Are the Gators rolling the dice with Muschamp?

Even when the regular season is over, it ain’t over. So what did we learn, and what do we still want to know?:

1. Are the Gators rolling the dice with Muschamp? Urban Meyer announced his “retirement” last Wednesday after six years as the head coach at Florida. In the next 48 hours everybody from Bob Stoops, to Jon Gruden (there is that name again), to Chris Peterson, to Dan Mullen to Chip Kelly was considered to be the  front runner for one of the top five jobs in college football. Then suddenly, at 8:28 p.m. on Saturday (note the time) Florida announces that it had hired Texas defensive coordinator Will Muschamp as its next head coach. The press conference will be Tuesday. Some consider it a risk by athletics director Jeremy Foley, who got burned the last time he hired an assistant (Ron Zook). But those who know Muschamp know that he’s been groomed for this since he was a player at Georgia for Ray Goff. Muschamp has worked at LSU (for Nick Saban), at Auburn (for Tommy Tuberville), and Texas (for Mack Brown). He is ready.

2. Florida will win the SEC East in 2011: How ready is Muschamp? Well, here’s the first prediction for the 2011 season: Florida will win the SEC East championship. The problem at Florida last season was not talent. It was a lack of focus and a lack of leadership. The team was not focused because too many leaders had left and there was never a coherent offensive strategy. Muschamp can fix the leadership issue and if he hires a top-flight offensive coordinator the other problem can be fixed as well. Media reports say Muschamp is looking at Major Applewhite, an offensive assistant at Texas. My choice would be Dana Holgerson of Oklahoma State (who is in the running for the head coaching  job at Pitt.)

3. I’m disappointed in the timing of Florida’s announcement: This is strictly an opinion, but I wish Florida had waited until after the Heisman Trophy presentation to announce its new coach. The official press release came just minutes before Auburn’s Cameron Newton was handed the hardware in New York. The announcement opens Florida up to charges that it was trying to step on the moment of a player from another SEC school. And with Newton’s background at Florida, which includes concerns that academic information about his time at the school was leaked to the media, it is something that simply should have been avoided. I was informed this morning by Florida officials that they had every intention of waiting until after the Heisman Trophy presentation but that once the news leaked out through the social media the school felt it had no choice but to release the information.

4. What does the hiring of Al Golden tell us about the Miami job? First of all, I think Golden is a great hire. Remember that it wasn’t long ago that Temple considered dropping football. The school basically got booted out of the Big East. Golden took over and he took the Owls to a bowl in 2009 and this season went 8-4 (which included a win over Fiesta Bowl bound UConn). But it also tells you that Miami’s job is not one where the school can go out and command the services of a Tier One proven head coach. Jon Gruden wasn’t coming. Neither was a successful head coach at the BCS level. Miami is a tough job because if you don’t win and win big, the people just don’t come. Again, I think Golden is a super coach. He has been named as a possible replacement for Joe Paterno at Penn State. He will win at Miami. I just think Mike Leach would have been a more inspired hire.

5. If he goes to Vandy, how will Gus Malzahn handle the BCS championship? It looks like Vanderbilt is Gus Malzhan’s job to turn down. So what does the Auburn offensive coordinator do if he accepts, which could happen as early as today (Monday)? I certainly believe he would coach Cameron Newton one last time in the BCS championship game with Oregon on Jan. 10. But I’ve seen other coordinators try to get ready for a BCS title game while attempting to build a staff and organize a program at another place. Mark Richt did it at Florida State after he took the Georgia job in 2000. Richt admits now that it was very difficult. The only person I have seen pull it off really well was Bo Pelini, who was the LSU defensive coordinator for the 2007 BCS championship game while organizing his new program at Nebraska.

Stay tuned.

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697 comments Add your comment

gdawginkalamazoo

December 13th, 2010
2:37 pm

Ah, Will Muschamp to Florida, Welcome aboard saboteur!

Meyer who?

MURPHY

December 13th, 2010
2:41 pm

ga gator,

No way I want Kerwin Bell anywhere near our UGA program! Ill stay with Bobo and take my chances.Dont want Bell’s ego anywhere near our program!

Tell the truth

December 13th, 2010
2:44 pm

Of course they are rolling the dice. That’s the best they could do??? AND Florida wwill not win the East next year you homer!!!!

Mongo

December 13th, 2010
2:47 pm

Tony no homer. Tony UGA man.

Tell the truth

December 13th, 2010
2:55 pm

There is no way I believe that either for 4 days or for one year Foley only talked with Muschamp about this job!!! He may be the only one offered- since he would never offer formally unless he knew the answer would be yes. But he never felt out other potentials for the job??? Can you say BS????

Mongo

December 13th, 2010
2:57 pm

“Tell the truth” is angry man. Tell Mongo why so angry?

Mongo

December 13th, 2010
3:02 pm

Mongo like Coach Muschamp. Coach Muschamp let Mongo on Auburn sideline when he was coach for Tigers. Mongo is alumnus of Auburn defensive line.

truthis

December 13th, 2010
3:23 pm

Gators got their man! Now if UGA wins next year,I guess he is a spy and will be shot.

Not So Fast

December 13th, 2010
3:24 pm

Hey Trisha:

Unfortunatly the comming santions will hurt recruiting. All these recruits have seen the hammering USCw got.

IT'S ALLLLL ABOUT THE MONEY!!!!

December 13th, 2010
3:33 pm

WHAT GOES ON ELSEWHERE DOESN’T MATTER,ONLY WHAT’S BEEN GOING ON @ AU IS ALL THAT MATTER’S TO THE NCAA,FBI & THE IRS @ THIS TIME……….DON’T YOU UNDERSTAND THAT??!! NAME CALLING OTHER SCHOOL’S WON’T JUSTIFY THE GOING’S ON @ OUR BELOVED SCHOOL!!! WHEN OUR COACH IS 13-0 AND DOES NOT WIN THE COACH OF THE YEAR IN THE SEC……….SOMETHING’S WRONG HERE!!!! I PRAY TO LORD EVERY NIGHT THAT LOWDER,DYE & OTHER’S HAVEN’T SCREWED US AU FAN’S AGAIN!!! WE HAVE AUSOME TEAM BUT IF WE HAVE OUR SEASON HIGHLIGHTED WITH A * I FOR ONE WILL BE SICK!!!!

Langley

December 13th, 2010
3:36 pm

Money,
With all due respect to Chizik, anyone on this board would be 13-0 as the coach of AU having Cam. Make no mistake, it was not Chiznik that coached this team to 13-0. It was Cam’s feet and sometimes his arm.

brokeback jacket

December 13th, 2010
3:38 pm

Are the tech nerds rolling the dice with butt ugly cheerleaders?

BG

December 13th, 2010
3:41 pm

Tony, Didn’t you pick UF to win the east in 09? I guess you will continue to pick UF until you are right.

From Where I Sit

December 13th, 2010
3:47 pm

Who cares that FL chose to announce their coach at the time the thief and liar got his award? He should not have gotten a 2nd chance anyway, just like Vick. Again, Auburn will find out how loyal this guy is when he leaves now to go to the NFL and that he only used them as a marketing platform to get there. I bet he does not give a DIME back the the university as well!

I clap my hands loud on what FL did as most probably did not care to watch this loser get his trophy.

Enough Said!

Bama Dude Is Clueless

December 13th, 2010
3:51 pm

If I were king of the NCAA, I would not only saturate Alabama with investigators, I would set up a branch office in Tuscaloosa. -Bianchi

SuperB

December 13th, 2010
3:55 pm

I’ll bet Florida will not win the SEC East next year. The surprise winner: Georgia. The reason: Better QB. if Georgia’s RB’s don’t fumble all over the place– the Dawgs would have won it this year.

Bama Dude the Weenie

December 13th, 2010
3:57 pm

In 2010, two Wall Street Journal reports suggested Alabama and Saban had engaged in dishonest and unethical behavior largely related to the controversial practice of oversigning. On September 24, the Journal reported that several Alabama players had been pressured into requesting medical scholarships (not counted against the athletic scholarship limit) despite being healthy enough to play and wanting to remain on the team.[31] A couple months later, on November 25, 2010, the Journal reported that several former Alabama players claim Saban and Alabama lied about their reasons for leaving the school.[32] Upon removing the players from the Alabama team in early August 2009, just days before the NCAA-mandated scholarship deadline, Saban told members of the press that the players had “violated some type of team rule or policy.”[33] The players told the Wall Street Journal they committed no such violations and that Alabama and Saban had only claimed as much so as to protect the image of their program in the eyes of future recruits. Saban was also questioned, in April 2008, about how he manages to be under the scholarship limit each year despite the appearance of oversigning, to which he agitatedly responded, “It’s none of your business. Aiight? And don’t give me this stuff about the fans’ need to know, because they don’t need to know. Don’t even ask. Aiight?”[34]

Bama Dude the Weenie

December 13th, 2010
4:01 pm

Former Players Say Saban Twisted the Truth
Alabama’s Football Coach Said Four Athletes Were Let Go for Breaking Team Rules—Three of Them Say That’s Not True. Digg

On Aug. 5, 2009, just before Alabama’s football team embarked on what would be a championship season, head coach Nick Saban delivered some unpleasant news at a preseason news conference. Four players hadn’t been invited back to the program because they had “violated some type of team rule.”
Head coach Nick Saban and his Alabama players in early October as the Crimson Tide faced the Florida Gators.
.”These guys all did something,” Mr. Saban continued, without elaborating. “It doesn’t make them bad people.…These guys didn’t do what they were supposed to do here, whether it was for academic reasons or whatever. They’re not going to be part of the program.”

In interviews with The Wall Street Journal, three of the players Mr. Saban mentioned that day—cornerback Alonzo Lawrence, running back Jermaine Preyear and linebacker Prince Hall—said Mr. Saban’s statement about their departures wasn’t accurate.

Mr. Lawrence said he decided to transfer from Alabama because he didn’t think he would get to play, not because he’d violated any rules, and was “shocked” by Mr. Saban’s comments. Mr. Hall, who had played in 36 games at Alabama, said while he had been suspended three times for violating team rules in the past, it was his decision to transfer—and Mr. Saban had tried to talk him out of it.

Mr. Preyear also said he chose to leave over concerns about playing time. “I don’t know any rules I could have broken,” he said. Reggie Barlow, Mr. Preyear’s current coach at Alabama State, confirmed Mr. Preyear’s account that he wasn’t dismissed by Alabama for rules violations but had asked to transfer.

Jermaine Preyear playing for Alabama State in the 2009 season.
.The three players said they believe Mr. Saban falsely portrayed the circumstances of their departures to protect the image of his program. Mr. Saban had previously come under scrutiny by the media for offering scholarships to more incoming recruits than the school could accommodate under NCAA scholarship limits. This relatively common practice, which is known as “oversigning” is not prohibited by the NCAA. It allows a coach to improve his roster by giving him a larger pool of talent to choose from. But it also eventually forces the coach to get rid of a few scholarship players he no longer wants—which can put him at risk of scaring away future recruits.

Bama Dude the Weenie

December 13th, 2010
4:07 pm

This Is Your “Honest” Head Coach….

Saban, who two weeks ago declared “I’m not going to be the Alabama coach,” accepted the Tide’s job offer job and abandoned his attempt to rebuild the Dolphins after only two seasons.”I guess I have to say it. I’m not going to be the Alabama coach. … I don’t control what people say. I don’t control what people put on dot-com or anything else. So I’m just telling you there’s no significance, in my opinion, about this, about me, about any interest that I have in anything other than being the coach here.”

Langley

December 13th, 2010
4:08 pm

Man who prefers weenies,
Oversigning – not prohibited by the NCAA.
Paying players – prohibited by the NCAA. Sorry you will be sanctioned.

Risk of scaring away recruits:
UA – Currently #2 in the Rivals rating.
AU – Currently #21 in the Rivals rating. Last year’s class bought and paid for.

Bama Dude the Weenie

December 13th, 2010
4:09 pm

Another Nick Saban player lands on the NCAA’s radar
Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on July 22, 2010, 2:42 PM EST
The situation involving Alabama football players possibly getting paid continues to get more interesting.

TMZ reports that the NCAA is looking into whether someone other than Alabama running back Mark Ingram, the 2009 Heisman Trophy winner, paid for him to attend a May 12 party in D.C.

Langley

December 13th, 2010
4:11 pm

Man who must have a weenie in his mouth,
No coach in the history of coaching jobs have ever said that “yes, I am going to take the coaching job at school x just as soon as I am finished with my current coaching job at school/team y.
Dude, you are 12 years old or dumber than a box of hammers. AU is going to get hit. Deal with it.

Mobile Dawg

December 13th, 2010
4:11 pm

ga gator, other than the pressure, theoretically, if you have a successful formula and you recruit good kids if you can win at D-2 you should be able to win at D-1. I don’t understand the need to have a big name coach. I see the guy at South Alabama, Joey Jones as an up and comer. Save yourself a lot of money, get yourself a good guy. I know of Kerwin Bell but don’t know anything about him individually. But that’s what they pay a good AD for. Good luck with Muschamp, he should do a good job.

Bama Dude the Weenie

December 13th, 2010
4:15 pm

Alabama defensive end Marcell Dareus has been suspended for two games following an investigation into not one but two spring trips that might have involved improper contact with agents.

He also must pay $1,787.17 of benefits to a charity of his choice, the NCAA student-athlete reinstatement staff has ruled in a decision announced tonight.

Alabama coach Nick Saban said on his radio show tonight that Alabama will appeal the decision in hopes of getting the suspension reduced to one game.

According to an NCAA news release, Alabama declared Dareus ineligible for violations of NCAA preferential treatment and agent benefits rules. According to Alabama, the benefits included airfare, lodging, meals and transportation during two trips to Miami. A second trip had not previously been disclosed.

The student-athlete reinstatement staff reduced a suspension from a potential four games to two because of mitigating circumstances in the case, the NCAA news release said.

Dareus will sit out Saturday’s season opener against San Jose State and, more importantly, a game the following week against Penn State

Bama Dude the Weenie

December 13th, 2010
4:20 pm

Saban said “I am not taking the job” over and over again. He was simply holding out for more money. He will get bored with Bama in a few years and be back in the NFL, leaving your program in ruins in the process! Go down with the ship Langley dear Boy you are toast if the NCAA does come calling to Alabama. You and I know AU would not be the only casualty if they come snooping around. Keep living in denial with your head in the sand! It’s only a matter of time before the NCAA pulls the trigger and gives you boys at Bama the Death Penalty……

Langley

December 13th, 2010
4:21 pm

Paying players. Get ready for 6 major violations.

3. Auburn

While the Tigers have kept their nose clean in recent years, Auburn has five major violations on its record. The most recent was a 1993 issue involving money given to students, including one report of a drop-off of $250 at a trailer park. The Tigers received a two-year postseason ban and one-year television ban as a result, making it the fourth time the school was taken out of postseason and television privileges.

Langley

December 13th, 2010
4:23 pm

Enter your comments here

ted brogan

December 13th, 2010
4:26 pm

Bama Dude the Weenie,

As Fletch told the chief of police GOD I ADMIRE YOU…

Seriously, now Bama’s getting the death penalty based on allegations and past penalties that are now cleared.
I guess the NCAA just ignores Bama now and let’s them get away with whatever they want. Not sure who you are a fan of, but probably a 6-6 team.
Also, I know Saban is the first coach to ever say he is not going to be a coach and then go somewhere, shame on him for setting a first and bad example.

Go sit on a weenie,

Langley

December 13th, 2010
4:28 pm

Forgot to enter comment. Head not is sand weenie boy, however if you take the you know what out of your arse then you should see that UA is not under investigation. Marcel Dareus sat out two games. Done. You are reaching for straws that are not there. Your program is straight dirty and you are going down for it. The FBI/NCAA don’t snoop around without something there. I will say it one more time. Slive kept the money in the SEC. After the bowl season, the Heisman trophy will go back to the Heisman trust.

Skitty Fritty

December 13th, 2010
4:29 pm

Carolina will be the favorite to win the East in 2011 not UF. They have their QB, RB and WR returning and they won the East in 2010. Why would they not be the favorites to win the East in 2011?

Noteam

December 13th, 2010
4:31 pm

will ever get the death penalty again,NO TEAM! Now they may get the living $hit slapped out of them,But not the death penalty.

DwayneL

December 13th, 2010
4:32 pm

Dawgs will be fourth next season behind Florida, South Carolina, and TN.

ATL Gator

December 13th, 2010
4:36 pm

for those of you that question the Muschamp hire based on the record of Texas, they were 7th in the nation in total defense…not bad considering how often they were on the field thanks to a terrible offense

Langley the Liar

December 13th, 2010
4:37 pm

The governing body said it considered giving the Crimson Tide the most severe punishment — the death penalty — under the repeat violator rules for a recruiting scandal in which boosters were accused of paying money for high school players.

“They were absolutely staring down the barrel of a gun,” said Thomas Yeager, chairman of the infractions committee.

‘Bama busted

Major findings cited by the NCAA Infractions Committee in imposing penalties on the Alabama football program:

A recruit, identified in news reports as Kenny Smith, and his parents were given $20,000 in cash, lodging and entertainment by two Crimson Tide boosters beginning in 1995. The first payment of $10,000 was made in $100 bills delivered in a grocery bag. Smith signed with Alabama but couldn’t meet academic requirements.

An Alabama booster previously identified as Logan Young of Memphis, Tenn., gave cash to a high school coach who was seeking $100,000 cash and two sport-utility vehicles in exchange for directing star recruit Albert Means to Alabama.

An assistant coach, former recruiting coordinator Ronnie Cottrell, received two loans totaling $56,600 from Young in violation of NCAA rules. The loan was not repaid until the case became known.

Two boosters involved in repeated rules violations were known to the Alabama staff, coaches and fans and often were seen at the team hotel during road games.

A recruit, identified previously as Travis Carroll, was given the use of a car in 1999 for agreeing to attend Alabama. The car was repossessed when Carroll transferred to Florida.

“These violations are some of the worst, most serious that have ever occurred,” he said.

Bob UGA 90

December 13th, 2010
4:37 pm

Tony – Why do you persisit to defend Cam? It seems like every article you have written lately defends him in some way. Why? A son who is that close to his father had to know what was going on, btw. Only the naive would believe otherwise.

Langley the Liar

December 13th, 2010
4:37 pm

The governing body said it considered giving the Crimson Tide the most severe punishment — the death penalty — under the repeat violator rules for a recruiting scandal in which boosters were accused of paying money for high school players.

“They were absolutely staring down the barrel of a gun,” said Thomas Yeager, chairman of the infractions committee

WAS THAT CLEAR ENOUGH FOR YOU!!

Langley

December 13th, 2010
4:39 pm

Weenie google boy,
How does that make me a liar? How soon your little mind forgets. UA paid for those violations as I mentioned earlier. AU’s are coming.

Langley the Liar

December 13th, 2010
4:40 pm

Seriously, now Bama’s getting the death penalty based on allegations and past penalties that are now cleared.
I guess the NCAA just ignores Bama now and let’s them get away with whatever they want. Not sure who you are a fan of, but probably a 6-6 team.

NOPE MY TEAM IS 13-0 ON OUR WAY TO GLENDALE WITH THE HEISMAN WINNER WINNER & COACH OF THE YEAR! HATER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Langley the Liar

December 13th, 2010
4:41 pm

An Alabama booster previously identified as Logan Young of Memphis, Tenn., gave cash to a high school coach who was seeking $100,000 cash and two sport-utility vehicles in exchange for directing star recruit Albert Means to Alabama.

An assistant coach, former recruiting coordinator Ronnie Cottrell, received two loans totaling $56,600 from Young in violation of NCAA rules. The loan was not repaid until the case became known.

Two boosters involved in repeated rules violations were known to the Alabama staff, coaches and fans and often were seen at the team hotel during road games.

A recruit, identified previously as Travis Carroll, was given the use of a car in 1999 for agreeing to attend Alabama. The car was repossessed when Carroll transferred to Florida.

“These violations are some of the worst, most serious that have ever occurred,” he said.

wxwax

December 13th, 2010
4:43 pm

“The problem at Florida last season was not talent. It was a lack of focus and a lack of leadership. ”

If I had a nickel for every time someone said the problem was the coaching and not the talent, I’d be driving a Ferrari.

Why is it that everyone always blames the coaches and not the talent? Same thing at UGA. It’s bewildering.

Voice Of Reason

December 13th, 2010
4:44 pm

I’ve got it on good authority that both Julio Jones and Mark Ingram were both paid to go to Alabama. They have also received improper benefits and weekly stipends. It won’t come out until Saban leaves town, but when it hits the fan it will be veeeeery ugly!

ted brogan

December 13th, 2010
4:45 pm

an auburn fan throwing around the death penalty, wow…

I’ll be shocked if the newton story is over, have a great time while you can…

Langley The Clown

December 13th, 2010
4:46 pm

“Paid for your mistakes”?? The most recent sanctions were just imposed last year!!! Did you forget about “textbook-gate”? YOU ARE ON PROBATION RIGHT NOW!!! “We paid for those violations” LMAO That’s a good one!!!!

Langley

December 13th, 2010
4:47 pm

Skin flute player (weenie boy), You are definitely tripping. 13-0 soon to be 0-14 (because I think Cam win’s the MNC and then the games get nulified). Coach of the year. Ha. Even you could coach AU to 13-0 with Cam. Face it. AU wanted to try and sniff UA’s jock in the realm of recruiting, National titles, SEC titles, bowl appearances and bowl victories. They paid players, and will get caught. Get over it. And yes, before you post, UA has done so in the past, got caught and paid the price. It is just your turn now.

Langley The Clown

December 13th, 2010
4:48 pm

Good luck in the cellar Ted…..tell me what mediocrity feels like

Langley

December 13th, 2010
4:50 pm

Weenie lover (Langely the clown) You should know what mediocrity feels like.

Langley The Clown

December 13th, 2010
4:50 pm

WE ARE SMART ENOUGH NOT TO GET CAUGHT AGAIN! Only a mullet gets caught with his hand in the same cookie jar twice!!!(Or 3 or 4 times for that matter I guess LoL

ted brogan

December 13th, 2010
4:53 pm

Langley The Clown,

You win, I hope I can find a new team to pull for now that Bama got the death penalty. I am going to email saban to tell all the recruits to find another school and get rid of the #2 recruiting class. Should I tell them to go to Auburn where the program is clean and they can learn how to become better young men.
Give me some cammie cam juice, cause I am All in Family, weagle weagle.

Langley

December 13th, 2010
4:54 pm

3 or 4 times yes. But AU has been caught 5 times with hand in said jar (not vaseline jar). The next one (coming soom) will you put AU in first place for major violations. Be proud.

Ed (The Original)

December 13th, 2010
4:58 pm

I’m sure UF had no choice but to release the announcement when it did. The timing was, ahem, “unfortunate.”

Stay classy, Gators.