It may be time for Slive put his foot down again

In the South, we call it a ”Come to Jesus” meeting. That’s when the man (or woman) in charge of an organization calls everybody into a room and lays down the law. Any deviation from this path, the boss says, will result in serious consequences. You fail to heed this warning at your own peril, the boss emphasizes. Now go back out there and behave.

In May of 2009 SEC Commissioner Mike Slive had a “Come to Jesus” meeting with his coaches at the annual Spring Meetings in Destin. The Commish had had enough back biting between Florida coach Urban Meyer and the Boy Wonder at Tennessee, Lane Kiffin. Even Steve Spurrier had thrown in a little jab when asked.

Slive got all of the coaches into a room at the Sandestin Hilton and, in a lawyerly fashion (he is a former district court judge), read them the riot act. Any more of this public food fight and somebody, he warned, was going to get taken to the woodshed.

In the wake of the storm now engulfing the SEC concerning Auburn quarterback Cameron Newton, it could be time for Slive to put his foot down once more.

Here is what we know: The NCAA is investigating whether or not rules were violated in the recruitment of Newton.

That’s it.

But from that one fact has emerged waves charges and counter charges that bring back some very  of the worst days of the SEC.  Slive came on board in 2002 and wanted to clean up the dark side of this conference where rumor and whispers were used as weapons in an attempt to bring another program down. Some progress had been made.  Coaches and other SEC employees were put on notice that free lancing in the area of rules compliance would not be tolerated. There was a process put in place where if an employee of a member institution comes upon information that another member may have broken the rules, that information must go up the chain of command and eventually to the conference office.

Then that information will be assessed and, if warranted, passed on to the NCAA. Those who work for SEC schools may not have direct contact with the NCAA on such information. Employees of SEC schools may not leak information of this kind to the media. If so, they are in direct violation of conference policy.

And it could be that, until yesterday, the chain of command was followed in the Cameron Newton story. We know that Mississippi State acquired some information about the recruitment of Newton (the total accuracy of that information is still uncertain) and that it was passed along to the SEC which passed it along to the NCAA. The rest has been media speculation from unnamed sources.

But yesterday this story changed and took on a very ugly–and perhaps illegal–tone.

Somebody leaked some information that caused a story to be written that Newton faced multiple academic incidents while he was at Florida and was on the verge of expulsion before he left in 2009.  We don’t know if that story is true or not. There have been subsequent reports, from unnamed sources, that the story is not true.

But if the story is true, somebody just broke federal privacy laws in releasing that information. And if that person works for an SEC institution and if the leak ever gets traced back to them, I have a piece of advice: You better lawyer up, buddy, because your life is going to get really complicated. Federal judges don’t really care that much about college football. They do care about people violating federal law for their own amusement.

If the story is not true, and if it came from an employee of an SEC institution,  then the leak it represents the worst kind of behavior that cannot be tolerated. The person who gave misinformation to the media, knowing that it was misinformation, should be fired on the spot if they are ever caught.

And if the academic story about Newton is true, so what? It’s embarrassing to Newton and his family. He should be held accountable for his actions. But beyond that what’s the need for that information, if true, to be made public?  What purpose does it serve if it doesn’t impact this eligibility?  Why would you release that kind of information unless you wanted to embarrass the kid and perhaps negatively impact his ability to perform on the field?  Do you put that information out there because you don’t want the kid to win the Heisman Trophy? Do you want to him be embarrassed enough to turn pro and get out of the league? Did you watch him running up and down the field and enjoying his time at Auburn and think: “This guy isn’t who people think he is. It’s up to me to set the record straight?”

What is this, high school?

Despite various media reports we don’t know if coaches are actually involved in his sorry tale. But if they are, even if the information they leaked is true, the consequences should be fairly harsh. The fact is we may never know who all the leaks are and whether or not coaches have their finger prints on this. But a lot of people sure THINK coaches are involved in this.

In the meantime, it might be a good idea for the Presidents of  the SEC to meet with Commissioner Slive and empower him to do whatever he has to do to get a handle on this.

It puts the commissioner in a tough spot. If he steps out and says something publicly, it adds another layer to the story and keeps it alive for several more news cycles. And if he says something publicly, what exactly does he say and who exactly is he saying it TO?

But what we have now are charges, albeit unsubstantiated, that coaches in this league have violated federal privacy laws at worst and SEC policy at best. It’s probably a good time for everybody in the league to be reminded that they work for the institution and are obligated to follow the rules of the Southeastern Conference. They also need to be reminded that if they violate those policies, the result will not be pretty.

What’s going on now plays into every stereotype the rest of the country has about the SEC. Can you imagine something like this happening in the Big Ten or the Pac-10? Me neither.

It will be tricky, but it’s time for the commissioner to put his foot down again.

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Big Dawg

November 10th, 2010
1:42 pm

TrishaDishaWarEagle:

“Everybody does it”

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

TrishaDishaWarEagle

November 10th, 2010
1:42 pm

so basically as long as AU did not pay Cam, they are in the clear..and they obviously DID NOT pay Cam, according to Coach Chizik, the AD, director of recruiting, you name it.

Get ready for a beat down, dogs..he may throw 8 and run for 4 now that he is mad.

Mobile Dawg

November 10th, 2010
1:43 pm

That one gave me a belly laugh Bama dude….

MURPHY

November 10th, 2010
1:44 pm

TDWEagle,

I just hope you dont get egg on your face here on this blog.I said the same in defending AJ and had to really backtrack when it came out he had broke the rules.

Big Dawg

November 10th, 2010
1:45 pm

Maybe having a chip on their shoulder over the Cam Newton issue explains why MSU has had such a good season so far?

CFB is a game of motivation — no doubt about that.

BAMA dude

November 10th, 2010
1:47 pm

TrishaDishaWarEagle

November 10th, 2010
1:42 pm
so basically as long as AU did not pay Cam, they are in the clear..and they obviously DID NOT pay Cam, according to Coach Chizik, the AD, director of recruiting, you name it.

Man, you’re thick. THIS IS NOT THE CASE. If Cam or Cecil compromised Cam’s eligibility WITH OR WITHOUT anyone at Auburn knowing it then they will have to vacate every win that Cam participated in, meaning Auburn would be sitting at 0-10 right now.

TrishaDishaWarEagle

November 10th, 2010
1:47 pm

Murphy, my main concern is AU..AU is not responsible IF (big if) he cheated at UF..and it has no standing on his eligibility. AU is in the clear as long as they did not pay him..and it appears they are Heavily Adamant that they did NOT. I believe in Coach Chizik and AD Jacobs. I do not believe in second hand rumors from south mississippi..If you have proof of said allegations, I will look at it with an open mind.

Mobile Dawg

November 10th, 2010
1:48 pm

Trisha (if you would change your handle you would be taken a bit more serious), how many times has it been said, IF, Newtons “interests” are found to have been “represented” by someone, he becomes ineligible. Do you know what the penalty is for playing an “ineligible” player?

LSUFan

November 10th, 2010
1:48 pm

Trish,
When you make sense, please come back to the conversation. “Minor issues”…lol. You are laughable.

not aNewton fan

November 10th, 2010
1:49 pm

TDWEagle- are you going to come back on here and eat crow if it’s revealed that Newton did receive a payoff?

Bob

November 10th, 2010
1:50 pm

Yes, yes, that’s the answer. Punish those who expose the dirty laundry for all to see. Our Golden Child must be shielded from the harsh light of scrutiny.

If Cam didn’t want the attention, he should never have stepped onto the pitch. His actions are the cause, not those who think they should be more widely known rather than smothered in endless layers of “Let’s Make the SEC Look Pretty” bureaucratic bs.

TrishaDishaWarEagle

November 10th, 2010
1:50 pm

The way i read the rules, you would have to get something from or in benefit to the institution you play for. otherwise, I could mail $100 bills to every player on the Bama team and if they do not all get sent back immediatly, I can call ESPN and have their season voided.

TrishaDishaWarEagle

November 10th, 2010
1:50 pm

not a newton fan, IF…then yes, after a long cry, yes

Tech75

November 10th, 2010
1:51 pm

Repeat after me…

G** Damn boosters….

TrishaDishaWarEagle

November 10th, 2010
1:51 pm

Change my screen name from a guy called Dawg? were all having fun here ..

Mobile Dawg

November 10th, 2010
1:52 pm

Have a good day all…Go Dawgs….Watch out Sataday Trish, I’m gonna pee on your tree….UGA VIII.

dawgrific

November 10th, 2010
1:53 pm

Is anyone surprised that the Auburn Limo picked up folks with talent and no character/integrity whatsoever?! Seriously, I can’t believe that that whole Limo thing is allowed to go on, as it is an embarrassment to the recruiting process, college football, the SEC, and especially to anyone affilliated with Auburn in any way.

BAMA dude

November 10th, 2010
1:53 pm

TrishaDishaWarEagle

November 10th, 2010
1:50 pm
The way i read the rules, you would have to get something from or in benefit to the institution you play for. otherwise, I could mail $100 bills to every player on the Bama team and if they do not all get sent back immediatly, I can call ESPN and have their season voided.

Actually $1000 is where the NCAA draws the line for a “major” infraction in that case. Here we are talking about a possible agent-player relationship. The NCAA does not allow players to have agents. if Cecil authorized Rogers or anyone else to seek any kind of payment then Cam is ineligible whether anyone ponied up or not.

TrishaDishaWarEagle

November 10th, 2010
1:53 pm

LSU, as laughable as your defense was on october 23rd?

Big Dawg

November 10th, 2010
1:55 pm

@TrishaDishaWarEagle

No you couldn’t. There is no rule (to my knowledge) against players receiving anonymous free money in the mail. You might have a new scam there Trish. Maybe Auburn can use that when they are trying to dig themselves out of this hole over the next five or six years?

Coach Chizik: We can’t pay you, but wait till you experience the Auburn Mail Call young man. Just remember to keep it down home cuz.

Dr. Phil

November 10th, 2010
1:56 pm

If Newton’s dad laundered money through his church, or churches, the IRS will probably catch him. If Auburn paid, or if MS State offered to pay, or if UF paid, they should receive a very stiff penalty. I wonder what the timeline is for MS State. They clearly didn’t report the Kenny Rogers offer until after Newton signed at Auburn. The NCAA and the SEC are making too much money to enact any serious change that would affect their own pocketbooks. It also appears that any quack can go to espn or Fox sports and get almost anything in the media. The whole thing stinks for college football, the NCAA, the SEC, and the media outets who are feasting on the publicity.

TrishaDishaWarEagle

November 10th, 2010
1:58 pm

back to work.. Here is MY prediction..We will see how it plays out..

AU beats UGA

AU beats the pink elephants(with or without the tutu’s they were wearing in Baton rouge)

AU beats Florida in Atlanta

AU is YOUR 2010 SEC champion

AU beats Oregon in a shootout in January

Big Dawg

November 10th, 2010
2:01 pm

AU beats UGA

AU beats the pink elephants(with or without the tutu’s they were wearing in Baton rouge)

AU beats Florida in Atlanta

AU is YOUR 2010 SEC champion

AU beats Oregon in a shootout in January

AU gets stripped of 14 victories for the 2010 season and faces five year’s NCAA probation.

Waw Weagle!!!

Da Flood

November 10th, 2010
2:02 pm

You sound like a rabid Newton apologist. You were so eager to post this article, no one proofed it. My favorite segment: “Federal judges don’t really care that much about college football. They do care about people violating federal law for their own amusement.” Really? Now you’re a legal expert?

Not So Fast

November 10th, 2010
2:04 pm

Hey Trisha:

There’s a saying, “if you lay down with a dog, you get up with fleas”.

AU is responsible if they got in bed with these cheaters.

TrishaDishaWarEagle

November 10th, 2010
2:05 pm

one more item to show what internet rumors are worth…

There was story and multiple messages on Twitter earlier Wednesday that referenced an ESPN Dallas report that Newton was on the verge of being suspended, possibly within “three to four hours.” In fact, the ESPN reporter, Ian Fitzsimmons, says he was misquoted, that all he said was a story like this can change in three or four hours.

MURPHY

November 10th, 2010
2:07 pm

TDWEagle,

You forgot one:

AU forfiets all games for have an in-elible player-This could happen

Robbie E.

November 10th, 2010
2:10 pm

Ian Fitzsimmons?

what a HACK

MURPHY

November 10th, 2010
2:13 pm

TDWEagle,

Ever heard of guilty by association?

Reggie Bush

November 10th, 2010
2:14 pm

Don’t worry kid. You’ll get a big payday in the draft and the school is left 6to pays the penalty. At least you won’t have to give a Trophy back, cause your Heisman hopes are toast.

BAMA dude

November 10th, 2010
2:16 pm

RT@wareagleextra: Chizik asked question about Newton. Does not answer. “I’m going to entertain all the questions that have to do with the game Saturday.”

Yesterday Cheezit was talking about charcter assassination. Today he has no comment. I think we all know what “no comment” usually means in these situations…

Go Dawgs!

November 10th, 2010
2:21 pm

TrishaDishaWarEagle

You are the reason I read this blog, hilarious!

Driving Ms Dooley

November 10th, 2010
2:21 pm

Ok, I just talked to a guy in Knoxville, and he said that AJ Green wanted money from them and then he told them he wanted a Solid Gold Jetski and a hot tub full of caviar. Since he didn’t go to Tn, Georgia must have met his demands.

Does anybody have the number for ESPN? Does anybody know how to spell it?

Driving Ms Dooley

November 10th, 2010
2:24 pm

Trish,
did you hear the other story about Cam???

IN THREE OR FOUR HOURS…..Cam is going to ……DINNER!!!!!!!!

Get ESPN on the line quick!!!

TrishaDishaWarEagle

November 10th, 2010
2:25 pm

@Driving Ms Dooley

You could try calling 911, but I don’t know their number either.

BAMA dude

November 10th, 2010
2:26 pm

Driving Ms Dooley

November 10th, 2010
2:21 pm
Ok, I just talked to a guy in Knoxville, and he said that AJ Green wanted money from them and then he told them he wanted a Solid Gold Jetski and a hot tub full of caviar. Since he didn’t go to Tn, Georgia must have met his demands.

Is the FBI involved? ESPN doesn’t typically report garbage. There are all sorts of silly internet rumors that fly around- this Cam bit obviously has legs.

TrishaDishaWarEagle

November 10th, 2010
2:26 pm

That espn telephone number would be 1-800-WELVTCU

TrishaDishaWarEagle

November 10th, 2010
2:26 pm

ah the cowardly name stealer is back

Driving Ms Dooley

November 10th, 2010
2:27 pm

hey Not So Fast:

regarding your statement: There’s a saying, “if you lay down with a dog, you get up with fleas”.

No, it’s if you lay down your bet with The Dawgs, you end up losing your house.

MURPHY

November 10th, 2010
2:28 pm

Or the back desk line: 1-800-welvbsu

TrishaDishaWarEagle

November 10th, 2010
2:28 pm

John Bond is the one the FBI wanted to speak to, and he denied on Buck and Kincaid that he even SPOKE with Rogers, which would make all the allegations MOOT.

Tony....

November 10th, 2010
2:29 pm

Just in case you want to write a story on the Fulmer Cup… here is some info to get you started….

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The Fulmer Cup, named after Tennessee Volunteers head coach and his school of well-behaved student-athletes, is an invention of EDSBS.

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1st Georgia Bulldogs 20 — Fake IDs, drinking, disorderly conduct, obstruction, Domestic violence, Drunk with Fake ID, AD goes drinking, Refusing to give middle name, Underage DUI, Hit and Run

The Dawgs are #1 !!

TrishaDishaWarEagle

November 10th, 2010
2:29 pm

Ah, but you can’t bet on the Dawgs now. Seems they’re playing a team that’s just too dirty for Vegas to get involved with next Saturday.

Driving Ms Dooley

November 10th, 2010
2:30 pm

Ok Bama Dude, but I was on board when you reported the 3 or 4 hour thing and now I’m back to my earlier stance of “show me the money, or the paper trail, or the recording. Otherwise, change the channel, I wanna see what Cam is going to do to Georgia”

Bama Ramma

November 10th, 2010
2:30 pm

Auburn should declare newton ineligible, ASAP! Too much money flowing around that town. Bama shouldn’t have to play Auburn if they are cheating. Coach Saban would never put up with this–he’ll demand that auburn not play newton in the iron bowl!

BAMA dude

November 10th, 2010
2:31 pm

Driving Ms Dooley

November 10th, 2010
2:30 pm
Ok Bama Dude, but I was on board when you reported the 3 or 4 hour thing and now I’m back to my earlier stance of “show me the money, or the paper trail, or the recording. Otherwise, change the channel, I wanna see what Cam is going to do to Georgia”

Report? Me? More like repeat what I read. This channel ain’t changing any time soon. It will follow Auburn and be a lead story on the sports page until more facts are known or the season ends.

TrishaDishaWarEagle

November 10th, 2010
2:32 pm

Hasn’t Georgia already been embarrassed enough just for the fact that Cam Newton lived here?

TrishaDishaWarEagle

November 10th, 2010
2:34 pm

stop posting with my screen name, idiot

Jdawg

November 10th, 2010
2:37 pm

Au is now known as the NEW DIRTY BIRDS !

Driving Ms Dooley

November 10th, 2010
2:37 pm

Bama,

Report?? Me?? That’s the whole point. I read it first right here and it was your post. Don’t make me go back and look it up.

What about the Gold Jetski in the hot tub filled with caviar?? Anybody heard anything on that yet? Gotta be true. Might not have been AJ though. Could have been that little oriental dude from the movie The Hangover