Are the Gators rolling the dice with Muschamp?

Even when the regular season is over, it ain’t over. So what did we learn, and what do we still want to know?:

1. Are the Gators rolling the dice with Muschamp? Urban Meyer announced his “retirement” last Wednesday after six years as the head coach at Florida. In the next 48 hours everybody from Bob Stoops, to Jon Gruden (there is that name again), to Chris Peterson, to Dan Mullen to Chip Kelly was considered to be the  front runner for one of the top five jobs in college football. Then suddenly, at 8:28 p.m. on Saturday (note the time) Florida announces that it had hired Texas defensive coordinator Will Muschamp as its next head coach. The press conference will be Tuesday. Some consider it a risk by athletics director Jeremy Foley, who got burned the last time he hired an assistant (Ron Zook). But those who know Muschamp know that he’s been groomed for this since he was a player at Georgia for Ray Goff. Muschamp has worked at LSU (for Nick Saban), at Auburn (for Tommy Tuberville), and Texas (for Mack Brown). He is ready.

2. Florida will win the SEC East in 2011: How ready is Muschamp? Well, here’s the first prediction for the 2011 season: Florida will win the SEC East championship. The problem at Florida last season was not talent. It was a lack of focus and a lack of leadership. The team was not focused because too many leaders had left and there was never a coherent offensive strategy. Muschamp can fix the leadership issue and if he hires a top-flight offensive coordinator the other problem can be fixed as well. Media reports say Muschamp is looking at Major Applewhite, an offensive assistant at Texas. My choice would be Dana Holgerson of Oklahoma State (who is in the running for the head coaching  job at Pitt.)

3. I’m disappointed in the timing of Florida’s announcement: This is strictly an opinion, but I wish Florida had waited until after the Heisman Trophy presentation to announce its new coach. The official press release came just minutes before Auburn’s Cameron Newton was handed the hardware in New York. The announcement opens Florida up to charges that it was trying to step on the moment of a player from another SEC school. And with Newton’s background at Florida, which includes concerns that academic information about his time at the school was leaked to the media, it is something that simply should have been avoided. I was informed this morning by Florida officials that they had every intention of waiting until after the Heisman Trophy presentation but that once the news leaked out through the social media the school felt it had no choice but to release the information.

4. What does the hiring of Al Golden tell us about the Miami job? First of all, I think Golden is a great hire. Remember that it wasn’t long ago that Temple considered dropping football. The school basically got booted out of the Big East. Golden took over and he took the Owls to a bowl in 2009 and this season went 8-4 (which included a win over Fiesta Bowl bound UConn). But it also tells you that Miami’s job is not one where the school can go out and command the services of a Tier One proven head coach. Jon Gruden wasn’t coming. Neither was a successful head coach at the BCS level. Miami is a tough job because if you don’t win and win big, the people just don’t come. Again, I think Golden is a super coach. He has been named as a possible replacement for Joe Paterno at Penn State. He will win at Miami. I just think Mike Leach would have been a more inspired hire.

5. If he goes to Vandy, how will Gus Malzahn handle the BCS championship? It looks like Vanderbilt is Gus Malzhan’s job to turn down. So what does the Auburn offensive coordinator do if he accepts, which could happen as early as today (Monday)? I certainly believe he would coach Cameron Newton one last time in the BCS championship game with Oregon on Jan. 10. But I’ve seen other coordinators try to get ready for a BCS title game while attempting to build a staff and organize a program at another place. Mark Richt did it at Florida State after he took the Georgia job in 2000. Richt admits now that it was very difficult. The only person I have seen pull it off really well was Bo Pelini, who was the LSU defensive coordinator for the 2007 BCS championship game while organizing his new program at Nebraska.

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T3

December 13th, 2010
1:59 pm

Barnhart said:

“But it also tells you that Miami’s job is not one where the school can go out and command the services of a Tier One proven head coach.”

Mike Leach took made backwater Texas Tech into a National Title contender agiainst the likes of Texas and Oklahoma.

I think Donald Trump is a heeluva lot smarter than Barnhart.

Trump recommended Leach to Miami back in 2006, and recently did again, and Trump was prepared to back it up with LOTS OF MONEY.

Trump was in a position to deliver HUGE sums of Money to a Miami Athletics programs that is financially DESPARATE. Al Golden aint bringing any money with him. Leach would have.

As for Miami AD Kirby Hocutt and Miami President Donna Shalala publicly stating they would not hire ANYONE for the coaching job that brought “baggage” to the job.

This……from the Miami administrators that hired Randy Shannon ??

Shannon has more baggage than ocean-going cargo container.

Either they are SERIOULSY STUPID at Miami……or there is a CONCERTED POLITICIZED EFFORT to keep Leach off the field.

Well, as I said back in March 2010, Leach woul end up at either Miami or Maryland. Looks like it’s gonna be Maryland after Friedgen’s final year in 2011.

BAMA dude

December 13th, 2010
2:00 pm

KR, the point was that UF is a very elite job. Truth be told, they could probably land 80% of the FBS coaches out there. I was very surprised by that hire in this case when they are near top of the CFB world (this one season notwithstanding). Why not have a look at Bret Bielema? Bo Pelini? Jim Harbaugh? Those are just examples but Florida would be a step up for any of those guys who had their teams competing for BCS bowl games. Muschamp may very well be talented but Florida ain’t the kind of situation that people use to learn how to be a HC.

nothingmore

December 13th, 2010
2:00 pm

That is right,I bet we get nothing more on AU,Why?Because the NCAA wants this to go away and I’m betting that is just what will happen.What a freakin’ crazy/sewage football season.

Bama Dude Is A Weenie Head

December 13th, 2010
2:01 pm

What Dye and Wayne Hall did was wrong, but it’s peanuts compared to what they are doing over in Tuscaloosa. They almost got the death penalty recently for crying out loud! How do you explain 4 probations in 14 years Bama Dude?

Langley

December 13th, 2010
2:04 pm

UA paid their price just like AU will pay their’s. It’s coming.

ga gator

December 13th, 2010
2:04 pm

BAMA dude mostly agree, but I like the hire. Of the three you mentioned only Harbaugh would be successful in the SEC, but he probably either wants to be at Michigan or NFL so Foley probably did not even consider him.

BAMA dude

December 13th, 2010
2:08 pm

ga gator, not sure why you’d think that. I think Pelini and Bielema could compete anywhere. When Pelini got the Nebraska job, they had been in the tank for some time. Made sense for them to hire a bright young assistant and let him grow with his program. Same for Stoops at Oklahoma. Florida isn’t in that situation- this is a big time job with big time money and the most fertile recruiting ground in the country. They are one year removed from 13-1 and two years from a MNC. I can’t believe they reached for an assistant. It baffles me.

JaxGator

December 13th, 2010
2:08 pm

MURPHY:
I will certainly come back next year and let you know if I am still happy with Muschamp. I am like you; I am glad that we did not get Mullen. I have a lot of confidence in Foley and his judgment. Check and see how many times Florida has won the SEC allsports trophy since Foley has been AD. Many on here mention the Zook hire; Zook was not even in the top four choices, he was a panic hire like Kiffin at USC. Foley did not waste time getting rid of Zook; although Zook beat Richt 2 of 3. At least we are not stuck with a mediocre coach like Richt.

Mongo

December 13th, 2010
2:10 pm

Mongo think Auburn should pay players more. Then Auburn compete with Bama.

What? Mongo say something wrong?

BAMA dude

December 13th, 2010
2:10 pm

To clarify, I wasn’t talking about the fact that you like the hire when I said “don’t know why you think that.” I was talking about Bielema and Pelini.

Mongo

December 13th, 2010
2:11 pm

Mongo not like Mike Bianchi. Bianchi is bad man who make fun of Mongo and other football players. Mongo want to hit Mike Bianchi.

honesttogod

December 13th, 2010
2:12 pm

I think if you live in the State of Alabama you can damn near get away with anything.And bu!!$hit that it goes on everywhere,it does NOT!

Kenny Powers

December 13th, 2010
2:13 pm

Miami completely botched the the head coaching search. I mean come’on…its “THE U”

Miami fans should expect their ‘Caines to dominate the ACC consistently.

Langley

December 13th, 2010
2:14 pm

Telegram for Mongo, Telegram for Mongo……AU undermicroscope not UA. It’s coming.

King Gator

December 13th, 2010
2:15 pm

Foley’s been searching for Urban’s replacement since this time last year. He knew talking Meyer back into the job was only temporary and after the way things went this year he knew it would probably be sooner than later. This is why it took him less than a week to fill the head coaching position at Florida. Most of the leg work, background checking, etc. had already been done. I’m sure Foley knew Muschamp would be in unless Mack Brown retired this year. Good for our AD being prepared and making a good hire .. I know time will tell, but I like it on many fronts and will miss Coach Meyer too. I guess it beats having an AD who gets DUI with some young girl who’s not his wife without any panties on. Go Gators! Welcome Coach Muschamp to the Gator Nation and the fun that is the SEC!

ga gator

December 13th, 2010
2:15 pm

BAMA dude, I am not saying that it was not a surprise hire, I would have prefered the Boise coach, but that being said, 4 weeks ago a lot of Texas people were wanting Brown fired and Muschamp promoted. If he was good enough for Texas, he should be good enough for any job in the country including Bama or Florida. Not a safe hire, but a bold one that I believe is what the program needed.

Mobile Dawg

December 13th, 2010
2:16 pm

Anytime you hire an assistant you are “rolling the dice”. What I did like was that it was quick and decisive.

Sanford Drive

December 13th, 2010
2:16 pm

JaxGator,

CMR is not a mediocre coach. You will see next year in your hometown that the Gators being down is a win for the Dawgs. Muschamp will remember his heritage and know that he has a future in Athens if he plays his cards straight.

Mongo

December 13th, 2010
2:16 pm

Mongo no read (Mongo went to Auburn). Can you read to me?

KR

December 13th, 2010
2:16 pm

BAMA dude: I agree that the UF job is considered by most to be an “elite” position. But sooner or later you start running out of “elite” people to fill those jobs. Even if you do manage to land one, they don’t always work out as promised. Or, they put in a few years and start looking for the next “elite” stop on the line.

Foley’s hiring track record has been pretty good so far, so I think UF fans will need to trust his judgement. For the record, I wouldn’t have gone with Muschamp. We’ll find out soon enough who’s right and who’s wrong.

dawgfan

December 13th, 2010
2:18 pm

Dawgs beat G@ytors in Jax next year. Write it down. In stone.

Class dismissed.

Mongo

December 13th, 2010
2:19 pm

Mongo like Urban Meyers, but Mongo not go to Florida. Coach Meyers make players go to class. Class confuse Mongo, so Mongo go to Auburn.

Bama Dude Is A Weenie Head

December 13th, 2010
2:19 pm

Langley Bama’ not under the microscope? Even though they are currently on probation AS WE SPEAK!! UNTIL 2012??? They almost received the death penalty 8 years ago in the wake of the Means scandal! Yeah right they definitely clean over there LMAO

Mobile Dawg

December 13th, 2010
2:19 pm

King Gator, word on the inner circle was that the Muschamp hiring is payback from UGA for the Richt hiring 10 years ago. Your program will self destruct from within like ours has within five years….

The Most Obnoxious Man Alive

December 13th, 2010
2:20 pm

Sanford Drive

Trust me ALL Gators hope Richt stays at Georgia for years. Great coaches dont go 1-2 against Ron Zook.

Langley

December 13th, 2010
2:20 pm

Dear Mr. Mongo,
UA cleaned up their reading dept after sanctions. AU will have to clean up their’s as well as the Sociology dept during your sanctions.

We teach Mongo to read.

playshiscards?

December 13th, 2010
2:21 pm

So our new Coach will take a dive and let the bulldogs win? wtf are you saying man?

The Most Obnoxious Man Alive

December 13th, 2010
2:21 pm

dawgfan just like last year with the worst Gator team since 1989.

Mongo

December 13th, 2010
2:21 pm

Mongo like Mark Richt, too, but Mark Richt not win football games.

Bama Dude Is A Weenie Head

December 13th, 2010
2:21 pm

Logan Young, Key Figure in Alabama Scandal, Murdered
James Joyner | Tuesday, April 11, 2006

ESPN is reporting that “A man found dead Tuesday in a Memphis home is believed to be Logan Young, an Alabama booster convicted of bribing a high school football coach to get a top recruit for the Crimson Tide.”

Police are investigating the case as a homicide. They have not yet confirmed the body was Young, but the Memphis Commercial Appeal reported on its Web site Tuesday that that detectives were working at a house where Young’s body was found. “We’re treating it as a mystery homicide,” Sgt. Vince Higgins told The Associated Press. He said officials assume the victim was Young but needed to use fingerprints and dental records to confirm the identity. “Suffice it to say, there was quite a physical struggle in this and this individual was injured severely,” he said.

Nashville attorney Jim Neal, who defended Young, said he had been told the body was found by a housekeeper. “I’ve had two or three calls about it, all to the same end, found killed in his home. … I heard that there was blood everywhere. That is all I know,” Neal said. Higgins said Young’s housekeeper found the body after she arrived for work this morning. The body had not been removed from the house and no family members immediately arrived at the house.

The 65-year-old Young was convicted under federal law of money laundering and racketeering conspiracy in the case involving the peddling of defensive lineman Albert Means. Young was sentenced in June to six months in prison and six months of home confinement then two years of supervised release. But he had been allowed to remain free pending his appeal.

[...]

Means’ recruitment became part of an NCAA investigation that led to sanctions against Alabama in 2002, costing the Crimson Tide scholarships and bowl appearances.

Attorney Tommy Gallion, who represented Williams and former Alabama assistant Ronnie Cottrell in a defamation suit against the NCAA and others, called the news tragic. “I have no idea who could be behind this. I was shocked that Phillip Shanks was beaten and this was more shocking,” Gallion said in a statement read by his secretary. Shanks was assisting Gallion on the lawsuit in May 2004 when he was attacked in his office and left unconscious. Key case documents were stolen, he said. No one was ever charged in the case.

Defense attorney Robert Hutton said he last talked with Young last week and called his death a total shock and a real loss. “He was very generous man. He was generous with people around him. A pastor of a Catholic Church, he asked for money for some program, for the roof or something, and he gave him the money. Logan wasn’t even Catholic,” Hutton said. “He was a wonderful character. I really enjoyed him as a person. It’s just a horrible tragedy.”

The Most Obnoxious Man Alive

December 13th, 2010
2:22 pm

dawgfan why are you such a gay UGAY fan?

Mongo

December 13th, 2010
2:23 pm

Thank you, Mr. Langley. Maybe Mongo go to Bama for grad school? Mongo still have track and field eligibility. Mongo throw steel ball for Bama. Maybe Mongo get Bama MBA.

They have Textbooks At Alabama?

December 13th, 2010
2:24 pm

Langley

December 13th, 2010
2:20 pm
Dear Mr. Mongo,
UA cleaned up their reading dept after sanctions.

You mean they actually read books at Alabama? Could have fooled me…..

Langley

December 13th, 2010
2:24 pm

Mongo,
I shall speak so you understand.
Why weenie man speak about past? Weenie man need to think of future. Or does weenie man prefer weenie’s?

King Gator

December 13th, 2010
2:25 pm

If Muschamp doesn’t pan out, Foley will cut him and move on .. same as it is at Bama and AU..not so much for other schools and even at the coordinator level. I hope he’s good for the Gators, can’t be worse than Zook. I trust our AD – Go Gators!

Langley

December 13th, 2010
2:25 pm

Have you not seen the return value of the textbooks at UA?

dawgfan

December 13th, 2010
2:28 pm

hey obnoxious,

good name for yourself. GATA. G@ytors still suck.

Mobile Dawg

December 13th, 2010
2:28 pm

Muschamp’s success will depend on whom he surrounds himself with. Saban fired Major Applewhite after one year, wasn’t it?

ga gator

December 13th, 2010
2:28 pm

No one could be worse than Zook UGA fans……………………………………

Mongo

December 13th, 2010
2:28 pm

Mongo not like Weenie Man. Weenie Man make fun of Mongo’s blog friends like Mr. Langley. Mongo think about future. Mongo get BAMA MBA, learn to read. You help Mongo with Mongo’s GMATs?

Langley Likes Weenies

December 13th, 2010
2:28 pm

What are textbooks doing at Alabama anyway? Must need them to prop up a couple chairs I guess……LoL

BAMA dude

December 13th, 2010
2:29 pm

King Gator, that’s a fair assessment. Muschamp is certainly a hot name and up-and-comer. My point was just that a school with the talent Florida has, the money they can pay, and the recent success they’ve had would usually prefer to have a guy that got his feet wet elsewhere, that’s all. He could be very successful.

Most Obnoxious Man Alive

December 13th, 2010
2:29 pm

dawgfan it must really suck to be a UGAY fan who is owned by the gaytors.

Langley Likes Weenies

December 13th, 2010
2:30 pm

ESPN is reporting that “A man found dead Tuesday in a Memphis home is believed to be Logan Young, an Alabama booster convicted of bribing a high school football coach to get a top recruit for the Crimson Tide.”

Police are investigating the case as a homicide. They have not yet confirmed the body was Young, but the Memphis Commercial Appeal reported on its Web site Tuesday that that detectives were working at a house where Young’s body was found. “We’re treating it as a mystery homicide,” Sgt. Vince Higgins told The Associated Press. He said officials assume the victim was Young but needed to use fingerprints and dental records to confirm the identity. “Suffice it to say, there was quite a physical struggle in this and this individual was injured severely,” he said.

Nashville attorney Jim Neal, who defended Young, said he had been told the body was found by a housekeeper. “I’ve had two or three calls about it, all to the same end, found killed in his home. … I heard that there was blood everywhere. That is all I know,” Neal said.

ga gator

December 13th, 2010
2:32 pm

Mobile, I would rather him hire Kerwin Bell (currently a D-2) HC as the OC, but not sure Kerwin sees a D-1 OC better than a D-2 HC. Wouldn’t it be ironic if Richt is fired in a year or 2 and UGA hires Kerwin as HC.

Mongo

December 13th, 2010
2:32 pm

Mongo is Auburn man, but Mongo want to evolve. Mongo want to become Bama man.

Langley

December 13th, 2010
2:33 pm

You got it Mongo. Your reward will be to abuse weenie man in a medieval fashion. He might just like that however. Good luck Mongo. You made me laugh today.

Langley Likes Weenies

December 13th, 2010
2:33 pm

Does the “Official Story” seem plausible to you?

Homicide Lt. Joe Scott said police believe Young tripped while carrying a salad and soft drink up a set of stairs and hit his head on an iron railing. The fall onto the railing opened a large gash across the top of Young’s head and he dropped to the floor bleeding profusely, Scott said at a news conference. After lying on the floor for some time, Young got up and walked bleeding through several rooms of his spacious, two-story house before ending up in his second-floor bedroom, Scott added. His housekeeper found the body beside his bed Tuesday morning. “There was a lot of blood,” Scott said. Young, who was divorced and lived alone, apparently tried to slow the bleeding with towels from the kitchen downstairs and a bathroom upstairs, and two towels soaked with blood were found on the bed. He walked past several telephones but didn’t place an emergency call, Scott said.

Langley

December 13th, 2010
2:36 pm

Weenie man. Who cares what happened years ago? UA cheated, got caught and paid the price. AU is next. It’s that simple. Prepare yourself for the wrath of Mongo.

Mongo

December 13th, 2010
2:37 pm

Mongo like Mr. Langley, but Mongo not like Weenie Man. Mongo like Auburn cheerleaders, but Coach Dye not introduce Mongo to cheerleaders after Mongo graduate.