th, 2010
1:46 pm

If I were king of the NCAA, I would not only saturate Alabama with investigators, I would set up a branch office in Tuscaloosa.
In Alabama, cheating is as much a part of the football lore as the houndstooth hat worn by Bear Bryant and that purty dress worn by Mike DuBose’s secretary.

Alabama has seen it all over the last 20 years. Shady loans. Athletes illicitly accepting cash payments from agents and boosters. Multiple probations. Postseason bans. Scholarship reductions. Lack of institutional control. You name it, the Crimson Tide has done it.

Welcome to Alabama, where the NCAA probations are nearly as prevalent as national championships. Actually, in the last decade, Alabama has recorded more NCAA probations (three) than it has national titles (one).

Bama Dude Is A Weenie Head

December 13th, 2010
1:46 pm

Roll Tide?

Alabama’s rallying cry should be, “We Lied!”

And maybe, too, Alabama should get rid of its elephant mascot and replace it with a pig.

What better animal to symbolize the dirtiest, stinkiest program in recent NCAA history.

MURPHY

December 13th, 2010
1:46 pm

BAMA dude,

Yep the kids are playing with moms computer again.

BAMA dude

December 13th, 2010
1:46 pm

Notthisyear
December 13th, 2010
1:44 pm

If I’m not mistaken,The good Bishop said,It will not be free THIS TIME.So why would people say the dirt points back to Gainesville,FL? That is ridicules

Who is “That” and who does he or she ridicule? That doesn’t sound like a nice person to me.

anonymous

December 13th, 2010
1:47 pm

Forrest Gump, Alabama ‘67
Mongo, Auburn ‘69

Bama Dude Is A Weenie Head

December 13th, 2010
1:47 pm

Alabama has seen it all over the last 20 years. Shady loans. Athletes illicitly accepting cash payments from agents and boosters. Multiple probations. Postseason bans. Scholarship reductions. Lack of institutional control. You name it, the Crimson Tide has done it.

BAMA dude

December 13th, 2010
1:48 pm

Murphy, what kills me is that it keeps quoting Mike Bianchi… who was one of the six outspoken writers who left Cammy off their ballots.

King Gator

December 13th, 2010
1:48 pm

Weenie lives in a glass house!

Bama Dude Is A Weenie Head

December 13th, 2010
1:49 pm

It should also be noted that the iconic Bear Bryant may not have ever been caught cheating himself, but he tutored some of college football’s biggest outlaws.. Charley Pell, Danny Ford and Jackie Sherrill all were Bear disciples who went on to provide some of the most unique interpretations of the NCAA rulebook in the history of college football.

Langley

December 13th, 2010
1:50 pm

Folks, just be patient. We had to keep the money in the SEC until after the Bowl season. After that, well frankly, it does not look good for AU.

KR

December 13th, 2010
1:50 pm

BAMA dude wrote:

Yeah, yeah. Hires while under scholarship restrictions and bowl bans don’t count.

I must have missed that stipulation in the initial question. To be honest, I thought you’d come back with “Doug Barfield” as your reply. But that was a LONG time ago…

MURPHY

December 13th, 2010
1:51 pm

BAMA dude,

IT is right. That should tell you all you need to know! Quotes Mike Bianchi-this sportswrite is one of the worst in the country!

MURPHY

December 13th, 2010
1:54 pm

BAMA dude,

Blog with you later.Goodluck with our buddy.

Bama Dude Is A Weenie Head

December 13th, 2010
1:54 pm

Just to compare: Look how trivial the Eric Ramsey violations are compared to Bama boosters did in their recruitment of Albert Means

Ramsey:
1. During a December 1989 visit by the student-athlete to the representative’s residence, the representative provided between $400 and $500 cash and four new tires (approximate value of $350) for the young man’s automobile.

2. During a February 1990 telephone conversation, the representative directed the student-athlete to mail his two delinquent car payment coupons to the representative. Subsequent to this telephone conversation, the young man mailed the coupons to the representative; and on February 20, 1990, the representative paid $299 and $278.88 to satisfy the debt utilizing money orders purchased near the representative’s business.

3. In February 1990, the representative visited the young man’s residence in Auburn where he provided between $100 and $200 cash to the student-athlete. In the spring of 1990, the representative [Page 9] provided $1,200 cash to a relative, who drove to the student-athlete’s residence where he provided $1,200 cash to the young man.

4. During a December 1990 visit by the student-athlete to the representative’s office, the representative provided $540 cash to the young man, of which $500 was a Christmas gift and $40 was to purchase gasoline.

540 dollars as a gift is a little different than 150k for a letter of intent….no??

gdawginkalamazoo

December 13th, 2010
1:55 pm

It is kind of funny that Texas paid all that money to Muschamp then he bolted because Mack wanted to play JoePa.

Bama Dude Is A Weenie Head

December 13th, 2010
1:57 pm

Now Means allegations:

NCAA sanctions
During the 2000 season, an assistant football coach at Trezevant High School in Memphis claimed that Young had paid Lynn Lang, the Trezevant head football coach, approximately $150,000 to encourage defensive lineman Albert Means to sign with Alabama.[5] Following the investigation by the NCAA, Alabama received a five-year probation, a two-year bowl ban, and a reduced number of scholarships that the university could give out—limiting them by twenty-one scholarships over the next three years.[6]

[edit] Alabama sanctions
Alabama dissociated Young from the program, banning him from involvement with the program, stripping him of his $40,000 luxury box at Bryant-Denny Stadium and canceling an insurance policy that would have paid $500,000 toward the Paul “Bear” Bryant Museum on campus.[2]

Young was convicted in federal court on conspiracy to commit racketeering, crossing state lines to commit racketeering, and arranging bank withdrawals to cover up a crime.[3] Young’s defense claimed Lang, who was also convicted of a racketeering conspiracy, was motived to testify against Young in exchange for a lighter sentence.[3] He was eventually sentenced to six months in jail, though he still firmly denied any wrong-doing.[7]

[edit] Death
On April 11, 2006, Young was found dead in his home in Memphis.[4] Originally though to be a homicide, local police concluded that Young’s death was accidental

Langley

December 13th, 2010
1:57 pm

Isn’t AU in 2nd place for all time NCAA violations? One behind being tied for first? Just saying.

T3

December 13th, 2010
1:59 pm

Barnhart said:

“But it also tells you that Miami’s job is not one where the school can go out and command the services of a Tier One proven head coach.”

Mike Leach took made backwater Texas Tech into a National Title contender agiainst the likes of Texas and Oklahoma.

I think Donald Trump is a heeluva lot smarter than Barnhart.

Trump recommended Leach to Miami back in 2006, and recently did again, and Trump was prepared to back it up with LOTS OF MONEY.

Trump was in a position to deliver HUGE sums of Money to a Miami Athletics programs that is financially DESPARATE. Al Golden aint bringing any money with him. Leach would have.

As for Miami AD Kirby Hocutt and Miami President Donna Shalala publicly stating they would not hire ANYONE for the coaching job that brought “baggage” to the job.

This……from the Miami administrators that hired Randy Shannon ??

Shannon has more baggage than ocean-going cargo container.

Either they are SERIOULSY STUPID at Miami……or there is a CONCERTED POLITICIZED EFFORT to keep Leach off the field.

Well, as I said back in March 2010, Leach woul end up at either Miami or Maryland. Looks like it’s gonna be Maryland after Friedgen’s final year in 2011.

BAMA dude

December 13th, 2010
2:00 pm

KR, the point was that UF is a very elite job. Truth be told, they could probably land 80% of the FBS coaches out there. I was very surprised by that hire in this case when they are near top of the CFB world (this one season notwithstanding). Why not have a look at Bret Bielema? Bo Pelini? Jim Harbaugh? Those are just examples but Florida would be a step up for any of those guys who had their teams competing for BCS bowl games. Muschamp may very well be talented but Florida ain’t the kind of situation that people use to learn how to be a HC.

nothingmore

December 13th, 2010
2:00 pm

That is right,I bet we get nothing more on AU,Why?Because the NCAA wants this to go away and I’m betting that is just what will happen.What a freakin’ crazy/sewage football season.

Bama Dude Is A Weenie Head

December 13th, 2010
2:01 pm

What Dye and Wayne Hall did was wrong, but it’s peanuts compared to what they are doing over in Tuscaloosa. They almost got the death penalty recently for crying out loud! How do you explain 4 probations in 14 years Bama Dude?

Langley

December 13th, 2010
2:04 pm

UA paid their price just like AU will pay their’s. It’s coming.

ga gator

December 13th, 2010
2:04 pm

BAMA dude mostly agree, but I like the hire. Of the three you mentioned only Harbaugh would be successful in the SEC, but he probably either wants to be at Michigan or NFL so Foley probably did not even consider him.

BAMA dude

December 13th, 2010
2:08 pm

ga gator, not sure why you’d think that. I think Pelini and Bielema could compete anywhere. When Pelini got the Nebraska job, they had been in the tank for some time. Made sense for them to hire a bright young assistant and let him grow with his program. Same for Stoops at Oklahoma. Florida isn’t in that situation- this is a big time job with big time money and the most fertile recruiting ground in the country. They are one year removed from 13-1 and two years from a MNC. I can’t believe they reached for an assistant. It baffles me.

JaxGator

December 13th, 2010
2:08 pm

MURPHY:
I will certainly come back next year and let you know if I am still happy with Muschamp. I am like you; I am glad that we did not get Mullen. I have a lot of confidence in Foley and his judgment. Check and see how many times Florida has won the SEC allsports trophy since Foley has been AD. Many on here mention the Zook hire; Zook was not even in the top four choices, he was a panic hire like Kiffin at USC. Foley did not waste time getting rid of Zook; although Zook beat Richt 2 of 3. At least we are not stuck with a mediocre coach like Richt.

Mongo

December 13th, 2010
2:10 pm

Mongo think Auburn should pay players more. Then Auburn compete with Bama.

What? Mongo say something wrong?

BAMA dude

December 13th, 2010
2:10 pm

To clarify, I wasn’t talking about the fact that you like the hire when I said “don’t know why you think that.” I was talking about Bielema and Pelini.

Mongo

December 13th, 2010
2:11 pm

Mongo not like Mike Bianchi. Bianchi is bad man who make fun of Mongo and other football players. Mongo want to hit Mike Bianchi.

honesttogod

December 13th, 2010
2:12 pm

I think if you live in the State of Alabama you can damn near get away with anything.And bu!!$hit that it goes on everywhere,it does NOT!

Kenny Powers

December 13th, 2010
2:13 pm

Miami completely botched the the head coaching search. I mean come’on…its “THE U”

Miami fans should expect their ‘Caines to dominate the ACC consistently.

Langley

December 13th, 2010
2:14 pm

Telegram for Mongo, Telegram for Mongo……AU undermicroscope not UA. It’s coming.

King Gator

December 13th, 2010
2:15 pm

Foley’s been searching for Urban’s replacement since this time last year. He knew talking Meyer back into the job was only temporary and after the way things went this year he knew it would probably be sooner than later. This is why it took him less than a week to fill the head coaching position at Florida. Most of the leg work, background checking, etc. had already been done. I’m sure Foley knew Muschamp would be in unless Mack Brown retired this year. Good for our AD being prepared and making a good hire .. I know time will tell, but I like it on many fronts and will miss Coach Meyer too. I guess it beats having an AD who gets DUI with some young girl who’s not his wife without any panties on. Go Gators! Welcome Coach Muschamp to the Gator Nation and the fun that is the SEC!

ga gator

December 13th, 2010
2:15 pm

BAMA dude, I am not saying that it was not a surprise hire, I would have prefered the Boise coach, but that being said, 4 weeks ago a lot of Texas people were wanting Brown fired and Muschamp promoted. If he was good enough for Texas, he should be good enough for any job in the country including Bama or Florida. Not a safe hire, but a bold one that I believe is what the program needed.

Mobile Dawg

December 13th, 2010
2:16 pm

Anytime you hire an assistant you are “rolling the dice”. What I did like was that it was quick and decisive.

Sanford Drive

December 13th, 2010
2:16 pm

JaxGator,

CMR is not a mediocre coach. You will see next year in your hometown that the Gators being down is a win for the Dawgs. Muschamp will remember his heritage and know that he has a future in Athens if he plays his cards straight.

Mongo

December 13th, 2010
2:16 pm

Mongo no read (Mongo went to Auburn). Can you read to me?

KR

December 13th, 2010
2:16 pm

BAMA dude: I agree that the UF job is considered by most to be an “elite” position. But sooner or later you start running out of “elite” people to fill those jobs. Even if you do manage to land one, they don’t always work out as promised. Or, they put in a few years and start looking for the next “elite” stop on the line.

Foley’s hiring track record has been pretty good so far, so I think UF fans will need to trust his judgement. For the record, I wouldn’t have gone with Muschamp. We’ll find out soon enough who’s right and who’s wrong.

dawgfan

December 13th, 2010
2:18 pm

Dawgs beat G@ytors in Jax next year. Write it down. In stone.

Class dismissed.

Mongo

December 13th, 2010
2:19 pm

Mongo like Urban Meyers, but Mongo not go to Florida. Coach Meyers make players go to class. Class confuse Mongo, so Mongo go to Auburn.

Bama Dude Is A Weenie Head

December 13th, 2010
2:19 pm

Langley Bama’ not under the microscope? Even though they are currently on probation AS WE SPEAK!! UNTIL 2012??? They almost received the death penalty 8 years ago in the wake of the Means scandal! Yeah right they definitely clean over there LMAO

Mobile Dawg

December 13th, 2010
2:19 pm

King Gator, word on the inner circle was that the Muschamp hiring is payback from UGA for the Richt hiring 10 years ago. Your program will self destruct from within like ours has within five years….

The Most Obnoxious Man Alive

December 13th, 2010
2:20 pm

Sanford Drive

Trust me ALL Gators hope Richt stays at Georgia for years. Great coaches dont go 1-2 against Ron Zook.

Langley

December 13th, 2010
2:20 pm

Dear Mr. Mongo,
UA cleaned up their reading dept after sanctions. AU will have to clean up their’s as well as the Sociology dept during your sanctions.

We teach Mongo to read.

playshiscards?

December 13th, 2010
2:21 pm

So our new Coach will take a dive and let the bulldogs win? wtf are you saying man?

The Most Obnoxious Man Alive

December 13th, 2010
2:21 pm

dawgfan just like last year with the worst Gator team since 1989.

Mongo

December 13th, 2010
2:21 pm

Mongo like Mark Richt, too, but Mark Richt not win football games.

Bama Dude Is A Weenie Head

December 13th, 2010
2:21 pm

Logan Young, Key Figure in Alabama Scandal, Murdered
James Joyner | Tuesday, April 11, 2006

ESPN is reporting that “A man found dead Tuesday in a Memphis home is believed to be Logan Young, an Alabama booster convicted of bribing a high school football coach to get a top recruit for the Crimson Tide.”

Police are investigating the case as a homicide. They have not yet confirmed the body was Young, but the Memphis Commercial Appeal reported on its Web site Tuesday that that detectives were working at a house where Young’s body was found. “We’re treating it as a mystery homicide,” Sgt. Vince Higgins told The Associated Press. He said officials assume the victim was Young but needed to use fingerprints and dental records to confirm the identity. “Suffice it to say, there was quite a physical struggle in this and this individual was injured severely,” he said.

Nashville attorney Jim Neal, who defended Young, said he had been told the body was found by a housekeeper. “I’ve had two or three calls about it, all to the same end, found killed in his home. … I heard that there was blood everywhere. That is all I know,” Neal said. Higgins said Young’s housekeeper found the body after she arrived for work this morning. The body had not been removed from the house and no family members immediately arrived at the house.

The 65-year-old Young was convicted under federal law of money laundering and racketeering conspiracy in the case involving the peddling of defensive lineman Albert Means. Young was sentenced in June to six months in prison and six months of home confinement then two years of supervised release. But he had been allowed to remain free pending his appeal.

[...]

Means’ recruitment became part of an NCAA investigation that led to sanctions against Alabama in 2002, costing the Crimson Tide scholarships and bowl appearances.

Attorney Tommy Gallion, who represented Williams and former Alabama assistant Ronnie Cottrell in a defamation suit against the NCAA and others, called the news tragic. “I have no idea who could be behind this. I was shocked that Phillip Shanks was beaten and this was more shocking,” Gallion said in a statement read by his secretary. Shanks was assisting Gallion on the lawsuit in May 2004 when he was attacked in his office and left unconscious. Key case documents were stolen, he said. No one was ever charged in the case.

Defense attorney Robert Hutton said he last talked with Young last week and called his death a total shock and a real loss. “He was very generous man. He was generous with people around him. A pastor of a Catholic Church, he asked for money for some program, for the roof or something, and he gave him the money. Logan wasn’t even Catholic,” Hutton said. “He was a wonderful character. I really enjoyed him as a person. It’s just a horrible tragedy.”

The Most Obnoxious Man Alive

December 13th, 2010
2:22 pm

dawgfan why are you such a gay UGAY fan?

Mongo

December 13th, 2010
2:23 pm

Thank you, Mr. Langley. Maybe Mongo go to Bama for grad school? Mongo still have track and field eligibility. Mongo throw steel ball for Bama. Maybe Mongo get Bama MBA.

They have Textbooks At Alabama?

December 13th, 2010
2:24 pm

Langley

December 13th, 2010
2:20 pm
Dear Mr. Mongo,
UA cleaned up their reading dept after sanctions.

You mean they actually read books at Alabama? Could have fooled me…..

Langley

December 13th, 2010
2:24 pm

Mongo,
I shall speak so you understand.
Why weenie man speak about past? Weenie man need to think of future. Or does weenie man prefer weenie’s?

King Gator

December 13th, 2010
2:25 pm

If Muschamp doesn’t pan out, Foley will cut him and move on .. same as it is at Bama and AU..not so much for other schools and even at the coordinator level. I hope he’s good for the Gators, can’t be worse than Zook. I trust our AD – Go Gators!

Langley

December 13th, 2010
2:25 pm

Have you not seen the return value of the textbooks at UA?

dawgfan

December 13th, 2010
2:28 pm

hey obnoxious,

good name for yourself. GATA. G@ytors still suck.

Mobile Dawg

December 13th, 2010
2:28 pm

Muschamp’s success will depend on whom he surrounds himself with. Saban fired Major Applewhite after one year, wasn’t it?

ga gator

December 13th, 2010
2:28 pm

No one could be worse than Zook UGA fans……………………………………

Mongo

December 13th, 2010
2:28 pm

Mongo not like Weenie Man. Weenie Man make fun of Mongo’s blog friends like Mr. Langley. Mongo think about future. Mongo get BAMA MBA, learn to read. You help Mongo with Mongo’s GMATs?

Langley Likes Weenies

December 13th, 2010
2:28 pm

What are textbooks doing at Alabama anyway? Must need them to prop up a couple chairs I guess……LoL

BAMA dude

December 13th, 2010
2:29 pm

King Gator, that’s a fair assessment. Muschamp is certainly a hot name and up-and-comer. My point was just that a school with the talent Florida has, the money they can pay, and the recent success they’ve had would usually prefer to have a guy that got his feet wet elsewhere, that’s all. He could be very successful.

Most Obnoxious Man Alive

December 13th, 2010
2:29 pm

dawgfan it must really suck to be a UGAY fan who is owned by the gaytors.

Langley Likes Weenies

December 13th, 2010
2:30 pm

ESPN is reporting that “A man found dead Tuesday in a Memphis home is believed to be Logan Young, an Alabama booster convicted of bribing a high school football coach to get a top recruit for the Crimson Tide.”

Police are investigating the case as a homicide. They have not yet confirmed the body was Young, but the Memphis Commercial Appeal reported on its Web site Tuesday that that detectives were working at a house where Young’s body was found. “We’re treating it as a mystery homicide,” Sgt. Vince Higgins told The Associated Press. He said officials assume the victim was Young but needed to use fingerprints and dental records to confirm the identity. “Suffice it to say, there was quite a physical struggle in this and this individual was injured severely,” he said.

Nashville attorney Jim Neal, who defended Young, said he had been told the body was found by a housekeeper. “I’ve had two or three calls about it, all to the same end, found killed in his home. … I heard that there was blood everywhere. That is all I know,” Neal said.

ga gator

December 13th, 2010
2:32 pm

Mobile, I would rather him hire Kerwin Bell (currently a D-2) HC as the OC, but not sure Kerwin sees a D-1 OC better than a D-2 HC. Wouldn’t it be ironic if Richt is fired in a year or 2 and UGA hires Kerwin as HC.

Mongo

December 13th, 2010
2:32 pm

Mongo is Auburn man, but Mongo want to evolve. Mongo want to become Bama man.

Langley

December 13th, 2010
2:33 pm

You got it Mongo. Your reward will be to abuse weenie man in a medieval fashion. He might just like that however. Good luck Mongo. You made me laugh today.

Langley Likes Weenies

December 13th, 2010
2:33 pm

Does the “Official Story” seem plausible to you?

Homicide Lt. Joe Scott said police believe Young tripped while carrying a salad and soft drink up a set of stairs and hit his head on an iron railing. The fall onto the railing opened a large gash across the top of Young’s head and he dropped to the floor bleeding profusely, Scott said at a news conference. After lying on the floor for some time, Young got up and walked bleeding through several rooms of his spacious, two-story house before ending up in his second-floor bedroom, Scott added. His housekeeper found the body beside his bed Tuesday morning. “There was a lot of blood,” Scott said. Young, who was divorced and lived alone, apparently tried to slow the bleeding with towels from the kitchen downstairs and a bathroom upstairs, and two towels soaked with blood were found on the bed. He walked past several telephones but didn’t place an emergency call, Scott said.

Langley

December 13th, 2010
2:36 pm

Weenie man. Who cares what happened years ago? UA cheated, got caught and paid the price. AU is next. It’s that simple. Prepare yourself for the wrath of Mongo.

Mongo

December 13th, 2010
2:37 pm

Mongo like Mr. Langley, but Mongo not like Weenie Man. Mongo like Auburn cheerleaders, but Coach Dye not introduce Mongo to cheerleaders after Mongo graduate.

gdawginkalamazoo

December 13th, 2010
2:37 pm

Ah, Will Muschamp to Florida, Welcome aboard saboteur!

Meyer who?

MURPHY

December 13th, 2010
2:41 pm

ga gator,

No way I want Kerwin Bell anywhere near our UGA program! Ill stay with Bobo and take my chances.Dont want Bell’s ego anywhere near our program!

Tell the truth

December 13th, 2010
2:44 pm

Of course they are rolling the dice. That’s the best they could do??? AND Florida wwill not win the East next year you homer!!!!

Mongo

December 13th, 2010
2:47 pm

Tony no homer. Tony UGA man.

Tell the truth

December 13th, 2010
2:55 pm

There is no way I believe that either for 4 days or for one year Foley only talked with Muschamp about this job!!! He may be the only one offered- since he would never offer formally unless he knew the answer would be yes. But he never felt out other potentials for the job??? Can you say BS????

Mongo

December 13th, 2010
2:57 pm

“Tell the truth” is angry man. Tell Mongo why so angry?

Mongo

December 13th, 2010
3:02 pm

Mongo like Coach Muschamp. Coach Muschamp let Mongo on Auburn sideline when he was coach for Tigers. Mongo is alumnus of Auburn defensive line.

truthis

December 13th, 2010
3:23 pm

Gators got their man! Now if UGA wins next year,I guess he is a spy and will be shot.

Not So Fast

December 13th, 2010
3:24 pm

Hey Trisha:

Unfortunatly the comming santions will hurt recruiting. All these recruits have seen the hammering USCw got.

IT'S ALLLLL ABOUT THE MONEY!!!!

December 13th, 2010
3:33 pm

WHAT GOES ON ELSEWHERE DOESN’T MATTER,ONLY WHAT’S BEEN GOING ON @ AU IS ALL THAT MATTER’S TO THE NCAA,FBI & THE IRS @ THIS TIME……….DON’T YOU UNDERSTAND THAT??!! NAME CALLING OTHER SCHOOL’S WON’T JUSTIFY THE GOING’S ON @ OUR BELOVED SCHOOL!!! WHEN OUR COACH IS 13-0 AND DOES NOT WIN THE COACH OF THE YEAR IN THE SEC……….SOMETHING’S WRONG HERE!!!! I PRAY TO LORD EVERY NIGHT THAT LOWDER,DYE & OTHER’S HAVEN’T SCREWED US AU FAN’S AGAIN!!! WE HAVE AUSOME TEAM BUT IF WE HAVE OUR SEASON HIGHLIGHTED WITH A * I FOR ONE WILL BE SICK!!!!

Langley

December 13th, 2010
3:36 pm

Money,
With all due respect to Chizik, anyone on this board would be 13-0 as the coach of AU having Cam. Make no mistake, it was not Chiznik that coached this team to 13-0. It was Cam’s feet and sometimes his arm.

brokeback jacket

December 13th, 2010
3:38 pm

Are the tech nerds rolling the dice with butt ugly cheerleaders?

BG

December 13th, 2010
3:41 pm

Tony, Didn’t you pick UF to win the east in 09? I guess you will continue to pick UF until you are right.

From Where I Sit

December 13th, 2010
3:47 pm

Who cares that FL chose to announce their coach at the time the thief and liar got his award? He should not have gotten a 2nd chance anyway, just like Vick. Again, Auburn will find out how loyal this guy is when he leaves now to go to the NFL and that he only used them as a marketing platform to get there. I bet he does not give a DIME back the the university as well!

I clap my hands loud on what FL did as most probably did not care to watch this loser get his trophy.

Enough Said!

Bama Dude Is Clueless

December 13th, 2010
3:51 pm

If I were king of the NCAA, I would not only saturate Alabama with investigators, I would set up a branch office in Tuscaloosa. -Bianchi

SuperB

December 13th, 2010
3:55 pm

I’ll bet Florida will not win the SEC East next year. The surprise winner: Georgia. The reason: Better QB. if Georgia’s RB’s don’t fumble all over the place– the Dawgs would have won it this year.

Bama Dude the Weenie

December 13th, 2010
3:57 pm

In 2010, two Wall Street Journal reports suggested Alabama and Saban had engaged in dishonest and unethical behavior largely related to the controversial practice of oversigning. On September 24, the Journal reported that several Alabama players had been pressured into requesting medical scholarships (not counted against the athletic scholarship limit) despite being healthy enough to play and wanting to remain on the team.[31] A couple months later, on November 25, 2010, the Journal reported that several former Alabama players claim Saban and Alabama lied about their reasons for leaving the school.[32] Upon removing the players from the Alabama team in early August 2009, just days before the NCAA-mandated scholarship deadline, Saban told members of the press that the players had “violated some type of team rule or policy.”[33] The players told the Wall Street Journal they committed no such violations and that Alabama and Saban had only claimed as much so as to protect the image of their program in the eyes of future recruits. Saban was also questioned, in April 2008, about how he manages to be under the scholarship limit each year despite the appearance of oversigning, to which he agitatedly responded, “It’s none of your business. Aiight? And don’t give me this stuff about the fans’ need to know, because they don’t need to know. Don’t even ask. Aiight?”[34]

Bama Dude the Weenie

December 13th, 2010
4:01 pm

Former Players Say Saban Twisted the Truth
Alabama’s Football Coach Said Four Athletes Were Let Go for Breaking Team Rules—Three of Them Say That’s Not True. Digg

On Aug. 5, 2009, just before Alabama’s football team embarked on what would be a championship season, head coach Nick Saban delivered some unpleasant news at a preseason news conference. Four players hadn’t been invited back to the program because they had “violated some type of team rule.”
Head coach Nick Saban and his Alabama players in early October as the Crimson Tide faced the Florida Gators.
.”These guys all did something,” Mr. Saban continued, without elaborating. “It doesn’t make them bad people.…These guys didn’t do what they were supposed to do here, whether it was for academic reasons or whatever. They’re not going to be part of the program.”

In interviews with The Wall Street Journal, three of the players Mr. Saban mentioned that day—cornerback Alonzo Lawrence, running back Jermaine Preyear and linebacker Prince Hall—said Mr. Saban’s statement about their departures wasn’t accurate.

Mr. Lawrence said he decided to transfer from Alabama because he didn’t think he would get to play, not because he’d violated any rules, and was “shocked” by Mr. Saban’s comments. Mr. Hall, who had played in 36 games at Alabama, said while he had been suspended three times for violating team rules in the past, it was his decision to transfer—and Mr. Saban had tried to talk him out of it.

Mr. Preyear also said he chose to leave over concerns about playing time. “I don’t know any rules I could have broken,” he said. Reggie Barlow, Mr. Preyear’s current coach at Alabama State, confirmed Mr. Preyear’s account that he wasn’t dismissed by Alabama for rules violations but had asked to transfer.

Jermaine Preyear playing for Alabama State in the 2009 season.
.The three players said they believe Mr. Saban falsely portrayed the circumstances of their departures to protect the image of his program. Mr. Saban had previously come under scrutiny by the media for offering scholarships to more incoming recruits than the school could accommodate under NCAA scholarship limits. This relatively common practice, which is known as “oversigning” is not prohibited by the NCAA. It allows a coach to improve his roster by giving him a larger pool of talent to choose from. But it also eventually forces the coach to get rid of a few scholarship players he no longer wants—which can put him at risk of scaring away future recruits.

Bama Dude the Weenie

December 13th, 2010
4:07 pm

This Is Your “Honest” Head Coach….

Saban, who two weeks ago declared “I’m not going to be the Alabama coach,” accepted the Tide’s job offer job and abandoned his attempt to rebuild the Dolphins after only two seasons.”I guess I have to say it. I’m not going to be the Alabama coach. … I don’t control what people say. I don’t control what people put on dot-com or anything else. So I’m just telling you there’s no significance, in my opinion, about this, about me, about any interest that I have in anything other than being the coach here.”

Langley

December 13th, 2010
4:08 pm

Man who prefers weenies,
Oversigning – not prohibited by the NCAA.
Paying players – prohibited by the NCAA. Sorry you will be sanctioned.

Risk of scaring away recruits:
UA – Currently #2 in the Rivals rating.
AU – Currently #21 in the Rivals rating. Last year’s class bought and paid for.

Bama Dude the Weenie

December 13th, 2010
4:09 pm

Another Nick Saban player lands on the NCAA’s radar
Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on July 22, 2010, 2:42 PM EST
The situation involving Alabama football players possibly getting paid continues to get more interesting.

TMZ reports that the NCAA is looking into whether someone other than Alabama running back Mark Ingram, the 2009 Heisman Trophy winner, paid for him to attend a May 12 party in D.C.

Langley

December 13th, 2010
4:11 pm

Man who must have a weenie in his mouth,
No coach in the history of coaching jobs have ever said that “yes, I am going to take the coaching job at school x just as soon as I am finished with my current coaching job at school/team y.
Dude, you are 12 years old or dumber than a box of hammers. AU is going to get hit. Deal with it.

Mobile Dawg

December 13th, 2010
4:11 pm

ga gator, other than the pressure, theoretically, if you have a successful formula and you recruit good kids if you can win at D-2 you should be able to win at D-1. I don’t understand the need to have a big name coach. I see the guy at South Alabama, Joey Jones as an up and comer. Save yourself a lot of money, get yourself a good guy. I know of Kerwin Bell but don’t know anything about him individually. But that’s what they pay a good AD for. Good luck with Muschamp, he should do a good job.

Bama Dude the Weenie

December 13th, 2010
4:15 pm

Alabama defensive end Marcell Dareus has been suspended for two games following an investigation into not one but two spring trips that might have involved improper contact with agents.

He also must pay $1,787.17 of benefits to a charity of his choice, the NCAA student-athlete reinstatement staff has ruled in a decision announced tonight.

Alabama coach Nick Saban said on his radio show tonight that Alabama will appeal the decision in hopes of getting the suspension reduced to one game.

According to an NCAA news release, Alabama declared Dareus ineligible for violations of NCAA preferential treatment and agent benefits rules. According to Alabama, the benefits included airfare, lodging, meals and transportation during two trips to Miami. A second trip had not previously been disclosed.

The student-athlete reinstatement staff reduced a suspension from a potential four games to two because of mitigating circumstances in the case, the NCAA news release said.

Dareus will sit out Saturday’s season opener against San Jose State and, more importantly, a game the following week against Penn State

Bama Dude the Weenie

December 13th, 2010
4:20 pm

Saban said “I am not taking the job” over and over again. He was simply holding out for more money. He will get bored with Bama in a few years and be back in the NFL, leaving your program in ruins in the process! Go down with the ship Langley dear Boy you are toast if the NCAA does come calling to Alabama. You and I know AU would not be the only casualty if they come snooping around. Keep living in denial with your head in the sand! It’s only a matter of time before the NCAA pulls the trigger and gives you boys at Bama the Death Penalty……

Langley

December 13th, 2010
4:21 pm

Paying players. Get ready for 6 major violations.

3. Auburn

While the Tigers have kept their nose clean in recent years, Auburn has five major violations on its record. The most recent was a 1993 issue involving money given to students, including one report of a drop-off of $250 at a trailer park. The Tigers received a two-year postseason ban and one-year television ban as a result, making it the fourth time the school was taken out of postseason and television privileges.

Langley

December 13th, 2010
4:23 pm

Enter your comments here

ted brogan

December 13th, 2010
4:26 pm

Bama Dude the Weenie,

As Fletch told the chief of police GOD I ADMIRE YOU…

Seriously, now Bama’s getting the death penalty based on allegations and past penalties that are now cleared.
I guess the NCAA just ignores Bama now and let’s them get away with whatever they want. Not sure who you are a fan of, but probably a 6-6 team.
Also, I know Saban is the first coach to ever say he is not going to be a coach and then go somewhere, shame on him for setting a first and bad example.

Go sit on a weenie,

Langley

December 13th, 2010
4:28 pm

Forgot to enter comment. Head not is sand weenie boy, however if you take the you know what out of your arse then you should see that UA is not under investigation. Marcel Dareus sat out two games. Done. You are reaching for straws that are not there. Your program is straight dirty and you are going down for it. The FBI/NCAA don’t snoop around without something there. I will say it one more time. Slive kept the money in the SEC. After the bowl season, the Heisman trophy will go back to the Heisman trust.

Skitty Fritty

December 13th, 2010
4:29 pm

Carolina will be the favorite to win the East in 2011 not UF. They have their QB, RB and WR returning and they won the East in 2010. Why would they not be the favorites to win the East in 2011?

Noteam

December 13th, 2010
4:31 pm

will ever get the death penalty again,NO TEAM! Now they may get the living $hit slapped out of them,But not the death penalty.

DwayneL

December 13th, 2010
4:32 pm

Dawgs will be fourth next season behind Florida, South Carolina, and TN.

ATL Gator

December 13th, 2010
4:36 pm

for those of you that question the Muschamp hire based on the record of Texas, they were 7th in the nation in total defense…not bad considering how often they were on the field thanks to a terrible offense

Langley the Liar

December 13th, 2010
4:37 pm

The governing body said it considered giving the Crimson Tide the most severe punishment — the death penalty — under the repeat violator rules for a recruiting scandal in which boosters were accused of paying money for high school players.

“They were absolutely staring down the barrel of a gun,” said Thomas Yeager, chairman of the infractions committee.

‘Bama busted

Major findings cited by the NCAA Infractions Committee in imposing penalties on the Alabama football program:

A recruit, identified in news reports as Kenny Smith, and his parents were given $20,000 in cash, lodging and entertainment by two Crimson Tide boosters beginning in 1995. The first payment of $10,000 was made in $100 bills delivered in a grocery bag. Smith signed with Alabama but couldn’t meet academic requirements.

An Alabama booster previously identified as Logan Young of Memphis, Tenn., gave cash to a high school coach who was seeking $100,000 cash and two sport-utility vehicles in exchange for directing star recruit Albert Means to Alabama.

An assistant coach, former recruiting coordinator Ronnie Cottrell, received two loans totaling $56,600 from Young in violation of NCAA rules. The loan was not repaid until the case became known.

Two boosters involved in repeated rules violations were known to the Alabama staff, coaches and fans and often were seen at the team hotel during road games.

A recruit, identified previously as Travis Carroll, was given the use of a car in 1999 for agreeing to attend Alabama. The car was repossessed when Carroll transferred to Florida.

“These violations are some of the worst, most serious that have ever occurred,” he said.

Bob UGA 90

December 13th, 2010
4:37 pm

Tony – Why do you persisit to defend Cam? It seems like every article you have written lately defends him in some way. Why? A son who is that close to his father had to know what was going on, btw. Only the naive would believe otherwise.

Langley the Liar

December 13th, 2010
4:37 pm

The governing body said it considered giving the Crimson Tide the most severe punishment — the death penalty — under the repeat violator rules for a recruiting scandal in which boosters were accused of paying money for high school players.

“They were absolutely staring down the barrel of a gun,” said Thomas Yeager, chairman of the infractions committee

WAS THAT CLEAR ENOUGH FOR YOU!!

Langley

December 13th, 2010
4:39 pm

Weenie google boy,
How does that make me a liar? How soon your little mind forgets. UA paid for those violations as I mentioned earlier. AU’s are coming.

Langley the Liar

December 13th, 2010
4:40 pm

Seriously, now Bama’s getting the death penalty based on allegations and past penalties that are now cleared.
I guess the NCAA just ignores Bama now and let’s them get away with whatever they want. Not sure who you are a fan of, but probably a 6-6 team.

NOPE MY TEAM IS 13-0 ON OUR WAY TO GLENDALE WITH THE HEISMAN WINNER WINNER & COACH OF THE YEAR! HATER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Langley the Liar

December 13th, 2010
4:41 pm

An Alabama booster previously identified as Logan Young of Memphis, Tenn., gave cash to a high school coach who was seeking $100,000 cash and two sport-utility vehicles in exchange for directing star recruit Albert Means to Alabama.

An assistant coach, former recruiting coordinator Ronnie Cottrell, received two loans totaling $56,600 from Young in violation of NCAA rules. The loan was not repaid until the case became known.

Two boosters involved in repeated rules violations were known to the Alabama staff, coaches and fans and often were seen at the team hotel during road games.

A recruit, identified previously as Travis Carroll, was given the use of a car in 1999 for agreeing to attend Alabama. The car was repossessed when Carroll transferred to Florida.

“These violations are some of the worst, most serious that have ever occurred,” he said.

wxwax

December 13th, 2010
4:43 pm

“The problem at Florida last season was not talent. It was a lack of focus and a lack of leadership. ”

If I had a nickel for every time someone said the problem was the coaching and not the talent, I’d be driving a Ferrari.

Why is it that everyone always blames the coaches and not the talent? Same thing at UGA. It’s bewildering.

Voice Of Reason

December 13th, 2010
4:44 pm

I’ve got it on good authority that both Julio Jones and Mark Ingram were both paid to go to Alabama. They have also received improper benefits and weekly stipends. It won’t come out until Saban leaves town, but when it hits the fan it will be veeeeery ugly!

ted brogan

December 13th, 2010
4:45 pm

an auburn fan throwing around the death penalty, wow…

I’ll be shocked if the newton story is over, have a great time while you can…

Langley The Clown

December 13th, 2010
4:46 pm

“Paid for your mistakes”?? The most recent sanctions were just imposed last year!!! Did you forget about “textbook-gate”? YOU ARE ON PROBATION RIGHT NOW!!! “We paid for those violations” LMAO That’s a good one!!!!

Langley

December 13th, 2010
4:47 pm

Skin flute player (weenie boy), You are definitely tripping. 13-0 soon to be 0-14 (because I think Cam win’s the MNC and then the games get nulified). Coach of the year. Ha. Even you could coach AU to 13-0 with Cam. Face it. AU wanted to try and sniff UA’s jock in the realm of recruiting, National titles, SEC titles, bowl appearances and bowl victories. They paid players, and will get caught. Get over it. And yes, before you post, UA has done so in the past, got caught and paid the price. It is just your turn now.

Langley The Clown

December 13th, 2010
4:48 pm

Good luck in the cellar Ted…..tell me what mediocrity feels like

Langley

December 13th, 2010
4:50 pm

Weenie lover (Langely the clown) You should know what mediocrity feels like.

Langley The Clown

December 13th, 2010
4:50 pm

WE ARE SMART ENOUGH NOT TO GET CAUGHT AGAIN! Only a mullet gets caught with his hand in the same cookie jar twice!!!(Or 3 or 4 times for that matter I guess LoL

ted brogan

December 13th, 2010
4:53 pm

Langley The Clown,

You win, I hope I can find a new team to pull for now that Bama got the death penalty. I am going to email saban to tell all the recruits to find another school and get rid of the #2 recruiting class. Should I tell them to go to Auburn where the program is clean and they can learn how to become better young men.
Give me some cammie cam juice, cause I am All in Family, weagle weagle.

Langley

December 13th, 2010
4:54 pm

3 or 4 times yes. But AU has been caught 5 times with hand in said jar (not vaseline jar). The next one (coming soom) will you put AU in first place for major violations. Be proud.

Ed (The Original)

December 13th, 2010
4:58 pm

I’m sure UF had no choice but to release the announcement when it did. The timing was, ahem, “unfortunate.”

Stay classy, Gators.

Ed (The Original)

December 13th, 2010
5:02 pm

“I’ll bet Florida will not win the SEC East next year. The surprise winner: Georgia.”

That really will be a surprise if Richt is still our coach, SuperB.

BAMA dude

December 13th, 2010
5:02 pm

Wow, I must be a big time blogger these days. Got my very own stalker!

Braselton84

December 13th, 2010
5:05 pm

ted brogan
December 13th, 2010
4:45 pm

an auburn fan throwing around the death penalty, wow…

I’ll be shocked if the newton story is over, have a great time while you can…

__________________________________________________________________

Prepare to be shocked then.

Langley

December 13th, 2010
5:05 pm

Bama dude,
He is an amazing stalker. Went from weenie something to Langley is a clown. I think he had to go take a bath. His mother (or boyfriend) must have had his supper ready.

Randy

December 13th, 2010
5:12 pm

gatorsports.com is reporting breaking news of Kirby Smart accepting position at the University of Florida !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Go Gators

and bulldog fans……………..if you can’t beat em….join em !

Langley Is A Hack

December 13th, 2010
5:29 pm

An Alabama booster previously identified as Logan Young of Memphis, Tenn., gave cash to a high school coach who was seeking $100,000 cash and two sport-utility vehicles in exchange for directing star recruit Albert Means to Alabama.

An assistant coach, former recruiting coordinator Ronnie Cottrell, received two loans totaling $56,600 from Young in violation of NCAA rules. The loan was not repaid until the case became known.

Two boosters involved in repeated rules violations were known to the Alabama staff, coaches and fans and often were seen at the team hotel during road games.

“These violations are some of the worst, most serious that have ever occurred,” he said.

Langley Is A Hack

December 13th, 2010
5:31 pm

Langley how you feel about losing your DC to Florida? LMAO Kiss him goodbye mullet!!

Langley Is A Worthless Hack

December 13th, 2010
5:36 pm

Langley

December 13th, 2010
4:50 pm
Weenie lover (Langely the clown) You should know what mediocrity feels like

HISTORY LESSON FOR LANGLEY……

The College Football Research Center lists Auburn as the 14th best college football program in history,[3] with eight Auburn squads listed in Billingsley’s Top 200 Teams of All Time (1869–2006).[4] ESPN ranked Auburn 21st overall[5] and 22nd in the BCS era,[6] behind several other SEC schools, including Florida, Georgia, LSU, Tennessee, and arch-rival Alabama.

The Associated Press poll statistics show Auburn with the 11th best national record of being ranked in the final AP Poll[7] and 12th overall (ranked 470 times out of 970 polls since the poll began in 1936), with an average ranking of 11.26.[8] Since the Coaches Poll first released a final poll in 1950, Auburn has 25 seasons where the team finished in the top 20 in both the AP and Coaches Polls.[9]

Auburn has the 13th most wins in D-1A college football.[10] In terms of winning percentage, Auburn ranks as the 9th most successful team in the past 25 years with a 71.6% win rate (214–83–5)[11] and 12th over the last 50 years with 63.0% (386–176–10).[12] Of the 93 current I-A football programs that been active since Auburn first fielded a team 116 years ago, Auburn ranks 13th in winning percentage over that period.[13]

Heisman links
Three Auburn players, Pat Sullivan in 1971, Bo Jackson in 1985, and Cam Newton in 2010 have won the Heisman Trophy. The Trophy’s namesake, John Heisman, coached at Auburn from 1895 until 1899. Auburn is the only school where Heisman coached (among others, Georgia Tech and Clemson) that has produced a Heisman Trophy winner

Recent History Lesson for Langley

December 13th, 2010
5:37 pm

While Auburn football has a long and storied history, the Tigers have been quite successful in recent years. Since the expansion of the SEC and the split into divisions, Auburn has been the winningest SEC West team in league play since the conference realignment in 1992.[21] As of the end of the 2009 season, Auburn teams have won 33 of their last 50 conference matchups including 16 of the last 24 SEC away games. The Tigers seem to perform best when facing their greatest challenge as, in addition to the success on the road in the SEC, Auburn teams have won 9 of their last 16 matchups versus top-10 opponents. The Tigers also have done well protecting Jordan-Hare Stadium, particularly at night where the home team has won 18 of the 22 night games since 2000. Over the five seasons prior to 2009, Auburn won 47 games.

FAN

December 13th, 2010
5:37 pm

Kirby Smart turned down his alma mater, what makes you think he’s gonna go to fla??? like last year that would be a lateral move. why leave the best program in the sec to join fla?? especially since he’ll be a HC next year. keep wishing gaytor fans

TrishaDishaWarEagle

December 13th, 2010
5:38 pm

I should win a trophy for creating so many different Auburn fans to support our fine University on this blog!

@ed

December 13th, 2010
5:38 pm

Stay classy? Hell Florida just did what 90% of the SEC is thinking about Auburn right now by making that announcement when they did,Disrespect them.Sure they did it on purpose,i’m lsu and i loved it.

Atlanta Gator

December 13th, 2010
5:38 pm

In fairness to our Georgia Bulldog rivals, having just hired Will Muschamp as our new head coach, if we also get Kirby Smart as our new defensive coordinator, we promise not to take all of UGA’s talented young alumni who are assistant coaches. Really. We promise. You can keep Mike Bobo.

= )

Mongo

December 13th, 2010
5:39 pm

Mongo like Trisha. Trisha cute like Auburn cheerleaders.

Recent History Lesson for Langley

December 13th, 2010
5:39 pm

There have been 245 Auburn players drafted into the National Football League, with 15 earning 30 All-Pro honors, 27 making Pro Bowl appearances, and 23 playing in the Super Bowl.

The Dow Jones College-Football Success Index ranked Auburn as the eighth best program in the nation, with the second highest Draft Value which indicate “that a school’s players perform better than NFL scouts seem to expect”.[31] Auburn is tied (with Miami) for second most Top 5 NFL Draft picks this decade, and The Plains have produced 25 first round draft picks overall.

Running back U

Cadillac Williams evades a tackler.Auburn has several former running backs currently playing that position in the NFL (see below). They carry on a long legacy of top NFL backs from Auburn such as Tucker Frederickson, William Andrews, Joe Cribbs, James Brooks, Rudi Johnson, Stephen Davis, James Bostic, Brandon Jacobs, Lionel James, Brent Fullwood, Carnell Williams, Ronnie Brown, Heath Evans, Kenny Irons, Ben Tate, Tommie Agee and Bo Jackson. Over the years 1987-2008, there have been 15 Tiger running backs drafted into the NFL, with several more successfully signing as undrafted free-agents.

Current NFL players
There are a number of former Auburn players currently listed on NFL rosters. These players include nine running backs, seven linebackers, six wide receivers, three tight ends, eight cornerbacks, one quarterback, one placekicker and twenty linemen including six nose tackle, six guards, five offensive tackles and three defensive ends.

Recent History Lesson for Langley

December 13th, 2010
5:41 pm

Auburn football teams have been invited to participate in 35 total bowls and have garnered a record of 20–13–2. Auburn ranks as one of the best programs in the nation in success in bowl games. Auburn ranks 16th in all-time bowl appearances with 35, 13th in all-time bowl wins with 20, and tied for 22nd in all-time bowl win percentage at .600. On January 1, 2010, Auburn defeated Northwestern in the Outback Bowl in overtime, 38-35. Auburn has won 3 straight bowl games and 6 out of their last 7.

Recent History Lesson for Langley

December 13th, 2010
5:43 pm

Total Appearances in the Final AP Poll

——————————————————————————–
Total Appearances Appearances in the Top 10 Appearances in the Top 5 Appearances at #1 1936-Present 2000s 1990s 1980s 1970s 1960s 1950s 1940s 1930s Top 10 Top 25 Top 50 All

RK
Team
App*
Avg RK
High RK

1.
Michigan
55
9.15
1

2.
Oklahoma
49
7.39
1

3.
Notre Dame
49
7.71
1

4.
Ohio State
48
8.40
1

5.
Alabama
45
7.98
1

6.
Nebraska
44
8.68
1

7.
Texas
43
9.28
1

8.
USC
42
8.50
1

9.
Tennessee
42
9.86
1

10.
Penn State
38
9.87
1

11.
Auburn
34
11.26
1

12.
LSU
32
9.53
1

13.
Georgia
31
10.19
1

14.
UCLA
30
10.10
2

15.
Miami (FL)
29
8.62
1

16.
Florida
26
9.81
1

17.
Arkansas
26
10.46
2

18.
Florida State
25
7.88
1

19.
Texas A&M
23
11.70
1

20.
Clemson
23
13.87
1

21.
Washington
22
11.00
2

22.
Georgia Tech
22
12.00
2

23.
Mississippi
21
11.52
2

24.
Michigan State
20
8.40
1

25.
Iowa

Driving Ms Dooley

December 13th, 2010
5:44 pm

I agree Trish. You’re the best!

jm

December 13th, 2010
5:45 pm

You gotta be kidding about Florida winning the east in 2011. South Carolina, which will be much better, will repeat.

BAMA dude

December 13th, 2010
5:46 pm

Leave it to a Barner to brag about finishing in the Top 25. Bravo.

Recent History Lesson for Langley

December 13th, 2010
5:46 pm

So on Dec. 2, 1989, No. 2 Alabama came to Auburn with a 10-0 record. The No. 11 Tigers were 8-2. Two hours before the game, an estimated 20,000 fans, nearly one-quarter of the 85,319 (a record that stood for 12 years), gathered on the east and west sides of Donahue Drive. A writer from the Atlanta Journal-Constitution and I stood on the west side, about two-thirds of the way down the hill.

The Auburn fans roared, their eyes glazed with a mixture of fervor, pride, passion, and perhaps a touch of the Jack Daniels. We were five or six deep and couldn’t get any closer to the street. We were also hemmed in, and didn’t have the zeal-fueled adrenaline to ward off the elbows and other parts of the bouncing, heaving, deafening masses. I no longer had any interest in taking notes, which was just as well, because the noise and the lack of space made it impossible. My own adrenaline kicked in, and I worked my way into open space.

Tiger Walk is no longer spontaneous. It is now almost a production. But the height of emotion it reached in 1989 will be a watermark for years to come.

“You never will see that commotion again,” Housel says. “The Children of Israel entered the Promised Land for the first time only once.”

Auburn took the lead in the opening minutes of that 1989 game and pulled away in the second half for a 30-20 victory. But the victory on the field, while important, paled beside the victory off the field.

Because when Alabama arrived on campus, Auburn had arrived, too.

On Saturday, they’ll walk the Tiger Walk again, to prove it.

Ivan Maisel is a senior writer at ESPN.com

Mongo

December 13th, 2010
5:46 pm

Trish cute, but Trish make Mongo weenie burn.

Randy

December 13th, 2010
5:47 pm

Hey recent history……………better hang on. Some more history ma be coming down the pike and I think it just might be history you as soon just forget. All Burn = SMU

Atlanta Gator 3IML

December 13th, 2010
5:53 pm

On the way back from an afternoon appointment today, I was listening to the UGA alumni on 680 the FAN radio. Interestingly, most Dawgs fans were fairly adamantly unhappy about Will Muschamp accepting the Florida job. On the other hand, I just checked the Gainesville Sun website, and most of the bloggers are genuinely excited at Muschamp’s hiring, and are already chattering happily about the prospect of Kirby Smart becoming the Gators’ new defensive coordinator. Apparently, Gators fans have no problem with a couple of well-qualified Dawg alumni leading the Gators football team . . . just as long as they don’t make a habit of losing to the Evil Genius.

*grin*

Randy

December 13th, 2010
5:56 pm

Gonna be bad for those dawgs to lose to their own. Man that is gonna hurt.

KR

December 13th, 2010
5:56 pm

ESPN is reporting that Malzahn has turned down Vanderbilt. Story says he gets a big raise and a contract extension from Auburn.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=5915527

Beast from the East

December 13th, 2010
5:58 pm

Nice story on how Foley decided on Muschamp.
http://www.gatorzone.com/story.php?id=19415

Mongo

December 13th, 2010
5:58 pm

“Trish cute, but Trish make Mongo weenie burn.”

HEY! MONGO has blog stalker now! Mongo is famous.

Mongo like Trisha, but Mongo not like Trisha THAT MUCH.

dan mullen

December 13th, 2010
5:59 pm

Muschamp over me?? Thats a joke!

Gus?

December 13th, 2010
6:00 pm

You turn down a HC job? Dude, I know its Vandy but you win there and you write your own ticket.okay then,I guess we see how good you really are next year.

Nurse Ratched

December 13th, 2010
6:11 pm

Randy the loony bin is calling AGAIN! They said you were off your meds & wandered off……Randy flew over the cuckoo’s nest LoL

wreckmaniac

December 13th, 2010
6:13 pm

Everybody at UGA wanted Muschamp last year when Richt made a change. Such stupid ideas can only come from this crowd. Muschamp and K Smart are both ready to take any top head coaching job in the nation and the UGA crowd thinks these two are willing to come back to “good ole Athens” to be an assistant. Where else do such halucinations occur ? Nothing is going to change. FL would beat UGA with Chan Gailey as coach.

Bama Dude Is a Gomer

December 13th, 2010
6:15 pm

No “Dude” just pointing out that AU has consistently finished higher than UGA, Florida, & LSU. And since the re-alignment in 1992, AU has been the most successful team in the entire SEC West. Far from mediocrity, as Langley laughably claims…….

Mongo

December 13th, 2010
6:16 pm

Beast—-Thanks for the link. Good story on Foley’s decision-making process. One good face-to-face and Muschamp was hired. It’s not like they didn’t do their due diligence on the guy, and it’s not like he’s not a known commodity. You might be able to take your time in hiring a baseball coach or a soccer coach, but not your football coach, not in this day and age. Gotta get it done before a bidding war breaks out, or he accepts another job.

And I have absolutely no problem with Foley’s process and decision whether he spoke with Stoops, Harbaugh, Mullen or Peterson first. Stoops is happy where he is, and he turned Foley down six years ago. Harbaugh is waiting for Rich Rodriguez to get canned. Mullen? Maybe Foley decided that it was time for new blood to reinvigorate the program; maybe after two seasons, Mullen thought it was too soon to jump again. I do know that Foley was somewhat reserved about the idea of Spurrier returning six years ago. Petersen? Don’t know, don’t care, I think Foley got a keeper, but only time will tell.

Mongo

December 13th, 2010
6:19 pm

See? Mongo is articulate when he has to be.

Bizzaro Mongo

December 13th, 2010
6:26 pm

Mongo ego articulate.

Mongo id? Not so much…

Ed (The Original)

December 13th, 2010
6:26 pm

Has FireWillMuschamp.com come up yet?

Mongo

December 13th, 2010
6:28 pm

Ego? Id? Big words for Mongo.

Bizzaro Mongo

December 13th, 2010
6:30 pm

That why Mongo have big pencil.

Beast from the East

December 13th, 2010
6:34 pm

Candygram for Mongo!

Mongo

December 13th, 2010
6:34 pm

Bizarro Mongo is smart man.

AFDawg

December 13th, 2010
6:36 pm

Mr. Football (cough, cough), I was perfectly fine with Florida’s timing of their announcement. I know you’re trying to elevate yourself above “the fray” and be an “unquestionable good guy giving Cam all benefit of the doubt” — but you have to realize that most fans of college football do not like what they are seeing. Things would be entirely different if Cam had enrolled as a freshman at Auburn. But, the truth is, he enrolled at Florida first and left that school under pressure due to burglary, academic cheating and unpaid traffic tickets. The guy had total disregard for the law or the rules. Then he plays at a junior college to get the heat off his back. Then his Dad starts selling him to the highest bidder for the “rights” for him to play for that team. Auburn turns out to be the highest bidder. Now Cam will run off to the pros to make his millions — laughing all the way to the bank. Essentially, Auburn will have gone out and bought themselves a championship. Who does Auburn think they are — the NY Yankees? Essentially they will have witnessed the Cam services for one whole entire year — wow, isn’t that impressive. A lot of folks out there have seen what has happened (and maybe Florida’s Athletic Department is one of them), and don’t like what they see or what is happening. I am so darn tired about hearing about the scandal, the investigation, etc. How can this possibly be good for college football? Let me tell you as you will find out in the future — it isn’t. Thank goodness my kid plays high school sports — I’ll enjoy watching it because it is still clear of the cheating and corruption.

BAMA dude

December 13th, 2010
6:38 pm

Bama Dude Is a Gomer
December 13th, 2010
6:15 pm

No “Dude” just pointing out that AU has consistently finished higher than UGA, Florida, & LSU. And since the re-alignment in 1992, AU has been the most successful team in the entire SEC West. Far from mediocrity, as Langley laughably claims……

Sigh…

First off, the Barn hasn’t consistently finished ahead of those schools. Check your list- the Barn’s avg. ranking is 11.26, higher than anyone in the top 19. Being 11th on the list just means that the Barn has finished in the Top 25 two (LSU) or three (UGA) more times. Like I said, enthusiastically average.

And no, the Barn isn’t the most successful in the West. Success is defined by championships. Bama has won seven West titles, Barn and LSU tie for second at four each. Now run along, I will address you no more.

Addazio

December 13th, 2010
7:21 pm

Muschamp, I’m available.

Bama Dude Is a Gomer

December 13th, 2010
7:26 pm

Bama Dude Auburn has won more SEC championships this decade (2) then Alabama (1). They have won more SEC west championships in the last decade (3) than Alabama ( 2). After Jan. 10, if AU wins they SHOULD have 2 NC’s this decade ( Counting ‘04), Bama has 1. Who has been more successful over the past decade? The answer is Auburn. And the 90’s before that doesn’t even really count for Bama because they were found to have broke the rules BIG-TIME during the Gene Stallings era. Plus Alabama was also forced to VACATE 21 wins from the last decade that you are not even accounting for. Mullet math just don’t add up Gomer….

Mr. Barnhart

December 13th, 2010
7:29 pm

Barnhart also had a prediction at the start of this football season.”Alabama will the the 2010 Nat.Championship with out a doubt.” I wound not take Barnhart to chicken fight to and gamble my money.

Bama Dude Is a Gomer

December 13th, 2010
7:37 pm

Alabama’s record since 1996: 80-60
Auburn’s record since 1996:127-60

Hmmmm……

Delbert D.

December 13th, 2010
7:37 pm

Malzahn should be smart enough not to go to Vanderbilt. That’s a job for a Div. 1aa guy.

There is only 1 Ron Zook.

Al Golden might be a good hire. Can he work with talent is the only question.

Bama Dude Is a Gomer

December 13th, 2010
7:40 pm

6 SEC championships for Auburn since 1983
4 SEC championships for Alabama since 1983

Hmmmm……

War Eagle

December 13th, 2010
7:48 pm

I was shocked at Muschamp hire at Florida, it seems he would be ‘coach in waiting at UGA”. He will do a great job at Florida having experience at LSU, Auburn and Texas and being on the defensive side. He will bring in Applewhite experience at Bama and Texas. Hard combo to beat.

BAMA dude

December 13th, 2010
7:50 pm

War Eagle
December 13th, 2010
7:48 pm

I was shocked at Muschamp hire at Florida, it seems he would be ‘coach in waiting at UGA”. He will do a great job at Florida having experience at LSU, Auburn and Texas and being on the defensive side. He will bring in Applewhite experience at Bama and Texas. Hard combo to beat.

Applewhite is awful.

Bama Dude Is a Gomer

December 13th, 2010
7:56 pm

This is for you Bama Dude! Auburn has won 2 out of the last 3 decades & this one is off to a great start….

Did Auburn have a better decade than Alabama? Yes
Published: Thursday, January 21, 2010, 11:03 AM
Kevin Scarbinsky, Birmingham News

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Auburn had plenty to celebrate in the last 10 years. (Birmingham News / Mark Almond)Nothing like the end of the decade to spark a flood of lists.

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Share 523 Comments ESPN.com has been pouring out all kinds of them.

The latest: SEC football programs of the decade.

Here is SEC blogger Chris Low’s list:

1. Florida

2. LSU

3. Georgia.

4. Auburn.

5. Alabama.

Hello!

I could go on, but the discussion around here starts right there.

That order may look strange, considering the way Alabama finished the decade, but if you look at the last 10 years as a whole, Low has it exactly right.

Auburn did have a better decade than Alabama.

Like Alabama, Auburn won one SEC title, played in two SEC Championship Games and had one undefeated season.

Alabama had the edge with one national championship.

Auburn had an edge with a 7-3 record against Alabama in the last 10 games.

Hence, Auburn had a better decade.

That’s ESPN’s opinion, and I concur.

Using the same criteria, in the in-state competition, you have to say that Alabama won the 1990s, and Auburn won the 1980s.

Don’t you?

Let me hear you.

Bama Dude Is a Gomer

December 13th, 2010
7:58 pm

Auburn had an edge with a 7-3 record against Alabama in the last 10 games.

Hence, Auburn had a better decade.

That’s ESPN’s opinion

BAMA dude

December 13th, 2010
7:58 pm

Since 1960- Bama 16 SEC titles, Barn 6
Since 1990- Bama 3 SEC titles, Barn 2

Cherry picking FTW!

Only stat that matters-

Total SEC titles:

Alabama 22
Tennessee 13
Georgia 12
LSU 10
Florida 8
Barn 7
Mississippi 6
Georgia Tech* 5

Bama Dude Is a Gomer

December 13th, 2010
8:03 pm

Bama booster convicted in recruiting scandal found dead
CBS SportsLine.com wire reports ^ | April 11, 2006 | AP NEWS

NASHVILLE, Tenn. — An Alabama booster convicted of bribing a high school football coach to get a top recruit for the Crimson Tide was found dead Tuesday in his Memphis home, and police were investigating it as a homicide.

Logan Young was convicted of bribing a high school coach to get a top recruit for the Tide. (AP) Police hadn’t yet confirmed the body was that of Logan Young, but his defense attorney said it was the Alabama booster.

“We’re treating it as a mystery homicide,” Sgt. Vince Higgins said in a telephone interview.

He said officials assume the victim was Young but needed to use fingerprints and dental records to confirm the identity.

“Suffice it to say, there was quite a physical struggle in this and this individual was injured severely,” he said.

Nashville defense attorney Jim Neal said he had been told the body was found by a housekeeper.

“I’ve had two or three calls about it, all to the same end, found killed in his home. … I heard that there was blood everywhere. That is all I know,” Neal said.

Higgins said Young’s housekeeper found the body after she arrived for work this morning. The body had not been removed from the house and no family members immediately arrived at the house.

The 65-year-old Young was convicted under federal law of money laundering and racketeering conspiracy in the case involving the peddling of defensive lineman Albert Means.

Young was sentenced last June to six months in prison and six months home confinement then two years supervised release. But he had been allowed to remain free pending his appeal.

His attorneys had argued Young needed a kidney transplant and could not get proper medical care in prison.

Former high school coach Lynn Lang, who avoided jail time after pleading guilty to taking part in a racketeering conspiracy, testified against Young, saying the booster paid $150,000 to get Means to sign with Alabama in 2000.

The NCAA has said it believed Means was unaware his football talents were being brokered. The player later transferred to Memphis, where he finished his college career.

Lang testified at Young’s trial that other universities, including Georgia, Kentucky, Arkansas, Memphis, Mississippi, Michigan State and Tennessee, offered him money or jobs to get Means.

No charges were filed against anyone with those schools. Three former coaches, Rip Scherer of Memphis, Jim Donnan of Georgia and Alabama assistant Ivy Williams, testified Lang was lying.

Means’ recruitment became part of an NCAA investigation that led to sanctions against Alabama in 2002, costing the Crimson Tide scholarships and bowl appearances.

Bama Dude Is a Gomer

December 13th, 2010
8:04 pm

An Alabama booster convicted of bribing a high school football coach to get a top recruit for the Crimson Tide was found dead Tuesday in his Memphis home, and police were investigating it as a homicide.

Logan Young was convicted of bribing a high school coach to get a top recruit for the Tide. (AP) Police hadn’t yet confirmed the body was that of Logan Young, but his defense attorney said it was the Alabama booster.

“We’re treating it as a mystery homicide,” Sgt. Vince Higgins said in a telephone interview.

He said officials assume the victim was Young but needed to use fingerprints and dental records to confirm the identity.

“Suffice it to say, there was quite a physical struggle in this and this individual was injured severely,” he said.

Bama Dude Is a Gomer

December 13th, 2010
8:07 pm

Bama Dude do you think Logan Young REALLY committed suicide?????

Bama Dude Is a Gomer

December 13th, 2010
8:09 pm

Hey Bama Dude who was Albert Means again I forget?

oledawg

December 13th, 2010
8:15 pm

Looks like the Mayans could be right about time ending soon.

Bama Dude Is a Gomer

December 13th, 2010
8:20 pm

My bad I meant to say “did he really die by accident”? LoL

War Eagle

December 13th, 2010
8:40 pm

What so bad with Major Applewhite, could it be was`nt a Saban kiss a** man and was run off to Texas, one best programs in the country?? He seem to have high respect everywhere except Capstone,

BAMA dude

December 13th, 2010
8:46 pm

War Eagle
December 13th, 2010
8:40 pm

What so bad with Major Applewhite, could it be was`nt a Saban kiss a** man and was run off to Texas, one best programs in the country?? He seem to have high respect everywhere except Capstone,

If by “not a Saban kiss a**” you mean, “wanted to run a gimmicky offense instead of a real one” then you are correct.

wreckmaniac

December 13th, 2010
9:04 pm

Recent History for Langley: Does that mean that a decent guy like Bill Curry will be fired if Auburn loses to Bama as happened in ‘89 ? If you’re going to tell a story why not tell all of it ?

Chuck Uga

December 13th, 2010
9:22 pm

Tony,
Since you are predicting a Florida SEC East title in 2011, I presume you will also predict that 2011 will be Mark Richt’s final season in Athens? Also, with some predicting a Tennessee SEC East title in 2011 (a virtual impossibility), then 2011 will most certainly be Richt’s swan song should he lose to Tennessee and Florida. Personally, I don’t see much of a chance that either school wins the SEC East. It will be Georgia or South Carolina, and that is only because Tennessee’s schedule is too difficult and Florida’s staff change will hurt them in at least one or two games. Sorry, but first year coaches just don’t win like that.

MikeP

December 13th, 2010
9:55 pm

Muschamp is more than ready to be an SEC head coach, and Florida has the talent to win the east with ease next year, assuming that Richt keeps on coaching great recruits down instead of up.

When UGA installed the outdated 3-4 defense, they set the stage for a bunch of 6-6 seasons.

Give up 31 points to Florida, 49 to Auburn and 34 to Tech in the last three games? C’mon, Florida couldn’t score 31 against the Sisters of the Poor this season. Better get Willie Martinez back!

Chuck Uga

December 13th, 2010
10:18 pm

Hey Mike, clearl you need to learn a little more about football. You cannot run the 3-4 with no nose tackle and no experienced D-linemen. UGA had nothing to offer on the DL this season other than a solid rush end. if you cannot get to the QB and also don’t have a lot of experience in the secondary, you are burnt toast. That is why UGA game up so many points. Outside of that, even I cannot believe UGA broke several school records on offense scoring 30+ points in several games. Can you imagine if they had a defense and a solid ground attack? Wow.

The Baseball Coach

December 13th, 2010
10:19 pm

The Golden hire by Miami follows their usual pattern. They have never hired a big name coach from a big name school, and none of them were “names” until after they came to Miami: Schellenberger was a Dolphins asst., Jimmy J wasn’t a name when he came from a 30-25 record at Okla State, no one knew Dennis Erickson when he came from Wash State, Butch was a Cowboys assistant, and Coker and Shannon were Miami assistants.

Way Down South Dawg

December 13th, 2010
10:40 pm

Tony: Tell me why you think the documentary of SMU’s high-flying crooked past followed the Heisman Awards. Auburn is destined to hit the wall!—They are already DEAD!The bullet just hasnt gotten there yet.

For the life of me, I just don’t understand why you continue to beat the Cam Newton drum. I really think your work is tops, but rethink your position on the War Eagle. They are about to go down in flames !

Cam will be in the NFL with that big $hit eating grin on his face believing that he really pulled this thing over on all of us—especially you. Your buddy Brent Musburger stated that he didn’t think the NCAA would ever hand down the Death-Penalty again, mayby you agree, I don’t know, but they darned sure should.

You in the media have a responsibility to call them out on this morality issue; what in the hell has happened to the whole idea of sportsmanship? Has it too been reduced to $portsman$hip?

AUhasthe1st

December 13th, 2010
11:07 pm

loophole Heisman winner.All in baby!

MikeP

December 13th, 2010
11:36 pm

You dawgs need to get current. If teams of skilled investigators from the SEC office (working for ten months) and the NCAA (working for five months) find not one bit of evidence, it’s time to face reality. Auburn and Cam Newton did nothing wrong. Nothing is coming.

Quoting Sports Illustrated writer Lars Anderson last Friday: “Sources inside the NCAA tell me the Auburn/Cam Newton case is over with. It’s done, dead. Time for people to move on.”

Quoting ESPN writer Joe Schad last Saturday: “The NCAA is very satisfied with that investigation. The case is closed.”

You dawgs need to turn your attention to why Richt recruits top-five classes every year and can’t do better than 6-6.

Auburn is 13-0, SEC champs and heading to the BCS game. Cam Newton won the Heisman, Nick Fairley won the Lombardi award and Gene Chizik is National Coach of the Year. it doesn’t get any better than that!

It’s great to be an Auburn Tiger!

JRW7

December 13th, 2010
11:44 pm

AUBURN CHEATS!

JRW7

December 13th, 2010
11:45 pm

CAM IS A SCAM!

joe

December 14th, 2010
12:35 am

Barnhart trolling for blogs. End of year bonus time at the AJC for the writer with the most
blog hits. Schultz probably will win.
Next years theme: More out of sight stories and hard hitting journalism to get more blog hits. Count
on it.

Richt > Muschamp

December 14th, 2010
2:26 am

muschamp his having trouble getting a staff together at uf. He will not last 4 years down there–mark it down. Richt will own muschamp for years. Dawgs win the SEC in 2011!!!

Coach O

December 14th, 2010
6:59 am

There’s no way that I would take a job at one of the 3 SEC schools that has been tainted by the presence of Cam and Cecil Newton. I don’t doubt that the NCAA would like to see this whole story disappear. They have made every effort to sweep it under the rug so far, but those damn pesky reporters just won’t keep their noses out of it. The same thing happened at USC. I figured that Florida had their hiney covered, but the only reasonable explanation for what’s going on in Gainesville right now is that Meyer and Foley fear that they don’t.

chazzo

December 14th, 2010
7:06 am

I think Muschamp is rolling the dice at well. UF may be a dream job, but the natives are restless right now. Florida faithful were screaming about their OC all season. The first post-Tebow year was messy. No offensive identity and a weak D. AJ was throwing their players around like they were rag dolls. While he will now be a multi-millionaire, he is walking into a tough situation. Urban left things messy, and there are a lot of disillusioned young players. I actually wish him well.

UF should have waited until after the Hesiman announcement. You can’t tell me either that there isn’t some satisfaction in Gainesville about the ability of this hiring to get in Georgia fans’ skin. They are petty down there. Ultimately, I look for a house cleaning in five years.

Cam "I didn't cheat or steal a laptop" Newton

December 14th, 2010
7:07 am

Only pasess I never completed at UF were my dump off of the laptop out the window and three “screened” passes on my tests, but hey, dids ya see me on Letterman last night?

Atlanta Gator

December 14th, 2010
7:27 am

Au contraire, mon ami. The majority of Gainesville natives are not so much “restless,” as they are hopeful, welcoming and generally pleased given Muschamp’s strong background. Local media is generally supportive:

1. http://www.gatorsports.com/article/20101213/ARTICLES/101219806/1090/gatorsfootball?p=1&tc=pg&tc=ar

Atlanta Gator

December 14th, 2010
7:37 am

chazzo—-By the way, I have yet to see any serious opposition from Florida alumni and Gators fans on the basis of where he went to undergraduate school. Far from being a “petty” group of fans, it appears that most Gators think Muschamp is a good hire in the tradition of Jeremy Foley’s other young, up-and-coming coaches who have proven very successful in Gainesville.

However, your own comment would seem to qualify for your chosen adjective. You would do well not to attribute personal qualities to others that others might ascribe to you, lest objective observers believe that your opinion is rooted in the Freudian concept of transference.

As for my own opinion, I think Muschamp is a very solid choice as the Gators’ new head coach, and, frankly, I am far more concerned about his choice of offensive coordinator. Does that make me “petty?”

chazzo

December 14th, 2010
8:11 am

Atlanta Gator,
It is rather petty of you to come up with some pseudo-psych babble about my personality, having never met me and based on a blurb on a sports thread. By the way, as smart as you intend to sound, you blew the definition of transference and obviously don’t know what you are talking about when it comes to Freud. That again makes you petty. Also, you should take note, that in my post I said that I wished him well (a very un-petty thing to say). If you think that a first time head coach will not have his hands full, following Meyer and inheriting a young team in transition, I question your knowledge about football as well as your knowledge about the father of psychoanalysis.

BTW, I am basing my “restless” statement on what i have heard coming out of the mouths of all my Gator friends all season, usually involving play calling. You see if you did know me well enough to make any kind of judgement about my personality, you would know that I grew up in central Florida and have a bevy of UF friends. I still think it was petty to announce the hiring during Heisman time.

Furthermore, who are all these young, up-and-coming coaches? There was Meyer, and…

chazzo

December 14th, 2010
9:28 am

What difference does it make? Cam is going pro after one stellar year. AU will still have a solid team in 2011 but no Cam. So, friends, it just doesn’t matter.

All that aside, I will still pull for the SEC team in the NC.

Dooley may turn about to be a great coach… or not. Who knows? Same with Muschamp…. and, for that matter, Grantham. Time will tell. I would say based on MSU’s performance that Mullen is destined to be a great one. Bama and LSU are solid.

There is an unrealistic expectation placed on new coaches. (Although, one cycle seems to be that there are great builders of teams, and there are closers. We’ve seen it time and time again. One coach spends years putting a phenomenal team together but can’t quite reach the promised land. A new coach steps in and rides it to a championship then rests on his laurels.)

We love college football because so much chance is involved and sometimes dumb luck. It is all about the chemistry: the right coaches, the right players maturing at the times, the right schedule, and usually three or four crucial play calls throughout a season going right. It is exciting. It is great to see players develop, especially when we get to see them develop character and overcome obstacles. Who cares if a bunch of rich alum can spend a bunch of cash to put together a team so that they can brag?

So whether we love or hate coaches, players or programs and even though we bicker and snipe at each other (out of fun, hopefully), demand quality from your program. Demand excellence and academic achievement. Let’s all enjoy watching young men play out their dreams and achieve great things. Happy Holidays!

SEC_Analyst

December 14th, 2010
12:09 pm

Sounds about right. Happy Holidays chazzo!

Atlanta Gator

December 14th, 2010
8:27 pm

chazzo—-Calling me “petty” does not make it so. Shoot, why not play the race card, too, while you’re at it? That’s the usual last refuge of someone who attributes his own qualities to others. Try it, but I suspect no one will buy that taunt anymore than they will buy your accusation of me being “petty.” There are too many people who have read my AJC blog posts, and with whom I have traded both serious comments and good-natured jabs over the past five years, to swallow that load of silliness.

Gators being petty about the timing of the Muschamp announcement? No, not at all. The story was breaking on the internet as Foley was flying back from Austin Saturday afternoon, and they decided to get ahead of the rumors before it stepped on their own roll-out of their new coach. The original plan was to have a press conference today, at which Muschamp would have been announced and introduced. Instead, it was only an introduction. First Rule of Good Publica Relations: Always control the narrative. Once the Muschamp story started to leak, the media, bloggers and columnists and ESPN talking heads would have had the first chance to define the Muschamp hire. Instead the Florida sports information guys decided to take control of their own story. That’s smart, not petty. But, hey, let’s always try to impugn the motives of others without listening to their story first, right?

As for the young, up-and-coming coaches that Jeremy Foley has hired in his eighteen years as the Florida athletic director, they include current crop includes women’s soccer coach Becky Burleigh (11 SEC and 1 NCAA championships), basketball coach Billy Donovan (3 SEC and 2 NCAA championships), football coach Urban Meyer (2 SEC and 2 BCS championships), gymnastics coach Rhonda Faehn (1 SEC championship), track coach Mike Holloway (6 SEC and 1 NCAA championships), softball coach Tim Walton (2 SEC championships and 2 WCWS appearances), baseball coach Kevin O’Sullivan (1 SEC championship and 1 CWS appearance), women’s tennis coach Roland Thornqvist (6 SEC and 1 NCAA championships). And that doesn’t even include established Gators coaches that Foley has managed to keep in the fold such as men’s golf coach Buddy Alexander (6 SEC and 2 NCAA championships) and volleyball coach Mary Wise (19 SEC championships in 21 years!), or his newest hires Amanda Butler, Jan Dowling and Amanda O’Leary, from whom much is expected. O’Leary, the new women’s lacrosse coach, had the top-ranked recruiting class in the program’s first year (2010). So, yes, you could say that Foley has a pretty decent record of hiring “young, up and coming” coaching talent.

But, hey, I’m just trying to sound smart, right?

Next time you poke this Gator, I suggest you bring your “A” game, not your unsubstantiated opinions.

chazzo

December 14th, 2010
10:41 pm

Whatever Dude… this is a silly bunch of crap.

Atlanta Gator

December 14th, 2010
10:48 pm

“Whatever.” The sarcastic response of an insecure teenager who has been told that he is wrong by the adults.

Atlanta Gator

December 14th, 2010
11:40 pm

One of the several news stories and blogs that began to circulate on the internet last Saturday afternoon regarding the possibility/likelihood of Florida’s hiring of Muschamp:

http://andreu.blogs.gatorsports.com/10638/it-might-be-muschamp/

Please note the time on the article: 4:54 p.m. Foley hadn’t even landed in Gainesville yet, and the Florida sports information division guys were afraid they were going to lose control of the announcement. Muschamp’s hiring was announced little more than three and a half hours later. That’s lightning speed, especially given that Foley had offered and Muschamp had accepted the job only earlier that same afternoon.

Sorry, guys, but there was no “petty” conspiracy to suck the air out of Cam Newton’s Heisman ceremony. Once again, we have members of the media fanning the flames of another non-story in an effort to sell newspapers (or at least drive web hits).

Coach O

December 15th, 2010
7:25 am

@Atlanta Gator

It was a good run — while it lasted. I know that it will be hard for someone with such a high opinion of himself to become accustomed to mediocrity in his favorite football program, but you’re a smart guy… You’ll learn to cope.

coping skills

December 15th, 2010
7:51 am

I’m going with the Gator on this one

Atlanta Gator

December 15th, 2010
8:02 am

@Coach O

My self-esteem is based on something a little more substantive than whether the Gators win or lose a football game.

Robert

December 15th, 2010
9:17 am

59bulldawg – I agree!

chazzo

December 15th, 2010
9:24 am

So the guy who uses (actually misuses) the term “transference” to say I am rubber you are glue, the guy who babbles some irrelevant incoherence about a race card…. that guy. That guy is calling me immature, now?

Atlanta Gator,

For someone who feels perfectly secure and not worried about this new hiring or anything else regarding UF, you certainly are defensive. Yes, going on about minutia like Foley’s flight schedule is petty, irrelevant, and defensive. No one really believes or cares if Foley plotted to release this announcement to overshadow Cam based on some stored up resentment. The whole thing is preposterous. The strands of that conspiracy are just too plain thin. The motivation just isn’t there. All that it is good for is getting a guy like you worked up.

I am glad that your self-esteem is based on something a substantive that whether the Gators win or lose a football game. Have a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year.

Saban Looks Like Willie B

December 15th, 2010
12:21 pm

Bama Dude Is A Gomer!!!!

Atlanta Gator

December 15th, 2010
1:32 pm

“No one really believes or cares if Foley plotted to release this announcement to overshadow Cam based on some stored up resentment. The whole thing is preposterous. The strands of that conspiracy are just too plain thin. The motivation just isn’t there. All that it is good for is getting a guy like you worked up.” Chazzo, 9:24 a.m., 12/15

“UF should have waited until after the Hesiman announcement. You can’t tell me either that there isn’t some satisfaction in Gainesville about the ability of this hiring to get in Georgia fans’ skin. They are petty down there.” Chazzo, 7:06 a.m., 12/14

Good lord, son, you’re not arguing with me. You’re arguing with yourself. So, which is it: the Florida athletic association, the most professional and successful in the SEC over the last 20 years, is “petty?” Or the “preposterous” conspiracy theory about Foley intentionally stepping on Cam Newton’s Heisman ceremony isn’t true?

Coach O

December 15th, 2010
2:57 pm

“@Coach O

My self-esteem is based on something a little more substantive than whether the Gators win or lose a football game.”

Remember that over the next few years – it’ll come in handy. :-)

But seriously, it was a good run.

Atlanta Gator

December 15th, 2010
3:08 pm

@Coach O

Thanks for the concern for my emotional well-being. In the wise words of Jimmy Buffett, “If it all blows up and goes to hell . . . we did it for the stories we could tell.”

Beau

December 16th, 2010
4:07 pm

Really, Tony? Muschamp hasn’t hired one assistant and no one has a clue what next year’s Florida team will look like…but they’re going to win the SEC east? Good grief.