Even if you’re a Gator hater, there is no joy in Meyer’s departure

It’s a tough business. I get that. And over the course of six seasons a head football coach in the SEC can rub a lot of people the wrong way, especially the people he beats.

But if you’re a Bulldog or a Volunteer for a Gamecock or a member of the Crimson Tide Nation, you really shouldn’t be celebrating today over the news that Urban Meyer is leaving as the head coach at Florida.

I’ve had my own issues Meyer.

 He was flat wrong when he suspended linebacker Brandon Spikes for only one-half game after Spikes clearly tried to hurt Georgia’s Washaun Ealey (sticking his fingers in the facemask). Only after the public outcry did Spikes “suddenly” decide that his suspension should be for one game.

He was wrong when he dressed down a reporter in practice in front of cell phone cameras. If he had an issue with the reporter, then there is a right way–a professional way–to address the concern. He chose the wrong way. I don’t know if Meyer was trying to put on a show for his players but it was unprofessional behavior. You don’t use people as props because you want to win football games.

He was flat wrong when he allowed Chris Rainey to return to the team and I said so. There are certain lines in life that you do not cross and threats against women is one of those lines. The rationalizations about who Rainey was and his background, etc., may have all been true. But all that pales in comparison to a text message that said “Time to die, ——-.”

The more success Meyer and the Florida program had, the more withdrawn and insular it became. They became like rock stars who once basked in the attention that brought them fame and fortune but ultimately found it suffocating and just tried to block it all out.

But instead of managing the media  and managing the very high expectations,  which successful people do every day, Meyer chose to throw up walls and pull in the ranks and adopt this silly “us agains the world” mentality. Coaches do that because it’s easy and the players will easily buy into it. It’s much easier for a coach to tell a player “they are all out to get us” instead of “dealing with the media–good and bad–is part of growing up. If you want to play at the next level you need to learn how to deal with these people and be smart about it. We will teach you how to do that.” But that takes work and, in some coaches’ narrow view of the world, it has nothing to do with winning and losing and so it should simply be eliminated as a factor. It is short sighted but if you win enough games, being short sighted eventually becomes a virtue.

Having said all that, Meyer is/was a helluva coach and the record certainly proves that. He won two national championships in three seasons (2006, 2008) and was certainly good enough in 2009 to win a third but for Alabama. For five years at Florida his star burned as brightly as any I’ve ever seen. But on Wednesday he announced, in so many words, that he was burned out.

I know you love your school but most of you I hear from also love your conference and college football as a whole. And so there is no reason to celebrate when the sport burns out a talented coach. You would rather he stay so that when you finally beat him it is all the more sweet.

Florida will find another talented coach. Frankly, I’m going to be surprised if its not Dan Mullen. Whoever it is will be very successful. Steve Spurrier forever changed Florida’s football program in his 12 years (1990-2001) at the school. Before Spurrier arrived Florida had never won 10 games in a season and had never won an SEC championship. Spurrier raised the bar and so Florida will never go back for more than a year or two.

And for Urban Meyer? I predict that he will be out of coaching for only one year and will surface again. This year he got caught in the perfect storm of talent losses and coaching losses and the inability to summon up the fire in the belly that had burned white hot for five seasons. We were all guilty of thinking that Florida could just reload after four years of Tim Tebow. The Florida program took a dip as all programs do (see Texas). The Gators will be back sooner rather than later but Urban Meyer will no longer be their coach.

If you love the game, there is no reason to celebrate that.

 And one last thing: If Urban Meyer goes to the Denver Broncos in the next two months, I take it all back.

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Georgia Peach

December 9th, 2010
3:08 pm

Auburn’s Undefeated Seasons

1957* NCAA Probation
1993* Turn the Radio On (cause you can’t watch these Tigers on TV – NCAA Probation)
2004* JUCO transfers in response to Jetgate – Sociologygate – SACS Probation
2010* Camgate

Some things just never change…

For You Ga. Peach

December 9th, 2010
3:12 pm

Actually this is our 7th undefeated season, but who’s counting? I understand you get jealous cuz you know thUGA only has undefeated seasons every half-century…..or thereabouts.

1913 undefeated 8–0 team Billingsley, James Howell, 1st-N-Goal
1914 undefeated 8–0–1 team James Howell
1957 undefeated 10–0 team Associated Press, Billingsley, Fleming, Football Research, Helms, James Howell, Massey Ratings, National Championship Foundation, Nutshell Sports, Poling, Sagarin, Sorensen, Williamson, David Wilson
1958 undefeated 9–0–1 team Montgomery Full Season Championship
1983 11–1 team ARGH, Billingsley, DKC, Eck, FACT, Fleming, Football Research, James Howell, Massey Ratings, New York Times, Nutshell Sports, Sorensen, Sparks Achievement, David Wilson, 1st-N-Goal
1993 undefeated 11–0 team Harry Frye, National Championship Foundation, Nutshell Sports, Sparks Achievement, David Wilson
2004 undefeated 13–0 team

Georgia Peach

December 9th, 2010
3:13 pm

They say that “Cheaters Never Win”… Nonsense!

At Auburn, the only way to win is to cheat.

Georgia Peach

December 9th, 2010
3:15 pm

Only seasons in which you win every game qualify as “undefeated seasons”.

If you want to count the seasons from the early 1900’s, then you’re also going to have to admit that The University of Alabama has 19 National Championships, aren’t you?

For You Ga. Peach

December 9th, 2010
3:17 pm

You heard the saying if you can’t beat ‘em join ‘em? Your new motto should be if you can’t beat ‘em, smear ‘em….LoL 49-31 ON THE FIELD! WAR EAGLE!!!

For You Ga. Peach

December 9th, 2010
3:19 pm

Only seasons in which you win every game qualify as “undefeated seasons

A tie= a loss now?

Georgia Peach

December 9th, 2010
3:19 pm

I’m willing to admit that Auburn has the best football team in the state of Georgia this year.

5IML

December 9th, 2010
3:19 pm

Bama “Dude” Is A Gomer,

It’s quite convenient that you copy-and-paste certain articles pertaining to the Albert Means case. Try this one on for size. I have others, if you’re interested..

Kirk also says Lang required a payment up front before even agreeing to send his star player on recruiting trips — with representatives of Kentucky having paid $6,000, and Alabama and Georgia $4,000 each.

Kirk says Georgia booster Bill Harper was hit up to cover the cost of a van and other expenses for a planned unofficial visit that Means and Lang never took to the Athens, Ga., campus. “[Harper] asked for his money back, [but] Coach Lang wouldn’t budge on that one,” Kirk says.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/inside_game/mike_fish/news/2002/11/29/fish_means/

For You Ga. Peach

December 9th, 2010
3:20 pm

The College Football Research Center lists Auburn as the 14th best college football program in history,[3] with eight Auburn squads listed in Billingsley’s Top 200 Teams of All Time (1869–2006).[4] ESPN ranked Auburn 21st overall[5] and 22nd in the BCS era,[6] behind several other SEC schools, including Florida, Georgia, LSU, Tennessee, and arch-rival Alabama.

The Associated Press poll statistics show Auburn with the 11th best national record of being ranked in the final AP Poll[7] and 12th overall (ranked 470 times out of 970 polls since the poll began in 1936), with an average ranking of 11.26.[8] Since the Coaches Poll first released a final poll in 1950, Auburn has 25 seasons where the team finished in the top 20 in both the AP and Coaches Polls.[9]

Auburn has the 13th most wins in D-1A college football.[10] In terms of winning percentage, Auburn ranks as the 9th most successful team in the past 25 years with a 71.6% win rate (214–83–5)[11] and 12th over the last 50 years with 63.0% (386–176–10).[12] Of the 93 current I-A football programs that been active since Auburn first fielded a team 116 years ago, Auburn ranks 13th in winning percentage over that period.[13]

Heisman links
Two Auburn players, Pat Sullivan in 1971 and Bo Jackson in 1985, have won the Heisman Trophy. The Trophy’s namesake, John Heisman, coached at Auburn from 1895 until 1899. Auburn is the only school where Heisman coached (among others, Georgia Tech and Clemson) that has produced a Heisman Trophy winner

For You Ga. Peach

December 9th, 2010
3:22 pm

RUNNING BACK U BABY!!!!!

There have been 245 Auburn players drafted into the National Football League, with 15 earning 30 All-Pro honors, 27 making Pro Bowl appearances, and 23 playing in the Super Bowl.

The Dow Jones College-Football Success Index ranked Auburn as the eighth best program in the nation, with the second highest Draft Value which indicate “that a school’s players perform better than NFL scouts seem to expect”.[31] Auburn is tied (with Miami) for second most Top 5 NFL Draft picks this decade, and The Plains have produced 25 first round draft picks overall.

Running back U

Cadillac Williams evades a tackler.Auburn has several former running backs currently playing that position in the NFL (see below). They carry on a long legacy of top NFL backs from Auburn such as Tucker Frederickson, William Andrews, Joe Cribbs, James Brooks, Rudi Johnson, Stephen Davis, James Bostic, Brandon Jacobs, Lionel James, Brent Fullwood, Carnell Williams, Ronnie Brown, Heath Evans, Kenny Irons, Ben Tate, Tommie Agee and Bo Jackson. Over the years 1987-2008, there have been 15 Tiger running backs drafted into the NFL, with several more successfully signing as undrafted free-agents.

BAMA dude

December 9th, 2010
3:22 pm

5IML, just leave him alone. I keep reporting his nonsense so he should be gone soon enough.

Georgia Peach

December 9th, 2010
3:23 pm

Q: How do you know when Auburn is cheating?
A: They aren’t losing.

5IML

December 9th, 2010
3:23 pm

More from the Albert Means case:

In prior testimony in U.S. District Court, Lang said coaches at two other Southeastern Conference schools, Kentucky and Georgia, gave him money. He also testified that Tennessee, Mississippi, Michigan State and Arkansas offered money for Means but never paid.

Under cross examination by defense lawyer James Neal on Wednesday, Lang added Memphis to the list of schools that offered him a deal, testifying that then-coach Rip Scherer said he would arrange for Lang’s wife to attend law school for free at the university.

Lang also told jurors that former Arkansas assistant coach Fitz Hill offered him either an assistant coaching job worth more than $80,000 a year or $150,000 in cash if he delivered Means and another player. Hill later became the head coach at San Jose State before resigning this past season.

https://www.accessnorthga.com/detail.php?n=152729&c=3

TrishaDishaWarEagle

December 9th, 2010
3:24 pm

WAR DAMN EAGLE!! I know one coach who isn’t leaving…Gene Chizik!!

How About this One 5MIL

December 9th, 2010
3:24 pm

You still think it was a suicide??

Logan Young, Key Figure in Alabama Scandal, Murdered
James Joyner | Tuesday, April 11, 2006

ESPN is reporting that “A man found dead Tuesday in a Memphis home is believed to be Logan Young, an Alabama booster convicted of bribing a high school football coach to get a top recruit for the Crimson Tide.”

Police are investigating the case as a homicide. They have not yet confirmed the body was Young, but the Memphis Commercial Appeal reported on its Web site Tuesday that that detectives were working at a house where Young’s body was found. “We’re treating it as a mystery homicide,” Sgt. Vince Higgins told The Associated Press. He said officials assume the victim was Young but needed to use fingerprints and dental records to confirm the identity. “Suffice it to say, there was quite a physical struggle in this and this individual was injured severely,” he said.

Nashville attorney Jim Neal, who defended Young, said he had been told the body was found by a housekeeper. “I’ve had two or three calls about it, all to the same end, found killed in his home. … I heard that there was blood everywhere. That is all I know,” Neal said. Higgins said Young’s housekeeper found the body after she arrived for work this morning. The body had not been removed from the house and no family members immediately arrived at the house.

The 65-year-old Young was convicted under federal law of money laundering and racketeering conspiracy in the case involving the peddling of defensive lineman Albert Means. Young was sentenced in June to six months in prison and six months of home confinement then two years of supervised release. But he had been allowed to remain free pending his appeal.

[...]

Means’ recruitment became part of an NCAA investigation that led to sanctions against Alabama in 2002, costing the Crimson Tide scholarships and bowl appearances.

Attorney Tommy Gallion, who represented Williams and former Alabama assistant Ronnie Cottrell in a defamation suit against the NCAA and others, called the news tragic. “I have no idea who could be behind this. I was shocked that Phillip Shanks was beaten and this was more shocking,” Gallion said in a statement read by his secretary. Shanks was assisting Gallion on the lawsuit in May 2004 when he was attacked in his office and left unconscious. Key case documents were stolen, he said. No one was ever charged in the case.

Defense attorney Robert Hutton said he last talked with Young last week and called his death a total shock and a real loss. “He was very generous man. He was generous with people around him. A pastor of a Catholic Church, he asked for money for some program, for the roof or something, and he gave him the money. Logan wasn’t even Catholic,” Hutton said. “He was a wonderful character. I really enjoyed him as a person. It’s just a horrible tragedy.”

I don’t know much about Logan Young but certainly have no good feelings toward him in his role in embroiling my alma mater in a major scandal, setting the football program back several years.

It should go without saying that physical violence, let alone murder, is well beyond the pale for anything surrounding young men playing a game. Sadly, Young’s obsessession with college football made him notorious. Apparently, it led someone even more obsessed to kill him.

BAMA dude

December 9th, 2010
3:24 pm

In fact, spending so much time extolling the virtues of his favorite team enhances the notion of an inferiority complex. He’s working to prove all my points without even realizing it. The Barn is desperate for others’ approval. So sad.

5IML

December 9th, 2010
3:25 pm

BAMA dude,

I can’t stop:

Lang testified that former Kentucky recruiting coordinator Claude Bassett gave $7,000 for work at a camp and a Means visit to campus and that former Georgia head coach Jim Donnan gave $700 cash for work at a camp. He testified that Bill Harper, a Georgia booster from Memphis, gave him a $100 bill.

TrishaDishaWarEagle

December 9th, 2010
3:26 pm

How do you know when UGA is losing? They are in Jacksonville..( or this year, colorado too)

how2fish

December 9th, 2010
3:26 pm

Hey I know a retired railroad worker that is about to come clean about Urban’s part in the JFK assassination seems he was on the tracks near the grassy knoll and swears Urban was the trigger man..Urban was like 5 at the time but already a skilled Ninja…Cecil Newton was driving the get away car by the way.

BAMA dude

December 9th, 2010
3:26 pm

TrishaDishaWarEagle

December 9th, 2010
3:24 pm
WAR DAMN EAGLE!! I know one coach who isn’t leaving…Gene Chizik!!

I sure hope not. I’d like him to stay at the Barn as long as possible.

For U GA Peach

December 9th, 2010
3:27 pm

How do you know when UGA has a bad season?
They won’t quit whining about the other guys success!!
LMAO

how2fish

December 9th, 2010
3:28 pm

TrishaDishaWarEagle keep talking you get to come to Athens this year without Cam or Fairly and darling girl we are looking forward to it.

Bama Dude Is A Gomer

December 9th, 2010
3:30 pm

BAMA dude

December 9th, 2010
3:24 pm
In fact, spending so much time extolling the virtues of his favorite team enhances the notion of an inferiority complex. He’s working to prove all my points without even realizing it. The Barn is desperate for others’ approval. So sad.

Once a Gomer, always a Gomer!! GOOOOOOLLLLLY!!!!

TrishaDishaWarEagle

December 9th, 2010
3:31 pm

@howtofish.. I am looking forward to it also..with Nick (lombardi award winner) Fairley in the NFL next year, you won’t get to complain that your QB was dropped (repeatedly) like a dirty sock, for the next 365 days after AU rolls out of town with a big W and some hedge sprigs.

TrishaDishaWarEagle

December 9th, 2010
3:35 pm

I still like the AU- UGA rivaly even if some disgruntled UGA fans don’t, and most UGA fans are ok ..maybe we can knock UGA out of that NC game next year, because I am sure they think they are going next year..either way, Athens is a nice place to have a drink after the game..I just wouldn’t want to live there.

Yosemite Sam

December 9th, 2010
3:40 pm

Attention, everyone, especially dawgtards. We will now observe a moment of silence in memory of Saint Jan Kemp, who exposed the shameful practices at UGA that were initiated and carried out by slimeball Vince Dooley. Dooley’s image as a coach and a nice guy were forever shattered during the trial, not to mention the one million dollars that dawgtards had to pay Saint Jan. These practices of recruiting morons and coddling them for four years, them tossing them out like garbage, are still going on, but at least the world knows what’s happening in Athens now.

And now, the moment of silence…
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Thank you, you may resume your normal activities now.

And God bless Urban Meyer, a fine person compared to the sleazebag Mark Richt.

how2fish

December 9th, 2010
3:40 pm

TrishaDishaWarEagle darling girl I for one wish Fairly would come back next year..he truly deserves what the SEC would more than happy to give him..your 1-4 in the last 5 vs UGA I’m loving our chances next year….just do us one favor..beat the Ducks..I mean really who in the country wants the NC’s to be a team called the Ducks..

Junior Samples

December 9th, 2010
3:41 pm

have not seen Saint Simons ’round these parts lately. i hope he’s not feelin’ poorly…hehehe

how2fish

December 9th, 2010
3:42 pm

Yosemite Sam..that was the funniest thing I’ve read all week..now get back to get your butt kicked by a wabbit..

Buzz

December 9th, 2010
3:42 pm

Wow Tony, an unbiased article. You really let your Red and Black hang out on this one….

Urban Crier

December 9th, 2010
3:45 pm

Trishadishawareagle, you guys beat us once in the last 5 years, and had to cheat to do it. Auburn is the school Georgia and Alabama kids that can’t get into UGA or Bama attend.

Series IS BASICALLY Even

December 9th, 2010
3:53 pm

Auburn leads 54–52–8

Bama Dude Is A Gomer

December 9th, 2010
3:58 pm

Little early christmas present for ya….

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HXmZCd_059I

SEC Fact Checker

December 9th, 2010
4:03 pm

The 10 most Demanding Collegiate Head Coaching Jobs are in the SEC. We can exclude Vanderbilt and Kentucky( and Kentucky is beginning to take that leap to the pressure cooker job) as they have other priorities such academics and basketball.

We can say the pressure at Nebraska, Oklahoma, Notre Dame, Ohio St, Michigan, Florida St, and a select few others are right up there with the prime SEC schools who spend more money on football and make more money from college football than many conferences as a whole earn from the sport. Money Puts the pressure on the Head Coaches to produce and to win each year.

People in other parts of the country to do not get the fact that College Football rules the sports sections in the south. We live, breath, get married, get divorces, set funerals, delay church services, schedule business trips, schedule vacations, and every major decision around our football schedule. Many many coaches have moved to the south to take the controls of one of our great historic football programs only to be gobbled up in the job. Did Urban Meyer see the writing on the wall as his do everything quarterback(Tebow) and a host of current NFL to be players left Florida to graduation or early exits?

If a coach is not willing to live, breathe, eat college football 365/24/7 he is not going to last in the South. Whether it is pee wee, middle school, high school, Junior College, Div. I, II, III or NAIA it matters to the people who are invested in those kids, programs, and schools.

Urban Meyer should be applauded for knowing he could not give the UF fans what they deserved and for knowing when the time was right for his resignation. Most UF fans will say after this past season he should have kept his resignation last December in place, but remember all those 5 star recruits he signed in February? Thanks to Urban Meyer some of the most talented players on that roster will be there for 3 and 4 more years.

The real question being asked now by UGA fans is: Does Mark Richt have that fire in his belly to rebuild the UGA program to the level needed to satisfy the 30 year absence from a National Title?
And that is not a retooling job, it is a rebuilding job.

monkey says

December 9th, 2010
4:11 pm

Academics is not Auburn’s strong suit:

Here is an article from the NY TIMES by Pete Thamal who in multiple interviews has stated the program at Auburn is very very corrupt at best.

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/07/14/sports/ncaafootball/14auburn.html?_r=2&oref=slogin

monkey does

December 9th, 2010
4:18 pm

The Auburn football team’s performance in the N.C.A.A.’s new rankings of student athletes’ academic progress surprised many educators on and off campus. The team had the highest ranking of any Division I-A public university among college football’s six major conferences. Over all among Division I-A football programs, Auburn trailed only Stanford, Navy and Boston College, and finished just ahead of Duke

Alabama | MrSEC.com

December 9th, 2010
4:19 pm

[...] to take advantage of Florida’s transition period.11.  The AJC’s Tony Barnhart says there is no joy in Meyer’s departure.12.  Kentucky AD Mitch Barnhart wants Wildcat fans to buy tickets for children, veterans and senior [...]

monkey says

December 9th, 2010
4:21 pm

Another one that illustrates the lack of core educational priorites at Auburn University.

The funny thing is someone called Auburn Running Back U. Yes they have produced many many great running backs over the past 30 plus years. The problem is beside producing great football players university is to provide a quality education to those same athletes who run onto the football field. How many players listed on the list provided by the blogger actually graduated from Auburn?
How many of those players are now productive citizens? After their NFL careers how many went on to give something back to the communities in which they were pampered and babied through the system?

Here you go.

James Downtown a respected Black Author who understands the role of the university.

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0DXK/is_23_16/ai_59019429/

TrishaStanks

December 9th, 2010
4:21 pm

So Professor Gundlach looked at the player’s academic files, which led him to the discovery that many Auburn athletes were receiving high grades from the same professor for sociology and criminology courses that required no attendance and little work.

Eighteen members of the 2004 Auburn football team, which went undefeated and finished No. 2 in the nation, took a combined 97 hours of the courses during their careers. The offerings, known as directed-reading courses, resemble independent study and include core subjects like statistics, theory and methods, which normally require class instruction.

The professor for those players and many other athletes was Thomas Petee, the sociology department’s highest-ranking member. The star running back Carnell (Cadillac) Williams, now playing in the National Football League, said the only two classes he took during the spring semester of his senior year were one-on-one courses with Professor Petee.

At one point, Professor Petee was carrying the workload of more than three and a half professors, an academic schedule that his colleagues said no one could legitimately handle.

Ain’t got no classes, grades still be good!

Sharrif Floyd

December 9th, 2010
4:22 pm

So Coach… remember the dream….you and me and the national championship…wake up coach !

TrishaDisha

December 9th, 2010
4:25 pm

Crotch smell like fisha!

WDEbaby

December 9th, 2010
4:25 pm

Quarterback Cam Newton said Thursday he “did no wrong” in choosing to attend Auburn. He said he decided to play for the Tigers because “Auburn possessed what’s best for Cam Newton.”

See,He is clean! He said so..So there you have it

monkey says

December 9th, 2010
4:27 pm

Oh yeah…Auburn is doing so great in academics..here is the NCAA report…30 to 40% in football

That is not too good….but then again Auburn has a history of providing diplomas to athletes who never attended classes or did any work. See article above. That is all the proof you need..but here goes your numbers…

http://web1.ncaa.org/app_data/apr2009/37_2009_apr.pdf

No Longer Skeptical

December 9th, 2010
4:27 pm

I was convinced from the moment that Cam said that he and his Dad could “look each other in the eye”.

Wrong again Idiot Tony

December 9th, 2010
4:28 pm

1984 Florida Great Wall Team was awesome. Florida football was on the way up when Spurrier stepped in. Had it not been Spurrier, somebody else would have filled the bill.

monkey says

December 9th, 2010
4:30 pm

What does the scripture say? THE TRUTH SHALL SET YOU FREE.

Does Cecil and Cameron Newton just bypass that one for their own benefit?

monkey says

December 9th, 2010
4:32 pm

You got to love these Helmet Heads who change their handle to include anothers handle in a name when they know they are losing every argument…that is what happens when the truth is not on their side….

WDEbaby

December 9th, 2010
4:45 pm

Nobody can touch us on nothing..Just a bunch of junk you haters have for my Auburn team.We are going to be Nationel Champions and yes we will enjoy it.

No Longer Skeptical

December 9th, 2010
4:46 pm

monkey says

December 9th, 2010
4:51 pm

No Longer…

Nice….thanks for the link.LMAO