What happens if Auburn loses to Alabama but wins SEC title?

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More ruminations about the Situational Ethics Conference. It pays to cheat and if you ain’t cheating, you ain’t trying

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Yes, Auburn will loose to BAMA. After that, being a “God Fearing” BAMA fan, I really don’t care what happens to them. ROLLT IDE!!!!

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Joshua Nesbitt for Heisman !!!!!!!! How is that working out!!!

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The Auburn Hillbillies
Come and listen to a story about a kid named Cam,
A liar and a thief, but Auburn didn’t give a damn
Then one day he got paid to play the game
And out of nowhere the investigators came
NCAA that is, judge and jury, Committee on Infractions

Well the first thing you know Auburn decides to go “all in”
Cheating didn’t matter just as long as we can win
Glendale, Arizona is the place we want to be
So we threw out the rulebook and called ourselves “family”
The Auburn family that is, yes we cam, “lean on me”

Well now it’s time to say goodbye to Cam and all our wins
He’ll play in the NFL with that same s.h.i.t. eatin’ grin
How in the world could we have been such fools,
Now we have to pick up the pieces of what’s left of our school

Sanctions that is, reduced scholarships, bowl bans

We’ll be back now y’hear?

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(((( 49 – 31 ))))

HAHAHAHAHAHA

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If that happens, they’ll probably go to the Sugar Bowl. The only problem that I see with this scenario is that if they lose to Bama, they’ll be that much more likely to also lose to SC.

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But is it the same answer if Auburn BEATS Alabama but then loses to SC in the SEC Championship game??? Would that change your prediction?

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The computer polls won’t penalize Auburn as harshly as the humans will when Alabama beats them Friday but who knows what’s what until Sunday.

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LSU losses this week so the thought of them playing in the BCS game is a mute point. Unless the clowns that run the BCS want a lawsuit then they better not even think about a one loss team jumping Boise St or TCU. I’m sure the people in Big 10 bamby pamby land are saying the same thing this week about a possible Wisconsin or Ohio St being the one loss team to play in the BCS.

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[...] The key is how far Auburn falls in the BCS Standings if it loses to Alabama. My belief is that if the game is competitive and Auburn loses close, then the Tigers will drop to no worse that No. 4 (ahead of No. 5 LSU). In that sense Auburn really needs for LSU to beat Arkansas (in Little Rock) and stay at No. 5 because the poll voters probably won’t drop them below a team they beat head-to-head (24-17). Auburn is very strong in the computers (No. 1 in five of the six computers). TCU does not play on Dec. 4 while Boise is playing Utah State (4-7). So if Auburn wins the SEC championship, I think they can jump from No. 4 to No. 2 in the final BCS poll on Dec. 5. (Tony Barnhart, AJC) [...]

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In response to “Bring”:

Think about the football team THUGA puts on the field. 96% of the players are academically provisionally accepted, with Adams and his cronies knowing full well that they will use up all their coaching and tutors and elligibility and then have their asses kicked out on the street and soon be pushing grocery carts around Atlanta looking for a warm place to sleep. What a pitiful way to run the State’s flagship university. I am going to this next week’s game where the Ga THUGS will undoubtedly whip my North Avenue Scholar Athletes once again. Brawn and brainless win out over brains any day of the week when you are talking mayhem on the field. But once again I am hoping that Tech stomps their sorry asses.

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“Then I’ve got the LSU people calling me and saying: “Why not us at 11-1?.” We’ll cross that bridge if we come to it.”
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No, you media guys better BLOW that bridge up if you come to it.

In ‘07, Les Miles led the charge by saying in an ESPN interview, “I don’t see how Georgia can get in the BCSCG when they didn’t even play for their own conference title game.”

I’m sure the media will remind him of those words if he starts lobbying for his team to get in the Big Game.

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Tony, you are the only person in America who keeps waiting on “solid evidence” that Newton (and Auburn) broke the rules. Auburn is a national disgrace and its behaviour is shameful. Name one other school (even in the SEC) that would brazenly play an ineligible player.

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If I was a criminal defense lawyer, I would love to have Tony on the jury because you seldom prosecute anyone when you have a “smoking gun.” Those defendants plead guuily and ask for mercy. Fortunately for the rest of society, most people have enough sense to look at the evidence and convict guilty folks to get them off the street. All I can say about Tony’s views about what is and is not “evidence” is WOW! In his eyes everyone is innocent even when Daddy admits he “did some things wrong.” I’m assuming Tony is one of those folks who thinks Daddy is not closely enough involved with the Son of the Preacher Man to be considered his agent. Amazing.

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Gen Neyland is exactly right in his comment @ 7:24 am.

Right now, Auburn is riding a wave—-a wave that consists of “the benefit of the doubt,” simply because no other FBS major program appears to be as strong as the Tigers. Take away the Tigers’ undefeated record, however, and the “benefit of the doubt” evaporates. Other concerns like Cam Newton’s eligibility and his father’s shenanigans now become the critical factors in the human pollsters’ analysis.

Frankly, if Auburn didn’t already have these lurking problems, the Tigers would probably already be number 1 in the BCS rankings and polls, not number 2. If the Crimson Tide adds a loss to the Tigers’ record, look for the Tigers to sink to 5th or 6th in the BCS standings and polls. As long as Oregon, Boise State and TCU remain undefeated (and Wisconsin remains a one-loss team), a one-loss Auburn will not get an invitation to the BCS Championship.

I don’t pretend to know the truth about Auburn’s Cam Newton problems, but I do know that Auburn and its alumni have a history of engaging in pay-for-play. If the Tigers lose either of their next two games (Alabama, South Carolina), the human pollsters will subtly penalize them, and they will not get the benefit of the doubt in the BCS selection process.

Book it.

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Doesn’t matter. Auburn’s season will vanish soon enough.

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Why not ask if South Carolina loses to Clemson, yet upsets Auburn in the SECCG, will Big East fans be screaming that an unranked 4-loss team shouldn’t even BE in a BCS bowl? Oh wait, you asked about a 12-1 Auburn getting in. I guess a silver-toned ring is better than no ring at all. Ask LSU, they have two.

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OkefenokeeDawg—-

Never wish for injury to any player, no matter how “deserving.” Karma, my friend, has a well-known sense of irony in these matters.

On the other hand, I think it would be perfectly acceptable for you to wish that one of the Tide’s lineman punch the SOB in the mouth. That would be the more direct approach.

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LSU – SOL. Remember “you didnt even win your division, much less your conference”. Sounds quite familiar hey.

AU’s magic ends anyway in T Town. And dont gimme the 6-1 stuff. Most of your 6 wins were against some bad Alabama teams of Dubose and Shula.

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[...] The key is how far Auburn falls in the BCS Standings if it loses to Alabama. My belief is that if the game is competitive and Auburn loses close, then the Tigers will drop to no worse that No. 4 (ahead of No. 5 LSU). In that sense Auburn really needs for LSU to beat Arkansas (in Little Rock) and stay at No. 5 because the poll voters probably won’t drop them below a team they beat head-to-head (24-17). Auburn is very strong in the computers (No. 1 in five of the six computers). TCU does not play on Dec. 4 while Boise is playing Utah State (4-7). So if Auburn wins the SEC championship, I think they can jump from No. 4 to No. 2 in the final BCS poll on Dec. 5. (Tony Barnhart, AJC) [...]

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No way we lose. Cam’s dad has told me & Cam that he has already paid I mean spoke to the officials who will be doing the game on friday & said everything has been arranged in order for the War Eagles to have a great day including allowing me to HIT LATE & PILE DRIVE THEIR QB

GO WAR EAGLE

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Uh they play in the sugar bowl. Duh

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What happens if they lose to UA? The family will view their season as a failure because beating Alabama is what these people revolve their lives around. Regardless, if AU does win out and win the BCS NC, that along with the Heisman will be stripped not too long after.

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A loss will drop Auburn in the “human polls” but will not drop them much in the computer polls. There are a few reasons for this. The computers shouldn’t take into account when in the season a loss occurred – unlike in the human polls were a late loss is more important than an early loss. There are also different sets of computer polls – the ones that the inventors use and the ones that the BCS uses. Compare Auburn’s rank in the version of the Sagarin index used by the BCS and the original. The BCS computer polls don’t take into account margin of victory – a 1 point Auburn loss to ALA would be the same in these polls as a 20 point beat down.
What fraud this whole thing is.

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/sagarin/fbt10.htm

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Question number 3-
Will $cam run to the stands and mug for the camera while his fellow players shake hands with the opposition?
damn skippy he will…

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Auburn Hillbillies= Funny Stuff.

OkefenokeeDawg…..DAMN RIGHT! But Les will never be asked that question by a Chicken S_ _ _ media is my guess, and if they(media) by chance grow some balls, he will suddenly have memory loss on that one.

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…a school more paranoid/suffering from inferiority complex/insecure than what is represented by Auburn fans. ….and, no, before the response starts raging against UGA, I went to UCLA. It’s really quite entertaining.

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If Auburn loses to Alabama, BSU or TCU should get the chance to play. They have only been undefeated the past couple of years during the regular season and have beaten a few Big Conference opponents. Give one of them the chance and if they get blown out, then the debate can end!

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The opposite will happen. Auburn beats Alabama then loses to Carolina.

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i love the sec and think it is by far the strongest year after year, but even i can’t swallow lsu in the championship game. conference champions only. we howled over michigan back in 2006 and we should be consistent now…

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I think another thing that could hurt a 1 loss SEC team whether it is Auburn or LSU is the SEC doesn’t really have any great OOC wins to hang their hat on… and Georgia didn’t do the conference any favors by losing to Colorado. The truth is… how good is the SEC this year? That is the danger of scheduling really weak out of conference games… hurt Auburn in 2004 and may hurt a 1 loss Auburn in 2010.

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( ( ( 80 – 63 ) ) ) hahahaha

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I think Aubie wins their last 3 by at least 17.

Meanwhile Paul Johnson has created quite an abortion on the Flats. No offense AND no defense with no help on the way.

GATA

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Unless Cam Newton gets hurt or is declared inelgible, I don’t see Auburn losing in the SEC game to South Carolina. So even if Alabama beats Auburn on Friday, there is no way LSU has a shot to make it to the title game.

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BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO-RRRRRRIIIIINNNNNGGGGGGG

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YOU GUYS HAVE GOT TO BE KIDDING ME, HAVE ANY OF YOU WATCHED COLLEGE FOOTBALL THIS YEAR, I MEAN REALLY, WHO HAS BAMA REALLY BEAT, AND THE TEAMS WE BEAT BAMA GOT THEIR A$$ KICKED. IF YOU THINK BAMA IS GONNA BEAT AUBURN THIS YEAR, BOY YOU GOT A RUDE AWAKENING. OUR TEAM IS WAY BETTER THAN LAST YEAR AND AUBURN EMBARASSED BAMA LAST YEAR. AUBURN 38-BAMA-27

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LSU can’t play for the National Championship since they didn’t even win their conference, right, just ask Kurt Huerbstreet and everybody at ESPN, or would their opinion’s be different now?

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Sorry Tony, I meant Barnhart. I still like ya, just get your head out of the sand.

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Every knows it takes months, sometimes years, for the NCAA to perform an investigation. The NCAA still uses typewriters and corded phones!

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Who cares? Auburn is going to lose to Alabama anyhow and the best team in the Country will get to play for the Championship. No team in College is as complete as BSU on both sides of the ball and it is time they are allowed to prove it once and for all. Shut the dumb bias SEC fans up once and for all.

How can an SEC fan actually claim they are the best team around when the best team they have to offer has one of the worst defenses in College Football. Enough of the schedule and conference crap as well. All a team can do is play what they have on the schedule and win. BSU has done that now for two years and the games have not even been close which means the Broncos are doing what they need to do on the field.

It is time that all of us so called Southern folks swallow or pride and get over the fact of acting like the SEC is some kind of god in college football and once and for all the BCS needs to do the right thing and put the two teams that deserve to be playing for the title in the title game. It is what it is folks and BSU can do no more then what they have done and that is prove on the field that they are an elite team. Anyone that knows football and watches it if you have watched them play you can see on both sides of the ball they are a complete team and can beat anyone that steps on the field of play with them. Enough is enough time to do the right thing and stop the nonsense of not allowing a non qualifier in the title game if they deserve it they deserve it and in this case BSU does deserve to play for it all ( that is unless they lose one of the last two games).

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y0!!!

Da BeEz BeE bAk bAbI!!!! WeZ bEe TaKiN dA wOrLd OvA!!!!!

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Majo, We have jobs and it was your Mother we were on in our RVs

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Auburn would deserve it over Boise or TCU… but I hope like hell they don’t get it.

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Not a Tech or UGA Fan…..Is that “losses” anything like “loses”, and is a “mute point” anything like a “moot point”? OMG…too funny.

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I believe if Alabama beats Auburn the War Eagles will drop to 6th. How many times have we’ve seen a team lose a game and only drop 2 spots? It’s very rare. The pollsters mind set is what have you done for me lately instead of looking at the whole season. That’s why teams such as Wisconsin, Stanford and possibly LSU very well could move ahead of Auburn.

For those Dawg fans who can’t fathom the thought of LSU getting in to the national title game without winning their division; just relax. Auburn, Oregon, Boise State and TCU would all have to lose for the Tigers to get in to the game. Even if 3 of the 4 lose the voters would move a one-loss Big 10 champ in front of LSU. Thus LSU’s chances are about nil.

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How many SEC West Division teams does it take to make a national champion?

One (1).

Auburn

Alabama

LSU

Arkansas

Mississippi State

Ol Miss

Get real. The National Champion will be from the SEC West.

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********** L S U ***************** TIGERS .

Lots of great football to be played this week.

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I hope Auburn loses and so does Oregon. Then we’ll have TCU vs. Boise State in the National Title game. After that ratings fiasco, there just might be a small playoff in College Football.

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Enough is enough, Tony. I’m fed up with the way the media tries to figure out SOME way for an SEC team to play for the NC. Heck, if they lose, they got no beef. IT’S TIME FOR A PLAYOFF. I’m tired of hearing…”Is a one loss SEC team better than everyone else?”. The real answer is, nobody knows. Until you have a playoff, you’ll never have a true champion. I recognize the SEC is the toughest conference, but enough is enough.

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Mike V

Should that happen, a BST and TCU would be (in my opinion) the only scenario. If it didn’t turn out that way, wouldn’t you think the BCS is rigged?

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGnXszHYXko

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DawgLuver

HELLOOOOOOOO….that was almost 2 weeks ago. Please bring yourself current. Oh wait, I should have known Saint Simons. Now get off the boss’s computer and flip them burgers

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It boggles my mind how many people confuse “loose” with “lose”. If you can get this right, you should have your rights to a keyboard revoked.

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Well said Kyle!

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Nick Fairley can’t hear the whistle, so late hits on the QB, spearing the QB, grinding his facemask into the QB’s chin, rolling uphill to put a helmet on the QB’s knee and driving the QB into the ground isn’t his fault, It’s just good clean football.

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If it were down to 10-1 Auburn and 10-1 LSU for an SEC team in the NC. It would have to be AU simply for beating LSU. If AU were to lose twice, There would be no SEC team in the NCG. One loss AU still goes to the NCG. LSU is out in about any scenario you can come up with.

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Since Auburn has gained ground in the human voter polls for the past two weeks it looks like most of those voters are educated enough to recognize a groundless smear campaign when they see one.

Since that’s the case, Auburn may still not get in with a 12-1 record, but that won’t be due to the Newton smear campaign, it will be because they’d rather put two undefeated teams in the BCS game.

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If the human voters look at the schedule each team in the top 4 plays then a 1 loss AU team belongs in the National Championship. They would have to beat 6 ranked teams to get there. The other 3 teams have to beat 2 ranked teams.

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I know we’re 5-6, lead the nation in player arrests, AJ Green sold a jersey, we did the soulja boy, lost to MSU and colorado, stomped on Auburn’s logo before the game where they beat us, but it’s all Nick Fairley’s fault that the georgia program is unraveling! He is dirty and we are all angels!

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Why do peiople keep bringing up all these unfounded rumors from folks of questionable character about Auburn and Cam Newton? There is not one iota of evidence that Cam Newton or Auburn has done one thing wrong. He is the best player in the countryand Auburn is the best offense in the country. The defense is getting better every week. Get a life, rumnor mongers, and give Auburn its due.

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DawgLuver, no one is blaming Fairley for UGA’s recent issues. This blog is about Auburn/Alabama so why is it not fair game for those who severely dislike him to make that known?

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DawgLuver, how many sacks did Fairley get?

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I won’t watch the NC game if it’s BSU vs TCU (both with only 12 games on their weak schedule). Yawn….

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This year really points out that we need at least a Plus One playoff for the NCAA championship. We currently have over 4 teams that are deserving to play for the NC. Another scenario that would work is to take the top 6 teams into a playoff system and give the top 2 teams a bye. An 8 team or 16 team playoff is out of the question right now. The university presidents aren’t going to go for it. But a Plus One playoff with the top 4 teams would be a good start.

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WarEagle Beagle

Yes Arkansas will be a lot for LSU to defeat.

However, unlike most of the season, LSU now has an offense.

Still, I favor Auburn because they have the most to play for in the Iron Bowl. This is all or nothing when it goes for a shot for the national championship. That game will determine the national champion–one way or another.

As an LSU fan, I must favor Auburn.

Good Luck, Auburn.

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Lots of love today……..and lets hear what you have to say about a college kid that tries to lame and injure players while playing this so called sport…..lets hear about that you idiot!

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@ Hillbillies
Nice Job! Very well thought out.

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DawgLuver, have you ever tried throwing with a bruised sternum?

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You give the powers to be an opportunity and they will put a larger populated school district into the BSC than Auburn. We southerners which don’t even make up half this reading audience should hope Auburn wins and not give these carpet baggers a chance to do some cooking.

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Joe Bob,

Yes they do, but Arky also now has a defense and a running game. The Iron bowl and the Battle for the Boot should be two of the best games this weekend and could be the two best this year.

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No thanks, GT, I’ll pull for the carpet baggers over the “kid” Fairley . . .

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My unbiased opinion is that Alabama will find a way to slow down Cam the Scam after Saban has had two weeks to prepare for him ( I know they played GSU last Thur night but that doesn’t count ). Alabama wins in a close game. Auburn will have it’s hands full with So Carolina on a neutral field. They could lose the last two games. Then the hammer will come down on them will the NCAA rules that Cam’s family violated NCAA rules and they declare him ineligible for post season games.

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Apologies to Kyle. “Lame” can be used as a verb. I stand corrected.

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remember in 07 even Les said that if you don’t win your conference you can’t play for the national title….Wonder if the “Grass eater” will remember that comment if his Lucky S**t University ends up in that situation

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If BSU and TCU aren’t playing worthy competition, they they should never have been ranked so highly to begin with. The best way to make them schedule stronger teams is to rob them of the national attention of continuous discussion due to their high rankings. Just keeping them out of a title game once in a blue moon is not going to effect this change. They have already succeeded if they get national attention and discussion 12 weeks a year. And I don’t buy the line that they can’t get anyone to play them.

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The Auburn pay for play routine continues. The Spartanburg Steven Davis; engineers for the betterment of poor athletes program! There is no question that the AU alumni have a long history of this activity. The only public comments concern Miss State. If those are true, then logic would say that he got a better offer. AU must win out to get to the big game. Oregon must win out to get to the big game. I’d love to see TCU play Boise so that everyone would lose their respective rear ends financially because nobody but the media cares about these play one game a year teams. Wait til the NCAA goes to Boise.

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You haters that are pinning your hopes on some FBI report should read newspapers. Several days ago the FBI told three major newspapers in Alabama that there is no link between the FBI’s investigation of gambling interests and Auburn University/Cam Newton. The much ballyhooed TAPES had zip, zero, nothing about Auburn or Newton. Sorry to ruin your Thanksgiving dinner. The SEC and NCAA are not investigating Auburn and neither office has recommended that Auburn sit Cam Newton out.

The Houston Chronicle has exposed the lie about Newton’s alleged cheating at Florida. Unlike others, the Chronicle’s sources were people that gave their names and job titles, not some “anonymous source”. Newton was in good standing with UF academically and a member in good standing of the Florida football team when he left Gainesville.

It appears that the Heisman and BCS poll voters are educated enough to recognize a smear campaign when they see one. They also probably don’t confuse “loser” with “looser” or “lose” with “loose”.

In the meantime, Auburn is 11-0, Cam Newton is the Heisman front runner and Nick Fairley is a finalist for three national lineman/ defensive player of the year awards. It’s a great time to be an Auburn Tiger!

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Dawg02

I would rather be lucky and 10-1.

As regards your coach, perhaps he should eat some grass.

Somebody had to win the championship in 2007. LSU had a great team, even if they had a loss. Thems the breaks.

Do you have some point to make, or are you just attempting to dig up some old dog bone. LSU currently isn’t playing for the national championship, but they still have a chance of being in the top 3 or 4.

Go mind your sheep.

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FACT – only three people have made any accusations against anyone from the Newton clan.

FACT – all three of those people are Mississippi State alumni

FACT – coaches from other schools have gone on record saying that there was nothing out of the ordinary about Cam’s recruitment.

FACT – Auburn has not been implicated or named in ANYTHING

FACT – the three Mississippi State boosters have repeatedly changed their stories.

FACT – the three Mississippi State boosters have conveniently been unable to retrieve any of their alleged recorded conversations or text messages

FACT – Auburn’s compliance director used to work for the NCAA and knows what can, can’t, should, shouldn’t be done in terms of player eligibility

FACT – Auburn has consulted with the NCAA about whether or not to play Cam. Based on what is known, Auburn has not received any recommendation to sit him.

FACT – these allegations have been out there for a year now. The SEC/NCAA/Mississippi State have known for a very long time.

FACT – After Mississippi State heard these concerns over Newton’s recruitment, they continued to recruit him.

These are the facts of the case, and they are undisputed. Please present the FACTS of the case for the opposing view, as you know them. (And please stick to the current situation. Yes, Auburn has been caught numerous times before. Let’s stick to the Cam Newton case and not circumstantial evidence from1956.)

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your “advice to Auburn” ?? Wow.. did they teach you those reasoning capabilities at Georgia? LOL… what a tool…

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I find it hard to believe that the powers that be (television and college leadership) can not come up with a profitable and logical way to design a playoff system and keep the bowls to appease the fans. Naive as it may be, I would even consider playing the bowls AFTER a playoff, to ensure they remain the fun (for fans and players) and profitable (for t.v. and colleges) events they used to be.

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I agree about LSU, Tony. If a one loss Auburn should be good enough for the championship, so should LSU. That would be interesting because UGA fans still sting around here about all the excuses made to keep them out of the 2007 championship. Voters purposely voted them low to make that happen (I heard some as low as #10). If LSU is allowed to play, there will be some serious eyebrow raising. No one was playing better in 2007 than UGA in the second half of the year, but UGA is not a perceived elite program nationally, so they got left out.

Oklahoma and Nebraska were allowed to play for the BCS title without a conference title. If LSU is allowed to play, it will reinforce the already strong belief that college football is biased towards perceived elite programs.

I would extend that same sentiment to Auburn if voted down because of Cam Newton. Would the voters do the same if he played for Florida, USC, or Ohio St? Answer is no.

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Cam will be outside in a van doing the homeboy shopping network with 2 for 1 laptops.
Mo Money
Mo Money

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Tony, I can’t believe the television and college leadership don’t realize that the unprecedented popularity of college football is a temporal thing. Life is cyclical and at some point–two years or ten years–from now, it will not be nearly as popular nor as profitable. They might stretch the profits a little farther if they installed an acceptable playoff system. The NCAA’s tack is apparently to ignore the mounting numbers of scandals and disgruntlement and ride the current pony until it drops.

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Playoff scenario? That would only make sense!!!

I envision Division I growing to 128 teams. There will be 8 conferences of 16 teams each. 8 conference champions make it to the big time playoff. You could still have another 25 or so bowls for the teams that won’t win their conference title.

Sure, you’ll have someone like Southern Miss win the Conference USA title, but they’d go in as a 6 seed, or so. And end up against the ACC Champ. If you don’t win your conference title, you’re not in the playoffs – easy.

First round … Cotton, Chick-Fil-A, Fiesta, Orange. Semifinals … Rose, Sugar. And then the title game.

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Don Domingo, the reason they do not currently have conference championship games is that they can’t per NCAA rules. You have to have 12 teams for a championship. Next year the Big 10 and the Pac 12 will have conference championship games because they have enough teams now after expansion. The Big 12 wont have one though so Texas and Oklahoma could only possibly play 12 games.

The only way to really enforce a standard schedule would be to either drop the 12 team rule or force the conferences to add teams until they get to 12. The BCS does not have nearly enough power to make either one of those happen.

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I Agree…How can internet keyboard pounding when we should be working run of the mill Joes figure this out? The advertisers still win, the number of bowls stays the same or goes up. You get a true champion which is what the majority of the people want, I think.

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GT Bob .. you’re absolutely right.

But I also think the conference realignment conversation is not done after last year. I think the Big 12-soon-to-be-10 is on wobbly legs. I think the Big East could fold at any second.

Here’s a VERY far-fetched idea that will bring laughs .. what if the Former Big 12 and the former Big East meet in the middle with their best 16 teams and former a super-Conference called something like the “All America Conference.” Oklahoma, Texas, Oklahoma State, Syracuse, Pittsburgh, West Virginia …

U Conn and Rutgers then get taken by the Big 10-now-12 to grab the Northeast Market,

Crazy, but is it out of the question?

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NCAA is investigating. That means Auburn is going down. They never “investigate” and find “nothing”. Doesn’t happen. Auburn fans know this, just keep denying it.

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Of course the Newton controversey will influence voters for the BCS polls and the Heisman, but it should not. I personally believe there is a considerable conflagration behind all the smoke (not just for Auburn but for all of “big-time” college football), but it makes no sense and is grossly unfair to put too much stock in rumor and speculation. Current company excepted, Mr. CFB, most sports-opinion media types are worse than a bunch of old ladies at a quilting bee. The NCAA should be investigated (but by whom?) for their practices: this info should have been released in a public press release, not “leaked” by reporters of dubious bias. The NCAA should keep a running public register of current investigations under way…this would diffuse the situation since so many unsubstantiated claims would impact every program. It would be difficult to focus on just one player or one school, deserved or not. Lastly, the NFL needs to get in on this, with penalties for players and coaches who have been officially sanctioned or punished by the NCAA before entering the pro ranks.

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FACT, you may be right…for better or worse. But either way Auburn fans should just relax and enjoy every minute of the glory they can, for it will be fleeting. IF they never find anything to incriminate CN or AU, the next season is never far off. Enjoy the high you are riding on, and hope it carries on a little further.

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The SEC is one of the back-biting-est bunch of ol’ bitties in sports. It is entertaining to see the way Bama and UGA and UF and LSU fans are relishing at the squirming Auburn folks. Entertaining because they are all swimming in the same corrupted, polluted, money-choked pool. And it certainly isn’t just the SEC…the NCAA should be worried more than a little because the SEC will not go quietly like the old SWC did…they will take everyone else with them.

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Someone is standing in my office right now with a UGA hat and an Auburn tshirt…no lie…

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They’ll still get the death penalty for paying players.

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You will cry Tony, then go back to defending the SEC your buddy Silve & company for their decisions on Fairley, Cam and poor review process while calling for the head of Grantham for showing a little emotion. I am convinced the SEC so called leaders are crooked and you will pay for being honest it seems.

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Cam Newton and Auburn represent everything that is wrong with college football……Roll Tide!!!! (and I’m not even a Bama fan!)

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Your comments are mean. Therefore I hope you get run over by a cement mixer on the way home today. And that it then backs up and runs you over again. And then pours cement on your corpse.

Was I justified in saying that?

Thanks for not being able to respond to ANY of the things I said. Just curl up in a ball, hope you can beat a horribly depleted Tech squad and eke your way into the Birmingham Bowl.

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If LSU can’t win its divison it doesn’t deserve a shot at the MNC.

This coming from an LSU Fan.

But all you little Poodles pissing and moaning like you doing just renforces to the rest of the SEC that you are the whineist bunch of b*tches in the conference.

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FAQ- the NCAA never makes recommendations on whether or not to sit a player- institutions do it on their own while an investigation is under way. For most schools- such as UGA and Alabama in the cases of Green and Dareus, it is SOP. Many observers (including SI’s Stewart Mandel) are stunned at the hubris of Auburn for ignoring this protocol. I realize that Auburn and Newton may be cleared of everything and life will be beautiful but if they are found guilty of anything, expect the NCAA to come down exremely hard because of this perceived arrogance.

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“What happens if Auburn loses to Alabama but wins SEC title?”

They go on to play for the national championship like LSU did has done.

I’m not a fan of the BCS (we need a playoff) or the SEC (too many dummies) but TCU and Boise State haven’t played anyone.

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Lots of love…bottom line…and YOU havent responded to this- UGA wasnt the first game that Fairley has tried to injure a player…..its not like this hasnt been brought uop before. ANY player from ANY school that intentionally tries to injure another player has no room in this game. Justify it all you want…..and as far as you being justified in what you say- who cares. You are a Auburn supporter and that makes you trash in my book. Like you are entitled to your opinion, so am I. We may or may not be in birmingham this bowl season…but lets hear your thoughts on all of a sudden being 0-12. could very well happen…time will tell

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Funny how you have already named AU the SEC Champion when SC still stands in the way and they are no bum team. They have played a hard schedule and won most of their games. BTW, Spurrier will have them juiced and ready to play come Dec 4th in Atlanta.

Who cares about the thief and the cheater as he is just another example of the Thugs that continue to get recruited by the SEC?

Enough Said!

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Fairley is just a thug that is bitter because he cant figure out who is daddy really is.

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I’ve never been fond of SC, their fans or Spurrier, but after witnessing what I did at Auburn a couple of weeks ago I might just have to pull for the c0cks and wish that there is no SEC team playing for the title for the first time in 5 years

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Does everyone forget that AU had the NCAA on campus Thursday and Friday before the GA game. Cam’s dad was there and admitted to them, that he asked money from Miss St., AU was not solicited, this is a Miss St. issue. Don’t you think based on those conversation’s, the NCAA would have told AU to sit Cam if, under those circumstances, he was ineligable. AU would not put it in the NCAA’s face after a two day meeting.

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Its not that complicated….hmmmmm…if that’s the case and Cammies dad really admitted to that, then we need to take a look at the SEC BY LAWS….it clearly states, that if any family member solicites pay for a player AT ANY MEMBER SCHOOL, that PLAYER is INELIGABLE to PLAY at ANY SEC SCHOOL……Lets see what Mikey Slive does….

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Don’t you think based on those conversation’s, the NCAA would have told AU to sit Cam if, under those circumstances, he was ineligable.

Nope, they wouldn’t. Not at his point in the season.

Oh, and the word you are looking for is “ineligible.”

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WHO CARES !

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If Auburn loses to Bama it’s over. The SEC East is weak and the world knows it…so beating South Carolina isn’t going to impress anyone. Plus, any voter located in Pac-10 or Big Ten country is going to vote for Boise to play Oregon in the National Chsmpionship game so the Rose Bowl is released from it’s obligation to select a non-AQ team…thus providing a Stanford vs Wisconsin Rose Bowl…the way it’s meant to be. Sorry boys and girls….people like Tony consider the season itself to by a “playoff”…well…when you lose a playoff game, you’re out. Good luck Auburn.

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You are right, it’s not that complicated

November 23rd, 2010
12:17 pm
The NCAA can’t sit a player, it’s up to the institute to make that decision.

But the SEC can.

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I say if Bama beats Auburn it won’t be by a little. If Auburn loses to Bama they are done if BSU or TCU go undefeated. Beating USC in the championship game shouldn’t give them that big a boost. SC has lost what three games? I just don’t think it will be enough to jump back to #2. I say give BSU or TCU the shot and if they blow it, then we won’t have to hear that argument for a while.

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The SEC officials have been making close calls go to the higher ranked team all year. I think they are favoring the higher ranked team (maybe not intentionaly or for any pay off), but for the “good” of the SEC. This could make a difference in the Auburn-Alabama game and in the SEC championshlip game as well.

After the GA-Auburn game I will never pull for an Auburn team. I used to pull for them when they were not playing UGA because of the many ties between the schools with Vince Dooley, Pat Dye, Erk Russel, etc. They are now the OUTLAW TEAM in the SEC in my opinion. I have never seen a team play as dirty as Auburn did in that game.

All the SEC schools knew about Cam Newton’s past troubles at Florida. Deciding to recruit him, knowing what his past is, was proof to me that Auburn is willing to do anything to win. I guess being second to Alabama in everything from academics to ping pong has this effect on them.

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.They will lose both games and it won’t matter. Then when the Cam scandal is all fully revealed (due to accidentally catching it on the FBI wire taps from the Alabama politician bribery for legalized gambling charges) the NCCA and SEC won’t have to suffer through a school stripped of everything and possibly death penalty. The Bobby Lowder chickens will finally come home to roost

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None of that matters! Alabama is guaranteed to win another NC this year. We have it in writing.

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How did you get this information Mr. Gumby? We must have a leak around here. That was not suppose to come out yet.

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Anything bad that happens to Auburn is good and just…..this team and its coaches deserve to be humiliated over and over and over and over again. The death penality would be the sweetest but doubt that will happen. but how sweet would it be!!!!! I am not a Dawg or Bama fan but did watch the game last week- any team that plays and handles themselves like this team did is an embarrassment to anyone that loves this game

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Looks like Les’s words back in 07 may come back to haunt him…….LOVE IT!

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@ Pete

lol what channell were you watching last week to see Auburn playing dirty?

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Just let the teams play their games and see who has the most points at the end of the game. This is my first and last time to post here. I enjoy Tony’s analysis and commentary, but these comments by fans (surely not alumni, given the grammar and spelling) are so over the top. And fellow UGA fans, we have little room to speak with a squad that boasts numerous arrests and charges that go relatively unpunished. Any boy (certainly not a man) who hits and runs from an accident, or fails to show up in court for a traffic ticket, or gets into a drunken brawl two years before he’s allowed to drink, or drives a motor scooter drunk, or…… well, you get the idea…..any kid who is capable of such stupidity is capable of taking big wads of cash–from daddy, from the big booster, from anybody. That’s what coaches are for (not to give’em cash, haha): to help them curb their immature stupidity and grow up.

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There are some real sick people on the blog. I am with you Dawg94. Good post

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If they win out it will be great when they have to vacate the entire season. Cam Newton will be in the NFL laughing all the way to the bank while poor Auburn is stuck picking up the pieces. Anyone who thinks otherwise is fooling themselves.

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Tell, bro Dawg’94. Hopefully, 98% of this banter is just pre-rivalry weekend trash talk, but something tells me that many of these delusional fans from all teams really believe some of this junk. Not to get Biblical on you people, but let the first pure-hearted fan from the first immaculate school and football program cast the first stone. Here’s Auburn, Alabama, Florida, and even Georgia and Tennessee, each with a football budget several times that of an Ole Miss or Miss State, braying about sportsmanship and the sanctity of the game. From top to bottom the SEC and every other major conference…even every major program….is corrupt to some degree. It’s not “who’s guilty?”…it’s “who got caught?” Certainly some AD’s try to run clean programs, but even they give a wink and a nod when they feel they must. Fans in glass stadia shouldn’t throw stones…or cowbells…or beer bottles….or…..

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There probably is a good chance that Arkansas does take out LSU since Les is so focused on how to spin it to get into the NC game if Auburn loses.

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Hey Russ…The only people who MIGHT be able to cast a stone are the GA State fans….isn’t this their first year fielding a team??

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Who was on probation last….UGA or AU?

Who else besides Alabama was in a bidding war to get Albert Means? Did UGA coaches report that Means’ coaches were shopping him around?

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Fact: UGA has beaten Auburn 6 of last 10 meetings
Fact: Auburn is or will be under NCAA investigation
Fact: There is no such award by the name of Fulmer Cup
Fact: McGregor (a major Auburn booster) is involved in cheating
Fact: Bama is a 5 point favorite Friday for a reason

Okay, the truth hurts sometimes.

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Nick Fairly hates these comments. Watch out.

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So you think a 2 game suspension for a traffic court ditch is “relatively unpunished”? Interesting. By what standard?

One sure way to seperate THAT and what is going on over at AU is this: That didn’t exactly require a visit from THE FBI.

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BAMA Dude, Wishing you guys a lot of luck on Friday.

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Cobb Dawg
November 23rd, 2010
11:22 am

“They’ll still get the death penalty for paying players.”

Two ways to tell if a poster is truly ignorant. Either they type “loose” when they mean lose, or they claim Auburn could get the death penalty out of this.

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Thanks gdawg. I think Tuscaloosa annexed most of Georgia for one day starting Friday.

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Another way to identify ignorance: The poster types something about FBI in conjunction with Auburn. FBI spokesmen have told three newspapers in Alabama that there is no connection between the gambling investigation and Auburn University. The FBI has completed evaluating all those TAPES that were going to be the smoking gun and found nothing about Auburn or Cam Newton.

If some of you guys would read a newspaper before you post you wouldn’t look so ill informed.

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MikeP, all the reports said were that there was nothing on the McGregor tapes about Cam Newton. The FBI investigating Colonial Bank could be very bad news for Auburn.

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@ bama dude

wake up wake up your dream is over reality is coming in just a couple days lol

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To all Bama Fan’s. Roll Tide Roll !!! Wreck AU’s season.

GATA !!!!!!!!!!!!!

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BAMA dude,

Spare a small portion of Cam on Friday so the SEC Champs Carolina can finish him off in the Dome.

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There’s a newspaper in Alabama?

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@ how2fish

don’t forget the phrase “on his behalf” in the rule. If Cam had no knowledge of and received no benefit from then was it “on his behalf”?

I don’t think so. I could extort money from you with the false promise that I could deliver Cam’s signature. Would that discussion make Cam ineligible?

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Sure fire way to get all the Barnyard folks off this post is when they nail Barnyard U to the tune of 0-12……

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Bama Dude…correct. Which is why all the talk of the Barnyard having the NCAA in two days before the UGA game is pretty stupid. The NCAA isnt going to tell them to sit a player. Mike Slive and the SEC really are in a tough spot now- I cant wait to see how they react. Now that Cammies Dad admitted (if he actually did could be up for debate), it seems the SEC is moving really slow…..that leads me to beleive that his dad did not openly admit it. if that was the case, the SEC would have had to make a decision based on their own by-laws.

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The SEC doesn’t want to do anything to Auburn since it’s all about titles and money. They are staying well enough alone and letting the NCAA deal with it. Look at how fast the SEC moved on the Jewish mobster running the UT hoops program. Do you think if it were late in the season and UT was ranked in the top 5 they would have done the same thing with the same information? Not a chance!!! Wake up people.

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Cory….the SEC cant ignore their by-laws. Do you thinks the other 11 presidents wont be raising cane over that?? Problem for the SEC office is that they have quoted and used their by-laws before. For them to stick their head in the sand this time wont fly with the other schools

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Just so you know Ed, bad is relative. Auburn would shut down Boise. You do realize that Auburn’s players are faster, bigger, and stronger than those players at Boise Smurf State. Come on man, they don’t play big boy football in I D A H O for gosh sakes. That big old AU tackle would plant that little QB mid way first quarter and that would be that.

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AltaDawg, yes there is a paper in Alabama what do you think they wrap their fish with?

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I supported giving Cam Newton every benefit of the doubt for a long time. And I’m not saying he’s guilty. However there is no requirement of a pollster that they adhere to the same standard required as a juror in a court of law. A pollster’s doubt doesn’t have to be BEYOND reasonable. It just needs to BE reasonable. To fault a voter for acting on a reasonable doubt would be foolish.

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I just hope the people that are “in the know” are aware of some information that we are not privy to that clears Cam to play.

Surely this is the only explanation for the SEC and NCAA not stepping in already.

I seriously doubt AU’s compliance director would let him play if there was not a good reason to think he was eligible.

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Who was on probation last….UGA or AU?

Not sure but we know who has been on probation the most dont we ?

MOST-PENALIZED DIVISION I PROGRAMS:

Arizona State 8

Southern Methodist 8

Auburn 7

Florida State 7

Memphis 7

Minnesota 7

Oklahoma 7

Texas A&M 7

Wichita State 7

Wisconsin 7

✭Nine programs have been penalized six times, including USC and UCLA.

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I think the Barners feel the Big Mo swinging -darn near violently- toward Bama this Friday. And understandably so. Oxford, Lexington and Starkville are cute little stadiums featuring nicely appointed mid-range SEC football programs . . . but they aren’t Bryant-Denny and a Saban-led Alabama team. 101,000 heavily armed fanatics practically willing Bama to gain first downs and score and cause turn-overs. And no preppy adoring crowd to boost Cam’s ego and paycheck next year. With Aubarner’s schedule, even Ole Miss could be a winner this year. Seriously. Barners, wear clean panties Friday–you’ll need ‘em when they drag you into the emergency room in Lee County with LostAgainSpasms. All in!!

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“I seriously doubt AU’s compliance director would let him play if there was not a good reason to think he was eligible”

Hahaahahahaaaaahaaaaa! I had to pick my arse up after reading that one. I laughed it off. This is Auburn football and Bobby “I will learn to like prison chowder” Lowder you are talking about right?

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I like all the Bama/UGA tough talk on here. Enjoy the rest of your meaningless season.

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No matter who plays in the SREC championship, the rednecks from Athens will not be there unless it is to pull against Steve Spurrier and Cam Newton-both of whom kicked the dog squeezings out of the redneck bumpkins and their cheap walmart dress and getup. Let us all hope that the sissies from North Avenue come up with a miracle and stop the Dawgs from playing until next September where I pray that Boise State kicks their sorry asses and starts another 5-6 run. It says everything about a university when Junior Samples is their most prominent grad.

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TONY EASY QUESTION HERE

WHAT HAS SUBURN BEEN ACCUSED OF? i HAVE SEEN NOTHING TO ACCUSE AUBURN OF ANYTHING.

SOME PEOPLE WILL SAY WHERE THERE IS SMOKE THERE IS FIRE BUY IN REALITY WHAT SOME PEOPLE THINK IS SMOKE IS NOTHING BUT STEAM RISING FOR A BIG PILE OF S#%t.

ALL OF WRITERS ARE GOING TO OWE CAM AND AUBURN A BIG APOLOGY IN THE END! BUT I DOUBT ANY OF YUO HAVE THE GUTS TO WRITE IT

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We didn’t do it and
If we did do it, the coaches didn’t know about it and
Milton McGregor has no official connection to Auburn and
Everyone else does it and
We won’t do it again and
The NCAA is just like Nazi Germany and
Okay, we won’t recruit off campus for a year and
Okay, we will give up 3 scholly’s one year and
Okay, 12 schollys and no recruiting off campus for 1 year and
Okay, 18 schollys and no recruiting off campus for 18 months and
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It’s amazing the hate for the Auburn Tigers. I guess when you are on top, everyone wants to knock you down. Well, we’re going to enjoy the ride and let the haters hate because that’s what envious people do. Everyone in here would want Fairley on their team and when Cam wins the Heisman and is cleared of any infractions, you’ll wish you could have had him too. It’s great to be an Auburn Tiger…11-0!!!!! SEC WEST CHAMPS!!! #2 in the BCS!!!! Try and catch up.

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AUGUYinATL

November 23rd, 2010
4:22 pm
It’s amazing the hate for the Auburn Tigers. I guess when you are on top, everyone wants to knock you down. Well, we’re going to enjoy the ride and let the haters hate because that’s what envious people do.

You could win 100 games in a row and I’d never be envious of anything in Lee County. That place can fall into a sinkhole for all I care. In fact, the world would probably be a better place- certainly better smeeling anyway.

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BAMA dudette— really? No fan of Tuscaloosa should say a thing about any other city. You have to hire body guards to as you drive to the UA campus.

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In other news, Greg McElroy has been named the Academic All-American of the Year. Congrats to the kid, bet he never had to turn in someone else’s paper with his name on it like a certain QB and DL we all know…

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Bama dude…..that was impressive that McElroy was nominated to receive the Rhodes Scholar. Too bad he didn’t make it, but just getting that far is a feat in itself.

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AU guy in ATL….LMAO Dude….like the Barn is some storied program…..you have to look west for that in the state of Alabama. The Barn is having a good run THIS year and chances are good that will come crashing down soon. Enjoy YOUR year dude…..LMAO….like you OWN someone in the coference. LMAO>>>>

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AU Guy….dont flatter yourself loser……like the barn has a history of great teams…how quickly you forget the butt kickings that the folks from UGA/Bama/UF have administered over the years. There is a reason Bama, UGA and UF are way ahead of the Barn in SEC Championships….

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Winston Wolfe

I agree 100%. The UGA/Auburn rivaly was never as bitter as UGA/Tech or Alabama/Auburn. But that has definitely changed now, and what goes around comes around.

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Jeff
You do know Auburn has the series lead against UGA right?

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Right or wrong, Auburn will not be ranked in the top 2 if they drop either game. I think with all of the controversy surrounding the program right now, the pollsters are probably looking for an excuse to move another team past them. I don’t agree with it, but that’s how I see it playing out “IF” Auburn loses either game. They control their own destiny, which is all any team can hope for at the end of the season.

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LSU at 11-1? Let’s see how that looks after the Arkansas game.

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5150…yeah…by 2 games….WOW! 6-4 UGA last 10…..sooooooo your point is? Like I said- I dont see the Barn dominating anything…..BTW, what is the Bama-Barn series record…..from the smack the barnyard talks I would think that one is close also….hmmmm

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Hey. listen up, you Bammers and UGAs. We are more smarter than ya’ll is thinking. We’ll WIN, WIN, WIN! And Cam is our hero and he don’t know nothing! If so, prove it! Understand? War Dadblasted Eagle!

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Boy, bama looks like they can’t live with Auburn taking their glory. I guess bama thinks their light is brighter when Auburns light is not as bright. Sounds childish doesn’t it. Welcome to the iron bowl.

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To me, any thought of LSU, or ANY team that does not win their own conference, is out of ANY discussion for the so-called “National Championship” game. If you do not win your own conference, accordinging to your own conference rules, you should not be considered. Georgia, who is “my team”, tried this approach a few years ago, and that was also political BS! Since it is not a real championship, because it is voted on instead of proven on the field, it matters not who plays. If Oregon and Boise are undefeated, (maybe along with TCU with a weaker schedule), then two of those three should play for the mythical championship. It will sell a lot of merchandise, but anyone who who really loves college football, regardless of their loyalty, can not believe that they are the real “Champs”…they are mythical without a playoff, and voted on rather than having earned the big prize!!! The NCAA and the BCS want a way out, and do not want the “little guys” to beat the automatic qualifiers. The “BIG EAST” gets a spot, but not Boise or TCU? Give me a break.

At 5-6, and hoping to beat a 6-5 GT team, I have no “Dawg” in the fight….but to even think about a team, even a one loss SEC team who did not win their conference, is pure BS!!! Go Broncos or Frogs, hope you get a chance, but not against each other in other than the Big Game! I predict Oregon VS. Boise for the mythical championship. BOISE WINS!!!!! Then, the Dawgs beat the mythical champs in the Dome first game next year! GO DAWGS!!

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I think a one loss Stanford team should go ahead of either a one loss LSU team or a one loss Auburn team……better strength of schedule.

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What happens if all the tech nerds really ARE all virgins?

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LSU is not in the national picture. Rememeber as they told Georgia back in 2007, if you don’t win your conference you can’t have a shot at the NC. Funny how things come back around huh LSU. Georgia would have beaten your 2007 team by 3 touchdowns but never got the chance. So neither should you!

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SEC Observer, obiviously we Dawg fans are not dumb and seems we have much better memories than the LSU fans do.

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Auburn’s cheating shouldn’t get them a title—the SEC should declare newton ineligible immediately and force auburn to forfeit all those games they won while newton was on the take. At Alabama, Coach Saban wouldn’t allow this type of cheating.

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Has anyone WATCHED LSU play this year? They barely beat terrible Tennessee (some would say gifted teh game), barely beat Mississippi (lost to an FCS team, and yes that should make people think twice about a one-loss auburn if that loss is in the Iron Bowl). They don’t deserve to be in over Boise, maybe TCU. But in the event Boise were to lose, I think it’s either Wisconsin or TCU. LSU didn’t even win their division and they’d be jumping a team they lost to.

Boise is the best team in the country. And. this is what I can’t stand, lets not forget what happens in that last poll if there’ any dispute. Pollsters essentially vote for the game they want to see. Remember when LSU jumped Georgia to get into the game. The BCS has to find a way to get an undefeated Boise into the championship (assuming auburn or Oregon lose), or those lawsuits and congressional probes become very very real. Remember those bowl dollars are tax-free educationl funds, so if there is not equal access to those dollars (like when you destroy oregon, return all your starters, and don’t lose a game, or have a close game) you may have some problems.

-This is the same reason why despite what the BCS guidelines say, undefeated TCU and Boise are both going to BCS games.

-All you crazy people from the SEC who want to base this on TALENT alone are kidding yourselves. Alabama lost to Mississippi who lost to an FCS team, and a mediocre South Carolina team. Va Tech lost to #4 Boise and an FCS team, and won the rest of their games…No we’re supposed to believe 1-loss Auburn (to either that bama team or SC) is better than Boise…GTFO…

-BCS is dead if a one loss SEC team jumps boise (TCU shat the bed, so they could jump them and no backlash)

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Auburn has had a great season so far and it ends friday at 1:30 PM. Bama plays at a
different level at home and the tigers defense is very average at best!!! RTR

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how2fish

November 23rd, 2010
3:02 pm

“MikeP maybe if your read the Atlanta papers and saw where Cecil admitted…”

Maybe if YOU read the Atlanta papers you would see that somebody said that some anonymous source said that Cecil asked for money. Big difference.

Oh yeah: I paid A.J. green $50 for his wristbands last week. Better hold him out of the Tech game until the NCAA gets this all sorted out.

See how dumb that is?

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Just for the record, AJ Green was in South Beach.

Auburn may be bad, but we all know who won the Fulmer Cup.

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Auburn beats bama by 10—relax—their D is average this year and Cam will run all over the field with ease! Fairley will get 3-4 sacks alone and the bama O will have big problems. AU 30 Bama 19—book it.

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I think there is not doubt that Vandy, because they are an SEC team, should be in the NC game no matter how many losses they have…..the SEC is just better than everyone else on the planet….and I say that knowing the Pac 10 has beat the SEC in head to head competition over the past decade…I just choose to ignore that fact an talk about what difficult schedules the SEC teams have to endure….like LSU playing McNeese State and Louisiana Monroe….I mean those are really good football teams I don’t care what you think….and LSU had to get ready for both of them within a six week period….nobody else in the country can do that on a consistent basis….LMAO

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@Fan of the Game: My point exactly…..even Vandy could destroy any Pac 10 team for the NC…..the fact that the Pac 10 has beat the SEC in head to head competition over the past decade is irrelevant….our teams were just saving up…..taking a week off…for that impossible SEC schedule they had to go back to…..McNeese State, Louisiana Monroe, Louisiana Lafayette, Coastal Carolina, Georgia Southern, Georgia State…..the list goes on…its brutal.

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Forget about LSU with one loss, they will have two after saturdays loss to Arkansas.

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I always root for the worst possible championship matchup. To have any hope of ever getting a better playoff system….we need to aggrevate as many people as possible and have a lousy championship matchup. TCU vs Boise st for instance.

No….I am not pulling for Bama in the Iron bowl…..I am pulling against Auburn. There is a difference.

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DirtyDawg, if you are going to discuss somebody, in this case Bobby Lowder, at least spell his name correctly. “Louder” makes you seem ill-informed….Oh, wait….

About Cam;s “track record” here’s an article from the Houston Chronicle that totally debunks the lie about Newton cheating at Florida and being in academic trouble there. Link, just in case you are interested in facts: http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/college/7294741.html

The SEC and NCAA have known about all this stuff since January. If there was a problem with Cam Newton playing for Auburn they would have advised Auburn to hold him out back in August. They didn’t do that.

That smoke you are smelling is you being duped by somebody blowing smoke from a smoke machine. Wise up, relax, and help us enjoy Auburn’s run to the roses!

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I know it’s late but the Houston Chronicle?
Really? That’s what you got? I don’t even care about
that situation but the Houston Chronicle? Where is that
place again?

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Why yes, I’ve got the Houston Chronicle, a legitimate news outlet with quotes from named sources, unlike the irresponsible bloggers with anonymous “he said she said” snippets. What do you have?

A great way to identify ignorance is if a poster mentions Auburn getting the death penalty. You immediately know that they don’t understand the rules that qualify a school for the death penalty are are too lazy to look those rules up.

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