Even if you’re a Gator hater, there is no joy in Meyer’s departure

It’s a tough business. I get that. And over the course of six seasons a head football coach in the SEC can rub a lot of people the wrong way, especially the people he beats.

But if you’re a Bulldog or a Volunteer for a Gamecock or a member of the Crimson Tide Nation, you really shouldn’t be celebrating today over the news that Urban Meyer is leaving as the head coach at Florida.

I’ve had my own issues Meyer.

 He was flat wrong when he suspended linebacker Brandon Spikes for only one-half game after Spikes clearly tried to hurt Georgia’s Washaun Ealey (sticking his fingers in the facemask). Only after the public outcry did Spikes “suddenly” decide that his suspension should be for one game.

He was wrong when he dressed down a reporter in practice in front of cell phone cameras. If he had an issue with the reporter, then there is a right way–a professional way–to address the concern. He chose the wrong way. I don’t know if Meyer was trying to put on a show for his players but it was unprofessional behavior. You don’t use people as props because you want to win football games.

He was flat wrong when he allowed Chris Rainey to return to the team and I said so. There are certain lines in life that you do not cross and threats against women is one of those lines. The rationalizations about who Rainey was and his background, etc., may have all been true. But all that pales in comparison to a text message that said “Time to die, ——-.”

The more success Meyer and the Florida program had, the more withdrawn and insular it became. They became like rock stars who once basked in the attention that brought them fame and fortune but ultimately found it suffocating and just tried to block it all out.

But instead of managing the media  and managing the very high expectations,  which successful people do every day, Meyer chose to throw up walls and pull in the ranks and adopt this silly “us agains the world” mentality. Coaches do that because it’s easy and the players will easily buy into it. It’s much easier for a coach to tell a player “they are all out to get us” instead of “dealing with the media–good and bad–is part of growing up. If you want to play at the next level you need to learn how to deal with these people and be smart about it. We will teach you how to do that.” But that takes work and, in some coaches’ narrow view of the world, it has nothing to do with winning and losing and so it should simply be eliminated as a factor. It is short sighted but if you win enough games, being short sighted eventually becomes a virtue.

Having said all that, Meyer is/was a helluva coach and the record certainly proves that. He won two national championships in three seasons (2006, 2008) and was certainly good enough in 2009 to win a third but for Alabama. For five years at Florida his star burned as brightly as any I’ve ever seen. But on Wednesday he announced, in so many words, that he was burned out.

I know you love your school but most of you I hear from also love your conference and college football as a whole. And so there is no reason to celebrate when the sport burns out a talented coach. You would rather he stay so that when you finally beat him it is all the more sweet.

Florida will find another talented coach. Frankly, I’m going to be surprised if its not Dan Mullen. Whoever it is will be very successful. Steve Spurrier forever changed Florida’s football program in his 12 years (1990-2001) at the school. Before Spurrier arrived Florida had never won 10 games in a season and had never won an SEC championship. Spurrier raised the bar and so Florida will never go back for more than a year or two.

And for Urban Meyer? I predict that he will be out of coaching for only one year and will surface again. This year he got caught in the perfect storm of talent losses and coaching losses and the inability to summon up the fire in the belly that had burned white hot for five seasons. We were all guilty of thinking that Florida could just reload after four years of Tim Tebow. The Florida program took a dip as all programs do (see Texas). The Gators will be back sooner rather than later but Urban Meyer will no longer be their coach.

If you love the game, there is no reason to celebrate that.

 And one last thing: If Urban Meyer goes to the Denver Broncos in the next two months, I take it all back.

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621 comments Add your comment

todd grantham

December 9th, 2010
9:17 am

BOBO 2 FLORIDA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Bama "Dude" Is Clueless

December 9th, 2010
9:18 am

As a matter of fact Mullet head, we are the most successful SEC West team since re-alignment

While Auburn football has a long and storied history, the Tigers have been quite successful in recent years. Since the expansion of the SEC and the split into divisions, Auburn has been the winningest SEC West team in league play since the conference realignment in 1992.[21] As of the end of the 2009 season, Auburn teams have won 33 of their last 50 conference matchups including 16 of the last 24 SEC away games. The Tigers seem to perform best when facing their greatest challenge as, in addition to the success on the road in the SEC, Auburn teams have won 9 of their last 16 matchups versus top-10 opponents. The Tigers also have done well protecting Jordan-Hare Stadium, particularly at night where the home team has won 18 of the 22 night games since 2000. Over the five seasons prior to 2009, Auburn won 47 games

Urban Meyer

December 9th, 2010
9:18 am

Lil Aubarn Troll,

Here’s all I got for ya: ********************************************************

Addazio

December 9th, 2010
9:19 am

Voice your support for me as the new Head Coach at UF

http://www.HireSteveAddazio.com

National Championship, here we come!

Joey

December 9th, 2010
9:20 am

Good luck Saturday, ClinchPanther, from an Indian fan on the other side of the Swamp.

War Eagle!!!

December 9th, 2010
9:20 am

War Eagle, fly through da hood
Ain’t got no classes, grades still be good
War Eagle, pays more than State
Sign up and don’t be late
Go! Go! Go!
Probation, comin’ again
Hit ‘em late, Hit ‘em late,
Clam up and spin, Hey!
War Eagle, cheat for Auburn,
Stepchild of Dixie Land!

Must Watch: Tebow's Dirty Little Secret

December 9th, 2010
9:20 am

Must Watch: Tebow's Dirty Little Secret

December 9th, 2010
9:22 am

TrishaDishaWarEagle

December 9th, 2010
9:22 am

My cammie cam juice* is drying up.

Cammie! Where are you?

G@tor Insider

December 9th, 2010
9:23 am

Two points about Urban. Last years Sudden “Retirement” was more about getting caught with pants down with a certain 22 year old Tri Delta Delta co-ed then it was being physically burned out.
He was allowed to keep his job only due to the fact there were worries their top recruiting class would fall apart at the seams. After this incident he was “skating on thin ice”, and could not afford any further incidents. Well, the next incident and nail in the coffin was leaking private and federally protected confidential academic records involving a certain soon to be Heisman Trophy winner.
His relationship with New York Times writer Pete Thaymel has been proven by be true and verified by phone records by George Lawson and the rest of his legal team. Even at the risk of losing top rated recruiting classes pale in comparison to dragging UF thru the penalties with breaking Federal Law. Good Riddance. Next time keep it in your pants, and keep that rat trap of a mouth shut.
We will be better off in the long run, as we find a coach who isn’t so married to the spread.

Forrest Gump

December 9th, 2010
9:23 am

Meyer took the departure of Tebow a little too hard, spending the night in his hospital room and all that special attention and emotional attachment. If Meyer winked at Spikes and Rainey, I am sure that he would have double winked at Newton, who left UF on his own accord. The bottom line is, Meyer is seriously lacking in character, not unlike Petrino and Saban, each of whom will fly to another job at the drop of a bag of money. Meyer will be back at the college level, maybe at Michigan. His sanctimonious air will not fly in the NFL, and there he would just be another college bust like Petrino, Saban, and Spurrier.

3rdN8

December 9th, 2010
9:25 am

gotta think people are having a hard time getting Jimbo Fisher to quit laughing.

Talk about a perfect storm (in a good way). Fisher is now the senior HC among the big three in Florida. The recruiting game has just been reset to square-one.

I’ll bet that Foley gets no sleep until he officially presents the replacement for Meyer.

TrishaDishaWarEagle

December 9th, 2010
9:25 am

I’m really worried about what Meyer will say about my Cammie now that he doesn’t have to coach in the SEC next year.

:-(

Shane

December 9th, 2010
9:26 am

Meyer did a good job at UF on the field. Off the field there were some issues as we all know. The man just needs a break. He’ll resurface in a couple of years.

Joey

December 9th, 2010
9:26 am

“Whether the topic was another team or coach, or his own team, he just let it fly.”
**************************
3rdN8,

How about the “I guess ‘FSU’ stands for Free Shoes University” comment Spurrier made back in the day?

ATLNative

December 9th, 2010
9:26 am

I now hate even more that the Dawgs could not beat FL this season!

"Staring Down The Barrel Of A Gun"

December 9th, 2010
9:27 am

NCAA rolls Crimson Tide for violations

By John Zenor, The Associated Press

Alabama in state of shock over NCAA penalties

TUSCALOOSA, Ala. — The NCAA placed Alabama on five years’ probation Friday, jolting the program Bear Bryant built into a power with a two-year bowl ban and heavy scholarship reductions.

The governing body said it considered giving the Crimson Tide the most severe punishment — the death penalty — under the repeat violator rules for a recruiting scandal in which boosters were accused of paying money for high school players.

“They were absolutely staring down the barrel of a gun,” said Thomas Yeager, chairman of the infractions committee.

‘Bama busted

Major findings cited by the NCAA Infractions Committee in imposing penalties on the Alabama football program:

A recruit, identified in news reports as Kenny Smith, and his parents were given $20,000 in cash, lodging and entertainment by two Crimson Tide boosters beginning in 1995. The first payment of $10,000 was made in $100 bills delivered in a grocery bag. Smith signed with Alabama but couldn’t meet academic requirements.

An Alabama booster previously identified as Logan Young of Memphis, Tenn., gave cash to a high school coach who was seeking $100,000 cash and two sport-utility vehicles in exchange for directing star recruit Albert Means to Alabama.

An assistant coach, former recruiting coordinator Ronnie Cottrell, received two loans totaling $56,600 from Young in violation of NCAA rules. The loan was not repaid until the case became known.

Two boosters involved in repeated rules violations were known to the Alabama staff, coaches and fans and often were seen at the team hotel during road games.

A recruit, identified previously as Travis Carroll, was given the use of a car in 1999 for agreeing to attend Alabama. The car was repossessed when Carroll transferred to Florida.

“These violations are some of the worst, most serious that have ever occurred,” he said.

The university, accused of 11 major violations — one was later withdrawn — and five minor charges under two former coaches, said it would appeal

The Tide contested the two most publicized charges involving claims of boosters making five-figure payments to lure two recruits.

But it admitted some violations and imposed penalties on itself, including a reduction of 15 scholarships over three years and the temporary disassociation of three boosters at the heart of the recruiting scandal.

The university-imposed sanctions did not include a postseason ban.

The NCAA reduced the number of football scholarships the school can award by 21 over three years. It also said the university would face tougher penalties if it did not permanently disassociate the boosters.

The sanctions could cost the university millions. Last year, Alabama received about $1.5 million from its share of the Southeastern Conference’s bowl proceeds and its take from the Independence Bowl.

The violations occurred under former coaches Mike DuBose and Gene Stallings.

None of the accusations involve current coach Dennis Franchione or his staff. Franchione was out of town recruiting on the final weekend before national signing day.

“Although the penalties handed down today are much stiffer than we anticipated, the mystery is cleared up and we know what we are up against,” he said. “The coaches, the players and I must roll up our sleeves and work that much harder to sustain and restore Crimson Tide football.”

DuBose released a statement through a Birmingham law firm.

“I am deeply distressed and surprised by the severity of the sanctions handed down today by the NCAA,” he said. “I am especially disappointed for the players, current coaching staff and all of the fans of our university.”

If Alabama is found guilty of further violations during the probationary period, Yeager suggested the death penalty — the elimination of a sports program — could result.

“God forbid, there’s ever another appearance — ever,” Yeager said. “Should there be one — particularly within the five-year period — I don’t know what’s left.”

The university contended that accusations of a $20,000 payment to prospect Kenny Smith in the mid-1990s fell outside the governing body’s statute of limitations.

Alabama officials also argued the NCAA couldn’t prove that high school coaches for Memphis prospect Albert Means received money to steer the defensive lineman to Alabama, or that any money was linked to Tide booster Logan Young.

But the NCAA said a booster agreed to give Means’ coach $115,000 to get Means to sign with Alabama and said three payments of $10,000 were made.

Means signed with the Tide, but has since transferred to Memphis. Young, a Memphis businessman, was one of the boosters dissociated from the university. He has denied any wrongdoing in the recruiting of Means.

Alabama’s football program was placed on three years’ probation in 1995. All-America defensive back Antonio Langham admitted signing with a sports agent the morning after the Tide gained the national title with a Sugar Bowl win over Miami but returned to play his senior season.

BAMA dude

December 9th, 2010
9:27 am

Well, I reported all of the troll’s comments. Hopefully they’ll find some of his garbage offensive enough to ban him.

JDW

December 9th, 2010
9:27 am

Well if you don’t have anything good to say…..O how about goodbye and good riddance. There I said something good about Urban Crier.

"Staring Down The Barrel Of A Gun"

December 9th, 2010
9:28 am

WE ARE THE CHEATERS?? HMMM…..

The governing body said it considered giving the Crimson Tide the most severe punishment — the death penalty — under the repeat violator rules for a recruiting scandal in which boosters were accused of paying money for high school players.

“They were absolutely staring down the barrel of a gun,” said Thomas Yeager, chairman of the infractions committee

G@tor Insider

December 9th, 2010
9:28 am

Trisha,

Although most Gator fans wont admit it, you are right and you have reason to be worried.
There were other instances he personally helped covered up involving Cam. One of these would do considerably more damage to UF than Cam if that information was released.

3rdN8

December 9th, 2010
9:28 am

@ Joey

Spurrier did throw out some zingers. I’m sure the guy has chapped more fan bases than anyone in history.

schmeckdawg

December 9th, 2010
9:28 am

Michael Scharff

December 9th, 2010
8:28 am
He may be a great X’s and O’s guy, but he has NO class. I don’t even know the man personally, but allowing that punk Rainey to return to the team sealed the deal for me in terms of my opinion of Meyer.

AGREED 1000%!!!!!!!!!!!

I Dunno?

December 9th, 2010
9:28 am

BAMA dude,

Is red-headed step-child syndrome a bannable offnese? ;-)

KC

December 9th, 2010
9:29 am

For anyone who criticizes Urban Meyer…Don’t we all want to spend more time with family? Be a millionaire? Be the very best in your company for not one but two years? There is never a good time to retire, resign, quit, change your mind or whatever other word(s) you want to substitute here when it comes to coaching or in any job that I know of.
All the Best to him and anyone who is able to make the choice to spend more time with family, be wealthy and have been the very best at what he did.

Reader of Morons and quite a few idiots

December 9th, 2010
9:29 am

Joey my favorite Spurrier was when he beat UGA between the hedges while at Florida and answered the question about running up the score with his “never seen a half a hundred put up in Sanford Stadium”. All time instant classic.

BAMA dude

December 9th, 2010
9:30 am

I Dunno?

December 9th, 2010
9:28 am
BAMA dude,

Is red-headed step-child syndrome a bannable offnese?

No, but personal attacks such as “mullet head” and posting too much of someone else’s content can be. Copyrights , intellectual property, and all that.

Bama Dude Can't Handle The Truth

December 9th, 2010
9:30 am

So the truth is “offensive” now? I know the TRUTH HURTS…..

Bama Dude Can't Handle The Truth

December 9th, 2010
9:31 am

Waaaaahhhhh!!! Mommy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

GStateBen

December 9th, 2010
9:31 am

So what about all those recruits and their parents that he lied to saying I’ll be here for the next 4 years to take care of your son. Guys like Matt Elam, who enrolled early. Their vaunted recruited classes that haven’t amounted to much because of an extreme lack of discipline and consistency in dealing with star players.

He’s a joke and should be treated as such.

Take a look at his coaching tree and it is impressive. When he loses coaches, he doesn’t replace them with competent ones and that is what got them killed in 2010. Steve Addazio was an OL coach, he should not have been calling the plays and Florida fans were right for calling him to be moved.

Urban’s offensive genius was not his own: He had Mike Sanford at Utah and Dan Mullen at Florida. What happend when those guys went away? Urban doesn’t call the plays, he never has. He doesn’t even develop the Offensive Game Plan!

This is why a competent HC in Jimbo Fisher destroyed him at Doak.

He’s a great recruiter and great evaluator of coaching talent. If those makes you a great coach, so be it.

He’s a fraud and would have been beaten into oblivion in 2011 by better head coaches (Spurrier, Fisher, Saban, Miles). I have a feeling no one is begging him to stick around Florida after this season in a “consultant” role.

I Dunno?

December 9th, 2010
9:32 am

The Truth* hurts nobody — if Slive and the NCAA manage to sweep it under the rug.

Stay In Denial Bama Dude....

December 9th, 2010
9:33 am

Got cash?? Just look in the grocery bag….

A recruit, identified in news reports as Kenny Smith, and his parents were given $20,000 in cash, lodging and entertainment by two Crimson Tide boosters beginning in 1995. The first payment of $10,000 was made in $100 bills delivered in a grocery bag. Smith signed with Alabama but couldn’t meet academic requirements.

An Alabama booster previously identified as Logan Young of Memphis, Tenn., gave cash to a high school coach who was seeking $100,000 cash and two sport-utility vehicles in exchange for directing star recruit Albert Means to Alabama.

An assistant coach, former recruiting coordinator Ronnie Cottrell, received two loans totaling $56,600 from Young in violation of NCAA rules. The loan was not repaid until the case became known.

Two boosters involved in repeated rules violations were known to the Alabama staff, coaches and fans and often were seen at the team hotel during road games.

Don Domingo

December 9th, 2010
9:33 am

Meyer is way to sensitive.

He’s a helluva coach, but his life resembles As the World Turns…..

COugar

December 9th, 2010
9:34 am

I got a scenrio…. Dan Mullen going to Florida to coach… Miss St job is open …Auburn offense Cordinator Gus Malzahn to Miss St because Cam Newton Saying Bye Bye to Auburn and Head to The NFL and Auburn next year will be 7-5 cause no Cam Newton and No Nick Fairly threre taking there talents to The NFL for money!!!!

404

December 9th, 2010
9:34 am

And yet, Barnhart has reamined virtually SILENT
on ALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL the player arrest issues at UGAG.

No credibility.

Stay In Denial Bama Dude....

December 9th, 2010
9:35 am

I Dunno?

December 9th, 2010
9:28 am
BAMA dude,

Is red-headed step-child syndrome a bannable offnese?

“Offnese”? No, but being illiterate and cheering for Bama go hand in hand……

Trisha

December 9th, 2010
9:36 am

All of those violations from the previous Century have already been punished. Let’s talk about the current NCAA investigation. If you want to discuss the past, then Auburn STILL beats Bama hands down in NCAA violations and probation.

Florida’s two time NC winning head coach resigns, and all you can do is worry about him snitching on the Barn?

5IML

December 9th, 2010
9:37 am

This retirement is not about family. It’s about losing. Meyer doesn’t want to take more of the beatings associated with rebuilding.

Shane

December 9th, 2010
9:37 am

The Elementary Schools must have already let out for Christmas break.

Paul N Destin

December 9th, 2010
9:38 am

Meyer 2 NC’s …what you got over at UGA or Auburn…nutin honey
STFU until you do something other than talk a good game.

Stay In Denial Bama Dude....

December 9th, 2010
9:38 am

Sorry I didn’t realize “mullet” offended your delicate sensibilities…..would you prefer “Gomer” instead?? LoL

Top Recruit

December 9th, 2010
9:38 am

Meyer’s departure should be no surprise if you had closely watched him and his coaching this year. But somewhere you reporters have to ask this question. Is the NCAA going to take a look at Florida due to its links to Cam Newton? There could be other players? Sometimes a coach likes to leave and distance himself from it.

hind tit

December 9th, 2010
9:38 am

We may never know why Meyer decided to leave at this time. Maybe it was his decision maybe not. It could be the that Florida sees a trend forming in the way he handles unruly players. It seem that he has a hard time pulling the trigger on discipline which if continued would spell big trouble down the road. Has become to much of a tug huger.

Don Domingo

December 9th, 2010
9:39 am

@ COugar

You think Malzan would go to Miss St– even after Miss St tried to sabotage Auburn’s season?

Oh Well...

December 9th, 2010
9:40 am

Top Recruit,

Maybe Gene Chizik can go to Florida. He knows absolutely NOTHING about Cam Newton.

BAMA dude

December 9th, 2010
9:40 am

Shane

December 9th, 2010
9:37 am
The Elementary Schools must have already let out for Christmas break.

Nah, it’s probably the same handle changing knucklehead that used to troll around here. His MO is to fill the board with as much of his nonsense as possible as fast as possible. Hasn’t been around for awhile- I had hoped he was banned.

MS. Bully

December 9th, 2010
9:40 am

Dan Mullen is a Mississippi State Bulldog and he will remain one. In case you missed it, State was 8-4 and easily could have been 10-2. Auburn escaped Starkville with a 3 point win. State went to Florida and beat the Gators and now state is playing Michigan in the GATOR Bowl. The only remedy is more COWBELL!!

Eric

December 9th, 2010
9:40 am

TB,

I have to agree. The guy is a classless, arrogant jerk that ran a “win at any cost” program, but I do not wish him any ill will in his personal life. I truly hope he gets whatever help he needs to right his mind, health and soul.

Stay In Denial Bama Dude....

December 9th, 2010
9:41 am

Shane the Alabama Crimson Tide chain gang must have an early release program…..

ack

December 9th, 2010
9:41 am

After seeing pics of Meyer’s daughter, I would also like to retire in order to spend more time with his family.