Mississippi State did what it was supposed to do

 I’m not sure why, but a big deal was made yesterday when Mississippi State released a statement saying that it contacted the SEC office in January 2010 with information it had about the recruiting of Cameron Newton. Some thoughts here:

No. 1: Mississippi State was following the rules established by the Southeastern Conference. Any member school with information that NCAA rules may have been broken–by its institution or another institution–has the obligation to turn that information over to the conference office. Failure to do so is in itself a violation of SEC rules. So if it had sat on the information and not turned it in, Mississippi State would have had a problem.

No. 2: When Mississippi State first contacted the SEC the information was very general and lacked specifics. My understanding is that the initial contact between Mississippi State and the SEC on this matter was a very informal one. It was along the lines of “Hey, this happened and we thought you should know about it.” It wasn’t a formal report.  Logically, the SEC office wanted more information, including interviews with the staff people at Mississippi State who were involved before it could move forward. For example: The initial information presented to the SEC by Mississippi State did not include the names of John Bond and Kenny Rogers, whose alleged conversation back in December started this mess.

3. That additional information, I have been told, was not immediately forthcoming. Mississippi State confirms this in its statement: “Due to MSU dealing with ongoing and time-consuming eligibility isues in the winter and spring of 2010, the specific SEC request went unfilled. Some additional information was provided to the SEC during July of 2010.” Okay. So now we have the time line that answers the Auburn fans as to WHY this is coming out now. The SEC did not have the information it needed to move forward with the NCAA until this summer.

4. So the question now is WHY did it take until July of 2010 for the SEC to get the additional information it needed from Mississippi State? In its statement the school said it was busy with other eligibility issues not related to football. This begs for some clarification from both Mississippi State and the SEC. The SEC, I’ll remind you, is not an investigative body. It gathers facts, shares its findings with the institutions involved, and then forwards them on to the NCAA to be examined. There could be an entirely logical explanation for this timeline. Did Mississippi State drag its feet because it didn’t want to get that involved? Did the SEC not press as hard as it should have to get the information? Or is this timeline consistent with how long these things take?  Mississippi State jumped out there with its version of the events on Wednesday because I’m sure it was getting hammered from a lot of different directions. Does the SEC respond? I’m not sure it can or would want to other than to say that what happened is consistent with its policies.

5. Please, spare me the conspiracy theories. I love you guys (and you know who you are) but nobody can dream up conspiracy theories like an SEC football fan. Things don’t just happen in the SEC. They are always part of a huge Master Plan to put the screws to your school–especially when it is having a good year. 

They only drag the discussion of this topic down to an even lower level, which I’m not sure is possible at this point. There has been some good reporting on this story and there has been some downright lousy reporting on this story. There have been people who call themselves reporters who  have taken an ounce of fact and extrapolated it into a five pounds of rampant and unfounded speculation. Conclusions have been reached from alleged facts that are not in evidence. At times it has been damned embarrassing for those of us who do this for a living.

 Why? Because they know you’ll read it and react to it. It moves the needle and creates the web hits. Some of the discussion in the blogosphere has raised important questions and has been really thought provoking. But the vast majority of the discourse on the Cameron Newton case has been several notches below a cafeteria food fight.

Understand that regardless of how the Cameron Newton story is resolved,  there will no winners.  The biggest loser of all is those of us who love college football and still feel that, with all of its warts, it is a worthwhile enterprise that is a lot more good than bad. For the people who care about the game, this has been a very tough week.

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445 comments Add your comment

Larry

November 11th, 2010
3:13 pm

Since Cam’s dad is a minister there is no way he would take money illegally from anyone….ha ha !!!

SEC Fan

November 11th, 2010
3:14 pm

@G8R GRAD

3:05 pm

The guys in Vegas know Coach Superior’s history at SC. I’m surprised that you’re surprised. I’d give the Gators a 2 TD edge.

G8R GRAD

November 11th, 2010
3:25 pm

Bless you, SEC fan.
You’ve made my day.
I can only hope we don’t disappoint you!

SEC Fan

November 11th, 2010
3:32 pm

Made your day? I can do better than that. Check out the cover of ESPN the magazine’s new “body issue”. The US Womens Water Polo Team — au naturale.

http://tedwilliamshead.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/ESPN-the-magazine-us-womens-water-polo.jpg

GaCracker

November 11th, 2010
3:34 pm

Give Newton a fair trial and then HANG HIM!

gdawginkalamazoo

November 11th, 2010
3:34 pm

G8R GRAD, regarding the schedules, I heard that our schedule for 2011 “sets up real nice.” Translated it means 7-6 or 9-4 on the high side.

Minister Farakan

November 11th, 2010
3:34 pm

This is a smear campaign by the WHITE MEDIA. The media has always been against blacks.

Minister Farakan

November 11th, 2010
3:35 pm

Look at all you white people make these racist comments.

how2fish

November 11th, 2010
3:39 pm

Minister Farakan thanks for just being you………..

G8R GRAD

November 11th, 2010
3:42 pm

gdawg:
That it does.
The month of October looks ugly for us.

Frank

November 11th, 2010
3:43 pm

i wish someone knew what Buck Blows..I mean Buck Blew thinks about all this. after all, wasn’t he and John Bond blow buddies from Valdosta?

G8R GRAD

November 11th, 2010
3:43 pm

Curious how we both have bye weeks before Jacksonville!

G8R GRAD

November 11th, 2010
3:45 pm

G8R GRAD

November 11th, 2010
3:47 pm

SEC fan:
Regarding the link you provided:
You’re a man after my own heart.
Inspirational!

Kenny Rogers

November 11th, 2010
3:47 pm

I told them investigaters I don’t know nuthin bout no James Bond. I been busy all year shuttin down all these here chicken joints.

G8R GRAD

November 11th, 2010
3:49 pm

BTW:
Whatever happened to the Cheetah III (otherwise known as the “Spring Street Ballet”) ads on the Sports Page?

BAMA dude

November 11th, 2010
3:52 pm

Twitter just blew up again. Kenny Rogers apparently just told ESPN Dallas on air that Cecil told that it would take between $100K-$180K for Cam’s commitment.

BAMA dude

November 11th, 2010
3:53 pm

Station is 103.3 in Dallas

Kenny Rogers

November 11th, 2010
3:54 pm

BS! I ain’t never even been on ESPN.

justthefacts

November 11th, 2010
3:55 pm

So,how harsh is the penalty for lying to the FBI? Seriously,Who in their right mind is going to do this? NOT many I would say! This will not turn out well for 1 or 2 schools in the SEC West.

BAMA dude

November 11th, 2010
3:58 pm

Rogers also said that he was working with former MSU player Bill Bell to secure the funds. If his story checks out, Cam is done and Auburn just went 0-10.

tj

November 11th, 2010
3:59 pm

Bama is gonna beat the Barners like a drum in a couple of weeks. Auburn is no good and it would not surprise me for Georgia to beat them

Kenny Rogers

November 11th, 2010
4:00 pm

And I don’t even like Fig Newtons.

Them new strawberry one’s is pretty good though.

Driving Ms Dooley

November 11th, 2010
4:06 pm

Bama Dude.

So what is Kenny Rogers motivation for doing this? Just trying to understand. If this is what he does for a living, then he just shot himself in the foot. Now we have some smoke, but where’s the damned money?

Kenny Rogers

November 11th, 2010
4:08 pm

Where’s the damned money?

That’s what I said when all them chicken joints started goin under!

Driving Ms Dooley

November 11th, 2010
4:10 pm

At Bama Dude again,

The NCAA doesn’t try people on ESPN. They have to investigate and AGAIN, MONEY HAS TO CHANGE HANDS! AND THERE HAS TO BE A PAPER TRAIL. I’m not sold on 0-10 just yet.

Playing devils advocate (and I DO mean devils advocate), Cam will say he didn’t know his dad did it and when he found out they couldn’t get the money, he chose Auburn because they are a better program.

We still have no violation by Auburn. Just heresay by third parties who are NOT at AU

Driving Ms Dooley

November 11th, 2010
4:11 pm

At Kenny Rogers,

I’ll give you that one–the chicken joints. That’s hilarious. You just have to know when to fold em.

Kenny Rogers

November 11th, 2010
4:12 pm

I ain’t never been to Auburn neither. Where is Auburn?

Driving Ms Dooley

November 11th, 2010
4:15 pm

Kenny,

Everybody knows its next to Opelika

Kenny Rogers

November 11th, 2010
4:17 pm

Oh yeah. I think I had a chicken joint in Opelika. That’s in Georgia, ain’t it?

Driving Ms Dooley

November 11th, 2010
4:18 pm

Close enough.

jarvis

November 11th, 2010
4:20 pm

That and the fact that the entire GNP of Mississippi isn’t $200K. the State’s good people couldn’t afford him; they wouldn’t have been able to buy that new fire truck.

Driving Ms Dooley

November 11th, 2010
4:20 pm

Come on Bama Dude. whats the story. Don’t make me do my own research here. What’s being said out there?? Bigger question. Did Kenny Rogers represent Cam for Auburn??????????????????????? And if so, he should have a copy of a check or a picture of a bags of cash.

Kenny Rogers

November 11th, 2010
4:22 pm

Had one in Columbus too.

I just wish I’d quit gettin all these strange phone calls. Some feller named Fat Pie, or somethin was threatenin to come and give me a country boy azz whuppin.

KR

November 11th, 2010
4:22 pm

How is Rogers’ interview from today different from what has already been alleged? MSU said back in January that Rogers contacted them about paying for Newton.

Now he says he and Newton’s father talked about this. Can he back that up with proof or is he just trying to spread blame?

Did Rogers contact other universities or only his alma mater?

Kenny Rogers

November 11th, 2010
4:25 pm

The way that ol feller was coughin and wheezin, I don’t think he coulda whupped much of nuthin. I just hung up on him.

Kenny Rogers

November 11th, 2010
4:26 pm

Hey KR!

You and me might be related. We got the same initials.

Driving Ms Dooley

November 11th, 2010
4:28 pm

Ok, I didn’t realize that Kenny Rogers was ANOTHER MSU ALUM WHO HAS CHANGED HIS STORY AND HAS NO IDEA WHAT WENT ON AT AUBURN.

People you have got to realize that ESPN is not in charge of this investigation and they have quoted lies by MSU alum twice already. They web hit count must be huge.

Ok this is from ESPN:
“Rogers said he didn’t know anything about Newton’s recruitment at Auburn, or any other school. He said he had “no idea” why Newton chose Auburn and had no idea if Auburn paid Newton.

Last Friday, in an interview with ESPN 103.3 FM in Dallas, Rogers denied having solicited Newton to Mississippi State. ”

Very credible sources. Somebody get the rope!! If that aint enough evidence I don’t know what is..
Simmer down folks.

Kenny Rogers

November 11th, 2010
4:29 pm

Well. I better go check up on Miss Ruby.

Keep it down home Cuz!

Driving Ms Dooley

November 11th, 2010
4:30 pm

Where are you when I need you Trish?? The sky is falling again as more hard evidence–I mean heresay from MSU folks who keep changing there story and lawyer-in up–keeps on surfacing. I mean re-surfacing.

Driving Ms Dooley

November 11th, 2010
4:32 pm

Will somebody wake me up when a piece of increminating paper evidence shows up. Or at least some heresay by non MSU Alum. It’s too bad these two schools have already played each other cause it would be alot more fun now.

TrishaDishaWarEagle

November 11th, 2010
4:33 pm

I got important enjinering work to do. I can’t hold your hand all day Ms Dooley.

Driving Ms Dooley

November 11th, 2010
4:38 pm

I think I get it now. ESPN has been taking heat from the Big Ten because it seems that their football analysts are constantly saying that the SEC is the best conference.

The ONLY thing this story is doing is tearing down the SEC. That and the fact that now, a one loss SEC champ–be it LSU or Auburn–will not play for the NCG because of all of this back biting. TCU will be “polled in” instead. Ohio State fans are smiling right now.

Buckeye Bob

November 11th, 2010
4:42 pm

We’re just proud that we don’t have to play ANYBODY from the SEC. I don’t think we could even beat Tennessee this year.

;-)

Robbie E.

November 11th, 2010
4:42 pm

@ DrivingMsDooley

maybe Rogers knows there’s a tape/recording– so he has to tell the truth before the other show drops

Robbie E.

November 11th, 2010
4:43 pm

Buckeye Bob

November 11th, 2010
4:44 pm

Georgia… Maybe.

[...] is the speed at which the next shoe drops.  The regular news cycle can barely keep up – Barnhart’s column this morning didn’t even mention Schad’s allegations about what Cam and his dad were alleged to have [...]

Kenny Rogers

November 11th, 2010
4:48 pm

Oh yeah. I meant to leave y’all a song before I left.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lu2LUOMJ9Lk&feature=fvw

SEC Fan

November 11th, 2010
4:53 pm

I remember those Roaster restaurants. My little girl used to call them Skinny Rogers.