It may be time for Slive put his foot down again

In the South, we call it a ”Come to Jesus” meeting. That’s when the man (or woman) in charge of an organization calls everybody into a room and lays down the law. Any deviation from this path, the boss says, will result in serious consequences. You fail to heed this warning at your own peril, the boss emphasizes. Now go back out there and behave.

In May of 2009 SEC Commissioner Mike Slive had a “Come to Jesus” meeting with his coaches at the annual Spring Meetings in Destin. The Commish had had enough back biting between Florida coach Urban Meyer and the Boy Wonder at Tennessee, Lane Kiffin. Even Steve Spurrier had thrown in a little jab when asked.

Slive got all of the coaches into a room at the Sandestin Hilton and, in a lawyerly fashion (he is a former district court judge), read them the riot act. Any more of this public food fight and somebody, he warned, was going to get taken to the woodshed.

In the wake of the storm now engulfing the SEC concerning Auburn quarterback Cameron Newton, it could be time for Slive to put his foot down once more.

Here is what we know: The NCAA is investigating whether or not rules were violated in the recruitment of Newton.

That’s it.

But from that one fact has emerged waves charges and counter charges that bring back some very  of the worst days of the SEC.  Slive came on board in 2002 and wanted to clean up the dark side of this conference where rumor and whispers were used as weapons in an attempt to bring another program down. Some progress had been made.  Coaches and other SEC employees were put on notice that free lancing in the area of rules compliance would not be tolerated. There was a process put in place where if an employee of a member institution comes upon information that another member may have broken the rules, that information must go up the chain of command and eventually to the conference office.

Then that information will be assessed and, if warranted, passed on to the NCAA. Those who work for SEC schools may not have direct contact with the NCAA on such information. Employees of SEC schools may not leak information of this kind to the media. If so, they are in direct violation of conference policy.

And it could be that, until yesterday, the chain of command was followed in the Cameron Newton story. We know that Mississippi State acquired some information about the recruitment of Newton (the total accuracy of that information is still uncertain) and that it was passed along to the SEC which passed it along to the NCAA. The rest has been media speculation from unnamed sources.

But yesterday this story changed and took on a very ugly–and perhaps illegal–tone.

Somebody leaked some information that caused a story to be written that Newton faced multiple academic incidents while he was at Florida and was on the verge of expulsion before he left in 2009.  We don’t know if that story is true or not. There have been subsequent reports, from unnamed sources, that the story is not true.

But if the story is true, somebody just broke federal privacy laws in releasing that information. And if that person works for an SEC institution and if the leak ever gets traced back to them, I have a piece of advice: You better lawyer up, buddy, because your life is going to get really complicated. Federal judges don’t really care that much about college football. They do care about people violating federal law for their own amusement.

If the story is not true, and if it came from an employee of an SEC institution,  then the leak it represents the worst kind of behavior that cannot be tolerated. The person who gave misinformation to the media, knowing that it was misinformation, should be fired on the spot if they are ever caught.

And if the academic story about Newton is true, so what? It’s embarrassing to Newton and his family. He should be held accountable for his actions. But beyond that what’s the need for that information, if true, to be made public?  What purpose does it serve if it doesn’t impact this eligibility?  Why would you release that kind of information unless you wanted to embarrass the kid and perhaps negatively impact his ability to perform on the field?  Do you put that information out there because you don’t want the kid to win the Heisman Trophy? Do you want to him be embarrassed enough to turn pro and get out of the league? Did you watch him running up and down the field and enjoying his time at Auburn and think: “This guy isn’t who people think he is. It’s up to me to set the record straight?”

What is this, high school?

Despite various media reports we don’t know if coaches are actually involved in his sorry tale. But if they are, even if the information they leaked is true, the consequences should be fairly harsh. The fact is we may never know who all the leaks are and whether or not coaches have their finger prints on this. But a lot of people sure THINK coaches are involved in this.

In the meantime, it might be a good idea for the Presidents of  the SEC to meet with Commissioner Slive and empower him to do whatever he has to do to get a handle on this.

It puts the commissioner in a tough spot. If he steps out and says something publicly, it adds another layer to the story and keeps it alive for several more news cycles. And if he says something publicly, what exactly does he say and who exactly is he saying it TO?

But what we have now are charges, albeit unsubstantiated, that coaches in this league have violated federal privacy laws at worst and SEC policy at best. It’s probably a good time for everybody in the league to be reminded that they work for the institution and are obligated to follow the rules of the Southeastern Conference. They also need to be reminded that if they violate those policies, the result will not be pretty.

What’s going on now plays into every stereotype the rest of the country has about the SEC. Can you imagine something like this happening in the Big Ten or the Pac-10? Me neither.

It will be tricky, but it’s time for the commissioner to put his foot down again.

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Saint Simons

November 10th, 2010
7:16 am

(((( 34 – 31 ))))

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

UgaLeeDawg

November 10th, 2010
7:19 am

Where there is smoke there is fire. I see a lot of smoke Tony. I bet this distracts AU this week. Seems like a parking fine not paid isn’t the worst thing to deal with or a jersey sale. I hope it isn’t true for College Football’s sake but if true then deal with cleanly and smack some heads for this. Good job to MSU for reporting this.

kingman32

November 10th, 2010
7:19 am

I SECOND this

kingman32

November 10th, 2010
7:20 am

Okay I THIRD it

pete foley

November 10th, 2010
7:21 am

Great blog, Tony. This soap opera has more twists and turns than Cirque du Soleil! Hope you’re well, my friend. – Pete.

MURPHY

November 10th, 2010
7:24 am

Anyone else catch the ESPN show last night on Marcus Dupree-The 30 for30 Special? Wow these coaches and asst coaches would do or give just about anything to sign a top recruit. Great show on how some colleges did it in the old days.Talk about paying players,they paid alot of money and gifts to Marcus Dupree.Seems like it still goes on today.Maybe not to that extreme? Maybe so.

Dawg_Mike

November 10th, 2010
7:27 am

This might just wind up as an unspeakable human tragedy.

Dawg_Mike

November 10th, 2010
7:28 am

SS- you really need to get a life and by the way, this isnt the UGA blog. Idiot.

Bill

November 10th, 2010
7:28 am

geez…you media are so predictable. Where is the media outcry for this unbelievably crooked policy by the SEC of only allowing its member institutions to report violations to the SEC office, allowing the SEC office to bury the information at all possible. The SEC is as crooked as it has always been, and why the NCAA allows the SEC office to intercept information about violations by its members and bury that info is beyond me.
There is one main reason why SEC schools are dominant. They cheat. And everyone knows it.

ga gator

November 10th, 2010
7:30 am

Good story Tony, agreed 100%.

Joe Pa

November 10th, 2010
7:31 am

What a shock! It’s another slimy story out of the SEC, this one a three-ring circus with Florida; Mississippi State and Auburn all involved.

Sam Robards, Dawg Fan

November 10th, 2010
7:31 am

It seems to me that a disgruntled someone affiliated with an SEC school (most likely Bama or UF in my estimation because they have the most to gain [or not lose, in UF's case] from a potential Newton removal) but NOT acting ON BEHALF OF said school leaked this information to cost either Newton the Heisman, his eligibility or both.

Slive should put the hammer down in this instance. Auburn and the NCAA have known about these allegations for months, but they go viral as soon as Newton has the Heisman and a potential BCS Championship appearance in sight? The timing’s just too perfect for a smear campaign.

If I were the Cam Newton, and these allegations AREN’T TRUE and STILL cost me the Heisman, I’d sue whoever started these rumors (particularly the ones about academic cheating and potential expulsion) for defamation of character. If that wouldn’t be a slam-dunk case, I dunno what would be.

Either way, as a Georgia Bulldog, I hope Newton’s acquitted of these allegations. I also hope we beat Auburn by three scores on Saturday, but we’ll see how that works out.

:-D

SWGADAWG

November 10th, 2010
7:36 am

Yep…time to shut down the whistleblowers and let the company handle it.

What is that dog licking?

November 10th, 2010
7:36 am

Now the Feds are involved, possible laundering money through someone’s church. Yeah this just took a major step forward. The NCAA just lost control of this thing. As far as the information about him cheating/plagarizing/stealing etc…. I’m willing to bet the entire team team at UF knew about it, as well as several hundred college students close to the football team. You do realize the the football players talk to each other right? They also have drinking buddies, girlfriends (in UF’s case several boyfriends), etc… They all discuss this stuff. Could have come from anywhere.

Drive By Dawg

November 10th, 2010
7:37 am

Barnhart – you are a total joke. I’m ashamed to say you’re a UGA alum. How you have turned your meager “talents” into a career is a mystery to me and many others. Bottom line is this – Mike Slive should be worried – VERY worried – about the cover-up his office tried to author in regards to Cameron Newton and Auburn University. My guess is Mike Slive will be sitting in his own “Come to Jesus” meeting in the near future…

Tony Barnart – making a career of stating the obvious since whenever he started.

JB

November 10th, 2010
7:38 am

All good points Tony, But at the end of the Day, I worried about my Dawgs, who will appear in a hyped up National TV Game, who have not done well in this arena the last 3 years, who lately come out flat, not ready to play in these big games. That’s what I’m worried about. Saturday is BIG for Georgia. We can get some respect back as a National program, or we lay an egg and continue to be a once proud program in decline. I not worried about Cam. I’m worried about MY University and my Dawgs on display for the world to see.

Mike

November 10th, 2010
7:40 am

Cheaters never win and winners never cheat. Auburn goes down before they get to Hotlanta

Suches Dawg

November 10th, 2010
7:41 am

Good article, Tony. The landscape of NCAA FB has changed to allegations of cheating, suspensions, fines, and awaiting the NCAA hammer to come down. Remember when we just enjoyed college football ? Seems like a long time ago. Football is now morphing into another shady element of our corrupt society. Very sad.

m

November 10th, 2010
7:42 am

The sec sucks and so do you Tony.

You are just trying to cover up something that is rotten to the core.

JB

November 10th, 2010
7:43 am

I agree with the blogger @7:36 about the info at UF…..You can’t keep this stuff in a bottle…..If 5 or 6 teammates knew, a 1,000 people knew…..

JB

November 10th, 2010
7:45 am

Suches Dawg….I disagree….I think 95% of Schools AND coach’s do everything they can to follow the rules……I think cheating does go on, but I don’t think it’s out there as much as we think…..

SatchelBuzz

November 10th, 2010
7:45 am

JB,…not that big of game for ugag. You’re season is over,..the ship has sailed.

THWG!

JB

November 10th, 2010
7:47 am

m…………………How’s the greatest football coach and team in the world doing these days, and how much money did you spend on ” There’s a new Sheriff in Town” posters that are now worthless ? LOL

JB

November 10th, 2010
7:49 am

Satcz,,,,,,,,,,At least ours sailed and didn’t sink………..LOL

Atlanta Gator

November 10th, 2010
7:50 am

Beast from the East

November 10th, 2010
7:50 am

Tony,
The “leak” could have come form anywhere. This “rumor” was circualting in Gainesville when Cam got in trouble and decided to leave. It could have been any player, grad assistant, student, etc. I even read someone yesterday alleging that McGarity leaked the story this week to distract Auburn. Crazy! I don’t think any of the coaches are involved. They are too worried about their own problems to be “leaking” stories to Fox news.

Stephen Dawg

November 10th, 2010
7:50 am

Get all of your comments in now Saint Simons. We won’t be hearing much from you after November 27.

Bragging about another team’s victory over your hated rival is kind of like bragging about someone else’s girlfriend. Except, in this case, you are our bitch.

Boise Dawg

November 10th, 2010
7:51 am

Tony,

Pure speculation on my part…. but based on some of these reports and leaks, including another bombshell ESPN started running with last night (Newtons admitted to Miss. St. it would take cash to sign)…. that all this information was reported to the SEC back in January. The impression I have been getting from reading articles is the SEC sat on their hands and didn’t act on any of this information until the summer. This is likely completely inaccurate, but that is how the story is spinning to me.

JB

November 10th, 2010
7:52 am

Beast, good morning……..The only leak Cam will see and hear about Saturday will be our Defense….LOL

MontyP

November 10th, 2010
7:52 am

Tony – good job of trying to blame the coaches for leaking this information without one bit of information to support your assumption. How about taking a closer look at the medias role (including you) in all of this information surfacing about Cam Newton. Did you ever think of that?

Beast from the East

November 10th, 2010
7:53 am

JB,
You guys are just going to have to outscore them. I predict 55-54 in double overtime! LOL!

The view from on High

November 10th, 2010
7:54 am

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=5786315

The media is just as complicit in this as anyone who leaked information. The media’s view is they throw $hit against the wall and whatever sticks is fact.

Georgia

November 10th, 2010
7:54 am

Why are you so concern about allbarn? They have been put on probation time after time and it looks like it could happen again.

Beast from the East

November 10th, 2010
7:55 am

MontyP,
The media is never to blame. They just report the “facts”, without any evidence to support them. An “unnamed source” seems to be the basis for most stories.

Chris WDE

November 10th, 2010
7:55 am

Best Article this season Tony.

War Cam Eagle!

ga gator

November 10th, 2010
7:55 am

Good comment Stephen Dawg, how is your blog doing?

bob

November 10th, 2010
7:56 am

These kids leave their knees, necks and shoulders on the fields every weekend. Many will limp and feel the pain the rest of their lives. The schools make $10 of millions of tax free dollars each year off them. And the kids are put in 21st century public stockades on national TV for making a kids mistake. They are not allowed to work, yet are not given gas money. But they get free schooling. Well so could anyone with the Hope scholarship. But most these kids want to play football not be students. So get off their backs Tony. It is just a game.

rokdawg

November 10th, 2010
7:56 am

Tony:

We know Newton stole a computer … a felony. We now have information that he cheated three times while at Florida, including turing in a paper written by another student, and a another paper he pulled off of the internet. That is academic fraud, or plagarism.

And now we have two Miss. St. recruiters alleging there was a pay to play scheme run by Newton’s father.

One felony confirmed. Three cheats alleged. One massive pay for play scheme alleged.

If you lose four games for selling one of your used jersies for $1,000, what do you get if all of the Newton stuff is true?

Time to get your head out of the sand, Tony. This is a program (or two or three) killing scandal. Why not try something novel … like helping us get to the bottom of this ugly, ugly mess. Be a repoter … dig. There is simply too much smoke here for there not to be a fire.

Slive can’t put this mess back in the bottle … only the Newton family and the folks involved in his recruiting can

JB

November 10th, 2010
7:56 am

MontyP….you are correct….The press lives for this….Never mind the young man here…..And if he’s guilty of Something, let the proper people expose it and deal with it. Rumors get blog hits and sell papers…..Ask politicians and Hollywood types……….

Who cares?

November 10th, 2010
7:58 am

The media started this and now are about to bring it all down. Every game this year has been a Cam love fest, with the announcers saying he never did anything wrong at UF. Urban Meyer never kicks anybody off his team unless that player commits a felony. Sometimes a felony charge won’t even do it (see Rainey). We all knew Newton did something bad. With that said, he did his time at junior college and is back and playing well enough to win the Heisman. He may be better than Tebow on the field but let’s not lie about his past.

ATL is TigerTown

November 10th, 2010
7:59 am

Thanks, Tony. You’re spot on with this one. Sorry you have to be subjected to the stupidity that constantly eminates from this blog. I reference m, mike, driveby, bill, ugalee, etc etc etc.
Saint Simons, please go away.
War Eagle!

GP

November 10th, 2010
8:00 am

I disagree with the “it wouldn’t happen in the PAC-10 “reference. And the the Big 10 has slimed it’s way around in the realignment saga and prevention of a true playoff. No one is innocent in this business.

Hershel

November 10th, 2010
8:01 am

I might not have received 200K to play for the humpers, but I sho drove a lot of nice wheels!

Don

November 10th, 2010
8:02 am

Where there’s smoke, there’s fire.

Cam Newton is likely guilty of something illegal. Too many stories going around from credible sources. Joe Schad sayig he has 2 seprate sources that confirmed Cam, and Cam’s DAD, BOTH asked for money above scholarship.

THAT’S what the SEC COMISSIONER needs to investiagate, and WHERE he needs to lay down the law.

I don’t care how talented the kid is, and how much pr he brings to the SEC, if he and his preacher dad are demanding money above the scholarship, Cam Newton needs to bekicked out of college football, immediately.

It was fishy when Cam switched his commitment from MSU to Auburn, according to Joe Schad’s 2 sources, it was all about the money.

the ginger ninja

November 10th, 2010
8:02 am

Love the toiletdrinkers commenting on what school ratted on Scam Newton. Oh it had to be bama, oh it had to be UF, hmmmm…. let’s see Auburn is playing who this weekend??????

ATL is TigerTown

November 10th, 2010
8:03 am

rokdawg doesn’t know sht. Cam Newton DID NOT STEAL a computer. He bought a stolen computer. He made a mistake. He was cleared of the charges. You are not allowed to create your own facts.

JB

November 10th, 2010
8:03 am

Boy, the game Saturday is almost anticlimactic at this point……. Unlike the Tech poster above who said Georgia’s ship has sailed this year. True. But we have a lot on the line . Respect in a big ball game, recruiting, Bowl eligibility, and something to hang our hat on for a bad season,……Other than beating Tech Again for 9 of 10 times. I’m yawning.

cattle dawg

November 10th, 2010
8:03 am

Good bye cam! With the news out this morning , its about to get real, real, ugly. The money was to much.

Dawg Tired

November 10th, 2010
8:03 am

Tony – If, and it is a very big IF, any coaches or staff at UF leaked the academic stuff, your point is well taken. However, the number of people with access to this infomation may be astronomical as other folks on here have indicated.

The bigger issue is what is all over sports talk shows since you wrote your article. Now there are allegations of the Newton family asking for money from some of the schools that recruited Cam. It also is being alleged that at least two employees at Mississippi State were told by Cam’s dad that it “would take more than a scholarship to get Cam.” It is further alleged that this was reported to the SEC back in January of this year. If, and again it is a very big IF, any of this stuff is true, it would appear that both the SEC and Cam could be in trouble.

Needless to say, if any of this money allegation turns out to be true, Auburn is looking at the distinct possibility of having a great season ruined. This is getting uglier by the minute.

How do these allegations affect Cam’s eligibility for future games? These allegations certainly seem to be at least as serious as a kid selling his own property to a sports memorabilia collector – something that certainly had a serious impact on another team’s season.

Bottom line – Let’s see what the NCAA finds here. If the SEC covered this up in any way whatsoever, should Slive should be fired? If the money stuff is true, should Auburn be required to forfeit this season’s victories?

What say ye Tony?

cattle dawg

November 10th, 2010
8:04 am

And Cam lied to the cops and chuncked it out HIS window.

mowreck

November 10th, 2010
8:04 am

Maybe he should call all the sports writers into a room and have a “come to Jesus” meeting about writing about all the rumors?

Don

November 10th, 2010
8:04 am

Here’s the latest on how ESPN’s Joe Schad says Cam, and his peacher Dad, both asked for lots of money.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=5786315&campaign=rss&source=ESPNHeadlines

dip

November 10th, 2010
8:05 am

Didn’t Newton get run for stealing a notebook at UF? Supposedly he also had 10+ trafic violations in Gainesville, plus the cheating allegations. Isn’t the Heisman supposedly also about integrity – or have we dumbed this down too?

Roaddawg80

November 10th, 2010
8:05 am

Tony,

You have made a A$$ out of yourself the last couple of weeks!

First, you say “Here is what we know: The NCAA is investigating whether or not rules were violated in the recruitment of Newton.”

That’s it.

Second you go on accusing a coach or institute and say that Mr. Slive should put his foot down. Basically go after these coaches and once again you want to fire someone(talk about a powere problem you have).

But yet just like the investigation all you know is that SOMEONE leaked information.

THATS IT!

You of all people should know that when the media gets a hold of something a bunch of stuff is going to come out. Trust me there will be more.

VERY DOUBLE STANDARDS DON’T YOU THINK! Your pathetic!

Bill king is a...............

November 10th, 2010
8:05 am

I know why UGA cant win now……we actually suspend our players and kick them off the team now for some of the stuff that Newton has done. Lets start with the 13 TRAFFIC VIOLATIONS. Hell, we have a couple of kids who get stopped with a suspended license and most of you humps say RICHT has lost control of the program and he needs to be fired. Look at this junk that Newton did…..13 traffic violations!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WHere’s the public outcry tht Meyer should be fired??? And godforbid these academic allegations are actually true……and Meyer himself didnt kick Newton off the team. what the hell does that say about MR? IT says UGA is playing by a different set of rules than the rest of the SEC. All teams should be playing by same rules. GO DAWGS

Dog in TN

November 10th, 2010
8:05 am

What does it say when the talk is about slimy allegations and not football? This story is nothing but unproved allegations. All those getting their exercise jumping to conclusions yet to be proven, get on the couch and rest. Let’s talk football.

John

November 10th, 2010
8:06 am

Tony, this crap has been going on for DECADES!! When it come out, the media feigns shock and disbelief. What a joke! You, yourself KNOW all the dirty details of Herchel Walker’s recruitment. You also know how bad Vince Dooley cheated….hell, he had enough cars purchased for his recruits to keep Detroit running full-time.

Instead of focusing on this particular story, why don’t you go back thru the years and describe all the cheating that went on (and still go on) at your alma mater.

Mr College Football is a hypocrit. Just like the rest of your ilk at the AUC.

Joe

November 10th, 2010
8:07 am

If it is Auburn and they are winning you know they are cheating. Remember you can’t spell AUtistic without AU.

JB

November 10th, 2010
8:07 am

I, as a Dawg fan, hope none of this is true, win or lose Saturday. I’m Georgia first, SEC second.
I don’t want our conference to have this black eye……

Gen Neyland

November 10th, 2010
8:07 am

Investigative Reporting Lesson 34 : When rumors can’t be substantiated, just go with the rumors. That’ll keep a story running for many, many news cycles and the fish will eat it up. Think of all the fun we’ll have and to top it off, it sells..!

Boise Dawg

November 10th, 2010
8:07 am

I was feeling sorry for Newton yesterday, but must admit on further reflection, I am not anymore. It seems pretty clear the academic fraud story is true, or mostly true, otherwise he could have been completely denying and threatening legal action against Fox Sports. While I still hope they find the source of the leak and that person at the very least loses their job, I don’t feel the least bit sorry for Newton. It appears he ran from his problems and didn’t face the consequences of his cheating at Florida. Well he is now….. through the humiliation in the media.

m

November 10th, 2010
8:07 am

Tony, mr. sec homer gomer, how many felonies does Cam have to commit before it affects your Heisman vote?

By the way, your blind support of the BS-bcs makes you an idiot….and IDIOT.

We need a 16 team playoff….and we need it NOW.

cattle dawg

November 10th, 2010
8:07 am

The new Cam Newton allegations open the 8 am sportsenter.

Bill king is a...............

November 10th, 2010
8:08 am

Mowreck…………..AMEN brother

Don

November 10th, 2010
8:08 am

It’s odd that AJ Green get suspended for selling a jersey for $1200 on E-Bay, yet Cam Newton gets off for allegedly accpetign $200,000!!!! This is starting to look like someone’s out for Georgia, and wants Auburn to win out their games. Remember the LSU calls by the ref’s that got the whole ref crew suspended last season? This one, cosiderin Cam Newton isn’t suspended yet, is simply revolting. Soeone, very high up, is anti-Georgia, and pro-LSU, pro-Auburn.

Cletus

November 10th, 2010
8:08 am

Tony, I’m amazed at how quickly you and your radio talk show buddies have trashed the media for reporting this story about Cam Newton. Aren’t you, uh, a member of the media yourself? As a journalist — if you still consider yourself to be one — you should know better than anyone that there could be a story here. Before you state so definitively that Newton is completely innocent and did nothing wrong, perhaps you should do a little reporting to see what the facts are. Remember, Richard Nixon also claimed he wasn’t a crook.

Bill king is a...............

November 10th, 2010
8:08 am

at Mowreck…..AMEN Brother

VINI

November 10th, 2010
8:09 am

Enter your comments here

Joe

November 10th, 2010
8:10 am

Dooley was and is as honest a man as there can be, Walker had a great car because he worked at a car dealer for years before he went to Georgia.

Don

November 10th, 2010
8:10 am

Richt kicked Mettenberger off the team, and that cost hm 4 games. Auburn’s coaches and the SEC just look the other way when it comes to Cam Newton.

Cam Corleone

November 10th, 2010
8:11 am

Like in The Godfather, the heads of the families need to come to the table together and settle their differences. Killing season must be ended. This Cam Newtown bloodbath can’t be tolerated. It’s just bad business for everyone. You say this about me and my kid, don’t I have to turn around and say something bad about you and your kid? Of course, you do.

As a conference, however, you have to concern yourselves with the greater good of the group. You just can’t have everyone running around whacking each other, declaring open season on each other. They’ll all surely got their revenge on each other, but the business of each and every school and the conference will suffer, and likely very severely.

VININGSDAWG

November 10th, 2010
8:11 am

We better watch they way we taunt, rumor is there another Dawg in trouble. And this isn’t small.

All of these who think this will distract Auburn, I worry the opposite, this will make them pissed off.

Lum

November 10th, 2010
8:12 am

God, our sense of standards, ethics, and morals has disappeared. So, it’s okay to cheat, lie, and steal, as long as you are out of high school? That’s the new way of life, is it?

dap01

November 10th, 2010
8:13 am

Did anyone actually think that Cam Newton had a spotless background?

Don

November 10th, 2010
8:13 am

Tony,

You’re missing the point. Like when you tried to defend Saban’s attack on sports agents, instead of going after the player who accepted the money.

Same deal here. You’re going after the administrator who leaked the information, instead of going after the player, who Schad’s multiple sources is reporting demanded more money than scholarship.

cAM nEWTON, IF THESE STORIES HAVE EVEN A GRAIN OF TRUTH, IF HE ACCEPTED $1 MORE THAN A SCHOLRSHIP, LIKE aj, HE NEEDS TO BE SUSPENDED IMMEDIATELY.

Somebody needs to figure out where his dad got all that money to repair his church.

Hershel

November 10th, 2010
8:14 am

VINI

November 10th, 2010
8:09 am
Enter your comments here OK VINI you must have fat fingers.

JB

November 10th, 2010
8:14 am

No one in the SEC get’s scrutinized like Georgia because of 4 writers at this paper. Georgia will have a player stopped for a suspended D. Lic or a past due traffic fine, and this paper will do 10 stories on it and 10 blogs and then the wire services pick it up from them …..and it’s crap. Why isn’t Tim Tucker or Bradley on their way to Mississippi this morning to interview the accuser’s of this pay for play story. Now, that would be a story.

Jan Kemps ghost

November 10th, 2010
8:16 am

Since when do Dawgs of all people get off on talking about integrity?

Jan Kemps ghost

November 10th, 2010
8:17 am

JB you must have forgot about Caleb King blackmailing the girl he owed money to. Oh well, when it is about the dogs (Odell Thurman) we tend to look the other way.

KEEPING IN REAL!!!!!

November 10th, 2010
8:17 am

Where there is smoke there is fire??? The only smoke I see is that someone tried to sell Newton’s services to MSU thats it period. At this point thats all we know….If your a puppy fan you pray to GOD this is a distracts because yall SUCK!!!! Someone above wrote Seems like a parking fine not paid isn’t the worst thing to deal with or a jersey sale you left out a AD WITH RED PANIES (not his wife’s) BETWEEN HIS LEGS PULLED OVER AND GETTING A DUI. then you added I hope it isn’t true for College Football’s sake, BS you hope it’s true and so does alot of other people, if you hoped it was’nt true you wouldn’t have wrote what you did on this blog. My question is what if its not true?

Left to Right

November 10th, 2010
8:18 am

Tony,

Don’t you feel like an idiot now?

How did you get scooped by the New York Times and ESPN? Did you really think they would go with a story like this without solid sourcing? Your obfuscating and excuse making for those involved looks worse and worse as your spin is being rapidly overtaken by emerging information. Quit now while you’re way behind.

Don

November 10th, 2010
8:18 am

NY TIMES, credible source, says Cam Newton left Florida, not because he wouldn’t start against Tebow, but because he cheated academically.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/11/10/sports/ncaafootball/10auburn.html

Jan Kemps ghost

November 10th, 2010
8:19 am

The only reason that humpers care is because they are playing the Plainsmen. It was the same with Rainey. They complained about Rainey as soon as he became eligiable. I bet if they had beaten Florida, they would be pulling for Rainey to score TD’s this week against Carolina. UGA=Hypocrits.

Michael G.

November 10th, 2010
8:19 am

Tony, why are you going out of your way trying to say there is not a story here, when there obviously is one? Joe Schad of espn is now reporting that the camerons (namly cecil newton) personally sought out cash for his son to play football, and referred inquiries to a “third-party”.

Last week we heard Cam was being pimped out by a “third party”, and now we know it was being done with the knowledge and approval of daddy newton.

Tony, why are you staking you journalistic integrity in trying to claim this is not a story? Are you now willing to admit your mistakes in misreading this situation?

True DAWG

November 10th, 2010
8:19 am

tony you are suggesting sweeping things under the rug buddy!!!!! So what if he cheated-he left fL story closed- but if someone knows that information and wants to tell it its his business- your suggesting the good ole boy cover up system. This is America! We dont like cover-ups!

GTJeff

November 10th, 2010
8:19 am

“What is this, high school?”

No its the SEC. More like middle school.

bdawg

November 10th, 2010
8:20 am

Tony,
I agree on all accounts of coaches leaking private records. That is nothing but a smear campaign and should be dealt with severly. However on the pay for my services allegation, it seems to be some serious smoke coming from the Newton’s. As a dawg supporter, I have been able to get to know some key players around Herschel’s recruitment. I will say there is/was a lot we don’t want hear. This happens, its not good but it does. Watch the 30-30 show on espn about Marcus Dupree, it was very informative into recruiting. The investigation into Cam Newton is in overdrive. There are more allegations every day that it continues. It may just be that, allegations. I hope this turns out well for all partys involved, the SEC, Auburn and the Newtons. Good luck Tigers, see you Saturday. GOOOO DAWGS!!!!!

War Probation Eagle

November 10th, 2010
8:21 am

Poor Tony B, forced to defend corruption and cheating (Auburn) just so one of his precious SEC teams gets to play for the BCS title. If it ends up being Oregon vs. TCU, Tony B’s head might explode. Tony B, you better start making your case for a 2-loss Bama team to bypass all of the undefeateds so your good ol’ boys (Slive, Saban, Spurrier) can claim another title for the conference.

logan

November 10th, 2010
8:22 am

ever heard of the southwestern conference? they spent some time recognized as a powerful force in college football, but eventually tore up each others a-holes to the point that the whole confence fell apart due to the dissension between the member institutions. that’s where this is headed, not today, but down the road, if the commish of the sec doesnt take strong action to quell the onslaught of accusations.
im an auburn alum, and if cam or someone associated with cam did accept money or solicited money, then whatever the appropriate penalty is should be enforced. but until these so-called journalists provide the names of their sources to substantiate their allegations, i will choose to believe in cam. and please refrain from discussing academic violations or unpaid parking tickets. i had a slew of parking tickets myself as a student at auburn, and if you attended any university and drove a car, you did too. if cam violated the honor code at Florida, and transferred to avoid being brought before the student committee, it has no bearing as to whether he accepted money or solicited money for his services as a football player. it has everything to do with painting him in a bad light and making it easier for “journalists” to sell their unsubstantiated stories.

Dumb A$$

November 10th, 2010
8:22 am

Well if the NY Times says its true it must be. NOT!

King Gator

November 10th, 2010
8:23 am

AJ Green scratches head and says why’d I do it for $1k… I should have gotten PAID!! Go Gators!

Dooley the Vol

November 10th, 2010
8:23 am

Wow, maybe Kiffy the wonder boy actually did something right. He backed off Cam and signed Simms. I never thought I would be happy with anything the old regime did, or in this case did not do.

SimpleDawg

November 10th, 2010
8:23 am

I wouldn’t be surprised at all if all of the allegations are true…..

There will probably be no resolution to any of this until after the season.

And then the heads will roll……

Paul in RDU

November 10th, 2010
8:24 am

Tony – I am not a big fan of yours, but this column is excellent and is one of your best. Bravo

King Gator

November 10th, 2010
8:25 am

I hope AU wins them all, Cam wins the Hiesman and then during the presentation turns down the trophy and says I took the $$ and I’m going to the NFL and the SEC, NCAA, etc can kiss his 1st round contract butt! Go Gators!

New York Time$

November 10th, 2010
8:26 am

This just breaking: UGA AD Greg McGarrity who was at the University of Florida when Scam Newton was in Gainesville, leaked the information to help the Glorious Bull(S)Dawgs.

Bama Fan #2

November 10th, 2010
8:27 am

$Cam Newton# is going to bury the cow college and I for one will ENJOY every minute of it!!
WELCOME TO PROBATION BOYS!! THANK YOU MSU AND FLORIDA!!

OkefenokeeDawg

November 10th, 2010
8:27 am

I think we know that Cam got caught cheating. He and his coach faced the media yesterday, and Cam wouldn’t talk about it. Obviously, if he hadn’t got caught, he would have said, “it’s a damn lie!”

But, as far as the cheating charges go, like Tony says, so what?

But, if the NCAA finds a money trail to Cam or his family from Auburn or anybody associated to Auburn, this great season will turn into an embarrassment. I hope not.

I hope if Auburn beats UGA, it runs the table and beats Oregon.

KEEPING IN REAL!!!!!

November 10th, 2010
8:27 am

All of you do know that Cams older brother plays for the Jacksonville Jaguars!!! So the money could have come from him!! Just a crazy thought. Maybe I shouldn’t have said that because that doesn’t fit the media’s or all the haters templet…….

ATL is NOT Tiger Town

November 10th, 2010
8:28 am

Below from Andy Staples on CNN.com…. I think there IS some doubt on whether Newton actually stole the laptop, based on the conflicting statements on how much he paid for it. And he wasn’t exactly cleared of the charges, he copped a plea.

“Newton has himself admitted that while a student at Florida in 2008, he threw a stolen laptop out the window of his dorm room when police came to question him about it. Newton has repeatedly denied stealing the laptop, which was taken from an unlocked room in Florida’s Springs Complex dorm. Newton told SI.com in April that he bought the laptop for $120. Later, he told ESPN.com he bought it for “about $500.” Newton entered a pre-trial diversion program that settled the legal matter.”

Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/writers/andy_staples/11/09/cam-newton-cheating-allegations/index.html?eref=sihp#ixzz14sy1UsTK

Dr. Love

November 10th, 2010
8:29 am

Why is Newton “untouchable” to the AJC? If he were a UGA player, yall would be fanning the flames (see A. J. Green, Ealey, King, etc.).

OkefenokeeDawg

November 10th, 2010
8:32 am

Bama Ran #2,

Haha! It’s sure fitting that you are “welcoming” Auburn to probation. Bama’s the poster-child of NCAA probation. Bet Bama has been “on probation” more years than “off probation” in the last 15 years . . .

Whoa, slow down, plus a memory

November 10th, 2010
8:32 am

A post here starts with ” he is likely guilty of something” and folks, in the USA, we don’t go with stuff like that. Just the opposite it is in the USA …………. innocent UNTIL proved guilty. Come on folks. Let the sytem play out.

UGA man here. I hope that we can do another UGA/Aubrun replica game ala 1970. The AJC Sunday headline back then was “Folks came to Auburn wondering where they would go ( TOP bowls ) and left wondering where UGA had been. UGA entered that game around 4-5. Sound familiar??? The alumni AND the UGA students ( one I was ) wanted Vince Dooley fired ……..BEFORE the game.

UGA that day ran the ball and ran the ball and ran the ball AND with a second team QB Paul Gilbert of Athens. They had Hesiman hopeful Pat Sullivan ( I really admired him and still do ) and wide out Terry Beasley and a great tight end.UGA won that day in Auburn like 38-21.

Class of 1971 & 73

Coach Mark "Helen Hunt Look a like" Rick

November 10th, 2010
8:32 am

Now do you see why we didn’t recruit this thug? We would rather have upstanding citizens like Christian LeMay. Uh….hold on a minute on that one please.

King Gator

November 10th, 2010
8:35 am

Coach Grantham just seen making “check please” sign in response to Cam Newton not choking vs UGA.

3rdN8

November 10th, 2010
8:36 am

OkefenokeeDawg

We seem to thrive on probation. But I have noticed that our WRs are slowed up a little by those ankle things.

JB

November 10th, 2010
8:38 am

I’m yawning……………………I’m yawning some more……………………Buzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz……..Great commercial……

merculf

November 10th, 2010
8:38 am

IS anyone looking into Cam’s initial recruitment to UF? If all of this is true than surely it didn’t start AFTER he left UF.How much did UF pay to get him to begin with? There has to be a pattern right? Can’t change..pardon the expression.. the stripes on a Tiger.

OkefenokeeDawg

November 10th, 2010
8:38 am

“No one in the SEC get’s scrutinized like Georgia because of 4 writers at this paper. Georgia will have a player stopped for a suspended D. Lic or a past due traffic fine, and this paper will do 10 stories on it”
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JB,

You’re exactly right. If there was a sniff of a pay-to-play story at UGA, the AJC would hire Bernstein and Woodward to come down and write an expose on it.

Anybody other than UGA, we’ll ignore it.

JB

November 10th, 2010
8:40 am

Back to the game…….My Dawgs will edge up to help with the run, Cam will pull up and stop and “flip” the Ball 60 yards to a wide open receiver for 6…………..That’s the nightmare I keep having

Coach Mark "Helen Hunt Look a like" Rick

November 10th, 2010
8:40 am

mercough, he went there because most teams were recruiting him as a TE. How much did UGA pay to get AJ? It didnt start with the jersey did it?

MURPHY

November 10th, 2010
8:41 am

Really interesting the Joe Shad report that aired on ESPN. Looks to me like the witch hunt might be getting close to the witch-Rev Newton appears to be involved more that first noted according to the Shad reports. This appears to be getting ugly for AU.

UGA recruiting coordinator

November 10th, 2010
8:42 am

Guess how much money we gave for Christian LeMays daddy’s church for renovation?

Big D

November 10th, 2010
8:42 am

As others have pointed out why did the SEC office sit on the story? This appears to be rotten and while you are pointing fingers how about the media. I saw you on ESPN yesterday mentioning sources but you did not name them. My opinion anyone in the media that repeats, and you did, a source said should be made to give the source or shut up. Now let the FBI look into it and media shut up.

Robert

November 10th, 2010
8:43 am

Where there’s smoke, there’s Meyer.

DawginLex

November 10th, 2010
8:43 am

Funny thing is Newton or Chizik never said that Newton didn’t cheat at Florida. Newton skated around it. Chizik just talked about his time at Auburn.

BIRDDAWGONE

November 10th, 2010
8:45 am

I never understood why an SEC fan would want another SEC school to go on Probation or get investigated by the NCAA, it just makes your conference look bad.
I wish reporters at the AJC were held to the same standards that you are preaching.

[...] Conventional Wisdom says it’s time for Mike Slive to lay down the law in the Newton matter.  No, not about rogue boosters offering recruits [...]

ga gator

November 10th, 2010
8:45 am

DawginLex, his time at AU is the only thing that is relevant. If the stories are true about him leaving UF because of cheating, he paid is pentence in JC and the only thing that is relevant is the recruitment at AU.

Dawgs2010

November 10th, 2010
8:46 am

Tony, please take your mouth off of Newton’s butt. I know Tebow isn’t around for you suck up to, but come on. Newton is a low-life thug and the Auburn needs to be punished for something. If AJ Green gets four games for selling a jersey what about Newton?

Personally I think you, TONY, are a fat piece of garbage and hope you drop dead on live television.

Family

November 10th, 2010
8:47 am

@ rokdawg

Hey moron, do a little bit of research before you post all of those ALLEGATIONS.
1. Newton never STOLE a laptop, he was guilty of buying stolen property, which was a laptop, and than throwing it out the window upon being questioned. Big difference. He Definitely wasnot a choir boy and a saint at Florida, but get your accusations right.

2. The ALLEGATIONS are that he cheated at Florida. Which very well might be true, and truthfully wouldnt shock me if they were. However, LaMichael James at Oregon was CONVICTED two years ago for choking and beating up his girlfriend. You don’t see ESPN and Fox Sports telling that story do you? Because Urban Creyer and his lil sissy boy Dan Mullen arent pumping that to them. Don’t know about you, but I’ll take cheating on a few tests/papers (which we all did) over an assault conviction on a female any day.

3. Again, allegations. If and when someone shows me telephone records and or financial statements reflecting these ALLEGATIONS, then I will agree with and support the hammer that comes down on Newton and Auburn. But until that day, the stars are too well aligned as to what all of this is, a smear campaign.

I believe in God, family, friends, and Auburn……….and love it!

War Eagle

JB

November 10th, 2010
8:47 am

Well, there’s only one thing left to do. AU needs to bench the young man until cleared . …….ha ha ha hahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa…… LMAO…………… Why doesn’t the SEC man up and pull him until cleared……Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa…..Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa……..Because they want a SEC in the big Game also…….All kidding aside, let’s all hope there is nothing to this, …but……..if true…………..AU is in deep you know what

Roaddawg80

November 10th, 2010
8:48 am

SO LET ME GET THIS STRAIGHT-

Last week you make a story about Grantham that was blown way out of proportion by you and called for him to be FIRED!

and…

This week you are saying this is a non story and there is NOW evidence in hand and you once again are calling for someone who leaked information to be fired. Talk about being power hungary!

That is why you are now lumped with all the other great AJC sports writers! How pathetic!

The voice from on High

November 10th, 2010
8:50 am

Dawgs2010

You forgot to mention that AJ IS A LIAR FOR DENYING THAT HE DID ANYTHING WRONG. Obviously Richt didnt believe him or he would have played.

ratherBgambling

November 10th, 2010
8:50 am

Great article Tony.

I find it a bit of a stretch that Cam could ask for 200K before he did anything on the field. He could get 200K now, not then.

mcdaviddawg

November 10th, 2010
8:50 am

While I love SEC football, this can go wherever it needs to. With at least two qtr backs in the league coming from situations where they had to leave there previous schools, the picture the SEC is not pretty. If we don’t want these kind of stories than the football teams need to act like they represent their attached institution. In fact many consider the colleges as invasions into their world. Let the chips fall where they may.

Cam Watch

November 10th, 2010
8:50 am

@KEEPING IN REAL!!!!!

Cecil Jr. has been put forward by Cecil Sr. as the source of the church remodeling funds. It is true that Cecil Jr. “plays” in the NFL, but that doesn’t mean that he is wealthy. He was not drafted. He was signed by Jacksonville in April of 2009 as an undrafted free agent. He was then cut from the team in September and he re-signed with Jax the next day as member of the team’s practice squad. He was subsequently promoted to the active roster in December of 2009.

He is not a multi-million dollar player. His expenses probably consume the lion’s share of his salary. There are higher paid NFL players who are currently in dire financial straits.

JB

November 10th, 2010
8:51 am

Maybe we’ll get some more stories about Grantham this week doing a choke sign to a kicker……..Boy, that a story the SEC ought to look into…….Geez

justwow$$$

November 10th, 2010
8:51 am

Agree with Big D @ 8:42 This even looks like the SEC office is dirty.God lord this may get ugly,ugly!!!

bamafan

November 10th, 2010
8:51 am

Folks – the federal privacy laws regarding student records do not apply to persons who have this information and gained it outside of their official duties. All that is required is for someone with no duty of care to have knowledge that Cam Newton was in trouble academically. This can happen with a leak from someone with a duty to not do so or it can come from a friend who knew that Cam Newton was facing academic sanctions. The fact that this info is now apparently public knowledge does not mean that there was a leak and does not mean that there is a violation of law. Tony – beginning to lose patience with you: First, Grantham needs a fine for his stupidity (an azz chewing was in order but who knows whether Mark Richt would do it?) and now you have indicted folks in Florida for illegal leaks of protected student information when the only evidence is that the information is now in the public domain. Remember, Mike Slive is a lawyer and you aren’t. I wouldn’t go to an auto mechanic for an illness and I sure wouldn’t see a sportwriter/blogger for a legal problem.

JB

November 10th, 2010
8:52 am

Any odds on him not playing Saturday?

jumbeauxtiger

November 10th, 2010
8:53 am

Good article Tony. I find it hard to believe that any coaches would have confirmed the cheating incidents. That would be dumb on their part. I would imagine they are busy anyway getting ready for the Gators’ biggest game of the season. Like other posters have said, there is no tellling how many other people knew about this.

I don’t think anything that Newton did at Florida has any relevance now. However the pay for play accusations do. I have a feeling this is going to get worse before it gets better.

Sam

November 10th, 2010
8:53 am

WOW!

Did I read one of you SEC blowhards saw “time to shut the whistleblowers down”??

I for one think that Cam Newton is totally devoid of integrity and do not feel bad for him that all of this is coming out. The SEC doesn’t need to keep its people quiet and in line, it NEEDS TO STOP CHEATING!

MURPHY

November 10th, 2010
8:54 am

JB,

To late to sit Cam now. Let him play.If he is found guilty it will cost AU Football 10 games anyway.Ride it out and see what happens.

JB

November 10th, 2010
8:54 am

well said Bamafan

BAMA dude

November 10th, 2010
8:54 am

IF… and I emphasize IF because we don’t know yet, these latest allegations are true and have been known since January then we won’t be hearing from Auburn for quite awhile. This would be the ultimate pathetic little brother move- big brother just won a MNC and is getting all the attention so we’ll grab this laptop thievin’, school cheatin’, bribe acceptin’ QB and play him during the investigation, all for one year of glory. Seriously- if this is true and Auburn knew before the season but played him anyway, how can you look at it as anything else?

3rdN8

November 10th, 2010
8:54 am

I hate stories like this. It is bad for Newton, Auburn, the SEC, and College football. But apparently this is not going away.

Here’s the dilema Auburn faces:

– Bama was slammed by the NCCA when a car dealer (Bama booster) in Memphis payed some high school coaches to assist in the recruitment of a player named Albert Means.

- Texas A&M was slammed by the NCCA when it turned out that a Dallas car dealer was found to have paid four A&M players for summer jobs, when they actually show up for work.

- The University of Washington was slammed by the NCCA when it turned out that a Seatle car dealer made a loan to a senior Washington QB, using his future NFL contract as collateral.

If I were Auburn, I’d be checking into car dealers.

ratherBgambling

November 10th, 2010
8:55 am

Family-

You want to talk about allegations? Meyer has denied any involvement, you and other Gator haters are spewing this ALLEGATION…………..hypocrites

Urban Myer

November 10th, 2010
8:56 am

Where’s there’s smoke, there’s Myer.
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You better watch you mouth, boy! “You and me will going at it!”

I’m a baaaaaad man!

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=5025822&source=ESPNUHeadlines

Gen Neyland

November 10th, 2010
8:57 am

Roaddawg80 : RE : Grantham. I read FINED, not FIRED. Did I miss something there or did you..? If I did, my bad.

BAMA dude

November 10th, 2010
8:58 am

ratherBgambling

November 10th, 2010
8:50 am
Great article Tony.

I find it a bit of a stretch that Cam could ask for 200K before he did anything on the field. He could get 200K now, not then.

Any scout could see that the guy is a beast with the ball in his hands. He was pretty much a unanimous choice for top JUCO recruit.

Bama Fan #2

November 10th, 2010
8:59 am

I hate Auburn just like 9 out 10 bama fans but what really makes me dislike the cow college
is when Saban got the job at Alabama AU fans started Operation Red Dog trying to say that
Bama was buying players in Alabama and giving them Dodge cars. Funny thing the shame
story took a funny ending stopped by the AU athletic dept when they were getting stories
about Auburn boosters PAYING for recruits!! RTR

JB

November 10th, 2010
8:59 am

Money……………..When Dooley,Shug,Bear,Majors coached, they all made about 100K a year, maybe.
You could sign 200 players…..No need to pay…Bear had 25 RB’s on the roster…………..Ahh, the good ole day’s…..75 million dollars in Revenue and 4 mil. dollar coach’s make people do crazy things !

MURPHY

November 10th, 2010
9:02 am

BAMA dude,

This Cam thing is getting uglier by the day.Did you happen to see the ESPN 30 ro 30 program on Marcus Dupree last night? Sounds a little like what is going on with Cam at AU right now.

Family

November 10th, 2010
9:04 am

@rather Bgambling
Dude, I could care less about what you cheesy, jort wearing, gold chain, Floridians do. Good for you have a great time with it. Though I cant prove it, just like NO ONE can PROVE any of these allegations against Newton and Auburn, I do believe Urban and Mullen to be behind this.

However, you are correct, this entire situation, at this point, is nothing more than allegations and media drivel.

Gen Neyland

November 10th, 2010
9:04 am

MURPHY : RE your 0854 to JB made me think that if Auburn is successful on the gridiron, it seems some 6 headed beast rears it’s ugly head and takes a bite out of their glory. Gotta be hexed…

TallyDawg

November 10th, 2010
9:05 am

Since when can a college student get caught cheating multiple times (not to mention criminal actions) and merely leave one school and transfer to another without any repercusions or consequences? Do the wrongs just go away if you drop out of your current school and apply at another. Wish I’d known that when I was in school. I was under the mistaken impression that my actions had consequences and were part of my record.

FAQS

November 10th, 2010
9:06 am

Reading the comments from UGA fans this morning, I hope Auburn wins by 700. I hope Cam Newton runs for 400 yards and 11 scores. Actually, I hope Cam Newton reads these comments. I’ve seen him play inspired football – I have yet to see him play angry football.

Oh, by the way, I am an agent and I promised AJ Greene I could get him $500,000 if he signed with Georgia. I’m a source. You can quote me in the papers. And I wrote his midterm. And I paid his parking tickets. And I bought him liquor and hookers. See all that smoke? There just HAS to be fire.

Listen folks, anyone can pick up the phone and claim that he/she has inside knowledge of a scandal. None of the reporters involved have done anything other than quote them in the paper. No research – no identification – no actual FACTS!! The only thing they have to go on is someone saying he claims to have known. The FIRTS story (Bond – Rogers) has already had huge holes poked in it (they never even spoke with each other, totally contradicting what Bond first claimed). The second story – if he cheated on exams at Florida – doesn’t affect Auburn. That could affect hi eligibility at Florida. Once he transferred to Blinn JC, that story was over. Then parking tickets? Seriously? Parking tickets? And now, another “unnamed source” has information that he wanted cash. If you’ve got inside information – come out with it. Produce evidence. Don’t give me more of this he said-she said garbage.

jj

November 10th, 2010
9:06 am

drive by dawg is right…

it really amazes me that if allegations or penalties happen to another team outside the sec then tony loves it, but if its with a darling for the sec he gets livid. tony, you are a hypocrit. pete carroll also said reggie did nothing wrong just like mr gene is spitting out loud. where there is smoke there is fire.

AU bounty hunter

November 10th, 2010
9:08 am

anyone know the whereabouts of Tide Rising? haven’t seen him since he said before last wknd that bama would run the table. the judge wants him to show up and take it like a man.

Roaddawg80

November 10th, 2010
9:11 am

Gen Neyland;

He did say fined and said if he did anything like that again that they should fire him immediately!

Clay

November 10th, 2010
9:11 am

There sure is a lot of smoke, the fire has to be around here some where. It may take a few years like it did with Reggie Bush and USC, but it’ll come out.

Shut up!

November 10th, 2010
9:11 am

and if none of this is true the media members who are writing the stories of heresay should lose their jobs and never work again until they see Jesus. You forgot that part, Tony.

NewnanDawg

November 10th, 2010
9:12 am

If you don’t want people to find out that you cheated and were about to be expelled…..don’t cheat. If it’s all a “grand conspiracy” and you did not cheat…deny it. Cam Newton “doesn’t want to talk about it.” End of story.

OkefenokeeDawg

November 10th, 2010
9:13 am

“I hope Auburn wins by 700.”
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Would that be a record?

Seriously, if the “FIRTS Story” has huge holes poked in it, why hasn’t the NCAA (investigating since August) already cleared Cam and Auburn?

David Granger

November 10th, 2010
9:13 am

If Cam Newton really were in danger of being expelled for cheating at UF, the only two departments that would know it are the athletic department and the office of academic affairs. Sure seems like the info had to come from one of those two places, and as you point out, Tony…leaking that kind of info is a federal crime. I hope the justice department will be just as diligent in finding the leak as the sports press is in digging up their stories.

tide rising

November 10th, 2010
9:15 am

Sorry, I only come on here when Bama wins and UGA loses.

Maybe next week?

TommyJack

November 10th, 2010
9:16 am

Oh how I wish Cam had gone to Bama.

Gregg T

November 10th, 2010
9:16 am

If, what if, who, when, someone said, where there’s smoke and so forth. It’s all just rumor and speculation. Everyone needs to keep their mouths shut and allow the authorities to do their work. If this man is guilty, that’s one thing, but what are all these bloggers going to say if/when it’s determined that it has all been just a ruse to deflect attention from Cam and/or get him too distracted to perform well against ALA. Now there is your story. One thing for sure, some slime from somewhere is going to rise to the surface, and I’ll put my money on it being someone besides Cam Newton.

richtfan

November 10th, 2010
9:16 am

mike slive needs to be more concerned with whether or not AU and the newtons are being straight with the ncaa and the sec office than he is about whether or not someone violated a federal privacy law.

and here is the thing……..if it’s true about newton and florida and why he left there, then there is no law violated. if it is an unfounded allegation, then that’s a different story.

Paul From Milton

November 10th, 2010
9:16 am

All the cheating stuff is secondary. This case comes down to whether or not the FBI and NCAA can tie the church renovation money to Auburn. If so, Auburn is in a lot of trouble. If not, it’s just a messy story that is unfair to many people and everyone moves on.

johnny fontane

November 10th, 2010
9:16 am

If Miss State “knew” that Cam was dirty, why did they keep recruiting him up until he signed with Auburn? Why did they not walk away? Bob Stoops has come out and said the there was nothing wrong with Olkahoma’s dealings with Cam and his family.

TallyDawg

November 10th, 2010
9:16 am

Apparently nowadays its OK to cheat until you get caught and then all you need to do is transfer to a different school and your slate is wiped clean. Who knew?

SECWasteManagement

November 10th, 2010
9:17 am

I like it Tony. Thank you for getting over that writers block that you were having.

DawginLex

November 10th, 2010
9:17 am

Agreed ga gator, BUT

If he is not denying it, then the assumption is that it is true. Therefore, he lied about why he left Florida. It had nothing to do with playing time but everything to do with cheating.

If he lied then, could he not lie again about the $$$$$$?

It busts him bad from a credibility standpoint. If he didn’t cheat at florida, say so.

Roaddawg80

November 10th, 2010
9:18 am

I for one am a UGA fan and will say that I hope CAM does play.

However, I am not going to sit here and say that he did do it or didn’t do it and I don’t think anybody is actually saying this(except for HS kids who should be in school right now).

But there is something fishy and it will all come out. Maybe not this week or this month or heck by the end of the year. I love how some of the media(i.e. Tony Barnhardt) calls people out for alledgely doing things but in fact it’s the media that is totally responsible. Maybe they should be fired!

I am just saying!

Oconee Dawg

November 10th, 2010
9:18 am

Here we go again Mr. Tony or should I say Dr. Barnhart. Don’t tell the public what should be done! Just report the facts to the public. Yes, Cam is a great football player. He should be in jail now instead of being considered as the best football player in college. He needs pin strips “black and white”.
He should be seen on side of the road pick up can and paper, etc…..
Maybe the Dawg fan will dress up in pin strips for the game Saturday.
GO DAWGS !

lil lol

November 10th, 2010
9:19 am

JB do you ever get off the blogs..24 hrs aday is JB– BS.
Yes it would really make alot of dawg fans happy if Cam couldn’t play…then your choked team may win.

NOT REALLY MR ANYTHING

November 10th, 2010
9:20 am

TONY, TONY, TONY. TOUGH GUY TONY. By writing about Newton you are just another reporter trying to get into the mix. You act as if the FBI is going to swoop down in Gainesville & pick-up Meyer by his collar. Well, it ain’t gonna happen, Tony boy.
Piece of advice: Stop over-reacting & find a real subject to write about.

Sven Ottke

November 10th, 2010
9:21 am

Tony, the SEC is not high school……but it’s the academic equivalent of high school.

JB

November 10th, 2010
9:21 am

Still worried about my Dawgs Saturday….could less about Auburn and their troubles, and they are NOT ours by the way……..To the guy who hopes Georgia loses by 700……..Screw you…..All we are is the next team on their schedule……….Cam is Not enrolled at UGA……He’s not our problem OFF the football field……. We’ll see enough of him Saturday. He is impressive.

BAMA dude

November 10th, 2010
9:22 am

MURPHY

November 10th, 2010
9:02 am
BAMA dude,

This Cam thing is getting uglier by the day.Did you happen to see the ESPN 30 ro 30 program on Marcus Dupree last night? Sounds a little like what is going on with Cam at AU right now.

Nah, missed that one. But yeah, I’m not sure ugly is a strong enough word.

Bama Fan #2

November 10th, 2010
9:22 am

The real story is about follow the money trail not who leaked inside information on
the cheating on term papers or stealing a labtop!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

NOT REALLY MR ANYTHING

November 10th, 2010
9:23 am

I don’t want the DAWGS to beat AU w/o Newton.

I want him to play –NO EXCUSES!!!

BEAT AU W/ NEWTON!! GO DAWGS!!!

BAMA dude

November 10th, 2010
9:23 am

Oconee Dawg

November 10th, 2010
9:18 am
Here we go again Mr. Tony or should I say Dr. Barnhart. Don’t tell the public what should be done! Just report the facts to the public.

This is not a news article, it is a blog post. Tony’s opinions are appropriately voiced in this forum.

OkefenokeeDawg

November 10th, 2010
9:23 am

If somebody wrongfully accused me of cheating, stealing, and breaking NCAA rules by accepting money to play football, and I got an audience with the media, as Cam did yesterday, I would say, in a loud voice, “these are damn lies. I have never cheated on tests, and I have never, ever been paid any money to play for Auburn!”

I wouldn’t sit there and do that “lawyer-speak” crap, “I won’t talk about any of that.” I would defend my honor, if I had any . . .

Maybe that’s just me, though.

MURPHY

November 10th, 2010
9:24 am

Gen Neyland,

It does seem that the AU program is snake bit. I feel bad for the Tiger fan’s.Lot of corruption in the sports world this day and time.Im sure it as always been there,but with the internet it is magnified greatly

BAMA dude

November 10th, 2010
9:25 am

Paul From Milton

November 10th, 2010
9:16 am
All the cheating stuff is secondary. This case comes down to whether or not the FBI and NCAA can tie the church renovation money to Auburn. If so, Auburn is in a lot of trouble. If not, it’s just a messy story that is unfair to many people and everyone moves on.

Not true. If it can be proven that Cam, Cecil, or a third party authorized by Cam and Cecil even TRIED to get pay for play then Cam is no longer an amateur and ineligible due to an agent relationship. Auburn would be forced to vacate all wins that Cam contributed to.

Kyle

November 10th, 2010
9:25 am

Tony should take off his SEC cheerleader outfit and put down his Mike Slive pom poms and get a reality check. The C in SEC stands for cheater.

JB

November 10th, 2010
9:26 am

Chisnik, their Russian coach, basically said that yesterday OkefenokeeDawg……..

WDE

November 10th, 2010
9:26 am

Haters, When you meet Cam Newton on Auburns campus he is quick with a smile and a handshake. He works harder than anyone here and is a devoted to this team more than anything. Even when the media was singing his praises he maintained that yes he did some things at UF he wasn’t proud of, but he has learned and changed from it. He wasn’t even kicked off UF’s team when the laptop story broke. So give it up and take a look in the passion in Gene Chizik’s speach yesterday, and the humility that Cam displayed in his. Then come talk to me.

cajdawg

November 10th, 2010
9:27 am

Let me say straight up that I’m a UGA fan and I have no animosity for Auburn. I save my hatred for UF and GT.

It boils down to this…if the father and/or son are on tape shaking down MSU and/or AU or admitting shaking down MSU and/or AU… then AU is in hot water.

WesDawg

November 10th, 2010
9:27 am

As soon as Auburn is out of it Cam will go down.

Ross

November 10th, 2010
9:28 am

The problem here is much deeper than that. The problem is that this kid has serious charcter flaws. It is coming out now that he AND his dad asked Miss St for money there. The NCAA needs to immediately sanction this young man, after all, they busted AJ Green up for far less. The leak from Fla was wrong, however, it does go hand in hand with the theft of the lap top and the trail of unscrupulous behaviour by this young man.

Old Dawg

November 10th, 2010
9:28 am

Can we just play some football and forget the soap operas?

FAQS

November 10th, 2010
9:28 am

To JB

I was the one who said I hope Auburn wins by 700. And it’s because of whiny UGA “fans” like you.

When someone decides to bring some facts, actual FACTS, about Cam’s recruitment or anything else that could jeopardize his eligibility (parking tickets and term papers don’t cut it) then we’ll see what happens. Everyone on here is already saying he’s guilty when there isn’t a single shred of evidence.

Has anyone started investigating AJ Green yet? I told you I brokered a half million dollar deal for him. So much smoke …

Miles

November 10th, 2010
9:29 am

“And if the academic story about Newton is true, so what?” Mr. Barnhart, ARE YOU OUT OF YOUR MIND?

AS IT RELATES TO MORAL INTEGRITY, THE ONLY INTEGRITY IN QUESTION IS CAM NEWTON’S!

BAMA dude

November 10th, 2010
9:29 am

WDE

November 10th, 2010
9:26 am
Haters, When you meet Cam Newton on Auburns campus he is quick with a smile and a handshake. He works harder than anyone here and is a devoted to this team more than anything. Even when the media was singing his praises he maintained that yes he did some things at UF he wasn’t proud of, but he has learned and changed from it. He wasn’t even kicked off UF’s team when the laptop story broke. So give it up and take a look in the passion in Gene Chizik’s speach yesterday, and the humility that Cam displayed in his. Then come talk to me.

LMMFAO. He smiles, shakes hands, works hard, and is not a crook. Does he happen to kiss babies too? Urban Meyer = Deep Throat?

Top Recruit

November 10th, 2010
9:30 am

Gee, I wished I’d been a journalism or philosophy major rather than a business major. Yeah, the investigation of causes and laws underlying reality. Do you want us to cry about the situation at Auburn? Not hardly, after the way the AJC and others beat the hell out of us over a player selling a jersey to an alleged agent, some traffic violations that the AJC thinks should be tried in Federal Court, and a coach touching his neck. Tony if there is nothing here why has the NCAA not resolved this matter by now? And why are there three schools involved in this…perhaps more. It took awhile for the NCAA and the Pac 10 to resolve the Bush matter. But once the whispers, allegations, and etc became a drum beat, it was hard to ignore the facts. The SEC office wants a national contender from the conference, a calf with no blemishes [since you injected religion into this], and a SEC team playing in the national title game…in other words the matter is on hold and the whispers continue.

Red Panty Lover

November 10th, 2010
9:30 am

I confess…I did it. I am taking everyone down with me. I even ratted out Caleb King!

WWVD (What Would Vince Do?)

November 10th, 2010
9:31 am

If you’re looking for wrong-doing and a long history of sleaze, look no further than Athens.

In the 1986 Jan Kemp trial, O. Hale Almand Jr., a lawyer for UGA, offered a justification for the favorable treatment accorded the athletes, citing a hypothetical player. “We may not make a university student out of him,” he told the jury, “but if we can teach him to read and write, maybe he can work at the post office rather than as a garbageman when he gets through with his athletic career.”

That trial exposed UGA for the football factory that it was, and exposed Vince Dooley as a fraud and a sleazebag. It also derailed Dooley’s plans for a political career. That’s why we see the decrepit old fraud doing TV commercials even now.

Mark Richt is just the latest in a line of sleazy UGA coaches who coddle athletes and discard them after four years of football. He recruits illiterate morons he knows aren’t smart enough for college, but he doesn’t care, as long as they help him line his pockets with millions of dollars each year.

Suntanned Saint Mark isn’t all he appears to be, is he?

Will

November 10th, 2010
9:32 am

Slive will do nothing because Auburn is the only shot they have for the mythical NC. Also, UGA is not only going to be playing Auburn but the referees and the SEC hierarchy. I guarantee you UGA will get screwed by the refs several times in this game.

SlimeDawg Millionaire

November 10th, 2010
9:32 am

Ross,
What proof? There isn’t any. The NCAA sanctioned A.J. because he was found with absolute evidence (and a guilty plea) of his wrongdoing. The NCAA has had information on these allegations on Newton since January. And they haven’t even sent a letter of inquiry to Auburn yet. They didn’t even send a warning to sit him until they investigate further. They seem to think there’s nothing there yet. Certainly they may find something. But they haven’t yet. Let the facts come out before anyone is convicted.

OkefenokeeDawg

November 10th, 2010
9:32 am

“It does seem that the AU program is snake bit”
********************************
Murphy,

Seems you get snake bit a lot more if you keep putting yourself close to a snake.

http://ncaafootball.fanhouse.com/2007/07/24/footballs-dirtiest-programs-8-auburn/

JB

November 10th, 2010
9:32 am

FAQS….. I’ll write you a check for a 100.00 if you can find anywhere on here this morning where “I” have accused him of any of this…..If fact, you’ll see where I have 2 or 3 times said I hope it’s not true….
I don’t lump all anti Georgia bloggers as a$$ holes, don’t lump me as whiney.

lil lol

November 10th, 2010
9:33 am

All this BS was started by a mad x-agent who told Mr Bond x QB at MSU, cam would cost big $$$ ? Mr Bond tells Mr Evans, ESPN reporter who didn’t like Cam and don’t wont Cam to win Heisman so he puts out the story in his on words. Then everyone that thinks they know something throw more dirt laundry on cam. Just keeps the crap going…..

Everyone one of you out there that said you never cheated in school is a damn lier!

Al

November 10th, 2010
9:33 am

You might want to do more research Barnhart. Yes, everyone is claiming that this is a violation of privacy law, but in fact it is not. A Georgia Supreme Court case about the Red and Black and student disciplinary hearings at UGA determined that the Federal privacy rules, specifically the Buckner Amendments that are being implemented in the Newton situation do not apply to student disciplinary situations.

RED & BLACK PUBLISHING COMPANY, INC. et al. v. BOARD OF REGENTS et al.; and vice versa., 262 Ga. 848, 427 S.E.2.d 257 (1993)

The Barn is Burning

November 10th, 2010
9:33 am

It is sad how the Barn’s coaches and administration are so desperate to get out of Big Brother’s shadow that they will go to this length to win. The Camburgler is obviously a high character guy (uh-hum, insert sarcasm here) and deserves all of the praise that has been rained down on him over the past week. I am amazed that the cow college’s top brass would even go here win though. This is a no brainer- if you knew about all this, then why risk everything for one glorious season?! Sorry Little Brother, maybe you’ll catch a break in 10 years or so, when you are able to get your full allotment of schollys again. Cuz you, along with Toomber’s TP, are going to be burning until then…

The Plain Truth

November 10th, 2010
9:35 am

Tony Geinzer

November 10th, 2010
9:35 am

Cam Newton walks, talks, acts and behaves like a Dog! Enough Said, Tony.

OkefenokeeDawg

November 10th, 2010
9:36 am

“Haters, When you meet Cam Newton on Auburns campus he is quick with a smile and a handshake.”
***************************
By all accounts, so was Reggie bush . . .

Yet another GT idiot

November 10th, 2010
9:36 am

Coach Mark “Helen Hunt Look a like” Rick

November 10th, 2010
8:32 am
Now do you see why we didn’t recruit this thug? We would rather have upstanding citizens like Christian LeMay. Uh….hold on a minute on that one please.

You must think getting a bj from a student and stealing someones property are the same. You must be an idiot.

Cam Watch

November 10th, 2010
9:36 am

@JB

Why are you implying that the University of Alabama has anything to do with this story? Whatever the facts are, it is obvious that this whole affair revolves around Florida,Mississippi State and Auburn.

As the allegations continue to mount, it is obvious that much more is known about this situation than has yet been revealed. In hindsight, there are many problems with the Cam Newton rehabilitation story that was generated by the Auburn PR Department last Spring after Newton signed with Auburn.

The first unexplained anomaly was the manner in which Cam left Florida. The Newtons said that he “chose” to leave after Tebow decided to remain for his Senior season. Then it was revealed that Cam had already resigned from Florida well before Tim Tebow ever made that decision. Why did the Newtons lie about this?

The allegations about academic problems should not have been revealed by anyone employed by the University of Florida, and yet (as has been pointed out by several posters) the source for this story could well have been a friend or teammate of Cam’s. If the story were not true, then why didn’t Cam explicitly deny the charges during his press conference yesterday, rather than refusing to comment? We are left to believe that Cam only left Florida because Urban Meyer didn’t think that he had the talent to play for the Gators. I’m not buying Urban’s preference for Brantley based upon athletic ability alone. That dog just don’t hunt. I can respect Meyer’s decision to let sleeping dogs lie and allow the kid a second chance at a Junior College. Had he stayed at Blinn, all of his previous problems at Florida would have been a non-story. But his Dad knew that a career at Blinn (even with a National Championship) wouldn’t garner Cam a first round NFL contract.

The next big anomaly was the sudden, late decision to go to Auburn, after Cam had all but committed to MSU. It is true that Auburn has a better football pedigree than MSU, historically speaking, but in 2010, the programs were on fairly equal footing. MSU was on the rise with Coach Mullen taking over the program and Auburn was still in the process of putting together the pieces of their football program after Tuberville’s chaotic exit. The head-to-head match-up between these teams implies that MSU would have beaten Auburn with Cam Newton on the opposite sideline.

Did MSU pay for Newton’s services and get shafted? I dunno. Did Auburn (not the institution, but a booster) pay for Newton’s services? Again, I dunno. I wouldn’t be shocked to learn that Auburn committed no recruiting violations related to Cam Newton, but if any shopping was going on, then Cam is ineligible — even if he personally had no knowledge of the shopping.

Auburn fans argue that the timing of this story is suspect. I’m more inclined to believe that the writers merely wanted all of their ducks in a row before they exposed the story to the public. I can see why the SEC would want to sweep this story under the rug, but it’s out now and I only expect more to be revealed in the coming days and weeks. Too many things just don’t add up.

McDawg

November 10th, 2010
9:38 am

BAMA dude

November 10th, 2010
9:39 am

I obviously don’t know what will come of all this, but the FBI getting involves definitely turns up the heat on the story. I don’t see this ending well at this point.

FAQS

November 10th, 2010
9:39 am

Idiot doesn’t know more and more sources are coming out with the same story….hahah

Just another ‘anti Auburn’ conspiracy…

Dirty Dawg

November 10th, 2010
9:39 am

I don’t know what the truth of any of this is and neither does anybody else posting here. What I do believe is that some of the ‘motivations’ that Barnhardt listed in the middle of his piece seem reasonably legitimate and I’m not surprised that people that may, indeed, know something feel that the world should know the truth – and I don’t mean distortions of the truth like we just experienced during this political campaign.

As for the SEC and Tony’s comment about it not happening elsewhere…not sure what he meant by that either given the Reggie Bush mess and that Mezoli – or whatever his name is – guy that’s now at Ole Miss…or all the crap that the ACC has had to endure – North Carolina, FSU, Miami – you name it. The thing that gets me is that too many of these kids get to thinking that their crap doesn’t stink and that they can cut corners and even break the law and get away with it….and then after some passing of time – or in the case of Mezoli, no passing of time – can resume their careers as if nothing happened. Here’s Ole Miss gong out of its way to get a proven QB into school that had been kicked out of Oregon for another ‘lap-top’ episode…SEC schools rationalized that young Cam Newton, regardless of his past transgressions and because he was an unbelievable athlete, was a new man and worthy of a scholarship offer…and now I hear that still more SEC schools have decided that Zack Mettlenburger’s (sp?) little channeling of Big Ben by sexually assaulting a coed at Valdosta State, and lying about it, but has had a terrific year in JC somewhere in Kansas, is now also ‘forgiven’ (sound familiar?) and they’d love to have him come ‘throw’ for them. To me, that’s where the issue lies. Schools that haven’t as yet met their ‘embarrassment’ quota over kid’s behavior that rationalize their way into situations like this. Auburn, if you knew this stuff and convinced yourselves that the risk was worth it, then you deserve whatever happens when the ‘truth outs’…if you didn’t, then your compliance people have let you down…regardless, I hope it all works out and I hope the young man plays out the season and I hope Georgia beats ‘em this Saturday and Alabama later on and LSU loses to Florida or South Carolina in the SEC Championship and TCU or Boise State plays Oregon in the NC game. Maybe that’ll force the ‘powers’ to make some more changes in deciding how the NC should be determined.

JB

November 10th, 2010
9:39 am

Cam Watch @9:36……Tell me please where I posted anything about Bama this AM…..There is another JB on here who signs off at the bottom with HBTD….every time….

murfdawg

November 10th, 2010
9:40 am

Isn’t it interesting that all this comes out after Bama gets beat by USC and LSU and they are out of the MNC conversation. Isn’t it interesting that all this comes out after Ingram is not even a whisper in the Heisman conversation. Who is always jealous of anything that little brother Aubie does? Not MSU, not UF, not UGA. Slive needs to look out his window toward Tuscaloosa.

Gatorhater

November 10th, 2010
9:40 am

Tony,
It did happen in the PacTen with Reggie Bush. Let’s hope the NCAA moves more swiftly this time around. I agree the whole thing is suspect and the release of the academic performance records/alleged cheating, for this student is shameful.
It would probably be a good idea for Slive to get involved. Hopefully, he would also hold those found to be guilty, responsible.

MURPHY

November 10th, 2010
9:40 am

WDE,

I dont think his personality has been questioned here.I thinks its cool the way interacts with the fan’s.He is a very likeable guy.I seem to have the opinion most of these issue were caused by his father.This opinion is just from the media reports I have read.

GT Nerd

November 10th, 2010
9:41 am

You mean, getting a bj is legal?

Mike

November 10th, 2010
9:42 am

I agree with rokdawg: Where there’s smoke, there’s usually fire. Come on NCAA, put this to bed quickly before the crap slinging gets any worse.

murfdog

November 10th, 2010
9:43 am

murfdawg

November 10th, 2010
9:40 am
Isn’t it interesting that all this comes out after Bama gets beat by USC and LSU and they are out of the MNC conversation….

Ahh. No.

Investigation has been ongoing for weeks. Keep trying to deflect from the ‘pay for play’ player…

Jim

November 10th, 2010
9:44 am

The Newtons will not sue anyone, not now or ever. They will never EVER bring this case to a courtroom. I can guarantee you that. Not sure what Barnhart has at stake here, why he is so adamant about purporting the “Cam is such an innocent victim” side of this….could be the CBS affiliation since Verne and Gary pretty much deified Newton on TV each Saturday. But, you can say that laws were broken etc…but I can promise you this: The Newtons will never put this story in a courtroom. So you can call this slander, violation of federal privacy laws, whatever….but the truth is that the Newtons want this to go away as soon as possible. This publicity was never part of the deal.

GT Nerd

November 10th, 2010
9:44 am

GT Nerd

November 10th, 2010
9:41 am
You mean, getting a bj is legal?

If that is so, I won’t have to do it to myself anymore…

Gatorzone

November 10th, 2010
9:45 am

TallyDawg, your name would not be Jason/David would it?

SEC LEAST

November 10th, 2010
9:46 am

Hey Tony, do you get a vote in what will replace the SEC championships this year?

With all the cheating and the laughable play of the teams in the SEC Least, I hear they are considering an All-U-Can-Eat Fried Fish contest with Fat Phil as promoter and judge. That would at least give rocky top something to finally cheer about and would be more entertaining than the Monster Truck or Gun&Knife shows they are considering.

Joe Bob Thibodaux

November 10th, 2010
9:46 am

THANK YOU MR. COLLEGE FOOTBALL!

CAM is the best college football player in the nation at this time, so he attracts distractors. He seems to have made some mistakes earlier in life, but the past is the past, and his time at BLINN, Texas, should release him from his past transgressions. He wasn’t prosecuted.

I suppport CAM for Heisman. He should not be presumed anything. If allegations were anything, then these AJC blogs could prevent anyone from playing football.

THIS IS AMERICA.

GO LSU TIGERS!

JBT

Dawg Gonnit

November 10th, 2010
9:46 am

So USC received a slap on the wrist and Reggie Bush had to return the Heisman how many years after the actual infractions occurred? And in that situation, the whole world KNEW his family got paid. If there is any kind of money trail to Cam’s family, nothing is going to come of it any time soon. Let’s play ball, end the season and move on. I for one want to see if the Dawgs can beat Auburn with Cam. If we don’t I hope Cam and Auburn win out. Go Dawgs!!

Bama12

November 10th, 2010
9:47 am

Cam should have known the famous Auburn statement from Sixty Minutes Keep it down home CUZ!!!

Alpha Dawg

November 10th, 2010
9:47 am

Tony,
What federal privacy law are you referring to? I’m not aware of any law that criminalizes leaking information about someone cheating.

JB

November 10th, 2010
9:47 am

Georgia, at 5-5, has no dog in this hunt except to try and salvage a horrible season. If we were say 9-1, there would be lot’s on the table. I do know there are 3 teams in the SEC who are pulling for the DAWGS BIG TIME this weekend……

Georgia

November 10th, 2010
9:47 am

m… your a complete phag.

Duh'Quan Poohkraine

November 10th, 2010
9:48 am

Notice that Florida was involved in both instances! What a scum bag program they run down there… PATHETIC.

GT Nerd

November 10th, 2010
9:48 am

Georgia

November 10th, 2010
9:47 am
m… your a complete phag.

I know, but is giving yourself a bj illegal?

takedowndawg

November 10th, 2010
9:49 am

Bill, so what you are saying is when an SEC team dominates an ACC team in an inter conference game, we are paying off the referees? That type of logic is very little league on your part. Face it, the coaches in the SEC are among the best in the nation as are its athletes. Look how other conferences have faired against the SEC in the past 10-15 years(with very few exceptions). Ohio State for example. They dominate their conference, year after year, but fall far short when facing an SEC opponent. They have the nations largest student enrollment and largest athletic budget to work with. Their budget dwarfs most 1A school’s budget with the exception of Florida and USC/CA. An yet the SEC has their number. You wonder why the SEC has so many teams that DON’T go undefeated within conference; there is a reason for that. The level of competition is the primary reason both on a coaching level and player level. Sure, Bill, the SEC cheats!!!! Sure, you are on the right track!!! Please Bill, think a little deeper. I believe that you can.

Snack Shack

November 10th, 2010
9:49 am

Help me to understand….you’ve written a story condemning an unknown person who “leaked” information to a media person, who, in turn wrote a story about this unsupported information….is that right? Now you advocate a “come to Jesus” meeting orchestrated by the SEC Commissioner…to include, who? Media people, who started the process from the beginning? BS!
I use to have a semblence of respect for your sports knowledge and writings, sir, but you lost me forever with the article you wrote about Grantham. You’re just like the rest of the media…and lawyers…will do anything to further your income.

GT Nerd

November 10th, 2010
9:50 am

Duh’Quan Poohkraine

November 10th, 2010
9:48 am
Notice that Florida was involved in both instances! What a scum bag program they run down there… PATHETIC.

And you were not suprised when the proud UF played a felon against UGA? Then the gator fans try to compare a felony to a speeding ticket.

Another Dawg

November 10th, 2010
9:50 am

And here I thought Barnhart had figured something out on his own. Oh well.

Here’s the real scoop on breaking federal law: the Birmingham US Attorney’s office is launching an investigation into fraud, tax evasion, and conspiracy. At the very least, Newton is going to wind up inelligible. If he dodges that bullet, he’ll have to lie to federal investigators (a little charge called perjury.)

And there are likely hundreds of people who had knowledge of Cam Newton’s academic dishonesty; no one leaked records, they leaked rumors. Want to know how you know it’s all true? How mum was his snake father was when asked about it? “I wasn’t there.” Hilarious.

Snoop Dawg

November 10th, 2010
9:51 am

Barnhardt…federal laws dont cover rumors coming from athletes and students…just happens the rumor was true. But all Newts prior history should be taken into account for the Heisman. He’s not a role-model.

Cam Watch

November 10th, 2010
9:51 am

@JB

References to Bear Bryant and to Nick Saban’s salary strike me as implication that Bama is somehow involved in this story. Alabama has had their own problems in the past, but this story doesn’t involve Bear Bryant, Nick Saban or the University of Alabama.

JB

November 10th, 2010
8:59 am

Money……………..When Dooley,Shug,Bear,Majors coached, they all made about 100K a year, maybe.
You could sign 200 players…..No need to pay…Bear had 25 RB’s on the roster…………..Ahh, the good ole day’s…..75 million dollars in Revenue and 4 mil. dollar coach’s make people do crazy things !

Amelia Island

November 10th, 2010
9:51 am

)))) 51-7 (((((

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

FAQs

November 10th, 2010
9:51 am

To the other person posting as FAQS, nice originality.

And yes – more and more “sources” are coming out. I have 800 friends that will come out soon and support the fact that AJ Greene signed for a $500,000 payday. I can get hundreds of “sources” too.

Rob

November 10th, 2010
9:52 am

Great post, Tony. You hit the nail on the head.

RJ

November 10th, 2010
9:52 am

Tony
If Cam cheated 2 years ago then it shows him and his dad might be cheating now with his signing with Auburn.With every coming out of Miss St lets let the NCAA investigate.While it may be aginst the law to leak info it also shows he might have cheated before so why not cheat now too.

lewisiii@gmail.com

November 10th, 2010
9:55 am

Tony, honestly I don’t think Mike Slive survives this. Based on what’s been released so far, it appears the SEC was notified of recruiting issues early in 2010, whether by MSU, Auburn or both. The SEC permitted Auburn to do it’s own investigation and didn’t pass the info on to the NCAA. Surprise, Auburn finds no wrongdoing and Cam stays eligible and plays.

Either more info leaked out, or Meyer/Mullen/someone is upset the allegations didn’t go anywhere and contacts the NCAA and this thing starts heating up again. Slive said his first priority was to ensure no schools were on probation. I guess he wanted to sweep this under the rug.

It means nothing for Auburn’s AD or coaches to repeat “Cam is eligible”. They did their own investigation. NCAA is digging deeper, and they don’t need a hell of a lot of proof or admissions from Coaches to be convinced something happened. See USC.

Auburn will burn.

scary

November 10th, 2010
9:55 am

got a word for ya Tony, nobody is afraid of you, you don’t run anything and you do not have the authority….the Lawyer up part was pretty comical though…

DawginLex

November 10th, 2010
9:56 am

Revised SEC standings if Newton is declared ineligible

LSU 9-0
Arkansas 8-1
KY 6-4
MSU 8-1
Ole miss 5-4

UGA might have to play Auburn with an eligible QB. They would be the only team to do so thus far. Just our luck.

Les Miles is behind all of this.

DawginLex

November 10th, 2010
9:57 am

And south Carolina is now 7-2

Get Real Tony

November 10th, 2010
10:00 am

Tony, there are plenty of stories that aren’t relevant to a student athletes eligibility. Do you want them all gone? Your own employer, the AJC, frequently writes anything possible about UGA players’ university discipline. You didn’t get upset at that.

jumbeauxtiger

November 10th, 2010
10:01 am

Bamadude,

You said the FBI is involved. Where did you see that at as I must have missed it.

Cam Watch

November 10th, 2010
10:03 am

Gatorzone

November 10th, 2010
10:03 am

Snack Shack

November 10th, 2010
9:49 am
Help me to understand….you’ve written a story condemning an unknown person who “leaked” information to a media person, who, in turn wrote a story about this unsupported information….is that right? Now you advocate a “come to Jesus” meeting orchestrated by the SEC Commissioner…to include, who? Media people, who started the process from the beginning? BS!

My thoughts EXACTLY!

What a Hack!

JASon

November 10th, 2010
10:04 am

“But if the story is true, somebody just broke federal privacy laws in releasing that information.”

But that’s not going to stop you from writing about it. You media people are the scum of the earth.

What?

November 10th, 2010
10:04 am

Attention bob at 7:56…Please spare me the comparisons of College Football to slavery. It is not like College Football coaches board the Amistad, sail to Africa, capture, and bring the players over here at gunpoint. Sweet lord man. Do you not think that these players lives are improved by playing college football–even if they don’t make it to the NFL?

You should be embarrassed for making such a comment. WTF is wrong with you anyway?

RJ

November 10th, 2010
10:04 am

Enter your comments here

MURPHY

November 10th, 2010
10:06 am

DawginLex,

What a mess this will be if they wait untill next year to act on any wrong doing.Could cost some of Auburn,s opponents alot of money if it’s not straightend out soon.

Don

November 10th, 2010
10:06 am

When I was a young boy during World War II the army used to come on the street where my uncle lived and they used artificial smoke and would smoke up the neighborhood. It was a practice session and the smoke was not caused by fire but by artificial means. So where there is smoke there is not always a fire and those who think that are pretty immature and childish. I believe this is all a smoke screen to try to get in the heads of the Auburn football players. It will not work because of the coaching staff at Auburn. They are good at their job and will stay the path. Dream on Bama and GA fans but the freight train is coming.

The Grinch

November 10th, 2010
10:06 am

Kind of makes all the nonsense in yesterday’s blogs about how Mark Richt screwed up by recruiting Newton as a TE seem rather irrelevant, now doesn’t it?

Driving Ms Dooley

November 10th, 2010
10:08 am

Tony, YOU ARE BACK. You nailed it. I was yelling at the TV yesterday when ESPN reported this crap. It has nothing to do with this year. My first thought was “why is ESPN trying to destroy this guy?”

The guy on ESPN was basically saying that Heisman Voters must consider these charges from 2 or 3 or however many years ago. Huh? Are you kidding me with this crap? It waters down the Heisman which I have already lost interest in. I hope they give it a defensive back from the Big Ten. Or better yet–Boys Easy State.

I’m over it. I hope Auburn runs the table because I am equally disgruntled with the BCS. I don’t understand the attacks.

When was the last time that a player came along that was this much better than the rest of the pack. When you watch him, he looks like a 15 yr old playing in the 12 and under league. Please don’t say Tebow, because Tebow was just a fullback and a great leader.

Cam has passing skills, open field moves and speed to burn. I don’t care what ALMOST happened to him at Florida.

I hope Slive is the man who can stop all the crap from raining down on this guy. I’m starting to lose faith. Maybe I’ll turn on a Denver game.

GaDawgs7

November 10th, 2010
10:08 am

If its true, whats the big deal? He only stole, lied, cheated, and took money. It’s not like he gave a choke sign to a kicker or something

Farquare

November 10th, 2010
10:10 am

Take what Herschel Walker was paid in his day and inflate it to current dollars, it would be at least as much as Newton was asking, probably more.

UGA, winner of the Fulmer/Richt Cup and the infamous title of The Cesspool of the South.

Cam Watch

November 10th, 2010
10:10 am

Is it true that Cam actually stole (rather than purchasing) the laptop that spawned this entire drama? I dunno.

What is becoming clearer and clearer is the fact that the Newton family has repeatedly lied about Cam’s circumstances since the time that he was enrolled at Florida. If the Newtons have been willing to lie about issues that don’t even affect Cam’s eligibility to play NCAA football, then one has to question their honesty in matters that actually do affect his college career.

What?

November 10th, 2010
10:10 am

Now to the story. Lots and lots of smoke…dare I say more smoke even then the AJ story?

This is a big deal. If he wanted to be paid to sign with a school…he should absolutely get in trouble.

My question is did the payment light suddenly go on AFTER he left Florida–or was it always on? If it was always on…how did Florida sign him in the first place? Maybe Florida did release the cheating information to further discredit Cam and Mr. Newton for the inevidible point where his original signing bonus is uncovered. If I was Florida and paid good money to sign this kid only for him to screw up royally…I would be really angry at him for seeking a second payday all because he screwed me over.

Barack Dawg

November 10th, 2010
10:11 am

Joe Pa – you are just mad because you won another game to give you 400 wins that no one gives a fat rats ass about. The Big Ten is irrelevant period. You guys could not beat the SEC in the BCS title game even if you cheated. So go have the nurse check your diaper.

JD

November 10th, 2010
10:12 am

Since all of this info was from years ago, the only common thread is that Cam Newton is in the running for the Heisman Trophy and Auburn plays Georgia this weekend. (Doubt that Chattanooga knew anything) I also doubt that Georgia could pull this off unless McGarity was behind it, so it focuses on the Heisman. Florida has a dog in that fight since they would not want him to win it after leaving Gainesville. There is alot of school jealousy when another school has the Heisman. One thing is for sure, they will probably not find out who released the academic info unless they arrest the sports reporter who published the info. (Sounds good to me)

Gatorzone

November 10th, 2010
10:13 am

GaDawgs7 LOL!!!
Take the Bowden approach… We don’t have time for all of these distractions, we got a game to play Saturday!

Jdawg

November 10th, 2010
10:15 am

Let’s just say the allegations are true and he’s stripped of his scholarship at worst. Some defunct NFL team will offer him a multi-million dollar contract. It’s high time that the NCAA stopped being the farm system for the NFL.There are to many kids out there that are much more worthy of a free education than the thugs that are recieving them.

BAMA dude

November 10th, 2010
10:15 am

jumbeauxtiger

November 10th, 2010
10:01 am
Bamadude,

You said the FBI is involved. Where did you see that at as I must have missed it.

Sorry I didn’t see this right way but looks like Cam Watch linked you at 10:03.

BAMA dude

November 10th, 2010
10:16 am

Me

November 10th, 2010
10:18 am

Can’t see this going on in the pac-10? what about the reggie bush incident and the years USC was put on probation? This is a non-story as far as Auburn and Cam are concerned…. Think the Bulldogs of Georgia are in trouble this weekend, and MSU bulldogs will be for the next few seasons!

SouthGADawg

November 10th, 2010
10:18 am

He is another Michael Vick. Great football player and just a thug at heart. Dawgs win Saturday. He is a one man show and really good at what he does. I think it will be a good game if UGA comes prepared. Go Dawgs

BAMA dude

November 10th, 2010
10:19 am

This is a non-story as far as Auburn and Cam are concerned….

No, it’s not. Cam may very well be ineligible to play thus forfeiting every game Auburn played him in.

Cam Watch

November 10th, 2010
10:19 am

@Jdawg

That is the truly sad aspect of this entire fiasco. Even if it is eventually proven beyond any reasonable doubt that Cam Newton was shopped around by his Father, he will exit the scene with a huge NFL contract and Auburn University will be left holding the bag — just like Reggie Bush at USC.

south eastern chumps

November 10th, 2010
10:19 am

Cam is a nice looking kid, got a great future in the NFL and even Hollywood who knows, but integrity and character are part of the Heisman trophy and that remains iffy leaning toward not a good idea in Cam’s regard. Auburn has to deny and downplay because what would be next is Cam would become an ineligible player, it is not just about not winning the Heisman. Then of course, sanctions against Auburn as well. But for grown men in the sportwriting business upset that the Heisman stands for integrity and this player might not fit that bill is shameful. When the laptop went out the window while at Univ of FL, that was the first eyebrow raised on integrity. It is what it is. You know if you want to Tony you can suggest to the college awards committe to give out another trophy for best player where no integrity is involoved whatever. In fact, you can have a rap sheet a mile long. Between the SEC and Pac 10, should be plenty of candidates. Would that make you feel better?

wesleywhatwhat

November 10th, 2010
10:20 am

so an SEC school finds a thug who steals laptops and cheats at another school, and pays him to play football at their school.

is anyone surprised?

Buzz

November 10th, 2010
10:20 am

The breaking news is Newton left UF after getting caught with Foley’s underage daughter in a G’ville hotel room. Come on guys you don’t believe it?? Heck I heard it on the internet , it was leaked by one of the cleaning ladies at the hotel and UF and the SEC have been covering it up!

Chad

November 10th, 2010
10:20 am

this was too long. can i get the cliff notes?

Jiggy Smaha

November 10th, 2010
10:21 am

Keep defending Auburn and Newton, Tony—but two years down the line when Auburn has to “vacate” the victories it has bought–please have the decency to admit how wrong you were “back in the day.”

uga_alum2004

November 10th, 2010
10:22 am

Tony,
First of all let me say that I have enjoyed your columns and insight through the years and have often agreed and respected your views. However, I cannot agree with your views on your last two columns printed in the AJC. This is mainly due to the fact that you have strayed from reporting on the match ups and happenings in the SEC, and have instead begun to “Preach” to everyone how you feel like people should conduct themselves….I’m sorry to sound insulting, but honestly, who do you think you are?
First off, with the Grantham situation last week and his taunting of the kicker on the other team; yes it was wrong and no coach should ever take it to that level, but you were very extreme in your views of how that situation should have been handled. Once again, you were preaching to the readers how things should be done, and that’s a major turn off.
Now this write up has come out about the Cam Newton situation. Whether he is guilty or not is yet to be scene, but don’t preach about the reporting of the story and how this information should be handled to us. The accountability for these actions will fall completely on the shoulders of Newton, guilty or not. If he is not, then your story has some validity to it and you can then write it, giving us the FACTS of who leaked it and what will be done. But don’t write a story just because you feel like (A) it’s a hot topic and you need to cover it, and (B) you get another chance to be “holier than thou.”
I know the chances of you actually reading this are slim, but I can always hope. Please go back to your old style where you told facts and made people feel good about following SEC football. Either that, or go into the ministry.

SouthGADawg

November 10th, 2010
10:23 am

NCAA should have a rule that if you recieve a scholarship from a school you have to graduate. If you quit you pay it back. We are paying for players education and they quit school. There are a lot of kids who would love to have a free ride and get a diploma.

Jeff

November 10th, 2010
10:24 am

Do you HONESTLY think the SEC commissioner has the spine to do anything?????? Remember, this is the moron who cares less about how SEC Officials do their job and was unwilling to take a stand on how games were being called even when sports networks showed reply after replay of the evidence……. so that tells you about his morals or wanting to do what is right. Lets be clear- the commissioner and SEC are about MONEY plain and simple….as for college football as we remember it- that isnt even a consideration.

jumbeauxtiger

November 10th, 2010
10:25 am

Thanks for that link Cam Watch.

T-Dawg

November 10th, 2010
10:25 am

Please let Newton play. There is no honor in whooping a wounded war eagle.

Paul N Destin

November 10th, 2010
10:25 am

Barnhart – you are a total joke. I’m ashamed to say you’re a UGA alum. How you have turned your meager “talents” into a career is a mystery to me and many others. Bottom line is this – Mike Slive should be worried – VERY worried – about the cover-up his office tried to author in regards to Cameron Newton and Auburn University. My guess is Mike Slive will be sitting in his own “Come to Jesus” meeting in the near future…

This is the truth…Slive is on trial in this one only with Newton folks.. The NCAA/Big 10 (all the same) have a real chance to bitchslap the SEC and they’re going for broke…Hold on folks cause this is going to get good

Cam Watch

November 10th, 2010
10:26 am

@Buzz

That’s funny! This would all be just another bad CFB joke if these stories were only coming from sports blogs.

Major media outlets have good attorneys. They don’t arbitrarily report crap that can’t be substantiated or they put themselves at extreme financial liability.

There are lots of comments being made about “smoke” and “fire”. My problem with this story is not the amount of smoke, but the number of blatant lies that have been told by the Newton family. You don’t need to lie if you have nothing to hide. My children know this. I suspect that Cecil Newton should know this as well.

MURPHY

November 10th, 2010
10:26 am

JDawg,

Totally agree.The NFL must stand with the NCAA and hold players accountable for their actions in college.You are right,Cam can just leave with no penalty and sign for millions. That is if he is found of wrong doing.

Gatorzone

November 10th, 2010
10:26 am

BAMA dude

November 10th, 2010
10:27 am

We are paying for players education and they quit school.

Define “we.” The athletic departments fund the scholarships.

shankit

November 10th, 2010
10:27 am

Who has the most to gain out of this incident?
Former Florida coach, Mullen and MSU?
Nick Saban and Alabama?
Urban Meyer and Florida?
It certainly isn’t Georgia, they are not
in contention for anything.

MURPHY

November 10th, 2010
10:30 am

BAMA dude,

Im sure I have helped fund a few football scholarships with my donations for season tickets over the past 25 plus years.

Alabama Jack

November 10th, 2010
10:30 am

Don’t worry about Saturday dawgs, Y’all be competitive right up until kickoff. Its gonna be so sweet November 26 making sure y’all stay home and watch all the big boy bowl games.

BAMA dude

November 10th, 2010
10:31 am

jumbeauxtiger

November 10th, 2010
10:25 am
Thanks for that link Cam Watch.

So what do you think? Says here that the FBI doesn’t get involved unless there’s some serious, credible evidence.

jumbeauxtiger

November 10th, 2010
10:31 am

I’m surprise that Auburn is favored by only 8 1/2. This means on a neutral field the War Eagles would be favored by about 5 1/2 over the Dawgs.

My take is that Auburn’s defense is of concern to those who set the line in Vegas.

The Dawgs will be in trouble if the Auburn defense that played against LSU shows up Saturday.

MURPHY

November 10th, 2010
10:32 am

shankit,

If it was ruled today that AU must forfiet all games Cam played in ,wouldnt S.Carolina be the biggest winner as of now? Wouldnt that make them SEC East champs even before this week’s UF game.

Cam Watch

November 10th, 2010
10:33 am

@shankit

Cameron Newton has the most to gain from this story — if it proves to have been true. Nobody in the SEC gains anything from exposing the story. It is a blight upon the conference. Those who have come forward to expose this story would probably rather not be involved.

Jay in VA

November 10th, 2010
10:33 am

That Saint Simmons guy must have absolutely nothing going on in his life. I hope he at least gets his mother to occasional wash the underwear that he spends his day in as he surfs the web in her basement.

BAMA dude

November 10th, 2010
10:33 am

That’s what I meant Murphy. A lot of folks seem to think that general taxpayers are footing the bill for these kids. Those who donate money to the athletic program through season tickets and other means are helping, with the TV deals picking up the bulk of the cash.

[...] one story in all of this is the SEC and its tolerance for cheating. Tony Barnhart suggested in a column that Slive should “put his foot down” and prevent all these negative things from being [...]

AltamahaDawg

November 10th, 2010
10:34 am

Personally, I don’t think the cheating allegation are that bad for Newton, 2 year after the fact.(the money is a whole nuther story) I saw a couple of kids busted for basically the same thing back in my day. Face the music, learn from it, try to come back. I don’t think this was anything he tried to hide from AU, and you certainly would not expect them to have made it public. If they were ok with it, there is no reason to question AU signing him.

Now if it’s true and the U of F, basically basically took three shots at, we really really really mean it this time, on academic cheating…. they would be the ones looking bad, and why they would be the LAST folks on earth that would purposely leak this to the public.

Theres is likely something to it, but the reality is probably far less intriguing and sinister than all the specualtion.

But let’s not rpetend now that there is a presumption of innocense here. Maybe there should be, but there is not. THAT happens when the responce is “this is total BS because it never happened”. When the responce is , “this is total BS, because some federal privacy laws says this should have never been discussed, and he is still “eligible” to play. People don’t tend to feel real generous with the benifit of the doubt when the explaination sound more like a technicality.

A logical and straighforward response to brand new story, that appears to damaging to a high profile player and involving 2 universities…..is not exatcly “beating a dead horse”.

Yea we get it, federal laws were broken. I’m sure that will make it all hush. Ironically, all that defense did was create yet another story inside a story.

The shame of it is that the window has passed now to simply meet it head-on, deal with it, and I would bet, garner a LOT of sympathy (Newton is a victim, either this is false or he did have his privacy breached). Folks hate that stuff, but they love good drama, and that what thsi had turned into.

Jeff

November 10th, 2010
10:34 am

Albama Jack….what a moron….this from a program that spent years on probation…..won 3 games total on a couple of occasions,lost to Louisiana Monroe……and the best of all came VERY close to the NCAA Death Penalty. Seems “bama” might have forgot where they came from…..

jumbeauxtiger

November 10th, 2010
10:35 am

Bamadude,

I wouldn’t think that the FBI would get involved if there wasn’t some substance to it. I’m not implying that the Newtons did anything wrong. But it certainly appears that someone did.

MURPHY

November 10th, 2010
10:35 am

BAMA dude,

It’s all about the money in college football. Always has been.

G8R GRAD

November 10th, 2010
10:36 am

“Isn’t it interesting that all this comes out after Bama gets beat by USC and LSU and they are out of the MNC conversation. Isn’t it interesting that all this comes out after Ingram is not even a whisper in the Heisman conversation. Who is always jealous of anything that little brother Aubie does? Not MSU, not UF, not UGA. Slive needs to look out his window toward Tuscaloosa.”

:-D

AltamahaDawg

November 10th, 2010
10:37 am

Most to gain…….is there any doubt that it’s Nick Saban?

Jack

November 10th, 2010
10:37 am

I think we are well beyond worrying about Cam’s privacy rights, and on to worrying about how the SEC has let Newton continue to play. That’s where the worst of the scandal lies.

BAMA dude

November 10th, 2010
10:39 am

Mornin’ G8R Grad. Found yourself a nice little piece of conspiracy theory to start your day, I see. Nothin’ like a good old Bammer conspiracy.

AltamahaDawg

November 10th, 2010
10:39 am

Who is about to see his “best in the history of college football, back to back NC” team not even win thier conference division?

G8R GRAD

November 10th, 2010
10:40 am

“Now if it’s true and the U of F basically took three shots at, we really really really mean it this time, on academic cheating, [then] they would be the ones looking bad, and why they would be the LAST folks on earth that would purposely leak this to the public.”

Thank you Altamaha Dog.
Your logic is sound, sir!

Vu Du Huong

November 10th, 2010
10:41 am

I’ve read and re read your article several times Tony and always end up scratching my head from being bewildered and confused. It appears your bottom line is this: If Cam cheats, thats his business/ no big deal and If anyone tells it then he should be punished. It sure makes good fotter to stir up bloggers but I hope and trust you really didn’t mean it.

BAMA dude

November 10th, 2010
10:41 am

AltamahaDawg

November 10th, 2010
10:39 am
Who is about to see his “best in the history of college football, back to back NC” team not even win thier conference division?

Who called this team the best ever? Last year wasn’t even the best Bama team ever. Personally, I’d have to say the 2001 Miami Hurricanes had the best squad. Hard to argue with six first round picks in the next draft.

npgator

November 10th, 2010
10:41 am

Some of you people are just plain idiots! By the way WHO CARES – Rainey had no charges placed against him when it was said and done. just because the state of Georgia football is soooooooo PATHETIC you try to implicate every other program. Sorry but Florida has nothing to do with this ever growning train wreck called Cam Newton.

G8R GRAD

November 10th, 2010
10:42 am

Bama dude:
It looks like I’m in good company with Altamaha Dog, too!

;-)

Driving Ms Dooley

November 10th, 2010
10:44 am

Cam Watch,

I agree with
“You don’t need to lie if you have nothing to hide”

People don’t understand that if somebody really needs money, as Cecil clearly does, and someone hands them $200k, there is no way the guy takes the money and buries it in his back yard. This guy is still poor. He hasn’t made a single purchase. His church still hasn’t been repaired. There is no sign of the money because there WAS NO MONEY TAKEN.

And then everybody starts to pile on the crap. I’m sure an old girlfriend is going to appear holding a baby up to the camara soon. Why not? At this point Cam Haters will believe anything, and ESPN will report it.

BAMA dude

November 10th, 2010
10:44 am

Sorry but Florida has nothing to do with this ever growning train wreck called Cam Newton.

I wouldn’t go THAT far seeing as how he did play there and left under interesting circumstances, but it doesn’t seem that they would be implicated in any hanky panky.

Mike

November 10th, 2010
10:44 am

How do you know someone leaked a story? Couldn’t it be a kid who Cam tried to cheat off?

Cam Watch

November 10th, 2010
10:45 am

@Jeff

The dark days at Alabama stemmed from a situation not unlike the current drama unfolding at Auburn. A booster, outside of the control of the institution, paid crooked High School football coaches in Memphis to direct a player to Alabama.

It is not fair to the Universities to be held liable for the actions of people outside of the institution, but that is how these issues are resolved by the NCAA — fair or not. Meanwhile, the actual culprits are usually rewarded for their actions after they leave college to play for the NFL.

This makes it all the more important for the Universities to avoid even the implication of impropriety when recruiting players. It appears that Auburn knew enough about Cam’s history to understand the risk of allowing him onto the team. They took a gamble on Cam and it has paid off — so far.

BAMA dude

November 10th, 2010
10:45 am

Driving Ms Dooley

November 10th, 2010
10:44 am
Cam Watch,

I agree with
“You don’t need to lie if you have nothing to hide”

People don’t understand that if somebody really needs money, as Cecil clearly does, and someone hands them $200k, there is no way the guy takes the money and buries it in his back yard.

Again, people never think beyond the surface. Maybe he didn’t get $200k. Maybe he got the $40k that was reportedly needed to fix up the church.

Far East Godfather

November 10th, 2010
10:46 am

Well Mr. College Football, someone read your bizarre article this morning and left a decapitated goat on the street.

miles

November 10th, 2010
10:46 am

Are the Auburn fans still going to shamefully try and defend Cam Newton yet again today? It’s becoming more and more evident with each passing 24 hours that Auburn is guilty of committing a HUGE crime with this thug. Given the Tigers history of cheating, and the arrogant denials by the AD and coach, the NCAA might deal them the death penalty when this is all said and done.

Melodie

November 10th, 2010
10:47 am

I say Roll Dogs, Roll!

Booyah

November 10th, 2010
10:50 am

Wow – could you miss the actual story by a wider margin Tony? Cam Newton and the SEC are getting exposed for what they are why you cry foul. WAHHHHH!!!!

Jack

November 10th, 2010
10:52 am

imo, all this smells like a Bobby Lowder payola scheme and that an Alabama representative leaked the story.

Dudleydoright

November 10th, 2010
10:53 am

Fox Sports needs to reveal their sources to the SEC, if not, the public.

Triff

November 10th, 2010
10:53 am

@ miles,

You are correct. What’s making this worse are all the Auburn officials and people in positions of power vehemently denying that there is anything wrong and continuing to put this kid on the field every Saturday. They are probably assuming if they bench him during the investigation that it would appear to show guilt, but in the long run their defiance might actually be what ultimately destroys their football program.

Cam Watch

November 10th, 2010
10:54 am

@Driving Ms Dooley

You’re wrong. There is documentation of the church repairs being done. The city of Newnan was threatening to condemn the building otherwise. Cecil Newton Sr. claims that he got the money from his older son, Cecil Jr. If that is the case, then it should be easy enough to prove that such a financial transaction took place between his son and the church. Such a donation would have been tax deductible. There would be clear and concise records of such a financial transaction.

Even if shopping Cam’s services did occur, there is no need to tie the resulting funds to the church repairs. There is no need for the shopping to have resulted in any payment, for that matter. The shopping alone is a violation of NCAA rules for amateur eligibility.

Tommy Tuberville

November 10th, 2010
10:54 am

BAWAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!

G8R GRAD

November 10th, 2010
10:54 am

“imo, all this smells like a Bobby Lowder payola scheme and that an Alabama representative leaked the story.”

Now Jack’s piling on!
The scandal’s gaining momentum!

:-D

BAMA dude

November 10th, 2010
10:54 am

Mike

November 10th, 2010
10:44 am
How do you know someone leaked a story? Couldn’t it be a kid who Cam tried to cheat jerk off?

Now THAT would be a news story…

producewiz

November 10th, 2010
10:55 am

what can Slive put his foot down on. No facts, just rumor after rumor and most of it coming from MSU sources. Their track record lot to be desired long before this incident.

G8R GRAD

November 10th, 2010
10:55 am

That’s it!
Brilliant!
Tubbs is behind all this!

:-D

Auburn fan

November 10th, 2010
10:56 am

Well….I sure have enjoyed having a football team. I guess now I’ll have to bite the bullet and start pulling for the Tide inbreds. What a life.

Cam Watch

November 10th, 2010
10:57 am

@producewiz

Too bad Auburn didn’t leave well enough alone and let Cam be MSU’s problem, eh?

BAMA dude

November 10th, 2010
10:57 am

Dem Bammers is jus tryin’ to brang down this fine institution, jus like always, Pawwwl. You no dat boy ain’t done nuthin wrong and neither has Auburn. It’s awl just one big o’l con-speee-ra-see Pawwwl.

Driving Ms Dooley

November 10th, 2010
10:57 am

To What? from your 10:10 posting regarding:

“This is a big deal. If he wanted to be paid to sign with a school…he should absolutely get in trouble”

So you’re saying that Cam wanted to be paid? First of all, Cam is separated from this by three people. Do you have any idea how sleazy Agents are? The only thing sleazier are Runners for Agents. Now, try to think like a sleazy wannabe agent–Kenny Rogers. How am I gonna make money off of this Cam guy? My guess is, if somebody would have paid him the money, THEN he would have approached Cecil and said, “Hey Cecil, I can get you $50k if you send him to Miss St.” Well nobody paid this guy and Cecil may or may not have ever been told of his actions.

So quit acting like Cam was standing on a street corner asking for money. This stuff was reported. The trail ends there. Cam is kid/man who has had some lapses in judgement and thats it. This whole media frenzy sickening.

You don’t have to beleive everything ESPN reports. Especially when they say that Cam “MAY HAVE TAKEN MONEY” Total speculation

lol!!!

November 10th, 2010
10:57 am

Funny stuff Tommy Tuberville, very funny!!

GatorBoy

November 10th, 2010
10:58 am

That AU would rather its season rest on beating UGA rather than UA has to be insulting to Dawg fans and that if AU does so, it renders the Iron Bowl (and UA) irrelevent has to be insulting to Tide fans, . . .

Tiger Dawg

November 10th, 2010
10:58 am

Really? I agree with some of the above. One student athlete messes up and doesn’t pay a fine and he gets pulled out for 2 games. There is a lot of smoke (look what happened to #8) He was never at the agent party and the ’smoke’ cost him and UGA 4 games. This is all a load of crap, and the SEC and other power conferences should break away from the NCAA as you suggested on your show and do it the right way. Pay the players, have a play off and get rid of this mickey mouse stuff!

GaDawgs7

November 10th, 2010
10:59 am

Gatorzone,
LOL I guess whatever works. Its just funny sometimes as to what our priorities are. How’s Cam’s driving record? lol

GatorBoy

November 10th, 2010
10:59 am

Jus’ sayin’

BAMA dude

November 10th, 2010
11:00 am

Driving Ms Dooley, have you seen Joe Schad’s report? He very much implies that Cam and Cecil were fully aware of the pay for play dealings and that the reporters have more info than they are releasing at this point.

Where are the Aubarn bloggers?

November 10th, 2010
11:00 am

It’s interesting that there are a handful of Auburn bloggers here now after we had to listen to many drivel the last few weeks.

Where are you?

Jake

November 10th, 2010
11:00 am

Driving Ms Dooley,

You are aware that there are now reports that Cam had a phone conversation explaining why his dad decided that he go to Auburn, right? Cam himself said the money was too good to pass up. The bottom is about to fall out on this story any day now. Who knows, UGA might get a W by forfeit and won’t even have to bother traveling down there at the speed this is coming to a head.

Cam Watch

November 10th, 2010
11:00 am

@Driving Ms Dooley

Cecil Newton Sr. has admitted to employing the services of Kenny Roger’s “placement program”. I guess that even he knew that you have to tell a little bit of truth… sometimes.

Jake

November 10th, 2010
11:00 am

Anyone seen Trish today??

Cam Newton

November 10th, 2010
11:02 am

I don’t care about any Heisman Trophy and I sure as hell don’t care about the SEC or Auburn University. I’ve gotten exactly what I wanted out of this – the $$$ upfront and the big stage that will allow me to be a high draft pick in the NFL next year. The less time I spend at this cow college, the better. I couldn’t care less if Auburn get’s put on probation for the next 10 years. I got mine’s. Auburn rolled the dice because they didn’t want to be an SEC afterthought for at least one year…now they have to deal with the long-term consequences.

AltamahaDawg

November 10th, 2010
11:03 am

Well, that’s the nature of logic.

And I have always been very jealous of UF’s ability to hide these kinds of things from the public/media misguided view. The fact they could have 2 players get DUI this summer, and nobody would have even known about it, till a Miami newspaper needed a quick fix, is the kind of thing I am hoping McGarity can convince our PC gone overboard University is in everybodies best interest.

The majority of this stuff is “private” if you ask me. It’s at the very least a civil issue, not a football issue. Now if a university wants to decide what puts thier program at harm, or crossses the line of being able to handle internally, great. Obviously there are cases where a playing simply cannot represent your program any further, but it should not be decided in the public forum.

I do think UF mishandled the Rainey deal, though. So it’s not a total lovefest.

BAMA dude

November 10th, 2010
11:03 am

Pay the players, have a play off and get rid of this mickey mouse stuff!

If that happened then there would only be 20 or so colleges that would ever compete for anything. At least one of Texas, Alabama, Michigan, Ohio State, and Florida would be in the champ game every year. It would not be the same game.

Cam Watch

November 10th, 2010
11:03 am

@Jake

Trisha is always with us. You just have to figure out which handle she’s using today.

;-)

meh

November 10th, 2010
11:04 am

Slive needs to put one foot down and break the other off in someone’s ass. need to straighten all this mess out before the whole SEC gets tainted.

Driving Ms Dooley

November 10th, 2010
11:04 am

Bama Dude:
Again, people never think beyond the surface. Maybe he didn’t get $200k. Maybe he got the $40k that was reportedly needed to fix up the church.

Same question to you–So wheres the $40 grand? These people are poor. If you gave them $10, it would be obvious. Did you see this church? An old auto parts store with bullet holes in the windows. People want to believe he took the money so they will.

My bet is on the sleazy agent runner trying to scurry up some money first and then approaching Cecil after he takes a 50% cut. This is all we know. A sleazy agent wannabe tried to start some money flowing and it was reported. my money is on the Agent and the fact that after it was reported, he backed off

Kodi Burns

November 10th, 2010
11:06 am

I’ve had most of the reps at QB this week with the first team.

Look out UGA and Bama.

Cam Watch

November 10th, 2010
11:06 am

@Driving Ms Dooley

Cecil Newton Sr. had a successful career with the Dallas Cowboys. How did he suddenly become so “poor”?

John Galt

November 10th, 2010
11:07 am

This whole mess is sad……sad if he is guilty of this corruption and perhaps even more sad if he’s innocent and he is being slandered unfairly.

Someone needs to get to the bottom of this FAST. If he is guilty, does Auburn risking the forfeiture of a whole season by playing him? If he is innocent, the Heisman, which he appears to have won on the field, may be denied by voters who don’t want to risk another Reggie Bush fiasco.

SAd either way…

GO DAWGS!

Cam Watch

November 10th, 2010
11:08 am

I’m betting that Trisha is driving today.

BG

November 10th, 2010
11:08 am

Cam needs to be suspended right now!! Where there is smoke there is FIRE!!

Wally Butts

November 10th, 2010
11:09 am

Another crappy attempt at writing an article (excuse me “blog”)…You are a disgrace to UGA…How did you become “Mr. College Football”…Go to NYC and stay…

BAMA dude

November 10th, 2010
11:09 am

Oh, and if there is a conspiracy somewhere, maybe it’s ESPN/ABC. Think about it, they televise the BCS. Their champ game contenders:

Oregon: F’n Oregon? Well, guess we’re stuck with ‘em.

Auburn: South Alabama agricultural school? No thanks.

TCU: Dallas-Fort Worth market, some national intrigue (are they good enough?) plus the holy rollers will watch them.

Boise St.: same as TCU but kind of played out. And Idaho? Nah, we already got Oregon.

Who would you want to play Oregon? Easy choice imo.

BG

November 10th, 2010
11:10 am

Cam, Loan a brother a couple thousand. LOL

BAMA dude

November 10th, 2010
11:13 am

My bet is on the sleazy agent runner trying to scurry up some money first and then approaching Cecil after he takes a 50% cut. This is all we know. A sleazy agent wannabe tried to start some money flowing and it was reported.

He’s actually a runner for Ian Greengross, a contract agent who typically represents NFL draft picks. His most famous client to date was Darren McFadden.

Driving Ms Dooley

November 10th, 2010
11:15 am

@ Cam Watch

“Cecil Newton Sr. has admitted to employing the services of Kenny Roger’s “placement program”. I guess that even he knew that you have to tell a little bit of truth… sometimes.”

Cam was in Jr College at the time. Cecil said he had met and talked with Kenny Rogers. If he said he empoyed him, he didn’t have any money to pay him. He’s an unemployed preacher. If this is the case, maybe the runner figured he could get paid by boosters for his services. Just because it was reported that a runner for an agent was shopping the services of Cam, that doesn’t mean money was going to Cam or Cecil.

The ONLY info we have is second hand info and that is: a former MISS STATE PLAYER SAID that and AGENTS RUNNER SAID that HE wanted money to guide Cam to Miss State.

The next thing you know, Cam was taking money from Auburn and cheating at Florida and we shouldn’t vote for him for Heisman.

That’s a huge jump that I’m not willing to take until somebody can present some facts. Until then, Cam doesn’t deserve all the trash that’s being thrown his way.

He’s the best college player to come along in a long time. And nobody is even noticing that now.

GatorBoy

November 10th, 2010
11:18 am

Altamaha:

Regarding Rainey.
On its face, yes, it is embarrassing, but I have to believe that the prosecutor, his coach and the UF administration knew this kid and the facts surrounding his collosal mistake better than I.
On a personal note, I have had a clever, manipulative girlfriend push my buttons and I responded in ways I never thought myself capable.
So I sympathize with Rainey.
Something none of the “news” outlet neglected to print from the police report was the text the woman (who, apparently, makes a hobby of UF football players) recieved before the threatening one(s): “You don’t care about me anymore?”
That, to me, sounds like a broken-hearted kid in a lot of pain and her response was for him to “Go home. I’m going to sleep.”
Not justification, by any stretch, just empathy.

BAMA dude

November 10th, 2010
11:18 am

Driving Ms Dooley, you’re probably right. All of this is just conjecture. Good old Cecil didn’t do anything wrong. Preachers never do.

Flo-Ri-Duh!

November 10th, 2010
11:19 am

If it (storys about Cam) is true so what? Bumblebrain puts his foot in his mouth once more. The man that wanted to suspend an assistant coach for giving a jesture – thinks so what about cheating to stay in school? Get your priorities straight – the so what is that IF he got caught cheating three times he should have been kicked out of school – but he wasn’t.. Am I missing something here? The average student non-athlete would have been kicked out of Florida after getting caught cheating ONCE. Now I am not saying Cam did this. I am not pronouncing him guilty of anything. I can wait for EVIDENCE to come out if there is any. Unfortunately with the NCAA it won’t come out until after the regualr season and the Heisman voting is over. We do know one thing – he was in possession of a stolen computer and he left Florida with an explanation that makes no sense.

Jake

November 10th, 2010
11:20 am

AtlamahaDawg,

You want to envy someone, what about our little sister down the street in Atlanta?? Look at the amount of trash they have put into the NBA and NFL yet you never hear a word while they are on campus. Most of their better athletes couldn’t form a complete, coherent sentence if their life depended on it, yet they are able to hang around one of the best engineering institutes in the country for 3-5 years? Give me a break!!!! That’s a system UGA needs to emulate STAT!!

Dutch

November 10th, 2010
11:22 am

Tony,

Can you not “edit” or “rewrite” a story? This is OLD NEWS. What about the new allegations that Cam and his father admitted in TWO SEPARATE phone calls that Auburn paid him?

Thanks

Dutch

Mike Slive

November 10th, 2010
11:24 am

Mike Slive is part of the problem, not the solution.

Robbie E.

November 10th, 2010
11:25 am

It would take a whole lot more than a scholarship to get me to LIVE in STARKVILLE, so I see daddy Newton’s point.

The view from the Swamp

November 10th, 2010
11:25 am

It looks like another big payday for Tony with Blog hits. Good one Jake!

Fleming Island Dawg

November 10th, 2010
11:26 am

Hey Ginger it had to be somone from Florida that leaked records from Florida. How would Georgia get them?

Gatorzone

November 10th, 2010
11:29 am

Fact is, Newton is still a liar and a thief! Had he not had the Laptop incident, I might be more inclined to believe his innocence. His family is not steadfastly proclaiming their innocence either. By not commenting, or “beating a dead horse,” one has to think there is something to this.

If you were falsely accused, what would you do? Lawyer up, or steadfastly proclaim your innocence? Common sense says he would vigorously deny the allegations.

What?

November 10th, 2010
11:30 am

Cam Watch = Bobby Lowder. Probably guilty of fixing up Mr. Newton’s Church to get Cam to come to Auburn–now is blogging about how unfair it is for the Schools to be penalized when a booster goes against NCAA rules.

These rules violations will be a problem until there is a Minor League NFL system…where kids that don’t want or need to go to college can go and play for 2 years before entering the NFL Draft. Many of these kids are enrolled at the school but not really students. How many are forced to juco for a year to finish their remedial requirements!? I’ll bet entire college curriculum and graduation requirements are defined by how to keep dumb football players eligible for at least 2 years.

Wouldn’t watching college football be just as much fun without all of this garbage? With 80 kids that want to go to that University and only that University? With coaches that are looking out for the best interests of the players rather than their own $3 or $5 million paychecks…or their next ‘Built Ford Tough Commercial’?

I know I would still watch the dawgs play!

How2fish

November 10th, 2010
11:35 am

Unreal 362 comments on a story that has NO source and no corroborated facts to it. At this rate no one in the SEC will even be able to watch the game Saturday…too tried from typing about all this B.S.

Driving Ms Dooley

November 10th, 2010
11:36 am

@ Bama Dude: Good old Cecil didn’t do anything wrong. Preachers never do.

I’m the biggest preacher skeptic in the world believe me. But usually when preachers are crooked or morally thin, they live better than the Newtons are. Seriously, look into the Newtons lifestyle and you will see, the guy’s not living the easy life. He’s closer to the poverty line than the easy life. And again, if you throw cash at situation like that, usually the purchases will stand out. That’s clearly not the case hear.

C’mon, do you find it hard to believe that Kenny Rogers was trying to grease his own pockets? The money wasn’t paid and it was reported.

Show me something concrete like in the Reggie Bush situation. It was blatantly obvious that his family suddenly had large influxes of cash. Clearly not the case here.

And who cares about what MIGHT have happened at Florida? Not me. It doesn’t affect this season at all.

TrishaDishaWarEagle

November 10th, 2010
11:37 am

WAR DAMN EAGLE !!!!

And War Cam Eagle!!! until ANYONE shows ONE IOTA of evidence

TrishaDishaWarEagle

November 10th, 2010
11:38 am

And for all of those in law school at UGA, Innuendo is NOT evidence.

Vance

November 10th, 2010
11:40 am

To win the Heisman the nominated player must be excellent on the field and have personal integrity. It is the integrity issue that is in question. This should be clearly resolved and Cam needs to come clean about all of his issues at UF, as well as the MSU questions. Otherwise, he is not worthy of the award. If you have nothing to hide, it is easy to come clean. Too many players in the NCAA and NFL are not being held accountable for their actions. Winning at all costs trumps character. This is terrible younger players as they see no consequence to bad behavior.

Riley

November 10th, 2010
11:41 am

TB –

Ok, it is pretty much a lock that the inevitable conclusion is that Auburn cheated, big time. So my question for you TB is this; once all the I’s are dotted and T’s are crossed, do you think Auburn gets the death penalty? As a diehard SEC fan I would hate seeing this, but their arrogance during this whole ordeal has been astounding.

TheLawyerDude

November 10th, 2010
11:41 am

Barnhardt, you’ve been watching too much TV. The Buckley Amendment, as the Family Education Rights and Privacy Act (20 USC 1232g) is known, does not have any criminal sanctions as it is not a criminal statute. Anyone violating the act–and individuals do not violate it educational institutions do–will not go into a Federal courthouse. If a complaint is filed that an educational institution violated a student’s right an administrative sanction is levied. In other words, a bureaucrat decides what to do to the educational institution. Usually, the institution gets a reprimand. A fine is possible as is the withholding of future funding. That rarely ever happens and only after a pattern of conduct is clearly demonstrated by the institution.

The University of Florida has over 50,000 students. The federal government is not going to take anyone to the woodshed because the records of one student were improperly released.

Do you even research this stuff before you write about it? Clearly, I’d say the answer is “No.”

PS Your piece is full of typos.

How2fish

November 10th, 2010
11:42 am

TrishaDishaWarEagle I agree with you about no evidence and the kid getting railroaded but lay off UGA we have not one damn thing to do with your problem child on the Plains. I hope Cam is cleared and plays this Saturday and I hope we beat the brakes off the War Chickens..but for the love of God either prove something or lay off the young man..

O.J. Simpson

November 10th, 2010
11:44 am

Cam is innocent until proven guilty!!!!

SEC Sports Fan

November 10th, 2010
11:47 am

Slive has always been an Auburn fan and I am not surprised that he tried to bury this information on Cam Newton. Auburn has never been held accountable for its program or its player’s indiscretions.

It is a football team with a school attached for spoiled children.

Slive should be fired for trying to bury the story and his head of officials should be fired for the slanted playcalling that SEC officials show towards Auburn.

Fan

November 10th, 2010
11:47 am

That’s right Tony–everyone should cover up any cheating by the SEC! Exactly what I would expect a SEC homer to say!!

TrishaDishaWarEagle

November 10th, 2010
11:48 am

so SEC fan, which of the 5-5 SEC east schools are you a fan of..or is it the 7-2 team a little west of here..

BAMA dude

November 10th, 2010
11:48 am

I’m sure the FBI is gonna turn their evidence over to the media any day now. :roll:

We’ll just have to wait and see, but there’s some bad stuff going on here.

Not So Fast

November 10th, 2010
11:49 am

Hey Slive:

In keeping with Barnyard’s Come to Jesus theme.

It is written: “As ye sow, so shall ye reap.”

Slive and the SEC as well as many other in the past regarding another schools program sowed a hard line and demanded “the death penalty”.

Well it is also written: “For they sow the wind, and they reap the whirlwind”.

You got what you asked for, NOW REAP IT!!

Driving Ms Dooley

November 10th, 2010
11:54 am

You Go Trish!

And War Cam Eagle!!! until ANYONE shows ONE IOTA of evidence”

Finally, the voice of rage and reason. And it took a girl to step up and say it!

SEC Sports Fan

November 10th, 2010
11:55 am

Actually the SEC and Big 12 officials should be investigated by the NCAA for orchastrating the BCS championship game last year. Notice how Alabama and Texas and Florida (until the SEC championship game) stayed undefeated towards the end of the year based on VERY questionable ref calls to keep each team undefeated so the SEC and Big 12 would be a lock.

The refs shafted MSU in its game with UF. The refs shafted UT in its game with Bama by not calling the excessive celebration call when the Alabam player took off his helment and celebrated before the clock expired. And Texas gets 1 secon put back on the clock to kick a winning field goal in its last game when it clearly should not have.

That BCS game was stolen and officials from both conferences should be removed by the NCAA.

BAMA dude

November 10th, 2010
11:57 am

The refs shafted MSU in its game with UF. The refs shafted UT in its game with Bama by not calling the excessive celebration call when the Alabam player took off his helment and celebrated before the clock expired.

Removing helmet is a dead ball foul that occurred post possession. Even if they called it all Bama had to do was take a knee. But don’t let me stand in the way of a good Bammer conspiracy.

herp

November 10th, 2010
11:58 am

Auburn fans are hilarious!!! If there was a video of Cam beating a bag of kittens with a bat they would still argue his innocence. It’s for that reason that I am most certainly looking forward to this officially hitting the fan.

BAMA dude

November 10th, 2010
11:58 am

oops, I meant “removing helment.” Carries the same penalty though. 8)

patrick

November 10th, 2010
11:58 am

AUsome
November 10th, 2010
11:08 am

First, no disrespect to GA.
They are a quality SEC program and always dangerous, no matter the record.
Can they hang with Auburn? … not this year.
============================
and this is what you said in 2009, 2008, 2007, 2006, 2004, 2003, 2001

karnes

November 10th, 2010
11:59 am

Well, the bright side is that the basketball and baseball programs will get a lot more funding once the football team is shut down.

lail

November 10th, 2010
12:00 pm

Every game Cam plays is another 5 years of no football for the Tigers. So by all means Auburn, keep playing the crook!!!

BAMA dude

November 10th, 2010
12:01 pm

If there was a video of Cam beating a bag of kittens with a bat they would still argue his innocence.

No, herp, they would say that no one saw Cam beat the kittens. The poor dead, bloody kittens that had been hanging out with Cam wouldn’t be evidence enough. In fact, they would accuse other SEC schools, especially Bama, of stealing the healthy kittens and replacing them with the dead bloody kittens beaten at the other school.

Coach

November 10th, 2010
12:01 pm

Yea Tony, let’s blame the Miss. State or UF sources for this whole problem. It’s not the SEC’s fault, for knowing about these allegations for almost a year but sitting on them. It’s not Auburn’s fault, for knowing exactly what they were getting in Newton or for allegedly paying him money to play for them when they know the severity of NCAA rules. It’s not Newton’s fault, for thinking he’s above the law and refusing to obey basic civil, traffic, and academic rules. It’s not his Dad’s fault, for having his hand all the way down the cookie jar, I guess a free education, books, room, and board aren’t enough. And of course it’s not the media’s fault. Let’s blame the “sources”. Great perspective Tony, I don’t know how much longer you’ll be getting my page click.

patrick

November 10th, 2010
12:02 pm

TrishaDishaWarEagle
November 10th, 2010
11:37 am

WAR DAMN EAGLE !!!!

And War Cam Eagle!!! until ANYONE shows ONE IOTA of evidence
==============================
ummm there are at least 2 taped phone calls and MSU sent a letter to the NCAA revealiong that Cam and his father called asking for money. One taped call has Cam saying “I am sorry I could come to MSU but the money was to good at Auburn”.
.
I think that is considered more than an iota

SCJack

November 10th, 2010
12:05 pm

Tony: As Ronald Reagan once said to Jimmy Carter in a presidential debate, “there you go again.” You are a pretty good journalist but recently you’ve begun to take very judgmental stances on issues that you apparently feel deeply moved by (Grantham, Newton) and have seemingly moved away from your usual, excellent way of describing a situation without becoming a ‘homer for the cause’. Don’t know why…… Nonetheless, if folks (have not) and will not follow the Christian God’s admonition concerning rumors and innuendoes (King James Bible: But the tongue can no man tame; [it is] an unruly evil, full of deadly poison.) who is Mr. Slive, you, or me for that matter? I have to agree with most of the other commenter’s when they allude to the old adage, “Where there’s smoke, there’s usually fire.”

Jdawg

November 10th, 2010
12:09 pm

ATL somebody should tell Cam, if does’nt come from Wal-Mart then dont buy it.Recieving stolen property is also a crime.

BAMA dude

November 10th, 2010
12:10 pm

ummm there are at least 2 taped phone calls and MSU sent a letter to the NCAA revealiong that Cam and his father called asking for money.

I’m not buying that one at this point. The only place I saw that posted was on a TCU blog by a guy calling himself Goo.

Driving Ms Dooley

November 10th, 2010
12:13 pm

@ Bama Dude and Cam Watch
My apologies. I just took a break a saw the first few minutes of Sports Center. Ok, I’m thinking he’s guilty of asking for the money and probably taking it but I doubt they will ever be able to prove it.

Man he looked guilty in his non denial. And to say those things on the phone were pretty stupid. Hmm. I still say that nothing will come of it because saying something like that on the phone isn’t the same as acting on it and so far, that’s all they’ve got.

And was the phone conversation actually taped?

Driving Ms Dooley

November 10th, 2010
12:17 pm

@Bama dude:
ummm there are at least 2 taped phone calls and MSU sent a letter to the NCAA revealiong that Cam and his father called asking for money

Sports Center just reported the calls but I don’t think they said they were taped. Just one mans word against another. But the stink is starting to get pretty bad.

Still don’t think they’ll nail em. Now it’ an opinion thing with the Heisman. I’d say give to Charles Woodson again.

How2fish

November 10th, 2010
12:17 pm

Anyone have a link to the “taped” call where Cam is talking money? I can’t find it… or is it yet again” I saw or heard about it on the internet” but haven’t seen or heard it myself ???

BAMA dude

November 10th, 2010
12:19 pm

They’ve been reporting on the calls all along, the “taped” part is what hasn’t been reported. But yeah, there’s something there. The FBI doesn’t show up to investigate rumors.

Driving Ms Dooley

November 10th, 2010
12:20 pm

AND Bama Dude,

I’d have to see the dead kittens video. But I’d rather not.

Is he the best player in college football??????

Is he elgible to play this year???

Yes and Yes. Still got my vote. (unless the kitten thing is true)

Stanley

November 10th, 2010
12:22 pm

I understand why Auburn fans are defending this criminal and his crooked family, because they have no souls, but why are some UGA fans doing the same? If someone wanted to make up a hit-piece story of this guy they could have been a lot more creative than this. There are too many questions and the connecting of the dots has already begun. Why do you refuse to acknowledge reality?

Stanley

November 10th, 2010
12:23 pm

Driving Ms Dooley,

Let’s give Cam a remedial math test for a high school sophomore with all the cameras on him and see just how “eligible” he is.

xacers

November 10th, 2010
12:25 pm

Hopefully Auburn University will donate their field to Auburn High School once their program is shutdown.

Driving Ms Dooley

November 10th, 2010
12:25 pm

Stanley you’re kidding right. Let’s give the same test to all SEC football teams except for Vandy. My guess is that 25% fail.

Plus, Cam did all the heavy lifting academically at Blinn–a school that is well know for…well not really anything except Cam.

patrick

November 10th, 2010
12:26 pm

If he cheated at a PUBLIC school how is that a privacy issue? State funds (from our tax dollars) pay for the school. Its EVERYONES right to know if they are getting educated or are cheating

BAMA dude

November 10th, 2010
12:26 pm

Twitter just blew up with reports that Cam will be suspended within four hours. Apparently Ian Fitzsimmons of ESPN Radio Dallas got the scoop somehow.

elliot

November 10th, 2010
12:29 pm

If you are serious Bama Dude that is massive news. Kodi Burns isn’t a horrible second option, but he’s no Cam. Wow.

elliot

November 10th, 2010
12:31 pm

Auburn is clearly imploding. Sad, but they made the bed so they got to sleep in it.

Driving Ms Dooley

November 10th, 2010
12:31 pm

Suspended for how long? By the NCAA or Auburn?

he said what?

November 10th, 2010
12:32 pm

Tony wins the office pool for most comments this week. Half price appitizers at Applebee’s yay!!!!!!!!!

Driving Ms Dooley

November 10th, 2010
12:33 pm

This Sucks. The whole SEC is being brought down by this. I guess I’m pulling for The Hat now.

elliot

November 10th, 2010
12:34 pm

Auburn history of cheating has caught up with them again

BAMA dude

November 10th, 2010
12:35 pm

Don’t know. It’s being reported on Warblogle, tigerdroppings, and others. Don’t know if it’s true but it’s everywhere.

Driving Ms Dooley

November 10th, 2010
12:35 pm

If you think about it LSU fans are the only winners here. They now have a shot at the SEC and NCG unless the rest of the world is just disgusted with the SEC and puts BoysEasy ahead of a one loss SEC champ.

blazer

November 10th, 2010
12:35 pm

just hope Newton has about 3oo total yards himself this weekend!!!!!!!!!!!!

Harold Machen

November 10th, 2010
12:35 pm

You guys who buy irk by the barrell are full of crap.

BAMA dude

November 10th, 2010
12:36 pm

Driving Ms Dooley

November 10th, 2010
12:31 pm
Suspended for how long? By the NCAA or Auburn?

He says the NCAA. I’m assuming it would be indefinite due to eligibility.

LSUFan

November 10th, 2010
12:36 pm

Great article Tony, but what about the allegations of money being paid to Cam Newton and his father from Auburn after MSU wouldn’t give Cam “more than an athletic scholarship”. What about the fact that they didn’t deny that the conversations took place? Screw the academic allegations! Yes, cheating is bad; but it happens everyday and unfortunately is not breaking the law.

LSUFan

November 10th, 2010
12:37 pm

YES! I’m sorry if that sounds selfish.

crackatoe

November 10th, 2010
12:38 pm

Enter your comments here

Big Dawg

November 10th, 2010
12:38 pm

@Driving Ms Dooley

I don’t really want to hear any more about how poor the Newton family is. Cam’s Dad had a career in the NFL. Cam’s older brother is currently employed by the Jacksonville Jaguars. It is my understanding that the church in Newnan is only one of six churches in the Atlanta area from which Cecil Newton Sr. receives income.

This whole story of Cam being some poor preacher’s kid who doesn’t know what’s going on with his recruitment just reeks of BS. Cam Newton has never sought an education at any school that he has attended. He is shopping for a high standing in this year’s NFL draft. He will never receive a diploma from any of the schools that he has used in his quest for the almighty dollar. In the end, Cam (and his Dad) will win the prize $$$ and any University that got dragged into his scam will eventually pay a price for playing along with these scoundrels.

Auburn knew what they were getting into when they recruited Cam. I have little sympathy for them, considering the circumstances.

Aubbie98

November 10th, 2010
12:39 pm

Great BLOG!!! you are right on target!!! Someone true or not should be in allot of trouble!!! Now that the FBI is involved somebody is going to the woodshed!!! I think the SEC needs to make it clear no coach or player should ever talk to the media unless it is about a up coming game.

Aubbie98

November 10th, 2010
12:41 pm

Tony- one more thing how come everyong is not talking about Oklahoma saying none of this went on when they recruited Cam???

crackatoe

November 10th, 2010
12:43 pm

WHAT THE WHAT! CHEATIN AT AWBURN. CAN’T BE!

Bewildered

November 10th, 2010
12:44 pm

Has anyone ever stopped to think maybe the SEC and it’s members are not involved in all these heretics? This information was passed along so long ago that it is quite possible that there are NCAA and middle man leaks. It hasn’t been uncommon that we have recv’d information from a NCAA mole/leak. We got information about USC, Bama(all times), FSU, Michigan, Miss State, and Tennessee all before it was released by the NCAA. Has anyone thought that maybe there are people out there falsely representing schools and giving out false information? Where is the call for Press ethics? None of this benefits Auburn, none of this benefits Miss State, and certainly none of this helps Florida. All 3 schools are in precarious situations. I don’t think coaches would try to destroy that at this point.

Realistic Bama Fan

November 10th, 2010
12:44 pm

Give me a break Tony. Stop defending Cam. I know we should all be careful before passing judgment, but there is just too much going on here for Cam to be innocent. As stated above the new report indicates that Cam’s family tried to get money out of Miss state, and Auburn boosters ponied up money to get him to go to Auburn.

The fact that he cheated and purchased a hot laptop and tossed it is out the window is not relevant, but for the fact that we are now be asked to believe this kid’s denials. He is a cheater and thief, but not a liar? Whatever. It’s too bad this might ruin Auburn’s season but that’s how it goes when you pay bad characters to play at your school. Just ask Jim Harrick.

My Laptop is Missing

November 10th, 2010
12:45 pm

Cam for Heisman! I would send in my vote now, but someone stole my laptop.

Tech75

November 10th, 2010
12:45 pm

Look, the SEC is only slightly better than the old SW Conference r.e. “benefits” for athletes.

And the NCAA basically shut the SW conference down.

The SEC is Big Business. They want to keep all this under wraps and manage their image; unfortunately they haven’t been able to in this case.

At some point, the “whistleblower” will have to come forward with the goods… then it’ll time for the **** to hit the fan.

And if that happens, the mighty SEC will have been taken down a few more notches.

BAMA dude

November 10th, 2010
12:45 pm

Now Finebaum is claiming that he talked to Fitzsimmons and that the quote was “something big COULD happen in 3 to 4 hours.” Fitzsimmons says a blogger took that and ran with it. I am reading that MGM and Las Vegas Hilton have pulled the betting lines for Saturday’s game with Auburn.

BAMA dude

November 10th, 2010
12:46 pm

BTW, Fitzsimmons was a radio host in Birmingham before moving to a Dallas station in 2009.

BAMA dude

November 10th, 2010
12:47 pm

re: the pulled lines, I meant Saturday’s AU-UGA game of course…

Big Dawg

November 10th, 2010
12:49 pm

So then, it’s not true that “What happens in Vegas stays in Vegas”?

;-)

elliot

November 10th, 2010
12:49 pm

Tech75,

Keep dreaming and holding your breath, winner. I know being in a conference 10 weeks into a season with only ONE ranked team hurts, but don’t let it effect your sanity.

MURPHY

November 10th, 2010
12:49 pm

BAMA dude,

No betting lines?

BAMA dude

November 10th, 2010
12:51 pm

Nope, Murphy, they’re being pulled like crazy. Bodog just pulled theirs too. Apparently Chizik just told somebody that Auburn will play Saturday. Twitter is something else.

BAMA dude

November 10th, 2010
12:51 pm

I meant that Cam will play. DERP.

Scott

November 10th, 2010
12:53 pm

@ Tech75,

So how far did Tech’s academic scandal several years back “lower” the ACC? Oh nevermind, they were already bottom-of-the-barrel anyway.

MURPHY

November 10th, 2010
12:55 pm

BAMA dude,

What does Cam playing or not have to do with betting lines being on or off? Dont know much bought that stuff.

Mobile Dawg

November 10th, 2010
12:55 pm

I was hoping all this would turn out to be “garbage”. Hope for AU’s sake they were clean and the Newton’s lied to them. Otherwise Tony writes another column about who has a “special place” reserved in hell. Pretty damning evidence continuing to come out.

Bob Boteler

November 10th, 2010
12:57 pm

And the news media gets a free ride??

Scott

November 10th, 2010
12:58 pm

At this point, if Auburn continues to trot Newton out on Saturdays and even half the allegations are true, they can kiss their football program goodbye. They are playing with fire here.

Tech75

November 10th, 2010
12:58 pm

Elliot – If you didn’t define yourself by your affiliation with a football team then all this is common sense and quite obvious.

Anytime you start generating over $40 million in football-related revenue and paying coaches multi-million-dollar salaries you are going to encounter all the same issues that Fortune 500 companies run into regularly….

1. Doing what is necessary to “close the deal”. [gotta have the best players, so you have to do what you have to do to get them - otherwise they'll go elsewhere]
2. Paying what you have to to get the best management. [coaches being paid millions to win have millions of reasons to do what is necessary to keep their jobs]
3. Defending yourself against negative press created by the competition, whether true or purely speculative.

Just the truth; it was bound to happen, and it will happen again. Get used to it.
4. Creating and managing spin related to your company and your products.

BAMA dude

November 10th, 2010
12:59 pm

MURPHY

November 10th, 2010
12:55 pm
BAMA dude,

What does Cam playing or not have to do with betting lines being on or off? Dont know much bought that stuff.

Obviously one might bet differently based on whether Cam was playing. Betting lines being pulled means somebody somewhere is worried about Cam’s status. Sometimes they pull games due to uncertain injury status involving superstar players too. Must have been some money getting dumped on UGA based on these tweets.

elliot

November 10th, 2010
1:00 pm

Tech75,

Well you would be the authority on such matters given your own academic scandals and also housing FSU, Miami and UNC in your conference.

Paul in RDU

November 10th, 2010
1:01 pm

BAMA dude – “Something big COULD happen in 3-4 hours”. Sounds like the radio version of “disaster strikes – tune in to WXYZ News, pictures at 11″

Seriously – I find the life of this story amazing. In the time of the Internet and the 24/7 news networks, not to mention the World-Wide Leader, I expect bloggers jumping to conclusions but some “journalists” seem to have forgotten the basics.

Big Dawg

November 10th, 2010
1:01 pm

MURPHY

November 10th, 2010
12:55 pm

BAMA dude,

What does Cam playing or not have to do with betting lines being on or off?

MURPHY,

Do you seriously not see the difference between a bet placed on Auburn with Cam Newton vs. Auburn without Cam Newton? You have gotta be kidding me!

Mobile Dawg

November 10th, 2010
1:02 pm

If Newton’s out of the game it becomes a “pickem”. I go so far as to give UGA the nod, was looking forward to seeing him play.

LSUFan

November 10th, 2010
1:03 pm

Only one problem there bewildered…Cam and his father admitted it in a phone interview! Game over.

GeneralNeyland96

November 10th, 2010
1:03 pm

Hopefully the truth will be heard in all this #$%@ eventually, but the one thing that tears me up the most is there is no way IN HELL this would even be a back-page news article if Auburn was having a Vandy (or sadly, UT) type of year this year.

Personally, I want to watch good football…I want it to be played by ethically recruited, academically qualified kids. All of of this off the field drama is better suited for Jersey Shore or Real Housewives…NOT SPORTSCENTER!!

Note to the Vols out there – Let’s hope our guys can keep their heads down and stay focused and try to get better while everyone else is waiting for the SEC to go up in flames!

BAMA dude

November 10th, 2010
1:05 pm

but the one thing that tears me up the most is there is no way IN HELL this would even be a back-page news article if Auburn was having a Vandy (or sadly, UT) type of year this year.

Or if it was someone other than the Heisman favorite.

Big Dawg

November 10th, 2010
1:05 pm

Georgia and Alabama both get burned by the loss of an opportunity to play against the War Cam Eagle. Auburn might as well go ahead and let him play. Why not? He’s already played ten games. What difference will two more games make at this point?

Tom C

November 10th, 2010
1:06 pm

I watched Cam Newton’s press conference last weekend. I watched his mannerisms and body language while addressing questions about his recruitment. He portrayed the text book characteristics of someone who was lying. Days later all this stuff is coming out of the woodwork. I have read stories that Cecil Newton’s “church” was going to be demolished because of lack of funding to fix it…and now all of a sudden the church is being fixed The Newton family has very questionable character to say the least. Does anyone who isn’t an Auburn/SEC apologist believe anything they say?

Tom

Mobile Dawg

November 10th, 2010
1:07 pm

Do you know the Newtons Tom?

BAMA dude

November 10th, 2010
1:07 pm

Paul in RDU

November 10th, 2010
1:01 pm
BAMA dude – “Something big COULD happen in 3-4 hours”. Sounds like the radio version of “disaster strikes – tune in to WXYZ News, pictures at 11″

Yeah, Twitter has changed the game. Even credible journalists tweet garbage just in case it’s true in effort to be “first.” Strange times indeed.

Bend Over Rover

November 10th, 2010
1:08 pm

Lets get Real: all the stud players get more than “just a schlaorship” in college ball, only most of them dont get caught. You think Tebow never got anything in Gatorland??? Right!!! I promise he got more than a pat on the head from Urban Crier!!!!!

Driving Ms Dooley

November 10th, 2010
1:09 pm

@ Murphy;

What does Cam playing or not have to do with betting lines being on or off? Dont know much bought that stuff.

Hey Murph, gimme a call and I’ll place some bets for you. then if you want, you can come over for some poker later. I’ll teach you. Stop by the ATM first.

Big Dawg

November 10th, 2010
1:10 pm

Oh well. The NCAA would have dragged this out for 3 to 5 years.

The FBI is not quite so slow moving. Fan… Meet $hit.

MURPHY

November 10th, 2010
1:11 pm

Big Dawg,

Yes I do know the difference in betting on AU wiith Cam or without Cam.What I didnt know is why they pulled the game so no bets could be made.

Tech75

November 10th, 2010
1:12 pm

Again, it’s entirely predictable. Big money, big pressure to win, leads to cheating.

Basic greed and human nature to sell to the highest bidder.

Why is this so surprising?

Big Dawg

November 10th, 2010
1:12 pm

Latest rumor is that Tim Tebow is the real “Deep Throat”!!!

Just kiddin’

;-)

elliot

November 10th, 2010
1:13 pm

Mobile,

Tom never claimed to know them, he simply stated how HE thought Newton’s body language looked.

MURPHY

November 10th, 2010
1:13 pm

Driving Ms Dooley,

I have never placed a bet in that manner.Always bet with friends but never on-line.Vegas,such as that. Believe it of not I have never played Poker-Wouldnt have a clue how to play. I promise Ive not been sheltered just never have done either.

Brick

November 10th, 2010
1:14 pm

elliot

November 10th, 2010
1:14 pm

Tech75,

No one is saying it’s surprising. We all laughing at you since you seem to refuse to admit to Tech’s and the ACC’s own shortcomings.

Big Dawg

November 10th, 2010
1:14 pm

@MURPHY

The bookies have to pay out on those bets. That’s why they continuously adjust the lines to match the bets. The house never loses a gamble.

LSUFan

November 10th, 2010
1:15 pm

Bama dude, that’s the point. If Newton went to MSU or stayed at FLA (and didn’t get kicked out of school), those teams would be better and AUB would be 6-4 (or so). I’m not taking anything away from Newton…he’s one hell of an athlete. I wish he played for LSU and had better character. The fact that it happened hasn’t changed. The reasons for it coming out don’t really matter. It’s out.

TrishaDishaWarEagle

November 10th, 2010
1:16 pm

Auburn coach Gene Chizik beat the questioners to the punch during his portion of the SEC teleconference Wednesday.

“Cameron Newton will be playing Saturday against the Georgia Bulldogs,” Chizik said before he entertained questions.

NO credible allegations against AU, OU Stoops says he was never approached, AU says they were never approached, MSU said they were only approached by the sleezy Rogers and STILL recruited Cam because they felt he was clean …so far NO EVIDENCE against Cam.

Produce “the tapes” and I will say i was wrong and smooch your A**. Until then, NOTHING but innuendo from sleezy in betweens

MURPHY

November 10th, 2010
1:17 pm

Big Dawg,

I get that.BAMA dude stated the bets were off not being adjusted.My questions was: Why did they pull the game for betting altogether?

Mobile Dawg

November 10th, 2010
1:17 pm

sorry elliot, I thought your quote was, I mean “Tom’s” quote was “The Newton family has very questionable character to say the least.” I guess my question to Tom was legitimate. Want to try again?

Paul in RDU

November 10th, 2010
1:17 pm

Big Dawg – When Vegas “takes a line off the board”, they pay out nothing – they just return all wagers.

ClinchPanther

November 10th, 2010
1:18 pm

what is to be gained is that if florida beats south carolina and goes to the sec championship game, they would rather it be against auburn without cam newton. there you go.

Mobile Dawg

November 10th, 2010
1:19 pm

Trisha, I hope you’re right.

Warhorse

November 10th, 2010
1:19 pm

AJC writers regularly have tossed around a statistic of UF arrests. Newton is included in that statistic. Now, it appears he is not as innocent as projected, so how has Cam become the poster child for victimhood? He is the one who said he left UF because Tebow stayed; now, it appears that is false and the media wanted to dig for the real reason.

Three cheating incidents has been put forward as the real reason. If Cam is a liar, how is he a victim? And how is UF involved? Most UF fans want Cam to succeed because he was a good guy and still says he is all Gator.

LSUFan

November 10th, 2010
1:20 pm

Trish,
What would you call recorded phone interviews where Cam and his father admitted to taking money? Of course I don’t have these tapes, but someone does. He may play Saturday against UGA and if he does, he will probably put up huge numbers. That won’t matter when their season is wiped off the books.

Big Dawg

November 10th, 2010
1:20 pm

@TrishaDishaWarEagle

What makes you think that anyone on this blog wants you to kiss them anywhere???

@MURPHY

They want to know if Cam is playing Saturday before taking any more bets. Is that really so hard to understand?

elliot

November 10th, 2010
1:20 pm

Do any of the reporters “know the Newtons?” How asinining is that? Don’t be a child.

James

November 10th, 2010
1:22 pm

Auburn is all in on Newton. If they lose this gamble they lose the house!!!

Tom C

November 10th, 2010
1:23 pm

Mobile Dawg:

No I don’t know the Newton family. I didn’t call them “liars”. All I said was that they had “questionable character to say the least”. I think given all the accusations and their refusals to discuss certain aspects most people would agree that their actions are questionable. And we determine one’s character by words and deeds. So I stand by my statements even without the benefit of actually knowing the family (although I should probably limit it to Cecil Sr and Cam).

Tom

Big Dawg

November 10th, 2010
1:23 pm

@Paul in RDU

I don’t doubt that. I’m not a gambler myself, but I do understand why all bets would be off in this situation.

MURPHY

November 10th, 2010
1:25 pm

Big Dawg,

Thanks for the info.Sorry just trying to understand-Didnt mean to insult your educated mind on this.

Mobile Dawg

November 10th, 2010
1:26 pm

Me be a child? I asked you a question elliot, or Tom. You said the Newton family had questionable character? I say that’s pretty “asinine” to say if you don’t know them sport.

Alison

November 10th, 2010
1:27 pm

Tony, yesterday Paul Finebaum mentioned that athletes waive their privacy on school records. You routinely see GPAs and majors on TV….doesn’t he have a point here?

Tech75

November 10th, 2010
1:28 pm

Elliot – Tech has had it’s own issues; so has Free Shoes U and No Care – olina.

There are only about a dozen schools right now that can get the players they want without extra incentives – for instance Alabama, Florida, Texas, USC… everybody else has to do something extraordinary to beat out these programs for a top recruit.

It always seems that the “next tier” programs are always the ones who get caught “reaching”. I am not surprised by what happened at NC this year, have never been surprised by the antics at FSU, and am quite surprised that The U hasn’t been thrown under the bus more often.

Driving Ms Dooley

November 10th, 2010
1:28 pm

You go Trish–Again! Show me the money or show me the paper trail or show me the taped conversations.

Are the Newtons smart enough to cover something this obvious?? Then there has to evidence somewhere.

TrishaDishaWarEagle

November 10th, 2010
1:29 pm

Big Dawg

November 10th, 2010
1:29 pm

@MURPHY

I’m not in any way offended. I just wondered if you were being serious or merely sarcastic. Hope I didn’t come across the wrong way. As I admitted to Paul, I’m no gambler either.

Mobile Dawg

November 10th, 2010
1:30 pm

Thanks Tom C. Reason I asked if you knew them was I got a feeling you might be from Newnan and truly have first hand knowledge of them, and the church issue. At this point I would tend to agree with you, their “character” is being questioned.

Don’t quite know why this “elliot” character thought it was appropriate to answer for you. Have a good day Tom.

The Ole Ball Coach

November 10th, 2010
1:31 pm

Never mention someone cheated three times on collge academics, had 13 various charges, including three felonies including obstruction, but don’t give the choke sign……
The Money thing still needs proof. but the patterns above sum it up for me in which direction this is going…… If it smells like and looks like do it just may be do………

Whoa Nellie!

November 10th, 2010
1:31 pm

“the money was too much.”

Dawg Tired

November 10th, 2010
1:33 pm

Meyer says he did not leak anything about any of this. I guess that settles the whole thing. Has he said he is quitting coaching yet?

Tech75

November 10th, 2010
1:34 pm

If the FBI is involved, then people will get polygraphed…. then it will get REALLY INTERESTING.

TrishaDishaWarEagle

November 10th, 2010
1:34 pm

I hope the entire AU team takes any frustrations from this week out heavily on the pink elephants in Tuscalossa in 2 weeks. Make it a memorable beat down.

MURPHY

November 10th, 2010
1:36 pm

TDWEagle,

I just dont see this as coming out in Cam;s and AU’s favor. Usually when the NCAA get’s involved to the level they appear to be at now ( by media reports) they find something either related or not related to the issue at hand. Example: AJ Green’s so called trip to Miami that resulted in the NCAA finding the case of Jersey selling instead of wrong doing in Miami..

TrishaDishaWarEagle

November 10th, 2010
1:36 pm

Tuscaloosa..TuscaLOSSa is their new nickname..sorry

Go Dawgs!

November 10th, 2010
1:36 pm

TrishaDishaWarEagle

You should hope Caudle & Burns get some snaps btween now and Saturday!

not aNewton fan

November 10th, 2010
1:37 pm

You obviously have partiality to Newton. “So what?” If these allegations are true, so what? That’s your response? Are you serious? And how ticked off are you going to be if it is revealed that it is all true and the shmuck was just trying to get away with it? There is something really fishy about that young man – he really acts like he thrives on attention and if he is that proud about his athletic ability, I wouldn’t be surprised if he was flaunting himself by requesting money. We shall see- just beware…. I wouldn’t be so eager to defend someone who has been in trouble with the law already. Might come back to bite ya!

Mobile Dawg

November 10th, 2010
1:37 pm

I don’t have anything against the Bammers Trisha but wouldn’t Tuscalosers be more appropriate to what you really mean.

MURPHY

November 10th, 2010
1:38 pm

Big Dawg,

Ni I was serious I dont know anything about Vegas betting. Probably a good thing,I would probably be in the poor house right now.No offense taken.

TrishaDishaWarEagle

November 10th, 2010
1:38 pm

Murphy, any program under a microscope probably will have some minor issue dicovered..but thats wholesale different from paying $200,000 to land a player which AU , from the AD down, swears never happened. Those people have careers much longer than a season..and they do not Jeapordize them that way in this day and age. well..except that one guy at UGA …but even that was NOT football related.

Big Dawg

November 10th, 2010
1:38 pm

@Dawg Tired

He said that last year. Now I have a better understanding of why he wanted to quit.

Brantley’s the best QB???

Gimme a break! His best QB was an NCAA probation waiting to happen. At least Florida was smart enough to dump him — eventually.

Mobile Dawg

November 10th, 2010
1:39 pm

What’s the old saying “not a newton fan”, you can “usually” judge the future behavior of someone based on their “past” behavior. Not always, but “usually” people don’t tend to change to much.

not aNewton fan

November 10th, 2010
1:41 pm

EXACTLY Mobile Dawg! EXACTLY!

Robbie E.

November 10th, 2010
1:41 pm

All this “unknown source” stuff is making me SICK!
ESPN should not of report the “money” quote about Cam because it’s a 2nd HAND quote.
The entire list of allegations is disgusting- timing, secrecy- and I hope the SEC or NCAA addresses
these issues >>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>
********
The NCAA and the SEC have an obligation to PROTECT THE STUDENT ATHLETE !!!!!!
Allegations that are mere rumor should be kept in house until evidence is presented (ie bank account info, telephone wire taps, ect….)

BAMA dude

November 10th, 2010
1:42 pm

Mobile Dawg

November 10th, 2010
1:37 pm
I don’t have anything against the Bammers Trisha but wouldn’t Tuscalosers be more appropriate to what you really mean.

No, she went to the Barn to be an enjinear. She said it exactly how she thinked it.

Big Dawg

November 10th, 2010
1:42 pm

TrishaDishaWarEagle:

“Everybody does it”

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

TrishaDishaWarEagle

November 10th, 2010
1:42 pm

so basically as long as AU did not pay Cam, they are in the clear..and they obviously DID NOT pay Cam, according to Coach Chizik, the AD, director of recruiting, you name it.

Get ready for a beat down, dogs..he may throw 8 and run for 4 now that he is mad.

Mobile Dawg

November 10th, 2010
1:43 pm

That one gave me a belly laugh Bama dude….

MURPHY

November 10th, 2010
1:44 pm

TDWEagle,

I just hope you dont get egg on your face here on this blog.I said the same in defending AJ and had to really backtrack when it came out he had broke the rules.

Big Dawg

November 10th, 2010
1:45 pm

Maybe having a chip on their shoulder over the Cam Newton issue explains why MSU has had such a good season so far?

CFB is a game of motivation — no doubt about that.

BAMA dude

November 10th, 2010
1:47 pm

TrishaDishaWarEagle

November 10th, 2010
1:42 pm
so basically as long as AU did not pay Cam, they are in the clear..and they obviously DID NOT pay Cam, according to Coach Chizik, the AD, director of recruiting, you name it.

Man, you’re thick. THIS IS NOT THE CASE. If Cam or Cecil compromised Cam’s eligibility WITH OR WITHOUT anyone at Auburn knowing it then they will have to vacate every win that Cam participated in, meaning Auburn would be sitting at 0-10 right now.

TrishaDishaWarEagle

November 10th, 2010
1:47 pm

Murphy, my main concern is AU..AU is not responsible IF (big if) he cheated at UF..and it has no standing on his eligibility. AU is in the clear as long as they did not pay him..and it appears they are Heavily Adamant that they did NOT. I believe in Coach Chizik and AD Jacobs. I do not believe in second hand rumors from south mississippi..If you have proof of said allegations, I will look at it with an open mind.

Mobile Dawg

November 10th, 2010
1:48 pm

Trisha (if you would change your handle you would be taken a bit more serious), how many times has it been said, IF, Newtons “interests” are found to have been “represented” by someone, he becomes ineligible. Do you know what the penalty is for playing an “ineligible” player?

LSUFan

November 10th, 2010
1:48 pm

Trish,
When you make sense, please come back to the conversation. “Minor issues”…lol. You are laughable.

not aNewton fan

November 10th, 2010
1:49 pm

TDWEagle- are you going to come back on here and eat crow if it’s revealed that Newton did receive a payoff?

Bob

November 10th, 2010
1:50 pm

Yes, yes, that’s the answer. Punish those who expose the dirty laundry for all to see. Our Golden Child must be shielded from the harsh light of scrutiny.

If Cam didn’t want the attention, he should never have stepped onto the pitch. His actions are the cause, not those who think they should be more widely known rather than smothered in endless layers of “Let’s Make the SEC Look Pretty” bureaucratic bs.

TrishaDishaWarEagle

November 10th, 2010
1:50 pm

The way i read the rules, you would have to get something from or in benefit to the institution you play for. otherwise, I could mail $100 bills to every player on the Bama team and if they do not all get sent back immediatly, I can call ESPN and have their season voided.

TrishaDishaWarEagle

November 10th, 2010
1:50 pm

not a newton fan, IF…then yes, after a long cry, yes

Tech75

November 10th, 2010
1:51 pm

Repeat after me…

G** Damn boosters….

TrishaDishaWarEagle

November 10th, 2010
1:51 pm

Change my screen name from a guy called Dawg? were all having fun here ..

Mobile Dawg

November 10th, 2010
1:52 pm

Have a good day all…Go Dawgs….Watch out Sataday Trish, I’m gonna pee on your tree….UGA VIII.

dawgrific

November 10th, 2010
1:53 pm

Is anyone surprised that the Auburn Limo picked up folks with talent and no character/integrity whatsoever?! Seriously, I can’t believe that that whole Limo thing is allowed to go on, as it is an embarrassment to the recruiting process, college football, the SEC, and especially to anyone affilliated with Auburn in any way.

BAMA dude

November 10th, 2010
1:53 pm

TrishaDishaWarEagle

November 10th, 2010
1:50 pm
The way i read the rules, you would have to get something from or in benefit to the institution you play for. otherwise, I could mail $100 bills to every player on the Bama team and if they do not all get sent back immediatly, I can call ESPN and have their season voided.

Actually $1000 is where the NCAA draws the line for a “major” infraction in that case. Here we are talking about a possible agent-player relationship. The NCAA does not allow players to have agents. if Cecil authorized Rogers or anyone else to seek any kind of payment then Cam is ineligible whether anyone ponied up or not.

TrishaDishaWarEagle

November 10th, 2010
1:53 pm

LSU, as laughable as your defense was on october 23rd?

Big Dawg

November 10th, 2010
1:55 pm

@TrishaDishaWarEagle

No you couldn’t. There is no rule (to my knowledge) against players receiving anonymous free money in the mail. You might have a new scam there Trish. Maybe Auburn can use that when they are trying to dig themselves out of this hole over the next five or six years?

Coach Chizik: We can’t pay you, but wait till you experience the Auburn Mail Call young man. Just remember to keep it down home cuz.

Dr. Phil

November 10th, 2010
1:56 pm

If Newton’s dad laundered money through his church, or churches, the IRS will probably catch him. If Auburn paid, or if MS State offered to pay, or if UF paid, they should receive a very stiff penalty. I wonder what the timeline is for MS State. They clearly didn’t report the Kenny Rogers offer until after Newton signed at Auburn. The NCAA and the SEC are making too much money to enact any serious change that would affect their own pocketbooks. It also appears that any quack can go to espn or Fox sports and get almost anything in the media. The whole thing stinks for college football, the NCAA, the SEC, and the media outets who are feasting on the publicity.

TrishaDishaWarEagle

November 10th, 2010
1:58 pm

back to work.. Here is MY prediction..We will see how it plays out..

AU beats UGA

AU beats the pink elephants(with or without the tutu’s they were wearing in Baton rouge)

AU beats Florida in Atlanta

AU is YOUR 2010 SEC champion

AU beats Oregon in a shootout in January

Big Dawg

November 10th, 2010
2:01 pm

AU beats UGA

AU beats the pink elephants(with or without the tutu’s they were wearing in Baton rouge)

AU beats Florida in Atlanta

AU is YOUR 2010 SEC champion

AU beats Oregon in a shootout in January

AU gets stripped of 14 victories for the 2010 season and faces five year’s NCAA probation.

Waw Weagle!!!

Da Flood

November 10th, 2010
2:02 pm

You sound like a rabid Newton apologist. You were so eager to post this article, no one proofed it. My favorite segment: “Federal judges don’t really care that much about college football. They do care about people violating federal law for their own amusement.” Really? Now you’re a legal expert?

Not So Fast

November 10th, 2010
2:04 pm

Hey Trisha:

There’s a saying, “if you lay down with a dog, you get up with fleas”.

AU is responsible if they got in bed with these cheaters.

TrishaDishaWarEagle

November 10th, 2010
2:05 pm

one more item to show what internet rumors are worth…

There was story and multiple messages on Twitter earlier Wednesday that referenced an ESPN Dallas report that Newton was on the verge of being suspended, possibly within “three to four hours.” In fact, the ESPN reporter, Ian Fitzsimmons, says he was misquoted, that all he said was a story like this can change in three or four hours.

MURPHY

November 10th, 2010
2:07 pm

TDWEagle,

You forgot one:

AU forfiets all games for have an in-elible player-This could happen

Robbie E.

November 10th, 2010
2:10 pm

Ian Fitzsimmons?

what a HACK

MURPHY

November 10th, 2010
2:13 pm

TDWEagle,

Ever heard of guilty by association?

Reggie Bush

November 10th, 2010
2:14 pm

Don’t worry kid. You’ll get a big payday in the draft and the school is left 6to pays the penalty. At least you won’t have to give a Trophy back, cause your Heisman hopes are toast.

BAMA dude

November 10th, 2010
2:16 pm

RT@wareagleextra: Chizik asked question about Newton. Does not answer. “I’m going to entertain all the questions that have to do with the game Saturday.”

Yesterday Cheezit was talking about charcter assassination. Today he has no comment. I think we all know what “no comment” usually means in these situations…

Go Dawgs!

November 10th, 2010
2:21 pm

TrishaDishaWarEagle

You are the reason I read this blog, hilarious!

Driving Ms Dooley

November 10th, 2010
2:21 pm

Ok, I just talked to a guy in Knoxville, and he said that AJ Green wanted money from them and then he told them he wanted a Solid Gold Jetski and a hot tub full of caviar. Since he didn’t go to Tn, Georgia must have met his demands.

Does anybody have the number for ESPN? Does anybody know how to spell it?

Driving Ms Dooley

November 10th, 2010
2:24 pm

Trish,
did you hear the other story about Cam???

IN THREE OR FOUR HOURS…..Cam is going to ……DINNER!!!!!!!!

Get ESPN on the line quick!!!

TrishaDishaWarEagle

November 10th, 2010
2:25 pm

@Driving Ms Dooley

You could try calling 911, but I don’t know their number either.

BAMA dude

November 10th, 2010
2:26 pm

Driving Ms Dooley

November 10th, 2010
2:21 pm
Ok, I just talked to a guy in Knoxville, and he said that AJ Green wanted money from them and then he told them he wanted a Solid Gold Jetski and a hot tub full of caviar. Since he didn’t go to Tn, Georgia must have met his demands.

Is the FBI involved? ESPN doesn’t typically report garbage. There are all sorts of silly internet rumors that fly around- this Cam bit obviously has legs.

TrishaDishaWarEagle

November 10th, 2010
2:26 pm

That espn telephone number would be 1-800-WELVTCU

TrishaDishaWarEagle

November 10th, 2010
2:26 pm

ah the cowardly name stealer is back

Driving Ms Dooley

November 10th, 2010
2:27 pm

hey Not So Fast:

regarding your statement: There’s a saying, “if you lay down with a dog, you get up with fleas”.

No, it’s if you lay down your bet with The Dawgs, you end up losing your house.

MURPHY

November 10th, 2010
2:28 pm

Or the back desk line: 1-800-welvbsu

TrishaDishaWarEagle

November 10th, 2010
2:28 pm

John Bond is the one the FBI wanted to speak to, and he denied on Buck and Kincaid that he even SPOKE with Rogers, which would make all the allegations MOOT.

Tony....

November 10th, 2010
2:29 pm

Just in case you want to write a story on the Fulmer Cup… here is some info to get you started….

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The Fulmer Cup, named after Tennessee Volunteers head coach and his school of well-behaved student-athletes, is an invention of EDSBS.

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Also check out the all-time scoreboard, the 2006 scoreboard, the 2007 scoreboard, the 2008 Scoreboard, and the 2009 Scoreboard.

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1st Georgia Bulldogs 20 — Fake IDs, drinking, disorderly conduct, obstruction, Domestic violence, Drunk with Fake ID, AD goes drinking, Refusing to give middle name, Underage DUI, Hit and Run

The Dawgs are #1 !!

TrishaDishaWarEagle

November 10th, 2010
2:29 pm

Ah, but you can’t bet on the Dawgs now. Seems they’re playing a team that’s just too dirty for Vegas to get involved with next Saturday.

Driving Ms Dooley

November 10th, 2010
2:30 pm

Ok Bama Dude, but I was on board when you reported the 3 or 4 hour thing and now I’m back to my earlier stance of “show me the money, or the paper trail, or the recording. Otherwise, change the channel, I wanna see what Cam is going to do to Georgia”

Bama Ramma

November 10th, 2010
2:30 pm

Auburn should declare newton ineligible, ASAP! Too much money flowing around that town. Bama shouldn’t have to play Auburn if they are cheating. Coach Saban would never put up with this–he’ll demand that auburn not play newton in the iron bowl!

BAMA dude

November 10th, 2010
2:31 pm

Driving Ms Dooley

November 10th, 2010
2:30 pm
Ok Bama Dude, but I was on board when you reported the 3 or 4 hour thing and now I’m back to my earlier stance of “show me the money, or the paper trail, or the recording. Otherwise, change the channel, I wanna see what Cam is going to do to Georgia”

Report? Me? More like repeat what I read. This channel ain’t changing any time soon. It will follow Auburn and be a lead story on the sports page until more facts are known or the season ends.

TrishaDishaWarEagle

November 10th, 2010
2:32 pm

Hasn’t Georgia already been embarrassed enough just for the fact that Cam Newton lived here?

TrishaDishaWarEagle

November 10th, 2010
2:34 pm

stop posting with my screen name, idiot

Jdawg

November 10th, 2010
2:37 pm

Au is now known as the NEW DIRTY BIRDS !

Driving Ms Dooley

November 10th, 2010
2:37 pm

Bama,

Report?? Me?? That’s the whole point. I read it first right here and it was your post. Don’t make me go back and look it up.

What about the Gold Jetski in the hot tub filled with caviar?? Anybody heard anything on that yet? Gotta be true. Might not have been AJ though. Could have been that little oriental dude from the movie The Hangover

GatorBoy

November 10th, 2010
2:43 pm

Didn’t Cam shoot off that missle in California!
You can’t prove he DIDN’T!

WHERE_THERE_IS_SMOKE

November 10th, 2010
2:44 pm

For those who keep harping on the old phrase, “Where there is smoke there is fire” ……

Try telling that to the Duke LaCrosse team.

takedowndawg

November 10th, 2010
2:45 pm

trishadisha, Please settle this once and for all, SEC member colleges want to know, ARE you war eagles, OR are you tigers. Don’t you think that it could lend someone that your university suffers from some sort of split personality disorder or worst???? Please, clear this up once and for all time!!!!!!!!!trishadisha……

Driving Ms Dooley

November 10th, 2010
2:46 pm

@ takedowndawg
They are Plainsmen. And War Eagles and Tigers. More mascots that way.

ReddJonn68

November 10th, 2010
2:51 pm

Why are blogs not being posted ???

Driving Ms Dooley

November 10th, 2010
2:54 pm

@ ReddJonn68

Why are blogs not being posted ???

Isn’t it obvious?? ESPN is reporting that Cam Newton stole all the blogs and demanded money for their return. I’m glad I had my ATM card next to me with $200k in the account.

Jdawg

November 10th, 2010
2:59 pm

Did anyone ever explain to Scam and Scam Sr. that lieing, cheating and stealing are sins. I guess the Good Rev. must have missed that class in seminary. He must have been on Dialing for Donations that day.

Concern

November 10th, 2010
3:07 pm

If the transgressions mentioned did in fact occur and the U of FL did not document and disclose timely then the university is at fault and must suffer serious consequences ie several years of probation for all sport programs due to lack of oversight and control in order to preclude future occurances.

Top Dawg

November 10th, 2010
3:09 pm

How much did Cam’s daddy get for Cam to commit straight out of high school to Florida????

Urban released this info on Cam to get the heat off of his back. Florida fans keep watching Cam play and then wondering how in the heck did Urban let him leave!!!

Dumbo

November 10th, 2010
3:17 pm

TB…please, I miss the old days of Gotcha, I used to really enjoy all the rumors and innuendos in football that Alabama was making about Auburn and Tennessee, Florida about FSU & Miami, Tennessee about Alabama and lordy, everybody about Kentucky basketball……heck I bet it even made your job easy back then

Dumbo

November 10th, 2010
3:21 pm

Driving Ms Dooley…with all them mascots, it sure sounds like they must be having an identity crisis or two or three

jomo

November 10th, 2010
3:26 pm

@rokdawg, You KNOW Cam stole a laptop? If that’s the case, you are the only one. Even the police thought he bought it, and that’s why the charges were dropped to a misdemeanor. Good thing you are here to clear that up, so Cam will get the justice he deserves. You are just as bad as those ESPN idiots who take a small rumor and spin it in to presumed fact. Not one of this things that has been alleged has been proven. All the information, even things coming out today, have been known by the NCAA since before the summer. Anything Miss St. has on this has been given to the NCAA. And, since they are still letting Cam play despite the supposed “recorded phone conversations” about Cam’s pay-to-play scam, then there can’t be much validity to them. Get your facts straight before you start sending people to the guillotine.

BAMA dude

November 10th, 2010
3:34 pm

And, since they are still letting Cam play despite the supposed “recorded phone conversations” about Cam’s pay-to-play scam, then there can’t be much validity to them.

Actually the NCAA doesn’t suspend players in this case. It can declare them ineligible, but doesn’t actually suspend them. The school makes the decision to play him during the investigation or hold him out until the NCAA rules one way or the other. If they choose the former and he’s deemed ineligible then they forfeit those games.

Don

November 10th, 2010
3:39 pm

Gotta LMAO when I see/hear this self proclaimed “Mr. Football” he stuck his Alabama foot in his mouth with Paul Finebaum (who is he- looks like a West Nevada undertaker) watching in Pious agreement. Will he eat crow – just how much?

Dumbo

November 10th, 2010
3:43 pm

Don…Beirnbaum…err Finebaumer..or whatever his name is… is a jerk who only has eyes for Saban and kisses for his tush!!!!!!!!

High School in College

November 10th, 2010
3:48 pm

Of Course it about High School…We still TP Tree here at Auburn

James

November 10th, 2010
3:48 pm

Come on!!! Is someone seriously trying to compare the Duke lacrosse fiasco to this!?!?!? Those boys freedom was on the line, not just eligibility for a game. Besides, the Duke story grew increasingly flimsy as it went along, unlike this one which is growing increasing stronger.

You should be ashamed of yourself to make such a comparison.

dawg

November 10th, 2010
3:49 pm

And did anyone notice the THIRTEEN traffic charges he piled up 2007-2008 with one still outstanding and that is available through the open records act. As Cam put it, that happened 2 years ago and it’s like beating a dead horse. Excuse me ?

James

November 10th, 2010
3:50 pm

Bottomline is, Auburn is putting all their marbles into the Cam basket. If and when this blows up in their face they are severely screwed. Remember, when the NCAA went after AJ about a made up “Miami agent party,” they completely disregarded that lie and kept digging until they found something, even something as stupid as a student selling his OWN property. Newton is screwed.

Dumbo

November 10th, 2010
4:03 pm

If ya’ll think that NCAA is gonna complete this inquiry anytime soon, I’ve got some Mountain property for in Florida, look how long it took to get Reggie Bush…what 5 years or something…give it a break!

James ..

November 10th, 2010
4:12 pm

AJ broke the rules, and admitted he knew he was breaking the rules. Lets not rewrite history here

5150 P.O.A.D

November 10th, 2010
4:14 pm

Where there is smoke there is FIRE?
I have the new cigarettes that just Smoke and there is no FIRE!

Not So Fast

November 10th, 2010
4:14 pm

Hey James:

Get your facts staight. There was a party that several players attended and have since repaid the cost of rooms and tramsportation. AJ denied atteneing it.

James

November 10th, 2010
4:14 pm

AJ did not admit to knowing he broke the rules. Let’s not be bitter Auburn liars here

James

November 10th, 2010
4:15 pm

AJ denied attending because he didn’t attend. Your point???

Not So Fast

November 10th, 2010
4:20 pm

Hey James:

“a made up “Miami agent party,”

The point is you are not correct. The party happened it was not “made up” as you say IN ERROR. You don’t know what you’re talking about, or, you are less than truthful; which?

James

November 10th, 2010
4:22 pm

I am correct since it was MADE UP about AJ attending. Why is this so difficult for you an Auburn fan to understand? Are you this bitter??

G8R GRAD

November 10th, 2010
4:27 pm

“Urban released this info on Cam to get the heat off of his back. Florida fans keep watching Cam play and then wondering how in the heck did Urban let him leave!!!”

Rubbish, pure & simple.

Rednek Bammer

November 10th, 2010
4:28 pm

As I recall, many people suspected that AJ was involved with the ‘Miami Agent’ party only because so many other players had attended and also because nobody outside of the investigation actually knew what was being investigated.

When it finally came out that AJ was not involved with the party, then some Georgia fans wanted to claim that as exoneration, but he was charged with a violation regarding the jersey sale and he was never publicly accused by the NCAA of anything else.

Not So Fast

November 10th, 2010
4:29 pm

Hey James:

You said, “the NCAA went after AJ about a made up “Miami agent party,” you are saying the party is “made up”. your words. If didn’t mean that than say so. If you’re so slow as to not understand common english than say so don’t start the “Auburn fan BS. I am not a fan of Auburn or any SEC program.

G8R GRAD

November 10th, 2010
4:30 pm

Sorry:

Botom Dog:

“Urban released this info on Cam to get the heat off of his back. Florida fans keep watching Cam play and then wondering how in the heck did Urban let him leave!!!”

Rubbish, pure & simple.

Rednek Bammer

November 10th, 2010
4:33 pm

@G8R GRAD

That’s a silly bit of satire you quoted there, but really, I want to know your opinion.

Do you really think that Cam Newton voluntarily left Florida because Coach Meyer didn’t think that he was good enough to play for the Gators?

Not So Fast

November 10th, 2010
4:37 pm

Hey Rednek:

Looks like Newton left because he was about to be expelled. I am not sure, but I don’t think he would have been allowed in another SEC program if he had been expelled for cheating.

Not So Fast

November 10th, 2010
4:39 pm

Hey James:
So which is it, don’t know what you’re talking about, or dishonest?……crickets…

Rednek Bammer

November 10th, 2010
4:43 pm

Hey There NSF,

I was about to post this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQFEY9RIRJA

Doesn’t matter whether he could have been accepted into another SEC school. He had to go JUCO to play last year. I’m just having a hard time buying the original storyline that Urban didn’t recognize the talent in a player that he, himself recruited. Did Cam really improve that much in his one year at Blinn? If so, hats off to the Blinn coaching staff — they’re better than the Florida crew.

Not So Fast

November 10th, 2010
4:46 pm

James

November 10th, 2010
4:48 pm

My mistake then Not So Fast, you are an even more pathetic Yech fan. I should have known. It was pretty obvious. Anyone with a lick of sense was able to comprehend what I said. Are you implying AJ was at the party then??? If he wasn’t, it was made up, end of story.

LOL, your anger and bitterness give you away as a Jackette, I should have seen it!!

Rednek Bammer

November 10th, 2010
4:48 pm

Guess everybody’s gone to bed early?

Dadgum Daylight Saving Time…

See ya’ll later!

Rednek Bammer

November 10th, 2010
4:50 pm

@James

Can you provide a link to a news source in which the NCAA accuses AJ of attending a party in Miami?

Rednek Bammer

November 10th, 2010
4:53 pm

I mean, I’m not a Barner nor a Ramblin’ Wreck, but I can see the problem with your POV. You’re just angry because someone on your team got into trouble with the NCAA. Just imagine how the real Barners feel right now. AJ got off easy.

Rednek Bammer

November 10th, 2010
4:54 pm

James

November 10th, 2010
4:54 pm

Are you saying AJ wasn’t accused of being at the party? Did the NCAA not come to Athens to investigate the Miami party? You are so silly Not So Fast, even with your other handle ;)

Driving Ms Dooley

November 10th, 2010
4:54 pm

@ dawg concerning…

And did anyone notice the THIRTEEN traffic charges he piled up 2007-2008 with one still outstanding

Dig a little deeper dawg and you’ll see he was a suspect in a stolen car incident in Atl before he even left for Fla. I’m not one to spread rumors, but Mark Richt passed on him amidst allegations he had sexually assaulted a classmate. Unbelievable!

And in four hours (or three, not sure ask Bama Dude) the FBI and a SWAT team are gonna raid Cecils church. Unbelievable!

This stuff is unbeleivable for a reason. Jump on the Dump-on bandwagon all you Cam Haters. I’m not makin this stuff up, just passing it along. And did you know that when he was in middle school….

Rednek Bammer

November 10th, 2010
4:56 pm

I’m not NSF. I’m a rednek Bammer.

Can you provide a link to a news source in which the NCAA accuses AJ of attending a party in Miami?

BAMA dude

November 10th, 2010
4:57 pm

Dan Mullen on Newton, “The people who need to know the truth, know the truth.”

Interesting.

James

November 10th, 2010
4:57 pm

Are you saying the NCAA didn’t come to Athens to investigate the Miami story? Is that your stance? Yes or no

Rednek Bammer

November 10th, 2010
4:58 pm

@Driving Ms Dooley

Trisha, you should call Reverend Newton and have him pray for you.

James

November 10th, 2010
4:59 pm

Driving Ms Dooley

November 10th, 2010
4:59 pm

Did anybody else hear about the Cam/kitten bashing incident? The Humane society is looking into it. ESPN first reported it on this blog.

Kinda hard to tell the crap from the crap on here sometimes

James

November 10th, 2010
5:00 pm

Don’t choke on it, tool ;)

Are you one of these trolls that’s like to demand links for even the most obvious of stories? For example, do I need to provide you a link to prove today is Wednesday? LOL!!

Rednek Bammer

November 10th, 2010
5:00 pm

James,

I’ve made my stance pretty danged clear. Your complaints about the party in Miami are nothing more than a straw-man diversionary tactic to distract from the fact that AJ got into trouble with the NCAA regarding his amateur status.

Can you provide a link to a news source in which the NCAA accuses AJ of attending a party in Miami?

Beast from the East

November 10th, 2010
5:01 pm

Rednek Bammer,
To answer your question, Cam was suspended indefinetly for the laptop incident. He says he chose to transfer after Tebow announced he was coming back for his senior year. In hindsight, it appears he really left because of the academic issues and his suspension from the football team. The decision to transfer was his….not Meyer’s.

Driving Ms Dooley

November 10th, 2010
5:01 pm

Bama Dude

You can’t handle the truth! Sorry Bama Dude but anytime I get to do my Jack Nicholson, I can’t resist

coolerking

November 10th, 2010
5:02 pm

Seriously Rednek, why did you need a link for something that was reported nationally for weeks? Are you that stupid or just that bored?

James

November 10th, 2010
5:03 pm

It’s been provided troll, now what do you have to say about being proven a liar? It’s hilarious that I you actually demanded a link to something that was common knowledge this summer.

Don’t choke on your crow now, boy ;)

hahahahaha!!!!

November 10th, 2010
5:04 pm

Don’t feed the troll guys!!! Demanding a link to the AJ South Beach investigation just proves you live under a rock!!

James

November 10th, 2010
5:06 pm

This dude is definitely weird. Refusing to admit that the NCAA originally began the AJ investigation about the Miami party? I mean, seriously, how desperate can you get

hahahahaha!!!!

November 10th, 2010
5:06 pm

Rednek Bammer got BUUUUUUUUUUUUUURRRRRRRNNNNNNNNNN!!!!!!!!!!

Rednek Bammer

November 10th, 2010
5:06 pm

From Your Link:

The NCAA has informed Georgia that it will come to campus to interview a football player or players in connection with the ongoing agent investigation that already prompted visits to North Carolina and South Carolina. Georgia athletic department spokesman Claude Felton confirmed early Wednesday evening that Georgia compliance officials received notification from the NCAA late Wednesday afternoon.

Felton said Georgia officials had promised the NCAA that no one would comment on the contents of the investigation. A source said one potential interview subject is junior receiver A.J. Green, but if enforcement officials plan to ask Green about the now-infamous party in Miami Beach, Fla., on Memorial Day weekend that prompted the inquiries at North Carolina and South Carolina and an internal investigation at Alabama, they won’t learn much.

Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/football/ncaa/07/21/georgia.investigation/index.html#ixzz14v4ug7vf

As I said in my previous post, many people speculated that the investigation involved the party. They were apparently incorrect in their assumptions, weren’t they?

This article doesn’t report that the NCAA ever accused AJ of attending a party, in Miami, or elsewhere. Facts matter.

Rednek Bammer

November 10th, 2010
5:10 pm

Do you mean to imply that the NCAA “made up” the charges against AJ simply because they found out that he didn’t attend the Miami party?

If not, then WTF do you mean to imply? It’s a fair question, and I’m not the original poster to ask the question.

BAMA dude

November 10th, 2010
5:10 pm

Driving Ms Dooley

November 10th, 2010
4:59 pm
Did anybody else hear about the Cam/kitten bashing incident? The Humane society is looking into it. ESPN first reported it on this blog.

Kinda hard to tell the crap from the crap on here sometimes

You’re grasping at straws. The information earlier was everywhere and was credible enough for the betting line to move a full point toward UGA in 10 minutes, prompting the books to pull the game. The folks who put their money on it are concerned that Cam may not play Saturday.

Not So Fast

November 10th, 2010
5:10 pm

Hey James:

Now do I have this right. It is your belief that AJ selling a Jersey provided to him by the University to a Agent/Runner for $1000 does not effect his status, and is some how not as bad at attending a party.

Rednek Bammer

November 10th, 2010
5:15 pm

You know James, one of our players got caught up in that agent scam as well, but you don’t hear me making up BS excuses for it. He screwed up. He got caught. He paid a price.

Life goes on…

Rednek Bammer

November 10th, 2010
5:16 pm

Driving Ms Dooley

November 10th, 2010
5:17 pm

I’m with ya Bama Dude I just couldn’t help laughing when somebody was ragging on his outstanding traffice ticket.

No offense. This horse is dead. I don’t care about his driving record. I care about two things:

Is he elgible to play??

Is he the best player in college football?

Now obviously I won’t turn a blind eye to the obvious, but this story is so hot that people are just piling on at this point. I’m going to tune it out till something new and substantial and documented comes along.

Later.

Rednek Bammer

November 10th, 2010
5:20 pm

@Beast from the East

Yes. That appears to have been the case. I don’t think it had anything to do with talent, or Cam’s lack thereof.

Rednek Bammer

November 10th, 2010
5:23 pm

@Driving Ms Dooley

I agree that what happened at Florida is not relevant. Establishing a pattern of dishonesty regarding what happened at Florida is another kettle of fish altogether.

BAMA dude

November 10th, 2010
5:23 pm

Last tidbit then I’m out. Apparently Schad went on Finebaum today. Said he had four total sources, two with firsthand knowledge and two others. He said all of their stories corroborate. He also said that he would abstain from voting for the Heisman, he and ESPN deciding that he is too close to the story to be impartial. Later all.

We run this state

November 10th, 2010
5:31 pm

Tony. why are you assuming that a coach leaked this? If a player puts his name on a paper written by someone else or gets caught passing off work he bought on the Internet as his own, why would you assume that only football coaches would know about this? How about other students?

And if it is other students, they’re not violating anything. They’re not faxing copies of his transcripts to Foxsports. They’re just telling the story of what they know to have happened. And they don’t answer to Mike Slive.

And what is Cam Newton’s response to all this? I won’t confirm or deny something that happened two years ago.

Hairy Dawg

November 10th, 2010
5:34 pm

The real question here is if anybody can find the money that Auburn boosters paid Newton’s dad.

If money never changed hands (or it did and the tracks have been sufficiently covered), then the odds are good that this investigation will go nowhere. If somebody talks and some money is found, Auburn’s gonna be on probation for the umpteenth time. Mississippi State and Florida may also have some problems as well. After all, these MSU folks might be making themselves look a little better in this situation. Maybe it wasn’t so much of a refusal to pay as it was an inability to scare up enough funds?

No matter what happens, it’s a juicy story for all of us SEC people to be obsessing over. It’s been a while since we had a good recruiting scandal.

Critics R paid to hate Everybody

November 10th, 2010
5:39 pm

spread lies too.

UGA2002

November 10th, 2010
5:40 pm

Auburn 62 and UGA 17.

I changed my tune. Why? Because Georgia will be the first thing a pissed off Auburn and Cam Newton get to hit and it’s gonna be ugly for us. Not to mention, we have bad coaches. UGLY.

BULLDAWG BILL

November 10th, 2010
5:51 pm

I went on the Alachua County, FL, website and found that Cameron Newton had 8 traffic violations while in Gainesville, It looks like he only paid a fine of $125 for one of the eight. All the others were “closed”. I don’t think this would happen in Athens! Someone should look into “ticket fixing” in Gainesville for Gator football players.

Rednek Bammer

November 10th, 2010
5:52 pm

I figured the offer to MSU was the extent of the story. That alone would have rendered Cam ineligible. I really am shocked to hear that Auburn might have paid for Cam to play. It’s hard to believe they were willing to take that much risk to get the kid.

TrishaDishaWarEagle

November 10th, 2010
6:03 pm

It’s just RUMOR and INNUENDO so far…if you have EVIDENCE, please post it…

Next , some idiot at ESPN will say Cam was on the grassy knoll !

Bond says he never talked to the Rogers guy..
OU says nobody approached them about cam!
AU says noone approached them about Cam!
MSU says different things on different damn days!

The only FACTS thus far are:

1.Cam Newton WILL PLAY saturday!!

2. The NCAA has accused AU of NOTHING!!

Rednek Bammer

November 10th, 2010
6:05 pm

@Trisha

I don’t believe the NCAA has yet released the results of it’s investigation. Good luck with that, though. You’ll need it. :-)

FRED

November 10th, 2010
6:07 pm

LOOK FOR A COMPLETE BLOW OUT BY AUBURN ON SATURDAY.

TrishaDishaWarEagle

November 10th, 2010
6:19 pm

I just got a tweet from Earlie Cuyler that spilled the secret about UGAs friday game prep….

“Allow me to explain the process. Pine cones go in here, party liquors comes out here and proceed to here. [points to mouth] . Fights begin, finger prints are took, days is lost, bail is made, court dates are ignored, cycle is repeated.”

Ole Miss

November 10th, 2010
6:23 pm

This is a very informative story, but there are a bunch of grammatical errors. The title of it is wrong. I enjoyed reading this but some of the errors made it hard to at times.

Savannah Jacket

November 10th, 2010
6:24 pm

Tony, I know you are busy with your column, TV show, and so forth, but do you ever proofread your articles before posting them? I gave up on errors when I reached double digits. If I were a referee, you would be flagged for flagrant violations of journalism (or at least use of the English language). Damn!

Rednek Bammer

November 10th, 2010
6:25 pm

Ha!

Tony could use a proofreader, couldn’t he?

Driving Ms Dooley

November 10th, 2010
6:28 pm

I just heard on ESPN that Cam was not confirmed to be on the grassy knoll but a fan from Ole Miss will swear that the lone gunman was seen giving money to Cam.

Cam will not confirm or deny the story.

Where’s my gavel?

GUILTY!!

and pay you damned traffic fines or lose eligibility!

Rednek Bammer

November 10th, 2010
6:31 pm

Humor is a good coping mechanism.

Rednek Bammer

November 10th, 2010
6:33 pm

I’m trying to imagine why coaches at MSU would make false accusations against Auburn. The grassy knoll seems pretty reasonable in comparison to that conspiracy theory.

Driving Ms Dooley

November 10th, 2010
6:41 pm

@ Bammer
Humor is a good coping mechanism

So is Jack Daniels. But winning is the best thing so I’ll be freinds with Jack for about another two years. Although I suspect my Vols can still finish 6-6 which is just under par in the SEC Least.

Rednek Bammer

November 10th, 2010
7:13 pm

So you’re a Vol fan? You should just be glad that this soap opera has diverted attention away from Knoxville. Tennessee will be okay. I don’t know about Auburn. This looks much worse for them than I ever expected.

Rednek Bammer

November 10th, 2010
7:21 pm

Other CFB News:

Oregon is now relying on two freshmen as backup QBs. Their starting QB has been relieved due to injury once previously this season. This could be a critical injury.

EUGENE, Ore. (AP) — Oregon backup quarterback Nate Costa will need season-ending surgery for a right knee injury suffered in last Saturday’s victory over Washington, the team announced Tuesday.

Costa, a fifth-year senior and leader of the top-ranked Ducks, was hurt when he bobbled a field goal attempt – he also serves as the holder – and was tackled as he tried to scramble to the sideline with the ball. He was taken from the field on a cart.

The injury effectively ends Costa’s college career. He said he knew it even before he had an MRI on Monday.

Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/football/ncaa/11/09/oregon-nate-costa.ap/index.html#ixzz14vd17Pf3

fan

November 10th, 2010
7:23 pm

who care ncaa make money off them charge it to the game baby

Rednek Bammer

November 10th, 2010
7:25 pm

What is the game baby’s billing address?

Hit A Single

November 10th, 2010
7:44 pm

How much did Florida give Cam and his daddy?

Rednek Bammer

November 10th, 2010
7:52 pm

@Hit A Single

One wonders… Cam was certainly demanding a higher rental fee in 2009 than he might have fetched fresh out of High School. There’s no evidence nor accusation of that — yet. We’ll just have to check the headlines in the morning, I guess? ;-)

Hit A Single

November 10th, 2010
7:58 pm

Yea, dang if he cashed in at Florida and Auburn, Rev. Newton should be able to buy some new hymn books for his church.

S GA AU FAN

November 10th, 2010
9:11 pm

The money for the Church came from Cam’s brother who was playing in the NFL at the time.

UF says Cam was never referred to their review board for cheating. UF also says even if he had they don’t expel for cheating as they normally give probation (CBS)

The “sources” in the MSU are very shady and have even denied making or receiving any offers. (Rivals)

Cam is just like every one of us, a sinner who has made some mistakes.

WAR EAGLE!!

MikeP

November 10th, 2010
9:29 pm

rokdawgNovember 10th, 2010
7:56 am

Tony:

“We know Newton stole a computer …”
rokdawg, you just revealed your ignorance. Newton didn’t steal a computer. The rest of your information is just gossip from an “unnamed source.”
Learning how to do a little research will keep you from sounding so stupid.

MikeP

November 10th, 2010
9:47 pm

Not that anyone here might be interested in the truth but:
Even though all this seems like exciting new information to you, Auburn, the SEC office and the NCAA have been on it since January. There’s nothing there but a bunch of jealous, jilted fans gossiping. Sorry to rain on your parade.

SEC lunch links

November 10th, 2010
11:24 pm

[...] Barnhart of The Atlanta Journal-Constitution says SEC commissioner Mike Slive should step in during this whole Cam Newton [...]

DAWG55

November 11th, 2010
12:10 am

Tony…..Your wrong terribly wrong. Number 1 if any institution has the slightest hint of a pay for play offer by any recruit they should report it to the NCAA, A SECONDARY notice could also be sent to the SEC BUT they ARE NOT the proper authorities…..the NCAA IS! Period end of story. When this story first broke I couldn’t believe it but now,,,,,,just a gut feeling…..Auburn has lost this great season……all victories and championships will be eventually stripped. I think an over zealous booster did pay….and a great deal but they used the church his daddy ministers as a shelter to launder the payoff. This is the sticky wicket that has slowed the money trail search. Clever but also dumb…as money laundering has brought the FBI and its legal investigatory capabilities (a little better than the NCAA) into this case. I hope I’m wrong but I think this is going to get much more ugly and damaging to Auburn and by association to the whole SEC.

BoWeevil

November 11th, 2010
3:02 am

Another Slimy story in The SEC ?

You mean the conference :
1. Who has 7 teams ranked in the Top 25
2. Who has Won the BCS Championship Game every time we played it
3. Who has Won the BCS Championship Game last 4 years in a row
4. Who has the most players in the NFL
5. Who leads the nation in attendance every year
6. Who everyone else says is down this year
7. Who everyone else says is Slimy like Southern California
8. Who plays the Toughest Schedules of all teams
9. Who finds other conferences talking about out of conference cuz they have no in-conference
10. Who has the # 1 best recruiting classes for conference every year
11. Who beats the Top 25 teams better than any conference in nation
12. Who is so much better than every other conference in bowl games, you are jealous
13. Who leads nation in merchandise sales
14. Who is on TV every team every game
15. Who just distributed $209 million dollars among SEC 12 teams

Slimy that

BoWeevil

November 11th, 2010
3:09 am

What Auburn does

Auburn does

The SEC is not Auburn. In fact, Auburn has been a sordid school forever with The NCAA

If you look at Auburn 1994 and 2003 for example, nobody cares, nobody bothers

Most of the time Auburn is an after-thought

When they are not an after-thought, they get no respect in the nation

No respect for all these kinds of stories – more than any one

No respect for their out-of-conference cupcakes every year same thing.

What Auburn does, Auburn does – not The SEC did it. Auburn did it

Rednek Bammer

November 11th, 2010
5:21 am

True enough BoWeevil,

But unless we kick them out of the conference, we share their shame. The Newton family has left a stain on the SEC. I can sympathize with Auburn fans who cling to any last fleeting hope that this is only a bad dream, but I’m afraid that Auburn is in deep with the NCAA on this one.

It would have been bad enough that they merely chose to gamble that the pay-for-play scandal at MSU would be swept under the rug and subsequently allowed Cam to play while his eligibility was in doubt. That alone could have led to forfeiting the entire season. If the charges that Auburn actually paid for Cam’s services are true, then the upcoming NCAA sanctions might well turn out to be the most devastating that Auburn University has ever faced.

If the charges are not true, then Dan Mullen and Mississippi State have a lot of explaining to do. Cecil Newton has a lot of explaining to do, no matter how you look at it. He has been exposed as a serial liar.

joe suggs

November 11th, 2010
5:22 am

Who cares ! Just another Thug with athletic talent who will make millions carrying a leather ball down a grass field.They stay eligible just long enough to go pro . Also just look at the majors for some of these so called “student athletes” . What a joke !!!

Rob

November 11th, 2010
6:03 am

I love SEC football, but if a school has knowledge of a potential NCAA violation that report should be made to the NCAA, not funneled through the SEC office.

If someone employed by Florida leaked information about a cheating incident then they have violated the Federal Educational Rights Privacy Act (commonly called FERPA). If they did that, then the NCAA is the least of their problems.

Rednek Bammer

November 11th, 2010
6:10 am

Rob:

“Shoot the Messenger!”

Rednek Bammer

November 11th, 2010
7:33 am

Hey Tony… Wake up!

I want to know if you’re still calling for Slive to sweep Cam-gate under the rug.

BoWeevil

November 11th, 2010
7:44 am

You’ll get so worked up about some other team finally having the spot light instead of us, for bad press

Our bad press reflected on us

Auburn’s bad press reflects on them

The SEC is a lot bigger than Auburn and Georgia

James

November 11th, 2010
9:45 am

Poor little troll. You just hate it that I pantsed you with facts, ehh? The article clearly states what the investigation was about. Your pathetic spin is comical, but I guess I’d be ashamed too if were just blasted as a liar.

ramma

November 11th, 2010
10:32 am

when cam threw his laptop out the window—did it keep on working? if so, that’s a good laptop!

Terry Holcomb

November 11th, 2010
12:07 pm

At the very least Mike Slive needs to imediately force Auburn to sit Cam Newton out for the rest of the season.

Budd

November 11th, 2010
3:40 pm

fulmer did it

What a Dork

November 12th, 2010
7:10 am

James got pwned.

heh heh heh…

fedupwithslive

November 12th, 2010
8:47 pm

Mike Slive needs to be shown the door at the SEC. MS. State does the correct thing and he then slams them in a public statement. My guess is he is under pressure from the NCAA for a potential cover up. If ESPN wouldn’t have picked up on this story you can bet Slive would have kept it under the rug. Investigate Slive and you’ll see violations for sure. I’m thankful for a school like MS State for doing the right thing.