Cameron Newton story reaching critical mass

It was my hope this morning to take a break from the ongoing, sordid saga that as become the Cameron Newton story and write about what is going to be another great football weekend:

We have the No. 2 team in the nation (Auburn) trying to stay alive in the race for the national championship against a traditional rival (Georgia) which needs a signature win to save its season.

We have the drama of a winner take all game at Florida where Steve Spurrier, the former Gator coach, has a chance to take South Carolina to its first-ever SEC championship game.

But the Cameron Newton story has sucked all of the oxygen out of this college football season. It’s sad. But you can’t ignore it even if you want to.

So for the second straight week we will not do our Fearless Friday Forecast.  Here, based on a very long Thursday, is where I believe we are on the Cameron Newton Story:

We are quickly reaching critical mass. Two big events happened yesterday that make me feel this way.

 Remember that ESPN.com reported on Wednesday that: “Two sources who can recruit for Mississippi State  said that Cecil Newton and his son, quarterback Cam Newton, admitted in separate phone conversations to a pay-for-play plan while Newton was being recruited last year.” The claim was that Newton told Mississippi State coaches that he wasn’t coming to Starkville because his dad got a deal to ship him somewhere else. Let me also point out that there is no evidence and no one claiming directly that Auburn has broken any rules.

Yesterday we reminded you that Mississippi State originally brought the idea to the SEC that there might be some problems with Cameron Newton’s recruitment. The SEC asked for more information but that additional information was not forthcoming until July. So inquiring minds wanted to know why,  if Mississippi State had direct info that Newton had made this claim to staff members, wasn’t this dealt with this summer? That is a very serious charge.

But the SEC, through spokesman Charles Bloom, revealed that in the reports that it received back from Mississippi State on this issue there was no mention–none–of any such conversations between staffers and the Newtons. I independently confirmed that last night with the SEC office.

So on this matter we are left to draw one of three conclusions:

1. Mississippi State did not share that information with the SEC because it did not want to get that deeply involved in the case and hoped it would just go away.

2. The conversations that were reported by ESPN.com may have taken place but were not with Mississippi State assistant coaches or the head coach (the only people allowed to recruit under NCAA rules) but were with lower level staffers. Thus the Mississippi State brass was not aware of them.

3. The conversations never took place and were incorrectly reported.

Here is the second big item: Last night Kenny Rogers, the former Mississippi State player who started this story, decided to “come clean” on a talk show in Dallas. Accompanied by this attorney (who was on the phone), Rogers told host Ian Fitzsimmons that he and Cameron Newton’s father, Cecil, met with Mississippi State coaches in Starkville on Nov. 27, 2009. Rogers said Cecil Newton asked for money to sign his son and that one of the Mississippi State coaches said “No, no I don’t want to hear that.”

Rogers said later in the interview that Cecil Newton told him that it would take “Anywhere between $100,000 and $180,000″ for his son to sign with Mississippi State.

I spoke with Fitzsimmons last night and he confirmed that all of the reporting on Rogers’ appearance was accurate.

We now have a new name in this this mix. Bill Bell is a successful Mississippi State booster and  told ESPN.com last night that Cecil Newton did in fact ask for money to sign his son. Rogers said that he was referred to Bell on the issue of money.  Bell also said he has already discussed this matter with the NCAA.

Rogers also said that he first contacted Cecil Newton to offer his help when Cameron left Florida. Rogers said that Cecil Newton said, in so many words,  ”It’s not gonna be free this time.”

Folks, I’ve been covering this league a long time but it looks like were are definitely in some uncharted waters here. Just a few observations as we move forward:

**–I know Mississippi State has a game on Saturday with Alabama, but if I’m the SEC I want every coach on that staff, including the head coach, to look me in the eye and tell me if Cecil Newton or Cameron Newton actually made those claims. And if those coaches lie to me they will be fired on the spot and will never–EVER–get another job in college athletics again.

**–The FBI has gotten involved and we’re not sure why. But former Mississippi State player John Bond, whose contact with Kenny Rogers started this story, said yesterday that he’ll be talking to the FBI.

**–Cecil Newton is not talking to the media any more and has lawyered up.

**–This story has been going on for more than a week and there is not one allegation that Auburn has done anything wrong.  I am not saying I know Auburn hasn’t done anything wrong. We don’t know. I am familiar with the enforcement and compliance staff over there led by Rich McGlynn, and they are a pretty tough bunch. If they had some evidence that Cameron Newton’s father got money from anybody to sign his son, the school would have to sit him. It looks like a roll of the dice to me given all the smoke but you can’t sit the kid if you don’t have some evidence.

**–Does the mere solicitation of money, even if it was not acted upon, constitute an NCAA rules violation? There seems to be some debate on that. An NCAA spokesperson told Yahoo Sports that, in general terms, if somebody solicted money on Newton’s behalf, even if the solicitation was not acted upon, then that constitutes an NCAA violation. Attorney Don Jackson, who represents athletes in cases such as these, questioned that claim when he appeared on Paul Finebaum’s show yesterday. But if that is true and the NCAA has reason to believe that somebody solicted money for Newton, including Newton’s father, the NCAA can recommend that Auburn sit Newton down until the matter is resolved.

**–If that happens, Auburn will have a decision to make. Remember that it is the responsibility of the institution to sit the player if there are possible rules violations. That’s what Georgia did in the case of A.J. Green. Once the player is suspended, then the institution applies for reinstatement. In the case of Green the NCAA denied reinstatement until after Green served a four-game suspension. So this isn’t on the NCAA or the SEC. It’s on Auburn. And as of Friday morning Auburn appears to be ”All In” on Cameron Newton. If you love Auburn, and have a lot of friends who do, you had better pray Jay Jacobs and the rest of that staff are right.

Stay tuned. This story is moving fast and a lot could happen between now and Saturday’s 3:30 kickoff.

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746 comments Add your comment

We Are Family

November 12th, 2010
8:05 am

We shall stand in denial until Hell freezes over. We shall nitpick every nuance of every speck of evidence presented. We shall deride the process and condemn the investigators. We shall create straw-man arguments to deflect attention away from the facts of the case.

We shall fly down the field — ever to conquer, never to yield.

WAR CAM EAGLE

Vic Doley

November 12th, 2010
8:12 am

All part of the Southern Gothic that is college football. What are you gonna do but watch the play unfold?

Beast from the East

November 12th, 2010
8:12 am

We Are Family, LOL!
Enough already. Let’s just drop it until somehting, anything can be confirmed.
Go Gators!

zac

November 12th, 2010
8:13 am

tony,

is there a written rule that you cannot make two blog posts in one day (ie on addressing this situation, and another with the fearless friday forecast)? don’t blame the story of the day on everything.

More SEC Cheating

November 12th, 2010
8:14 am

Hey Tony, with all the cheating and pathetic play of the SEC Least, is it true they have replaced the SEC championship with Fat Phil’s Fish Fry? Do you think Colorado could win the SEC Least?

Journalists?!?

November 12th, 2010
8:15 am

This whole quagmire is beginning to smell an awful lot like the Duke Lacrosse case. Media members appointed themselves judge and jury and, given the opportunity, would have declared themselves executioner as well. It will be fascinating to see where this ends up.

LHardingDawg

November 12th, 2010
8:16 am

I have a couple of tickets to sell for the CAM fest tomorrow. I’ll take between 100K and 180K.

BigBlueCaddy

November 12th, 2010
8:16 am

Where there’s smoke, there’s gotta be BBQ.

Kosar

November 12th, 2010
8:17 am

Auburn and Cam Newton will be the winners here when the true story comes out. This has been a sad episode….but in the end the truth will come out. Stay tuned today from what comes out of Auburn.

Saint Simons

November 12th, 2010
8:18 am

(((( 34 – 31 ))))

HAHAHAHAHAHA

pceasy

November 12th, 2010
8:18 am

This is all very sad. I feel bad for all you Auburn fans.

Jeff

November 12th, 2010
8:18 am

you state that you’re not sure why the FBI is involved…they could care less about the NCAA but are involved because it’s rumored the money that might have changed hands for Cam’s recruitment was run through Cecil’s church…It’s hard not to compare this part of the story to the Marcus Dupree story told on ESPN.

BBQ Mafia

November 12th, 2010
8:19 am

@BigBlueCaddy

Nah. We left with Tubby.

I was rough hanging in there until we got our retirement out of the state of Alabama — but we made it!

Dawg_Mike

November 12th, 2010
8:19 am

Book this: Number 2 will be declared ineligible at some point. If that happens today then we have a good chance to upset the War Eagles. if it doesn’t happen we still have a good chance, just not AS good.
Go Dawgs!

SG AU FAN!!

November 12th, 2010
8:20 am

Auburn needs to do the right thing whatever that is. If there is credible evidence that Cam is not eligible we should bench him untill there are no doubts. We can beat UGA with Kodi Burns or Neal Caudle.

War Dam Eagle!!

Jim Mora Jr.

November 12th, 2010
8:21 am

Why does Cam Newton wear #2?
Because $200,000 wouldn’t fit on the jersey.

David

November 12th, 2010
8:23 am

The question I have is if Cecil ask Rodgers for 180k that night @ the Garden Hilton and Rodger told the coaches why would MSU continue to recruit Cam?

Obvious

November 12th, 2010
8:24 am

@David

They needed to gather evidence for the NCAA investigation.

SWGADAWG

November 12th, 2010
8:24 am

If any of this turns out to be true, Auburn is taking a HUGE risk. If it were my Dawgs though, I’d be saying to heck with the NCAA until there’s proof. Unfotrtunately, the NCAA has the hammer and they love to punish retroactively…..scary stuff for the War Eagles. And I’m sure those Bama fans really hate this…..

Left to Right

November 12th, 2010
8:25 am

Tony might as well work in Mike Slive’s PR department. Shameful.

Gary Spencer

November 12th, 2010
8:26 am

The NCAA complaining about Newton asking for money is the equivalent of a gangster going to the cops and saying-”hey-I was blackmailed!” The NCAA-the only game in town if you want to play pro ball-rakes in millions from these kids, allows many of them in without academic credentials, discards them without recourse if things don’t work out, pays coached millions, and wants to cry when someone wants some of the money. If Cam Newton blows a knee or his family has a serious illness, will the NCAA step in and help? Not so much. Hard for me to get worked up about this.

travy

November 12th, 2010
8:26 am

i tend to be in the where’s-there’s-smoke camp but i listened to the radio interview with bell yesterday and he didn’t sound real solid with the facts. lots of ‘i don’t remember what he said exactly’ and obvious contradictions like, if you didn’t want to hear about money, why did you talk about money?

there’s slime everywhere in college football so nothing will surprise me but this story has yet to provide anything solid you could hang on the newtons or auburn. like was said above, it’s starting to smell like duke lacrosse.

Dawg Fan

November 12th, 2010
8:27 am

The curtain is up on the whole Cam Sham. Come clean Auburn, 13 arrests at Florida, requests for money at State, did the Cheeta (pun intended) change his spots at Auburn….I think not!

@klubkd

November 12th, 2010
8:27 am

To the honorable Mr. Barnhart I have a question…why hasn’t Dan Mullen been called out for causing this to come to light? All of the “sources” in question (in some way, shape or form) represented MSU. We always say that the coaches control all aspects of their programs (even the unsavory parts that they never willingly admit to…I’m looking at you Butch Davis). I swear…hell hath no fury like an SEC coach’s scorn. SMH

Obvious

November 12th, 2010
8:27 am

@Gary Spencer

There’s a simple solution. Shut down the NFL.

JB

November 12th, 2010
8:28 am

The church was in disrepair….The church is fixed…Ole Cecil ain’t talking how the church got repaired, just say’n…..

btgt69

November 12th, 2010
8:28 am

they need bill clinton as a rep,,, nothing stuck to him,,, just ask monica

Your Tattoos are lame

November 12th, 2010
8:28 am

“War Cam Eagle” is the most retarded thing I have seen…you should be embarassed.

Seriously, what the hell are you? Tigers or an Eagle…make up your mind.

And if you take nothing else from this article AU fans…read that last sentence, because if your AD is wrong…GOD help you.

Chris

November 12th, 2010
8:28 am

You said there is not one allegation that Auburn has done anything wrong, but if the claimed phone calls turn out to be true, then Auburn IS implicated. One of the calls claimed that Cam told the MSU “recruiter” that the “money was too much”. To my eyes, that says “Auburn paid more than you”.

RxDawg

November 12th, 2010
8:30 am

This is story is about as rotten as it gets. There is no doubt now that Cam Newton was bought and paid for. I’m actually astonished Auburn is insisting on playing him after all that has come to light. You think that guy would be suiting up at UGA?

jellybeandawg

November 12th, 2010
8:30 am

I hope Cam plays because it just wouldn’t be any fun upsetting a Cam-less Auburn. Auburn should follow Tennessee’s lead in regard to these investigations by admitting to nothing and by telling the NCAA to go pound sand.

All Tattoos are lame

November 12th, 2010
8:30 am

Just Sayin’…

d

November 12th, 2010
8:31 am

If someone has recorded messages of Cecil Newton or Cam Newton asking for money I will believe Rodgers story, but he was on the same radio show Friday and gave a totally different story. So he’s a liar.

Jim

November 12th, 2010
8:32 am

More SEC Cheating – man,you area complete idiot, and yes, A-Hole.

Obvious

November 12th, 2010
8:32 am

@jellybeandawg

If they were handling it like Fulmer, then they’d have already set up some other team and snitched on them to save their own hineys.

Fleming Island Dawg

November 12th, 2010
8:32 am

SS “30-24″ Ha Ha SG “31-24″ Ha Ha

Vinson Laine

November 12th, 2010
8:33 am

Auburn 45, Georgia 17.

Even the red panties won’t be enough to save the dawgtards.

Fleming Island Dawg

November 12th, 2010
8:34 am

Judging from pictures of Cam he might be wearing the Red Panties!!!

MURPHY

November 12th, 2010
8:34 am

Beast from the east,

Auburn going to enter the stadium to the Sister Sledge song: We are Family !

All are picking the Gators to win-All say Carolina not ready to take the step of Champions yet.I disagree-Spurrier and the boys ready to win the East.Should be a very entertaining contest.

shane

November 12th, 2010
8:35 am

Bill Bell, a prominent MSU booster, has turned over tape of Rogers requesting money on behalf of the Newton Family. Only going to get worse for Auburn.

Cam Corleone

November 12th, 2010
8:36 am

If Rogers approached Bond about Newton at the Egg Bowl in November, why did Miss. State continue to recruit him through January?

If Rogers approached Bond about money, why didn’t the conversation about money stop there? If you believe these other assistants and boosters at Miss. State, conversations about money continued long after the alleged Bond/Rogers conversation in November, and involved more people than Bond and Rogers. If Miss. State thought this was all so wrong, why didn’t they nip it in the bud right there and then when Bond was approached by Rogers?

Miss State reported this in January, long after the initial Egg Bowl conversation. When the SEC kicked it back to them for more info, Miss State sat on it for 6 months. Why? Did they then realize that they hadn’t gotten their stories straight and realize their hands weren’t exactly clean in all of this? Why were Miss. State bagman boosters and recruiters still having conversations with the Newton family about money long after the alleged Bond/Rogers conversation?

When Miss State finally went back in July to the NCAA and SEC with further information, why wasn’t all of the info revealed that is supposedly out there now?

Oklahoma said they were never approached about cash for Cam. Auburn hasn’t said a word about cash for Cam. It’s only Miss State who keeps alleging this cash for Cam thing.

Unless a smoking gun audiotape comes out incriminating either of the Newtons, nothing can be done about this. Unless there are smoking gun financial records that show Papa Newton’s church got cash, nothing can be done about this. Miss State simply doesn’t have enough credibility in this matter to just go by their say so. As it stands right now, Miss State just looks like a jilted lover that needs to clean up its own backyard.

heyberto

November 12th, 2010
8:37 am

This is just crazy. If Auburn didn’t pay to play and didn’t know about it, then I feel sorry for them… but if this is true, someone over there had to know, even if its just Auburn boosters and not coaches or the institution itself. Personlly, I don’t want the easy way out. I want to see how the Dawgs do against Cam Newton, and it looks like that’s what we’ll get.

Deon Figures

November 12th, 2010
8:37 am

Mr. Obvious just re-inforces his nickname once again.

MURPHY

November 12th, 2010
8:37 am

shane,

Were did you hear that?

Dolly Parton

November 12th, 2010
8:38 am

Leave Kenny Rogers Alone!!!

Gatorrrrrs

November 12th, 2010
8:38 am

RxDawg REALLY There is no doubt now that Cam Newton was bought and paid for. No my man the only thing that there is no doubt about is that your Dawg SUCK!!!!!!!

Dirty Harry

November 12th, 2010
8:39 am

The cheating punks at Auburn are going down this weekend!

@klubkd

November 12th, 2010
8:39 am

RxDAWG…If Uga was 10-0 an had a chance to play for the national championship, you guys would suit up Newton, Hitler and Beelzebulb…and you all would defend starting all three. Remember, damn near everyone one the Dawgs’ message boards wanted AJ Green to play; even after finding out that he violated NCAA rules. Remember??? That was only 2 months ago…

Spike

November 12th, 2010
8:39 am

The more you stir it, the more it stinks.

LAdawg

November 12th, 2010
8:40 am

Bank statements will tell the story. Didn’t A.J.’s suspension happen because the NCAA was investigating an agent’s party, of which there was no guilt, but found the $1000 in his bank records from the sell of the jersey? The NCAA nor the SEC has subpeana power, thus the involvement of the FBI. If the money was paid, it will be found; from whom to whom.

hssjsnBama

November 12th, 2010
8:40 am

What about the al qaeda ties they found? :)

Me and you and a Dawg Named Belue

November 12th, 2010
8:40 am

Hey More SEC Cheating,

You’re probably right. Colorado could win the SEC Least- assuming they played all their games at home and had their opponents fumble away the win at the very end. Of course that means they would easily win the ACC as well because we know what happens when a team from the sec plays a teamfrom the ACC. Oh and no one from the other conferences ever does anything shady.

I’m sure Auburn has done nothing wrong here. I bet Cecil just changed his mind about the money cause he just thought Auburn was just a real swell school.

DawginLex

November 12th, 2010
8:40 am

This is the same Miss St coaching staff that many folks want Greg M to hire after he fires Richt?

shane

November 12th, 2010
8:40 am

Murphy,

It’s been reported on several sites. I saw it on rollbamaroll.com

Cam Corleone

November 12th, 2010
8:41 am

The irony in all of this is that if cash was received, it was used to keep a church for a community. Not exactly the worst use of dirty money

m

November 12th, 2010
8:41 am

The recruitment of Cam Newton is rotten to the core.

The sec is rotten to the core.

Tony’s biased reporting is rotten to the core.

The BS-bcs is rotten to the core.

Tony’s defense of the BS-bcs is rotten to the core.

The rotten to the core sec should be renamed the Southern Penal League and all the players and coaches should have to wear striped uniforms.

We need a 16 team playoff. We need it now.

Bobby Lowder

November 12th, 2010
8:41 am

Who is Cam Newton?

shane

November 12th, 2010
8:42 am

Murphy,

Here you go. It’s everywhere now.
Updated Newton story: http://es.pn/bTPQ9Q MSU booster/former player Bill Bell confirms to ESPN.com that Cecil Newton was seeking cash.
about 11 hours ago via web

pceasy

November 12th, 2010
8:42 am

Hey Auburn that’s not fair. A pro QB? C’mon.

boots

November 12th, 2010
8:42 am

Auburn has the choice: do what is right, and sit him, or roll the dice and go all-in, hoping you play for the NC and nothing comes of this. Tough decision. I know what they SHOULD do, but if it were UGA, I would say “no way” and play him. However, we did that with AJ Green, and it likely cost us several loses this year.

GWJ

November 12th, 2010
8:42 am

Slive and Company don’t look good at this point… a possible rare misstep?

JC

November 12th, 2010
8:43 am

I hope Cam Newton plays. Win or lose, I would rather play against the team at full strength. That’s the way any true competitor looks at the world. I can’t understand why anyone would hope otherwise.

Ryno

November 12th, 2010
8:43 am

FBI hates money laundering through churches.

SEC can drag their feet until Auburn loses a chance at the NC game. If Auburn makes it, things get dicey for the league’s PR department. You don’t punish the league’s team with the best chance at the big game..see Alabama or Florida last season.

Slive is crossing his fingers and toes hoping Auburn loses a game or two so this hubbub will subside.

Barkin'Dog

November 12th, 2010
8:45 am

This whole story smacks of a famous joke…
A guy asks a girl if she’d go to bed with him for $10,000. She said, “let’s go.”
When he offered $100, she shouted, “What kind of girl do you think I am?”
He answered, “We’ve already established that. Now we’re just negotiating the price.”

Wayne Hall

November 12th, 2010
8:45 am

What is a church building construction project in Newnan, Georgia?

Dawg_Mike

November 12th, 2010
8:45 am

Let’s do this:
Let’s hijack Tony’s blog and talk about the damn GAMES being played tomorrow

Who ya got???

SC over UF…not this time. It’s November and SC tanks in November.
The U over GT
Rocky Flop over Ole Missy
VT over UNC
OH ST over Penn ST
Baylor over Texas A & M
FSU over Clempson

and……Dare I say the MSU bulldogs over the Tide…..

Lets talk some football insted of the same tired story over and over and over…I am sick of it!!!!

Dawgtavius

November 12th, 2010
8:46 am

Kenny Rogers be a lie. Everbody know he plastic surgery were a mess and make him look like a clown. Then he try to sell chicken and that didn’t work either. Now the FBI say he took money from Auburn alum to fix up the church. I know some peoples like that song Lucille but I never did. He a lie and I hope the FBI get him for such a lame song.

MURPHY

November 12th, 2010
8:46 am

shane,

This is getting ugly fast ! The remark Tony made: “Alot could happen between now and 3:30 tommorrow” Makes me wonder if maybe a judement concerning Cam’s eligibility will be called into question and maybe he sits?

DawgPound

November 12th, 2010
8:46 am

There is a fourth possible explanation for why MS State did not bring all the information to the table: they gave Auburn just enough rope to hang themselves, while holding back on the smoking gun.

RxDawg

November 12th, 2010
8:47 am

@klubkd, I doubt that. UGA was undfeated and did have a chance to play for every championship, and we sat AJ. At first I thought this was a smear campaign too, but it’s pretty obvious now that Cam’s recruiting was done in a way that doesn’t go along with the NCAA rules.

A blogger said it best yesterday. If you had a son doing as well as Cam Newton has been doing. Some turd comes out and makes these allegations against your son, you and your family. There wouldn’t be a mountain top high enough for Cecil to pronounce his innocence. But guess what? He’s not. He’s clamed up and gotten a lawyer. It’s going to be hard for him to hide that dirty laundry money from the FBI.

One other thing, make no mistake I’m not happy about this. I have no love for Auburn, but this is bigger then them and the Newton family. This is a dark dark black eye on all of us.

The Alpha Male

November 12th, 2010
8:47 am

War Cam Eagle???? Sounds more like War SCAM Eagle to me….

shane

November 12th, 2010
8:47 am

Based on comments from the NCAA once any player or anyone associated with player seeks pay for play, they are ineligible. No matter which University they were seeking money from.

Cam Corleone

November 12th, 2010
8:48 am

The SEC should boot Miss State. They never win anyway, don’t bring any money to the table (just under the table to kids and their families), and now Miss State is costing them money and their marketing brand. Get rid of that cowbell ringing, 40,000 seat stadium having podunk blight on the conference and bring in someone worthy like Texas.

[...] There are some critical decisions to be made by the SEC and Auburn regarding Cam Newton. (AJC) [...]

shane

November 12th, 2010
8:49 am

Murphy,

If Auburn is smart they sit him. If the NCAA informs Auburn there is evidence of pay for play and they as aUniversity chooses to play him, then Look Out! Auburn will then be on the hook.

T-Bone

November 12th, 2010
8:49 am

Tony,

If I’m right, no money was ever paid. So all we have is a greedy dad trying–unsuccessfully, however–to sell his son’s athletic ability to the highest bidder.

Sure this is a big story, but it shouldn’t overshadow the rest of college football. The more you feed this story, the more it takes on a life of its own. Just leave it alone and give us some other storylines. At least give us the Friday Forecast.

Tramp Stamp

November 12th, 2010
8:49 am

Cam will lead Auburn to a glorious victory againt the smelly dawgs.

MIke

November 12th, 2010
8:50 am

It’s time for both Newtons to be men and be accountable for their actions and come clean. Get it over with, already.

Jimmy Rane

November 12th, 2010
8:51 am

What is YellaWood?

Don

November 12th, 2010
8:53 am

Congrats Tony – finally some good reporting on this and I will stay tuned so you ‘da man. LMAO last night watching Heath Evans on ESPN talking about all that Auburn man “integrity” bull crap – is there an “Auburn man” on the coaching staff at Auburn to make sure there is some integrity? Looks like it is too late to save Auburn – hope the SEC office has a team line up to replace there sorry asses cause they are “gone pecans”. Gene Chizik will just fly off and leave the ashes

MURPHY

November 12th, 2010
8:54 am

shane,

I dont know? I see Auburn rolling the dice.Why not play him.They will already forfiet 10 games.what’s 2 more?

shane

November 12th, 2010
8:55 am

Murphy,

Yeah I can see that point, but they will be risking serious sanctions down the line.

Chris

November 12th, 2010
8:56 am

Who asks for “between $100K and $180K” That just doesn’t ring true to me. If it was $100K to $200K, it would make more sense. I suspect this Bill Bell guy may be tailoring his story to match the others.

Second point. Why does everyone think the Florida grades information had to come from a coach or administrator? If you are on the team with Cam, and he gets suspended for cheating, you’re probably going to know the details. And you might tell one or two friends about it. So, there doesn’t have to be some nefarious plot by Urban Meyer. It could be any ex-player, etc.

kiffinisatosser

November 12th, 2010
8:56 am

I had no idea that Kenny Rogers was an agent as well!

You gotta know when to hold em, know when to fold em.

Obvious

November 12th, 2010
8:56 am

You’re right MURPHY. It’s ten games too late in the season to bench him now. Let him play.

CR

November 12th, 2010
8:56 am

Anyone believing Auburn has clean hands in this double-wide dowop is probably shoving crack up their rear. And anyone believing Ms State wasn’t outbid and didn’t developed a bad case of the red arse has been eating too many Starkville mud pies. And to the church members who worship at the alter of Newton, don’t forget to give thanks to Cam for the gifts you have or are about to receive.

DawginLex

November 12th, 2010
8:56 am

No more Cam talk!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Everyone submit their picks on this blog now!

Auburn 28 UGA 24
Alabama 20 MSU 17
SC 28 florida 27
GT 38 Miami 35
FSU 42 Clemson 37
UNC 27 VT 24
UT 29 Ole Miss 28
OSU 35 PSU 21

dawghuff

November 12th, 2010
8:56 am

It all hinges in the Church.

I don’t think any of us doubt for one minute that Cam’s father is a scum bag just like his son who stole a lap top and somehow avoided conviction for being the thief he is.

The boy wasn’t taught morals by his religious father, nothing new there, Christians are notorious for being of low moral character, just ask Eddie Long and remind yourselves of the long list of “ministers” who broke the law.

The boy has low morals, his dad had low morals, the church is the key, how did it suddenly become repaired. There lies the smoking gun and the reason Cecil is now laying low.

jumbeauxtiger

November 12th, 2010
8:57 am

Fearless Friday Forecast:

Ga Tech 34 Miami 31
FSU 24 Clemson 17
Florida 20 SC 13
Alabama 30 Ms State 13
UNC 24 Va Tech 20
UT 24 Ole Miss 23
Texas 24 Ok St 21
Oregon 44 Cal 17
UK 34 Vandy 14

And….

Auburn 34 UGA 27 (With Cam)
or
UGA 27 Auburn 16 (Without Cam)

Cecil Newton is a man of God

November 12th, 2010
8:57 am

He would be incapable of such shenanigans. Now pass the plate, b*tch.

MURPHY

November 12th, 2010
8:57 am

shane,

I think AU is in to deep already. No way out of this.

Spike

November 12th, 2010
8:58 am

I love watching these AU goobers sweat it out!

shane

November 12th, 2010
8:58 am

Kenny Rogers Roasters
Toasting Auburn Since December 2009!

Will be selling in T-Town come Iron Bowl Week.

Gene Chizik

November 12th, 2010
8:59 am

Malzone!! We got to burn that receipt from the preacher and we gotta burn it now!

shane

November 12th, 2010
8:59 am

Murphy,

I agree with you. They’re toast.

ATL is TigerTown

November 12th, 2010
9:00 am

If Cam were an average QB playing for a 5 and 5 team in a weak division, non of this would even make the news. This whole issue is about sour grapes, creating a distraction and making news. When your house is clean, or you have some credible evidence, Kenny Rogers doesn’t count, come see me. Otherwise, you have zero info of interest.

MURPHY

November 12th, 2010
9:00 am

jumbeauxtiger,

Carolina over UF 28-27
Okie St over Texas 35-24
UGA ??? As a Dawg fan-I aint touching this deal. All I can say is Go Dawgs.

Cecil Newton is a man of God

November 12th, 2010
9:01 am

I will lead ye through the shadow of valley of eligibility.

Obvious

November 12th, 2010
9:02 am

@ATL is TigerTown

You left out the WAR CAM EAGLE!!!

Otherwise… Perfect!

@klubkd

November 12th, 2010
9:02 am

RxDawg…valid points and I whole-heartedly agree with your sentiments except for one thing. When AJ was shut down, it was originally believed it would be for the first game (against a scrub, by the way) and he’d suit up against Carolina. We originally thought his investigation was about the Miami trip, which he denied and we all believed. Given those circumstances, sitting AJ was a no-brainer…you didn’t need him. Auburn has possibly played all year with an ineligible player. If he’s guilty then sitting him wouldn’t save the season.

RxDawg you’re a good dude…enjoyed the intelligent conversation and debate.

Felix the Cat

November 12th, 2010
9:02 am

if it looks like poop, smells like poop, feels like poop, tastes like poop….well its probably poop..

Hal

November 12th, 2010
9:03 am

I hope Auburn and Cam Newton are good. But you have to ask yourself “What kind of history does Auburn have when it comes to NCAA vilolations? We all know the answer to that. Would Auburn take a short cut to close the gap with their biggest rival Alabama ? Would they? I hope not because it makes college football look bad.

justthefacts

November 12th, 2010
9:03 am

@d 8:31…Rodgers may have told a lie last week? But this week the FBI starts getting involved.Do you get it? The FBI is involved and people are NOT going to lie now for anybody.There is no smoke here,the kitchen is on fire and folks are coming clean.Do you really think these guys are going to lie to the feds???

layinlow

November 12th, 2010
9:04 am

Why can’t you also do the fearless friday forecast? lol. Some of the other writers have been known to sometimes churn out 3 blogs in one day. So basically you’re saying that because you had to write on the newton saga there is no way you can take 10 minutes to do the friday forecast. ok.

Auburn | MrSEC.com

November 12th, 2010
9:05 am

[...] this point.”3.  Tony Barnhart of The Atlanta Journal-Constitution writes this morning that the Newton story is reaching critical mass.4.  Kevin Scarbinsky of The Birmingham News reports that “two people with extensive [...]

Cecil Newton is a man of God

November 12th, 2010
9:05 am

Dear Aubie bretheren and sisteren, fear no probation for the cash was passed straight from a malt liquor bag into our collection plate…untraceable. My church is a money launderer’s dream…so long as the unnamed benefactor (ahem…coughing lowder) seeks no deductibility.

Shug

November 12th, 2010
9:05 am

What happened to the good ole days when we just got a player a hooker?

St. Bernard

November 12th, 2010
9:07 am

Makes selling a jersey seem irrelevant. But that jersey cost the team some games, and could cost the coaches their jobs.

Spike

November 12th, 2010
9:08 am

Pat Dye called and said Georgia is not man enough to beat AU.

Marcus Dupree

November 12th, 2010
9:08 am

Dern, I ain’t aksed fo enuf money. Next time…byeeeatch.

Jim

November 12th, 2010
9:08 am

This is debacle is why you don’t fire your coaches. If Miss. St., Auburn, (and, to some extent, Florida) continue to spend their time wrapped up or chiming in on this debacle, don’t you want a solid foundation to seize the opportunities?

TigerMikie

November 12th, 2010
9:09 am

This looks a lot like Auburn’s last stand. “General Custer, its awful quiet.”

Little Awful Annie

November 12th, 2010
9:09 am

The good book says, “judge not unless you be Cam Newton”.

Marcus Dupree

November 12th, 2010
9:09 am

Evabody know pat Dye too damn dum to use no telephone.

SEC Observer

November 12th, 2010
9:10 am

Where are the Auburn posters?

Ralph

November 12th, 2010
9:10 am

Barnhart, what a jerk you are. You are literally begging that Newton not play against thUGA.

According to the interpretation you like best – if somebody/anybody (Rogers?) makes a solicitation offer, valid or not, no matter whether it is accepted or not causes a player to lose eligibility. Guilty until proven innocent will have thousands of such “solicitation” claims from competitive team boosters to screw up players chances of playing. Is this what you are doing?

Cecil Newton is a man of God

November 12th, 2010
9:11 am

Plausibile deniability…Cam has it because he has no idea what I did in his name. It’s the perfect plan. Don’t ask; don’t tell. Just go where I tell you to go.

[...] Re: Latest Bama News 11/11/12 Latest on Cam. Cameron Newton story reaching critical mass Cameron Newton story reaching critical mass | Mr. College Football [...]

KT

November 12th, 2010
9:12 am

Since the story broke, everyone assumes that Auburn and the Newtons are guilty, even though there’s no proof of that. People also continue to believe that Ken Rogers is honest (WTH?) and that MSU has clean hands. Just for fun, let’s assume that the Newtons are decent people who happen to be innocent: Cam wanted to go to MS State, so he and his father go for a visit in November of 2009. While there, Cecil meets Ken Rogers (who will probably change his story again today) and they have a conversation that most likely included the fact that Cam was also planning visits to OU and AU. What if Ken Rogers brought up the money first and asked Cecil how much it would take to get Cam to commit to MSU? Then he picked up the phone to call Bell to prove to Cecil that he could get the money? (Side note: Rogers says he was ‘referred’ to Bell. By whom?) Maybe Cecil didn’t want any part of that, and that’s how Cam ended up at Auburn. We already know from the SEC that MSU did NOT report any of these conversations to the SEC. Why not? Could it be because they made the cash offer to Cecil, not the other way around? Either way, MSU is now implicated in a whole pantload of wrongdoing. Random recruiters, the phone call to Bell to secure the money, the conversation between Rogers and Bond, etc. And still…..there’s no proof that Auburn and the Newtons have done anything wrong.

sunny purdue

November 12th, 2010
9:13 am

This is not a fast moving story. It’s glacial in its speed. There is nothing new for the past week. We have been hearing about pay for play without any proof since the story first broke. Frankly, it’s getting boring. Please get back to us when there is some real news.

A lawyer

November 12th, 2010
9:14 am

Dear putzes (putzi??). innocent until proven guilty is not a bedrock principle of American jurisprudence. It is a trope for uneducated. The only standard is guilty “beyond a reasonable doubt”. You Aubies need to find another aphorism.

Sister Mary Shirley

November 12th, 2010
9:16 am

Cam Newton’s doing the Lords work! He put a roof over baby Jesus head. The Lord said, let all my flock be frocked and Cam bought them new clothes, Cam is doing the Lords work.

JB

November 12th, 2010
9:16 am

Wonder what Auburn would do Saturday, let’s say if he was the Starting left Guard, Just asking?

3rdN8

November 12th, 2010
9:16 am

This is a sad situation for Auburn. Whatever comes out now in this investigation will put a damper on what has been an outstanding season. I hope this is cleared up, and soon. I want to see Auburn’s best against Bama’s best in Bryant-Denny.

The thing that puzzles me is the response (or lack thereof) by the SEC office. Why not fully disclose the information they received in January, and the info received in July. If the reports are somewhat accurate, it would appear that MSU, and AU acted within the rules (although MSU is starting to look a bit iffy). But like it is, the SEC office has left two of its’ institutions twisting in the wind.

Les

November 12th, 2010
9:16 am

None of this Cam Newton situation would be in the news if Auburn was not BCS ranked #2 and was having a mediocre season. If Auburn has a three or four loss season at this point, no one would be saying anything about Cam’s recruiting.

Dogfish

November 12th, 2010
9:17 am

@Klubkd…
But we did’nt suit up AJ because there we’re issues. That decision cost UGA some victories.
I have no doubt Auburn’s coaching staff followed the rules and are not involved, but If you think some booster did’nt pay for Cam to sign with Auburn, you have your head way too deep in the sand. You think Cam’s dad hired a lawyer because he’s innocent and has nothing to hide?? Get real.

JB

November 12th, 2010
9:18 am

Auburn fans need to be nervous….To may people “trying” to talk about this without blowing it open…….If Cam said, I’m going to Auburn because the money’s to good, This is gonna be bad.

War Lowder Eagle

November 12th, 2010
9:18 am

If Coach Dye were in charge, none of this would have happened!

And we would be 5-5.

TommyJack

November 12th, 2010
9:20 am

Sounds like a bammer plot to me.

JB

November 12th, 2010
9:21 am

Well, I’m a Georgia fan and maybe proud today to be 5-5…..if you get my drift………

SteveW

November 12th, 2010
9:21 am

I personally think this mess will cost UGA any chance we had of winning this game:

1) If Cam plays, he’s gonna be mad, and out to show how good he is to everybody. He will put forth the extra effort.

2) If he sits, it will rally the troops on the AU team, and they’ll play like maniacs to save their season and win one for Cam.

Either way, bad news for us Dawg fans.

dawghuff

November 12th, 2010
9:21 am

The biggest winner of this deal because the Newton’s are obviously scum? LSU will now be considered undefeated, believe me… this story isn’t going away, the Newton’s have solicited money. Cam will be illegible before the season is over and LSU will play in the title game…

Noproof?

November 12th, 2010
9:21 am

How many names do you need? Sure,all of these guys are lying and making their own school,THEIR OWN SCHOOL look bad just to get ole Auburn.Get a clue folks this is dirty and true!

Dog in TN

November 12th, 2010
9:21 am

This is just sad. As are the inane comments from Dawgs, Gators, etc.

3rdN8

November 12th, 2010
9:22 am

Here’s a question(s). What if someone, or a group of someones (unrelated in any official capacity to a university) donated money directly to a struggling church in Georgia? How could anyone “prove” this donation was related in any way to a football player? Also, it would be tax deductible.

Cecil Newton may be the smartest guy in the room.

War Lowder Eagle

November 12th, 2010
9:22 am

You dags don’t need to worry about it. No matter what you will not win. This is a state of alabama issue.

dap01

November 12th, 2010
9:22 am

I am amazed at Auburns lack of leadership in this whole issue. Either they are hiding something or they are being foolish.

JB

November 12th, 2010
9:23 am

I wonder what the “mood” will be in that Stadium Saturday……I know the students won’t care, they are clueless about all this, but the Alum?

ol' balls coach

November 12th, 2010
9:23 am

C’mon, I wouldn’t have lived and played in Starkville for a million $.

SteveW

November 12th, 2010
9:23 am

Now if Willie kidnaps his son and flees to Ecuodar or somewhere with the cash, that may be a bizzare enough scenario to help the Dawgs. Don’t see that happening however….

JB

November 12th, 2010
9:24 am

good good point 3rdn8……

Cam Newton is a man of God

November 12th, 2010
9:25 am

That’s right. You cannot find the money. These churches receive anaonymous donatons all the time. You should start one yourself. The First Church of Cameron Newton has certainly earned well.

Burma Shave

November 12th, 2010
9:27 am

Cam plays tomorrow

And Auburn will win

Georgia will lose

Amid the boos.

Burma shave

Cecil Newton is a man of God

November 12th, 2010
9:27 am

Hey, you stole my handle…there is only one man of God inthe Newton household!

JB

November 12th, 2010
9:27 am

I betting that’s what happened….Ole Cecil told them to give the money to the church, and nobody gets hurt, and Cam will be a Tiger……..clever………Not ties to the coach’s or the school….

Tucker

November 12th, 2010
9:27 am

What goes on between “unofficial” recruiters, boosters, and prospects and their families is a Netherworld that few BCS programs want explored. The NCAA has attempted feverishly to legislate curbs on these activities, but in effect has only driven the “business” farther underground. The concept of “student-athlete” is deeply flawed in its present incarnation. The NCAA is nearing the point of having to recreate that concept or face the reality of semi-amateur athletics on college campuses with little or no emphasis on the student aspect. One has to wonder where an “anything goes” approach would lead. Would it be that much worse than what we already have?

Dooley Dawg

November 12th, 2010
9:27 am

From the looks of Cecil Newton’s church in Newnan, they did not get their moneys worth if the story is true… maybe the money literally went “through’ the church… whatever… Go Dawgs! We can take them on with or without Cam!

Cecil Newton is a man of God

November 12th, 2010
9:28 am

And who pays Cecil’s salary? Why, the church of course!

pk

November 12th, 2010
9:28 am

Tony, I am dissappointed with you on this one. I believe you are one of the more thorough and trustworthy sources for news, but you have failed me on this one. How come you do not mention anything about who Kenny Rogers is, and the fact that he is named in 15 counts of fraudulent violations by the NFLPA for misrepresenting himself to players and others. This is actual evidence, unlike most of this other stuff which is mostly rumor and he-said-she-said. Check it out (Nov. 5th filed by NFLPA against Ian Greengross, cites his runner Kenny Rogers in I think 15 of the violations-this is evidence that Kenny ROgers is a liar) Do a story on this and redeem yourself as a thorough journalist for me please!

OkefenokeeDawg

November 12th, 2010
9:28 am

Oh, I am sure “Auburn” hasn’t paid Cam or Cecil anything. Nobody is stupid enough to write or deposit a check.

But act as if it’s inconceivable that Auburn boosters would pay Cam is funny. Former head coach Terry Bowden said Auburn boosters paid recruits $12,000 to $15,000 to sign scholarships with Auburn rountinely in the 90’s, even as Auburn was on probation at the time. Bowden says he ended the practice when he became coach.

We’re not talking about Joe Pa and Penn State here. Auburn has on probation for major infractions 7 times.

Add 20 years worth of inflation and pay raises and such, $180,000 probably wasn’t all that out of line . . .

3rdN8

November 12th, 2010
9:28 am

@ Cecil Newton is a man of God

Bingo!!

Lanier Dawg

November 12th, 2010
9:29 am

Chris

November 12th, 2010
8:56 am

Who asks for “between $100K and $180K” That just doesn’t ring true to me. If it was $100K to $200K, it would make more sense. I suspect this Bill Bell guy may be tailoring his story to match the others.

Basically someone who has between $100K – $180K worth of repairs to be made to his church.

Derek Dooley, the lesser Dooley

November 12th, 2010
9:29 am

I wish we hadn’t wasted all our cash on Bryce Bron.

JC65

November 12th, 2010
9:29 am

Why wouldn’t Au continue to play Cam? He has played 10 games already. If they have any chance of winning the SEC or national champ. it will be w/Cam.

Naomi

November 12th, 2010
9:30 am

Cam didn’t do a dang thing, and his daddy didn’t do a dang thing. This is all Miss State, they want to rurn Auburn, they want to smear Auburn, they want to win the west. They don’t have enough since to know they will be found out, I hope they go to jail.

JB

November 12th, 2010
9:30 am

I thought I read where the NCAA asked and did look at the church records…..That doesn’t mean anything though…….the “CASH” may have never seen the actual church, ole Cecil might have told them , I’ll make sure the Lord’s work is done with it…..Like they care …..

Norcross

November 12th, 2010
9:31 am

Auburn will play Cam until forced to bench him. The reason? If they are guilty, they will forfeit all of their wins this year anyway. So, benching him now would be stupid. If you have to forfeit the first 10 games because of playing an ineligible player, then what do the last 2 or 4 games matter?

It sounds like Auburn knowingly or unknowingly used a booster to pay for Cam. It wouldn’t be the first time that this has happened in the SEC. Let’s just hope that it was unknowingly…

It’s really too bad, but don’t worry too much – Cam won’t win the Heisman, but he’s going to the pros (probably next year) and will make Millions and Millions in the NFL.

JB

November 12th, 2010
9:32 am

Naomi, dear, that s/b ” sense” not since……..

Cecil Newtonis a man of God

November 12th, 2010
9:32 am

How can anyone impugn the credibility of someone who is a beloved singer and chicken magnate? What is this world comong to?

SteveW

November 12th, 2010
9:32 am

Colorado is an example of a Boise St. coach outside of the MWC…The same would happen to Boise if it played in a real conference, say the SEC.

The Auburn crowd will be raucous defending their War Eagles. Bad scenario for UGA. The crowd will not let Auburn lose. I hope I’m wrong….

JB

November 12th, 2010
9:32 am

Good post Norcross…..

schmeckdawg

November 12th, 2010
9:33 am

Hey Mr. College Football, who does your proof reading? Some of your grammar is embarrassing! You make the Bulldawg Nation look bad!!!!

3rdN8

November 12th, 2010
9:33 am

“she’s leaving now, because I just heard, the slammin’ of a door….”

Cecil Newton is a man of God

November 12th, 2010
9:33 am

Boise State would win the SEC East this year. Don’t kid yourself!

Cecil Newton is a man of God

November 12th, 2010
9:35 am

Oh Caaaaaamron, don’t take your love to Barnnn.

BAMA dude

November 12th, 2010
9:35 am

The crowd will not let Auburn lose. I hope I’m wrong….Steve W

That ranks among the silliest comments I’ve ever seen.

3rdN8

November 12th, 2010
9:36 am

@Norcross

the only flaw in your argument is: if enough things came to light to warrant AU benching Newton, and they didn’t….the ramifications would be far worse than forfeiting games played in 2010.

JB

November 12th, 2010
9:36 am

We’ll have Bama, LSU, and probably Miss St cheering their a$$ off for us tomorrow,,,,,Go Dawgs….

3rdN8

November 12th, 2010
9:37 am

you forgot the “if I could move I’d get my gun….” line.

Marcus Dupree

November 12th, 2010
9:37 am

There is more than one way to become a legend!

JB

November 12th, 2010
9:37 am

Wonder who the bag man was ?

NoGaGator

November 12th, 2010
9:37 am

The start of this whole bizarre saga came from MSU boosters/supporters and it continues to grow. It appears obvious that they were peeved after Cecil Newton decided that Cam would go to Auburn. They reported it early to SEC office and SEC sat on it. MSU claims they’re too busy to follow up with details to SEC at the time which is a crock. Who referred Rogers to have Cecil talk with Bell? Find that out and their you will find rationale for why MSU dragged their feet for 6 mo on providing details. Sounds like they have a booster network to grease palms.

There’s still no allegations about anything improper vis-a-vis Newtons and AU but FBI’s involved and probably looking at every $ they can find on the good “rev”.

I hope Newton plays this weekend. If he has a great game with all of this happening, you have to give him props.

Regardless, this is all too compelling for sports fans – who needs TV drams or soaps with this?

Sorry for the AU supporters to have to deal with this. Looks like Damon Evans and the red panties has definitely been topped.

Scott

November 12th, 2010
9:38 am

An unspeakable human tragedy………Barnhardt, you are such a blowhard fool

Dawgtavius

November 12th, 2010
9:39 am

Eddie Munster be in rehab for skrearin’ peoples. Kenny Rogers need to go for lame songs and for being a lie.

Cecil Newton is a man of God

November 12th, 2010
9:39 am

As a man of God, Cecil would not condone the murder of an unfaithful wife such as Ruby. Consequently, he would never support Kenny Rogers. Ergo, this story is a lie.

BAMA dude

November 12th, 2010
9:40 am

3rdN8

November 12th, 2010
9:22 am
Here’s a question(s). What if someone, or a group of someones (unrelated in any official capacity to a university) donated money directly to a struggling church in Georgia? How could anyone “prove” this donation was related in any way to a football player? Also, it would be tax deductible.

Cecil Newton may be the smartest guy in the room.

Not even close. Churches get busted for dirty donations all the time. This is more than likely why the FBI is involved. Old Cecil may have more at stake here than just Cam’s eligibilty- he could end up in prison. His butt(literally) may be on the line.

3rdN8

November 12th, 2010
9:40 am

since we’re getting into acronyms….Please refer to your programs; the F.B.I. will be followed next by the I.R.S., and then our final act, the D.O.J.

BAMA dude

November 12th, 2010
9:41 am

NoGaGator, if Missy State has a booster network set up they must not pay very well. They usually suck.

3rdN8

November 12th, 2010
9:41 am

@ Cecil Newton is a man of God

You’re right. I’m so ashamed.

lovelyliz

November 12th, 2010
9:42 am

Attempted character assassination of Cam Newton continues
That’s what this is. There’s no other way to describe it. Even if the latest allegations against Cam Newton are true, they add up to a serious attempt at character assassination.

In 26 years in this business, I’ve never seen anything like it.

Cecil Newton is a man of God

November 12th, 2010
9:42 am

MNC is the only acronymn we care about at Auburn. There is always something other than what transpires on the field that keeps it just beyond our reach. It is enough to make me want to pay some players!

BAMA dude

November 12th, 2010
9:43 am

JB

November 12th, 2010
9:36 am
We’ll have Bama, LSU, and probably Miss St cheering their a$$ off for us tomorrow,,,,,Go Dawgs….

Now THAT’S an accurate comment. If UGA wins then Bama is only a LSU loss at Arky from controlling their own SEC destiny again.

lovelyliz

November 12th, 2010
9:43 am

The Times adds that Rogers shares a joint banking account with NFL agent Ian Greengross under the name “Greengross Athletic Management Enterprises,” and notes that he told ESPNChicago.com that he “specializes in transfers and players who have been kicked out of school.” Rogers is being investigated by the NFL Players A…ssociation for posing as an NFLPA employee.
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Cecil Newton is a man of God

November 12th, 2010
9:43 am

Character assasination? Try, suicide sweetheart.

Same As It Ever Was...

November 12th, 2010
9:43 am

WOW!

I mean, WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW !!!!

Tony said, quote:

“Folks, I’ve been covering this league a long time but it looks like were are definitely in some uncharted waters here.”

Uncharted waters?? Are you kiddin me ??????????

THIS is STANDARD PRACTICE…in the SEC.

This is how it’s ALLLLLLLLLLLLL-WAYS been done in the SEC.

There is NO level of corruption that the SEC has not ALREADY sunk to.

Man, the world must have tilted off its axis if SEC Super-Homer
Tony Barnhart has somehow found himself in “uncharted waters.”

3rdN8

November 12th, 2010
9:44 am

@ BAMA dude

Would really need proof on that one. I can’t recall any churches being busted for dirty donations.

Please refer to the Richard Scrushy case.

Nate

November 12th, 2010
9:44 am

@shane:
You’re a moron. No where in that rollbamaroll article does it say that. The article openly states that the author speculates that with today’s technology, there could be some tapes out there. And IF THERE ARE (which he’s not saying there are) that Bill Bell would be in the best position to have those tapes. Can you not read or are you just trying to stir the pot? Even if tapes later come out, it in no way changes the fact that the article you cite says nothing of the sort.

lovelyliz

November 12th, 2010
9:44 am

This isn’t the first time that Pete Thamel has gone public with a story of questionable substance ended up making Auburn look bad. He did a piece about courses at the school being a means for football players to maintain their grades while supposedly doing little or no work. story, published 2006, implied that Auburn was committing academic fraud.

Thamel glazed over the fact that the courses in question, given in the Sociology department, were mostly taken by non-athletes. The NCAA showed up, sniffed around, and left. Unlike the textbook selling scandal at Alabama, there wasn’t any wrongdoing uncovered related to the directed-reading courses.

Cecil Newton is a man of God

November 12th, 2010
9:46 am

The thing that I know is that the TSA will never do a rectal cavity search on a man of God. That is the loophole! (no pun intended).

WesDawg

November 12th, 2010
9:46 am

Auburn has been caught with it’s hand in the cookie jar, Oreo crumbs around their mouth and yet continues to be defiant. Somebody is gonna get consequences for this.

RxDawg

November 12th, 2010
9:46 am

@klubkd, back atcha. Also good points, the scenarios were a little different with AJ at the time and Cam/Auburn now. Still… knowing UGA and how conservative they are with their decesions/disciplines/actions etc. I just can’t see them playing a player under this much national scruitiny. But take a look at Auburn’s history. Those guys aren’t exactly squeaky clean. Not that everyone else is, but still Auburn has a history of “keeping it down low”. Those guys like to win games… and it appears they still like to bend the rules to do it.

McDawg

November 12th, 2010
9:47 am

so whats the deal w/ Latimore now

i hope they play him-this just makes the whole AJ thing evem more absurd

Sid

November 12th, 2010
9:48 am

does this put LSU legitimately in the title hunt? if the NCAA drops the anvil on Newton in the next two weeks does that send LSU to the title game & possibly title game? we may get our 1-loss sec vs (two) undefeated non-bcs scenario yet! can we PLEASE get a playoff & a legitimate champion?

Cecil Newton is a man of God

November 12th, 2010
9:49 am

The “deal on rhe Lattimore thing” is called “out of money.” Aubie didn’t have enough gas in the tank after Cam and Dyer.

ted

November 12th, 2010
9:50 am

The unfortunate thing for Auburn and Mississippi State is “if” they have been doing anything untoward concerning recruiting, it will come to light. This could cost both programs dearly. I had questioned why a new coach at Auburn which no one wanted at the school, could come in and recruit lights out. I also questioned how Dan Mullen could bring in such good classes knowing the history of MsState, their winning and recruiting. Both these schools have a long history of recruiting probation’s and it appears they have not learned their lesson.

BAMA dude

November 12th, 2010
9:50 am

Would really need proof on that one. I can’t recall any churches being busted for dirty donations.

Actually, you’re right- I worded that poorly. Preachers have been busted for running dirty money through their churches.

Nut Job

November 12th, 2010
9:50 am

I would be willing to bet that this happens more than anyone knows. One player and his dad don’t just come up with this idea on their own. Highly recruited players have been doing this for years. People were just either looking the other way or too busy with other things to worry about it. In the climate that we live in now, these things are going to come to light more often, just like we’ve seen with players across the country this year.

Any chance the FBI is getting involved because to look into financial records of the Newton family or the Church that Newton’s dad is a part of the FBI has to be involved? I have no idea of jurisdiction in this situation. Maybe they are looking into a large donation by someone from AU to Newton’s church or something???

Schools are either going to have to stop doing this altogether, or get smarter in how they do it. There needs to be much stiffer penalties for things like this. I’m talking lifetime bans by the NCAA, not only on players, but for agents and boosters as well.

3rdN8

November 12th, 2010
9:51 am

You’re nodding off at a red light…..it turns green….you continue to snooze. Some guy behind you sits down on his horn.

You stick your head out the driver’s window, and scream LOOPHOLE!!!

Hey…I like that.

Michael Vick

November 12th, 2010
9:51 am

“Dawg Mike”………….you talk a good game. How about we exchange email addresses, then phone numbers…..and make a bet? I know I feel good about the bet! Oh, by the way……..AU leads the series by 1, as of today. Hee’s a bet for you……..add 1, make it 2! I’m ready! You?
The dawgs will look like a “2nd flight” Michael Vick dog after Saturday.

UGA fans are so ...

November 12th, 2010
9:52 am

If it’s true that Auburn paid for Cam Newton, it can be said that they got a better ROI than Alabama did with Albert Means.

travy

November 12th, 2010
9:53 am

listen to the intvw here midway down the page:

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=5792707

imho, dude sounds fishy.

Cecil Newton is a man of God

November 12th, 2010
9:53 am

The FBI is involved because of the breach of federal privacy law at UF and the possible abuse of the tax exempt status of Cecil’s 5 churches. If only the Mann Act could someohow be implicated, they would have the trifecta.

Mobile Dawg

November 12th, 2010
9:54 am

Right now it sounds like a lot of circumstancial evidence to me. I don’t know how your going to track an anonymous donation to a church unless someone were sloppy. And for the FBI, someone tell me why they would be interested in NCAA politics.

Michael Vick

November 12th, 2010
9:54 am

RXdawg: You ever heard of UGA having any trouble with Jr College players?

You wanna bet on the game Saturday?

Cecil Newton is a man of God

November 12th, 2010
9:54 am

Cam is the Steve Jobs of the pay for play marketplace.

Auburn Will Forfiet Entire Season

November 12th, 2010
9:55 am

Auburn is blind to the truth. They will end up forfieting the entire season, national championship, sec championship and lose multiplte scholarships and massive probation…it is coming…Auburn has a long road ahead of them. You can thank Mr. Newton for a great “fradulent” season.

Mobile Dawg

November 12th, 2010
9:57 am

I can see the UF breach of privacy. An anonymous donation to a church in cash, if it happened, don’t know why the Feds would even know about that. Highly circumstancial, but could you hang your hat on that as a violation?

OkefenokeeDawg

November 12th, 2010
9:57 am

There was an article in ESPN this week about a scenario where LSU would get in the BCSCG, without even winning the West.

It gave me heartburn, cause I remember ESPN, and Les Miles repeating for a week, that UGA shouldn’t get voted into the BCSCG after the ‘07 season, “because they didn’t even win the East.”

Cecil Newton is a man of God

November 12th, 2010
9:57 am

When this all comes out, the Chiz will move to an undisclosed yurt in Ulan-Bator.

pk

November 12th, 2010
9:58 am

Enter your comments here

pk

November 12th, 2010
9:59 am

After Newton committed to Auburn, another source said an emotional Cam Newton phoned another recruiter to express regret that he wouldn’t be going to Mississippi State, stating that his father, Cecil, had chosen Auburn for him because “the money was too much.”
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=5792707

Cecil Newton is a man of God

November 12th, 2010
10:00 am

@MobileDawg

Agree, that is why the I exists in FBI. They will investigate and then have something to hang a hat on. These stories are more than enough probable cause to initiate the investigation. You would think that the FBI might be a little more worried about Al-Qaeda’s new field commander or ACORN or something though.

Michael Vick

November 12th, 2010
10:01 am

Your Tattoos are Lame:
Tigers, or Eagles? No, we’re the team that beats the bullbit-h-s more than they beat us……and we’ll be adding 1 on Saturday!

3rdN8

November 12th, 2010
10:02 am

I hope all Auburn fans believe that at least one Bama fan hopes this is cleared up. I take no joy in this situation.

but….on a more broader plain.

Bama, Texas A&M, and Washington were all busted for pay-for-play type scenarios. All of which involved car dealers (who were boosters). Please note: these scandals involved SEC, Big 12, and PAC 10 teams….anyone who thinks the SEC is alone in this type of behavior, should be subjected to daily rectal cavity exams.

What I can’t figure out is: these are smart guys (they’ve made millions in their businesses…which enables them to lay down impressive sums of cash without their wives finding out). Why then is it so easy for a bumbling-fool of an operation like the NCCA to smoke them out?

I think all school boosters should be forced to take a Money Management course that is offered by Vinnie LaCoderosa of Hacknsack New Jersey.

Tony ..

November 12th, 2010
10:02 am

“Stay tuned. This story is moving fast and a lot could happen between now and Saturday’s 3:30 kickoff”

Tony.. you are hoping !!! You are such a Dawg

Michael Vick

November 12th, 2010
10:03 am

RXDawg:
It appeared UGA enjoyed playing Jim Harrick’s players……….while they took bogus classes and tests (given by UGA!!!!). Try and Deny!!!!!!!!!
Let’s just say………………the GLOVE, FIT!

Eat it bull pup!

Cecil Newton is a man of God

November 12th, 2010
10:04 am

Tony is an Aubie Homer…that is why he has “Barn” in his nom de plum.

NewnanDawg

November 12th, 2010
10:05 am

Weagle Weagle Cam Ain’t Legal

travy

November 12th, 2010
10:05 am

listen to the interview. rogers is lying

JC65

November 12th, 2010
10:06 am

IF,,,, any NCAA sanctions are passed down against any school,they WILL NOT happen until after the fact. The season will be over and regardless of the outcome, forfiet of games, or whatever the teams AU has beaten will know they were beaten. They might be able to change the official records but in fans minds they will know the truth. The only team I can ever remember being stripped of a national title is USC. AU has nothing to lose by palying Cam in the rest of the games,unless the NCAA orders them to suspend him for the remainder of the season. I’m not sure the NCAA even does that. As a BAMA fan I say AU should take their chances and play him. What do they have to lose?

dr gonzo

November 12th, 2010
10:08 am

Quote by “We Are Family”
“We shall stand in denial until Hell freezes over. We shall nitpick every nuance of every speck of evidence presented. We shall deride the process and condemn the investigators. We shall create straw-man arguments to deflect attention away from the facts of the case.

We shall fly down the field — ever to conquer, never to yield.

WAR CAM EAGLE”

lol, what a tool.

nader taters

November 12th, 2010
10:10 am

Auburn’s defiance and arrogance are going to bite them in the end. But at this point of the season with only 2 games left, would they really benefit from sitting him once all the goodies become official on their cheating??

icallbs

November 12th, 2010
10:10 am

Nothing about this REMOTELY resembles the travesty that was the Duke lacrosse case. Good grief.

3rdN8

November 12th, 2010
10:11 am

@ JC65

You are wrong sir! Playing Newton, while having some degree of certainty that he is inelgible will effect AU for several years. It compounds the transgression, and goes to a lack of institutional control. Bama fans can certainly remember that category.

word to the wise

November 12th, 2010
10:11 am

Jim Harrick is President Adams doing. Any other school President would have been canned on the spot for dragging in such a virus, but Adams appears to have 9 lives.

Rusty

November 12th, 2010
10:11 am

You’re a joke Tony. I saw you being interviewed on ESPN several days ago saying what a travesty it is that this kid is being persecuted this way, and whatever happened to being innocent before proven guilty. Guess you’re singing a different tune now, huh? College football is the worst. The only sports where a legit national champion isn’t crowned, but instead is determined by people like you. Pretty sorry stuff if you ask me.

4WhatIt'sWorth

November 12th, 2010
10:12 am

Tony,
Why don’t you interview some of Auburn’s premier commitments and gauge their concern. I will be interesting to see how many start to schedule other visits.

lail

November 12th, 2010
10:13 am

this doesn’t resemble the Duke lacrosse case because in this situation the allegations all appear to be true, and not concocted on a moment’s notice.

Cecil Newton is a man of God

November 12th, 2010
10:14 am

@JC

The reason for sitting Cam is simple. You don’t want a USC-like nea death probation experience.

JC65

November 12th, 2010
10:16 am

@3rdn8 He has already played 1 game after this story started. The key word in your post is (having some degree of certainty) as of now nobody is certain of anything.

Cecil Newton is a man of God

November 12th, 2010
10:17 am

Damn I would like a deep pit barbecue sandwich with hot sauce and pickles….apropos of nothing other than being hungry.

Chris

November 12th, 2010
10:17 am

Tony, How about SEC not only asking coaches on MSU’s staff, but include Auburns staff, and Cecil Newton as well? Get Florida, Auburn, Alabama on the record before Saturday’s game.

Georgia Rolls!

November 12th, 2010
10:18 am

Georgia wins 42-17. This controversy allows us to whip the Tigers yet again when highly ranked!

travy

November 12th, 2010
10:18 am

icalbs- it does mirror the duke case in that it looks obviously bad on the surface–dirty college football, newton spurns former coach, shady preacher needs money–but if you dig even a little beyond the circumstantial evidence, there’s no substance to the allegations.

again, i would not be the least bit surprised if all the worst being reported about the newtons is true but at this point all we have is the word of wannabe agents and grifters who are without a doubt the most corrupt and greedy people in sports.

JC65

November 12th, 2010
10:18 am

@ cecil At this point it’s like the old saying in for a penny in for a pound.

3rdN8

November 12th, 2010
10:20 am

JC65

I’m not trying to parse words, but the level of “degree” would be (I think) key. The NCCA tends to err on the side of caution, and I’m guessing that any reasonable doubt as to elgibility would suffice.

MikeP

November 12th, 2010
10:21 am

This whole issue rests on the word of Kenny Rogers. Rogers is charged by the NFL Players Association for impersonating one of their representatives and they may prosecute. He’s currently under investigation by the NFL for impersonating a registered agent and his bank is looking for him in regard to $11,000 worth of bad checks.
Rogers told a completely different story yesterday than the story he told last Friday, to the extent that if he were in a courtroom the judge would have tossed him out.

He’s a sleeze and a con artist. The simplest explanation being the best, I think Rogers was trying to scam some wealthy MSU boosters out of $180,000 and they didn’t bite. Neither Auburn or the Newtons knew anything about it.

If the NCAA thought there was the slightest indication that Cam Newton or Auburn was involved, they’d have advised Auburn to sit Cam out back in August. As UGA fans know very well, the NCAA is not at all shy about “advising” schools not to use a player.

That the NCAA has NOT advised Auburn to hold Cam Newton out speaks volumes. Remember, while this information is new to the general public, the SEC and NCAA have been investigating this for months.

Sorry, I’ll believe the NCAA, Auburn and Cam Newton before I take the word of some sleezebag street agent that has already been caught lying about this situation.

Cecil Newton is a man of God

November 12th, 2010
10:21 am

@JC

Last week, it was more possible to defend playing Cam on a lack of evidence. This week that is less true but arguable. If something more comes out next week, deniability may cease being plausible. This is not a question of taking a single step off a cliff…it is more like heading down a slippery path a step at a time.

Bama12

November 12th, 2010
10:21 am

Cam Newton father is the person who needs to be in trouble with the NCAA and the law.
GO DAWGS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Zack MettenDawg

November 12th, 2010
10:21 am

my offers for next year:

AL $250,000
LSU $275,000
OK $325,000

Cam/Cecil should have asked for my type numbers.

BAMA dude

November 12th, 2010
10:22 am

JC65

November 12th, 2010
10:16 am
@3rdn8 He has already played 1 game after this story started. The key word in your post is (having some degree of certainty) as of now nobody is certain of anything.

We don’t know what the NCAA has. Bill Bell has reportedly spoken to them and told ESPN that Cecil did in fact ask for money.

BAMA dude

November 12th, 2010
10:22 am

MikeP

November 12th, 2010
10:21 am
This whole issue rests on the word of Kenny Rogers

If that were true it would not be front page news.

Miles

November 12th, 2010
10:23 am

Cam Newton is a SCUMBAG!

stevo

November 12th, 2010
10:23 am

There has been mention on the idea of pay for play. We all know the enormity of money being genrated by football and basketball. But the conundrum most people don’t realize is that many atheletic departments run in the red and not the black. Title IX and non-revenue sports eat up a lot of the money being generated by the big two. Obviously the NCAA has to reform its rule on the idea of extra benefits. If not, then we will continue to see the scandals which have come to light these past few months. The jealousy and contempt between programs will continue as we have seen in the Cam Newton saga. Something has to be done. But what is it?

Cecil Newton is a man of God

November 12th, 2010
10:23 am

@Mikep

Mike, there seems to be more evidence from MSU coaches linking Cecil (man of God) to the money demands. it seems less and less like Kenny (singer, chicken magnate, agent) freelancing and scamming.

Miles

November 12th, 2010
10:23 am

Cam Newton’s father is a SCUMBAG!

Miles

November 12th, 2010
10:24 am

Chizik is a gambler!

Miles

November 12th, 2010
10:25 am

Jay Jacob’s is a gambler!

3rdN8

November 12th, 2010
10:25 am

@ Zack MettenDawg

What a sorry post. We could pony up every bit as much as LSU. They’re still bussing people back into New Orleans.

Richard

November 12th, 2010
10:25 am

Intersting dilemma. If you punish Mullen for not having enough facts to come forward you effeectively silence furture coaches from coming forward.

The other question for me is, can the NCAA control a rogue parent? What if (I know its a stretch) Cam Newton had nothing to do with his father’s shananigans? Unless you can prove that Newton actually received money, I don’t know how you can hold it against Cam Newton?

ant

November 12th, 2010
10:26 am

We have a chance to 1-0 if we don’t play Cam…If we do play came we have a chance to go 0-11…..I love watching Cam and what he dose on the field and I want to support him as much as anyone but You cant take away a chance for all the other kids on our team to win when you have seen all this…..I hope they do what is best for Auburn as a whole!!!!

Miles

November 12th, 2010
10:27 am

Dark clouds in Auburn…Is it really the prettiest little village on the plains?

ant

November 12th, 2010
10:28 am

We have a chance to be 1-0 if we don’t play Cam…If we do play Cam we have a chance to go 0-11…..I love watching Cam and what he dose on the field and I want to support him as much as anyone but You cant take away a chance for all the other kids on our team to win when you have seen all this…..I hope they do what is best for Auburn as a whole!!!!

LogicalObserver

November 12th, 2010
10:30 am

Tony, what in the world do you mean “there is not one allegation that Auburn has done anything wrong”?!

It doesn’t take a genius to connect the dots:

1) The Newton’s wanted money for Cam to sign: a) “Two sources who can recruit for Mississippi State said that Cecil Newton and his son, quarterback Cam Newton, admitted in separate phone conversations to a pay-for-play plan while Newton was being recruited last year.”; b) Rogers quoted Cecil Newton as saying: “It’s not gonna be free this time.”

2) Miss St. would not pay up: a) Cecil Newton asked for money to sign his son and that one of the Mississippi State coaches said “No, no I don’t want to hear that.”; b) Bill Bell is a successful Mississippi State booster told ESPN.com last night that Cecil Newton did in fact ask for money to sign his son.

3) Cam signed with Auburn instead: a) Cam Newton apologized to another recruiter, claiming he had to choose Auburn because “the money was too much.”

This sounds like “lack of institutional control” if I’ve ever heard it!!!

Dumbest coach in the nation

November 12th, 2010
10:31 am

Sounds like uga homer Tony is trying to scare Auburn so his dogs might have a shot. Richt said they only pay 50k for tight ends!!! Ahahaha!!! I don’t know what is more stupid, projecting the Heisman frontrunner as a tight end, or telling everyone about it!!!!!!! LOL!!!!!

SI Cover Jinx

November 12th, 2010
10:32 am

You forgot to say that Cam Newton himself has said he went to Auburn because “the money was too much”

3rdN8

November 12th, 2010
10:32 am

You gotta admit….it would be tempting. You’re sitting in the AD’s office, it ’s July, and a blistering 112 degrees on the practice field, and fall camp starts in two weeks. You have on your team, a once-in-a-generation caliber player. This guy is a walking dynasty.

Now some dweeb in the Athletic Department is peeing in your Wheaties. He starts the conversation by stating; “there may be a problem”.

Do you focus on “may”. or “problem”?

If that was Auburn’s choice last summer, everyone would have to admit it would be a tough one for anyone.

Chris

November 12th, 2010
10:35 am

Just saw DesHoward say he supports Cam on ESPN. Wonder if he took money as well. I’m thinking they all are on the take. Probably SEC, Big ten and 12, ACC Pac10 all giving $ and benefits. Just like steriods. We need a mitchell report on college sports. yeah, that is where we are. Congress needs to get involved.

Zack MettenDawg

November 12th, 2010
10:36 am

@ 3rdN8 Nope…Coach Saban told me they couldnt offer me more than the running back Crowell (sp?) from Carver Columbus because I already had convictions on my record.

By Any Means Necessary

November 12th, 2010
10:36 am

Usually were there is smoke there is fire…In EVERY case like this something always comes out. Reggie Bush denied denied denied and now look at the so called false allegations…something wrong happened…its funny how Cecil Newtons church got a nice new place but I better not mention that because we all know how innocent the churches..they never do anything wrong in this country!

3rdN8

November 12th, 2010
10:36 am

Chris

You’re right. Congress could sure fix this. Please emphasize “fix”.

Colin

November 12th, 2010
10:37 am

I wish I could see the story objectively, but as an LSU fan, I have nothing but schadenfruede in my heart.

Chris

November 12th, 2010
10:38 am

Yeah, congress cant fix the budget maybe they could try college sports…lol

Tide Rising- witness to 4 IML

November 12th, 2010
10:42 am

Nothing short of amazing that AU is going to trust in this kid’s word and play him. That’s taking quite a gamble on a kid that was about to be expelled at Florida by a student committee for academic cheating not one time but allegedly in 3 separate incidents. On top of that there’s the ole laptop thing. I think anyone with 2 cents worth of common sense knows that this kid aint much for character and that to believe him is to believe in the tooth fairy. In any event I do hope he plays against us. I don’t want to hear any excuses from AU fans.

Michael Lenga

November 12th, 2010
10:42 am

Dawgs are a bunch of haters. Of course you say sit Cam out – that at least gives you a glimmer of hope. The facts shall speak and when they do then the action should be taken. Innocent until PROVEN guilty. A bunch of cry babies, wanna be’s making claims means nothing.

Funny how all this breaks out after AU kicked Ole Miss butt. Funny how all this comes out only when FL sees light. SHUT UP AND PLAY FOOTBALL. Playing is playing.
If you want to bench him because of alligations then – I heard someone say that ALL football players on the GA team took money, hell while we are at it so did FL and SC. There sit everyone out until we make a determination.

War Eagle.

Ray Drew

November 12th, 2010
10:42 am

@ Zach MettenDawg

Than cant be true because Coach Saban offered me more than that….but he told me he could because he could funnel it through my church just like Cecil did.

UGA Insider

November 12th, 2010
10:42 am

I do know for sure Dan Mullen is off the UGA radar because of this mess. McGarity doesn’t want to touch this with a 10 foot pole. This saga is actually going to slow down the coaching carousel and I do think CMR is 100% guaranteed to be the coach at UGA next season..Even if we lose the next two folks…100%. Things change fast don’t they.

BAMA dude

November 12th, 2010
10:48 am

Funny how all this breaks out after AU kicked Ole Miss butt. Funny how all this comes out only when FL sees light. SHUT UP AND PLAY FOOTBALL. Playing is playing.
If you want to bench him because of alligations then – I heard someone say that ALL football players on the GA team took money, hell while we are at it so did FL and SC. There sit everyone out until we make a determination.
… Michael Lenga

You ain’t all that bright, is ya?

Dirty Dawg

November 12th, 2010
10:50 am

First of all Tony, I don’t think the use of the term ‘all in’ or ‘roll of the dice’ is the correct way to reference this when it comes to your ‘defense’ of Auburn in this. Unless you’re just trying to send a message. Plus, if you think it vital that the SEC require all the Mississippi State coaches to ’swear on a Bible, or something’ about this, then why not Auburn?….or the Newtons?

As for those that say Auburn’s got ‘nothing to lose’ in playing Newton for the rest of the season – ever how many games that may be – I say you’re way wrong. Remember, USC got nailed in the Reggie Bush mess for ‘failure to exercise institutional oversight’ – or whatever that’s called. In this case, if this whole sorry mess should show that Auburn officials had direct knowledge of the ‘play for pay’ offer, and or that somebody like Bobby Louder – it is, after all, the well-healed alum that forks over this kind of money, not the school – was in on it, then Auburn is in for a hellovalot more than the loss of some scholarships and being banned from a bowl for a year or two. This could gut the institution’s athletic program for years to come. Besides, I’ve seen enough Law & Orders to know that the FBI can get the ‘luds’ from Louder’s jet, home or cell – he no longer’s with the bank for some illegal crap – surprise, surprise – so the truth will out one day and Auburn needs to, at least, try to come across as something more than pulling a ‘Baron Leone’ – I know, I’m showing my age.

Don’t get me wrong, I want the kid to play Saturday…I look back on instances when starting QBs have had to miss critical games and their opponents get the idea that they’ll win with ease – e.g., Shuler (sp:) at Tenn, the guy at LSU that beat UT in the SEC Championship – and the whole thing back-fired. I want us to beat Auburn in the worst way, but I want it to be against their best.

Driving Ms Dooley

November 12th, 2010
10:52 am

Ok, so let me get this straight: When Cecil asked for money, the MSU coaches said “I don’t want to hear that” and then the Newtons were directed to a booster with money?????

Are you kidding me? No wonder the stories aren’t adding up! The only real violations BY A SCHOOL are on MSU. Shouldn’t the coaches have said “no, we don’t pay for our players” instead of “I don’t want to hear that” and then make sure the money guys are contacted.

The MSU that speak, the dirtier they look. It seems that if Auburn did pay Cam, they’ve been smart enough to keep their mouth shut.

trey

November 12th, 2010
10:52 am

(( RAMBLE ON = Saint Simons ))) Another dingbat chick.

There is way too much smoke on this story for nothing to come of it.

Auburn isn’t going to sit Scam Newton for this game because they are desperate to beat UGA at all costs this weekend. Even if they have to vacate the win later they will never sit him.

LMAO what a cheating bunch of lowlifes if you have to buy a player in order to get back in the winning lane? Come on Barners. Are you that desperate?

Here is a question: what kind of cars does Cecil Newton drive? How new are they? Inquiring minds want to know.

Michael Lenga

November 12th, 2010
10:52 am

Hey I know a dude who knows some guy who says that his great uncle Jeb heard Jimmy discussed that it would take $90,000 to get him to convince his step son Billy to sign with GA.

Oh yea I don’t remember the exact words, day, time, but just blieve me because everyone loves to talk about something they know NOTHING ABOUT.

SHUT UP!!!

Michael Lenga

November 12th, 2010
10:55 am

BAMA dude

Much brighter than you sunshine.

Michael Lenga

November 12th, 2010
10:56 am

BAMA dude

Did you even go to Alabama?

WashingtonDCduck

November 12th, 2010
10:57 am

Tony: “” But the Cameron Newton story has sucked all of the oxygen out of this college football season. It’s sad. But you can’t ignore it even if you want to. “”

I’m not so sure the 2010 college football season has been ruined Tony. I get what you are saying, that some air has been sucked out down south on the plains in Alabama and that’s a shame. I agree with you on that point. It’s a shame that so much hot smoke has been blown, but not much hard evidence, i.e. some bank statements or a deposition of sorts. I like Cam Newton, and he’s so much fun to watch. If it comes out that he never was involved, and is a victim of guys looking to get 5 minutes of fame than shame on our system of 24/7 media and the victims that get stream rolled.

As far as the season being ruined or seriously tainted, ummmm… lol, sorry. Not the case. Let’s look at a few teams in the Top 25, a crazy not-so-traditional Top 25 I’ll say:

• UCF- great for their fans to be in the Top 25
• NEVADA – they have a chance to knock off Boise St. and be relevant in the national conversation. No, they are not going to a BCS, but to be relevant and shake up the national title picture and open up a BCS Berth spot for say a Stanford or other AQ school.
• SOUTH CAROLINA – will they get to the SEC Title game? They beat ‘Bama at home, and they are in the thick of the SEC race. Great year in Colombia even though they lose tough ones to UK and Arkansas.
• ARKANSAS – to me this is a real revival of their program. I’m not a SEC historian, but from a Pac-10 guy’s perspective this has been a great year for the Hogs and their program. They lost a heartbreaker to ‘Bama. Still, on pace to have a wonderful year.
• NEBRASKA – the last ‘hurrah’ in their finale Big 12 season has been slightly under the ‘magical’ year, beat Texas and it is, but still this team has surpassed outsiders expectations and will battle Oklahoma for a BCS Berth. Not bad for the last year before moving to the Big 10.
• STANFORD – Andrew Luck will be next April’s #1 draft pick, and he’s shown why he’s the best QB ready for the pros (I’d rather have Cam Newton). The Cardinal have bought into Harbough’s system, and play a hardnosed, physical game that SEC folks have to love. Not much fancy pants here, they hit you in the mouth early on and impose their game plan physically. Only loss was getting thumped in Eugene at Oregon in the 2nd half.
• OREGON – A new #1 ranked team that so far seems worthy of praise. Oregon football has been around for 115 years, and has never been ranked #1, to say the least it’s been a magical year. With 3 games to go, all indications point towards their ticket being punched for Glendale.

2010 has been a great year, and this is why College Football has BY FAR the best regular season in all of sports. Week 11 should be another exciting week.

vols12

November 12th, 2010
10:59 am

Tony Barnhart you must be a Georgia Fan. The only way UGA stands a chance to win. UGA Fans kill me they have player after player that breaks the law. Players go to jail on Friday Night and are in Sanford stadium by Saturday morning. The media on this story is terrible. Why is this information just coming out?

Driving Ms Dooley

November 12th, 2010
10:59 am

@Tide Rising
Nothing short of amazing that AU is going to trust in this kid’s word and play him

At this point, I don’t think we are talking about Cams word. Auburns responsibility is to try to find an Auburn booster that may have paid him and hope that when they deny it, that they were smart enough to cover their paper trail. Right now, all this story tells me is that MSU has been reluctant to provide facts to the NCAA for good reason. They entertained the idea of paying Cam. Maybe even put in a bid for him and lost. Now they are in hot water and squealing away.

lil lol

November 12th, 2010
10:59 am

What ever happen to innocent till proven guilty? Is this no longer the USA?

LB

November 12th, 2010
11:01 am

As a UGA fan I want Cam to play. You always should want to play the best. Go dawgs!

TrishaDishaWarEagle

November 12th, 2010
11:03 am

WAY TO GO FALCONS!!!!!!!!! We were there as usual section 125 ..watching the Falcons kick butt!!

Matty Ice DOES NOT LOSE in the ICE HOUSE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Love ya, Roddy!, FInnman! Grimey! The BEERman! Abraham! Clabo! Mclure!

WAR DAMN EAGLE!!! WAR CAM EAGLE!!!!! WAR CHIZIK EAGLE!!!!!!

lil lol

November 12th, 2010
11:03 am

They will do anything to keep Auburn from being #1 and To keep Newton from winning Heisman. Thats the main reason Evans and Bond broke the report without facts etc.

Chris

November 12th, 2010
11:04 am

Most D1 college football players are probably guilty and on the take, we just choose to ignore it, much like steroids.

Opinionated81

November 12th, 2010
11:05 am

Everybody is missing the big picture. This whole thing is about money and Im not talking about Cam and his dad but Im talking about the NCAA and the SEC. I highly doubt anything will happen as of now because like any business everybody wants a profit. Cam will play out this season just so everybodys bonus check will be exactly as anticipated. SEC is gonna protect thier interest and “investments” no matter who is involved.

toooldtogiveash*t

November 12th, 2010
11:06 am

Been watching college football for 60+ years. Paying athletes under the table has been going on since before I was born. It’s never going stop until every school pays their athletes a 3-4 year annual stipend. In return, players must commit to play for that period of time. Every school must pay the same amount to each player regardless of players’ talent, conference or independent status. Failure to meet academic standards for each year of attendance would result in forfeiting annual stipend and athlete could not play the following year. Pay the kids something. They generate enormous sums of money for their schools.

And anyway … the Dawgs ain’t gonna beat Auburn tomorrow.

Justafan

November 12th, 2010
11:06 am

HOW ABOUT THE FALCONS..80 yards in last 40 sec. and Falcon win…Great Game…Falcons are for real. Better story than Cam Rumors.

3rdN8

November 12th, 2010
11:07 am

This conversation re: Cam Newton, Auburn, etc….is all negative.

Look on the bright side. Bring in the right spin doctors, and this could be the feel-good story of 2010.

“Small town preacher completely bamboozles the NCCA, and college football, brings a much needed National Championship to a major university, and saves his condemmed church building from destruction.”

I see a made-for-TV movie here myself.

Delbert D.

November 12th, 2010
11:09 am

“The FBI has gotten involved and we’re not sure why.”

They would be investigating a possible federal crime, such as bank fraud (including money laundering) or an interstate crime. None of the FBI’s other defined responsibilities seem to fit.

Driving Ms Dooley

November 12th, 2010
11:10 am

Trish,

You ok?

Yeah that was a great game. The Falcons are the Charmed team this year like the Saints were last year. It seems that more than 50% of the games come down to the last minute in the NFL anymore and with Mattie Ice and Roddie White, we always have a chance to pull it out. We could be the ones in Dallas this year. Still alot to play though.

So what do you think of the coaches comments from MSU?–”We don’t want to hear that”, now heres the list of boosters you should be talking to.

Driving Ms Dooley

November 12th, 2010
11:13 am

@ 3rdN8:

I see Denzel as the Preacher, Snoop Dog as Kenny Rogers.

lail

November 12th, 2010
11:15 am

Auburn is definitely all in with Newton. At this point it’d be stupid to sit him, because once everything becomes official they program is going to get the death penalty anyway

dawghuff

November 12th, 2010
11:17 am

3rdn8… money used to brainwash people into a already dis-proven belief system where even more of their hard earned money can be extracted by this sham artist Cecil Newton is NOT a “feel good story”..

Ghost of Johnnie Cochran

November 12th, 2010
11:18 am

This isn’t funny;
My client took no money.

He plays for school pride;
He has nothing to hide.

When he’s on the field he can’t be stopped;
Hey, has anyone seen my laptop?

Cam is just like his dad, the apple doesn’t fall far;
There goes Cecil now driving his new car.

These are all rumors so let’s not be rash;
You want to convict, show me the cash!

Delbert D.

November 12th, 2010
11:18 am

For an examination of what is wrong with college football, you might want to read this:

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/11/12/sports/ncaafootball/12vecsey.html?ref=sports

Recruiting, Here are 2 paragraphs and a partial quote from that article:

“In Bush’s case, the Heisman had already been awarded. In Newton’s case, voters must gauge the reports and the denials. Why give the Heisman to a guy who may have been asking for down payments starting in high school? Let’s find another candidate who may not be dirty. Or not quite as blatantly dirty.

“The fact is, the commerce in running backs and other valuable assets is an annual and regular proposition — foisted on the country by that assemblage called the National Collegiate Athletic Association.”

“… the reality is that football and basketball at the top level are semipro enterprises grafted clumsily onto the fabric of education.”

Kenny Rogers

November 12th, 2010
11:19 am

Alright… I’m ready to come clean.

Pat Dye coughed up the $200K. Ms Dooley’s chauffeur was the driver and TrishaDishaWarEagle was the bag lady.

grumbles

November 12th, 2010
11:19 am

Barnhart, why don’t you reveal your “sources?” Did Cecil pay you to write this expose?

Delbert D.

November 12th, 2010
11:21 am

Sorry, “Recruiting,” wasn’t meant to be in that post. Editing problem on my part.

Driving Ms Dooley

November 12th, 2010
11:21 am

@ lail
How can you say that Auburn is all in with Cam Newton? Based on the info given to the SEC, there’s not much to talk about. Are you saying that Auburn should watch “the espn trial of Cam newton” and change their mind today.

Everyone seems to think that espn is a legal court reporting unbiased info. People they are selling advertising. It is not unbiased. Are people going to tune in to hear that there was nothing to it.

MSU staffers are the ones in trouble here. the opened a can of worms and then tried to say, well, um, we don’t really have time to get back to the SEC, and so hears some half-truths that may, or may not show how deep we were in this thing before we lost the bidding war.

Auburn should not act on ESPN reports. End of story

404

November 12th, 2010
11:22 am

UGA’s Mark Richt:
“AJ Green told me he didnt do anything wrong. So, I believed him.”

AU’s Gene Cheezit:
“Cam Newton told me he didnt do anything wrong. So I believed him.”

Mettenbergers Ghost

November 12th, 2010
11:23 am

AU is so desperate to play for the NC or win the SEC they would play Cam even if he wore an orange jump suit. So would the majority of other SEC schools. Except Saint Richt and UGA. Thats why we’re 5-5.

Yawn

November 12th, 2010
11:24 am

Falcons? Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaawwwwwwwwwnnnnnnnnnnnnnn.

NFL = National Felons League

TrishaDishaWarEagle

November 12th, 2010
11:27 am

I stand where I stood yesterday and the day before..Show me any PROOF beyond other peoples words, and I will look at it.

“he said, they said,she said, we said”, doesn’t cut it in any court or in my mind either.

WAR DAMN EAGLE 10-0 Freaky Friday prediction AU 42 UGA 21

Driving Ms Dooley

November 12th, 2010
11:27 am

@ Kenny Rogers

I’m not going to address what may or may not have happened, 2 weeks, 3 months… Ah hell I’m not going to address anything. I was the driver. That’s all I know.
And I want to be played by Morgan Freeman (again) in the movie

IT'S ALL ABOUT THE MONEY!!!

November 12th, 2010
11:27 am

NEWS FLASH:A CONVOY OF DUMP TRUCKS HAS BEEN SPOTTED COMING OUTTA OF FLORIDA LOADED WITH SAND!!! SEEM’S LEE CO.HAS RUN OUTTA THE STUFF FOR THE “ALLBARN FAMBLEE” TO STICK THIER HEADS IN!! I THINK IT WOULD BE CHEAPER JUST TO STICK THIER HEADS UP THIER BACKSIDES LIKE THEY ALWAYS DO!!!!!!!!!!!

Kenny Rogers

November 12th, 2010
11:28 am

NCAA don’t got no courtroom.

TrishaDishaWarEagle

November 12th, 2010
11:28 am

YAWN at the Falcons? You may not like the NFL but that game too 59:40 seconds to be decided, hardly a yawner! I can barely talk today.

TrishaDishaWarEagle

November 12th, 2010
11:28 am

Kenny Rogers

November 12th, 2010
11:30 am

But Michael Vick got to see one up close.

Driving Ms Dooley

November 12th, 2010
11:31 am

I think that the only school that will be punished by the NCAA is MSU because now they are going to have to inerview the coaches. And they will ask them, “when Cecil asked you for money, why didn’t you say no, instead of “No, no I don’t want to hear that”? And then why did you continue to recruit him while your money boosters were in contact with him?

MikeP

November 12th, 2010
11:33 am

According to “unnamed sources” Cam Newton is now being investigated on criminal charges related to intentional cruelty to animals!
Apparently video evidence has surfaced that he has intentionally applied beatings in recent weeks to rebel bears, wolves, bulldogs, tigers, chickens, hawks, wildcats, hogs and snakes. He has publicly stated that he intends on beating more dogs, elephants, gators, and ducks in the coming weeks!

Sit the rascal out!

Kenny Rogers

November 12th, 2010
11:35 am

Something’s Burning.

I can smell it.

Maddawag

November 12th, 2010
11:35 am

I am not an Auburn fan, I am actually a still proud UGA Alum, but I seriously doubt that if Auburn were not in contention for the Title game and Cam Newton wasn’t the front runner for the Heosman Trophy that we would be hearing any of this stuff. I think it is sad and dirty sports politics at its worst. I am waiting for a guy who will say they were sitting at a table in a restaurant seated next to table with Cecil Newton and a Miss Sate booster and he overheard the “play for pay” request. Unless and until there is proof, actual proof that the things alledged accured then leave the Cam Newton alone!!

MikeP

November 12th, 2010
11:37 am

Tomorrow, the atmosphere at Jordan-Hare stadium will be the most electric since Bammer came there for the first time in 1989.

AUBURN~45
UGA~~20

WE ARE FAMILY

November 12th, 2010
11:37 am

I knew you guys wouldn’t let me down!

Back2Boro

November 12th, 2010
11:40 am

These allegations have already been investigated. We are all just hearing leaks at this point. If anything had been found, we would have heard about it already.

DIT

November 12th, 2010
11:40 am

I feel sorry for the Auburn people. To me it has been a lot of hearsay. Have we seen any real evidence about this? Being a Dawg person I hope that it’s just a bunch of talk from people just trying to stir the pot. I would hate to see this come to fruition.
Plus, if my Dawgs have any chance of beating Auburn I would prefer they do it with Cam in there under normal circumstances.
I hope for all of college football this is just a nasty rumor and nothing else!

[...] Good article that sums up all the issues to date. Cameron Newton story reaching critical mass | Mr. College Football [...]

dawgfacedboy

November 12th, 2010
11:41 am

IF found guilty wouldn’t they have to forfeit the games in which he played?? And if so, why stop playing him now? They will lose every game he doesn’t play if they sit him. IMO you might as well play him and hope for the best.

At this point it sounds like a “he said, she said” and if that is the case how will they ever prove it one way or the other??? Unless there is a taped phone conversation or physical evidence of money changing hands they have no hard evidence.

I say play him, if he’s ineligible then your season is down the drain anyway.

Back2Boro

November 12th, 2010
11:41 am

Good point by Driving Ms. Dooley.

Back2Boro

November 12th, 2010
11:43 am

How do you prove the allegations? The word of MSU coaches who are bitter they didn’t get Cam?

dawgfacedboy

November 12th, 2010
11:43 am

The whole thing sounds sketchy. The timing particularly is sketchy.

Back2Boro

November 12th, 2010
11:44 am

The word of Kenny(don’t call me country) Rogers. Who told one story and then another

Delbert D.

November 12th, 2010
11:45 am

Meet the Newtons: Did anybody mention in any stories that Bishop Cecil Newton and older brother Cecil BOTH have played in the NFL? I don’t think so.

————————————————————————————————–
The oldest Newton son, Cecil of the Jacksonville Jaguars and Tenn. St.:

Source:
“NFL Draft Bible Q&A with NFL Draft Prospect center Cecil Newton from Tennessee St.”

“Interview was conducted on 3.16.09 by Small School Insider Josh Buchanan. Newton currently ranks as the 41st player on Buchanan’s latest Small School Top 50.”

“Newton: I live with both of my parents–we are vey close. I have two younger brothers–Cameron, 19, who is in college, and Caylin, 10. My dad is a bishop with an independent church organization. He is also the owner of a construction company. My motivation and initiative comes from the fact that as the oldest son I was always called upon to get things done. A lot of my traits, such as my strong work ethic and good character, come from my father.”

“Newton: My agent is Tony Paige with Perennial Sports and Entertainment. My father did a lot of background on potentially 10-15 other agencies that were recruiting me. Tony was a great selection because of his knowledge and experience in the industry. ”

————————————————————————————–
From the Wikipedia on Cecil Newton:

“His father, Cecil Newton, Sr. played college football for Savannah State and later for the Dallas Cowboys.”

Back2Boro

November 12th, 2010
11:46 am

I agree. Meyer and Mullen arer pissed. Their motivation is revenge. Guarentee the people leaking these stories to Schadd and others are tied to Meyer or Mullins.

Back2Boro

November 12th, 2010
11:47 am

Delbert,good info,didn’t know that.

Don4654

November 12th, 2010
11:48 am

This is similar to Bama in 1999.Started out with rumor,no evidence.We all know how that ended.

Delbert D.

November 12th, 2010
11:50 am

You might have missed these statement by Cam’s brother if you didn’t closely read the previous post:

“My dad is a bishop with an independent church organization. He is also the owner of a construction company.”

“My father did a lot of background on potentially 10-15 other agencies that were recruiting me.”

Mark Richt Voted for Democrats... he what???

November 12th, 2010
11:51 am

Auburn 45, UGA 17.

Even wearing their lucky red panties won’t help the dawgtards. It’ll be a long afternoon with Auburn’s hobnail boots grinding into their faces.

This is your Beatdown Special presented as a public service.

Jeff

November 12th, 2010
11:51 am

OH GEEZ…what a bunch of crap….we cant do the Friday forecast because of Cam……OH GOD…they world comes to a stop because of Cam……

G8R GRAD

November 12th, 2010
11:52 am

Tsk,tsk,tsk.

The most prophetic words of the day:

“If UGA wins then Bama is only a LSU loss at Arky from controlling their own SEC destiny again.”

Here we go!

long-time dawg

November 12th, 2010
11:52 am

Why do so many take pleasure in the misfortune of others? Because this is a very sick world.

BAMA dude

November 12th, 2010
11:54 am

Delbert, neither Cecil has made a lick of NFL money yet.

Terry Bowden

November 12th, 2010
11:55 am

Hey ya’ll Auburn brothers & sisters. Don’t sweat the NCAA ‘probabtion’ thing, you can still win games going forward, even without all your scholarship and stuff. Seriously. War Cam Eagle!! TrishaDishaWarEagle, call me!

BAMA dude

November 12th, 2010
11:55 am

You like that one G8R Grad? You know dem jellus Bammerz iz behind all dis.

Charlie Bama

November 12th, 2010
11:56 am

@ Jeff — Funny! Thanks CB

123

November 12th, 2010
11:57 am

Before this year, had Newton ever done anything to make him worth that kind of money?

BAMA dude

November 12th, 2010
11:59 am

You wanna read something funny? Check THIS out. Be sure to vote so you can see the results. Talk about delusional.

Observer Only

November 12th, 2010
12:01 pm

Sitting him now would not save Auburn’s season; if there are violations, every game he played in would be forfeited; so no win any way.

If Auburn has evidence, then they are in major trouble. If Auburn has no evidence; then they need to back the kid at this point until there is proof.

Let the NCAA and the SEC sort it out. Leave it alone till then.

Delbert D.

November 12th, 2010
12:02 pm

Bama Dude – Yes, but Cecil Sr. is very experienced in the business side of college and pro football. Checking out agents for his son Cecil, and maybe doing the same a bit early for Cam.

Art

November 12th, 2010
12:02 pm

Prediction:

Auburn has faced this sort of investigation, before and know how to cover up the trail. They’ll continue to deny, Cam plays the remainder of the regular season, and they finish undefeated. NCAA Hammer comes down in December, no Bowl this year, or for the next 3 years for Auburn. Auburn claims this was nothing but a witch hunt, and proclaim themselves as the True National Champion.

schmeckdawg

November 12th, 2010
12:03 pm

Here’s the thing a lot of folks aren’t getting. Once The Rev. from The Church of What’s Happening Now pimped out his son, he became ineligible. That’s according to the NCAA-holes.

BAMA dude

November 12th, 2010
12:04 pm

schmeckdawg gets it…

OkefenokeeDawg

November 12th, 2010
12:07 pm

“Let the NCAA and the SEC sort it out. Leave it alone till then.”
***********************************
So, you are closing this blog, Observer Only?

D Fence

November 12th, 2010
12:08 pm

Ahhhh – how we long for the simpler days of Fire Hoses and UGA VI snapping at Robert Baker.

How Bout Them Dawgs

Tech75

November 12th, 2010
12:09 pm

OK, so if you’re AU, why wouldn’t you ask Cam to take a polygraph, then ask him whether he actually said what is being reported that he said? If he won’t do the polygraph, or it shows he is either lying or deceptive, sit him until the NCAA finishes the investigation. If he does and passes it with flying colors, let him play.

AU football is risking everything in its greed for a possible NC…

I’ve looked at AU for a long time as a way-over-the-top football culture with a college attached; if all this turns out to be true, AU will be SMU redux…

Elrond

November 12th, 2010
12:09 pm

“schmeckdawg gets it…”

I think so too. Buh bye, Auburn.

wakers

November 12th, 2010
12:10 pm

Between the creep at New Hope and this sleaze ball Daddy Cam, black Rev’s in Georgia are giving us a bad name

Hang Down Your Head Vince Doodley

November 12th, 2010
12:11 pm

“We can beat Auburn with Newton.” I rolled over laughing so hard, I thought I’d never stop. This ain’t Florida’s anemic offense, that scored 34. Nor Colorado’s that scored 29. And they’re not the juggernauts of Vandy, KY, Idaho State, LA-Monroe or Tennessee that gave you morons such excitement over beating 5 of the worst teams in college football. Auburn will put up at least 50, if it’s with Kodi Burns it may just be in the mid 30’s…..but Newton will play. And it’ll be a rout. 51-24, after a garbage TD in the 4th by the backup QB. Stay on course Athens Correctional, you’re well on your way to 5-7.

Perhaps the NCAA should investigate an entire program full of criminals. 11 arrests is quite a few in one offseason. Not to mention a QB recruit who thinks he’s Big Ben, another one coming in who thinks the same thing, and an AD running around with red hooker panties in his lap getting a DUI after a “school” event!

Commonsense

November 12th, 2010
12:13 pm

Cecil was demanding 180K from Miss St. and the Barners are wanting us to believe that he did a complete 180 and allowed Cam to go to Auburn for free??? Seriously???

merculf

November 12th, 2010
12:14 pm

Let me explain it to the Bulldog nation for the last time….It is the Auburn Tigers. War Eagle is a fight cry. Just like UGA is known as the Bulldogs but when they rally the team they yell “Hunker Down”! Now to really confuse some of you….Alabama is the Crimson Tide but have an Elephant as a mascot….figure that out.

fyi

November 12th, 2010
12:14 pm

Hang Down Your Head Vince Doodley = Bitter, miserable, angry-at-life Yech fan

Obvious

November 12th, 2010
12:15 pm

@Tech75

There is a very good reason why polygraph test results are no longer allowed in a courtroom as evidence. Polygraphs are a scam. The last thing this story needs is more fog.

Driving Ms Dooley

November 12th, 2010
12:17 pm

NEW AND DAMAGING INFO ON THE CAM NEWTON STORY:

LANE KIFFIN CAN RELATE TO WHAT CAM IS GOING THROUGH!! Wait what?

Kiffin, when asked if the Newtons, or someone claiming to represent the family, ever said money would be required for Tennessee to sign Newton, Kiffin said, “No.”

Kiffin said his experience in the football-crazy SEC — “You hear so many things down there” — gave him a unique perspective.

“I remember so many things said about me that weren’t accurate,” Kiffin said. “It was a good lesson learned. If something comes on the radio or in print, I don’t think there are any facts to it at all until someone shows some proof. This is a perfect example.”

Cam, now you’re in trouble. When Lane Kiffin comes to your defense, things are pretty bad.
But seriously folks, I think the Camster knew that Mullen–his former coach–really wanted him to come there, and so he tried to get them in a bidding war. It didn’t work. To everyone else including Auburn, he wasn’t worth $200k. Good point Lame Kitten.

schmeckdawg

November 12th, 2010
12:18 pm

Thank you kindly BAMA dude and Elrond!!!!

Terry Bowden

November 12th, 2010
12:19 pm

Hey, Auburn — I can fix this. Call me @ UNA

North Ave Killer Beez

November 12th, 2010
12:19 pm

WHO CARES? Until they have some hard evidence (proof) why don’t they just shut up about it. All the what if’ this, what if that is just tired bologne already.

Buckhead Dawg

November 12th, 2010
12:20 pm

All this football talk is boring. Has anyone on here ever cooked a salt cured ham? Also my boyfriend thinks we should host a leather & lace themed “tailgay” party, I think the old standby Hamster and toilet paper tube is the way to go. Any thoughts?

BAMA dude

November 12th, 2010
12:20 pm

Well, merculf, an announcer once said the team looked like a herd of elephants rampaging out onto the football field. Only in Lee County would folks pulling for a team called the Tigers holler “War Eagle.” If it were a deflowered farm animal of some sort it might make sense.

Obvious

November 12th, 2010
12:21 pm

Well… If Lane Kiffin said it…

Oh, never mind.

75-76-DAWG

November 12th, 2010
12:22 pm

If any Mississippi State coaches heard the father say they wanted money, just hearing that made Cam ineligible. At that point it has to be reported to the NCAA. and Cam is ineligible until the NCAA makes him eligible again. It seems to me that Mississippi State wanted him reported for revenge but realized they were in to deep to get involved but the story got legs and now Mississippi State will end up screwing themselves. If the coaches at Mississippi State admits to the NCAA Cecil Newton solicited money , everybody will go down.

Terry Bowden

November 12th, 2010
12:23 pm

BAMA dude — Don’t you pick on my peeps! I’m waitin’ by the phone, and my brothers are ready to come with me.

KR

November 12th, 2010
12:23 pm

schmeckdawg

November 12th, 2010
12:03 pm
Here’s the thing a lot of folks aren’t getting. Once The Rev. from The Church of What’s Happening Now pimped out his son, he became ineligible. That’s according to the NCAA-holes.

Almost Correct.

What you really meant to say was: IF The Rev. from The Church of What’s Happening Now pimped out his son, he became ineligible.

Right?

Because right now, all we have on the record (and not under oath) is the word of an MSU booster who is admitting he took part in NCAA forbidden activity, even though last week he said he didn’t.

Obvious

November 12th, 2010
12:25 pm

@BAMA dude

Now I’m trying to picture 90,000 Auburn fans screaming Stump-broke Cow!!!

schmeckdawg

November 12th, 2010
12:26 pm

I stand corrected KR.

schmeckdawg

November 12th, 2010
12:27 pm

Come on North Ave Killer Beez being on here screwing around sure beats working on a very slow Friday!

The Feds Play for Real

November 12th, 2010
12:28 pm

KR – This is a sorted mess briming with liars, but knowing the FBI is now into it some how and for some reason (and that is a confirmed fact) tells me the liars are changing their stories to become innocent. And what they’ve changed it to is really smelly for Mr. Newton, if you know what I mean. I’m guessing Cam ride the bench in Tuscaloosa later this month.

Atlanta Gator

November 12th, 2010
12:29 pm

Obvious

November 12th, 2010
12:29 pm

@75-76-DAWG

That only works if you assume that MSU has not been cooperating with the NCAA all along. What is the “hard evidence” that suggests that this is the case?

The demand for hard evidence seems to be very one-sided.

Driving Ms Dooley

November 12th, 2010
12:30 pm

Bama Dude:
Schmeckdawg get it. Really? Gets what? That the MSU coaches stalled when the SEC asked for details because the details incremenated them instead of Auburn? Do you think the SEC office is throwing away the info that MSU gave them and watching espn as a means of gathering facts?

MSU almost fell for Cams scam. They didn’t say “no, we won’t give you money” The coaches said “we don’t want to hear that” in reference to the demand for money. I can see them covering their ears and going bla bla bla. Then they put them in touch with the money guys and continued to recruit him.

Auburns investigation is using the info that MSU provided to the SEC, which they should. That info is directly contradicted by the same MSU people who are crying wolf in the media. Info that is published by ESPN is for entertainment only. Not sworn statements. MSU has shot itself in the foot. Not Auburn.

Now man-up and play the game.

Terrence Moore

November 12th, 2010
12:31 pm

Just another poor, innocent black man being bullied and attacked by the evil, racist white Big Brotha

huh?

November 12th, 2010
12:33 pm

@ The Feds Play For Real — Are you not keeping score? Two people YESTERDAY put their names out there as sources. If anyone is afraid of the Feds being involved then why would guys start coming out of the woodwork that support the allegations?

Obvious

November 12th, 2010
12:33 pm

@Terrence Moore

That is more plausible that the crap that Ms. Dooley’s driver is spouting.

;-)

WE ARE FAMILY

November 12th, 2010
12:35 pm

Leave Ms Dooley alone! She’s family.

JD

November 12th, 2010
12:36 pm

Ok, if his Dad solicited money and Cam wasn’t involved or received any money, what then? It seems like his Dad was the one who decided where he would go to school.

Obvious

November 12th, 2010
12:39 pm

I hear that Auburn plans to bench Cecil Newton for the rest of the season — just to be on the safe side.

schmeckdawg

November 12th, 2010
12:40 pm

Easy does it there Driving Ms Dooley. I didn’t say squat about Auburn being in the wrong. I just said and let me re-phrase as was pointed out by KR is that IF Newton’s loving, doting father negotiated with ANYBODY on his sons behalf, it could have been Columbus A&M Community Technical College State University then according to the NCAA-holes he is ineligible. That’s it!

Driving Ms Dooley

November 12th, 2010
12:40 pm

@ 75-76-DAWG

If any Mississippi State coaches heard the father say they wanted money, just hearing that made Cam ineligible.

As you point out later in your post, it doesn’t matter who said what, until the NCAA agrees to it. Or at least agrees there’s enough evidence to investigate it. THEN, they send a letter.

So far, all we have is a bunch dummies from MSU saying “well he did it and we know he did it. But we didn’t tell the NCAA that because then they would actually investigate it and they would see that we were trying to pay him but couldn’t raise the money. But in the meantime, we can be “anonymous sources” for espn and tell the whole truth.

How’s that workin out for ya so far MSU?? The SEC looks bad. Yes, Cam Newton looks bad. You look really distrustful and also very very bad. And Auburn? Well, right now they look like they’re two games from a BCS CG. Nice work.

Ethan Rhone

November 12th, 2010
12:41 pm

$180K can buy a lot of laptops…and online essays.

OkefenokeeDawg

November 12th, 2010
12:41 pm

JD, your family can’t receive money either. Reggie Bush’s mom and dad lived in a big house in LA during Reggies days at USC, with the rent paid for by a sports agent. That’s what that mess started.

Obvious

November 12th, 2010
12:43 pm

@Driving Ms Dooley

How did you get access to all of the NCAA documentation? You seem to know more about this whole affair than anyone in the news media.

Plainsman Paul

November 12th, 2010
12:43 pm

Al Sharpton has called for everyone to meet him at Toomer’s Corner right after the game for a March to Montgomery. Are you with us?

WE ARE FAMILY

November 12th, 2010
12:45 pm

We shall overcome!

WAR CAM EAGLE!!!

Driving Ms Dooley

November 12th, 2010
12:45 pm

But smechster,
somebody has to report it to the NCAA–NOT espn. When the ncaa asked for more details, MSU was busy with more important stuff. Then they didn’t produce a fraction of what espn is reporting.

ESPN is not the NCAA. That’s all I’m saying. And there is no way they will get the MSU flip floppers to squeeze out the whole truth before the BCS mythical NCG.

It’s not Auburns responsibility to investigate espn reports.

Driving Ms Dooley

November 12th, 2010
12:47 pm

ESPN is not the NCAA, but By God I am!!!

Sam

November 12th, 2010
12:48 pm

Thanks for an objective evaluation and not joining the Cam must sit out lynching. At this point it is clear to me that money was solicited regarding Cam. There is no objective evidence that it was at Cam or his dad’s direction. If the story is as reported and 2 assistant coaches knew about it, why did they continue to recruit Cam and wend did someone connected to the Mississippi State was attempting to round up the money to pay the dad?

TrishaDishaWarEagle

November 12th, 2010
12:48 pm

Stop using my name dummy!

NOT REALLY MR ANYTHING

November 12th, 2010
12:49 pm

TONY, There you go again..I like the part of ‘SEC coaches looking SEC officials in the eye, and if they are lying, they will never get another coaching job in the NCAA’??? Really??? Really? I didn’t know the SEC could dictate who other conferences hired..

Bo in North Carolina

November 12th, 2010
12:49 pm

Jouralist ?!? If you remember also 87 Duke professors got into the act by taking out a full page ad in the newspaper condemning the team and coaches and after the smoke cleared not a word nor apology came from the group of professors who took out the ad.

Driving Ms Dooley

November 12th, 2010
12:49 pm

Ooops… I mean, stop using my name dummy!

Jack

November 12th, 2010
12:50 pm

Hey, everyone lay off Newton!! He’s a sweet kid!!! He even took to the time to stop and give me his autograph!!! Only cost me 10 bucks!!

Greg

November 12th, 2010
12:51 pm

@ Bo in NC,

That’s because the professors are liberal Nazis and aren’t really sorry.

Driving Ms Dooley

November 12th, 2010
12:51 pm

@ Obvious
How did you get access to all of the NCAA documentation? You seem to know more about this whole affair than anyone in the news media

A: I have a source at the AJC. Code name: Barnhart.

But the SEC, through spokesman Charles Bloom, revealed that in the reports that it received back from Mississippi State on this issue there was no mention–none–of any such conversations between staffers and the Newtons. I independently confirmed that last night with the SEC office

NCAA Investigators

November 12th, 2010
12:51 pm

@Jack

Did you get a receipt?

DawgDad

November 12th, 2010
12:51 pm

If money changed hands and the FBI is involved people are ultimately going to land in jail. Income tax evasion, Rico, money laundering. These are felonies.

So many adults involved in this apparently using the kid for their own advantage, shirking their responsibilities, potentially breaking the law or just flat out acting shady and corrupt. Again, if this plays out true, some institutional football death penalties need to be handed out.

schmeckdawg

November 12th, 2010
12:51 pm

@ Driving Ms. Dooley

We now have a new name in this this mix. Bill Bell is a successful Mississippi State booster and told ESPN.com last night that Cecil Newton did in fact ask for money to sign his son. Rogers said that he was referred to Bell on the issue of money. Bell also said he has already discussed this matter with the NCAA.

This is from Mr. College Football’s article above. Now one more time, IF this is true, then the kid according to the NCAA-holes is ineligible.

Driving Ms Dooley

November 12th, 2010
12:52 pm

I’m out. Tony, write about some football next week.

Driving Ms Dooley

November 12th, 2010
12:58 pm

And make it Falcons football. I don’t want to talk about Auburn anymore.

Driving Ms Dooley

November 12th, 2010
1:00 pm

Ok smech, I’m back for just one more because you make a good point. At this time, we don’t know what Bell told the NCAA. If he said the obvious, then it could be one mans word against another. Not enough to convict. But the bigger question is: Did the coaches refer Mr Rogers to Mr Bell.

Depending on the timeline, it sure seems like Cecil told the coaches he wanted money. Coaches response: we don’t want to hear that.

Cecil is referred to Bell. MSU continues its recruitment of Newton. This is where it all gets hairy and the stories start to conflict on the MSU side. When that happens, it discredits the MSU testimony.

Still no proof.

I could say that I met with AJ Green after he demanded money. What now? Sit him?

Driving Ms Dooley

November 12th, 2010
1:02 pm

There was definitely another gunman on the grassy knoll.

picasokat

November 12th, 2010
1:03 pm

Auburn has history of payoffs according to an ESPN article in 2003

ESPN AUBURN, Ala. — Former Auburn coach Terry Bowden said on tape two years ago that boosters were funneling thousands of dollars to football players when he became coach in 1993, a time when the Tigers already were on NCAA probation.

“They were paying players cash, $12,000, $15,000 to sign,” Bowden said on the recording. “All I was told to do was shake hands and say, ‘Thank you. I appreciate how much you love Auburn.”‘

http://es.pn/cm3byA

schmeckdawg

November 12th, 2010
1:03 pm

@ 75-76 DAWG

It looks like we just lost Driving Ms Dooley the War Eagle/Tiger whatever the hell they are.

Douglas Quaid

November 12th, 2010
1:05 pm

mr. newton’s financial records:

http://twitpic.com/365s93

Mark

November 12th, 2010
1:10 pm

ESPN is now reporting that two unnamed White House sources have confirmed that Cam Newton sold nuclear secrets to Iran. TMZ is also reporting that Cam is, in fact, the father of Nicole Richie’s latest child.

Tony, good article. Thanks for pointing out that the MSU side of this story is a mess and may pose more problems for MSU than Auburn or Cam Newton.

WDE no matter how this turns out!

chuck

November 12th, 2010
1:11 pm

They have to hate because they can’t be this great. Do you know why cam wears #2. Because the #2 in navy blue is gonna beat you. People make up all these allegations because no one else could have him. Auburn is gonna clean there schedule of all these losers we play and they claim to be former national champions. And the other team has a big fat over weight mutt in a dog house. Is that how the people in geogia do to their over weigt mutts when they can’t beat auburn.

schmeckdawg

November 12th, 2010
1:12 pm

Douglas Quaid

November 12th, 2010
1:05 pm
mr. newton’s financial records:

Now that is pretty damn funny!!!

Delbert D.

November 12th, 2010
1:15 pm

Driving Ms Dooley – “There was definitely another gunman on the grassy knoll.”

That was Charles “Chuck” Rogers.

merculf

November 12th, 2010
1:16 pm

Bama Dude I know the story about how Auburn and Alabama got their respective nick names. I was trying to explain it to the slower UGA fans. It wasn’t a poke at Bama. WDE!

OkefenokeeDawg

November 12th, 2010
1:18 pm

“If he said the obvious, then it could be one mans word against another. Not enough to convict.”
**********************************
What if it’s one man’s word against 4 or 5 men’s words?

Vance Duuley

November 12th, 2010
1:18 pm

Perhaps the NCAA should investigate an entire program full of criminals. 11 arrests is quite a few in one offseason. Not to mention a QB recruit who thinks he’s Big Ben, another one coming in who thinks the same thing, and an AD running around with red hooker panties in his lap getting a DUI after a “school” event!

A lot of people are thinking the same thing. UGA is simply a football factory, with all of the students and buildings just backdrops for the real purpose of UGA – fielding a powerhouse football team.

The problem with all of this is that football factories are supposed to be good, really good, certainly in the top 25 if not in the top 10. But UGA sucks, so what’s wrong?

Two words: Mark Richt.

Auburn 49, Georgia 17. Newton will have a career day, and Murray will look like the rookie he is. Mercifully, it will be over after the first quarter, and dawgtards can relax and watch a first-rate team at work – Auburn, of course.

schmeckdawg

November 12th, 2010
1:18 pm

chuck

November 12th, 2010
1:11 pm
They have to hate because they can’t be this great. Do you know why cam wears #2. Because the #2 in navy blue is gonna beat you. People make up all these allegations because no one else could have him. Auburn is gonna clean there schedule of all these losers we play and they claim to be former national champions. And the other team has a big fat over weight mutt in a dog house. Is that how the people in geogia do to their over weigt mutts when they can’t beat auburn.

Just curious Chuck, have you been living under a rock for the past 4 years because I could swear The DAWGS have OWNED the war chickens during this time!!!

picasokat

November 12th, 2010
1:19 pm

From NY Times 1993

“Two years after Eric Ramsey, a former Auburn defensive back, revealed that he had spent three years secretly taping various coaches discussing illicit payments to him and other players, the National Collegiate Athletic Association imposed heavy penalties on the school’s football program yesterday, including a two-year ban on post-season play and a one-year ban on televised games.

Relying heavily on Ramsey’s tape recordings, the N.C.A.A.’s Committee on Infractions cited a series of “very serious major violations” in placing Auburn on probation for two years.

In a scathing introduction to its 18-page report, the committee chastised Auburn for becoming one of only three universities — the others are Arizona State and Southern Methodist — to have been placed on probation six times, in Auburn’s case a total of 12 years on probation since 1956. Persistent Offender

Auburn has been such a persistent repeat offender, the report noted, that the new two-year period of probation will not even begin until Nov. 23, when its most recent two-year probation, for basketball and tennis irregularities, expires.

The school did manage to escape the N.C.A.A.’s so-called death penalty, which shuts down a program. David Swank, the infractions committee chairman, said the death penalty did not apply in Auburn’s case because the football wrongdoing occurred before the basketball program was placed on probation. ”

http://nyti.ms/b8qebK

merculf

November 12th, 2010
1:21 pm

@Bama Dude They started using an Elephant as a simbol because the trunks the team used when traveling was made be a company that used an Elephant for a logo. It didn’t have anything to due with “a herd of elephants” ….google is a great thing..try it.

OldFan

November 12th, 2010
1:22 pm

Look at this from Auburn’s point of view. Why bench Cam, increase the liklihood of losing this Sat, and then be out of the NC picture. Play him, and if the NCAA slams them later, they’ve lost only what they would have lost anyway by benching him. And the possibility remains that nothing will come of this. This assumes of course that Auburn’s done nothing on its own that warrants NCAA penalties. What Cam’s dad did with MS is another matter for the NCAA and Cam.

ratherBgambling

November 12th, 2010
1:26 pm

In a symbolic show of support for Cam, I’m going to put 10 stacks of high society on Auburn Saturday.

BAMA dude

November 12th, 2010
1:27 pm

merculf

November 12th, 2010
1:21 pm
@Bama Dude They started using an Elephant as a simbol because the trunks the team used when traveling was made be a company that used an Elephant for a logo. It didn’t have anything to due with “a herd of elephants” ….google is a great thing..try it.

I don’t need to Google anything. They were referred to as red elephants because the players were huge and they resembled a herd of elephants on the football field. I have known this for many years now.

sCam Newton

November 12th, 2010
1:27 pm

I will keep denying this until you actually find where I have the $200k hidden!

BAMA dude

November 12th, 2010
1:30 pm

Driving Ms Dooley

November 12th, 2010
12:30 pm
Bama Dude:
Schmeckdawg get it. Really? Gets what? That the MSU coaches stalled when the SEC asked for details because the details incremenated them instead of Auburn? Do you think the SEC office is throwing away the info that MSU gave them and watching espn as a means of gathering facts?

No, Bill Bell claims that he already sat down with the NCAA. Kenny Rogers is supposed to sit down with them next week. If their stories check out then Cam is ineligible. Period.

bill

November 12th, 2010
1:31 pm

OK, lest see? he is guilty of academic fraud x3, he had a stole lap top he painted, and hey I need to paint mine, have any recommendations for a color or particular paint? he threw the painted laptop out the window when the cops came calling. Hey he is a model citizen, a great example for all young athletes right! he just made a few mistakes is all.

There are few mistakes made in life, people make choices and decisions. when you make bad decisions, knowing the consequences, just like Michael Vick, you pay the price oif caught. To even consider someone with a histroy of intentional misconduct, crime and fraud for an award such as the heisman, indicates the morals and character of those suggesting such.

There is to much smoke not to be a fire. Lets not forget Auburn hold the record for most major violations. Carnel Williams would have been the 9th major violation if his drug deal had not been outside the time frame for being able to enforce penalties.

Camo Newtoni

November 12th, 2010
1:33 pm

“They were referred to as red elephants because the players were huge and they resembled a herd of elephants on the football field.”

Maybe they were all Republicans.

Well no, there weren’t any Republicans in the South in those days.

schmeckdawg

November 12th, 2010
1:35 pm

You go BAMA dude!

Monica

November 12th, 2010
1:36 pm

Auburn is a one man team right now. Take out Cam and everything they have shown this year would have never happened. Auburn is and will always be “Alabama’s little sister” and that will never change with or without cam but let’s get to the issue. Auburn has shown their true colors and what they are about. They would rather support someone who has lied, cheated and stolen and keep playing him to win a game, then risk making fools of themselves out on a field by not having him out there playing and showing morals and class. Shame on you auburn and your staff. These allegations are not made up, they are on public record and are facts. That is fine, play your boy now but your team will suffer 3 years from now while cam is off to the NFL.

schmeckdawg

November 12th, 2010
1:40 pm

@ BAMA dude

I sent the paragraph from the above artcile stating the same thing about this Bell guy to Driving Ms. Dooley, he bailed after that. It’s like Jack Nicholson’s line in A Few Good Men, he can’t handle the truth!

OkefenokeeDawg

November 12th, 2010
1:41 pm

“Is that how the people in geogia do to their over weigt mutts when they can’t beat auburn.”
****************************************
chuck, chuck, chuck (shaking my head),

most Dawg fans don’t give a damn about Cam Newton. I’d hate to play Auburn this season without him playing, cause we’d have to hear about that for the next 10 years.

I mean, we now know he is a cheater, as far as tests, and term papers go. We also know he dosen’t mind getting deals (wink, wink) on laptops, but we don’t know yet if he and his father got money from Auburn boosters.

With Auburn’s past wrongdoings with the NCAA (7 times on probation for major infractions), plus Terry Bowden’s admissions of Auburn boosters paying recruits $15,000 to sign with your school, while on probation in the 90’s, it seems likely that if Cam and dad DIDN’T get paid, they should be outraged . . .

AU BUSH

November 12th, 2010
1:42 pm

I love AU and it’s athletics, but Aubbie is screwed and they better react quick!!

BAMA dude

November 12th, 2010
1:45 pm

@ BAMA dude

I sent the paragraph from the above artcile stating the same thing about this Bell guy to Driving Ms. Dooley, he bailed after that. It’s like Jack Nicholson’s line in A Few Good Men, he can’t handle the truth!

I don’t know about that, he’s a Tennessee guy. Of course, being a UT fellow, I’d imagine he’d be interested in Clay Travis’s thoughts:

ClayTravisBGID‎: Yep, @slmandel, the focus on “reliable” witnesses is a distraction. Rhodes scholars don’t testify in criminal trials that often.
Twitter – 1 hour ago

ClayTravisBGID‎: People screaming “evidence” have never been in a court room. There is more than enough evidence here. Far more than needed.

npgator

November 12th, 2010
1:46 pm

Funny how this story came about the week of the Georgia game. If he ends up getting suspended I hope it is after they tear apart the lowly bulldogs.

BAMA dude

November 12th, 2010
1:47 pm

Oh, and Stewart Mandel’s response was interesting too:

slmandel‎: @ClayTravisBGID You are correct. USC, Reggie Bush were “convicted” largely on the testimony of an ex-con.

schmeckdawg

November 12th, 2010
1:51 pm

Good stuff BAMA dude!

More CAM @ UF

November 12th, 2010
1:51 pm

Auburn was in a tough spot. BAMA had gone undefeated, won the SEC championship, and was about to play for the national championship. Everyone was proclaiming Saban the greatest coach ever and Auburn was finishing the year losing 5 out of the last 7.

I can certainly understand why some Aub booster paid for Cam. BAMA was not in nearly as bad a situation when our idiot boosters were buying players.

dawg

November 12th, 2010
1:51 pm

NPGATOR: And you don’t think that the Urban Crier dropped this dime on Newton?

Randy

November 12th, 2010
1:53 pm

WE ARE FAMILY,

Next week you can change your screen name to WE ARE ON PROBATION.

Beth

November 12th, 2010
1:55 pm

Just wondering if the super-booster Bobby L’s name has come up yet?

Cecil Newton

November 12th, 2010
1:57 pm

I have $180,000 that I need to invest before NCAA comes to my door. Please call using code word “laptop”. See you in church this Sunday..Praise the almighty dollar.

BAMA dude

November 12th, 2010
1:57 pm

Serously, check out Clay Travis’s Twitter page. He’s a bit dooshy but is all over this. Just retweeted that Ian Fitzsimmons, the reporter who interviewed Rogers, now says that Rogers wanted to sit with the NCAA today but the NCAA can’t do it until Tuesday.

twitter.com/claytravisbgid

BAMA dude

November 12th, 2010
1:58 pm

Nah, Beth, this time they’re blaming Milton McGregor.

Beth

November 12th, 2010
2:00 pm

@Bamadude…LOL he seems to be the one to blame for anything these days

YellowJacket

November 12th, 2010
2:03 pm

The dawgs are about to get one serious beat down.

amitch34

November 12th, 2010
2:04 pm

This story didn’t get big until Cam Newton started winning games.

Alphare

November 12th, 2010
2:05 pm

If Cecil Newton indeed got the money to repair his church, I am all for the Newtons regardless how much money he might receive. But like TigerTown said earlier, this whole thing is really about sour grape.

Auburn is about to win an NC, and some people just got their true nature exposed.

Border Town

November 12th, 2010
2:09 pm

Funny UGA fans passing judgement on another school’s team. Maybe you should focus on getting the Dogs act cleaned up first. Has the Clark County Work Release program arrived in Auburn yet?

BAMA dude

November 12th, 2010
2:09 pm

OK, one more then I’m done with the tweets. From Jay Tate @ the Montgomery Advertiser:

@HABOTN: Auburn’s current, official stance on Cam Newton’s eligibility: “No comment.”
Twitter – 7 minutes ago

@HABOTN: Asked to confirm if that represents a change from the school’s earlier stance, spokesperson said: “No comment.”
Twitter – 10 minutes ago

Douglas Quaid

November 12th, 2010
2:10 pm

Auburn’s got a bye week coming up…….. I suspect this gets settled next week.

Evansdawg

November 12th, 2010
2:10 pm

Where is Mike Slive in all of this? He failed to step in on the Rainey situation. Why that guy is even wearing a NCAA uniform is beyond me. Slive should’ve intervened. Now, three programs in the SEC are under fire for Cam Newton, Miss State, Auburn, and Florida, but Slive seems disengaged. I am starting to think the man has no spine.

merculf

November 12th, 2010
2:11 pm

Bama dude…so you know it was written in a newspaper (the AJC as a matter of fact) and not an announcer right?

Monica

November 12th, 2010
2:13 pm

That is the problem today. People support those who do wrong regardless of how bad it is. He and his family broke the rules. Rules that are known to everyone who follows football. I would not want college football to be tarnished by having someone of his nature and class winning the heisman trophy nor would I want to see a team win a NC simply becuase of one person on their team who is a true liar, thief and cheat. I think auburn fans like you Alphare, are forgetting one thing and that is you still have to play Alabama and if you know the Iron bowl you know anything happens there. One step at a time. I would not get to confident just yet…

Alphare

November 12th, 2010
2:15 pm

BAMA dude, what the hell about the “no comment” speculation? Could it be Auburn people so tired of the whole thing and don’t want to comment on it? Could it be Auburn people want to keep UGA in the guessing game?

Famous Quotes

November 12th, 2010
2:16 pm

“I didn’t do anything wrong” – Cam Newton

“Laptop? What laptop?” – Cam Newton

“I did not have s@x with that woman” – Bill Clinton

“I was hiking on the Appalachian Trail” – Gov. Sanford

“I’m retiring” – Urban Meyer

“I’m retiring” – Brett Farve

“Michael Vick is a falcon for life” – Mr. Blank

“I’m your coach” – Bobby Pig-Sooey Patrino to Mr. Blank

“We are on track to keep the House” – Nancy Pelosi

“You don’t know who you are dealing with – he has the power to beat this” – Damon Evans’ girlfriend

“It was just a one car accident” – Tiger Woods

Alphare

November 12th, 2010
2:24 pm

Monica, are you really a girl or a guy with a girly handle?

“a true liar, thief and cheat”? are you kidding me? A preacher’s son turns rebellious, does that sound familiar to you? Heard of Phil Jackson? his dad is a Jesus man but he becomes a Buddhist. Life is not always a straight line, sometime some people have to make a turn.

Andrew Manis

November 12th, 2010
2:27 pm

Quite apart from allegations of “play-for-pay,” Cam’s performance at UF is enough to deny him the Heisman. Did he deserve a second chance after he bought a stolen laptop? How about when he submitted someone else’s research paper? How about a third chance when plagiarized a paper a second time? Plagiarizing just twice gets one kicked out of most colleges. Grant him the chance to transfer and get an education ON SCHOLARSHIP and play football at Auburn University. But a “student-athlete” with this sort of record in college does not exhibit the “integrity” that is mentioned in the criteria for the Heisman Trophy. Does he deserve a second chance to “grow up?” Of course. But attending and playing at Auburn WAS his second chance–or third or fourth or fifth, depending on how you count.

But his achievements on the field do NOT entitle him to the stamp of approval of the most famous individual award in all of sports. To withhold Heisman votes from Cam Newton is not, as Tony Barnhart has said, “fundamentally unfair.” It is not only fair, but even merciful, to Cam Newton, whose record deserves expulsion. To vote for Newton is actually unfair to other players with both athletic prowess on and integrity off the field. More important, however, voting for Cam Newton is unfair to the rest of us who deserve better than the “win at all costs” society that major college football is trying to foist upon us. Frankly, I think the ESPN gurus who say his record at UF will not affect their Heisman votes ought to be ashamed of themselves.

Alphare

November 12th, 2010
2:29 pm

When do you know who your true friends are?

It’s when you have success, when the jealous coming out against you.

ga gator

November 12th, 2010
2:29 pm

Evansdawg, he didn’t step in on Rainey because of the same reasons that he doesn’t step in on UGA’s misdemeanor offenses, they are handled internally. Did he step in on Udell Thurman, Montez Robinson, Washaun Ealey, Zach Mettenberger……………………?. Please tell me how the Florida program is in trouble or under fire for the Cam Newton’s sad saga.

ol' balls coach

November 12th, 2010
2:29 pm

Any amount of money that may have exchanged hands relative to recruiting may pale in comparison to a Newton vs. U of F/State of Fla. lawsuit associated with the leak of information in violation of privacy laws – now that would be a Church!

Dumbest coach in the nation

November 12th, 2010
2:30 pm

The dawgs cried when they had to play Rainey, now they’re crying and wanting AU to sit Newton. They want something given to them because they can’t win it on their own. Oh yeah, they cried when they were not picked for the BCS NC Game, the year they couldn’t even win their HALF of the conference!

Dawg Tired

November 12th, 2010
2:33 pm

Vance – Newton got more tickets in one semester than the whole UGA team in one year. The difference is most schools’ players do not get written up in the newspaper when they get a traffic ticket (or even fail to appear for one – Newton apparently did that to). Of course, I suspect you already know all this.

cpagrrrll

November 12th, 2010
2:36 pm

Point 1…not for profits (the church) file 990 returns to the IRS. These returns list donations/contributions > than 2,000 and another % that I won’t get into…these returns are publicly avaialble and if requested, must be provided.

Point 2…having worked in compliance at an NCAA institution, I know for a fact…violations reported to the SEC, or any other conference and the NCAA are reported in writing….tons and tons of paperwork….this whole “it was reported verbally” is BS…

Point 3…churches or other NPO’s can receive donations from whatever means…it is not laundering if they received money through several people connected with this…what they did with it if they received it is the question..

Also, a local station reported that renovations began on this church prior to Newton signing with Auburn

4th and Long Gone

November 12th, 2010
2:36 pm

I don’t understand the risk. If Newton is ineligible, then Auburn will have to forfeit all the games he played in anyway. So what is the risk, that they have to forfeit a couple more? They will not be hit with any additional sanctions for playing him (other than forfeiting) unless someone can show that Auburn knew or was part of the payoffs. So Auburn’s choices are: 1) Play him, have him found innocent, and possibly win the national championship; 2) Play him, have him found guilty, and have to forfeit the 11 games he played; 3) Sit him, lose the remaining games and have to forfeit the games he played. Seems to me, if he is guilty, Auburn will lose all 11 games either way. Might as well play him and hope he is innocent.

BAMA dude

November 12th, 2010
2:37 pm

Alphare

November 12th, 2010
2:15 pm
BAMA dude, what the hell about the “no comment” speculation? Could it be Auburn people so tired of the whole thing and don’t want to comment on it? Could it be Auburn people want to keep UGA in the guessing game?

Well, I don’t know. Apparently Jay Jacobs said that the school is not commenting on Cam Newton’s status at this time. Take it for what you will.

Rooster's Tale

November 12th, 2010
2:37 pm

Where is Al Sharpton & Jesse Jackson?

gir know better than you

November 12th, 2010
2:39 pm

just wondering if you Tony still stand on your words from a few days ago, if Cam Newton is guilty, he can just give the Heisman trophy back? Is that how you feel? Do you think the SEC will say it is no big deal as well and that they will ask Auburn to ask Newton to give the trophy back? A senior writer for the AJC feels it is no big deal, hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah

Dumbest coach in the nation

November 12th, 2010
2:40 pm

I heard Percy Harvin almost considered Ugay, but Richt had him projected as an offensive tackle!!! LOL!!!

BAMA dude

November 12th, 2010
2:41 pm

Dawg Tired

November 12th, 2010
2:33 pm
Vance – Newton got more tickets in one semester than the whole UGA team in one year.

I doubt that. They don’t report every effing traffic ticket, just the arrests.

AMG

November 12th, 2010
2:44 pm

Here is some logic. I do not believe ANY of this for a second. Why now, why start talking about Florida cheating. That is the biggest non starter in the history of the NCAA. Why? Because if I went to florida and cheated and left for a Junior College, did well, I could go to Auburn and none of it is illegal. The money thing is flat out funny it is SOOO way wrong. Where is the money?? Why is Miss. St reporting this? Why is Florida reporting the academic cheating? It is not easy being green and it is even harder to hide green from the FBI. Trust me the FBI is involved to track money and if the find it then this thing is an atomic bomb, but my bet is it is a bunch of BS from green SEC loosers.

Pensacola Dawg

November 12th, 2010
2:45 pm

For all you Auburn folks, I hate this for you. But you are only making it worse by talking about about the Auburn family. This kid could care less about the Auburn Family..he has only been around a few months. I have a friend who played football at Auburn, he told me 2 weeks ago that Auburn had been cheating big time suddenly getting these 4 & 5 star recruits. For the sake of your University, please start thinking in those term and turn this slim in.

Bwell

November 12th, 2010
2:46 pm

TB, I’m devout Dawg fan, but as a conference the SEC rules above all other conf. This is shameful and sad, as a father and I would NEVER shop my kids around for money, and say this time its not for free! Did Fla give up something too? Embarassing!

Atlanta Gator

November 12th, 2010
2:46 pm

Evansdawg—-

The off-the-field conduct of an athlete from an SEC member institution is not the business of the SEC commissioner, unless it involves violations of NCAA or SEC rules that impact the eligibility of the athlete. The SEC commissioner has nothing to say about it otherwise. The determination of Rainey’s culpability, punishment and probation were matters for the 8th Circuit Court, the University of Florida Student Services Division and the University Athletic Association, not the NCAA and not the SEC.

Frankly, the SEC and NCAA seem to have a tough enough time enforcing their own rules, let alone the Florida Statutes and the University of Florida Conduct Code. The last time the NCAA got involved in Florida law and politics, the NCAA tried to tell Florida State to drop its Seminole mascot . . . until FSU, the Florida Attorney General and the Seminole Tribe of Florida threatened to sue the NCAA in a Florida trial court. You may have noticed the FSU Seminoles are still the FSU Seminoles.

Until you pass the Florida bar exam, I suggest you stick to what you know.

SOUTHGADAWG88

November 12th, 2010
2:46 pm

Maybe Percy wanted some dough too

AMG

November 12th, 2010
2:46 pm

Also one big point, the media is officially the lowest scum in the history of the world and they are digging deeper everyday.

Waldy Butz

November 12th, 2010
2:48 pm

I am so proud of our wonderful SEC institutions of higher
learning.

You reap what you sow!

AMG

November 12th, 2010
2:48 pm

Florida is behind this, you know the commit, this time it won’t be free is straight from Urban’s press corp.

BAMA dude

November 12th, 2010
2:50 pm

Pensacola Dawg, that’s a great point. Add to that the fact that Cam has said that his heart is till in Florida and that HE wanted to h=go to Missy State but let Daddy choose Auburn, and the “Auburn Family” garbage just gets laughable. Cam Newton could care less about Alabama Poly.

LOVE TO SKI

November 12th, 2010
2:55 pm

Let him play… we can decide the winner later!!!!!!

Sean

November 12th, 2010
2:58 pm

This is what I read: blah, blah, blah, these are all allegations, nothing’s actually changed. I would like to wager good money that these “sources” are full of sht about the pay for play scandal. It’s obvious sour grapes.

The Florida stuff is true just not sure if that matters.

http://thebubblescreen.blogspot.com/2010/11/underdogs-san-diego-state-penn-state.html

BAMA dude

November 12th, 2010
2:59 pm

Sean the spammer again! Still not clicking.

LitiGator

November 12th, 2010
3:00 pm

The kid stole a laptop at the University of Florida. He put his name on someone else’s paper. He was caught cheating three times. He was facing expulsion from Florida. And now he’s the quarterback at Auburn. Any wonder why the nation looks down on SEC schools?

Rainbow Fairy

November 12th, 2010
3:00 pm

What’s the deal with airplane food, I’m I right folks??

Monica

November 12th, 2010
3:01 pm

Does anyone recall the press conference that newton did after they got #2 in the poles? Newton was asked how he felt about being the lead pick for the heisman trophy. Newtons response was “They can throw it out the window for all I care, its not about that, its about my team and having a great season” That right there should have knocked him out of the contention. No class whatsoever and no respect for such an honor. He could careless about Auburn. He is there for one reason and one reason only and that is to be drafted by the NFL. he will be gone next year anyway. let them have their 15 minutes of fame.

Granny Godzilla

November 12th, 2010
3:01 pm

Georgia will beat Auburn with or without their mongoloid criminals!

SEC Analyst

November 12th, 2010
3:01 pm

Cam has every reason to love the Auburn family. After all, they were the only major program dumb enough to allow themselves to be used as his stepping-stone to the NFL Glory Land.

Atlanta Gator

November 12th, 2010
3:07 pm

AMG—-

The phrase is “press corps,” not “pres corp.” It is derived from the Norman French word “corps” (pronounced “core”; the “p” and “s” are silent) for “body.” The word “corps” is often used for military formations and other organizations, for instance, the U.S. Marine Corps, the White House press corps, the corps of cadets, etc.

As for your conspiracy theory that Urban Meyer was behind the alleged release of Cam Newton’s confidential student information as some sort of fit of jealousy, you really don’t understand what would be at stake. The University of Florida, as one of the ten largest public research universities in the country, would be jeopardizing its relationship with various government-sponsored research funding organizations. No one gets between the University of Florida and a research dollar—-no athlete, no coach, no dean, no university president. If Urban Meyer or any member of his staff were proven to have leaked confidential student information, he would be on the next charter flight back to Utah before the university general counsel could sign his termination notice.

If the stories about Cam Newton’s alleged academic irregularities at Florida are true, and have been reported accurately in the media, the more likely source would be one of his former teammates or fellow students, or even a “friend” who sold the story. No university employee in their right mind would ever touch this; it’s a career-ender. As in, “you will never work for a university or government agency ever again.”

Ethan

November 12th, 2010
3:09 pm

Auburn 49, Georgia 17. Another hopeless cause for the hapless dawgtards.

But wear your frilly red panties for luck, since you never know!

Thug!

November 12th, 2010
3:10 pm

Put an absolute dog at quarterback, then don’t be surprised when the whole team ends up with fleas.

Looks like little brother (Auburn) got tired of big brother (Bama) getting all the attention and the championships. Little brother got a little desperate.

lawzoo

November 12th, 2010
3:10 pm

The story within the story is why didn’t Mrs. State pay? Who is stealing the player’s fund?

Has the Starville Savings & Loan gone belly up?

Also how much did Clemson offer or was it too much to endure at any price?

Questions that need to be answered.

Monica

November 12th, 2010
3:12 pm

Thug – My words exactly. Thank you!

Atlanta Gator

November 12th, 2010
3:14 pm

Liti”Gator”—-

Of the high crimes and misdemeanors of Cameron Newton which you just listed, we only know one thing to be true with any certainty: he was found by campus police to be in possession of a stolen laptop. No official university source has confirmed Cam’s purported academic integrity issues, nor will any official source ever do so unless authorized by the former student in question or ordered to do so by a court of law. All of the allegations beyond Cam’s laptop problems are nothing more than gossip and hearsay at this point. Sometimes, gossip and hearsay are true; sometimes not. I guess we’re going to find out in this case.

T3

November 12th, 2010
3:15 pm

IF…and its mighty big IF…

If solid, documented proof emereges that it was
“Pay-for-PLay” with Cam Newton and his Father…

…Auburn fans are going to look like the biggest
collection of horses’ azzes this side of the Kentucky Derby.

Tick Tock Tick Tock…the clock of Truth continues the countdown.

Verlaine

November 12th, 2010
3:20 pm

Wound my heart with a monotonous languor.

J Clay

November 12th, 2010
3:21 pm

Why would they bench him now? If he ends up being inelligible they will FF all games…or look at it the other way – say he is deemed elligible but they sit him this weekend and they lose – they ruin their season….so play him either way

Atlanta Gator

November 12th, 2010
3:21 pm

T3—-

I don’t really see a lot of Auburn alumni or fans saying much of anything on this blog or anywhere else. Apart from the obvious blog poseurs, most Auburn fans seem to maintaining a fairly low profile right now. After all, what can they say? Auburn fans don’t know whether these allegations about Cam Newton are true or not, any more than you or I do.

egeagle

November 12th, 2010
3:21 pm

Even with the flames, not mere smoke, licking at AU’s backside, they must still rant against UGA. What sort of break is UGA receiving here? Uncertainty about the makeup of the team they face tomorrow? A fired up fanbase? A circle-the wagons mentality to further inspire AU? Georgia, where felons are gone and mesdemeanors get suspensions. Media inflates minor offenses to sordid levels, and hundreds of hits come as rival after rival pile on UGA. Why does anyone feel sorry for AU? The media bromance between the media and Laptop has been nauseating all season. Had he come to UGA, and I’m glad he and his sort don’t, then Aubies, Gators, Bammers, and all would be burying him and the school on far less background than this. Remember the vile things said about AJ Green, who was innocent of the original charge, but suspended 4 games for selling his jersey? And the Bama kid who WENT to Miami and received much more than a thousand dollars who only got two games? And the crowing of Ga’s rivals is never diminished when UGA is missing a pivotal player. Georgia is irrelevant, yet people take pages of text to tell us that they don’t matter. They’re not a rival, but a “brilliant” coach lifts teh suspension of a troubled player to winone of the biggest of his career.
I’m only a second tier Dawg fan, but hearing the hatred of other programs makes me want them to stick the garbage right back into the faces of the Dawghaters.

GT VET

November 12th, 2010
3:23 pm

Sounds to me like a bunch of crybabies…Im in NOWAY an Auburn fan,but everyone knows UF,LSU and Bama are the medias little darlins..(UGA is the AJCs)now Bradley wants Newton to sit out the Aub vs UGA game..LOL to funny..MOst of this stuff was known back in the summer,why NOW?? Because Auburn is making a run for the NC..Had Auburn already lost a game or 2,this would be yesterdays news.I also can pretty much bet you,Alabama has stoked the fire…Ive heard espn (better know as SEC sports news) yap over and over ..shouldnt a 1 loss Alabama team play for the NC before a Boise or TCU undefeated team get in..LOL how about a 2 loss Bama team?? or even 3..Good lord..Boise or TCU would spank any team in the SEC and Oregon KILLS any SEC team.Its like the SEC and espn think its their right to play for the NC every year.Talk ,talk yap, about the EC being the best conf.It getting OLD..Ye the SEC has (this year) 3 or 4 better than avg teams..In past years MAYBE 2.yea yea but ECs won 4 of last 5 NCs ,yea and look who they matches up against in the Bowl,team that didnt even win its Conf, team where the QB sat out and Tex still nearly won..If you idiots havent figured out its not about being the best ,its about MONEY..PERIOD!! and who has the most fans,and biggest stadiums,and travels with the most fans for the MONEY?? the SEC…..btw when will teams like Auburn,Florida,and Alabama EVER leave the south and go play somebody? ANYBODY??.Auburn has played outside of the south 3 times in 12 years,Alabama 2 times in 14 years,Florida 1 time in 20 YEARS!!!All 3’s record in those games….0-6…LOL..ohhh ok I know now why they wont leave …Cam Newton should be left alone..even without him Auburn beats uga…with him Auburn KILLs UGA…

Atlanta Gator

November 12th, 2010
3:23 pm

Verlaine—-

And, yes, I have seen the 1962 movie version of “The Longest Day.”

AJ Green

November 12th, 2010
3:27 pm

How much for a Cam Newton game jersey?

Cecil Newton

November 12th, 2010
3:28 pm

$180,000. It ain’t gonna be free this time baby!

Atlanta Gator

November 12th, 2010
3:28 pm

AJ—-

That depends on who wins on Saturday. Good luck.

Bobby Lowder / Pat Dye / Gene Chizik

November 12th, 2010
3:29 pm

BAMA dude

November 12th, 2010
3:30 pm

Heres a lighter view: Charles Barkley said the guy who only asked for 200k for Cam Newton should be fired for only asking for 200k. That’s some good stuff.

Atlanta Gator

November 12th, 2010
3:31 pm

GT VET—-

You may not have noticed, but the Florida Gators football team has played and beaten the Big Ten and Big XII champions in the last three seasons. And by pretty convincing margins, as I recall. Are those big enough out-of-conference opponents for you?

Justice is Served

November 12th, 2010
3:33 pm

Where there is smoke there is fire my friends …

What is Auburn smoking? … They are going to pay a higher price for ignorance. (USC has nothing on this).

What about those teams that got smoked by Newton? … Really, vacating wins. Auburn is at best a three-win team without Newton. This is a prime example where wins should be forfeited not vacated, and sooner rather than later. It would set a precedent, that if you cheat you don’t to get reap the rewards. And the other teams that you cheated will not be robbed.

What is Mississippi State smoking? … Nothing as far as I can tell. They follow proper channels and the SEC drops the ball. It wouldn’t surprise me to find out that the NCAA leaked the story to shake the tree for more evidence.

What was Slive smoking? … Don’t get this one. Was he hoping this would just go away? These are serious allegations that seemingly got nothing more than a glance over. They may or may not have gotten more than that, but in the court of public perception looks really bad. If that is true, it’s time for Slive to go.

What was Cecil Newton smoking? … Can’t blame him for wanting to get paid. Who doesn’t? But come on, you suppose to be a man of the cloth and you are shopping your son around like he is a piece of meat. You couldn’t wait two years for him to make it to the NFL?

What is Cam Newton smoking? … One has to feel a little sorry for the kid being shopped like that but rules are rules and he is the one that is going to have to pay the price.

T3

November 12th, 2010
3:33 pm

The NCAA simply amazes me……

The Reggie Bush “saga” got drawn out over almost 5 years when
everyone in the State of California…KNEW…Bush and Family
had taken HUUUUUUUUUUUUGE money in a blatant “Pay-for-Play”
arrangement.

Its time to simply disband the NCAA for a more ethical
and responsive organization for College Athletics, and return
control of College Sports finances back to the schools.

BAMA dude

November 12th, 2010
3:35 pm

Well, according to this, Cam is still on track to start tomorrow. Hot off the presses. Or the keyboard. Or something like that.

Cam Newton

November 12th, 2010
3:36 pm

Anybody out there need a laptop? I know a guy who can get you one cheap! Hardly used. Ignore the scrapes and dents. Took an unfortunate fall out of a window.

TallaDawg

November 12th, 2010
3:36 pm

I am sick of the excuse of “the schools and NCAA make money why can’t the players?” Because, those are the rules and you get an education and exposure in return for your effort. If you do not like the rules. Do not go to college; work out on your own for three years; and try to get drafted while remaining ignorant and uneducated. Most players realize that they are not going pro, and the education they are getting costs others tens or hundreds of thousands of dollars.

Atlanta Gator

November 12th, 2010
3:37 pm

BAMA dude—-

No surprise there. In for a dime, in for a dollar.

GT VET

November 12th, 2010
3:37 pm

LOL @ egeagle..your glad He ( Newton) and his sort didnt come to uga?? LOL now thats funny I dont care who you are,seeing his”sort” Does go to uga…13 arrests isnt it in what 6,7 months? Ohhh they werent felony charges..just a hit and run,nothing really bad huh…what if he had hit YOUR kid, or ANY kid,would it still be ok with you??You people make me sick and college sports (semi pro sports) is getting WAY outta hand,all for the MONEY.Its just precious how you pup fans stand behind your criminals uhmm I mean athletes.Yea Im a GT man and I have a good friend whos son plays for UGA( and plays ALOT) hes Never in trouble.If a kid for GT does anything like that ,and I dont care how good he is ,I say kick his butt off the team.This nonsense has got to stop ..

Rye

November 12th, 2010
3:37 pm

GT Vet,

UGA has just as many BCS wins as the entire ACC COMBINED!! Sit down and STFU!!!

SEC Analyst

November 12th, 2010
3:40 pm

Tech players can sell their jerseys all day long. The NCAA would only consider any funds illegally obtained from such a sale as petty larceny.

bates

November 12th, 2010
3:40 pm

I get why Auburn isn’t sitting him. The entire season is going to be vacated at this point if Newton is guilty, but I really think their defiance is going to be what does them in at the end.

Amused

November 12th, 2010
3:40 pm

No one has produced any evidence of anything. That so called interview in Dallas is crap. Other than Kenny Rogers, no other names were mentioned and he couldn’t “remember” details to save his life. You have no documentation, no recordings, etc. The timing of everything in the last two weeks stinks to high heaven. Auburn is absolutely correct to play him.

FREE COKES!! FREE HOT DOGS!!

November 12th, 2010
3:40 pm

I bought a Tech jersey for a quarter!!!!

Douglas Quaid

November 12th, 2010
3:41 pm

@Talladawg,

Most of the “student athletes” don’t even do their own homework. Its the SEC, they are in school for football, not Biology

MURPHY

November 12th, 2010
3:41 pm

BAMA dude,

AU all in. Cam will play the rest of the games unless the NCAA lowers the boom.Wouldnt do any good to stop the Cam train now.

TallaDawg

November 12th, 2010
3:42 pm

GT Vet-

You obviously have issues. And, all of the extra “LOLs” and “yeas” show your immature and ignorant perspective.

BAMA dude

November 12th, 2010
3:43 pm

Amused

November 12th, 2010
3:40 pm
No one has produced any evidence of anything. That so called interview in Dallas is crap. Other than Kenny Rogers, no other names were mentioned and he couldn’t “remember” details to save his life. You have no documentation, no recordings, etc.

That’s not necessarily true. Bill Bell says he knows that Cecil asked for money and that he already spoke to the NCAA. Also said that he forwarded a VM of some sort.

DIT

November 12th, 2010
3:44 pm

I bought a Tech jersey for a quarter!!!!

You’ve gotten taken to the cleaners my friend!

TallaDawg

November 12th, 2010
3:44 pm

Douglas Quaid – Maybe some of the “stars” are like that, but the vast majority of players are not. How many do you personally know?

GT VET

November 12th, 2010
3:44 pm

Atlanta Gator…In my hurried writing I fail to say, regular season…but either way where did Fla play those teams?I can assure you it wasnt AT the big ten ….

P. Bull Terrier

November 12th, 2010
3:44 pm

Has anyone stopped to ask WHY any school would have paid Cam Newton $180,000+ to transfer to their program? Remember, when he came out of high school, a lot of teams weren’t even interested in him at QB. When he was at FLA, he was burried on the depth chart and had problems following the rules. It’s not like everyone thought he was going to be a Heisman candidate back when he was looking to transfer. That came as a surprise to nearly everyone. This was a guy whose skill set didn’t fit a lot of programs, with a history of legal issues.

I’m not surprised a few teams were willing to take a chance on him, but it’s hard to imagine that he was in the position to spark a bidding war for his services.

@ Amused

November 12th, 2010
3:44 pm

Did you not even bother to read the very article you are posting on? Bill Bell is a name and he too has supported the same allegations. There are names all over the place. Just because you are an Auburn homer doesn’t mean you just ignore reality.

George

November 12th, 2010
3:45 pm

Southwest Conference Part II

BAMA dude

November 12th, 2010
3:46 pm

Actually, it would Murphy. This is gonna stink for the SEC. Just watch- he plays tomorrow and they clinch the West then he’s suspended before the Iron Bowl. What are the odds that Auburn wins the IB and SECCG without him? I say next to none, and even if they did the BCSCG would be ugly. Of course, some voters might pull them off the ballot in that case so TCU gets in. Who knows?

SEC Analyst

November 12th, 2010
3:48 pm

Tech gets some credit for losing in a wide variety of locations. They have to take pride in something.

MURPHY

November 12th, 2010
3:48 pm

I wanted a Reggie Ball jersey,but after 4 years of but whoopings from the Dawgs nothing was left of it. Maybe we can bid on Tech’s newest Heisman winner-Nesbitt LMAO

Beast from the East

November 12th, 2010
3:49 pm

GT Vet,
Ohio State in the BCSCG, Oklahoma in the BCSCG. I know that’s not as tough as Kansas on the road but it’s all we have to brag about. LOL!

Atlanta Gator

November 12th, 2010
3:50 pm

TallaDawg—-

There larger point is that most of the athletic programs of Division I schools are lucky to break even, let alone generate surplus funds. Most of that money is generated by football revenue, and in fewer instances, by basketball, and is used to support the other 20+ non-revenue sports. Hell, even a good gymnastics or lacrosse coach for a major program makes low six figures. Athletic scholarships are worth $25,0000+ in room, board, books and tuition per year at any major public university. Stadiums, coaches’ salaries, training facilities, equipment, support staff, medical costs, academic counselors . . . after paying those expenses, only a handful of the biggest programs have any money left over.

Frankly, the problem with giving these kids a $250 monthly stipend isn’t that Alabama, Florida, Georgia, Ohio State and Texas can’t afford it. It’s the bottom 90 of 120 Division I schools that can’t afford to do it for their football players, let alone all of their other athletes. Do the math.

elliot

November 12th, 2010
3:50 pm

P. Bull Terrier –

Hmmm…..Newton was the #2 nationally rated duel-threat QB coming out of high school that got a full ride to the most highly regarded program in the nation fresh off a national championship. What are you talking about???

BAMA dude

November 12th, 2010
3:50 pm

Interesting from AJC’s Schultz: “Spoke to buddy at Caesars today. They put Auburn-UGA game back up on board, and took it down again in AM amid rumors Cam Newton would sit.”

Beast from the East

November 12th, 2010
3:52 pm

Bama Dude,
Can you imagine if Auburn won out and then had to forfeit the games before the BCSCG? That would possibly hose LSU from a chance to play for the title. Yeah, it could be really bad for the SEC in more ways than one.

MURPHY

November 12th, 2010
3:52 pm

BAMA dude,

I suspect if they were going to sit him they would have already made that decision. I dont see that happening past this Sat.Just my opinion

elliot

November 12th, 2010
3:52 pm

GT Vet,

Your teams plays Samford, Troy, Gardner-Webb, J-Ville State and the Citadel on a regular basis. You truly have no room to judge anyone.

GT VET

November 12th, 2010
3:53 pm

Telladog…my issues are MY issues..and as a retired Navy vet,I will put as many LOL’s and yeas as I please,,,I think Ive earned that right…but I will say anyone that would even bring up lols and yeas,seems (and no doubt is) very immature and ignorant .Im guesing that the real reason for your childish comment is that you know what I said was the truth.

hahahahaha!!!!

November 12th, 2010
3:54 pm

@ elliot,

How funny is that!?!?!? All the barners are trying to rewrite history and pretend that Newton wasn’t one of the most sought after QB’s in the nation coming out of high school!!! If you let them tell it Newton was a walk-on at UF!!!!

DIT

November 12th, 2010
3:55 pm

Heck, It’s still all hearsay, let him play. They proved AJ sold his jersey. They have yet to prove, without a shadow of a doubt, that Cam’s dad took the money. This will suck if it comes out true, but for now there is no reason why he should not play.
I don’t think my Dawgs stand much of a chance tomorrow, but if he plays and somehow, the Dawgs pull it off, well I’d rather him be on the filed that not being their best player.

BAMA dude

November 12th, 2010
3:55 pm

MURPHY

November 12th, 2010
3:52 pm
BAMA dude,

I suspect if they were going to sit him they would have already made that decision. I dont see that happening past this Sat.Just my opinion

Don’t forget that Kenny sits down with the NCAA on Tuesday. They may very well make a “recommendation” after that.

hahahahaha!!!!

November 12th, 2010
3:55 pm

My dad is a REAL Navy vet and he wouldn’t get caught dead using “LOL’s”

MURPHY

November 12th, 2010
3:56 pm

Beast,

A Tech fan questioning UF schedule and program? WOW, This guy should be committed right now!!!

hahahahaha!!!!

November 12th, 2010
3:56 pm

Yeah, the money that was needed to renovate daddy Newton’s church just magically fell from the sky!!!

Beast from the East

November 12th, 2010
3:57 pm

GT VET,
I’m sure we would all agree that we appreciate your service to our country. That being said, no one playing in the ACC can really talk smack to any of the other BCS conferences. You guys have the worst record in BCS bowl games. That speaks volumes about the level of competition in your conference. Brag about basketball. You guys are tops in that sport. Football? Not so much.

serious question

November 12th, 2010
3:58 pm

Will Auburn get the death penalty once all this is finally documented and proven to be true?

MURPHY

November 12th, 2010
3:58 pm

BAMA dude,

The NCAA could recommend it,but will AU go through with it? That’s the question. Why I say this-They have gone all in for support of Cam-Will they or can they back off that position now?

Beast from the East

November 12th, 2010
3:58 pm

MURPHY,
Some people just hate a winner.

Jimmy

November 12th, 2010
3:59 pm

Jimmy thinks Elliot is right. Cam was highly sought after as a HS senior. I would think he was in a much better bargaining position at that point than he was coming out of Blinn. Florida probably paid $500,000 to get him in the first place. Now he is damaged goods and a bigger risk…so his asking price dropped to $200k.

I sure wish the NCAA would investigate Florida as well as Auburn…hell this kid’s highschool coach might have bought is lunch everyday to get him to play!

Jimmy thinks Bishop Newton and his kid seem a lot more like old Judas than Jesus. Guilty or not Cam will get his 30 more pieces of silver next year.

savannahdawg

November 12th, 2010
3:59 pm

Let’s ask Bo…………..Bo knows everything!!!!

get real

November 12th, 2010
3:59 pm

Auburn has one of the most corrupt, desperate, weaselly boosters in the nation that basically calls all the shots for the football program, and we’re supposed to believe this scumbag didn’t deal with Mr. Newton? Ha!!!

MURPHY

November 12th, 2010
3:59 pm

I dont believe the NCAA has the balls to give a SEC Football Program the death penalty.

Beast from the East

November 12th, 2010
4:00 pm

serious question,
I don’t think you’ll ever see the death penalty handed down by the NCAA again. The penalties would be crippling but not the death penaly.

BAMA dude

November 12th, 2010
4:00 pm

DIT

November 12th, 2010
3:55 pm
Heck, It’s still all hearsay, let him play. They proved AJ sold his jersey. They have yet to prove, without a shadow of a doubt, that Cam’s dad took the money.

1- They don’t have to prove anything with hard evidence. This isn’t a criminal proceeding, it is the NCAA. They have handed down sanctions based on testimony in the past.

2- For the two thousandth time, it matters not if Cam or Cecil got a dime regarding Cam’s eligibility. If they asked for money then Cam’s likely to be ineligible, if they asked somebody else to find money for them then he certainly is.

GT VET

November 12th, 2010
4:01 pm

@ beast of the east ..ok when was it when Fla. went to Oklahoma and OhioSt. and played..Im looking at past seasons and just cant seem to find when they did that….You and I both know they never have and wont…UGA ,Tenn and at times LSU are the only SEC schools that will leave the south to go play a big name school…

rbi

November 12th, 2010
4:02 pm

Regarding your statement:
This story has been going on for more than a week and there is not one allegation that Auburn has done anything wrong.
Correct me if I’m wrong, but didn’t Cameron Newton himself allegedly tell the Miss. State coaches that he would be going to Auburn, based on his father’s decision because “the money is just too much”? If that is the case, are we assuming that the tooth fairy gave the Newton’s the money or can we reasonably presume that it came from an Auburn booster?

BAMA dude

November 12th, 2010
4:02 pm

Beast from the East

November 12th, 2010
4:00 pm
serious question,
I don’t think you’ll ever see the death penalty handed down by the NCAA again. The penalties would be crippling but not the death penaly.

The death penalty is still available to second offenders. The statute of limitations is only five years though, so a school must have two majors within five years for this to be a possibility. Hopefully nobody is that stupid.

MURPHY

November 12th, 2010
4:02 pm

Lowder might get the death penalty-But not Auburn

Beast from the East

November 12th, 2010
4:02 pm

“I sure wish the NCAA would investigate Florida as well as Auburn”
Penis envy is unbecoming.

BAMA dude

November 12th, 2010
4:03 pm

You and I both know they never have and wont…UGA ,Tenn and at times LSU are the only SEC schools that will leave the south to go play a big name school…

Hmmm. I coulda sworn Happy Valley was in the North.

get real

November 12th, 2010
4:03 pm

GT Vet,

Tennessee goes all over the country to play. UGA has gone to Arizona and Colorado. LSU has recently played both Oregon schools. Bama is going to Penn St. next year. Ark. plays the Texas schools. Vandy even went to Michigan a couple of years ago. So really, what are you talking about?

What has Tech done? Notre Dame? Ha!!!

MURPHY

November 12th, 2010
4:04 pm

GT VET,

When does Tech leave the south to play a big name school? Kansas? Was that an away game? Thats a big time program?

Atlanta Gator

November 12th, 2010
4:05 pm

GT VET—-

I believe those two BCS championship games were played in the Fiesta Bowl in Arizona and Joe Robbie Stadium (or whatever the heck they’re calling it this season) in South Florida.

The real point is the Gators play an eight-game SEC schedule (nine SEC games, if they win their division), and then the play Florida State and three speed bumps. I would love it if the Gators would schedule home-and-away series with Michigan, Southern Cal, Texas, Virginia Tech, etc., but I understand why they don’t. Florida uses the extra home games to help pay for its $90,000,000 athletic budget, and frankly, nobody plays a tougher conference schedule. The extra home games against the three speed bumps pay the bills. The major Big XII schools, for instance, get to feast on Iowa State, Kansas, Kansas State, Baylor, Texas Tech and Missouri. Next year, the Gators get Alabama, LSU and Auburn in the regular season. There is no equivalent conference schedule outside the SEC.

UGA BCS wins = All of the ACC combined

November 12th, 2010
4:05 pm

BAMA dude

November 12th, 2010
4:05 pm

Murphy, to be fair Kansas had almost knocked off North Dakota State the week before. That was a big ‘un. 8)

Beast from the East

November 12th, 2010
4:05 pm

GT VET,
You are correct that UF does not travel to play out of conference games except for FSU. They don’t feel they need to. What’s to gain? They are one of the premier programs in the country and do not need to try and get “brand” recognition.

scott

November 12th, 2010
4:07 pm

Atl Gator,

How long has LSU been your annual SEC West opponent?

Beast from the East

November 12th, 2010
4:08 pm

Well said, AG!

BAMA dude

November 12th, 2010
4:08 pm

scott

November 12th, 2010
4:07 pm
Atl Gator,

How long has LSU been your annual SEC West opponent?

Since 1992 just like everybody else.

Beast from the East

November 12th, 2010
4:09 pm

Atlanta Gator,
You heading to Gainesville or watching it on the tube?

GT VET

November 12th, 2010
4:09 pm

hahahahahaha uhmmm grow up…btw Im not an ACC fan..IM a GT fan and could care less about the rest of the ACC..Yes GT does have its share of cupcakes,and I wish they would drop them and play ALL BCS schools….Any team that REALLY wants to play for the National Championship,should all agree to play 8 conf. games,then have the NCAA pick 2 teams (BCS) or Div 1 for them to play.Top 8 teams then have a playoff for NC..

Atlanta Gator

November 12th, 2010
4:10 pm

“Florida probably paid $500,000 to get him in the first place. Now he is damaged goods and a bigger risk…so his asking price dropped to $200k. . . . I sure wish the NCAA would investigate Florida as well as Auburn…hell this kid’s highschool coach might have bought is lunch everyday to get him to play!”

Uh, Jimmy, the Gators have been there, done that, and got the t-shirt. And had to give back the first SEC football championship in school history in 1984-1985. The University of Florid learned it lesson, and it has one of the toughest in-house NCAA compliance programs in the country. It also has the second highest graduation rate in the SEC for football players.

Learn not to burn, my friend.

hahahahaha!!!!

November 12th, 2010
4:10 pm

After both GT and UGA lost to their respective Big 12 opponents this year everyone started arguing which Big 12 team was actually the “more respectable.”

I just looked it up. They both have the same exact record and Kansas squeaked out a win over Colorado last weekend at home 52-45. Is it a push? LOL!!!

MURPHY

November 12th, 2010
4:11 pm

BAMA dude,

How careless of me. I certainly apologize to the Tech nation for not remembering that TOUGH NORTH DAKOTA ST GAME-Im sure that took alot out of those Kansas boys before the match up with Tech!

scott

November 12th, 2010
4:12 pm

Bama Dude,

Good point. I guess I worded my question wrong. Because UGA has played Auburn every year….forever. Just curious if UF was doing that as well with LSU even before the creation of the divisions.

BAMA dude

November 12th, 2010
4:13 pm

Tech nation? Ain’t it more like a village? Except more like a ghetto village instead of one on “plains” that aren’t really plains like API claims to be on?

Beast from the East

November 12th, 2010
4:15 pm

scott,
UF played Auburn every year until the conference expanded and went to a divisional format. Then we were assigned LSU as our permanent SEC West foe.

hahahahaha!!!!

November 12th, 2010
4:15 pm

GT Vet –

You are telling me to grow up yet you don’t even know the most elementary of social perception rules? YOU ARE THE COMPANY THAT YOU KEEP!!!! If you care for Tech at all then you should dang well pull for and wish the rest of their conference was up to snuff. Even if the ACC does ever again get one good team it’ll take years for them to get noticed since they are stuck being around the dreads of college football!!

GT VET

November 12th, 2010
4:16 pm

get real Im pretty sure I posted that UGA ,Tenn and LSU all left the south to play around the Country..try reading a bit…..MURPHY…goona bring up Kansas huh?? Yea that was a bad loss for GT but Im sure that same Kansas team that beat GT ,beat Colorado too (hung like 52pts on them)..You remember Colorado dont ya???

BAMA dude

November 12th, 2010
4:16 pm

Latest from Joe Schad: Kenny Rogers’ attorney says his client “may have spoken with” Auburn coaches but “not about Cam Newton.”

The fire is gettin closer and closer to that Barn.

Jimmy

November 12th, 2010
4:16 pm

@ Beast from the East

Jimmy doesn’t trust Urban Meyer as far as he could throw him. That guy is a snake oil salesman that will do anything to win. See Also Chris Rainey. Mettenberger grabbed a who-hah or two and got dismissed from the team. Rainey threatened to kill a woman and was back on the field after 4 or 5 games. Jimmy loves how everyone thinks Richt is too soft and Meyer gets a pass. Almost every year a Gator player does something egregious…but nobody gets thrown off the team. Apparently you can get caught cheating 3 times AND steal a laptop and STILL be allowed to leave on your own. Meanwhile the Dawgs get all the Fulmer Cup publicity because our idiots can’t pay traffic tickets…or stealing a $15 helmet left sitting outside a building unattended.

Jimmy says Good Show Urban…your morals are right up there with Cecil Newton’s.

Expecting a level playing field is not Penis Envy you effing donkey.

DIT

November 12th, 2010
4:16 pm

In my opinion it does not matter if your an Auburn fan or not. We all have to agree that this is just bad for College football, particularly the SEC if this comes out to be true. We all know how corrupt Pro Sports are. If college foorball becomes just as bad then College basketball is right behind it. That would stink because based on the majority of the posts here I would say that most people prefer college sports over pro’s. If I’m wrong I’m wrong, but the last form of pure athletics is going down the Johnny flusher quickly.
Looks as if the SEC will need a “Babe Ruth” to clean college football. I just hope that it can be a Bulldog!!! One can dream!
Let’s just hope that it’s nothing but a bad rumor!

Atlanta Gator

November 12th, 2010
4:17 pm

scott—-

Actually, LSU has been one of the Gators annual rivals continuously since 1971. Auburn was formerly an annual rival, too, every year from 1945 to 2002. Sad the annual AU-UF game became one for the SEC rotating games, but nothing lasts forever.

BAMA dude—-

Thanks for playing.

= )

scott

November 12th, 2010
4:17 pm

Thanks Beast!! I actually totally forgot that you guys used to play Auburn all the time too.

vietvet

November 12th, 2010
4:17 pm

what is a camnewton anyway? are they like fignewtons

GT VET

November 12th, 2010
4:18 pm

hahahahaha ,had nothing to do with the ACC ,GT,SEC or anything really other than you making a remark about my 23 years in the Military…soo yes Grow up

scott

November 12th, 2010
4:19 pm

“not about Cam Newtwon???”

LOL, riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight!!!!!

Atlanta Gator

November 12th, 2010
4:20 pm

Beast—-

Times are tough. I’ll be watching from the modestly appointed accommodations of my living room (or the nearest neighborhood tavern with a television).

hahahahaha!!!!

November 12th, 2010
4:21 pm

Nope, my remark was about MY father and what he wouldn’t get caught dead doing!!

BAMA dude

November 12th, 2010
4:21 pm

Well this could be the big one folks. Five minutes ago from Charles Robinson @ yahoo sports: NCAA has made Auburn aware of potential eligibility issue. Now Auburn decides whether to risk playing him. Their risk.

Or it could be nothing again. The NYT re-tweeted this too.

BAMA dude

November 12th, 2010
4:22 pm

BAMA dude—-

Thanks for playing.

= )
Atlanta Gator

Do I get a parting gift?

Atlanta Gator

November 12th, 2010
4:22 pm

vietvet—-

Sort of like that, but different. The camnewtons are not as sweet and fruity, but they cost a lot more than the fignewtons.

Oops. I made a joke about a serious matter. Sorry.

Beast from the East

November 12th, 2010
4:23 pm

Jimmy,
Do some research before you just spout off. Urban has dismissed a number of players for off the field issues. Most of us disagreed with his decision to reinstate Rainey, but the decision was made with the support of the AD and President.
You continue to show serious signs of envy. Aren’t too worried about what Vandy or Kentucky do with their off the field issues, are you? I’m sure you could care less about Urban’s discipline decisions if your team could compete with ours on the field. Isn’t that where this really comes from? Thought so!

BAMA dude

November 12th, 2010
4:23 pm

Twitter is blowing up with that message in my 4:21 now. It’s everywhere.

Atlanta Gator

November 12th, 2010
4:24 pm

BAMA dude—

Only if you stop interrupting the host. It’s never good to interrupt Alex Trebek on his own show.

GT VET

November 12th, 2010
4:24 pm

Right…you said he was a “REAL” Navy veteran,implying that I wasnt?…But you know putting LOL on a post is a terrible thing I agree…Good Lord…Have a nice day!!

Vortex

November 12th, 2010
4:24 pm

GT Vet,

Yes, Kansas barely beat a Colorado team at home who is without their coach and can’t decide on a QB to save their life. Not sure I’d really be bragging about that. Btw, they still managed to hang 45 on the Gayhawks in their backyard. Btw, Kansas has only broken 20 points 3 times this year. I guess you can assume which one of those 3 came against.

coach joe

November 12th, 2010
4:25 pm

Tiger bait.. Beat Auburn..Alabama beat Auburn.. LSU goes to Atlanta. LSU goes to title game.

Tiger bait..

Beast from the East

November 12th, 2010
4:25 pm

Atlanta Gator,
With a little luck, the Gators will be coming to US in a few weeks!
Keep your fingers crossed that the offense shows up Saturday.
Go Gators!

hahahahaha!!!!

November 12th, 2010
4:25 pm

Oh lighten up Vet!!! Don’t begin your weekend being in a pi$$y mood!!

hahahahaha!!!!

November 12th, 2010
4:26 pm

MURPHY

November 12th, 2010
4:26 pm

GT VET,

Yes,I do remember Colorado-Point taken. I will take back the Kansas thing.

grrrrrr.......

November 12th, 2010
4:27 pm

As badly as I want to keep the streak alive against Auburn and end the season on a good note, I don’t think I could stand seeing LSU yet again backing into a title game. How much luck can one program have?!?!?!?!

Atlanta Gator

November 12th, 2010
4:27 pm

Jimmy—-

It will cost you a fifteen-yard blog penalty for unnecessary obnoxiousness from the blog referee if you don’t stop referring to yourself in the third-person.

Jimmy

November 12th, 2010
4:28 pm

Jimmy hates Florida…that is all there is too it. His hatred has to do with Florida fans, the Gator Chomp, and the types of shorts they choose to wear.

No envy…just hatred. Simple.

Does that influence the fact that Jimmy believes that Florida bought Newton the first time around? Possibly. It doesn’t infuence whether or not it actually happened though!

If Newton got paid, Auburn will fall hard…but Florida will fall harder. Jimmy would relish watching the fall.

BAMA dude

November 12th, 2010
4:28 pm

grrrrrr…….

November 12th, 2010
4:27 pm
As badly as I want to keep the streak alive against Auburn and end the season on a good note, I don’t think I could stand seeing LSU yet again backing into a title game. How much luck can one program have?!?!?!?!

They just beat Bama and still have to go on the road to Arkansas before Atlants. If they win out they haven’t backed into anything imo.

grrrrrr.......

November 12th, 2010
4:28 pm

Bama Dude,

You think the tweet is legit?

Beast from the East

November 12th, 2010
4:30 pm

Jimmy’s gonna blow out a knee. I’ve seen if before.

grrrrrr.......

November 12th, 2010
4:30 pm

By “backing in” I mean getting a LOT of help and not being in control of their own destiny. Ask West Virgina if LSU is lucky or not, lol!!

MURPHY

November 12th, 2010
4:30 pm

Atlanta Gator,

Jimmy has a concussion-forgive him.

Atlanta Gator

November 12th, 2010
4:30 pm

Beast—-

Even if the Gators’ first-string offense shows up, Urban and the kids will still have to deal with the return of the Evil Genius. Nobody schemes “pride” games better than SOS.

Beast from the East

November 12th, 2010
4:30 pm

Typo….I’ve seen “it” before.

Timmy

November 12th, 2010
4:31 pm

Tim-mah!!!!!!!

Atlanta Gator

November 12th, 2010
4:31 pm

MURPH—-

Not so subtle, but nicely played nevertheless.

BAMA dude

November 12th, 2010
4:32 pm

grrrrrr…….

November 12th, 2010
4:28 pm
Bama Dude,

You think the tweet is legit?

Every major outlet that has been following this story has re-tweeted it now. ESPN, Finebaum, etc. Yahoo Sports has been pretty darn credible recently.

Beast from the East

November 12th, 2010
4:32 pm

AG,
Yeah, it should be a great game. I suspect it will come down to the final minutes. I’m excited we still have anything to play for other than a second tier bowl game. Would you have ever believed we’d still have a shot with 3 consecutive losses? What a crazy season it’s been!

Jimmy

November 12th, 2010
4:33 pm

Jimmy is just fine Murph…he is right here with you today Oct 22nd 2006.

What?

bort

November 12th, 2010
4:33 pm

Auburn is playing Newton. If they are going to go out, they are going to out swinging. I think they know the bottom is going to fall out regardless if they sit him or not.

MURPHY

November 12th, 2010
4:33 pm

Beast and ATL Gator,

I get to see in person Spurrier work his magic tommorrow in the Swamp.I wish you guys the best but I wouldnt bet against the EVIL ONE !

Einsteindawg

November 12th, 2010
4:34 pm

The NCAA needs to investigate the SEC as this has been going on for a long time. Maybe, the NCAA needs to be investigated, too, as they have condoned this type of activity as long as it makes BIG MONEY.

UGA2002

November 12th, 2010
4:34 pm

Very good article Tony, very good.

Beast from the East

November 12th, 2010
4:35 pm

MURPHY,
Nor would I. He’s pulled a rabiit out of his hat on more than one occassion. Expect a nail-biter.

Ghost of Johnnie Cochran

November 12th, 2010
4:36 pm

This isn’t funny;
My client took no money.

He plays for school pride;
He has nothing to hide.

When he’s on the field he can’t be stopped;
Hey, has anyone seen my laptop?

Cam is just like his dad, the apple doesn’t fall far;
There goes Cecil now driving his new car.

These are all rumors so let’s not be rash;
You want to convict, show me the cash!

Atlanta Gator

November 12th, 2010
4:38 pm

MURPH—-

As one sports writer said about Spurrier after he led the Gators to a fourth-quarter come-from-behind win over FSU in 1966, if SOS were blindfolded, bound and facing a firing squad, I would take Spurrier and the points.

He was good then, and he still is now. He just had a better quarterback in ‘66.

UGA2002

November 12th, 2010
4:38 pm

bort
November 12th, 2010
4:33 pm

Auburn is playing Newton. If they are going to go out, they are going to out swinging. I think they know the bottom is going to fall out regardless if they sit him or not.
——-
Or they know more than the rest of us. Keep that in mind.

I think State’s coach is off to Colorado to enjoy life in the spread Pac 10 and State is about to get in serious trouble.

Then in 5 years we’ll all go see the Cam Newton Story at the movies and hopefully it will be about a kid who stood against the media feeding frenzy and won the Heisman and NC. All in, good luck Auburn.

Wow, you know who benefits from this the most? CMR. Everybody is ignoring Grantham and Richt this past week. Very lucky for them long term.

GT VET

November 12th, 2010
4:39 pm

Not a problem MURPHY…and Vortex I was in NO way bragging about GT,or putting down UGA,…just replying to a post about how bad GT was against Kansas…doent matter though if Kanas beat Colorado by 20 or 1.fact still remains,KU won over Colorado and GT..but then again I never make excuses (vortex) for my team….Have a GREAT weekend everyone…and my weekend will be fine hahahahahaha,I dont get real upset over sports,but do over the Idiots running this Country…Im just trying to decide if to Flyfish the Taccoa,or deer hunt this weekend,either way,Im gonna have a great time..GO JACKETS!!!

BAMA dude

November 12th, 2010
4:40 pm

UGA2002, if they still play him after the NCAA has apparently informed them of an eligibilty issue they could be looking at a major violation. It would rank among the dumbest decisions I’ve seen in sports.

Beast from the East

November 12th, 2010
4:41 pm

GT VET,
You have a great weekend and don’t catch ‘em all.

Atlanta Gator

November 12th, 2010
4:41 pm

Jimmy—-

It’s good to see you still have your sense of humor.

Now, take your medicine.

MURPHY

November 12th, 2010
4:41 pm

This Dawg fan will never bet against Spurrier. One game win it all for the SEC East-my money is on the Evil one.

MURPHY

November 12th, 2010
4:43 pm

Ok guys-gotta go-Big High School game tonight! Good luck Atl Gtr-Beast. GT Vet-hope yall do well agaist Miami. BAMA dude-I hope to Cam against my Dawgs-but it dont look good-I can see your grin from here! Roll Tide

bort

November 12th, 2010
4:44 pm

Yep, ESPN now reporting that Auburn has “no comment” on if Newton will play tomorrow or not. Looks like it’s finally hit the fan.

Atlanta Gator

November 12th, 2010
4:45 pm

You’re a good sport, MURPH. Good luck to your Dawgs tomorrow.

bort

November 12th, 2010
4:47 pm

UGA2002,

Doesn’t appear to be the case. Auburn was kneejerk reacting angrily and bitter since they got caught. Their own arrogance will be their downfall with this. Just too many smoking guns involved with all this for it to be a made-up hit piece.

Beast from the East

November 12th, 2010
4:49 pm

MURPHY,
Have fun in the Swamp and don’t let the Gator get ya!

Georgia Gator

November 12th, 2010
4:54 pm

IF..IF…IF…IF… Enough already. Just play some football!!!!!

BAMA dude

November 12th, 2010
4:57 pm

Later Murphy

SEC Analyst

November 12th, 2010
4:58 pm

SEC Analyst thinks Jimmy is a pretty cool Dawg fan. SEC Analyst also thinks that he remembers seeing Jimmy on this blog (now & then) for many years. Then again, SEC Analyst is old, and his memory isn’t quite what it once was.

jomps

November 12th, 2010
5:07 pm

Auburn is a JOKE! This kid is a liar, cheat and criminal….that is an undisputed and proven fact. Might be good at “carrying and throwing the rock” but I am sure glad he is not representing my University. Good luck to the idiots on the plains.

SEC Analyst

November 12th, 2010
5:12 pm

There are probably some gamblers (or statisticians [same difference?]) here on this blog? What are the odds that this incident will end well for Auburn University?

I tried to visualize it metaphorically as a football game:

With 15 seconds left on the game clock in the Fourth Quarter, the opposing team just kicked a FG to go ahead 28-12. It’s time for one of those rare miracles. If your team can run the kickoff back for a quick TD, go for 2 and make it, recover an onside kick for another quick TD and 2 point PAT, then you can get the game into OT. Of course, you’ve got 12 points right now because you failed to get the 2 point conversion on both of your previous TD’s.

That’s about where I see Auburn right now — but they have 2 time-outs left.

SEC Analyst

November 12th, 2010
5:16 pm

But… I mean…

It’s posiible, right?

SEC Analyst

November 12th, 2010
5:17 pm

BULLDAWG BILL

November 12th, 2010
5:17 pm

Someone at the SEC or the NCAA should look into Newton’s traffic violations in Gainesville, FL. He had over 8 traffic tickets and paid only a $125 fine for one of them. It sure looks like ticket fixing to me. I’ll bet no other university of FL student got this kink of treatment! Go to the Alachua County, FL Clerk of the Court web site and see for yourself.

northern sympathizer

November 12th, 2010
5:17 pm

I can’t help but feel a little sorry for Auburn fans through this. Even though they may beet Ga. like a drum tomorrow. It seems like they can’t get a break to win a championship.

Auburn_Cheetahs

November 12th, 2010
5:27 pm

Were behind $cam Newton all the way

Minister Farakan

November 12th, 2010
5:28 pm

More propagnda by the WHite Man.

SEC Analyst

November 12th, 2010
5:31 pm

@serious question

November 12th, 2010
3:58 pm

Will Auburn get the death penalty once all this is finally documented and proven to be true?

No. They are not within a window of time within which another major violation has occurred that could trigger an absolute shut-down of the football program.

@grrrrrr…….

November 12th, 2010
4:27 pm

As badly as I want to keep the streak alive against Auburn and end the season on a good note, I don’t think I could stand seeing LSU yet again backing into a title game. How much luck can one program have?!?!?!?!

It is actually possible, if Georgia defeats Auburn, for Alabama to play in the SECCG game. LSU would have to lose to Arkansas, and Alabama would also have to defeat Auburn.

In such a three-way tie, Alabama would supersede Auburn via head-to-head competition, and they would supersede LSU due to having less Western Division losses.

BAMA dude

November 12th, 2010
5:31 pm

Well, I’m outta here folks. I’m going out on a limb and saying that Cam sits tomorrow. Auburn has no obligation to say a word either way, and they aren’t. If it is true as it appears to be that the NCAA has given them a heads up about his eligibility then I can’t imagine them trotting him out there. Later all.

SEC Analyst

November 12th, 2010
5:33 pm

WWVD

What will Vegas do?

DAWG in TX

November 12th, 2010
5:46 pm

Paid or not paid, too early to tell…..especially with the NCAA investigating. This could go on for years to get to the real story! Ironic that this comes out now when Auburn/Cam is high profile. Just play football. Go Dawgs!

Bamalaw

November 12th, 2010
5:49 pm

Tony, you are assuming that Auburn’s staff didn’t know about this to begin with. Remember what happened with Pat Dye and the crew he had working for him. Well, since getting rid of Tubs, Coach Dye and his crowd have been returned to positions of prominence. Chizik wasn’t a popular hire and Jay Jacobs needs him to succeed quick. To me, this looks like a rerun of Mike Dubose and his crew who were desperate to win quick, regardless of the red flags. That nonsense cost us almost a decade of irrelevance. I have 2 questions that I hope you can help answer. 1. Did the SEC warn the 11 other schools that Newton was being shopped around? 2. If not, why not? If the answer to the first question is yes, then you need to ask Auburn why they ran through the caution lights. As for trying to put Cams eligibility on the NCAA, how are they to give an answer when the case is in dispute and a cover up appears to be underway. AJ Green and Marcel Dareus were cases where the facts were admitted and presented to the NCAA for adjudication regarding eligibility. According to Auburn, theres nothing to adjudicate. Believe them if you want to, but I doubt if the NCAA will.

SEC Analyst

November 12th, 2010
5:52 pm

Slive discusses Cam Newton with Birmingham News

SEC Commissioner Mike Slive said the conference has not recommended to Auburn whether to play or sit Cam Newton tomorrow amid allegations about his recruitment to Mississippi State.

“The only thing we made clear is a decision about his eligibility is a decision that has to be made by the institution,” said Slive, adding he is uncertain how the NCAA might interpret a case he says could be unprecedented in how it’s playing out.

http://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2010/11/slive_discusses_cam_newton_cas.html

DAWG in TX

November 12th, 2010
5:52 pm

He will be playing tomorrow. Hopefully, Kharma IS a B@#CH!

Reggie

November 12th, 2010
5:59 pm

Tony,
What do you think about the Richt to Miami rumors? Anyway Richt leaves Athens for Miami and if he is interested does UGA step up and do all that they can to keep CMR?

SEC Analyst

November 12th, 2010
6:00 pm

In plain English:

Whenever Auburn says that Cam is eligible, what they mean is not that the NCAA or the SEC has pronounced him eligible, but that Auburn University is pronouncing him eligible — nothing more nor less.

SEC Analyst

November 12th, 2010
6:03 pm

I’m not Tony, but…

If Coach Richt goes to Miami, I suspect that Georgia will be most interested in minimizing the cost of his leaving and beginning to interview the coaches on their short list.

Or were you merely being sarcastic? ;-)

SEC Analyst

November 12th, 2010
6:06 pm

I wonder who is on the list?

KR

November 12th, 2010
6:09 pm

Let’s try a different but related topic.

Suppose Newton plays tomorrow and Auburn wins. Do you really think Auburn is going to maintain their #2 rank in the BCS poll?

Personally, I think the voters are going to start taking their votes away from Auburn and putting them somewhere else, based on the uncertainty of this mess.

SEC Analyst

November 12th, 2010
6:12 pm

@KR

I’d say that some will, and some won’t. Look for the most movement in the Harris Poll.

SEC Analyst

November 12th, 2010
6:14 pm

It will also depend somewhat on how the other top-10 teams play. Some voters are probably going to be looking for excuses to change their vote and not have to admit that this soap opera has anything to do with it.

catlady

November 12th, 2010
6:16 pm

Critical mass…or critical mess?

[...] you follow college football, or even if you don’t, you’ve probably heard of Cam Newton, the star quarterback for #2 Auburn. Controversy has stuck to him lately like gum underneath a table.  His agent and father are [...]

1eyedJack

November 12th, 2010
6:20 pm

All this fuss over what some drunken washed up country singer says? You people have got to quit believing what celebrities tell you.

Then again both Kenny Rogers and Cam Newton both used to live in Georgia so there is that.

cam in TROUBLE

November 12th, 2010
6:30 pm

NCAA asked Auburn to sit him, Auburn has moved from “cam will start” to “No comment”.

SEC Analyst

November 12th, 2010
6:41 pm

The NCAA might advise Auburn of possible outcomes of their investigation, but they will not order Auburn to suspend Cam Newton. The investigation is not completed. That is what Slive was referring to when he said “established facts”.

NCAA Watch Dog

November 12th, 2010
6:44 pm

Cecil: Can Cam play?
MSU: Cam can!!
Cecil: Cam can for $180k
MSU: Cam can’t.
Cecil: Can Cam play at AU?
AU: Cam can!!
Cecil: Cam can for $200k.
NCAA: Can Cam!!!!!

SEC Analyst

November 12th, 2010
6:50 pm

Very Seussian NWD.

JRW7

November 12th, 2010
6:59 pm

The parties over at AUBURN!! The end is near!! Cam Scam!!!

SEC Analyst

November 12th, 2010
7:04 pm

There’s ALWAYS a party over at Auburn. At least, I know there was back in the 1970’s.

Oh… Never mind. I just had one of those Eats Shoots and Leaves moments.

SEC Soap Opera

November 12th, 2010
7:17 pm

`

SEC Suspense is around the corner.

SEC Soap Opera

November 12th, 2010
7:21 pm

TOOMER’S CORNER ,
…………………………………….THAT IS.

SEC Analyst

November 12th, 2010
7:44 pm

Ironic that the very media outlets whose revenue provides the money that is the root of these problems in NCAA sports are currently reaping windfall profits by covering the events as they unfold.

Don’t you think?

Things that make you go Hmmm…

Bo Jackson

November 12th, 2010
7:59 pm

Cam will be playing tomorrow! It’s very improtant to the school that we play in the SEC Championship Game. See you in Atlanta.

SEC Analyst

November 12th, 2010
8:37 pm

Hey Bo. When you get to that last exit, be sure not to go the wrong way.

;-)

King Gator

November 12th, 2010
9:14 pm

Georgia recruited him as a TE??? Isn’t that some type of NCAA or at least SEC violation? Go Gators!

catlady

November 12th, 2010
9:29 pm

Cam Newton: Auburn’s Nathan Deal.

UGA

November 12th, 2010
10:58 pm

UGA fans don’t want Cam to play because they are scared…what a joke.

college football

November 12th, 2010
11:00 pm

Enter your comments here

college football

November 12th, 2010
11:07 pm

There is a smelly stench coming out of the village and their trying to cover it up with a smeller one. The NCAA needs to hammer some people over this and try…just try and bring some inregrity back to these idiots…where VICTORY at any cost is all they want.

where's herschell?

November 12th, 2010
11:28 pm

wishful thinking dawg fans . you nadlickers are going to get the s__t kicked out of you tomorrow. then your whole season will rest on beating tech. what happened to your dynasty??

Reggie

November 12th, 2010
11:29 pm

Not being sarcastic at all SEC–Lots of Rumors about Miami wanting Richt. I for one don’t want to see Coach Richt leave.

Captain Jim

November 13th, 2010
12:25 am

The FBI is involved because Federal laws have been violated. When Cecil and Rogers asked Miss St. for money to sign Cam that is Extortion. When Cecil admitted earlier this afternoon he indeed did talk money with Rogers and Miss State well Cam is now ineligible because of that statement. Cecil said neither Cam nor his wife knew about it but it does not matter Cecil just ended Cam’s college career. Cecil also just admitted to Extortion and if he talked with Rogers and Miss State officials about this over the phone or sent text messages that is wire fraud on top of it. Cecil will now have to come clean with the Feds about AU or face Federal Jail Time. Sorry AU fans but Cam will not be playing tomorrow.

Dennis

November 13th, 2010
5:43 am

Do you know why Cam ? Answer: because 200,000 wouldn’t fit on the jersey.

Jimmy the Greek

November 13th, 2010
7:24 am

Hey Tony,

Did you give up the fearless Friday forecast because you have been soooooooooooooo wrong?

BUZZ ME

November 13th, 2010
7:26 am

Catlady has a point.

NoAxeToGrind

November 13th, 2010
7:41 am

What will be even more interesting from the UGA fans’ point of view is the question of what UGA fans will think, if Newton sits the game out, and then Richt still loses. That will be interesting to find out.

SEC Analyst

November 13th, 2010
7:50 am

@Reggie

I understand that the possibility for Richt going to Miami is very real. Would you really want to keep him at Georgia by making him a financial offer that’s just too much to turn down? Richt is not really in a position to feign interest in the Miami job simply to bargain for a salary increase. If he and Miami have a mutual interest in one another, then I’d just make sure that Miami foots the bill for terminating his contract with UGA and let him go. Who do you think is on the short list at Georgia?

SEC Analyst

November 13th, 2010
7:51 am

Dan Mullen probably got scratched off this week.

SEC Analyst

November 13th, 2010
7:52 am

Mike Shula is a really nice guy.

Half century Dawg

November 13th, 2010
7:53 am

This is one DAWG fan that hope Cam plays, I want Auburn at there best so there are no excuses when we WHOOP THAT A$$. Timeto Hunker Down, Go DAWGS!!!!

Oregon Duck Fan

November 13th, 2010
8:04 am

Cam Newton deserves the Heisman, and will continue to until something concrete is discovered. I would hate to see an Oregon (or Boise State) player win the award for an off field issue.

My sympathies for Auburn football fans.

Reggie

November 13th, 2010
8:32 am

SEC, believe it or not–I believe that we should increase Richt’s salary. I think the AD should come out and say–”RIcht’s our man” and point out his resume, youth, talent, experience and vision. To me it would be the height of foolishness and shortsightedness to fire CMR. I don’t think the “likely candidates” that folks talk about would be on the short list at all. Someone we don’t expect.

SEC Analyst

November 13th, 2010
8:38 am

@Oregon Duck Fan

Duck fans all seem very confident that Oregon will finish this season undefeated. I read somewhere that your backup QB was out for the season with a knee injury. If your starting QB were to be injured, you would now be reliant upon two freshmen to step in due to the loss of Masoli, wouldn’t you? I’m not wishing any bad luck on the Ducks. I always hate to see any player injured, but this could definitely be an Achilles Heel for the Ducks as they finish the regular season, couldn’t it?

SEC Analyst

November 13th, 2010
8:47 am

@Reggie

I don’t know what his current salary is, but you wouldn’t exactly be firing Coach Richt if he chose to go to Miami. Offering a pay raise is not the same thing as getting into a bidding war. I’ve heard the arguments that there are no good candidates to replace Coach Richt, but he can’t stay at Georgia forever. He’s not really that young anymore. He is just about at the right age to make one final move in his coaching career before he retires.

Reminds me of an old Neil Young song: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DlWbPrK_Ir4

Old enough to repaint, but young enough to sell…

Reggie

November 13th, 2010
10:53 am

SEC, You and I know that CMR has expressed his desire to complete his career in Athens. I really do not think that many so called UGA fans realize what a treasure we have in Richt. And I mean that in every way. He is a proven winner. He represents the University well. Graduates who played for Richt all sing his praises. Many in the NFL say that they learned about being a leader from CMR. I would be sick at my stomach if Richt is pressured out of UGA. I loved Vince Dooley. I disagreed with Adams firing him as AD. But I think that CMR is the finest coach in the history of Georgia football. There will be no shortage of schools that want Richt–Colorado, Miami, Penn State just to name a few are rumored to be interested. I hope that Adams will play the man, step up to the plate and support our coach. Let fans do the same.

Reggie

November 13th, 2010
10:54 am

By the way SEC, love your Neil Young analogy. Cool.

NCAA CRITIC

November 13th, 2010
11:41 am

Maybe the NCAA should critique their mandatory certification process for athletes they make athletes/coaches watch everytime they compete in any NCAA certified event. They fall short in this area as what this young man is now facing. I could go on and on. No need because they don’t get it.

Tide Rising

November 13th, 2010
12:03 pm

Oregon Duck Fan,

Does Cam deserve the Heisman? I don’t think there is any question that he is probably the single best player in college football this year and is certainly more important to his team than other other player in college football is to their team. Without him AU is a middle of the pack 8-4 team. Even AU fans wouldn’t argue that.

But I just don’t see him getting it regardless of the outcome of Camgate. Too much ugliness. Its not just the pay for play and now the latest info coming from WSB that father Cecil now admits to asking for money from Miss St.

Its also the fact that the kid’s record of 3 time alleged academic fraud at UF and imminent expulsion by a student committe shows him to be a very low character kid. The laptop thing we all know about already. Regardless of the outcome of pay for play this guy and his dad just look like people completely lacking in character. And don’t think the voters haven’t noticed that. .

Glory Glory

November 13th, 2010
3:10 pm

What happened to your honey bees today, NERDS??????

Cam Newton Roundup « Les Miles Is A Genius

November 13th, 2010
3:27 pm

[...] Journal and Constitution‘s Tony Barnhart provides a tidy summary of all the news up until yesterday [...]

bob

November 13th, 2010
3:33 pm

Your the one reporting about Tony, not your readers.

SEC Analyst

November 13th, 2010
5:42 pm

Interesting:

GA 21-AU 21 @1/2
TCU 27 – SC ST 14 2nd Q
PSU 14 – OSU 3 3rd Q
ND 28 – UTAH 3 4th Q
OK 38 – TX TECH 7 @ 1/2
NC 10 – VT @ 1/2
NW 21 – IOWA 17 Final

SEC Analyst

November 13th, 2010
5:43 pm

*NC 10 – VT 9

bunknown

November 13th, 2010
5:59 pm

I not sure I understand. You have a player who sells a jersey on the internet for 1K and he is suspended for 4 games. But you have a celebrated Aulburn quarterback who father offered to sell him for 100K with evidence that the player knows about it and he still playing? Also, is the SEC trying to helping Auburn cover this up?

Margaret

November 13th, 2010
6:25 pm

MR. Barnhart you have no creditable, you predict at the first of the season that Alabama had the best team in collage football, you were bad wrong on that one , now trying to put down Auburn and Cam Newton. No one wants to hear your thoughts on how bad football has gotten, your the one playing along with all the stories just so your name will be in the news. Get the facts proven before your broadcast that Cam has given collage football a bad name. Think what this has done to this athlete who has to deal with your accusation.

TrishaDishaWarEagle

November 13th, 2010
7:29 pm

War Eagle, fly down the field
Ever to conquer, never to yield
War Eagle, fearless and true,
Fight on you orange and blue
Go! Go! Go!
On to vict’ry, strike up the band
Give ‘em hell, give ‘em hell,
Stand up and yell, Hey!
War Eagle, win for Auburn,
Power of Dixie Land!

WAR DAMN EAGLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

AU 2010 SEC WEST CHAMPS 11-0!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

NANANANA NANANANA HEY UGA…..GOODBYE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

and stop whining about fairley, yur team got 5 personal fouls too..woof choke woof

One Nation Under educated

November 13th, 2010
9:16 pm

war scam eagle

you know, Auburn is eligible for the NCAA death penalty.

TrishaDishaWarEagle

November 13th, 2010
9:22 pm

loser doggy boys(not all, just the ones on whining about late hits and the SEC conspiracy to make GA lose by not calling penalties) and or pink elephants ….WAR DAMN EAGLE!!!!!!!!!!!!

To the above UGA fans, lose like you’ve been there before..because damn, this year you have…6 times.

Whine, whine, whine….

BreakingNews

November 13th, 2010
9:57 pm

This just in – the FBI has received a tip that a large order (approx. 100,000) of blue headbands was placed in Auburn, AL at Wanda’s Hair & Weaves in June of 2010. The order was signed for by one Cameron Newton.

Looks like we have a paper trail!

TrishaDishaWarEagle

November 13th, 2010
10:03 pm

Hmmm great Coach Mark Richt quotations…

“…We looked at Cam Newton as more of a tight end.”

The End

Scam Newton

November 13th, 2010
11:14 pm

Yep. So according to WSB my dad has come out and said that he did ask for money from Miss State but that I of course knew nothing about my dad selling me like an 18th century slavetrader. And what’s really unusual is that I’m not even mad about it. Nope. Just moving all along being all happy go lucky even though my dad tried to sell me allegedly without my knowledge. Nope. Shouldn’t strike anybody as odd that I’m not at all upset at my dad selling me without my knowledge. Nope. That wouldn’t upset any young man that his dad tried to sell him now would it?

BreakingNews

November 13th, 2010
11:14 pm

Hmmm great Cam Newton quotations…

“…I can get all dees headbands fo’ $200,000? Aww SNAP!”

The End

waterst

November 13th, 2010
11:50 pm

13 traffic violations at Florida, 1 stolen laptop, and 3 times caught cheating…….and you people are going to tell me that this human horse is not a thug……..Puleez.

90 FAIL=RLY AT AUBURN A THUG

November 14th, 2010
12:31 am

THE SEC SHOULD SUSPEND THE AUBURN DEFENSIVE LINEMAN FOR NUMEROUS DIRTY HITS,HE WAS TRYING TO HURT GEORGIA QB AARON MURRAY,WHAT A JERK!!!!

90 FAIRLEY AT AUBURN A THUG

November 14th, 2010
12:32 am

Enter your comments here

daleandersen

November 14th, 2010
1:41 am

Not surprised. No doubt some boosters paid Newton the bucks he wanted. Auburn has been a dirty school for years >>> http://www.nytimes.com/2006/07/14/sports/ncaafootball/14auburn.html

Not A UGA Fan But I Don't Hate You

November 14th, 2010
7:23 am

You know Tony, that was a very nice commentary you made at halftime of the Auburn, Georgia game yesterday; however, you really didn’t say anything, i. e., whether you think the rumors are t/f…..I know, as an on air personality you can’t afford to take sides and I appreciate that. That being said, I have a hard time believing that a human being (and I use this term loosely pertaining to the individual) would be that mean to start something about the young man if there wasn’t any truth to it…..he/she knows surely that he/she will be caught and, hopefully put away in a prison filled with ex-SEC football players :) All kidding aside, usually where there’s smoke there’s fire…..and I see a lot of smoke here. He’s a very talented athlete and my hope is he had nothing to do with the controversy surrounding him, but……………………?????????

SEC Analyst

November 14th, 2010
7:38 am

Richie

November 14th, 2010
8:08 am

Looks like the old man fell on the sword……..What a scam…..

Furman Bitcher

November 14th, 2010
8:39 am

SMOKE-FIRE SMOKE-FIRE SMOKE-FIRE

THIS GUY WAS A THIEF AND A CHEATER AT FLA AND WE ARE SUPPOSE TO GIVE HIM THE BENEFIT OF THE DOUBT??? NO FRIGGIN WAY.

Fan of the Game

November 14th, 2010
8:59 am

All I heard all game was the word Fairness by the commentators. Well when it comes to fairness, Fairley should have been ejected for his helmet first to the back of Murray after he took 3 steps to hit him after ball had been released. If all you get is a 15 yard penalty, then I hit every QB late helmet first. White Hat, what a joke. He must go to Cam’s daddy’s church.

ugadan

November 14th, 2010
9:16 am

This game will be a victory for UGA after Auburn has to forfeit all games this season because Cam Newton will be rulled ineligible to play this season. GO DAWGS!

Frank Oliver

November 14th, 2010
9:17 am

I kinf of felt sorry for ole Newtie till I saw him take a swing with his fist at a Gerogia Player and old Fairley driving the Ga quarterback in the ground late on every play,(Uncalled). And then at the end of the game the lack of class on Aubarns part. I’m sure some booster at Aubarn has made a donation to Mr Newtons church or some lame thing that will let Auburn skate by. It’s sad that the game is so full of liars, burglars and cheaters.

TrishaDishaWarEagle

November 14th, 2010
10:53 am

Oh dog fans, I tried to be nice, said good game, etc. Against my grain but i did it anyway…no more miss nice now!

. Cams eligibility is OUR problem to deal with..

THE FACT HE KICKED YOUR A** is your isue to deal with.

The BEST PLAYERS ON THE FIELD wiped up your team

YOUR team got 5 personal fouls ..and whine about Fairley? Fairely does NOTHING that the greats like Deacon Jones, Reggie White, Bruce Smith, Simeon Rice, and LT didn’t do.
The End

Rev. Chette Williams

November 14th, 2010
10:54 am

I wouldn’t underestimate The Family©.

They disappeared me from Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ASearch&search=Chette+Williams&button=

neutral fan

November 14th, 2010
10:55 am

Its funny to sit here and watch all the dawg fans whine and bitch about late hits, etc. after their latest asskicking. What are they now/ 5-6?

And then Auburn. What can you say about a program so protective of a thug qb who received a stolen laptop, was allegedly about to be booted from UF for academic cheating, and then whose father was bidding him out to Miss state allegedly without his knowledge whatsoever. What person in their right mind would believe the Scam had no idea what was going on? Only an AU fan could be that naiive.

Rev. Chette Williams

November 14th, 2010
10:57 am

All things are possible in the service of the Lord.

Scam newton

November 14th, 2010
11:00 am

trisha,

That cam newton sure does have a lot of character doesn’t he- laptop, imminent expulsion from UF for cheating, his dad allegedly admiting trying to sell his recruitment to MSU. And without his knowledge? uh-huh. Sure whatever you believe. And there’s a tooth fairy also. But that cam newton? One high character young man- yessirreeee.

j rev

November 14th, 2010
11:06 am

Barnhart- Stop being part of the problem. It is obvious from your interview yesterday that, despite what you say, you are basking in your new found glory and spotlight. On one hand you say the coverage is unfair to Newton, and on the other hand you are on every network showing your smug mug.

TrishaDishaWarEagle

November 14th, 2010
11:08 am

It’s football, as Al Davis says, JUST WIN, BABY!!!! and Thats what we ask of Cam and thats what Cam delivers!!!

WAR DAMN EAGLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WAR CAM EAGLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

11-0 AU Tigers, 2010 SEC WEST CHAMPS!!!!

Dawg Fan

November 14th, 2010
12:09 pm

Would like to CONGRATULATE the DAWGS on the big win yesterday! Cam knew his Dad was selling him and history books will show a W for the DAWGS in 2010. Aaron Murray, AJ, Washaun – great win guys!

TrishaDishaWarEagle

November 14th, 2010
12:11 pm

No, vacated wins do not revert to a win for the LOSER team..it simply becomes as if the game was never played.

TrishaDishaWarEagle

November 14th, 2010
12:12 pm

But, I applaud UGA fans for TRYING to figure a way to win..since you couldn;t on the field!

Dawg Fan

November 14th, 2010
12:25 pm

If I was an Auburn fan, I’d be hiding under a rock right now.

TrishaDishaWarEagle

November 14th, 2010
12:28 pm

<–lifts rock…oops already a 5-6 team under there..oh well

Dawg Fan

November 14th, 2010
12:34 pm

And the dirty play yesterday will probably hurt Auburn in the long run. Now you got millions of Dawg fans upset, which could help drive this thing forward. You got all the Dawg fans praying and hoping (and helping) for sanctions. The decision by UA to play Newton was a disgrace to college football, plain and simple.

TrishaDishaWarEagle

November 14th, 2010
2:35 pm

Its GREAT to BE an AUBURN TIGER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

2010 SEC WEST CHAMPS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 11-0

TrishaDishaWarEagle

November 14th, 2010
2:37 pm

Why do UGA fans always have excuses…

“SC was lucky”

“Florida is dirty”

“Auburn is dirty”

“Colorado is..uh uh uh uh uh..it was the altitude!”

Mindy

November 14th, 2010
3:02 pm

Trisha too funny!!! :lol:

ColumDawg

November 14th, 2010
3:14 pm

Tony,

What are the repercussions for Urban Meyer if he is indeed proven to be the leak and instigator in all of this? The timing is the odd thing to me. And the fact that the two NYT columnists with proven links to Meyer are involved so deeply in the story breaking.

I would think Mike Slive wouldn’t like a coach from another school being so deeply involved in a smear campaign against this year’s SEC poster boy and possibly the best player in CFB. Meyer appears to want to ruin the kid for making mistakes at Florida instead of just wishing him well and giving him the best chance at redemption and a future in the NFL.

TrishaDishaWarEagle

November 14th, 2010
4:28 pm

WAR EAGLE, Mindy!!!!!

Rando

November 14th, 2010
5:41 pm

Now that all of you experts have weighed in, here are some things for you to think about.
1. Cam Newton has never denied making a “stupid mistake” with the stolen laptop that he had. By the way, he did not steal it. He recieved stolen property which he did not know was stolen until later. That might be why he did not go to jail.
2. Cheating on a test is immoral but not illegal. Releasing a college students records, even verbally, IS a crime.
3. If I accuse you of having sex with a Giraffe that does not make it true. Though some of you Georgia fans would probably give it a try.
4. The Heisman is supposed to go to the best College Football player each yer. Reggie Bush was still the best in the year he won it. He should not have given it back. Cam is the best this year. Whether he did anything wrong or not does not change that.
5. Innocent until proven guilty is not just a legal concept, it is a fairness concept. That is what Slive was trying to say when said that we should not unfairly judge Cam Newton in this but should wait until the “evidence” is in and the investigation is complete. It just might be that Cam did nothing wrong but his father and Kenny Rogers did attempt to. People do bad things all the time that they hope their family never knows about. Sometimes it is an attempt to profit from the family member’s work. Parents of athletes sometimes think they deserve something for their child’s talents.

I hope that the idiots at Georgia don’t make the mistake of thinking that if bad things happen to Auburn it somehow minimizes their woes this year. I also hope they don’t make the mistake of firing one of the best coaches and finest human beings in College football. It would be their loss!

The Ole Ball Coach

November 14th, 2010
6:33 pm

ccc

November 14th, 2010
6:33 pm

cams dad picked the school ??? go war buzzards

ccc

November 14th, 2010
6:38 pm

rando does not know all auburn people. he should know those who lives in ga. i know some who are really stupid.

jhs61165

November 14th, 2010
10:36 pm

Mike Slive has totally disappointed – he is obviously trying to maintain the SECs latest shot at a BCS national championship game at all costs. The rest of the nation is disgusted at what is living up to their perceptions of the DIRTY SEC. If Slive had any cajones he would tell No Comment University to sit their 200K rent-mule until the investigation is over.

Rando's Lawyer

November 14th, 2010
11:47 pm

Rando,

Better stick to the “no comment” strategy. As your attorney, I have to advise you to shut your mouth since you have no idea what your talking about. It is indeed a crime to recieve stolen property whether you knew it was stolen or not. Additionally, getting caught cheating on a test at school is a violoation of said schools ethics policy which all students sign. As such, a student caught cheating can be dismissed from school.

Also, the Heisman goes to the most talented ELIGIBLE college football player. Notice the conditional clause in there. If these allegations prove true, Cam Newton will be deemed ineligible based on his father’s actions as listed in NCAA rules.

Now pay my invoice before I take your under-eduacated arse to court for breach of contract.

TrishaDishaWarEagle

November 15th, 2010
12:16 am

Slive is a retired Federal Judge..one smart cookie..He knows the rules and law inside out and he hasn’t put his foot down..thus I believe (until you show me proof otherwise) there is no fire to stamp out

Palladin

November 15th, 2010
7:19 am

Week 11
SEC Stock Report:

The Entire SEC – DOWN – All trading has been suspended pending the results of NCAA and FBI investigations.

Joe

November 15th, 2010
8:30 am

Is the SEC helping in the cover up so they will have a team in the BCS championship game and a player that wins the Heisman Trophy?

chazzo

November 16th, 2010
7:43 am

Anyone know: If did leave UF for academic cheating does that cancel all eligibility with the NCAA. He obviously screwed up at UF, but if he went to JC and got himself right, why is any of it relevant? If he working with someone acting as an agent, then he should be suspended. But, AU has one more game and THE game. He aint sitting, I assure you. If you bring the suspension now. He’ll just go pro which he will anyway. I guess a suspension could keep him out of the SEC champ. and Bowl game which would be kind of sad. I wouldn’t find much satisfaction in beating a Camless AU.

chazzo

November 16th, 2010
7:44 am

Good lord. I have to proofread before I post.

chazzo

November 16th, 2010
7:46 am

JC here means Junior College not Jesus Christ, although, that probably wouldn’t hurt.

chazzo

November 16th, 2010
7:47 am

Ultimately, I am just happy he didn’t play for Meyer. Urban would have started wearing a pointy hat and expecting people to kiss his ring.