Why Mark Richt should remain as Georgia’s head coach

 

College football is a game of emotion. It has to be played with emotion. To be enjoyed to its fullest, college football must be watched by fans with a certain level of healthy emotion. Coaches must be emotionally invested in what they do in order to do it well. Emotion is woven into the fabric of the sport.

But when one EVALUATES the game of football or a football program, which is going right now at the University of Georgia, it must be done without emotion. It must be done with a certain analytical detachment that sees exactly what the situation is and, if necessary, come up with the BEST possible option to fix it.

And when you take emotion out of the equation and focus only on the facts at hand, Mark Richt should remain as the head coach at Georgia for the 2011 season.

I’ve heard from a lot of you both on this blog and on my radio show. Losing to Florida broke your heart because you knew Georgia was good enough to win that game. I picked the Bulldogs because, quite honestly, I thought they had better players. Still do. But better players usually do not overcome four turnovers. And Florida deserved to win because Urban Meyer did a helluva job of getting his team ready to play after three straight losses.

So if Georgia had better players and Urban Meyer did such a great job of getting his team ready, how in the world, Barnhart, can you say that Mark Richt should be back in 2011?

Again, let’s take emotion out of this and look at the body of work and where things really stand in the program.

Richt is now 2-8 against Florida. I don’t have a counter to that. He hasn’t had consistent success against the Gators.

Richt won SEC championships in 2002 and 2005 and played for the title in 2003 against a team (LSU) than won the national championship. So this will be the fifth straight year that Georgia has not appeared in the SEC championship game. No counter argument there.

But let’s look at where the program has been and where we think it is headed.

In 2007 Georgia was as good as any team in the nation. If Tennessee doesn’t win in four overtimes against Kentucky in Lexington, Georgia plays LSU for the SEC championship in Atlanta. In my opinion Georgia wins that game and would have been in the mix for the national championship.

In 2008 Georgia was preseason No. 1. But before the season even began injuries negated the validity of that ranking. Still, Georgia won 10 football games that season. I’ve heard some people call that a bad season based on the preseason ranking. But if the preseason ranking is not accurate by the time the games begin, are you telling me that 10 wins is still a bad season?

In 2009 Georgia was a bad football team that was poorly coached. Too many penalties. Minus 16 in turnovers. Played well at the end of the year when the offensive line finally jelled. Still, not a good team.

In 2010 Georgia played the first four games without the best player on offense and in a brand new defensive scheme where the learning curve was steep. They lost on the road to No. 19 South Carolina, a team that beat Alabama on that same field on Oct. 9 and may play in the SEC championship game. They lost at home to No. 18 Arkansas (6-2), a team that will win nine or 10 games and has one of the best quarterbacks in college football. The Hogs’ only losses are to No. 2 (Auburn) and No. 6 (Alabama). Georgia lost on the road at No. 20 Mississippi State, which is 7-2 and whose only losses are to the No. 2 (Auburn) and No. 10 (LSU) teams in the country.

When A.J. Green did return Georgia won threee straight games against bad teams but by substantial margins. Then Georgia lost an overtime game against one of its biggest rivals in a game where they rallied from a 21-7 halftime deficit to force overtime. Aaron Murray, who is going to be a great quarterback for Georgia, threw a ball in overtime that he shouldn’t have thrown. No argument there. Young, talented quarterbacks make great plays and bad plays. Over time, the bad plays decrease. Murray will be no different.

So instead of its fourth straight win, Georgia absorbs a heartbreaking loss. So I ask you: If Georgia’s Blair Walsh kicks the winning field goal in overtime instead of Florida’s Chas Henry, are we even having this discussion today? If Georgia wins that game is everybody saying that Richt has things back on track and he’s good to go for the future?

If the answer to that question is yes, if the line between keeping a coach and letting him go is that fine, then you have to keep him.

Look, I’ve heard all the arguments. Richt is not (pick one): A) Tough enough; B) Mean enough; C) Savvy enough to compete with the Urban Meyers or the Nick Sabans of the world. On top of that you bring Gene Chizik to Auburn and Dan Mullen to Mississippi State and your argument is that the league is passing Georgia by.

But I would maintain that based on what we’ve seen the past four weeks things are trending upwards in the Georgia program. But I would also say that Richt needs to be prepared to put everything on the table in this offseason. Everybody’s job has to be reassessed. There needs to be more defensive talent across the board. Georgia’s backs are decent, but I don’t see a Marcus Lattimore or a Michael Dyer in the bunch. Richt needs to look at his strength and conditioning program to make sure it is the best it can be. He needs to look at his recruiting organization to make sure it is doing the job. Every coach on that staff needs to be prepared to explain how his area of responsibilty is going to get better. Changes will have to be made but the leadership at the top needs to stay in place.

I could be wrong. I often am. While there is much to be done to get Georgia football back to elite status in the SEC, I’m not convinced a change at the top is necessary. Please feel free to convince me otherwise.

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681 comments Add your comment

rusty

November 2nd, 2010
7:08 am

I think you are spot on Tony

Brown Dog

November 2nd, 2010
7:10 am

I’m stunned: Thoughtful, measured commentary first thing in the morning, and no verbal riots from UGA fans. What a relief.

geaux tigers

November 2nd, 2010
7:15 am

Tony, why did you leave out the 30+ arrests in the last 3 years. That has to also be evaluated. Also, why are you making excuses about injuries. Your argument says UGA is not deep enough to be a great team. Too many coulda woulda shouldas in this homer op-ed, Tony. Face it, Richt is not an elite SECOND coach.

whiner

November 2nd, 2010
7:16 am

Wow look at all of the excuses.

geaux tigers

November 2nd, 2010
7:17 am

SEC coach, blackberry defaulted to second.

Cakeman

November 2nd, 2010
7:18 am

I graduated from Georgia in 1962. I have seen the good, bad and ugly in Georgia football teams. Mark Richt is head and shoulders above the coaches we have had in the past. He has integrity, which is not something previous coaches have been overflowing with. All teams have their ups and downs. Let’s stick with a winner as a person and a a coach.

bo

November 2nd, 2010
7:19 am

you conveniently forgot all abouthe Colorado debacle (that AJ Green played in)

HairyDawg88

November 2nd, 2010
7:22 am

Very well said Tony…for some reason, the fans on here and on the DawgVent seem to think they know more. Winning the MNC involves a good amount of luck…no matter what anyone says. If not for Mount Cody last year vs. TN, Bama does not win it. I agree that UGA is on the upswing, and patience is needed by all. CMR will make more changes and we will better…you can count on it.

Bottom Line

November 2nd, 2010
7:24 am

Tony don’t make excuses for Richt. In his 10 years at UGA, he has made almost $30 million. I don’t think we’ve gotten our money’s worth.

John Galt

November 2nd, 2010
7:24 am

We are in a valley right now, but if you take a deep breathe and think, there is no way that we can improve ourselves in the HC position.

Astropig

November 2nd, 2010
7:25 am

Because…

Because ‘Bama fans wouldn’t accept this, Florida fans wouldn’t accept this,Auburn fans wouldn’t accept this and LSU fans wouldn’t accept this. Vandy fans would kill for this record and this talent.If Georgia wants to be an elite program,it must demand elite results. Falling back on the excuse that “If a field goal ,but for a penalty” is what 2nd tier teams lean on to explain average results.

Richt’s time at Georgia looks like a curve (beginning ,peak,decline). Before rock bottom is reached (and multi year chaos ensues) its time for a change.

BAMA dude

November 2nd, 2010
7:25 am

C) Savvy enough to compete with the Urban Meyers or the Nick Sabans of the world. On top of that you bring Gene Chizik CAM NEWTON to Auburn and Dan Mullen to Mississippi State and your argument is that the league is passing Georgia by.

fixed

Bill

November 2nd, 2010
7:26 am

No mention of the record against SEC teams over the past three years? What you see in the past four weeks makes you think things are trending upward? What have you seen beyond beating three woeful teams and looking sloppy against an average Florida team? Richt’s CEO approach is not working. The teams lack discipline and good fundamental technique. The assistant coaches would not be considered for hire by any other SEC school. Richt is a really nice guy but he can no longer compete at the highest level.

Roddy

November 2nd, 2010
7:27 am

I love the injury excuses Tony.

Did Alabama make excuses when Mark Ingram went down with an injury? No, they just plugged in the next guy who was nearly just as good. Depth is what it is. You can’t tell me after 10 years Georgia shouldn’t already be at least two deep at every position.

Joe D.

November 2nd, 2010
7:27 am

Looks just like Fulmer’s downfall at Tennessee, same type of numbers…the good and the bad, and getting worse. However, please note: beware of the unknown. Change is not always best for change sake. See Obama and Kiffin as examples.

Fat Eddy

November 2nd, 2010
7:28 am

Tony sounds like Mark Richt has had him over for a couple Thanksgiving dinners. Get off the homer bandwagon Tony.

I’m sure you were saying Ray Goff and Jim Donnan didn’t need to go either.

Caleb King Sucks.

November 2nd, 2010
7:29 am

Van Hallanger and the stupid finish the drill need to go. We need to get stronger and tougher up front on both sides of the ball. Rennie, Kade, Jeff and Geno all hurt terribly bad, and the critics need to consider this with the defense. It stars with VAN HALLANGER or however you spell his name.

Cobb Dawg

November 2nd, 2010
7:29 am

Joe D -

Why don’t you just stop acting like such a know it all for once? It get’s annoying enough dude.

Atticus

November 2nd, 2010
7:30 am

I can’t disagree with your thinking Tony. My concern is the program doesn’t seem to be moving in a positive direction. I think he waited 1 year too long to get rid of those clowns coaching defense and special teams. I think he does not have an elite coach (or he is not an elite offensive coach) on the offensive side of the ball and it gives us too many close games that end up going the other way. When you have a great defense you can afford to take a chance on a guy but we may not have agreat defense for two more years and so you are going to have to put teams away and intimidate them offensively like Florida has done in the past or like Aubrun is doing now. The playcalling at times during so many games was summed up in OT. You had the chance and you blew it on 1st and 2nd down with two horrible play calls. He’ll get another year and I agree everything should be on the table. But the biggest issue with one more year is this: He needs to win the SEC East next year or at least win 9-10 games and that probably won’t happen. To stop a dramatic slide you need dramatic improvement (to sell kids, parents and alumni) and that is doubtful the way we approach the game.

Me and You and a Dawg Named Belue

November 2nd, 2010
7:31 am

I agree with Tony. I was ready to walk off a bridge after the game Sat but this program is going to be okay. Do we really want to go back to the way things were in the Goff or Donnan years?. Heck, CMR has won better than Dooley did. Let’s be realistic here. The Dawgs will be back and sooner than many think.

Palm City Dawg

November 2nd, 2010
7:31 am

I agree Tony. Send Bo Bo back to coach quaterbacks and bring in a powerful OC that can mesh with Richt’s pro-style offense and you will see a big difference. We need an OC that is a big time gamer.

Tommy Dawg

November 2nd, 2010
7:31 am

Did you forget the Colorado loss?

That was with AJ and to the worst team in the Big XII. That has to be brought up in any job discussion for Richt.

Cobb Dawg

November 2nd, 2010
7:33 am

Me and You and a Dawg Named Belue -

All roses and flower baskets huh? What a pathetic excuse for a fan. Unless your donating money don’t even run your mouth.

GTDog

November 2nd, 2010
7:34 am

Bill? In which off-seasson did a UGA assistant NOT receive a job offer from a rival school?

Either pay attention to what is happening or stop making assinine comments….deal?

jellybeandawg

November 2nd, 2010
7:36 am

Tony writes “in 2007 Georgia was as good as any team in the nation”

If we were so “good” why could we not even win the SEC east?

Why did we come out unprepared, lethargic and unmotivated to play in our 2 losses against a 6-6 South Carolina team and Tennessee?

In 2008, what MAJOR did we have? Did we not have Satfford, Moreno, Green, AND Mohamed Massaquoi healthy ALL SEASON LONG??? What MAJOR injuries were there?

Atticus

November 2nd, 2010
7:38 am

Why is it that everyone thinks if Richt leaves that the program goes back to where it was under Goff and Donnan. Goff should’ve never gotten the job (too old to rehash) and Donnan hired the wrong DC and didn’t play the alumni game. The state of Georgia has doubled in size the last 20 years, the talent in the state is unbelievable now. The alumni base,the stadium, NFL players, the facilities are much stronger. Making excuses like that is pathetic. The right guy doesn’t have to take a back seat to anyone. If Urban is so good how come he lost 4 games 3 years ago and could lose 4 again now. He isn’t unbeatable. Same with Saban. You MAKE your own success.

Big D

November 2nd, 2010
7:38 am

Excuses!Bottom line if you have a 2-8 against your number one rival and pre-season number one lose three games—something is wrong somewhere. Last three years “going to fix it” so another year goes by while Auburn, Mississippi State and South Car. pass the DAWG Nation by—you get what you pay for.

Pete in Dacula

November 2nd, 2010
7:38 am

jellybeandawg -

I can’t stand you.

Charles

November 2nd, 2010
7:40 am

Hey Big D, nobody cares what you think.

Colorado

November 2nd, 2010
7:40 am

ha ha ha ha. This is classic.

AUin ATL

November 2nd, 2010
7:40 am

Hey BAMA dude, you can always make that argument with just about any top team. Tebow and Leak @ UF, Russell @ LSU, go back to T Martin at UT you may remember some guy named J Barker at that school south of B’ham. Thats just a few QBs in the SEC.

jellybeandawg

November 2nd, 2010
7:41 am

Of course Tony is going to leave out the MOUNTAIN of FACTS of why Richt should be let go. That is what Richt apologists do.

Tony only writes typical Mark Richt puff pieces.

Atticus

November 2nd, 2010
7:41 am

GTDOG, I think what he means is this: Florida’s coordinators both got head coaching jobs the last two years and have shown marked improvement. Georgia’s coordinators, one got fired and the other is not being considered and will not for a major college coaching job. That is what I think he meant. You are only as good as the men you hire to run your entire team.

1785 Dawg

November 2nd, 2010
7:42 am

Well said Tony. I encourage our fans to support Coach Richt and all of the players at all times. It is too easy to be negative, and to fault find. We expect a great football team every year, but we don’t always act like great fans, and great supporters of those that work so hard to win every Saturday. We need all of the fans to “man up” and support Coach Richt and every member of the team, and staff, through this rebuilding process. Go Dawgs!

ChuckDawg

November 2nd, 2010
7:44 am

Exactly right except for one thing. Richt doesn’t have the leadership skills to do what is needed, make the changes needed, and get the players that will win championships.
You are very right about the fact the SEC game has passed him by.

Herschel Talker

November 2nd, 2010
7:44 am

I agree with jellybeandawg. This is more silliness from the mainstream media who won’t call it like it is. This is the 3rd straight year of decline. 2008 wasn’t just disappointing, it was a disaster. As were the last year and this year. Let’s not be silly.

Ponnie

November 2nd, 2010
7:45 am

JELLYBEANDAWG, GO JUMP OFF A CLIFF MAN!

Otto Strahl

November 2nd, 2010
7:46 am

the fact is Richt is at best the 3rd best coach in his conference. Is keeping Richt safer than gambling on bringing in a new coach?

David

November 2nd, 2010
7:47 am

It’s better to fire a coach a year early, then a year late. UGA needs to fire Richt as soon as the season is over.

GaDawg

November 2nd, 2010
7:49 am

This was a close game and the score was much easier to digest than those of previous years, saying that I believe in CMR’s ability to elevated this team. We have one of the Best QB’s in the country an he’s only going to get better. I am a Dawg Fan and always will be, Good or Bad I bleed Red and Black an support this Team. GO DAWGS!!

warhorse

November 2nd, 2010
7:49 am

Richt deserves to stay for one more year. The typical UGA fan thinks Will Muschamp is the messiah, but look at his defense this year. Does not look much better than his career against the Gators which was 0-4.

Macdaddyhey

November 2nd, 2010
7:50 am

A situation like this is either partly sunny or partly cloudy. Lets see if as positive an article is written after a loss to Auburn and a potential loss to tech. You have to ask yourself “What have you done for me lately?” Arrest after arrest, a stale program and getting passed by the doormat of the SEC in Miss St. UGA is not an elite program and is not innovative enough on offense or defense. To run the offense that UGA runs you must have elite players. Richt had those at FSU and did with Donnan’s players at UGA. Either UGA must upgrade the coach or upgrade everything around him.

jellybeandawg

November 2nd, 2010
7:52 am

This is just another Barnhart puff piece. High on excuses, speculation, what if’s and devoid of any truths or facts.

Mtn Dawg

November 2nd, 2010
7:53 am

Good article Tony.

Golden Parachute

November 2nd, 2010
7:54 am

Otto Strahl

November 2nd, 2010
7:46 am

the fact is Richt is at best the 3rd best coach in his conference. Is keeping Richt safer than gambling on bringing in a new coach?

You meant to say that Richt is the third best Head Coach in the SEC East, didn’t you?

That makes sense. What you said does not.

Jeff

November 2nd, 2010
7:55 am

Thank you Tony. I have had issues in the past with some of your articles, but I have to admit, you do bring a breath of fresh air and a solid analysis that is spot on. The only thing I would add is Caoch Richt needs to put someone/something in place to address the trouble players are geting into. Not sure what that is but I am sure he can look to his peers at other places to see what they are doing.

jumbeauxtiger

November 2nd, 2010
7:56 am

Tony,

I just don’t see how Georgia can be 4-5 with their talent. They are stronger at every offensive position, the offensive line, receivers, backs and QB than LSU and we are 7-1, probably will be 7-2 next week, but still that is a much better season than what Georgia is having.

I have said numerous times on here that a head coach must have good assistants. I think the jury is still out on Grantham and since I don’t attend the Dawg games I really can’t comment on Bobo objectively. I know Bobo is criticized on here.

It seems to me Richt’s biggest faults are his hiring ability and his lack of discipline. Those are 2 big issues in my mind. Whether it’s enough to warrant a change now is debatable. I can understand the frustration the Dawg nation has.

The bottom line is that with Georgia’s talent, facilities and support there is no way this program should be 4-5. The loss to Colorado is inexcusable.

ATL is TigerTown

November 2nd, 2010
7:56 am

Anyone who thinks their college football team will be or should be on top every year is delusional. It’s just not that way. Even the so-called elite among SEC teams have their down years. It’s a fact of life and you just have to deal with it. Someone has to win and someone has to lose. If you can’t accept that sometimes you will be on the losing end, you’re in the wrong game. Check with UAT fans. They think it’s their God given right to win every game. When they don’t, they get depressed, they question their faith, they contemplate suicide, they blame their mothers, they drink themselves into oblivion and destroy their trailers. Investing your entire existance in a football team is just not worth it. Get some perspective. Face reality. Richt has been good for UGA and he probably will be again, but he’s not The Wizard of Freaking OZ.
War Eagle, ladies!

SatchelBuzz

November 2nd, 2010
7:57 am

Tony,…why don’t you comment on the classless action of ugag’s Todd Grantham,..you know,…the “choke” incident,..surely you’ve heard about. I would be curious as to your take on this subject,..and I’m not shocked that you have avoided it.

THWG!!

Go Tigers

November 2nd, 2010
7:58 am

Hey BAMA Dude your an idiot! Gene Chizik inherited a program with holes in it. He went out and got the coaches he wanted to be immediately competitive in the SEC. The team had a good year last year with shorthanded numbers and a mediocre QB. The coaches are excellent on game day and on recruting day and this has and will continue to pay off. Coach Chizik brought in the OC to attract a Cam Newton, but also to have one of the best offensive lines in the country, #1 or # 2 RB recruit in nation last year and develop the WR’s to another level in receiving and blocking downfield.
So your blurred view of Gene Chizik and having Cam Newton is ignorance speaking as you don’t know what you speak of!
As for UGAY they lack an identity on offense and most have continued to agree that OC is a problem area. They are not a committed to be a run the football team. Take AU, UAT, UT, LSWHO that have had strong running games and see they are committed to running the football. Florida, THUGA, and SC have not been a run first team primarily. CMR and his staff have not done a very good job of developing the talent they bring in to the next level. The best players they have recruited were good when they arrived.
Also,many of these OFF field issues have had to be character issues that every team has from time to time, but with the number of off field incidents UGAY has had makes you wonder whether when recruitng these players if they pay much attention to getting the right fit for the program.

Golden Parachute

November 2nd, 2010
7:58 am

@ATL is TigerTown

You are a blithering idiot.

swgaboy

November 2nd, 2010
7:58 am

Tony, usually I agree with you. This time I can only partially agree. Florida is a great program. 2-8 vs. the Gators isn’t good enough especially given that we should have won at least one or two of the games in 2002, 2003, and 2010 where we are probably the better team. But to me the most damning stat for Richt is the fact that in the last 5 years he’s lost to Kentucky (twice), Vandy, Miss. St., and is only 3-2 vs. South Carolina. Not to mention that he’s 2-3 vs. Tennessee…..with inexplicable losses in 2007 and 2009. We should have been 4-1 at least vs. the Vols in that time period. Our record vs. the SEC east just isn’t good enough. And its not like that’s been the stronger side of the conference in the last 5 years.

You hinted at it the real problem. Richt has been a great “face of the program.” But he’s responsible for having made some very poor decisions regarding his staff. Its probably the least respected staff as a whole that I can ever remember at UGA. I really thought Richt was going to put us over the hump in late 2006 when he made the decision to become more of a “CEO” type of head coach. But his staff wasn’t good enough for him to do that. I don’t know that he’ll ever do what is necessary to fix this problem. He should’ve removed all doubt about this LAST off season and finished the drill in replacing people like Van Halanger and Garner along with the others he let go.

jellybeandawg

November 2nd, 2010
8:00 am

Barnhart is your typical Mark Richt excuse artist.

He will conveniently leave out every truth and fact showing why Mark Richt should be let go in order to keep the Con rolling.

Phil

November 2nd, 2010
8:01 am

Yea, Tony leaves out the arrests records, which is more than the number of wins per season. Now we have the Defensive Coordinator giving the choke sign to the Florida kicker.

Where is the integrity of our program Tony??

On the field product sucks.

Off the field program sucks.

10 years of this crap is enough.

Boda Getta

November 2nd, 2010
8:02 am

Tony, I agree with you completely, Richt should be Georgia’s coach for another ten years.

Now when are you going to finally talk about Auburn?

Dog in TN

November 2nd, 2010
8:04 am

These are the times that try men’s souls. Hang in there, Coach Richt will bring this team back.

Ponnie

November 2nd, 2010
8:04 am

Jellybeandawg, nobody is listening to you, you moron.

Golden Parachute

November 2nd, 2010
8:04 am

Mark Richt knows that he has lost the support of the vast majority of the Georgia fan-base. He also knows that he has a contract and he is going to force the University to honor it. Richt is now to Georgia what Tuberville was to Auburn in 2007 — the walking dead.

Top Dawg

November 2nd, 2010
8:05 am

When AJ Green “did return,” WE LOST TO COLORADO. After that, we won three straight games.

Golden Parachute

November 2nd, 2010
8:06 am

Top Dawg

November 2nd, 2010
8:05 am
When AJ Green “did return,” WE LOST TO COLORADO. After that, we won three straight games.

… to cellar-dwelling bottom feeders.

There. Fixed that for ya!

Larry

November 2nd, 2010
8:06 am

WRONG, MR. BARNHART. When Mark Richt quit on his team with 50 seconds left in regulation, he lost the right to be this team’s coach. Any coach who doesn’t play to win is not worth having.

BOBO is a BOZO

November 2nd, 2010
8:07 am

One may wonder how you have your own show on CBS… a show that no one watches for a reason. Maybe you have not watched enough UGA football? It blows my mind that some Georgia fans are content with 7-5 seasons, but as a recent UGA grad, I think maybe we have different expectations than you older people. I should not be chastised for seeking greatness in a program.

SickandTired

November 2nd, 2010
8:08 am

That was a great and well thought out assessment Tony. There are other mitigating factors that you didn’t cover. A previous responder mentioned the arrests. That is of major concern especially when the perception with much of the Dawg Nation is that Mark Richt is a paragon of virtue and morals. Obviously the players that he’s recruited and nurtured haven’t responded to his steller public image. Something else must be in play here. The character of the player that getting recruited has to be looked at and obviously it isn’t taken into account often enough. There’s two more recruits coming in next season that were either kicked off or suspended for a significant period of time by the high school teams. They should fit right in. Dawg fans will say in both these instances that it wasn’t major violations and take a boys will be boys attitude. The night life in Athens is NOT going to help when you’ve got kids that are already prone to discipline issues. So here we go again. Richt had his best years with Donnans players PERIOD. It’s not something that’s up for debate. Donnan was much better at identifying talent than Richt. So if Richt wants to stay he should be foreced into dumping Rodney Garner. But history tells us that Rodney Garner is the one untouchable on the staff. Why is that? The reason is that Rodney knows where every recruiting skeleton is buried and carries around in his head enough information to bury the Georgia program so they are stuck with him. I’ve never heard anyone on any radio show, television show or broadcast of a game say what an innovative football mind that Mark Richt is carrying around in his head. You hear it about Saban, Meyer, Spurrier, Chizik, Harbaugh, Kelly and even Mullen. They take talent and do someting with it. Mark Richt has squandered on of the top three jobs in the SEC. That’s the bottom line. He’s a good man.

Saint Simons

November 2nd, 2010
8:08 am

(((( 34 – 31 ))))

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

BobDawg

November 2nd, 2010
8:08 am

…… I’m on both sides of the fence with this…just like when we are 4-0 when scoring first and 0-5 when the opponent scores first…. We should have had a killer drive against the Gaytors that was going to score in the first drive, 1st period….. UGA is not on probabtion, in a recruiting rich state and Greg McGarity will do an audit of the program with Mark and figure this out… WE have to finish strong this season and build momentum for next season and recruiting…..

BOBO is a BOZO

November 2nd, 2010
8:09 am

you are NOT Mr. college football. NO ONE has every called you that!

Phil

November 2nd, 2010
8:10 am

Hey Tony,

I hope you asked Finebaum what he thinks of Richt for your show tonight. I would rather hear somebody that can be be objective rather than your blind Homer loyalty to Richt.

Boise Dawg

November 2nd, 2010
8:10 am

Tony,

I agree that Mark Richt should not be fired this year. He has had enough success at Georgia (2 Sugar Bowl victories and 3 appearances in 10 years) is much more success than anyone else has had.

When Richt came in there were 3 very big expectations… that he would have us competing for SEC titles, turn the tide in the Florida series and dominate the Tech series. He accomplished 2 out of 3 pretty early….. but it has now been 5 years with no SEC title, the Florida series remains unchanged and he is 1-1 against Paul Johnson at Tech.

I guess I would pose a question though going foward. Is winning two SEC titles every 10 years good enough? And if so….. how confident are we that Richt can win two titles in the next 10 years?

I will say winning the Tech game last year was huge for Richt. Can you imagine the pressure he would be under right now after losing to Florida again if he was 0-2 against Johnson. I suspect beating Tech again this year will keep his seat slightly less hot next year, but lose the Tech game and he will have very little room for error next year. Fair or not that is the way I see it.

Golden Parachute

November 2nd, 2010
8:12 am

@BobDawg – Just wait ’til next year!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yop62wQH498

Tom, Resident Georgia Fan

November 2nd, 2010
8:12 am

Tony I agree 100%. Look where UT is due to their fan base’s demanding Fulmer’s head.

[...] morning, Tony Barnhart asks: So instead of its fourth straight win, Georgia absorbs a heartbreaking loss. So I ask you: If [...]

Hurt Kurbstreit

November 2nd, 2010
8:13 am

Tony, you are right on the mark. If you want to fire CMR you better have a good replacement ready to go. someone that is better that Richt. Right now, I don’t see a lot of Nick Sabans out there that would be available. You can’t fire CMR on the expectation that you can get Kirby Smart of Will Muschamp. They have never been a head coach and you don’t know how good they would be. Thus the program goes backwards for 3 – 4 years. See Un of TN for validation. I think if anything happens Bobo might be on the hot seat. But, the offense has looked good the last 4 games.

jasont13

November 2nd, 2010
8:13 am

My question to all the idiots on here. If you want Richt gone then who do you want to replace him? Do not give me Chris Peterson or the head coach at TCU. You all have your own opinion as to why you want Richt gone but do not look at things as a whole. Look what is going on at Tennessee, do you want that to happen at UGA next year? So once again who do you want?

BOBO is a BOZO

November 2nd, 2010
8:14 am

The difference between the elite programs and UGA… Florida and Bama see a sugar bowl consolation as a let down, while UGA fans see it as a national championship, and as job security for the next five years

Tony is a homer

November 2nd, 2010
8:14 am

Enough with the cherry picking of facts by a hopelessly biased columnist (has Tony ever picked Georgia is going to lose a game?) — the program is on a decline and while UGA is still a decent team it is far from being an elite team despite having very highly rated recruiting classes year after year. Few programs do less with more talent than UGA. Case in point — look at Va Tech or Boise State; how are they so good with 3 star recruits?

Barkin'Dog

November 2nd, 2010
8:14 am

ChuckDawg
… make the changes needed, and get the players that will win championships.

Isn’t that what every team in America is trying to do? Every year? Isn’t that what UGA tries to do? Every year? Richt made changes after last season and will do more this offseason. With new recruits and a seasoned QB, the next 2 seasons will be spectacular. Who, in their right mind, thought this would be a stellar season… with a new QB and defense? And how many of you naysayers thought the Dawgs would win another game after 4 losses? Well, they did. And they’ll win 3-4 more, if you’ll just sit back and give them a chance.

2 cents

November 2nd, 2010
8:15 am

Any Georgia fan that thinks Richt needs to go should take a history course on Georgia football in the years after Dooley and before Richt. Does the word Goff ring a bell? (or should that be Goof?)

BobDawg

November 2nd, 2010
8:15 am

Tony, I read the other day that the average lifespan of a Div.1 coach now is 7 years due to “moving on, being fired, buyouts, etc…. Richt is an year 10 and with our Win Now internet…. it will be interesting to see how he holds up to the constant pressure that is on him now….

MURPHY

November 2nd, 2010
8:16 am

After sitting in Jacksonville and watching the Dawgs coaching staff blow another game,I have finally given up on this team.It is sad that this team and coaching staff doesnt have the fire and killer instinct to put a lesser talented team away.I do believe the Dawgs are more talented that UF. Im not a fire Mark Richt person,because I just dont believe that will be the best for this program right now.I do however think McGarity needs to sit down with him and put an ultimadium in place and stress the importance of bringing this program to elite status.I for one will not ever accept another season like this,and dont expect any other Dawg fan to do the same.McGarity needs to turn Richt and this program inside out at the end of the season and make this a program all Dawg fans can be proud of for many years to come.

Spokesman for the SEC East

November 2nd, 2010
8:16 am

For once Tony the SEC East agrees with you. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE dont fire Mark Richt and while you are at it, extend Bobo and Grantham’s contract!

Boise Dawg

November 2nd, 2010
8:17 am

Excellent point Jasont13. I can say with just about 100% certainty that Chris Petersen would not come to Georgia.

SimpleDawg

November 2nd, 2010
8:17 am

People will always refer to the Dooley Years, when Georgia had some of it’s greatest successes even though Coach Dooley had several mediocre years mixed in with the good years, as the glory years – that level of success should not the standard for Georgia’s level of aspirations.

Well, times have changed. Due to the explosive growth throughout Georgia over the past 25 years, Georgia is a goldmine for college football talent. The state of Georgia produces more Division I football talent per capita than any other state in the US. Georgia ranks in the top 7 in sheer numbers of D I talent playing across the country. We should be an elite program in performance, both on and off the field. Georgia should be able to attract the top student athletes in Georgia and around the region, but <>

I like Coach Richt, but I think it’s time for a change. His message is stale, his methods are weak, and the current process is not producing results. Georgia’s coaches continue to make too many poor choices in choosing players and have failed too many times in not developing them beyond their initial level of achievement.

Even having said all of that, there is still way too much talent on this team to be playing as poorly as they have played for most of the season.

The bar has been raised.

This isn’t a limbo contest; it’s a high jump.

Somebody needs to be able to jump higher.

Rick

November 2nd, 2010
8:18 am

Win out and he should get another year. Anything less than that and he should be gone and we all know that winning out isn’t going to happen. All of the players should have enough experience by now not to be making stupid plays. UGA owes Mark Richt nothing, he has been paid well for his services.

merculf

November 2nd, 2010
8:19 am

“wait until you have a better replacement before you fire CMR” . You know like Auburn (9-0 and #2 right now) did when they let Tubby go……

BobDawg

November 2nd, 2010
8:19 am

‘Golden Parachute’…… Nice “tomorrow… LOL….

Golden Parachute

November 2nd, 2010
8:20 am

@Barkin’Dog

“Who, in their right mind, thought this would be a stellar season… with a new QB and defense?”

Maybe the same people who watched Bama win a National Championship with a new QB last year or who are watching Auburn in the hunt for one this year with a new QB. Every college football team has to replace players every year. Florida replaced far more talent than did Georgia after last season — but who won the game in Jacksonville… again?

Dooley the Vol

November 2nd, 2010
8:23 am

be careful what you wish for. Harbaugh aint coming, Peterson aint coming, Smart not ready, now you are at the 3rd choice. That is what the Vols faced, i think we got lucky w/ Dooley, but nothing good happens overnite.

COLLEGE football fan

November 2nd, 2010
8:23 am

I think you should quit fronting and change your name to MR. SEC FOOTBALL

jellybeandawg

November 2nd, 2010
8:23 am

More tired EXCUSES from a Richt apologist. Of course Tony fails mention any facts like:

- 30+ arrests over the last 3 seasons

- 13-12 (52%) Sec east record over the last 5 years. BARELY above .500

- 17-23 against ranked opponents.

Instead, in typical Mark Richt apologist con man fashion, he only lists excuses…. could’a, would’a,shoulda’s, and fake injurys from 2008 !

RxDawg

November 2nd, 2010
8:23 am

Nice article Tony. I agree 99%.

But 18 or 21 Tony.

18 OF THE LAST FREAKING 21 GAMES WE’VE PLAYED TONY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

WTF

Ohio Dawg

November 2nd, 2010
8:23 am

Tony points well taken, but I still come back to the same problems the last 3 years. When it has come to beating or even competing with elite programs we have done neither. In big games we just self destruct – timing of penalities,turnovers and blown assignments. Those are “coachable issues” that just keep happening over and over. My concern is if it hasn’t been corrected in the last 36 games when will it..next year is the year? Our national image is eroding….Who out there can name our last signature win? Need more time? .. Because of our coach’s status quo approach I just don’t know if enough “changes” will occur to right the ship.. I guess we will find out……

joe

November 2nd, 2010
8:24 am

I was going to try to have a rational discussion on here-then realized this is an AJC blogger board.
There are no rational discussions on this board. It tales about 4 blogs then falls into the gutter.
Time to go out and enjoy the day.

3rdN8

November 2nd, 2010
8:24 am

Mark Richt is facing the same dilemma that Bill Curry faced at Bama; on the whole he had a good resume’. At the end of the day, he could not beat AU. Curry was many of the things you want in a CFB coach, but…………………………

To my fellow Bama fans:

Give it up already. Last year, the whine was “Chizik had some success because of trick plays”. This year, it’s all because of Cam Newton. Everyone on the planet seems to recognize that Chizik has done a hell-of-a-job. He took over an AU program with more holes than the Titanic, and in two years (COUNT ‘EM – TWO) has Auburn poised for a National Championship run. And here’s a scoop…..it ain’t all Newton. That is a good football team. If Bama beats them on November 27 (and I think they can), it will be because they play a full sixty minutes…anything short of that and AU wins in Tuscaloosa.

Terry Wofford

November 2nd, 2010
8:24 am

Tennessee thought they were fixing things by getting rid of Fulmer, while wishing Mr. Dooley the best it doesn’t look good. Richt will get us a national championship.

Old Dawg

November 2nd, 2010
8:25 am

I just don’t see how Georgia can be 4-5 with their talent. They are stronger at every offensive position, the offensive line, receivers, backs and QB than LSU and we are 7-1, probably will be 7-2 next week, but still that is a much better season than what Georgia is having.

Exactly! There is not—and has not been—any real team spirit at UGA. It isn’t the quality of the talent. The talent is first-rate. But just look at the bench while the team is on the field. They’re all high-fiving the TV camera, chatting with one another, etc. It’s all me, me, me! It’s as if every player is undertaking his own tryout for the NFL. No one seems to care whether the team is winning. That’s coaching. It has very little to do with the talent. And these guys get into trouble off the field because they’re all individuals, not members of a team. They don’t give a second thought to the implications of their behavior for the team. That too is coaching.

Think about that in the off-season when you’re treating recruiting as though it’s an NFL venture. The coaches need to be thinking of how prospects will fit into a team, not how talented they are.

Ray Barnes

November 2nd, 2010
8:25 am

Vote for me today and I promise UGA will never lose another game.

Remember, I put the goober in Gubernatorial !

Waldy Butz

November 2nd, 2010
8:25 am

I’m an old DAWG but I couldn’t disagree more.

The proof is in the puddin Tony my boy and you are serving up
a lot of pie in the sky. The off field behavior is directly
related to the on field performance.

Here is you a case in point: Rambo is a perfect example of a
player chosen by Richt. Dooley wouldn’t tolerate the incessant
showboating and lack of playmaking. There is your difference
in the program now vs then.

I’ll bet the tackling skills of the 40’s 50’s and 60’s were
vastly superior to today as well. Is there a rule against the
teaching of these skills?

I have had enough of the excuses Tony.

Flo-Ri-Duh!

November 2nd, 2010
8:26 am

Geaux Tigers: Why complain about the arrests when your head coach at LSU just offered UGA’s worst offender (Mettinbubba) a scholarship and so did Alabama? If one SEC team kicks a player out of their program it does not bother others to pick them up and Urban Meyer will play ANYONE that will help him win. Even Chris “Time to Die” Rainey. Ift he NCAA wants to do something that makes common sense – I doubt that they will – then they should ban felons from going to other programs in the same conference after a school has kicked them out. The coaches won’t do this on their own so there needs to be NCAA enforcement. Instead of worrying about a player selling his own jersey to a non-agent they should be policing these real criminals.

Beast from the East

November 2nd, 2010
8:26 am

Tony,
Solid argument but you cleverly left out the off-field issues which are a major reason why many of the Dawg Nation are calling for Richt to be replaced.
Also, how can you continue to say UGA has a better team than UF? Did you not see the final score? That’s my proof that you are incorrect (yet again) with that assessment. The best team won. Just like UF losing to Bama, LSU and MSU. They were the better teams those days.

Message To

November 2nd, 2010
8:27 am

Why do I keep hearing TB & others saying that UGA has better players than UF this year? Quite frankly I don’t see it. I know its subjective, but I would garner to say that UF has just as many ” players/athlete’s ” as UGA, probably more. Right from the start of the game it was painfully obvious that Coach Meyer was again doing a superior job of having his team ready to play and outcoaching his competition. A healthy Demps, Rainey back in the fold, I see UF running the table and going back to ATL. And yes, I am a bulldog fan.

18 out of 21

November 2nd, 2010
8:27 am

Georgia’s problems start at the top. Richt doesn’t have the “it” factor to win in the SEC. Grantham is a punk doing what he did to the Florida punter. I guess Richt will talk to him and get this thing turned around….LOL It would not surprise me to see a player doing that, but coach who is suppose to lead by example—PLEASE. Ga. has a top recruiting class each year but can’t win or compete with the big boys. It has to be coaching and leadership. Georgia has neither.

Golden Parachute

November 2nd, 2010
8:27 am

Would replacing Coach Richt turn out more like what happened at Tennessee, or what happened at Auburn?

If you have a loser attitude, then take the loser option. Anything else would be illogical.

Red Panties

November 2nd, 2010
8:29 am

There is just something fundamently wrong Richt. He is a grown man and the head coach at the states largest school, but he can’t call his AD Greg, Richt calls him Mr. McGarity, PAleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeze. Now he must fire Grantham for cause, but won’t and people wonder why their is no discilplin on Georgia’s team.

Again, Bobby Bowden had it right, “Mark is just too nice a person to be a head coach.”
Georgia needs a hard a$$ coach that demands disciplin.

2008 injuries

November 2nd, 2010
8:29 am

Every team has injuries, but sometimes you have an abnormal amount, a once every 25 years amount.. There were something like 20 season ending injuries on that 08 team, and they were heavily concentrated on the offensive line and at linebacker. NO team could have had that many players go down and won an SEC championship. It ain’t happening. Tony had that one right.

Flo-Ri-Duh!

November 2nd, 2010
8:29 am

Remember to vote OUT KIng Roy Barnes. We don’t need another trial lawyer running our state – again. He was a disaster last time – running our state in to the ground during good times. He is not governor material.

Barkin'Dog

November 2nd, 2010
8:29 am

Golden Parachute – agreed about the QB. But these teams had established defenses too. This was a rebuilding year at UGA. All I’m saying is Richt deserves one more year to make it happen. I’m as disappointed as the next fan, but he doesn’t deserve to be fired after this season. I’m tired of hearing that nonsense. If next year turns out about the same as this and last year, then I too will vote for a change.

Flo-Ri-Duh!

November 2nd, 2010
8:31 am

Red panties – you have the tendencies of a pervert. I just though you should know.

Buckeye

November 2nd, 2010
8:32 am

Why should he stay?

So “Birmingham Bowl” Bruce can follow him to Birmingham!

HA!

Golden Parachute

November 2nd, 2010
8:33 am

@Barkin’Dog

I disagree. Next year, Mark Richt will still deserve “one more year”. Wait and see.

3rdN8

November 2nd, 2010
8:33 am

2008 injuries

You are correct. Bama had a similar season in 2005. Shula had a good team, but was simply snake bit by injuroes. Saban is dealing with many of those issues this year.

KeepMarkRicht!

November 2nd, 2010
8:34 am

As a fan of SEC football and more importantly a graduated of a conference opponent of Georgia’s, I want the Reverend Richt to stay. Now that I’ve taken my petty shot let me say this about Richt. He’s an outstanding recruiter and a great offensive mind. Georgia Football is caked with talent like no other team in college football today. A.J. Green plays like the next Michael Irvin. But his loyalty to his mediocre assistant coaches are going to cost him his job. When John Chavis left Tennessee, he should have jumped over the moon to hire him. And yes there were grumblings then about Georgia’s defensive coordinator and Richt ignored a chance to make a non sexy but hugely important change in his staff and as a result another season was lost to mediocre results. It’s been obvious for some time now that he needs to hire a new offensive coordinator. This is a move that needs to be made when the season is over. If not then next year will Richt’s last year as the coach of the Georgia Bulldogs.

jellybeandawg

November 2nd, 2010
8:34 am

Tony will conveniently leave off any and all facts in order to perpetrate his Mark Richt apologist agenda. Tony refuses to let the TRUTH & FACTS get in the way of his Con Man agenda.

Saint Mark

November 2nd, 2010
8:36 am

Richt is a complete fraud and a charlatan. Fire him and get him out of Athens now,

CF is Great!

November 2nd, 2010
8:37 am

Tony, no mention of the most embarrassing loss in recent Ga history to a terrible Colorado team…..with AJ Green! You make it sound like Ga had not lost a game with him in the lineup before the Fla game.

Gen Neyland

November 2nd, 2010
8:37 am

TB : As I read your words, it dawns on me you would make an excellent defense lawyer. You lay out the facts and no one can dispute the puddings proof on CMR’s successes. As far as addressing Tennessee’s win over Kentucky, circa 2007, as a what if moment that went against UGA, it would seem more appropriate to state for the record that had UGA beaten Tennessee that year, they would have played the Dome as an undefeated team…

Insofar as CMR’s purpose for taking over from Donnan, the goal was to beat the likes of Florida and Tennessee regularly and win SECC’s. In that regard, you win some, you lose some. Two of the ‘Win some’ catagory can be linked to Donnan to a degree. The ‘Lose some’ catagory is where you’ll find the questions on this matter…but I gotta ask, ” What does Mrs. CFB think..?”

Golden Parachute

November 2nd, 2010
8:37 am

@3rdN8

Bama had 2 injuries in 2005 that crippled them – Prothro and Closner. The other 50 or so injuries that every team has every year tend to go unnoticed. Which difference makers did Georgia lose in 2008 that are equivalent to the 2 major injuries that Bama sustained in 2005?

howard

November 2nd, 2010
8:38 am

He gets only one more year in my book and he has a number of areas where he needs to show improvement in his performance. #1…the conduct of his players OFF the field must improve remarkably. This is achieved by having clear and appropriate discipline for infractions and communicating these to players in no uncertain terms. Players must be accountable for their conduct. I expect UGA players to set an example for others to follow. #2…prepare to win ON the field. I use the word “prepare” on purpose because a team with all the talent of Georgia needs only to be properly prepared to achieve success. #3…improve game decision-making by coaching staff for which Richt is responsible. In other words, Richt, who is extremely well compensated, should be held accountable for results next year. He has been given the resources and the talent and the support…does HE have the will to win.

3rdN8

November 2nd, 2010
8:38 am

@ KeepMarkRicht!

Agree re: Chavis. Year in, and year out, there isn’t a better DC in football. I was really surprised AU didn’t make a play for him.

GT Crow

November 2nd, 2010
8:38 am

I’m sure if Mark Richt were to be fired at the end of this season, or next, every Tech fan in the world would be on cloud 9, b/c really… who would be his replacement – and do you honestly think whomever that person may be will do a better job? He’s done wonderful things for UGAg’s program and I, for one, would love for all the drooling pooches to fire a 10 win coach because of a couple seasons of mediocrity. UGA is not, and has never been the superpower they think they are/deserve to be. Welcome to reality – ain’t it a bitch?

Red Panties

November 2nd, 2010
8:39 am

Flo-Ri-Duh!

Since you are a bulldog, what is perverted about not wanting a coach that can’t beat the Gators?????

Roll Dawgs

November 2nd, 2010
8:39 am

Analyze This

November 2nd, 2010
8:39 am

Tony will conveniently leave off any and all facts in order to perpetrate his Mark Richt apologist agenda. Tony refuses to let the TRUTH & FACTS get in the way of his Con Man agenda.

A perfect analysis!

Red Panties

November 2nd, 2010
8:40 am

Perverted, I get it now, me being found in the AD lap—–I guess you are right.

joe

November 2nd, 2010
8:40 am

Yes Tony and if “if” was a “fifth” we’d all have a Merry Christmas…With UGA it’s always “if this had happened” or “if that had happened.” With all the 4 and 5 star talent in this state that UGA supposedly signs year after year, you’d think they’d have 2 NCs and 5 SEC titles over the past 10 years. They are constantly failing to meet expectations. Every summer, we have to sit through blind homer UGA fans who lay their claims based on “Phil Steele says we have the 2nd best offense in the country. Phil Steel has picked us 3rd in the nation for 2010.” Every year these claims are made and every year they fall on their face…and end up in Shreveport or as in the case this year, no bowl at all.

SadDawg

November 2nd, 2010
8:41 am

What about the Colorado game, Tony, which was AJ’s first game back?

As for “trending up” comment, we beat UT, Vandy, and UK, then lost to UF. So because we stopped our 4-game losing streak with patsies, UGA is “trending up?” You really look at a small sample to determine which way a team is trending.

Oklahoma and UGA had identical, pitiful 8-5 records last season. Their records so far this season? OK is 71. UGA is 4-5. Now, Oklahoma is “trending up” , after beating Colorado 43-10, by the way.

4-5 is not trending up.

I would never be for firing Richt. I was hoping he would admit to himself that he has let UGA slip from prominence to being never mentioned on ESPN, unless an arrest occurs. It’s depressiing to see this, but I’ll pull for UGA, and Richt, as I always do, and I guess go down with the ship.

3rdN8

November 2nd, 2010
8:42 am

@ Golden Parachute

I don’t know who Closner is. I do know by season’s end that in addition to Prothro (see AJ Greene), Bama had lost three starters on the OL, and was starting a third string RB. Players had to take a number to see a trainer.

Spokesman for the SEC East

November 2nd, 2010
8:42 am

Tony if you actually saw the game, the Florida Offensive and Defensive lines were noticably bigger than UGA. It is one of two things, recruiting or Strength and Conditioning. One of those two clowns needs to go.

bdawg

November 2nd, 2010
8:42 am

Tony,

My concern with coach Richt is the problems start with him. We can change coaches, S&C and whatever else he wants, but until he changes, this will not be fixed. I have compared him to Wade Phillips, players coach, relaxed enviroment just show up and do your job. He is doing a couple of things this year that speak volumes for his coaching style. One is a former player telling the team before the game what it means to be Georgia Bulldog. Isn’t that the coaches job? Tell the players whats expected and then demand it on the field. The other is no shaving for turnovers. If UGA wins turnover battle they don’t have to shave that week. These are gimmicks. How bout coaching your players what to do, demand that they do it, or put the next guy in, period.

The last thing that shows me he has to change is the off field problems showing up on the field. An example, is in his radio show he says they coach to cover the ball in traffic and try and scoop it in space. For whatever reason players didn’t listen in the game when he told them don’t get arrested too many did what they wanted. He has to get the players attention some how. If they won’t, play the backup. I would rather play all freshman and lose but have a group of guys in the future like Murray, who understand what it means to a Georgia Bulldog than a bunch of guys who want to do it their way. If he stays as coach, change has to start with Mark Richt. If not he will not be the coach in 2011 and we will have another year invested in failure.

Saint Mark

November 2nd, 2010
8:42 am

I’ve never understood how anyone – even an alumnus – could support and take pride in UGA’s football team. When you look at their history for the past forty years, how can anyone ignore Jan Kemp and the “remedial studies” scam, the Jim Harrick fiasco, the DUIs in the athletic office, the DUIs and other arrests of players, the #1 party school tag (i.e., the most drunk students), the suspensions and outright dismissals, the Fulmer Cup, and on and on?

As disgraceful and humiliating as it is, I don’t see many alums and fans demanding an end to this sordid activity. It sets UGA apart as the kind of school most people abhor, and it’s become an embarrassment to the whole state of Georgia.

Will it never end? Apparently not while Mark Richt is at UGA. Richt is perhaps the biggest hypocrite in the United States. But even with all the cheating and lawlessness that he ignores, he still can’t win the SEC.

So you’re paying him to be BCS champions, but he can’t even win his SEC division. So why do you pay him millions of dollars a year?

Golden Parachute

November 2nd, 2010
8:42 am

@GT Crow

Well… If Tech fans want him to stay, then I suppose there’s no point in discussing the matter any further. Tech fans, after all, know just what it takes to field a winning football program.

Charlie Bama

November 2nd, 2010
8:42 am

I agree with your line of thinking, Tony. Tolerance is a virtue in this case. Although I will say that the often iffy relationship between fans and ‘the head coach’ brings interesting dynamics with it. Namely, the relationship grows stale: The coach gets tired of the fans and their demands, and the fans get tired of the coach, and his tin ear to their demands. Tuberville-Auburn is a good example. This pattern seems to surface after about nine years for successful coaches –about six years for unsuccessful or middlin’ coaches. If CMR eventually goes, it will be because the relationship got old, not because he’s not a winner (probably not, anyway).

crossdawg

November 2nd, 2010
8:43 am

One more year is MAX if things don’t get a lot better. Booboo needs to go now!

Harvey

November 2nd, 2010
8:45 am

The entire coaching staff should be fired. Let’s start over next year with coaches who know what they’re doing AND have some personal integrity.

Excuses

November 2nd, 2010
8:45 am

mark richt and bobby cox should thank god everyday that they live in a media market where the ‘journalists’ will make excuses for their under achievement. and, the lemmings (fans) will follow.

jellybeandawg

November 2nd, 2010
8:46 am

Mr. Con Man

with Tony Barnhart

SadDawg

November 2nd, 2010
8:47 am

13-11. That’s UGA’s record the past 24 games. 4-5 in the past nine games. Oh yeah, that’s an upward trend!

Blue

November 2nd, 2010
8:47 am

HairyDawg; I am NOT a Bama fan…in fact I hate them. But tell me, please…how in the world does Mt Cody making two HUGE blocks on kicks because he destroyed the blockers in front of him equal “luck”??? I’m not saying there is not luck involved, but you sure used a p_ss-poor example to try to illustrate your point. And have you even noticed that teams who are better coached seem to get ‘luckier’?

Observe & Report

November 2nd, 2010
8:47 am

It’s funny to hear all of the comments that UGA should have beat UF this year because they had one of their worst teams in years. Well, guess what? So does UGA. You all ingore the fact that UGA is not very good this year. Add 4 turnovers to that and you get beat period!

Gen Neyland

November 2nd, 2010
8:47 am

Barkin’Dog : Talk about rebuilding, I would have loved to have had 80% of your 2010 roster as a rebuilding platform up Atop Rocky…From my seat in the nose bleed section with a major in What If’s and a minor in Hindsight, CMR maybe should have introduced Murray to the SEC last year, got the lumps out of the way and forged ahead in 2010.

Ole Dawg

November 2nd, 2010
8:48 am

Where do you people get the idea we have such great talent? People keep saying that, but I don’t get it. I sure don’t agree with it. FL, ALA, AU, LSU all have much better talent than us and always have. Our previous success was due to heart, emotion, and tenacity, and we don’t have that anymore. Like a golfer friend of mine tole me, “if you can putt, you can do it with a pine limb”. If you are real football player, it doesn’t matter who the coach is. With the exception of Houston, Dent, Trint, Jones, AJ, and that little qb, we have no players. That’s the problem.

SadDawg

November 2nd, 2010
8:49 am

So, Tony, if Richt lost those first 4 games because AJ was out, will 0-12 be acceptable next season when AJ is playing on Sundays?

3rdN8

November 2nd, 2010
8:49 am

Mark Richt is facing many of the issues that his mentor faced at FSU. But Richt doesn’t have the capital of claiming he invented football at UGA. I don’t see him surviving this one….unless…UGA beats AU next week.

jellybeandawg

November 2nd, 2010
8:49 am

Mr Con-Man,

How much is Richt paying you to write this drivel?

pcidoc

November 2nd, 2010
8:49 am

Couldn’t agree more, Tony. CMR will get it turned around. He knows things can’t stay status quo. He’s won championshis before (SEC @ UGA and national championships @ FSU). I would be surprised if CMR doesn’t have us back in Atlanta in the next 3 years. Replacing a hedcoach is risky not only in wins/losses but recruiting , too. You can point to Chisick(sp?) @ Auburn, but if he hadn’t lucked into Cam Newton, a once in a decade type plyer, Auburn would have lost several games.

Spokesman for the SEC East

November 2nd, 2010
8:50 am

3rdN8, but UGA did invent football at least that is what there fans think.

Jim

November 2nd, 2010
8:50 am

geaux tigers – it is NOT 30 arrests at UGA, it is 30 arrests in 5 years under Urban at UFL you idiot.

Mike

November 2nd, 2010
8:50 am

I agree … as disturbed and drained I am from the Florida loss, I completely agree. However, ‘11 has to be the bottom line year. And the bottom line must be in the fight if not winning the east, and a win or else against Florida … i don’t care if we are undefeated going to Jacksonville. If we lose that game, that’s it. Bottom line. Nothing else matters. That game has cost us a lot … even a national championship in ‘02. I’m tired of getting beat by the Gators. If he can’t get it done, Gruden can.

Spokesman for the SEC East

November 2nd, 2010
8:51 am

pcidoc, that a way boy, we dont want him fired.

SadDawg

November 2nd, 2010
8:52 am

I think Joe D is right on the money . . . . .dude!

Curious George

November 2nd, 2010
8:52 am

If Coach Richt doesn’t stay at Georgia, where will all the semi-literate, uncouth THUGZ from broken ghetto homes he recruits, enables, empowers and gives free room, board & “education” to go to school to eventually get those Affirmative-Action jobs for which they aren’t even qualified?

jellybeandawg

November 2nd, 2010
8:52 am

Exactly SadDawg. When AJ is gone in 2011, what convenient excuse will Mr. Con Man use then? More fake injuries, mixed in with his usual coulda, woulda, shouldas and a little fantasy to go along with it.

GatorBait

November 2nd, 2010
8:52 am

This what the Orlando sports writer thinks about the game. I particularly like the last sentence, it just oh so true.

Saturday’s win gave the Gators reason to be optimistic about their chances of getting to Atlanta for the SEC championship game. Florida had a season-high 450 yards on offense. The defense, which had regressed in the past three games, got four turnovers.
Even punter-turned-kicker Chas Henry went from scapegoat to hero. Filling in for injured K Caleb Sturgis since the beginning of the month, Henry had missed his past four attempts. He made two against the Bulldogs, including the winner from 37 yards out.

Things are better, but the offensive struggles surely are not cured after one win over a mediocre opponent.

Golden Parachute

November 2nd, 2010
8:53 am

Just let him stay until he’s ready to retire. It can’t be that much longer.

But remember this: The perceived value of the Head Coaching position at UGA has been declining with each year that goes by. Your odds for hiring a winner as a replacement will similarly decline with each passing year of mediocrity. You will replace him eventually — whether you want to, or not.

Chatham Dog

November 2nd, 2010
8:53 am

I’d hate to admit it, but if I were AJ Green, I’d jump to the NFL after this season. OC Bobo
didn’t allow our QB to throw to AJ. He only had 2 catches going into the 4th quarter.

Doesn’t make any sense to me. Not throwing to one of the premier ends in the country..

Keeep Richt, but Bobo must go.

Jim

November 2nd, 2010
8:53 am

Dear UGA Fans…
Are you curious why your football program is trending downward? Are you curious why your football program is now a middle of the pack SEC program? Please see the above blog for your answer.
I hope Richt stays for another 20 years….he is not a threat and neither is UGA.

3rdN8

November 2nd, 2010
8:54 am

@ Gen Neyland

I know it’s a tough time to be a Vol fan, and that silver lining is hard to spot sometimes. But I think Dooley has his overmatched kids playing hard every week. There is just no wiggle room in the SEC. You have to bring your game for four quarters every week.

I’ve found myself pulling for UT, and for a hard core Bama fan that is a huge change.

RxDawg

November 2nd, 2010
8:55 am

Some points I’ve read…

Losing to Colorado was inexcusable. PERIOD. That and 2-8 against UF could be the straw that breaks the cammels back.

As soon as I see the name “Jan Kemp” I skip to the next post. Tech fans… what else is there to say about them?

I’m not a fire Richt guy, I’m not calling for his head. But I’m not fighting for him anymore either. Too much going against him now. The program has slid into years of mediocrity and that’s just not acceptable. For whatever reason, the kids we have suiting up just don’t respect the program and their head coach like they should. If it was my call, he get’s one more year. And the team knows about it too.

DawgByte

November 2nd, 2010
8:55 am

Tony -

I agree with your commentary and assessment. McGarity needs to make it clear to Richt that he has to get a command of this program and his players. Discipline is a huge issue with this team and Richt needs to put a stake in the ground. Lastly, McGarity needs to convey to Richt that significant progress needs to be made with regard to wins in 2011.

BirdDog

November 2nd, 2010
8:56 am

Saint Mark, as you call yourself. Shut your mouth and get to calculus class! You are a typical nerd that is obsessed with everything UGA. Only Tech nerds bring up Jan Kemp, which was many years ago. GT has had an academic scandal more recent than that so drop it already. And as for the comment about UGA embarrassing the entire state of Georgia. Really? Are you serious? I hate to disappoint you but the majority of the population is not obsessed over UGA football like you nerds at Tech are!

kl

November 2nd, 2010
8:57 am

LOLLLLLLL; no mention of “look at the OC”. more political cover for bobo

Snake Doc

November 2nd, 2010
8:57 am

Barnhart you’re a homer! MR should go, plain and simple.

Things have trended down for this team over the last 3 years and are getting worse. Overall record this year is 4-5, SEC record is 3-4. He’s outcoached by Saban, Spurrier and Saban, possibly Petrino and Dan Mullen for sure.

MR has not won a National Championship in 10 years while LSU has won 2, Florida has won 2 and Alabama has won 1. Les freaking Miles has won an national Championship.

How many National Titles has your hero MR brought to UGA? ZERO!!!!!!

Oh yeah, sorry MR and UGA won the Fulmer cup this year!

Stupid Homers. Did you all grow up in the age where everyone gets a trophy for trying? That aint’t the real world. You’re paid the big bucks to win championships and that ain’t happening with MR at the helm!

[...] Tony Barnhart explains why Mark Richt should remain Georgia’s football coach. (AJC) [...]

B Chapdawg

November 2nd, 2010
8:58 am

I have been a DAWG fan since the day I was born. I bleed red and black. I will be a DAWG fan until the day I die… I know how important wins and losses are to a football program, but that really doesn’t matter to me in the long run.Wins are great and I love it when we win but when we lose I still love the Dawgs. Spend a nice fall day in Athens before a game and you’ll know what I mean….I am in no position to judge whether someone should or should not lose their job. So, no matter what.. GLORY GLORY TO OLD GEORGIA!!!!!! Fair weather fans make me sad.

DA

November 2nd, 2010
8:59 am

I would call 2008 a BAD season even though we won 10 games. If you look at the schedule that year, we lost our three biggest games (Alabama, Florida and GT) and two of them we got blown out in (Alabama and Florida). I understand that we beat Auburn, LSU and Tennessee that year, but Auburn only won 5 games that year and didn’t go to a bowl game and we only beat them by one score (they even had a chance to win at the end of the game). LSU, yes we beat them badly (thanks to two interception returns for TDs), but they lost 5 games that year, and had Jarrett Lee at QB. Tennessee was playing with a lame-duck head coach in 2008. Arizona State was supposed to be our big out of conference game (besides Tech), but they wound up losing to UNLV that year the week before they played Georgia.

I would have looked at 2008 as somewhat of a good season if Georgia had managed to beat Tech (even getting blown out by Florida and Bama), but we lost to them and gave up 45 points. Losing to Florida and Tech in the same season, in my book, does not equate to a success, even if we wound up 11-2 (unless we won the SEC perhaps, but still, you can’t lose to those two teams and feel real good about it). Throw in a blow out loss that sparked Bama’s rise to dominance in the SEC, then we didn’t beat anyone of merit. Really, when you look at the wins that season, who did we beat? Michigan St. in the Capital One Bowl and a 5 loss LSU team? WOW! What a great season! (That’s sarcasm BTW).

Gen Neyland

November 2nd, 2010
9:00 am

3rdN8 : So I may not have a problem on those occassions when I’ve pulled for Bama..!?! Talk about a Clockwork Orange, feeling normal type senerio. Thx…

Michael in Decatur

November 2nd, 2010
9:00 am

Richt deserves next year, with its 8 home games and road games against Ole Miss, UT, Vandy & UF, That’s the kind of schedule Auburn gets every other year……

Big Dawg Daddy

November 2nd, 2010
9:01 am

Changing coaches always works. Just ask Tennessee.

Alphare

November 2nd, 2010
9:02 am

You UGA fans keep blaming the head coach, the top. But the real top is the fan base. Let’s take a look at the fans:

1. Most fans are republicans while most players are democrats – a house divided by the fans
2. Most fans will vote Nathan “the most corrupt” Deal as governor – fans horrendous to the players

Tell me how can the players go out there to win games for the fans if you have such a fan base?

Today is election day, have to throw it out there .

LawDawg

November 2nd, 2010
9:02 am

No excuse for UGA to not have D-1 caliber running backs. I can eat a whole hot dog between handoff and the moment the rb hits what used to be a hole at the LOS.

No excuse for UGA to not have D-1 caliber safeties. I can eat 2 whole hot dogs between the time an opposing receiver catches the ball and the time a UGA safety comes into the picture.

No excuse for UGA to not throw the ball to a TE every other down. We have 3 of the best in the conference. I can eat 14 hot dogs before we throw anything towards a TE (caveat: I liked how we used Charles in the UF game).

DA

November 2nd, 2010
9:02 am

BTW, I’m not saying one way or another what I think on the Richt situation. I think he’ll get another year, deservedly so when you look at his body of work, but I’ll support the Dawgs no matter the decision they make. I like Mark Richt and I hope that we can have the level of success every fan wants with him as our coach. I just simply wanted to point out why I don’t necessarily see 10-3 in 2008 a successful season.

UGA VII

November 2nd, 2010
9:03 am

When UGA VIII croaks when Idaho State wins by 30 things will change.

Chris

November 2nd, 2010
9:03 am

I think your general point is misguided. You are ignoring the cumulative effect of the last 5 years, 4 of which have been incredibly disappointing. Moreover 3 of those years – 2006, 2008, and 2010 – have been abject failures. Terrible on every level.

Finally, numbers speak for themselves. Mark Richt is 2-8 against Florida – easily Georgia’s most important rival if championships are the goal. Coach Richt is barely .500 over the last 2 years.

He gets another year, but when he again fails in 2011, UGA’s football program will have been setbakc 4-5 years.

Palladin

November 2nd, 2010
9:04 am

@Gen Neyland

Bama fans have always had respect for the Volunteer football program. It was only Phil Fulmer that we disrespected.

DawgFan

November 2nd, 2010
9:06 am

Richt may the be 3rd or 10th best coach in the SEC. I don’t personally believe that but most of you do. But here is my question for you geniuses out there: Who would you get to replace Mark Richt? After year of Goff and Donnan, Mark Richt was the savior of our program and he still is. I do think there needs to be a change at OC because Mike Bobo is not cutting it. He may be a great QB coach but no an OC.

One more thing: While you may have Juniors and Seniors on the field on defense they are all true freshmen in the scheme of things because of the change. Our defense is getting better every week and they are reason that we were able to come back in that game against Florida.

Put away your anger ladies and gents because Mark will make the changes that will make this program great again.

SadDawg

November 2nd, 2010
9:06 am

“And if so….. how confident are we that Richt can win two titles in the next 10 years?”
******************************
Very confident, Boise Dawg, that is if Saban, Myer, Mullen, Chizik, and Petrino all leave the SEC.

Hurt Kurbstreit, you mean like Chizik took Auburn “back 3 or 4 years?” He’s unbeaten in his 2nd season.

Gen Neyland

November 2nd, 2010
9:06 am

Big Dawg Daddy : Why must you show us that you don’t understand the ongoings at Tennessee..? All you need to do is point out how successful Head Coaching changes can be by addressing CMR’s early years after taking over for Donnan.

dawgfan13

November 2nd, 2010
9:06 am

This is a bunch of crap by you Tony! All of the things you talked about as far as problems with this program have existed for 3 straight years and it is going down hill. So while I am a Georgia fan, I have heard this all before and I am sure I will continue to listen. This program will make a change when the major alums get tired of Florida kicking our a**** and they get tired of the Miss St and Colorado stop kicking our buts. So we will continue to rehash why this program is a failure for years to come they will get tired in a few years because nuthing is going to change with this program.

dp

November 2nd, 2010
9:08 am

TB…..you hit the nail on the head with what Richt needs to do, any good manager worth his salt, will reevaluate his processes and his finished product at least once every year. He’ll take his processes and break them down to the most elementary levels, starting with recruiting (Donnan was able to get most of the best players from Georgia year in and year out, Richt appears still in love with Florida High Schoolers over Georgia’s.). Coaching, coaching is a form of teaching, and many times it appears that the players (students) either haven’t learned or are unable to grasp the techniques being taught, either way it becomes a Coaching Issue. Strength & Conditioning is a factor that changes games, both early in the season and late in the season, to many times it looks as if UGA players are being pushed around because their opponets appear bigger and stronger. This is most evident when lineman are pushed backward (defensive lineman) or are being throw aside (offensive lineman) by other teams lines. And look at what other programs are doing to win and succeed. Ask other coaches what they do to maintain discipline and keep players out of trouble, be willing to try new ideas on and off the field.

Deja Vu

November 2nd, 2010
9:09 am

This time last year, everyone said that CMR deserved “one more year” to turn things around.

What will we all be saying next year?

Hmmm…

Sure, but...

November 2nd, 2010
9:09 am

I agree to a point about CMR, but at some point, the team has to have an identity. Are we a running team, a passing team or our we looking for balance on offense. It seems that the team doesn’t know until after the game has started. It looks like the coaches game plan is decided after kick-off instead of on Sunday afternoon. Adjustments should be used when the opposition is forced to change their style of play, not the other way around. Another issue is judging talent. Go back to Knowshon. Why was he redshirted again? How about Arron Murray? I’m fairly certain that he couldn’t have been worse than Joe Cox. Let him struggle like Stafford and you start this year with some experience. I’m still not down on the Dawgs and I believe that Richt has earned another year, unless the bottom truly falls out and the team loses it’s last 3. If they lose 2 out of 3, then Bobo becomes this years’ scapegoat and Richt moves onto the hot seat. Bobo could keep his job by winning 2 out of 3, but I wouldn’t be shocked to see him moved to QB coach only next season. Any way you look at, I’m disappointed in the play of the Dawgs, but I’m still a fan and always will root for them. Heading up this Saturday to see the Dawgs look like they should. After that, who knows?

3rdN8

November 2nd, 2010
9:10 am

What-If scenario.

What if UGA beats AU next week? Does this change the perception of Mark Richt? Does it change the decision on whether to keep him or not?

Bama faced a similar dilemma with Mike Dubose in 1999. Bama had played pooly most of the season, and had lost to LaTech in mid-September. Word was, Mal Moore was set to fire Dubose, then Bama beats Florida on overtime. The plug was not pulled. Bama went on to win the SEC (but lost to the Vols), and beat Florida again in the SECCG.

Dubose stayed. The 2000 season was a disaster, and set in motion a series of events that crippled the football program for a decade.

I’m not saying that keeping Richt will necessarily follow that course. I am saying that a coach shouldn’t be evaluated on the result of a game(s), but on his whole body of work. Richt’s body of work (at least the last five seasons) has been mediocre at best. That to me is the only point in discussion.

winterDawg

November 2nd, 2010
9:11 am

It is true that if you look at last year and this year there is an upswing. Hopefully that will continue. Remember, the Bear learned from his down years and got much better as a result. Richt deserves the chance.

phil g

November 2nd, 2010
9:12 am

I’m a Tennessee fan and hope Georgia keeps Richt for many years as his continued under performance will help us recruit Georgia’s top players and get us back on top sooner.

And for those Georgia fans who I’ve heard claim on sports radio that Tennessee fans would not have fired Fulmer in hind site, I say you don’t know Tennessee fans. There are some Fulmer loyalists no doubt, but many more believe our problems are due to Fulmer not getting fired EARLIER.

Keep Richt and enjoy mediocraty Bulldog nation.

Evansdawg

November 2nd, 2010
9:12 am

Tony, we wouldn’t be having this conversation if we had not gone for a 2-point conversion too early in the 2nd half….The Dawgs whould’ve won by a point without OT. That is how razor thin things are. But, you cannot win in the SEC committing 4 turnovers. Replacing Richt would put us backwards 5 years. My problem with Meyer is the classlessness and ignorance he showed by re-instating Rainey…a person that is not worthy of wearing ANY uniform in the NCAA. I ask you, had Florida not lost 3 in a row, would he have done that before the Georgia game? I think not.

Deja Vu

November 2nd, 2010
9:13 am

At some point, firing the assistant coaches begins to resemble shuffling the deck chairs on the Titanic. Georgia’s coaching situation is very reminiscent of Auburn’s recent dilemma.

Maybe next year will be different?

Florida Fans for Richt

November 2nd, 2010
9:15 am

Tony, now that you’ve assumed the title of Mark Richt’s Shower Caddy and exposed yourself once again as a homer, perhaps you’d comment on Richt lying about Grantham’s choke sign and scream to UF’s kicker by saying he was calling in defensive signals on his call in show. How embarrassing it must be to be a UGa fan these days. 30 arrests, out of control staff, head coach lying to protect him. Good grief.

phil g

November 2nd, 2010
9:15 am

Oh failed to mention, at least Fulmer won a National Championship – in the first 5 years.

If it hasn’t happened yet for Richt, it ain’t goin’ to.

But please, please keep Richt.

Snow Dawg

November 2nd, 2010
9:15 am

I love you Tony but you are just wrong on this one. All the statistics are out there on how UGA has performed against top teams since Saban and Meyer hit the scene. Why do teams lose to less talented teams on a regular basis…simple IT IS COACHING!!!! When you lose to a more talented team there is no shame in that…it happens…see UF game in ‘08 & ‘09. When you lose to far less talented teams like UF ‘10, SC, Colorado, MS State, UK, & Vanderbuilt that is poor coaching plain and simple. CMR will not turn this around…with talent alone they can occasionally win 9 maybe 10 games when all the chips fall just right but for the most part UGA will be a 7 to 8 win team most years. I for one have a ton of repect for CMR but also know when someone is over his head and he clearly is WAY over his head with Meyer & Saban around. Any accomplishment prior to Saban & Meyer don’t mean a thing…the bar has been raised and Richt simply cannot keep up and the results back it up…These are facts Tony!

GatorBait

November 2nd, 2010
9:16 am

Just moments after the 34-31 overtime win over Georgia on Saturday, when Urban Meyer said it was his biggest victory at Florida, many assumed Meyer must have just gotten caught up in the emotion of the moment.

Surely, those two national championship game victories were bigger.

After having some time to think on it, Meyer on Monday re-confirmed what he said Saturday night.

“The greatest win,” he said. ” Of all time. … History of the game. Absolutely.”

Meyer then went on to explain why.

“Big picture why,” Meyer said. “Big picture for the most important people, our players. For the second most, our people and staff. … The karma, eating food that tastes good again. We had a victory meal last night and I have no idea what it was, but it was unbelievable. That’s why.

Coach, you had roasted Bulldog, that’s why it tasted so good.

Dawg Fan

November 2nd, 2010
9:16 am

I can’t even believe you yahoo’s are discussing this. Of course Mark should stay. He is one of the best Coach’s in the country. We do need to do a better job recruiting, really need a big time running back. That and some big defensive linemen. Then we will be where all Dawgs want to be…on TOP!

phil g

November 2nd, 2010
9:16 am

Where can I joing the ‘Tennessee fans for Richt’ support group?

AFDawg

November 2nd, 2010
9:20 am

Tony, You couldn’t be more wrong. CMR has had his chances the last five years. Bobby Bowden knew it — CMR isn’t SEC championship caliber. He is Sunbelt winning season material. We need an experienced professional who knows how to pick quality assistants, knows how to coach-up players, knows what plays to call and when, knows how to prepare a team properly (from fundamentals to special teams), and knows how to use all of the talent at his disposal. I would hire June Jones away from SMU immediately. June Jones has the right stuff to go toe to toe with Saban, Meyers, Miles and Spurrier in the SEC.

3rdN8

November 2nd, 2010
9:20 am

Changing the subject. Isn’t Bama playing LSU this week?

Deja Vu

November 2nd, 2010
9:21 am

@Snow Dawg

You nailed it. Both Tubby and Richt took advantage of a period in which the traditional powers in the SEC were down. When that era ended, Tubby got sent out to pasture. Then again, Auburn fans can’t afford to accept mediocrity when they have to compete with Alabama for the State Championship. Tech makes Richt’s job much easier, in that respect.

Another Worthless AJC Opinion

November 2nd, 2010
9:24 am

Your opinion is worthless along with Jeff’s, King’s, Shultz. You guys are nothing but instruments of controversy. We know that all of you will stabb Ritch in the back at the first opportunity.

The Real SugarHillDawg

November 2nd, 2010
9:25 am

I know this is going to be a BLSPHEMOUS statement but I think Searels needs to be sent packing! Have we had a dominating O-line since he has gotten here? Not just NO but HELL NO.!!!! He can take Rodney Garner with him too.

The Colonel

November 2nd, 2010
9:25 am

All those calling for CMR’s head remind me of the French Revolution. “Let’s just chop off everyone’s head…just in case”.

If you fire CMR and start over, what guarantees do you get with a new coach? What has Rich Rod done at Michigan? Is Notre Dame much better than last year? Anybody remember Mike Price? Jimbo Fisher isn’t turning out to be a messiah.

GA is competing against the best in the country. You can’t expect perfection…but you should expect competitive teams.

The remodeled defense was a great start. Give Grantham some time to a. recruit the players he needs and b. institute the scheme.

The rest of the coaching staff needs to go under the microscope. As hard as it may be, personal frendships must be second to quality coaching. This is now is big business and just like corporate America, if you are contributing to the bottomline, you have to go.

Lastly, if you saw the movie “Miracle”, you will understand this one. We don’t need the Best Players…..just the Right Players.

Enough Said.

BleedRedN'Black

November 2nd, 2010
9:27 am

Richt should stay. Eleven arrests for this season are embarrassing. Defeats against inferior teams are hard on players and coaches. It is hard to be perfect. And when we the fans asked for heads to roll, Willie Martinez was sacrificed. Are we better because of it? Let the first five games this season be the answer.

Richt’s fault. No, it is our fault. Lets not make the same mistakes. There are 500 Division 1 schools that would love to have Mark Richt on their team.

Glenn

November 2nd, 2010
9:27 am

Lets take emotion out of it . With the high school programs in Georgia , just this state alone , UGA should be in contention every year . I like Mark Richt alot . But lets take emotion out of it . Chris Petersen or Gary Patterson would be a MUCH better head coach . I even heard Chris Petersen is a scientologist . But lets take emotion out of it .

Tard Dawg

November 2nd, 2010
9:27 am

This article didn’t evaluate Richt’s ability to “hunker down” and where he hunker downs best. Between the hedges? Behind the hedges? Across from the hedges? UGA has hedges on their field that should be hunkered down in between.

historydog

November 2nd, 2010
9:28 am

There have been too many games, just like the first half of the Fl. game, when Ga. was not ready to play. They played the first half at Fl. just going through the motions, no zest, no drive or sense of purpose. It should not take the first half of a game for the coaches to figure out a game plan, or get the team up to play, they should be ready from the first kick off. Look back, most of the games against top teams have been just like the FL. game. Richt will stick by BoBo because he does not have the gumption to fire him. Ga. will continue to be mediocre until Richt and company leave.

Phil

November 2nd, 2010
9:28 am

phil g the Tennessee fan makes some good points.

For all you clowns that say “look at Tennessee, you want to end up like them?” First of all, Tennessee is in this predicament because that scum bag Kiffin quit on them with like 2 weeks left in recruiting season. They had to move over night and Dooley was the best they could come with in that short amount of time.

Plus many of Kiffin’s recruits bailed out after he left. Their recruiting was left in shambles. And let’s not forget Tennessee was a pretty good team last year after the Fulmer change. They beat us and came within a blocked FG of beating Alabama.

Had Kiffin stayed, they would be evev better this year. So quit with the “look at Tennessee” excuse. Kiffin is responsible for the condition they are in right now.

Burger Boy

November 2nd, 2010
9:29 am

Times are tough and will get tougher if CMR is fired. I own a tanning bed salon and CMR is my number 1 client. If he gets fired, I’m out of business.

Gator Man

November 2nd, 2010
9:29 am

This sports writer and others in Georiga is the reason UGA has not played for a NAT in 3o years, you people at this school dont look at results you look for he is a nice guy.
Urban was on the hot seat with the media in Florida and he won 2 Nat in 6 years.
This tells you the standards are set high in Florida by the media and the fans.
Mark Richt would have been fired long ago by the big three schools in Florida.

3rdN8

November 2nd, 2010
9:30 am

@ The Colonel

good points….all

Whoever the “next guy” is, is one sticky wicket. All it really buys is some time for the AD. New coaching staff, and things will get better….right?

My guess would be…..UGA will go for Gary Patterson, or Dan Mullen.

Patterson may be a tough hire. There’s more money in Fort Worth than in Fort Knox.

Tide Rising

November 2nd, 2010
9:30 am

Tony lost all credibility when he used the if this and if that argument to say that if Georgia would have made it to the 2007 seccg that they would have beaten LSU in his opinion. Gotta call BS on that one. UGA was hot at the end of the year but who did they really beat other than a solid AU team? They beat a Florida team that was missing 3 D-lineman and Tim Tebow was playing injured with not one but 2 injured shoulders. And Hawaii? Give me a break. Another paper tiger team. LSU was the flat out better team that year. They lost two OT games on the road to bowl teams and beat the no. 5 team in the nation VT 48-7. UGA lost a blowout 35-7 to UT and lost at home to an unranked Carolina team. The hawaii game was a joke.

Richt deserves to keep his job based on his body of overall work and should be given one more year to turn it around. But you don’t have to play the if if game to make a bogus statement that some of his teams were better than they really were.

Barkin'Dog

November 2nd, 2010
9:31 am

LawDawg– YOU ARE A DOG FAN, AREN’T YOU? ;-)

TJ

November 2nd, 2010
9:32 am

To all of you who disagree with Tony…. who could Georgia get that would do a better job?

ol' balls coach

November 2nd, 2010
9:33 am

Keep Richt. Fire Grantham. Bench Rambo.

read n black

November 2nd, 2010
9:33 am

Haven’t we read this column before? I thought I knew where this program was headed 6 years ago….how tall is this mountain? Must we keep walking it only to keep falling down as other programs take a helicopter?

yea Tony

November 2nd, 2010
9:34 am

Georgia needs to win 2 games every year from now on till the end of time. Florida and GA Tech. So why not just prepare every year to beat these 2 schools and forget about everyting else? Lets say that next year Ga beats Florida and GA tech and goes to a bowl game but doesnt play for the Championship game. Ok, In my book that is progress. I think Richts priorities are in the wrong place.

CantonDawg

November 2nd, 2010
9:34 am

If CMR would care as much about the football players and the program like he does with his trips to 3rd world countries then it might be a better program. You are committed to your family 1st and coaching second, but they have to almost be tied together when your a head coach.

Deja Vu

November 2nd, 2010
9:36 am

@Gator Man

Mark Richt would have also been fired long ago by any of the big five schools in the SEC.

Those would be:

Alabama
Florida
Tennessee
LSU
Auburn

There used to be six SEC programs with national relevance. One is now missing from the list. I’ll let you guess which one.

Dixie Redcoat Band

November 2nd, 2010
9:37 am

Enter your comments here

ratherBgambling

November 2nd, 2010
9:38 am

Keep Coach Richt!!!!!!

Sincerely,
Gator Nation

Dixie Redcoat Band

November 2nd, 2010
9:38 am

UGA always has a Top Ten recruiting class, year after year, nothing happens year after year..

SadDawg

November 2nd, 2010
9:38 am

Please don’t use the words “Willie Martinez” and “sacrificed” in the same sentence.

Willie was paid over $400,000 in ‘09, and coached our defense so well, it was the 84th rated (out of 120) in the NCAA.

Phil

November 2nd, 2010
9:39 am

“To all of you who disagree with Tony…. who could Georgia get that would do a better job?”

Jim Harbaugh from Stanford. Take a look at that program. Tough, physical, smash-smouth, smart program. Don’t see any thugery going on with that program. Don’t see any Assistant Coaches giving the choke sign to opposing players.

And can you imagine what kind of program he could build here with the recruiting in this part of the country?

rpidge

November 2nd, 2010
9:39 am

As an old UGA grad I hurt for our football program. If you keep Richt for another year then it must be made clear and up front that he has to restructure his entire staff, offense, defense (especially the play of the defensive backs), strength coach is slacking, and recruiting could use some tuning up. If he can’t perform these tasks then start over from scratch top to bottom.

KJ Copeland

November 2nd, 2010
9:39 am

At Alabama you get fired for going 2-8 against your biggest rival. Period, end of discussion. However, UGA is not Alabama. The 2 SEC titles were the aberration, not the norm. UGA has returned to their rightful place as perennial also rans in the SEC. They have the right coach for who they truly are.

snapshot

November 2nd, 2010
9:40 am

The mutts will destroy the school of potato growers and all will be fine again.

Jim

November 2nd, 2010
9:43 am

While I don’t totally disagree with your comments about “keeping Mark Ritch”, I do point out that, at the present time, UGA has NO DRAW or INFLUENCE with which new athletes can be secured. Who wants to play on a losing team for 2 or 3 years while a rebuild cycle starts all over again? How many “preferred stock” athletes have been turned off by the UGA record and the manner of coaching, where QBs are stacked 3, 4, or 5 deep while the right one is chosen? How many have gone on to other schools when they were originally interested in UGA? I think there have been some good ones who went elsewhere. BTW, was Cam Newton ever recruited by UGA? If not, why not? I don’t know what other schools offer that cause them to land the big ones, while UGA continues to hope something works. Add this situation to the arrests and suspensions for the pasr few years, and one can understand better why we haven’t done well. I have no doubts about Ritch and his moral intentions to make all players better folks. But, there are those whill take advantage of him and his intentions, and screw up the entire program. Might take a look at Spurrier when he arrived at South Carolina, where several “stars” were in trouble, including one of the best running backs ibn college ball at that time. But, Steve made a decision, and fired about a dozen players, saying he did not have time to ride herd on no-goodnics and jail birds. Seems like he made a good choice on who to run off and who to keep.

I am a UGA Grad, Class of 54, and I have memories of some good teams and some not-so-good teams. Same with players. Of course, that was before the “red shirt program” became foremost in everybodys’ mind. Coach Butts did not cottle ner-do-wells. They either played or they were sent home. Responsibility of a coach is to produce a team that can earn its keep, and add glory to the University. If he can’t do that, problems begin. Soon the inmates are running the prison, and the coach is a bad guy if he suspends one or sends him home. A coach as well as a player on scholarship is an investment for the University. Anything that detracts from that goal must fall by the wayside, regardless of what people think. In my book, a coaching change is needed now. No probationary periods, no wait and see periods, now before the water gets too much muddier. I know this is not a position most fans and Alums would take, but this one does. That is one good reason why I am not coaching. Some people are unhappy with the current status of things, but, heavens no, do not change. Go Georgia Bulldogs. Give’em hell.

Gatorzone

November 2nd, 2010
9:43 am

Tony, you left off the 2007 beatdown UGA took at the hands of Tennessee!

Also, CHOKE CHOKE! Grantham is a real winner!

Deja Vu

November 2nd, 2010
9:43 am

The Georgia football program is dead. The only question now is how long the funeral service will carry on. How much difference can “one more year” make, after all?

Isn’t that what everyone said last year?

Jim 007

November 2nd, 2010
9:44 am

And keep the THUGA atmosphere ?

Richt is now out of his league in coaching, picking a Good staff, & of course dicipline.

Without MORE MAJOR Changes, things will just get worse !

Paul N Destin

November 2nd, 2010
9:44 am

MY 2 cents…In 2006 at Bama it was Bama needs a new OC instead of Shula calling the play and we needed a new Offensive line coach due to the blocking scheme was old school..etc. The Fact is when you’re trying to tell the HC what his problem is then the battle is lost!!!!!! If the HC doesn’t know what the problem is then why do you retain them?? You can drag this on but you will lose in the end. Neil Callaway and Brian Van Gorder(sp) were the two that held your program at near top and you should be able to see that. Your about to lose a top running back to Bama due to all the thinks that happen away from the field at UGA. Fix the problem as deepthroat said. Mullen is the guy you need and don’t spare the checkbook!

3rdN8

November 2nd, 2010
9:45 am

@ rpidge

I think your’s in the only solution. The problem is time. I think the train has left the station.

Sick of the trolling

November 2nd, 2010
9:47 am

I agree with everything except the statement that “the offensive line finally jelled” last year. They didn’t ‘gel’. They played 3 teams with smaller, weaker defensive lines…and the running game got going. UGA’s pro-style offense works off of the running game and the play action. Poor offensive line play has been holding this team back for 5+ years. Once the WR stopped dropping balls a few years ago, the o-line is the ONLY problem this team has on offense.

Defensively, this team needs a stopper in the middle of the line.

SadDawg

November 2nd, 2010
9:47 am

Oh yeah, Tide Rising, LSU was hell on wheels in ‘07. Lost to UK, yeah, UK, and were playing so good late in the year they lost their last home game like 50-45.

UGA, after the UT loss, ran the table, and in fact had won more games in a row than any other Top Ten team. I watched Teabow being interviewed after the game and he said his shoulder (singular) was not an issue in the game.

Nothing like a dumbass revising history . . .

TJ

November 2nd, 2010
9:48 am

@Phil – Harbaugh would never come to Georgia… particularly if UGA got rid of Richt.

nicktator

November 2nd, 2010
9:49 am

cheezik without cam = urban without tebow…. everybody seems to forget that auburn sucked last year and cam is the only real difference in those two squads.

oh, and please keep richt. fire him, and jawja might accidentally hire a coach with a clue…

Gen Neyland

November 2nd, 2010
9:49 am

Palladin : From a Red Elephant standpoint, I understand how you feel about CPF.

Deja Vu

November 2nd, 2010
9:50 am

@SadDawg

“Nothing like a dumbass revising history . . .”

ROTFLMAO!!!

Nat

November 2nd, 2010
9:50 am

Georgia is not the first team to run out of gas in mile-high Colorado – with an AJ or without. The only thing that ticks me off is that Donnan could not beat Florida and they fired him despite his winning over 60% of his games. Richt can’t beat Florida but has won nearly 80% of his games. And, finally, the arrests and embarrassments are what REALLY bothers me. If you recruit crap, you get crap on the field. Someone at the top has to decide if you’ll settle for crap or not.

TallaDawg

November 2nd, 2010
9:50 am

If the team played like a cohesive unit and it came down to a fieldgoal, Tony would be right. But, UGA did not look mentally ready to play the game Saturday. It should have been 21-7 UGa by the second Qtr.

Mr. McGarrity better realize quickly that, YES, beating Florida is more important than beating any one of the other SEC East schools.

CDAWG

November 2nd, 2010
9:51 am

Tony, great article and I totally agree with you.

Phil

November 2nd, 2010
9:51 am

Jim

Very good points. I have wondered the same thing, did we not recruit Cam Newton? The guy was right under Richt’s nose and they didn’t get him?

Also it’s a sad state of affairs that when the Number 1 recruit in the state(Crowell) points out all the arrests going on with the Georgia program and that he’s turned off by it.

Players, Assitant Coaches, all acting like a bunch of juvenile delinquents. Disgusting times at UGA.

Phil

November 2nd, 2010
9:53 am

TJ

I never said Harbaugh would. You asked who was better and I answered. But if you throw enough money out there, I believe he would.

Gen Neyland

November 2nd, 2010
9:53 am

Gatorzone : I addressed that issue in my first post of the day. TB addressed it as Tennessee’s 4 OT win over UK that shot down the Dawgs in ‘07. I saw it as UGA losing to Tennessee that did ‘em in. UT did what they had to do to get to the Dome that year. UGA did not. Evidence that there’s 3 sides to every story : Yours, mine and the truth.

Guy Womack

November 2nd, 2010
9:53 am

When Coach Richt first arrived from Florida State, he displayed the offensive genius that carried FSU to so many high rankings, and he led our Dawgs to some exciting wins over tough rivals. Then he relinquished play-calling to Mike Bobo, who is a competent Offensive Coordinator but not yet the equal to Richt in out-thinking an opponents defense. Coach Richt should resume the play-calling on game days, at least every other series, both as a training measure for Bobo and because we want to see the Dawgs fully use their offensive weapons — one of the greatest of whom is surely playing his last few games between the hedges. Before A. J. Green slips off to the NFL in the first round of the 2011 draft, let’s get a good look at his talents! And if Coach Richt makes this change, no one will be asking him to leave!

RussDawg

November 2nd, 2010
9:54 am

Did we forget to Colorado game???
The trend is heading in the wrong direction.
AD shoud make it clear to CMR.
UGA in ATL for SEC title in ‘12 or you hit the bricks

Matt the Brave

November 2nd, 2010
9:54 am

For me, ONE more season. He’s got to get rid of Bobo. I’m sorry, he’s just not a creative enough coach for the personnel we have on this team. Wouldn’t mind to see him continue on at UGA, he was a heckuva QB coach before being moved into his Peter Principle position.

Tony is a fool

November 2nd, 2010
9:54 am

Tony, you are as stupid as Schultz.

Cheapy

November 2nd, 2010
9:55 am

fire his azz now

DAWG 1

November 2nd, 2010
9:55 am

CAKEMAN – I finished at UGA in ‘61. Do you remember those years? Nothing short of pathetic. Then Vince Dooley came along and put us on the map. You state that Mark Richt is “head and shoulders” above the other coaches we have had. If you are talking about as a human being, perhaps. If you are talking about as a football coach, no way. Vince Dooley was full of integrity, still is, and he turned our program around to the point we are having this discussion today.
In the beginning, Richt won with Jim Donnan’s recruits, Unfortunately he has done very little with his.
If we were to make a change after this year, we would lose several recruits that are committed to us, no doubt. However, if we hired someone like Peterson or Harbaugh, the future would sure seem brighter. There are no guarantees. We have one of the largest stadiums in the country, terrific facilities that are not surpassed by anyone except perhaps those with an indoor practice facility, a huge fan base that pays a lot of money to watch ballgames and it keeps getting more expensive, and we have a huge bank account with much in reserve. We are in a state with superior talent akin to CA, TX and FL. We are in the strongest conference in the country. All these things make us very attractive. Yet, we are not gaining on the competition, we are losing!
It is a tough business. While Richt if a fine human being, he is not tough. We need someone who is. If he is retained after this year and he doesn’t demote Bobo, he is spelling his “death knell”. If he does not institute rigid rules of conduct for the players, he is remiss in his responsibility to parents and the players themselves. If he does not have the strength and conditioning program evaluated by outsiders in a fair and un-biased manner, he will be remiss. Continuing to fail to take tough steps, make changes that are necessary, and in effect get things headed in the right direction, he will be without a job but he will be rich. Perhaps the money will console him for his failure. Perhaps he will realize this, make necessary changes and get us back to where we should be every year – a winner of high standards.
Cakeman, his integrity is not winning, and winning is what it is all about. Vince Dooley had integrity and won. Richt has yet to prove he can carry Dooleys hat!

3rdN8

November 2nd, 2010
9:55 am

@ nicktator

If you think Newton is the only difference in the ‘09, and’10 AU teams, then you haven’t been watching their games. AU is a team of believers. The defense is overmatched every week, but they stay in the game. They “know”, if they can keep it close, someone will make a play.

I think Bama can win on Nov. 27, but my head is not in the sand.

BTW – it’s time for your meds.

CDAWG

November 2nd, 2010
9:56 am

I have heard a lot of comments about Bobo this year but he has put 283 points up thus far this season. Nick Saban’s 2007 team put up 286 points in their first 9 games. Give the D one more year to learn the system, get some more players in here that fit his scheme and we are in business. When a team scores 31 points they should be winning the game.

Doug

November 2nd, 2010
9:56 am

Great dialogue from this column. Two things not given enough discussion. One is a simple question. Is Mark Richt and staff recruiting top talent to UGA. I think the facts are they are no longer recruiting the best on a consistant basis. They no longer have a lock on the top state talent, have not faired well bringing in top recruits from other states, and recently have experienced real issues with current players. And I a not talking about getting all 5 star recruits. I am talking about an excellent mix……David Pollack was not a five star athlete….but he had an incredible work ethic.
Second is Mark Richt has been here 10 years. Sometimes for both the sake of the person and the school a PROACTIVE change is healthy. I think that time is now especially if the new AD is the right person to lead a new search.

BufordDawg

November 2nd, 2010
9:56 am

Dan Mullen now, please!

Bob

November 2nd, 2010
9:56 am

Tony must think then the dems should stay in power. when you f up, it’s time to get out. richt has been f’ing up for 3 years now and when you add all the off the field problems, well enough is enough.

huckhound

November 2nd, 2010
9:56 am

Magic number for Richt is 9: That’s the number of games he MUST win in 2011 to remain Head Coach of the ‘Dawgs. Nine or more, he stays. Eight or less, he goes. McGarrity can justify his decision easily under those scenarios, and I think the Bulldog Nation will reasonably accept the decision. I don’t remember any sadness at the firing of Goff or Donnan. If and when Richt is fired, there will be sadness. I hope he can turn it around. Go ‘Dawgs!

Phil

November 2nd, 2010
9:57 am

Amen DAWG 1!!!!!!!!

Spokesman for the SEC East

November 2nd, 2010
9:58 am

Trey Burton is better as a true freshman than Tebow was. Tebow only came in on short yardage situations. Burton put the team on his back as a true freakin Freshman. How is that for something to think about Dawg fans?

SECWasteManagement

November 2nd, 2010
9:58 am

@ Tony is a fool

No way in hell you can tell me he is worse than Schultz haha. See article about the “Grantham Choke” where there are 1,000+ comments of UGA, FT, Aub, and UF fans agreeing and saying he is a moron.

New Blood

November 2nd, 2010
10:00 am

We need a change!!!!!

McDawg

November 2nd, 2010
10:00 am

Tyson has done a good job but we really need a NG–who is going to step up at OLB??-C. Washington is good but he is not J. Houston

there is a chance that Boykin bolts

the offense is in good shape even w/ A.J., and Boling leaving

we really need to close the deal on these GA H.S. guys who are uncommitted if we are going to “turn this thing around”

i think CMR should be back but one more year of not being ready coming out of the gate and i think we will need a change

the Mississippi St. game was the only game this year where i thought we played poorly-as far as performance goes i’ll take this team over last year’s anyday

spuga

November 2nd, 2010
10:00 am

my biggest issue with CMR is that he is essentially the “CEO” of the UGA football team and he has broken one of the all time rules “slow to hire, quick to fire” Coach Tuberville was fired for the same reason, he to was a great coach, but didn’t surround himself with the correct staff. CMR stuck with Willy Martinez too long, and looks like its the same story with Bobo (at least with play calling). As stated in this article Hiring and Firing has to be done without emotion- you can’t do that when you hire your buddies.

ct

November 2nd, 2010
10:01 am

I cant see how Richt keeps his job. 8-5 last year, 7-6 this year at best. Does Georgia not have aspirations to be an elite program anymore? Would Florida settle for this type of success? I highly doubt it. Get rid of Richt and throw wads of cash at Mullin.

BoomerSooner

November 2nd, 2010
10:01 am

Willie Martinez was a SCAPEGOAT for Saint Richt. He’s coaching true freshmen in the 2ndary at OU and they are doing just fine. Thanks for “firing” him.

Lake Oconee Dawg

November 2nd, 2010
10:02 am

Coach Richt should continue as UGA coach. So what the Gators won but remember the Dawgs are young. A great Freshman QB, young running backs, young DB so look to next year and the next. Mr. H. Walker was right in his assestment of Coach Richt, he need to get respect, get tough on the player who are “thuds” who can’t follow the Dawg rules. Remember kids love discipline if they feel it is fair. They want to be discipline if they have character and that is what it takes to win!!! Coach you are doing an excellent job with the program keep doing what you are doing and set rule and win respect. God bless you and the DAWGS. GO DAWGS.

Tony the Homer

November 2nd, 2010
10:03 am

So glad your pathetic team is going through this. I love seeing you in chaos.

SadDawg

November 2nd, 2010
10:03 am

SECWasteManagement,

Shultz got over 1000 hits on that posting?

If so, he’s not a fool. He probably got a raise. . .

Gatorfan

November 2nd, 2010
10:03 am

Bottom Line: With Richt, you can usually expect except for the last two years to beat other teams most of the time and lose to Florida most of the time.

With someone else, wanna bet that the losing gets worse to other teams and maybe better/stays the same w/ Florida. UGA is better w/ Richt against everyone else except Florida. Keep him

Phil

November 2nd, 2010
10:03 am

Somebody suggested hiring Mike Leach to replace Bobo. While I agree Leach is a loose cannon, he is an offensive guru. Might not be a bad idea. I think we all can agree Bozo needs to go. I think Richt can save himself with such a move.

LawDawg

November 2nd, 2010
10:04 am

BarkinDawg – Absolutely I’m a Dawg. However, I often find myself envious of many other team’s RBs and safeties. True the OL has not performed to the level we all expected. Is that Searels fault? But, I swear we have the slowest 1-2 RBs in the conference. Would be great if they lowered the wood on someone but that is often not the case. Is this a sign that our speed & conditioning program is out of whack or are we not recruiting the right guys?

producer

November 2nd, 2010
10:05 am

Richt should have been axed after the Colorado game. He is an embarrassment as a coach and his record over the last two years is horrid. After all of these loses I listed to the sports radio talk shows and all I heard was what a great “effort” was made by his players, their “courage” displayed on the field. What a bunch of rot! He has too many thugs on his team that he tolerates, He doesn’t have any kind of passion and is too comfortable with losses! Get the hook and bring in someone who will scare the bats**t out of these lazy, mediocre players. All I hear after losses is a group Kumbaya moment! I ask this: Would Bear Bryant or Woody Hayes or Vince Lombardi have put up with this record, this uninspired performance? Of course not! These are not adults he has playing for him. They are boys and should be treated as such. Discipline, discipline, discipline! Make them scared to even think about failure. Georgia has not been a real tier one team in decades, despite an occasional SEC title. And they wouldn’t have ever been a real contender if it had not been for the Herschel glory years. Enough mediocrity. Bring in a ball busting coach and give him free rein!

Phil

November 2nd, 2010
10:06 am

producer,

I keep preaching Jim Harbaugh. I think he is exactly the kind of coach you are referring to.

Abnerish

November 2nd, 2010
10:08 am

I have faith that the ball will start bouncing our way once again. You have to admit that during Richt’s first 5 years, their were an awful lot of favorable bounces that allowed us to win games we probably should’ve lost. The biggest one for me was in 2002, South Carolina fumbled on the 2 as they were going in for the winning TD, if that doesn’t happen, we never win the SEC in 2002. Faith will be rewarded. (or at least that’s what I keep telling myself!!)

CDAWG

November 2nd, 2010
10:08 am

Boomer, no one has said that Martinez is not a great secondary coach, he just didn’t do well being the D coordinator.

rebeldawg

November 2nd, 2010
10:08 am

I was for the preacher man being gone before last year.You said it all look at the record against the gators.

Dawg47

November 2nd, 2010
10:10 am

Meyer, Saban, Mullen and Chizik all have less tenure at their current spot than Richt at GA; I would say that the SEC is going by GA at a rapid pace; They are the Kentucky of the SEC now; the real issue is GA has top recruiting classes every year, but something happens once they get to Athens. Are they all of a sudden becoming not top recruits or are they not being coached up and being prepared to compete in the SEC? I would say the later has happened.
I think GA had their athletes in a position to win last Sat against FL but they didn’t make plays when they really needed to. But Richt has to be accountable for the times this year when they were not prepared; not to mention all of the big plays they give up; It’s time for Richt to step it up or step aside!

3rdN8

November 2nd, 2010
10:11 am

On a side note.

Does anyone understand the computer rankings? I liken them to airline ticket prices.

In Jeff Sagarin’s poll, Auburn is ranked sixth behind a one loss Stanford, Missouri, and Nebraska. Bama is ranked ninth behind a one loss Oklahoma. Boise State is ranked seventh, and they’ve only played seven games (never mind what seven).

Somethng is terribly amiss here.

Gator Man

November 2nd, 2010
10:12 am

Bob: Those contractors that clean up after the game compliments of the Dems money to help create jobs”””

MURPHY

November 2nd, 2010
10:12 am

Phil 10:03 Post

Seems like every year Richt can save his job by replacing a coach. At what point does this excuse wear out?

2/8 and 18/21

November 2nd, 2010
10:12 am

haha bunch of chokers.
that hand around grandma’s neck was him choking. dumb retard coach.

CDAWG

November 2nd, 2010
10:13 am

LawDawg, when we had the ball off to our RB’s they are usually 30 yards deep and as someone said yesterday it takes them 2.5 days to get back to the line of scrimmage. I would like to see some quicker handoffs with the backs a little closer. It looks like the RB’s are waiting for an invitation to start running once they do get the ball. If they would just freaking RUN!!!

CDAWG

November 2nd, 2010
10:13 am

albert

November 2nd, 2010
10:13 am

Gators own uga, Gator bait!!!!!!!

vtdawg

November 2nd, 2010
10:14 am

Wow if we all get together and cry about it maybe we can change the rain defecit in Georgia.
Why do we expect a man to do more than he can do. CMR is an elite coach and everybody can give up on thinking Kirby or Will may be coming back, then again aren’t we looking to replace a coach with people who are under what we consider to be elite. I know not what goes on in a headcoaches job nor do I want to, but I bet the last thing he thinks about is what a bunch of people write about him on these sites. I am and will always be a dawg fan, remember this is the S.E.C. The Super Elite Conference, teams should struggle . If fans think we can’t compete then maybe we should petition to play in the ACC . Just my opinion , I am tired of hearing about firing a man who has done a great job! Remember programs get better and recruiting goes to those who win and get national exposure , maybe we should be helping our team keep the greatest talent in the nation in state. To use scripture “train a child in the way he should go and when he is older he will not depart from it”. GO DAWGS!!!

and another thing...

November 2nd, 2010
10:16 am

Thank you Tony…you are right on.

GTBob

November 2nd, 2010
10:16 am

Richt’s problem isn’t that he he is not a good coach, it’s that he will never be a great coach. UGA always gets top recruits, has great facilities, and generates a lot of money. Not to mention how many people attend the university just because of the football team. There is a higher level of expectation at UGA then most schools and Richt is not living up to it.

Phil

November 2nd, 2010
10:16 am

MURPHY

I agree 100% with you. But I just don’t believe Adams or McGarrity have the guts to replace Richt. So keep going with the band aid approach and Richt can stretch it out another 5-10 years.

Dave

November 2nd, 2010
10:17 am

Top 5 recruiting classes, high paid coaching staff great facilities, tradition……The most underachieving program in the nation. Can anyone argue with that? Really?

Donnie Doldorf

November 2nd, 2010
10:17 am

You know, good or bad here there is just too much being raised about Coach Richt. Unfortunately it’s just time to move on when this much attention is being poured into his job status on a weekly basis.

SEC Least

November 2nd, 2010
10:18 am

Hey Tony, if you think Georgia has better players, then do you think Colorado could win the SEC Least?

Driving Ms Dooley

November 2nd, 2010
10:19 am

I’m sorry Tony but I didn’t read the article. I’m thinking this is an article that you write every month or so for a good while now and it pretty much has the same stuff in it. You know, he’s a nice guy, bla bla bla.

I’ll just give you my same stuff.

CMR hasn’t gotten worse–The rest of the SEC has gotten better.

It’s capitalism at its finest. There’s enough TV money now that every SEC school (ok, except Vandy which should be in the ACC) can attract a stellar head coach and very good assistants.

But wouldn’t it be wild if CMR ends up with the same record as Derek (Field Marshal Rommell) Dooley. Dooley’s new starting QB is too skinny to play basketball and he has more walk-ons and freshman playing than upper classman.

I just hope my prediction doesn’t pan out–That Dooley turns the team around by year three and CMR is still hanging on. Then, by year 5, Georgia sees a better alternative to CMR and goes after it’s favorite son. Well, maybe by then, our favorite son will come home to save the day. A notable #18–the only player-coach in the NFL. That would be interesting.

SEC Least

November 2nd, 2010
10:20 am

Has a Monster Truck show or Gun & Knife show replaced the SEC Championship this year? Is Phil Fulmer’s Fish Fry still on for that weekend?

Gator hater

November 2nd, 2010
10:21 am

2-8 is 2-8! the man has lost to some bad Uf teams. spurrier’s last year. lost to zook twice! 2002 we couldnt score more than one touchdown and had the best team in the country – gues who was calling plays?

Rick

November 2nd, 2010
10:22 am

Coach Richt has been at UGA over 10 years now. He has accomplished a lot during that time and is now one of the highest paid coaches in the country. He knows he would have little trouble finding a HC job somewhere else if he leaves UGA. Let’s face it, he is human and has become complacent. He still wants to win, but is not sure it is worth the tough decisions that he will need to make to win big. That is not unexpected given the relationships with his assistants and Richt’s personality.

bruce mac

November 2nd, 2010
10:24 am

Like it or not Coach Richt will most likely get another year. The problem now becomes he can show improvement in 2011 by going to the Pizza Bowl. Then what do you do? Forget the record, forget the collateral, McGarity needs to decide if he is the man for the long term and if he is move on and if not pull the trigger. That is what we are paying him to do and I support him either way.

3rdN8

November 2nd, 2010
10:25 am

“CMR hasn’t gotten worse–The rest of the SEC has gotten better. ”

Have to agree. I’ve followed SEC football for longer than I care to admit. I’ve never seen better coaching staffs (top to bottom) than I see in this league at present. There just isn’t any weeks off in conference play.

If ANY fan base thinks their team will dominate every year, then they’re in for a rude awakening.

I have no answer as to why the SEC East is so lackluster (USC on Oct. 9 being the exception)this year, but am willing to bet that pendulum will swing.

Illogical & Weak SEC Chanter

November 2nd, 2010
10:26 am

Looks like another year when Georgia will have to try and take credit for the accomplishments of their rivals. How many of them will be chanting “SEC” while watching their rivals in better bowls. Hopefully they have listened to you Tony about how this is not only illogical, but weak.

cjdtech

November 2nd, 2010
10:27 am

What if Richt was 9-1 against Florida and 2-8 against Tech? I think he would still be in Athens next year.

MURPHY

November 2nd, 2010
10:28 am

Phil,

After Bobo-Who will be left to save Richt’s job?

Figured it out!

November 2nd, 2010
10:29 am

After reading all of these comments, I think it’s safe to say that if we just hire all of the best coaches and recruit all of the best players, we’ll win all of our games from now on!! These people on here are geniuses!!!!

A Poem for Mark

November 2nd, 2010
10:29 am

nmdawg

November 2nd, 2010
10:29 am

If Coach Richt is to be retained, which I believe he should, I think NOW is the time for the new athletic director to step up and say, without hesitation, that Richt will be back. We need to quell the negative rumors and speculation. If he hedged his remarks with “assuming we can rework the rest of the coaching staff” to his support, that would be even better!

ceph

November 2nd, 2010
10:30 am

I almost vomit when I listen to you on the programs you appear on. You suck up to these coaches and act as if you have a red phone to their office. You are always saying I talked to this coach or that coach and he told me yada, yada, yada. Get over it Barnhart, you are one of the worst journalist (and i use this term loosely) that I have ever read or listened to. Richt is doing nothing but stealing from the fans and UGA. We are paying him three million dollars a year for chopped liver. He is nothing but an excuse maker and an ALILIAR, with him it is always “we are going to turn this thing around”. It is ALWAYS next year, when is next year supposed to come??????

meh

November 2nd, 2010
10:30 am

I think we need more trick plays.

bruce mac

November 2nd, 2010
10:31 am

And another year for you ACC fans to lick your wounds and talk about UGA. How pitiful you lackies have become. SEC has six teams in Top 25 and ACC has noone in Top 20. ACC really should give up football and concentrate on the minor sports where you have a chance.

@WreckBuZZ

November 2nd, 2010
10:31 am

The problem Tony, is that Aaron Murray should have been making that bad pass sometime in 2009, so that in 2010 he is throwing a TD pass in that situation. That is all on Mark Richt. He failed to see the benefit of aligning Murray’s growing pain season with the season where UGA was weaker everywhere else and their division was too strong anyway (i.e. Tebow at Florida). That year was 2009. 2010 was a better year to compete, but Richt for some reason thought he would limp around a team with Joe Cox at QB to what…finished behind Tebow and UF again?

I just don’t get his logic there. And they knew Stafford would not be there for four years but did not recruit and plan accordingly, so that by 2010 they could be competitive instead of starting over again and by that way they wasted the last season of AJ Green.

Those are issues of organization and planning, not about personality etc. That type of issue is serious and should be evaluated.

John

November 2nd, 2010
10:31 am

You are right. If we had won Saturday, no one would be saying anything. The past couple of weeks no one has said anything. All of you saying he should be fired are just fair weather fans.

MURPHY

November 2nd, 2010
10:32 am

nmdawg,

I agree. McGarity needs to make a statement that Richt will return if in fact that is the case.Alot of recruits wavering because of the un-certainity.

DawginLex

November 2nd, 2010
10:34 am

wreckbuzz,

Murray got healthy enough to play last year for the Auburn game. You really want his first game to be that game? You blow a redshirt year to play Auburn(who we probably would have lost to), KY and Tech.

Murray loses those three games and somehow that changes his confidence level for 2010?

I’m not buying it.

3rdN8

November 2nd, 2010
10:34 am

If Barnhart’s purpose was to write a column that generated comments, and opinion………then he is one more successful columnist.

Georgia Folks

November 2nd, 2010
10:34 am

Every year we say we should be better next year! I remember everyone picking this year as a year of promise because we would have so much experience back on offense. We said similar things two years ago and go creamed. Just tired of future promise Tony. Glad to see you still have faith but you also are biased since you do not want to hurt a friend. Living friendship out….and considering this as a business…Richt simply has to go. Any CEO with the past three years with a losing record if you take the cupcakes out (yes, that includes the Vandy’s of the world) and he would have been fired already. Time for a clean slate and a reason to get behind this program again. Just demoralized after years of promise with no results. Shoot even the year you brag about was more the result of the SEC being down overall than of UGA being Great.

meh

November 2nd, 2010
10:36 am

the last year UGA went to the SEC championship game was the year(2005) before Bobo started calling the plays(2006). Maybe Richt should start calling the plays again.

Chess

November 2nd, 2010
10:36 am

11 players arrested. Tony this article is weak,

coachx

November 2nd, 2010
10:37 am

My donation for season tickets will say “Keep RICHT !”

Go Dawgs !

Rick

November 2nd, 2010
10:38 am

MURPHY & nmdawg,

I bet Coach Richt would be really nervous if McGarity did come out now and say there will be no coaching change. History shows that when any college AD or professional sports GM does that during a season, the coach’s days are numbered! Recruits know this as well.

Dawg in Nashville

November 2nd, 2010
10:38 am

http://pricezack.wordpress.com/2010/11/01/tough-loss-has-georgia-fans-questioning-a-bowl-appearance/ I came across this article yesterday. it is a pretty interesting read about georgia football. some of the fans are getting a little crazy

Blackberry Cobbler

November 2nd, 2010
10:38 am

TB– The reason CMR has to go is for the very reasons you mention. The fact is he doesn’t have a clue how to turn things around. It’s just the same old lame excuses. He thinks all the Dawgs have to do is work harder. The facts are that the talent is weak and the coaching is even weaker. At seasons end, let’s suppose CMR meets with his coaching staff and then with McGarity and CMR says this is my plan for how we’ll be no worse than 10-2 next year. What evidence do we have that CMR has the ability to pull it off? I sure haven’t seen it and neither have most other fans.

AltamahaDawg

November 2nd, 2010
10:40 am

The best point Tony makes is that if but for one play, 90% of these comments wouldn’t be getting made right now. Some people call that being fickle. Or just being a sports fan.

Jim

November 2nd, 2010
10:40 am

Please will someone, preferably Urban Meyer, acknowledge that UF’s win had much less to do with Meyer’s alleged coaching wizardry and more to do with the fact that Chris Rainey was allowed to play.

Mike S

November 2nd, 2010
10:43 am

A little Perspective:

Bear Bryant – 1969 – 6-5-0, 1970 – 6-6-0 – his 12th and 13th years at Alabama. He would go on to win 8 more SEC championships and 3 more national Championships.

Joe Paterno – 1975 – 7-5-0, national champ in 1982, 1984 – 6-5-0, national champ in 1986

VINCE DOOLEY – 1969 5-5-1, 1970 5-5-0, 1971 11-1-0, 1977 5-6-0, 1979 6-5-0, 1980 NATIONAL CHAMPS

Everyone saying Mark Richt should be fired because of two mediocre season is a MORON!

From Where I Sit

November 2nd, 2010
10:43 am

Jim,

How about the fact that FL is just better has been better and will for the most part, always be better?

Enough Said!

nmdawg

November 2nd, 2010
10:44 am

Rick–

you are probably right, since the sports world has so little integrity any more. If given a show of support, it would probably be the death penalty for Richt! Your point is well taken.

gernblanksi

November 2nd, 2010
10:44 am

Tony – Mark Richt is the John Cooper of the SEC. A good to very good coach who re-established a tradition laden program on the national scene. But much like Cooper could not beat Michigan (no matter who was coaching) Richt cannot beat Florida (no matter who is coaching.) There were times that OSU had better players than Michigan and lost. At one point it looked like Cooper was going to breakthrough with a national championship for the Buckeyes (especially after finishing 2nd in the nation twice.) But after going 11-1 in 1998, Cooper last two teams were 6-6 and 8-4. In those last two years not only was he losing to Michigan, but OSU was now losing to the likes of Illinois, Michigan St., Minnesota, and Purdue. Kind of like Richt losing to Miss. St., Ark, and Colorado.

If UGA loses to both Auburn and Ga Tech, Richt should be replaced. Cooper was and OSU hired Jim Tressel – who has taken OSU to the next level. After 10 years and serious trend downward in his success, Richt should be removed and allow someone else to take over.

JoeFan

November 2nd, 2010
10:46 am

CMR doesn’t seem to have control of his players or coaches. Grantham and his cheap antics are the latest case. CMR is to well paid for this type of display. Give him one more year but if 2011 is not a complete reversal he has to go.

Alabama Dog

November 2nd, 2010
10:46 am

Tony, I’m afraid I agree with the concensus of the blogs I’ve read. While Mark Richt has brought some positives to the program, it would appear to me the lack of discipline, both on & off the field, is an ongoing issue which has not beem addressed. As a resident of the state of Alabama, I believe I can say with some degree of certainty, that both Alabama & Auburn do not put up with mediocrity for long periods of time. I am 52 years old, and in my lifetime, Georgia has only had 5 head football coaches. In the last 28 years alone, Alabama has had 6, yes 6, head football coaches! While I believe in continuity, there also comes a time when you have to cut your losses. I firmly believe that time is NOW for Georgia!

Scott

November 2nd, 2010
10:47 am

Nice to know you and Richt are buddies Tony. The man has proven he can not compete with TODAY’S SEC. He is holding the program back, selfishly. Let him go try something else. It’s time for the Kyle Whittingham era at UGA.

FRED

November 2nd, 2010
10:48 am

TALK ABOUT EMOTION. TONY YOUR THE ONE WITH THE EMOTION. LIVING IN NEW JERSEY IN THE 1960 WITH SEASON TICKETS TO THE NEW YORK GIANTS I WITNESSED THE SAME KIND OF CORRUPT SPORT CASTER COVERAGE AS TONY IS DISPLAYING HERE. WHAT HAPPENS IS WHEN YOU GET A NICE GUY COACH LIKE CMR IS THE WRITERS GET CLOSE IT’S HARD NOT TO. THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT HAS HAPPEN HERE. ONCE THIS HAPPENS ALL OBJECTIVITY IS GONE. TONY YOU NEED TO TAKE ANOTHER LOOK AT YOUR RELATIONSHIP WITH CMR IT’S TO CLOSE. THAT SAID YOU OTHER UGA FANS IF YOU DONT MIND A SECOND TIER PROGRAM THAT PLAYS EVERY YEAR IN THE BROWN BOWL GAME AGAINST FURMAN UNIVERSITY YOU GO AHEAD AND ROOT FOR CMR. I ON THE OTHER HAND I WANT A WINNER SO I WILL NO LONGER ATTEND UGA GAMES UNTIL CMR IS GONE. WE NY GIANTS FANS HAD THE SAME PROBLEM IN THE EARLY 1960s WITH ALLIE SHERMAN AS OUR HEAD COACH ONLY WHEN WE STOPPED COMING TO THE GAMES DID MANAGEMENT TAKE ACTION AND FIRE A BAD COACH THE REST IS HISTORY.

ceph

November 2nd, 2010
10:49 am

Also, who in the hell annointed you Mr. College Football? It sounds like a self annointing to me, nobody else is so stupid as to annoint someone who knows less about more than you do about your chosen profession!!!!!

Wo Cares About jeorgia feetball

November 2nd, 2010
10:49 am

Yes Fire the BUM, Who cares about college football ? Boring, thug filled sport, tear down the stadium and eliminate it as a sport, watching grass grow is far more exciting than this stupid sport. See how you “fans” act at games, a disgrace !

Florida Fans for Richt

November 2nd, 2010
10:50 am

bruce mac, order up for table 6 in your section. this time don’t spill the tray on the customers please, for crying out loud.

ARdawg

November 2nd, 2010
10:50 am

“So I ask you: If Georgia’s Blair Walsh kicks the winning field goal in overtime instead of Florida’s Chas Henry, are we even having this discussion today? ”

The talking heads were having this discussion last year. This year started with the discussion and it has only gotten heavier and thicker since the 4 losses. Take the grossly underachievement, the arrests and the lack of preparation and lack of fundamentals and YES were are having this conversation today. The Bulldogs for the past 5 years get nothing but progressively worse. If one offensive player is out of the line up for 4 games and you equate that to the 4 losses you Tony have your head stuck up your butt and are ignoring the coaching fallacies. Giving Richt another year to “right the ship” with his history of the previous 5 years only prolongs the misery of the Bulldog Nation another year

jtdawg

November 2nd, 2010
10:52 am

Tony – there are a lot of conviences in your estimates.

YOu left out the pitiful Colorado loss.

Tou clearly state that last year’s team was poorly coached and yet you are so cheery about this year’s prospects when it was clearly untrue. Mark Richt had to come out 4 games ago and ADMIT that he did not properly prepare his team this spring, summer, and each game week.

THe Florida game was never going to convince me or other rational people that Richt has corrected problems that have allowed this program to slip into mediocrity. Why would beating Florida correct years of recruiting neglect? Recruiting issues on the Offensive line were well documented back to ‘06, when a spate of injuries/dropouts/dismissals left the line thin. Strenght and conditioning have been on a consistent decline since then as well.

More importantly, the leader and CEO of the program completely ignores trending metrics to identify strengths and weaknesses. It took an embarrassing spate of 30 and 40 point embarrassing performances and a damn near DawgNation revolt before he decided to look at the leadership of the defensive side of the team to address issues that trended poor performance all the way back to that 2006 season after the 2005 Sugar Bowl embarassment.

If it takes him 4 years to recognize a defficiency that was plainly obvious after 2, what convinces you the rest of the program is in safe hands?

Why are you condoning gutting the staff and/or slashing jobs to change just for the sake of change. If Richt, like you state Tony, is convinced the program is headed in the righ direction, then why will there be any changes at all? SHouldn’t we just ride it out and see where this team matures heading into ‘11?

Einstein stated that the definition of insanity is to continue to repeat the same actions with the expectations of different results. How is this any different?

Mark Richt is a good man and possibly a better role model. He has proven that he does not recruit character, and those he does bring in he has obviously missed on convincing them to maintain good, moral decisionmaking and discipline.

THis is systemic and to think otherwise is difficult to comprehend. The entire program lacks discipline, period. Discipline is not poured out of a bottle, it is manufactured from Day 1 of a recruit’s appearance. And it shows on the field.

Florida showed that the discipline is not a consistent in this program. Too many little things are left to chance.

Florida was definitely never going to be the definition of the mark of a turnaround of this program for Richt, but merely a stepping stone. He needed this to prove he can win the games he is supposed to. He was going to need to finish with 2 more wins and a near upset of Auburn at least, to prove that he had this team doing the things to live up to it’s potential.

All he proved is he still cannot get this team to do what it needs consistently to be anything more than an occasional success.

True DAWG

November 2nd, 2010
10:53 am

you left our Colarado! Only reason I want to keep him is might could give Grantham another year

Get Over It

November 2nd, 2010
10:53 am

Mississippi St is the REAL BULLDOGS on the SEC. The GA Bulldogs are now 2nd Teir and will always be.

ARdawg

November 2nd, 2010
10:56 am

jtdawg

+2

Excellent post

Urban

November 2nd, 2010
10:59 am

You are right, keep Mark around. He is my bee otch. LOL

UGAgirlFAN

November 2nd, 2010
11:00 am

Tony Now we are talking….Get that other WRITER Mark what his name OUT! You make more sense and on more what you are talking about -the facts! Positive facts! Kudos to you! UF ONLY won that game due to our errors not because they were a better team or better coached! CMR is good for us maybe slow to make changes to the coaching staff, like there should be in the offense, but He is the best Coach we have had since Coach Dooley in my opinion- who else would we get?!!!! He show class, integrity and commands respect. In response to the players and their off campus stunts, what is he supposed to do- Babysit them 24/7? No, he can guide them by example and set the rules!!! It is like this: we all have a Bible (this is for those of us that are Christians or not) with the 10 Commandments, but God has also given us a freedom of choice even though he has taught us right from wrong-wel my point is, the situation is like that, they had their “Bible/Rule Book” and choices and now they have their consequences! Who is to say that CMR is not tough enough? EXCUSE me but were you in the actual room with him and the player when he is handing down the punishment? WOW! You must be honored then!!!! You cannot judge anyone period, have you heard that saying until you have walked a mile in their shoes!!!!! Yes-I am pro-CMR and pro-UGA!!!!! I love them Dawgs even when the chips are down because I KNOW I am a true fan who bleeds red and black- can you say that people? Can you support them unconditionally?!!!!

Internet Coaches

November 2nd, 2010
11:03 am

FIRE VINCE DOOLEY!!! This would have been the demands in 1970 from the fans, media, blogs, internet articles had they existed after two 5 loss seasons in a row. Thanks Gawd they didn’t! Good thing all of you know what it takes to be a great coach! You sound like Gator Fans last week. They wanted to fire a coach who won them TWO National Championships the last four years. Pathetic!

ARdawg

November 2nd, 2010
11:03 am

girlfan,

You need to put down the kool-aid and the crack pipe

what of it?

November 2nd, 2010
11:06 am

perhaps the better question is: Why has the team regressed at all? Why wasn’t everything put on the table last season after such a dismal performance? Why are we always caught without a quarterback when one graduates? Why are there STILL so many miscues? Why did we ever run practice without contact? Perhaps most important: WHY THE HELL DOES EVERYONE KEEP DEFENDING MEDIOCRITY?

Hugh Howard

November 2nd, 2010
11:09 am

Well written Tony. I graduated UGA in 71. I have never gotten use to losing to FL.or anyone else. I guess I’m a throwback since I still miss Coach Dooley on the sideline. Mark Richt has character. He is a man of integrity. He will straighten out the problem at UGA. I would hate to see a knee jerk reaction to this season cause us to go backwards. A coaching change does not gaurantee success

GStateBen

November 2nd, 2010
11:09 am

Stick with Richt as long as you want but your championship days are over. No player development, no discipline on or off the field.

That 2008 season (10 wins) included a win over FCS Georgia Southern and Central Michigan of the MAC. Not exactly a rugged schedule.

It’s called a program in decline – FBS wins in 2008 – 9, 2009 – 7, 2010 – 4.

What happens when Georgia has 4 losses by Halloween in 2011? Will this same article be written?

High Times Tider

November 2nd, 2010
11:11 am

With the talent and resources the University of Georgia has at its disposal year in and year out, there is absolutely NO excuse for it not being THE flagship football program in the SEC. Only Florida and LSU come close in these departments. Florida battles two other national powers every year for its recruits and LSU has the pick of the litter of a much smaller talent base. Georgia Tech is pretty much a non-factor. UGA has everything it needs to be a dominant power on the national level. The right coach is all it would take. Yes, Richt has done some good things. But he hasn’t come close to fulfilling that program’s potential.

jtdawg

November 2nd, 2010
11:11 am

Also,

There just might be an option that new AD Greg McGarity could be convinced is better, more equiped to hanlde the pressures of a top tier team.

This coach, I would bet anything, was absolutely tabbed to replace Urban Meyer if he HAD decided to coach.

He has done MORE WITH LESS than anyone in the country.

He has PROVEN he can be better, more talented teams.

AND he has proven he can do something that Richt cannot – consistently play with, and even BEAT the Mighty Gators.

Care to guess who Tony??

UGAgirlFAN

November 2nd, 2010
11:13 am

ARdawg! What the H* has kool-aid and the crack pipe have anything to do with what I wrote? I neither drink Kool-aid, hate the stuff nor have I ever done drugs! Why get so defensive and personal , too close to home?

Mobile Dawg

November 2nd, 2010
11:14 am

You may have consumed a bit to much of the kool aid yourself Tony. Surely one as versed as you in analyzing college football can’t have as short a memory as you have indicated with this column.

Opinions, everyone has one. You have only scratched the surface with this analysis, and defense of Mark Richt. You have to peel that onion Tony, layer by layer to get to the root cause of the problems. You have ignored the foundational problems that have plagued the Dawgs since 2005. A total lack of discipline, teaching, coaching that has defined this programs problems, i.e. penalties, lack of focus, dropped passes, getting blown out of key games because we weren’t prepared to play, etc. We could go on and on and on but alas, I’ve spent enough of my time on these blogs lately. About the only thing this staff has done reasonably well at is recruiting, if you rely on the rankings from Rivals and Scout.

One thing you said is right, if we’re stuck with CMR then we need a much smarter, motivated supporting cast of characters to surround him with.

Personally, I don’t think we’re stuck with him. He loses to AU, and GT, the fire gets much hotter. Let’s watch his coaching decisions the next few weeks and have this discussion again using facts instead of your opinions.

Like I said yesterday, the masses are tired of this crap. The process has started to replace CMR. There is a battle brewing which may divide Dawg Nation for a while but a very substancial group wants CMR gone.

Between, GA

November 2nd, 2010
11:15 am

Spot on Tony. I want him to stay and I believe we are on an upswing. Even with the loss in Jacksonville you could sense that the mystique surrounding the gators was gone.

Burma Shave

November 2nd, 2010
11:15 am

I’ve seen the good

I’ve seen the bad

To see Richt still in Athens

Makes me so sad.

Burma Shave

Ron Roberts

November 2nd, 2010
11:15 am

I tend to agree with you Tony, after a couple of days to digest the game. The team IS playing well now, four turnovers notwithstanding. Two of those came at the hands of a freshman “amped up” quarterback who will be a star in the next year or two, I believe. His receivers didn’t help him on the other two.

But by and large, this team is playing well, playing as a team, and showing signs of improvement week-to-week. It’s important that they absorb the loss and then forget about it. Plenty left to play for, and one of our biggest rivals needs to be knocked down a peg before Bama gets to do it. That – to me – is our “national championship.”

I’d like to see, in the off-season, a sort of “audit” of the program, from a Bill Parcells-type mind. I think McGarity will do (or probably has or IS doing) something along those lines, anyhow, but sometimes an outside perspective (maybe the A.D. still has that) wouldn’t hurt.

Bobo called a great game, Grantham’s defense is showing signs of improvement (don’t look at the points – look at the yardage & remember the turnovers and special teams put them in short fields to defend a lot Saturday) and aside from the potential losses of A.J., Chapas, Dent, Dobbs, Durham, Gamble, Munzenmaier, and Houston, a healthy core comes back. We see names go away all the time, and other names step in. We’re not dying on the vine, and I think Saturday showed that the talent gap isn’t that big between Georgia and Florida. Next year’s schedule sets up nicely, too (see: http://www.georgiadogs.com/sports/m-footbl/sched/m-footbl-sched-2011.html). Tell me you don’t envision a 10-or more win season out of that.

Glenn

November 2nd, 2010
11:19 am

Its all about winning . Bear Bryant was famous for getting drunk & beating his wife & players . No one cares . He was a winner . UGA girl fan , unconditional love ? Come on woman !!

jtdawg

November 2nd, 2010
11:19 am

UGAgirlFAN -

Not only do I support my team through thick and thin, I actually want them to IMPROVE and do better. How about you?

Nope. Most are so scared of change that you’d rather be middle tier than risking being great. Sure.

I’ll watch Richt coach for the next 25 years if that’s what you lemmings will watch. Unfortunately, we’ll have to deal with Gator holes screaming about 22 out of 25, 26 out of 30, 31 out of 36… just like you lemmings.

Baaahhhhh Baaaahhhhhh Baaahhhhh

alphacat93

November 2nd, 2010
11:20 am

As someone that is not a UGa fan, I will say it is time for Mark Richt to go. While Richt has been a 10-win coach and is a dramatic improvement over Jim Donnan, he was brought to Athens to win SEC championships and contend for BCS titles. He’s done the former, but not the latter. It doesn’t seem he’s going to be the coach to take the Dawgs to the next step of BCS title contention. And, there is the fact that his players can not stay out of trouble. Georgia needs to change things up. The program needs a jolt and Richt is not the man to do it.

ceph is a bitter cynic

November 2nd, 2010
11:20 am

ceph

You don’t like Tony’s blog don’t read it. Save your hatred for the Wal-Mart cashiers.

Dean Vernon Wormer, Faber College

November 2nd, 2010
11:21 am

Here are your words, Tony: It must be done with a certain analytical detachment that sees exactly what the situation is and, if necessary, come up with the BEST possible option to fix it.

You are not detached, TB. You are biased. You are a UGA grad and way too much of a homer. Why don’t you guys have the guts to print somebody’s else’s professional opinion, who really IS detached. Bradley just tries to stir the pot with his incessant parenthetical juvenilistic phrases. So neither one of you is capable of giving us a detached opinion.

If you were not a UGA grad, Tony, would you be saying the same thing.

Here’s the problem: Players and recruits communicate with each other constantly, no matter where they are and who they play for, or who they might play for. That network, fair or not, is based on how those players feel about a program and its head coach. Look at what happened at FSU with Papa Bowden and still at Penn State when the players just won’t play for the head coach any more. The players want to know that their coach will put them in a position to win conferenced and national titles.

Georgia is an also-ran right now in national college football discussions. Every year Mark Richt stays there will set the program back two more years, because of the losses in recruiting GA will suffer. When you’re down in a hole, you don’t keep digging to get yourself out.

Fire CMR now and pay the highest salary in the country to get the best coach in the country.

jtdawg

November 2nd, 2010
11:22 am

Ron -

Same thing they were saying about this year…..

Richt had “special year” written all over this one….

The only excuses being a RS Frosh QB and 1st year DC -

Oh but NEXT year…..

No wonder others around the country make fun of us with that statement…

We are in our 3rd consecutive rebuilding year. When will be rebuilt?

James

November 2nd, 2010
11:23 am

The most senseable non biased point of view that I’ve seen on this issue..Thank Tony

jtdawg

November 2nd, 2010
11:26 am

alphacat93

Here is something Mr College Football will NOT acknowledge…

Richt was BETTER with Donnan’s talent than he has been with his own….

joe

November 2nd, 2010
11:28 am

All I see are more pansy ass excuses. According to Tony Barnhart, Georgia will have to suffer through five or six more Godawful seasons before we’re allowed to send Mark Richt packing.

jellybeandawg

November 2nd, 2010
11:29 am

The Lunatic Fringe Richt apologists/defenders will do anything they can to protect and defend him.

DO NOT LET THEM FOOL YOU! They care little if any about the program, and use it only as a guise to further their CULT of Mark Richt agenda.

Their loyalty is to Mark Richt, not UGA.

Ace

November 2nd, 2010
11:29 am

You UGA fans are dilutional and funny, keep praying you too may win the lottery on the next ticket. What a sinking ship.

Justafan

November 2nd, 2010
11:33 am

Time to stop the BS about firing Coach Richt. Get your A@@ out there and support your team and Coach and help instead of hurting UGA.

Vote the Real Deal today…

BAMA dude

November 2nd, 2010
11:33 am

A lot of these comments support Stewart Mandel’s take on UGA when he said “In all my travels, I’m not sure I’ve ever come across a fan base whose self-perception is so far from reality. Georgia fashions itself a national power in the vein of Ohio State, USC, et. al., based primarily off one glorious three-year run 30 years ago with Herschel Walker (and some kick-butt years in the 1940s). Prior to this season, the Dawgs under Richt had vastly outperformed their historical “equilibrium,” and in fact Richt’s career winning percentage (.752) is the highest in school history (not counting Bobby Winston’s lone 5-1 season in 1894).”

Richt is the best UGA has ever had, including Dooley. If you recall, Dooley had the benefit of a weak Florida program for much of his tenure. Dooley won 71.5% of his games, 68.6% without Herschel. Richt has now won 74.6%. Yes, they are trending downward, but can you seriously fire the most successful coach in program history? I would think you’d have to wait until his overall winning percentage fell to at least second place.

Smoke

November 2nd, 2010
11:33 am

Way to go Tony….There does needs to be a coaching change….FIRE Mike BOOBOO, oops did I say that!! Yes I did…This is the SEC and it’s time to get back to playing HARD NOSE MAN UP FOOTBALL!!!! Stop being Mr. NICE GUY Mark Richt and lets win games in the trenches!!!

jtdawg

November 2nd, 2010
11:33 am

at least we don’t root for a Trade School team with a high school offense..

Ace should get a GED

November 2nd, 2010
11:34 am

UGA fans are “dilutional” and funny

LMAO!

Hedgepruner

November 2nd, 2010
11:34 am

I told all you THUGA homers that there is a new sheriff in town , Paul Johnson and he would win a National Championship every other year with the talent MR has, I love to see the Walmart fanbase “self implode” it makes my day , see you in athens Nov 27th and we are going to kick some hydrant humpers and they will surely be wanting to replace the FSU protege after that !! THWG !!!!! your pathetic !!

jtdawg

November 2nd, 2010
11:34 am

Justafan…

just like you’ll keep voting democrats hoping for something good, right?…

Cyber-Smoke

November 2nd, 2010
11:35 am

Tony, in a lot of ways I don’t disagree with your argument. But like others have said, it leaves out some key points.

I think Richt’s job at UGA has to come down to what the university is comfortable with.

If it’s comfortable with beating up on bad teams and winning close to 10 games each year, yet never truly being elite or beating better head coaches like Meyer and Saban, then keep Richt.

If it was my program, I would not be comfortable with that, not with the level of recruiting class Georgia gets each year.

jtdawg

November 2nd, 2010
11:39 am

WhoTF is Stewart Mandell and why do we care??

Let’s see – I’d say we have a fine and proud tradition here. Spend more time thumping your chest about your own school on your own damn blogs instead of coming here thinking you are saying something meaningful.. because you are not.

All of you non-hackers are the same – keep yelling and screaming the same crap in hopes this program sleeps for decades in mediocrity, because ALL of you know the last thing you want is to have to deal with this program operating at maximum potential.

Focus on your own football teams, losers. Nobody asked you…

Sideline Observer

November 2nd, 2010
11:39 am

Tony – I disagree with you. Here are my reasons.

1- Too many off the field problems. (See number 2)

2- We seem to sign most of the players we go after. Yet too many of them do not materialize and develope into “great” players. When Alabama, LSU and Florida offers someone, we should go and offer the same guy. Perhaps we don’t need a “recruiting coordinator.” We have got to sign better PEOPLE!

3- Our OL is the most experienced in the nation in terms of starts. Number one! Yet we can not dominate other teams, and “drive the ball down their throats!” Our pass blaocking is horendous. I seriously question the ability of our OL coaches.

4- Apparently our strength and conditioning program is lacking. We often have too many injuries, ham string type things and never seem to be as strong as our opponents, or in as good of a “game conditon” as some.

5- The best RB’s in the state seem to go elsewhere. Why?

Alphare

November 2nd, 2010
11:40 am

UGA, there is a good crop of coaches out there in case you need one, like Dan Mullin, who is really close to home.

PaulyD

November 2nd, 2010
11:41 am

All you have to do is look at it like this – how many coaches on the UGA staff have been contacted for other head coaching jobs/promotions/etc? Whats that deafening silence? Yeah thats right none, zippo, nada. I think that tells you all you need to know about the current staff. I hate change but good lord enough is enough.

jtdawg

November 2nd, 2010
11:42 am

Hedgehumper – Paul’s Johnson can’t even beat your stupid ACC teams, what makes you think you can talk smack to anybody?

Start winning more than once a decade against us, then come back and talk smack, otherwise mommy says she wants her computer back now…. so go upstairs and eat your PB&J and just lay down for nappy time like a good little boy…

MadMatt

November 2nd, 2010
11:42 am

I agree with you Tony as I just can’t bring myself to the “fire Coach Richt” side of the argument. Rest assured no Georgia fan is hurting as much as I am….but that said, I don’t think you should fire a coach for an emotional loss. This has been a tough year, but with Murray progressing and I do think the Grantham defense is improving and will continue to do so, the future is bright. Moreover, I don’t believe Coach Richt “got stupid” all of a sudden. He’s still a lot better than his predecessors and I firmly believe he’s better than any outsider we could bring in to start over. We’ve been down this road before and a little patience is worth the investment…

Justafan

November 2nd, 2010
11:42 am

Nothing good there my son!
Talking Coaches and politics is two different things.
Barnes has been there and didn’t product. You wouldn’t go back and hire Donnan would you..what ever.

BAMA dude

November 2nd, 2010
11:43 am

jtdawg

November 2nd, 2010
11:39 am
WhoTF is Stewart Mandell and why do we care??

He is a writer for ESPN, and this is a “College Football” blog. Yes, Tony is speaking about UGA today but that doesn’t make this a UGA blog. I notice that you didn’t answer the question- Can you really justify firing the most successful coach in your school’s history? Because that is exactly what Mark Richt is. Maybe you can, but it seems tough to justify and there’s not a lot of precedent.

HotDawg

November 2nd, 2010
11:43 am

Enter your comments here

Mike Smith

November 2nd, 2010
11:44 am

I agree. I say keep him. The defense is on the upward climb. From near last in the league the last two years, they are 6th in the SEC in scoring and 4th overall. The biggest concern is the off-the-field arrests and problems. Those cost UGA the start of this season. Had this team gotten everyone on the field from game one on, they have at worst 3 losses right now.

My other concern is offensive coordinator. I like Mike Bobo to an extent, but his tendency to bottle up the offense into play-action is maddening. He got predictable again in the UF game in OT. Throw deep, run up the gut, and then drop back for disaster…just like in the Arkansas game. For once, I would like to see him use the short screens or quick slants or roll out and dump to the TE. Instead he opts for predictability at key moments in the ballgame.

The coaches all need to improve, but I do that the future looks better than it did this time last year. Richt has earned the right to fix this.

OldFan

November 2nd, 2010
11:44 am

Tony, your next to last paragraph is exactly right. There are major areas for this program to address. CMR is under contract thru 2013. Firing him now, or any time short of his contract term, is too disruptive unless he completely fails to fuel the upward trend by looking hard at his staff and making the tough decisions. Then, CMR’s great failing would not be his won/loss record, but his inability or unwillingness to do his real job.

UGAgirlFAN

November 2nd, 2010
11:44 am

jtdawg and jellybeandawg
FIRST jtdawg because you were the nicest of the two, if that is possible, there was no need for name calling. I am not a lemming-I too want the best for UGA and I was only stating my opinion like you did.
AS FOR YOU JELLYBEANDAWG WHO WROTE:
“UGAgirlFAN is obviously a Mark Richt apologist & religious wacko zealot. Fans like her are the reason UGA will continue to swim in Mediocrity.

She and her elk are a cancerous, disguting tumor to the program. Her main agenda/priority is to Mark Richt, Not TO UGA.

The truth is these Richt apologists care very little for the good of the program and choose to put a man ahead of the good of the program . They are no different then the same type of wakos that followed Jim Jones.”
MY RESPONSE TO YOU!
Yes, I am a Christian NOT a wacko Zealot! Never followed Jim Jones, in fact never heard of him until he made the news and even then did not agree with him!!!!! I consider this whole comment as a personal attack to my character and just plain mean, you do not even know me! You however have showed yourself very well and are a person with issues that go beyond counseling! All I can say is get help you rude person, mean spirited person!

jwilli120

November 2nd, 2010
11:47 am

in the last 5yrs without donnans players why should he keep
his 3 million dollar a year job? oh wait until next year to
to find out, that puts us another year behind everybody in
the SEC again, if bobo isn’t demoted or fired after the
season then next year is now, i’m tired of being the laughing
stock of college football, even the two commentators asked
what is going on with UGA in the UF game, they see it and we
don’t…..COME ON MAN… EBAY Green knew what he was doing
and knew it would hurt the team but he did what he did anyway
no reguard for the TEAM…not enough TEAM PLAYERS… if you
have a chance to be great you train to be great we UGA train
to be just good…memories of the gut wrenching loss to UF
should be everywhere in all of the UGA facilities and the
team should be reminded of the loss everyday until they get
back to JAX next year with revenge on thier minds.. i wonder
if any of this takes place..all recruits coming in should also
be in the same frame of mind…2011 REDEMPTION. Train like you
have never trained before, SLOGAN: TRAIN TO BE GREAT IN 2011,
i would like to hear the coaches say WOW the guys TRAINED TO BE
GREAT and came into camp in the BEST SHAPE OF THIER LIVES, these
guys didn’t take any time off(partying and getting arrested)
the spent the offseason conditioning to be great, washuan and
caleb need to take dance lessons for good balance and get in
supreme shape become gym rats and not rug rats, wideouts spend
the offseason with your QB get to know his tendecies, become
a Great Team, all the stuff mentioned is COACHING…….
DARE TO BE GREAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

BAMA dude

November 2nd, 2010
11:48 am

For once, I would like to see him use the short screens or quick slants or roll out and dump to the TE. Instead he opts for predictability at key moments in the ballgame.

Football offenses are like women’s hair color- blondes want dark hair, brunettes want blonde. Bama fans have been up in arms because we never seem to throw deep, always trying screens and quick routes.

JMac12203

November 2nd, 2010
11:49 am

jtdawg, yep, and your pups are going to HAVE to beat that trade school to get bowl eligible this season, which might not be as easy as you think. Neither team has very much defense, and it looks like another 45-42 shootout. Whoever has the ball last wins. Remember, your pups did not beat Tech last year, Tech beat Tech with the dropsies. I am sure all puppy fans were hoping for a miricle, because CWM and his defense were getting pushed all over the field in the 4th qtr. That high school offense was whipping their tails, until the drop by Thomas. My girlfriend, who is an avid puppy dog fan, flatly told me the best team lost that day. This season, it appears both teams are about even. Let’s see how it plays out.

Paul Midler

November 2nd, 2010
11:49 am

Aiken Chicken

November 2nd, 2010
11:49 am

Do not fire Mark Richt. It has taken us a while to pass UGA and we are looking forward to that easy win in the next several years.

Justafan

November 2nd, 2010
11:50 am

UGAGIRLFAN..u tell’um…I admire your opinion . Your religion and Coach Richts religion has nothing to do with Coaching and his job.

rodney

November 2nd, 2010
11:52 am

i had called for coach richts firing earlier but ive changed my mind, i wasnt looking at the big picture. i know he is gonna turn things around im 100% supportive of him. i would like to see the dawgs be more aggressive on the field and less aggressive off the field

jellybeandawg

November 2nd, 2010
11:52 am

UGAgirlFAN YOU are the one who decided to bring religion into a football discussion. The truth is your religious views have no place in football so if you don’t like the criticism then you should leave your faith out of the discussion.

Whether Mark Richt is a Christian or worships goats has no bearing on his lousy performance over the last 5 years.

Ron Roberts

November 2nd, 2010
11:54 am

jtdawg, allow me:

Richt had “special year” written all over this one…. Who said that? Who said we’d come out and DEFINITELY win at USC and at home to Arkansas, with said freshman QB and new defensive scheme? I don’t recall too many people saying that, out the gate. Throw in the loss of A.J.Green and those were definite losses. Let’s remember how good those two teams are and how close we came to beating them DESPITE the above-mentioned deficiencies.

We are in our 3rd consecutive rebuilding year. When will be rebuilt? Listen, you and I both know Rome wasn’t built in a day, and it takes even longer to clean up a landfill – aka Willie Martinez’ defense. Under-performing knuckleheads like Ben Jones and Vance Cuff have to be gotten rid of (and that’s coming).

Here’s my question… you fire Richt, then who do you go get? No matter WHO you get, there will be transfers and a 2-3 year window of upheaval, so if you’re tired of losing, you’re going the wrong way towards alleviating that.

I pin this downward trend on a bad batch of recruits that are currently being filtered out as we speak.

At the start of 2011, we return with a quarterback who plays “special,” an offensive line that’s playing SOLID, a handful of RBs that all have terrific skills, if not one “spectacular” back, two TE’s (Orson, coming into his own, now) that are playmakers, and while we’ll more than likely lose A.J. Green, a talented WR corp (and a couple of really good recruits committed, too) that will serve us well. Throw in a defense playing a scheme that WORKED against Florida (remember, the short field on turnovers and special teams’ inability to stuff returns) that will come with a better knowledge of the 3-4 scheme, and I think we’re going to be fine.

No matter your opinion – CMR’s done enough to warrant the opportunity, and I’m willing to give to him, if for no other reason – I care not to go through what Tennessee has, after this and last season for us.

I see an improving team, though; the stats bear it out. Your passion doesn’t eliminate stats.

if ifs and buts were cookies and nuts we'd have a merry christmas

November 2nd, 2010
11:54 am

tony….your very article shows why we need a change.

if…tennessee doesn’t win v. uk.
if…player’s don’t get injured….
but….
if….

how about this? why did uga go to knoxville that year and get their butts beat into the ground?

why, when the whole world knew that we were going to come out preseason #1, didn’t the uga coaching staff do a better job of protecting their players against injury and arrests?

i’m sorry, but you, buck belue, bill king and the rest of the blogosphere are nothing but mark richt apologists.

you gloss over the simple fact that we have been unable to perform at a consistently high level of intensity for 12 games a year…..we take a game or two off….and scramble at the last minute to either win or just barely lose.

why, if mark richt would just get a few “breaks,” things might be different. He needs more time….he has gotten bad breaks…..etc. I could unearth the same things that were probably said about Jim Donnan at the end of his reign.

the simple fact is this….after 9 years, UGA is no better off than it was after 5 years of jim donnan….and in some aspects (mike bobo’s stupid playcalling…our td percentage in the red zone is below the national AVERAGE) (arrests) worse.

a change needs to be made. i say mcgarity tells richt that he needs to see significant improvement next year…..and that improvement needs to be measurable in statistics and wins and losses, not in ifs buts and maybes.

.

November 2nd, 2010
11:54 am

It has abearing on yours, jelly

bugsquacher

November 2nd, 2010
11:55 am

I thought last off season was the time to put everything on the table….. How many years to we have to listen to the excuses before this program is completely run in the ground? Georgia will go 5-7 this year. They will beat Idaho State. They will get embarrassed by Auburn on National TV and with tears in my eyes, they will lose to Tech. Get ready Dawg fans, its going to be a long offseason. And just think, for a team that brought back the entire offense except the quarterback…… what a shame….. I dont think we are going to be better off in the next few years keeping Richt around. Its time to make the change…. That is if we want to play for National Championships…….. Its a shame…. a damn shame…

Beast from the East

November 2nd, 2010
11:55 am

SERIOUS QUESTION,
Does anyone actually believe that Richt will be there in 2012? I can’t recall any coach under this much scrutiny making it thorugh it more than a year or two, can you? I don’t think it’s a question of “if” he goes anymore, but “when”. Your thoughts?

jtdawg

November 2nd, 2010
11:56 am

BAMA dude –

Again, why is Mandell important to us? Oh he’s not. ANd yes, I conceded Mr. Barnhardt isn’t strictly UGA.

But absolutely yes you can justify his firing and I can do it in one fell swoop -

2007 – Mark Richt became the 6th highest paid coach in all of college football.

Record – 22 – 13 (roughly 40th or so since…)

That right there is enough…. He just isn’t earning it, not to mention a myriad of metrics that show underperformance, underachievement, or whatever.

I don’t give two damns about what any other fan thinks we should be happy with. Bama didn’t have crap for nearly two decades, we KNOW how frustrating it is, but just because you had Bryant doesn’t mean you are the only people who expect excellence. I’ll be damned.

Successful entities aren’t made by listening to retarded opinions written by outsiders and direct competitors.

So with all due respect to you and your team Bama Stan, when it comes to THIS opinion, you can go spit.

What would you/did you feel if/when other people would have come to you 4/5 years ago and argued – “You haven’t been sqat since Bryant retired, just be happy to win 8 games with Shula and be quiet – nobody expects anything from you. Stop thinking this is 1972 for crying out loud… yada, yada, yada…”

Not so funny when the shoe is on the other foot. But what do you care? Again, the last thing you or any UF/SC/TN/AU fan want to see is UGA performing at it’s maximum. QUite the contrary, it would make for an excellent SEC…..so get over it, stop being biased and look at the facts…..

A BIG Barnhart fan

November 2nd, 2010
11:56 am

Excellent article. Why did Mr. Barnhart not address the off field issues and how they relate to the situation? Mr. Barnhart, can you correlate the impact of the “extra-curricular” (bad behavior and arrests) activities of the players off the field to gameday performance of the team? What should the coaching staff’s implications be, if any in this matter? When a player is recruited, they are not just an athelete, but an ambassador of the institution they attend. Coach Richt is a good and decent man with great character, of that, there is little doubt. The question I pose is; shouldn’t a great program be built upon great people, including coaches, players, fans, and administration?

jellybeandawg

November 2nd, 2010
11:57 am

justafan,
UGAGIRLFAN was the one who wanted to bring her religion and the bible into the discussion, not me.

Like you I agree that Richts religion has nothing to do with Coaching or his job and it has no bearing on the discussion.

jtdawg

November 2nd, 2010
11:57 am

Sorry, I references Bama Stan, and meant Bama Dude.

Can’t ever remember Bama Stan being this obnoxious.

JMac12203

November 2nd, 2010
11:57 am

And on CMR, I have stated for years that he is a good coach, but not a leader that will lead the pups to the NC. It ain’t gonna happen. They are like the Braves in that they have had worlds of talent, but do less with more than any other team in the SEC. If Meyer, Saban, Spurrier, Miles, and even Mullen coached all that talent, UGA would be a force in college football, but as it stands, you have all kinds of talent, and are, at best, the 8th best team in the SEC, and a laughing stock. Are you even favored to beat Idaho St. this week????

G8R GRAD

November 2nd, 2010
11:58 am

3rdn8:

Your 8:24 post was well put.

Mike Bobo 17 INT

November 2nd, 2010
12:00 pm

Tony, love the post and please keep CMR around as long as you can, we love CMR and wish him the best.

Signed:

Urban Meyer
Les Miles
Nick Saban
Mack Brown
Steve Spurrier

jtdawg

November 2nd, 2010
12:02 pm

UGAgirlFAN

- You are correct and I owe you a serious apology.

I do get frustrated with the ‘follow the sheppard’ crowd. I am in business management, and I, justifiably, compare our team to how a coporation should be mananged, with consistent, non-stop evaluation, and I just see repeated failure.

I am afraid, quite opposite of some, that the worst scenario is we make NO change and accept status quo. As much as I would like to believe Ricth can turn it around, I just see no evidence.

If it were to happen, I will gladly apologize to anyone offended by the thought process, but can never stop criticizing what I deem as failures directly laid at the feet of the head of our program.

Again – I apologize to you as I certainly meant no overt offense. I just hope people make judgement based on sound fact, not overt hopefulness…

Mike Bobo 17 INT

November 2nd, 2010
12:04 pm

Tony, do us all a favor and quit claiming to be Mr. College Football and change your name to Mr. Georgia Football. You are not objective, unlike Howard, Herbstreit and even Corso (more professional outlets) set themseleves apart from their home teams.

If you really are Mr. College football, you would know that the Athens program is tanked/broken. You will not fire CMR, because Athens has already tested the waters with Kirby Smart and Will Muschamp, who both gave Athens the middle finger. They are with superior programs and already know around most coaching circles that the UGA program has major flaws, which you fail to address. Good luck with that one.

1eyedJack

November 2nd, 2010
12:05 pm

I just thank God that none of you kneejerk b@$tard$ are in charge.

Mike Bobo 17 INT

November 2nd, 2010
12:06 pm

jtdawg

Love your comment and you make this most sense on this page. How many more rebuilding years does UGA need? Florida was in the top 10 for several weeks, and this is one of their worst years!

That is what I am driving at, no one in Athens has a clue, which starts from your AD and works down. Look Dooley gave you one title, but he has tanked this program with 2 terrible coaching hires (Donnan and Goff), but everyone thinks Dooley is God. Get over it and gut the program.

jtdawg

November 2nd, 2010
12:07 pm

Mac12203

While I agree with your view on this year’s game, the thoughts about last year are off – base.

Yes, our defense for several years have been a sieve, for sure and yes, things were kept very interesting. But quite frankly, UGA ran right over, through and around Tech. It shouldn’t have been as close as it was. There was nothing Tech was going to do to stop UGA and I’m sorry but at no time did I feel the “better” team lost, and that is meant as no disrespect to a good Tech team that went to the Orange bowl. You guys just were’nt the best that night.

This year? Sure could be different. Who Knows? I actually respect Paul Johnson a great deal and think he’s doing a fine job there. It’ll be fun, as always.

Disappointed Dog

November 2nd, 2010
12:08 pm

If GA fans have no expectation of ever playing in a BCS championship game, Richt is the man for the job. After 10 years he is no closer to playing for the national championship than the day he first set foot on the UGA campus.

CalGatorBrotha

November 2nd, 2010
12:10 pm

I am Gator here…its so funny how schools quickly wanna get rid of their coaches..us in the Gator Nation included…but sometimes you get a bad mix of what you wish for….jus ask Notre Dame the last 10 years….how is that working….so to you Dawg fans…whats out there much better…are you gonna get a retread or some up and coming assistant coach…..who would you want….some schools have lucked up so far….take the Oregon’s or Boise’s and even the Auburn deal is doin well for now…but time will tell…..so you gonna ask yourself the same

Whopper Dawg

November 2nd, 2010
12:11 pm

Your argument is the last four weeks and hypotheticals about how the FLA game might have turned out? That is weak sauce. The program has been in decline for the last three years and is hitting a low this year with possibly missing a bowl game, but best case you are at 6 – 6. Right now, I can argue pretty convincingly that UGA is the eight best program in the SEC. Is that where you want to be?

I would be surprised if Richt is not back again next year, but ask yourself Tony, what is a good year next year, 8 – 4, 7 – 5, both would be improvements, but while we are mired back in the pack, at least 4 SEC teams compete for national championships with the improvement of Auburn and we should be content with beating Vandy and a low ebb TN team. What if Kentucky doesn’t turn the ball over? They would have beaten us two years in a row, what does that tell you?

"Da Real" Damon Evans

November 2nd, 2010
12:12 pm

hahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

Toni you real funny.

hahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
:)

UGAgirlFAN

November 2nd, 2010
12:13 pm

Thank you so much jtdawg, you unlike others are a gentleman and I will be the first to admit as I have with Greg McGarity in a letter to him as a CMR supporter if CMR does not make changes then whatever he decides I am behind him !!!!

4everdawg

November 2nd, 2010
12:13 pm

Finally, some sanity and sense in the mess. The “fans” keep jumping ship and trying to coach the team. True fans should be there through the good and the bad. As I recall, preseason this was being called a “rebuilding year.” Rebuilding years are not undefeated teams. It takes time to learn new systems and we DO have a freshman QB, no matter how good he’s BECOMING. Lay off, “fans.” It will get better.

"Da Real" Damon Evans

November 2nd, 2010
12:13 pm

Toni what’s up with these new blogs? 1 step forward 1 step backward.

azdawg

November 2nd, 2010
12:15 pm

How many chances does he get???? CMR is responsible for his coaches and whether or not they’re making corrections to their game in order to right the wrongs they’re doing game after game that results in losing efforts.. Have you seen the DC, Grantham, add more linemen or blitzes in order to stop teams that run the option or clog the middle? Has the DC taken notice how MSU, LSU stopped FL’s running game? If your current crop of linemen can’t do it w/4down why not try 5??? Its the same week after week. They stink at 3rd down and long because they do not pressure the opposing QB. I see no difference in this new def scheme then the one soft willle ran at GA.

Bottom line is if Richt doesn’t force change it won’t come. If what they’re doing on D doesn’t appear to work while other coaches have success w/their defense why not try something different? When FL broke the long run to make the score 31 to 24, GA used 4 down linemen. All season that has failed in critical situations when we needed to stop the other team. One more LB or linemen on the front might have made the difference. When you see something that clearly has failed week after week w/o learning from it then its time for change at the top. If Richt can’t see this then he does not deserve to be a head coach at any level.

South Ga Dawg

November 2nd, 2010
12:16 pm

I personally like Coach Richt and think he should be around for a while, but whover evaluated our running backs need to re evaluate their criteria for a solid SEC back. I was at Fla game and sat high enough up to see our line was opening holes for these two guys, but thier vision and acceleration are horrible. Even Fla fan sittin next to me said man he is slow he should have taking that on to the house with that hole open. Zero acceleration out of them too.

"Da Real" Damon Evans

November 2nd, 2010
12:18 pm

Toni Marc Richt is a second tier coach who beat third tier coaches for several seasons with Jim Donan’s players.

Now that the coaching pool has improved in the SEC he is being exposed for the fraud that he is.

jwilli120

November 2nd, 2010
12:18 pm

what will it say about our program if GENE CHEZNIK or how
ever you spell his name (could be etchedon NC trophy) win
it all this year (2nd year on the job)vs 10yrs of CMR

picassokat

November 2nd, 2010
12:18 pm

Internet Coaches Great analogy. “Fire Vince Dooley!!!” was the chant of many during the 70s. It reached a fevered pitch at the end of the decade. It was much louder than we are hearing now, actually even without the internet. There was heavy pressure on UGA to fire Dooley after the ‘79 season UGA stood behind Dooley and we all know what the very next season. How UGA responded to the ‘79 pressure to dump Dooley says a lot about how it will respond to the current pressure to dump Mark Richt. They won’t.

Paul in RDU

November 2nd, 2010
12:19 pm

Beast of the East – The only head coach I can think of who has survived this level of scrutiny and managed to turn things around is Joe Paterno – and he really is a special case. Even Bowden couldn’t withstand it.

jtdawg

November 2nd, 2010
12:19 pm

Ron Roberts -

That was a well articulated, thought out, intelligent post.

Obviously I disagree with some (very good) points, but that’s what opinions are for.

I just believe that bigger picture metrics show that Richt just will not be able to get us over the hump. I certainly think things look better now that they did at this time a year ago. I just believe that his prints are firmly entrenched on this program and there are several defficiencies that are hard to ignore. I do not see us being a serious contender because I do not believe we have the ability to win the big games at the right time under Richt. He has never been able to do so…

And I don’t believe the talent and some positions is getting better, on the contrary, I believe we’re starting to lose talent to other programs that we desparately need…

Paul in RDU

November 2nd, 2010
12:21 pm

jtdawg – I am a GT grad and I have to agree with you – UGA was the better team in 2009 and deserved to win. Many other GT fans will say differently however.

jtdawg

November 2nd, 2010
12:22 pm

Mike Bobo 17 INT –

I think that’s part of the problem. We start in a talent hole with bad recruits/injuries/ etc that don’t pan out and we have been in catch up mode ever since.

THe biggest problem with Richt has been his loyalty to his staff and inability or reluctance, rather, to change…

Have faith in McGarity – I actually think he might be the best hire in quite a while….

2011 is the Year!

November 2nd, 2010
12:25 pm

This 2010 Dawg team is young and with all these distractions about arrests, suspensions, etc., never could get going. In 2011, the Dawgs will be loaded at all key positions, and with florida losing more talent, UGA will finally beat them and win the SEC East. 2011—the year of the Dawg!!!!!!! Dawgs win the SEC baby!!!!!!!

jasont13

November 2nd, 2010
12:25 pm

I’ve asked this question probably a dozen times and no one has the will, ability or want to respond. If everyone wants Richt out then who do you want in? Do not give me Chris Petersen or Gary Patterson. All the naysayers then who do you want??

'92 Dawg

November 2nd, 2010
12:26 pm

Barnhart…. you say “Emotion” is college football’s cornerstone. “Coaches must be emotionally invested in what they do”, you tell us. Why do you think Coach Richt shows no emotion? It’s funny how much stock you put in emotion, then go out of your way to defend keeping a guy who has none. Personally, i think that he’s lost control of this team. The sheer number of arrests under his watch are simply unacceptable. What has happened to this program???? I’ll tell you ‘07 10-2, ‘08 9-3, ‘09 7-5. ‘10 (most likely best case 6-6…. possibly 5-7). See the pattern here???? I’m sorry , but as a season ticket holder/booster/alum…… I’m ready to see something change.

3rdN8

November 2nd, 2010
12:26 pm

re: the post that claimed Bear Bryant got drunk, and beat his wife and players.

ok…maybe that’s true. But he didn’t do all of those things at the same time.

Puts a different slant on things, doesn’t it?

Colonel Reb

November 2nd, 2010
12:27 pm

You can have Houston Nutt!

1eyedJack

November 2nd, 2010
12:29 pm

I watched the game Saturday and watched the replay again last night, and for the life of me I can’t see how you can blame CMR or coaching for that loss. What I saw was a RS Freshman QB turn the ball over 4 times. What I saw were two UF fumbles that we failed to recover. What I saw was a Georgia safety drop a ball that hit him in the hands. What I saw was a stunned UGA team make adjustments and come out and practically dominate the second half. What I saw was a UGA team play hard for 60+ minutes and never quit. What I saw was a good coach with an extra week to prepare tweak his offense to be more effecient. What I saw was a player that should have been in jail playing for UF. What I saw was UF win the coin toss in OT and electing to play defense therefore putting the pressure on UGA.

I also saw some desparate play calling in OT.

jasont13

November 2nd, 2010
12:29 pm

‘92 Dawg- As a fellow booster, alum and baseball lettermen. Who do you want if they fire Richt? You say that Richt doesn’t show emotion. I’ve seen plenty out of him, I’ve seen him get up in players faces, yell and scream at them. Just like so many other wanna be football coaches on here, who do you want instead?

3rdN8

November 2nd, 2010
12:29 pm

@ jasont13

UGA’s best shot for a proven commodity (if two seasons defines “proven”) is Dan Mullens.

Don’t see how Starkville can compete with Athens if the UGA Alum really go after him.

Dan

November 2nd, 2010
12:30 pm

If UGA all the sudden got bad outta the blue I’d say keep Richt for a few more years. This program has shown a steady decline over the past four years. I love CMR! I think it’s time he found something else to do.

jellybeandawg

November 2nd, 2010
12:30 pm

jasont13 there are a LOT of great potential coaches out there. Here a just a few:

Kyle Whittingham
Dan Mullen
Mike Stoops
Paul Rhoads
Troy Calhoun

'92 Dawg

November 2nd, 2010
12:30 pm

@ one eyed Jack…. what i saw was UGA lose for the 18th time in 21 years…. NUFF SAID???

jtdawg

November 2nd, 2010
12:31 pm

UGAgirlFAN – Thank you, and yes have faith in McGarity. I think he will turn out to be an excellent hire in the right position.

I was actually critical of his “not any more important” Florida game commnets pre-Jacksonville, but I like the hire.

The biggest question is what he decides to do. I like Mark Richt as a man and think of him as a good football coach, just maybe not the right one for us. He’s done some wonderfull things here that should never be forgotten, but people forget how oft-criticized we were for running Jim Donnan out of town too soon, which I agree with. I think we didn’t give him long enough to get the team performing as it should, as he also made mistakes with his assitant coaches.

Make no mistake, that was Donnan’s talent Richt won so much with, interspersed with the good talent Richt can bring. But again, with McGarity being new, there is no telling what is up his sleeves.

I personally think out of respect and cache, Richt will get at least one more season here, but I also believe there is a big, HUGE wild card.

I have a strong gut feeling that Dan Mullen was very high on his and Jeremy Foley’s list to take over for Urban Meyer if he would have decided to stay retired. I KNOW there was a huge rumor mill churning in Starkeville last winter for a FACT. I KNOW, from the same line in Starkeville, that Greg McGarity and Dan Mullen have a close relationship. What I DON’T know is how patient McGarity will give to Richt, who has earned leeway in Athens.

Right now, we have to trust in Greg…. This team will be better next year. How much better is the question, and what does an embarrassing, unexpected loss do to shake McGarity, if he can get someone he really trusts to come in and take over?

THese are the things to keep an eye on…

[...] should stick with Mark Richt as its football coach, writes Tony Barnhart of The Atlanta [...]

jasont13

November 2nd, 2010
12:33 pm

jellybeandawg- Case in point. There are a LOT of great POTENTIAL coaches out there. So you fire a coach for a potentially great coach. So what if that coach goes 5-7, 6-6 or worse then you’ll come back on here and respond to columns that will be titled “Should UGA fired Mark Rich”.

joseph

November 2nd, 2010
12:34 pm

i think cmr gets one more year. in 2011 we lose to usc, old ms, ms state, tn, ky, fl, au, and gt.
just what i am thinking.

jasont13

November 2nd, 2010
12:35 pm

It is frowned up on in the SEC by the comissioner to try and hire a head coach at another school in the conference. So take Dan Mullen out of the equation.

jasont13

November 2nd, 2010
12:35 pm

jospeh, spoken like a true Tech fan.

Fish

November 2nd, 2010
12:36 pm

The bottom line is financial. We simply cannot afford to let him go this year. He will get 2011 with no more excuses. He simply does not seem to have a tight reign on the program. Our safties on defense are the worst I have ever seen with no discipline or technique, the offensive line seems always to be gelling, young or injured. At least once every two to three years it should all come together but it never does. It always seems to take some sort of crises @ UGA for the proper changes in the program to take place. After ten years Coach Richt should be aware of what it takes to win in the SEC and yet he doesnt. After 2011 the UGA fund raising will diminish and he will be let go.

FaithfulDawg86

November 2nd, 2010
12:36 pm

Say what you want, everybody, I’d rather lose a few games with class than go undefeated with a slimenball coach like Meyer, Spurrier, Saban, etc. Yes, UGA had some arrests during the off-season. All kinds of arguments can and have been made that law enforcement and NCAA have become tougher; in other words, these kids are not doing anything different than the players have always done, they’re just getting caught more, but the bottom line is that our players are punished according to the crime. An unpaid speeding ticket earns one of our best players a 2-game suspension, a drinken mistake with a young lady gets one of our top two QBs (possibly the starter) kicked off the team. A domestic dispute gets one of our best LBs kicked off the team… Meyer punishes only when he is forced to and sweeps the rest under the rug. We graduate more of our scholar-athletes (stress on first word) than any other program in the SEC except Vanderbilt (an elite private school), and our coaches win and lose with class, and of course, the most visible of these is Richt. And don’t give me any crap about Grantham’s supposed “choke” sign. That was one snapshot taken completely out of context and no one knows what he was doing. SO, quit speculating about a classy coahing staff and a classy program and get a life.

1eyedJack

November 2nd, 2010
12:37 pm

If you want Georgia to beat Florida with more consistency then you better start pulling for FSU and Miami to do a better job in recruiting.

marietta dawg

November 2nd, 2010
12:37 pm

Great article, Tony.

Beast from the East

November 2nd, 2010
12:38 pm

Paul in RDU,
I forgot about Paterno. He truly is a special case because of his longevity. I think it’s a foregone conclusion that Richt will be replaced. Probably after next season, unless he can somehow manage to win the SEC. Not saying whether it’s the right thing to do or not, just stating what appears to be obvious at this point in time. Too much competition in the SEC these days for many coaches to make it as long as he has.

jwilli120

November 2nd, 2010
12:39 pm

Extreme Makeover Home Edition rebuilds quicker…and I’m a UGA fan

jellybeandawg

November 2nd, 2010
12:40 pm

JTdawg,

What leads you to believe the team will be better next year. More then likly we loose AJ, Houston, also a few off the OL.

Yes, Murray will be better, but he played great this year. The Cupboard looks pretty bare for next year so unless there is an amazing upsurge from underclassman I don’t see how next year is going to be any better.

ARdawg

November 2nd, 2010
12:41 pm

1 eyejack

What did you see in the Colorado game? Perhaps the Missy St game or the Arkansas or even the Carolina game? Lack of preparation and void of any adjustments during the game. Did Richt coach those turnovers? Hell no. Who is saying he did? You are missing the bigger picture here. After reeling off 4 straight losses hitting a weak spot in the schedule and chest pounding with 3 wins over struggling teams, Richt failed to pull the trigger on the weakest Florida team he has ever faced. What is your excuse for the Florida loss? Gators have superior talent? Superior coaching? What? The game was poorly played, poorly coached and Georgia was beaten by an inferior team. After the shellacking the previous two years from Florida one might think Richt would “get it”. I’m afraid Richt will never “get it”. We will be sitting early November in 2011 having this same conversation after another Florida pounding next year. Will you see things differently then?

Texasvol07

November 2nd, 2010
12:41 pm

Hi Tony, Take this for what it’s worth. I am a Tennessee fan who happened to think that we should HAVE NOT fired Coach Fulmer, he really just needed a better offensive coordinator (ie David Cutcliffe or Randy Sanders). We won more than we lost when we had “Stability”. Take heed Georgia fans, be careful what you wish for. Being in last place “Sucks”, it really takes half the fun out of Saturdays.

ARdawg

November 2nd, 2010
12:43 pm

1eyedJack

November 2nd, 2010
12:37 pm

If you want Georgia to beat Florida with more consistency then you better start pulling for FSU and Miami to do a better job in recruiting.

Jeszuzzzzzz….. I dumber just from reading this post

Paul N Destin

November 2nd, 2010
12:43 pm

Denial….that is the big problem at UGA.

Ray Goof

November 2nd, 2010
12:44 pm

Call me …… BR-549

jellybeandawg

November 2nd, 2010
12:45 pm

jasont13 you cant run a program out of a fear of what will happen. Some hires work out and some dont, but you just cant keep doing the same thing out of fear.

Did Florida gain anything by firing Zook? Did Bama gain anything by firing Shula? Did Miss. St gain anyhting from firing Croon?

secfan123

November 2nd, 2010
12:46 pm

A couple of things:

First, there is not much difference between this issue and what both Auburn and Tennessee faced in 2008. In that year, both schools had long-tenured coaches who had success during their tenure, including SEC titles. They had done work to benefit the university. However, they reached points where they were generally 8-4 coaches with some years of more success, leading the respective universities to think if a change was needed? With the kind of money being poured into college athletics, and particularly for coaching salaries, most all schools expect results to be comparable. What will Georgia decide? Will Richt get better results?

3rdN8–Your point about the Sagarin rankings. One of Sagarin’s rankings takes into account scoring margin (Pure points), while the formula for the BCS does not. The other ranking averages the two. Since most of Auburn’s games have been close (5 are 7 points or less), their ranking is lower. Other schools with one loss have won by more (such as Alabama), influencing their ranking. However, the BCS does not take scoring margin into account.

jtdawg

November 2nd, 2010
12:47 pm

jellybeandawg-

Well the statistics are showing an upward trend for sure. More recruits and another year in the new defense should help, provided Grantham can seem to get them in better position at times.

The biggest thing to me was the admitted reluctance and ignorance of the physical practice we needed to toughen the team. We were soft.
THe boys look better since we started cracking pads more.

I believe Ricth will addres S&T this offseason as a part of “changes” he will promise McGarity. Spring and Summer practice will be much more physical – much needed.

Not that we will be overwhelmed with talent, plus the losses will hurt, but improved S&T, more physical practice, another year of ’statistical’ improvement by this defense and another year development my Murray will help us win a few more than we’ll end up with this year.

Yes we improve. Will it be enough??

Coach Grohbo

November 2nd, 2010
12:48 pm

FaithfulDawg86, With this type of approach, you will get many more opportunities to lose with class in the future.

When Richt’s players run afoul of the law, they are given a few days off, and they and the team are put at a disadvantage.

When other teams’ players run afoul of the law, they are given extra conditioning tasks which ultimately make them and the team better.

This is one of the reasons why Richt’s players do not fear or respect him.

db

November 2nd, 2010
12:50 pm

“In 2007 Georgia was as good as any team in the nation. If Tennessee doesn’t win in four overtimes against Kentucky in Lexington, Georgia plays LSU for the SEC championship in Atlanta. In my opinion Georgia wins that game and would have been in the mix for the national championship.”

If ifs and butts were candy and nuts, we’d all have a Merry Christmas.

db

November 2nd, 2010
12:51 pm

Wonder if Todd Grantham will sit down one game or two?

Just sayin’

gt

November 2nd, 2010
12:51 pm

If you wait a little longer the decision will be taken out of your hands. When the pews thin out and the money from prime time football becomes a dry puddle in the same era that Spurrier, Bobby Petrino, and all the other hated rivals are drinking out of a fire hose this nonsense will stop. Church and football do not mix, our forefathers knew that to be a fact, and we are now reproving it for today’s world. Something wrong with church, a lot is wrong with football, that is why they don’t mix.

BigA

November 2nd, 2010
12:52 pm

What I saw in the game was Urban working with his team coaching up the kids, while Richt just stood there on the sidelines, no involvement with what was going on. That was what was disturbing. I’d rather have the coach that is involved and working to coach the whole time, including games.

Barbara Dooley

November 2nd, 2010
12:53 pm

Oh, Herschel, honey, its time to “break down some more film”

mcdaviddawg

November 2nd, 2010
12:53 pm

Fire Richt while we still have something to save.

jellybeandawg

November 2nd, 2010
12:53 pm

jtdawg,
Well the schedule does line up favorably for us, but I just don’t see a whole lot of producers next year on the offensive side of the ball. Same backs, less experience on the OL, no AJ, no Duram.

For next season I actually expect less production out of the offense but I do agree that the D should be better.

Silver Britches, Red Panties

November 2nd, 2010
12:54 pm

Tony, I knew we could count on you to defend Coach Richt.

When you look at the brilliant surprises he has sprung on opponents – the surprise helmets, the end zone celebration – it is clear that he is the best game-day coach in college football!

Nolidge is good

November 2nd, 2010
12:57 pm

Also, let’s dismiss the “Fire Richt NOW” folks’ tirades, if they fail to suggest by name who they think would be better on day 1 of a new era.

Urban

November 2nd, 2010
12:57 pm

I agree with you Tony. CMR needs to be back next year. In fact uga needs to sign him to a lengthy extension. Keep emotion (and results) out of this. . .

@ Big A

November 2nd, 2010
12:58 pm

Maybe on TV they didn’t show CMR rallying the troops before the OT?? I will give him credit for that…team was really fired up after that.

coachgb

November 2nd, 2010
1:06 pm

What gets me so is how all our so called “fans” are yelling for a coach, any coach, to be fired. That’s all you hear. Georgia just scored 31 points against Florida and you want to fire the OC?

JB

November 2nd, 2010
1:06 pm

According to one prominent retired SEC coach I’ve had the honor to spend a few minutes talking to at a get together, in his opinion, losing Van Gordor ( over money after winning the Broyles award for top Assit. in the country) and promoting Bobo to call the games is what has cost Georgia to slowly decline……. I believe that also….

NWGADawg

November 2nd, 2010
1:07 pm

Dammit Tony stay away from those doughnuts you fat muckraking “journalist”.

Nitty Gritty

November 2nd, 2010
1:07 pm

I’ve never understood how anyone – even an alumnus – could support and take pride in UGA’s football team. When you look at their history for the past forty years, how can anyone ignore Jan Kemp and the “remedial studies” scam, the Jim Harrick fiasco, the DUIs in the athletic office, the DUIs and other arrests of players, the #1 party school tag (i.e., the most drunk students), the suspensions and outright dismissals, the Fulmer Cup, and on and on?

As disgraceful and humiliating as it is, I don’t see many alums and fans demanding an end to this sordid activity. It sets UGA apart as the kind of school most people abhor, and it’s become an embarrassment to the whole state of Georgia.

Will it never end? Apparently not while Mark Richt is at UGA. Richt is perhaps the biggest hypocrite in the United States. But even with all the cheating and lawlessness that he ignores, he still can’t win the SEC.

So you’re paying him to be BCS champions, but he can’t even win his SEC division. So why do you pay him millions of dollars a year?

TheItalianDawg

November 2nd, 2010
1:09 pm

Yes, Georgia show tremendous improvement and I say CMR should be back next year!

#1UGADAWGinMISSISSIPPI

November 2nd, 2010
1:09 pm

Joe D.

November 2nd, 2010
7:27 am

Looks just like Fulmer’s downfall at Tennessee, same type of numbers…the good and the bad, and getting worse. However, please note: beware of the unknown. Change is not always best for change sake. See Obama and Kiffin as examples. AMEN BROTHER!!!

Whiskeydawg

November 2nd, 2010
1:11 pm

I agree with you Tony, Richt should stay at Georgia. I think he has made some mistakes, but he also shows the willingness and the ability to learn from them. His record speaks volumes. I believe the Dawgs are trending upward, despite the record. I didn’t think this was Georgia’s year before the season started based on a new defense and a freshman QB. I did think we would beat SC and Colorado. I didn’t think we would beat FL, AU, AK, and GT a tossup. We have been competitive in every loss and I think next year, those types of games, we win. I look for CMR to make some of the changes you mention to the program in the off season. Not everyone sees the glass half full and I respect those views, I just don’t agree with them at this time.

#1UGADAWGinMISSISSIPPI

November 2nd, 2010
1:11 pm

AND TO NITTY GRITTY, GO BACK TO YOUR LOW LIFE BEE HIVE!!!!

The Ole Ball Coach

November 2nd, 2010
1:12 pm

Why no mention of Tennessees DE J.Smith Knoxville bar arrest this weekend……” How convenient”

Chickasaw

November 2nd, 2010
1:14 pm

Let’s await season’s end. If UGA wins at least 2 of 3, and keeps 3d respectable, then team’s on the right path & Richt deserves at least one more season. Lose ugly to AU and GT, and look flat v. Idaho State, then it’s hard to say team’s improving or things will get better, and maybe a Donnan type decision is called for. And off season problems must be a part of assessment. Call it sour grapes, but I’d never want to see a UGA coach stoop to a Meyer-Rainey type decision.

I see it this way: does 2010 = 1979 or 1999? In ‘79, painful losses and a 6-5 record became fuel for a championship era. In 1999, we went a lethargic 7-4 (remember UCF?), had hopes for an improved 2000; but got worse as 2000 progressed, again 7-4. We’ll have a better feel for which direction the 2010 edition is going in December.

The UT experience bugs me; so do the Griffith and Goff examples of coaches who followed a proven winner. Hope we’re patient about this!

jwilli120

November 2nd, 2010
1:14 pm

i for one would like to hear the words coming out
of CMR’s mouth that would fire the team up, some
of us believe that a bible toting HC cannot fire
up a team with word like dadgum and dangit some-
times you just need a little of the bad words to
get through to these kids and intimidate them..
just sayin…i like CMR but not on this note

producewiz

November 2nd, 2010
1:15 pm

programs can turn around quickly.I was 100% wrong about Chizik.thought he was a terrible hire.And if there was not a tie breaker, would both sides have had enuff and were ready to go home with a tie. 2 even teams,records similar,both played with great emotion, no quitting on either side. let it rest.

jellybeandawg

November 2nd, 2010
1:17 pm

If Mcgarity chooses to keep Richt then he needs to be subjected to an immediate cut in pay. 3 million per year is for a championship caliber coach and Richt has shown little if any interest in being that going on 5 years now.

Just pay Richt around $1 million per year and let him run his youth camp for wayward kids.

Greg

November 2nd, 2010
1:20 pm

Only 4 of the 9 teams UGA has faced so far this year have winning records and UGA has lost to all 4 of them. On top of that, UGA lost to Colorado and the Buffs have lost 4 straight since beating UGA. There’s a good possibility that they’ll finish 0-8 in the Big 12.

Throwing Idaho State in along with UT, Vandy, Louisiana Lafayette and UK, the record of those UGA victims is 11 wins and 31 losses. Not a decent win among them. Closest thing to it was at UK and they gift-wrapped that game for the Dawgs.

Think about all that. I do think Richt will get another year, but make no mistake, this year has been an utter disaster and there is NO excuse for some of it.

75-76 DAWG

November 2nd, 2010
1:23 pm

I knew this would be an emotional topic.CMR is a great coach and he can stay at least until his contract is up.If we improve to championship caliber in the next three years then he will get a big extension.
UGA’s problem was a head coach that only wanted to be a head coach and not an assisitant to the AD. Damon Evans was a figure head, do nothing AD. If McGarity had been at UGA three years ago he would have replaced Martinez then instead of this year and the defense would be well in place by now. We must give Grantham at least three years to get the defense up to SEC standard.
McGarity is our ace in the hole and will make the changes at the end of this year that will be what is needed. McGarity is a doer not someone that is satisfied with the status quo like Evans.

AUsome

November 2nd, 2010
1:24 pm

Ask Tennessee if they would like to have Fulmer back.

Richt is a solid coach but that’s not good enough for the UGA fan base.
Reminds me of LSU.
They are a top ten team with only one loss yet the calls for Miles’ head never cease.

Power shifts and nobody stays on top in this league for long.
If the Ga fans can’t accept that, throw Richt under the bus and start scratching around for a replacement.
Maybe you can lure Muschamp back.
The question is: if he doesn’t win a championship in two years, will you kick him to the curb as well?

DDPO

November 2nd, 2010
1:24 pm

So, injuries cost UGA a shot of greatness? (Check)

And they were the best team in college football one year, but couldn’t even win their own division that year? (Check)

Back to back 5 loss seasons (Check)

And there’s no need to mention off field behavior, because its all about results! (Check)

Thanks for setting us straight Tony!

BAMA dude

November 2nd, 2010
1:25 pm

IF Richt is to be replaced, I would think they would have to go no further that Mullen, Whiitingham, and Patterson. One of those three would take the job I’d think. Hiring Whittingham would be interesting since it would essentially be the same hire UF made with Meyer.

jwilli120

November 2nd, 2010
1:25 pm

10yrs 3millon a year ZERO national championship games says alot,
auburn coach 2yrs (less money than our HC) national championship
this year? PRICELESS………just sayin COME ON MAN….

rollpride

November 2nd, 2010
1:29 pm

Go Tigers…Chizik has 18 seniors starting on his team this year. So he inherited just about every player that is starting right now. So I agree that if the barn had not gotten Newton your recford would be much different. it doesn’t matter though because Bama will knock the barn off their pedestal in Nov.

Also Tony…Bama and UGA have not played this year (2010). Richt is a joke. i hope UGA keeps him for a long time! Ha!

jwilli120

November 2nd, 2010
1:31 pm

COME ON MAN…………………..

Keep Mark Richt---Please!

November 2nd, 2010
1:32 pm

Yours truly, Urban Meyer and the Gator Nation.

Grantham for Head Coach!

November 2nd, 2010
1:34 pm

Grantham can teach the players and coaches all kind of intimidating symbols to use during the game to “psyche out” the opponent, including the choke sign, throat slash, crotch grab, choreographed dancing on the sideline……. the possibilities are endless!

Keep Richt

November 2nd, 2010
1:35 pm

you people are so stupid tell me when georgia has ever been an ELITE program get your heads out the sky Mark Richt is the only reason this program is at the top like it is today he has had the most success as a coach at georgia even with a 5 loss season right now he is going to rebound this team in a year and it will be right back at the top like he made it the past 10 years. Bottom line he is the greatest coach in georgia history and one of the greatest still coaching. The only reason we didnt win a couple NC over the past 5 years is because of a guy named Tim Tebow one of the greatest QBs ever and a guy named Steve Spurrier who gave us a loss that cost the east. The fact is MR is 2-7 against florida i dont care weve lost 18-21 richt has had more success than the past few coaches against florida also. I cant tell you why we lose i dont know i think its because its in jacksonville every year im not making that excuse its just a possibility but i guarantee you if half those games were between the hedges that record would be different no doubt.

Douglas

November 2nd, 2010
1:37 pm

I am a businessman Tony: we don’t get caught up in emotions — we just focus on the facts. If Richt worked for me and didn’t improve as well as any of his other coaches, they would be given a chance to improve and if not, they would be terminated and replaced. Richt has not improved nor has Bobo’s decision making on offensive play calling — they have had time to improve — they didn’t — they are fired. Stick to your journalism job and let the businessmen stick to running a business. If we ran it like you think, we would be out of business.

Ten years too long

November 2nd, 2010
1:38 pm

A man is a factory sales rep. He is assigned A QUOTA to sales so many widgetrs and show so m,uch profit. Mark’s quota is to win vs FLorida or so and so U. and win so many games. That is standard in any business enterprise.
Now, the record of the last 4 or 5 years and with the UGA player arrests ……………………….. prove for me, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that he is not the man (lately) for the job. I speak from my heart …………….I mean CMR no ill will ………………but to say good luck and good bye.

Mark has been very well compensated. Chizk is in his second year with Tubeville’s talent and look at them.

Ten years is too long for me. NCs? I could care less about the mythical NCs …………….BUT they do come along with winning the SEC which we are light years from.

The Florida loss for me is proof positive that he cannnot coach at the level that we UGA ALUMS desire.

Go Dogs.

Top Recruit

November 2nd, 2010
1:39 pm

Why the SID at UGA should revoke the press privileges to UGA athletics? Two reasons would be Mark Bradley and Jeff Schultz. Times are hard financially at the AJC. Dawgs like to piss on that paper.

What UF and the AJC dislike about UGA in 2010. They have an opportunity to beat us down. I’d be careful about that. All programs go thru some ups and downs. Memories last. But what they do not like is UGA athletics are changing in a very positive way due to a couple of new and bigger biting dawgs on campus.

Rave on cat poop, you will get covered up.

Richt Rules

November 2nd, 2010
1:41 pm

Ga better be giving Richt a huge raise and bonus in the offseason or he may take the miami job—they are getting ready to fire their worthless coach and Richt played at Miami. They will pay him a lot more money than UGa is paying. Ga needs to come up with a lot more cash, quick.

wildbill

November 2nd, 2010
1:43 pm

I agree totally with BigA. I have taught high school and college courses. I have had students do exactly the same thing that CMR does on the sidelines. It is the LOOK. The LOOK that the student would rather be anywhere than in the class where at least an average performance would be required at the minimum to pass. Just watch CMR, he fluffs his hair, and the look on his face is one of detachment and a seeming disregard of what is going on during the game. Maybe he is practicing a poker face for a friendly game afterwards. WHO knows, I don’t. It just seems to me that he would rather be somewhere else………….

icedawg

November 2nd, 2010
1:45 pm

2009 was a tough year though at the end the Dawgs did show some grit. The end I think gave folks some hope that 2010 would be at least a little better. 2010 started of a huge sputter and will probably end that way as well. So, two not so good years back to back. 2011 should be the year of decision. Three so so years in a row are not acceptable. I would hope that Richt would agree. I think Tony is right. Richt must make some very calculated changes this year for next. Everything should be riding on next year.

im4bama

November 2nd, 2010
1:45 pm

Tony,

You make some good points and I would have to agree that Richt should stay. If no other reason than I don’t want UGA offering Kirby Smart the head coach job. Richt is a very good coach but something is definitely missing there or some people are tainting the program. There’s too much talent there not to win more against Florida. I think it’s fair to say the coaching staff is to blame for this. It might or might not be Richt, but if they fire him, they better know that it actually might get worse instead of better. Trust me, I’m a Bama fan and I know.

AUsome

November 2nd, 2010
1:46 pm

Rollpride,

You’re probably right.

Chizik inherited some talented players and a lot of the are now seniors.
Strange though that the same two linebackers had to play every snap of the bowl game last year.
Maybe that top five recruiting class was inhereted also.

Maybe Tubs had that stellar coaching staff lined up before he left.
Chiz probably had nothing to do with it.

The Bama nation will never give an ounce of respect to anything Auburn under any circumstances.
No use arguing with a brick wall.
Never mind.

Ed

November 2nd, 2010
1:46 pm

Tony, 10 wins in ‘08 doesn’t equate to a good season because: Georgia was humiliated in its two losses to Alabama and Florida and seemed to quit, at least defensively, in the second half in the loss to Tech.

I’ve been a Georgia fan since ‘77, when I was old enough to pay attention, and I can’t imagine how a season that includes losses to UF and Tech can be considered anything other than a failure.

If you’re not beating Florida or Tech, that’s not success.

And the second half run in ‘07 (against teams that, in hindsight, were not that good) only highlights how bad the first half of the season was, with a blowout loss at Tennessee, a home loss to a bowl-less, 6-loss South Carolina team, and a lucky break from losing to Vandy for a second consecutive season.

The fact is, Georgia under Richt has been underachieving since the Sugar Bowl following the ‘05 season. That’s 4.5 out of the last 5 seasons. Richt’s ‘06-’10 teams don’t really resemble at all his teams from ‘01-’05. It appears to many of us that Richt has sort of mailed it in, for whatever reason. Maybe he never was as good as he appeared.

And the loss to UF matters, big time. 2 out of 10 against those SOBs just doesn’t cut it, for any coach. I don’t care if he beats Tech and wins 90% of the remaining games, an annual, almost guaranteed loss in Jacksonville should not be what this program is about. If Richt can’t do what Ole Miss and Miss State seem to have no problem doing – stand up to UF – then find someone who can.

MURPHY

November 2nd, 2010
1:47 pm

Im not on the Fire Richt wagon as of yet. My opinion is Richt needs to hire an aggressive Offensive Coordinator .We must change our offensive philosphy. I dont see Grantham being at UGA next year.I feel he is more suited for the NFL.I dont see him staying at UGA.

BAMA dude

November 2nd, 2010
1:49 pm

Mark has been very well compensated. Chizk is in his second year with Tubeville’s talent and look at them.

Cheez-it won the juco lottery. Considering all their close wins, where would he be without Blinn College’s first Heisman candidate? I’d say he loses USCe, Clempson, Missy State, Kentucky, and LSU.

Dink

November 2nd, 2010
1:51 pm

MURPHY

I agree 100%, the OT playcalling was especially terrible.

MURPHY

November 2nd, 2010
1:53 pm

BAMA dude,

You have to give the Tigers credit. No matter the margin of their victories they are undefeated.I would agree that without Cam they are not undefeated but you could also say that about Bama with Ingram last year.Auburn should get the respect this year untill they prove otherwise,which I believe will come by losing to yall in the Iron Bowl.

jellybeandawg

November 2nd, 2010
1:54 pm

Tony,

Another convenient LIE you wrote in your article is when you said, “When A.J. Green did return Georgia won threee straight games…”

That’s NOT TRUE! AJ Green returned and we lost to an incredibly poor Colorado team. THEN we won 3 straight games. YOU talks about removing emotion from the decision process but then YOU fail to so.

You came to your conclusion prior and then looked for evidence to back up your conclusion rather than letting the evidence speak for itself.

Just more examples of your typical apologist propaganda to defends Richts lousy performance over the last 5 years.

MURPHY

November 2nd, 2010
1:54 pm

Our offense is way to predictable. We have been the same since 2001. Why dont we operate in the no huddle like we did early in the Richt era?

Mike Bobo 17 INT

November 2nd, 2010
1:55 pm

jtdawg

Totally agree with you on your previous comment regarding talent. UGA is in a hole and has to play catchup fast. The problem with UGA recruiting is they place too much emphais on the media ratings and do not know how to truly recruit talent. Then Athens has no idea what to do with it when they get the talent.

AJ Green is phenomenal, but he is not a one man team. King was going to be a disaster from day, because he is just looking for an NFL contract with no intention of going to class.

Regarding BAMA dude’s comment about Cheez-it or as we call him Cheese Nip, he is Terry Bowden all over again with a previous coache’s (Tubberville’s) recruiting class. He will get drilled by Alabama in the final game, thus ending any SEC or National Title hopes, then the program will tank from this year forward. Because, he cannot compete with the talent of SEC coaches like Meyer, Saban, or Miles when it comes to down to winning the big ones.

Alabama is going to drill Auburn, plain and simple. Alabama is ticked off since the South Carolina game and I pity any team in their path.

Just Sayin

November 2nd, 2010
1:56 pm

Anybody here think that no matter what happens Michael Adams will have a lot to do with it and that that’s not a good thing!

Mike Bobo 17 INT

November 2nd, 2010
1:56 pm

Unless Cam Newton has a special detail assigned to him at Auburn, something is going to pop with Newton getting in trouble before the end of the season, and Auburn is going to attempt to bury it. Just watch and see.

MURPHY

November 2nd, 2010
1:57 pm

Bobo 17 INT,

Congrads to your Gators.

Ed

November 2nd, 2010
1:59 pm

“So I ask you: If Georgia’s Blair Walsh kicks the winning field goal in overtime instead of Florida’s Chas Henry, are we even having this discussion today?”

Perhaps not, but that didn’t happen.

“If Georgia wins that game is everybody saying that Richt has things back on track and he’s good to go for the future?”

A lot more people would be saying that…but Georgia didn’t win the game, Tony. If “ifs and buts were candy and nuts…”

Barbara Dooley

November 2nd, 2010
2:00 pm

Oh, Herschel, break down that film, baby. Break it down good!

LakeDawg

November 2nd, 2010
2:01 pm

13-11 the last 24 games. 2-8 the last 10 against FL. Tony YOU should convince ME why CMR should stay. What have you seen that convinces you that things are trending upward? 3 straight wins against, TN, VANDY, and KN? A

Vince Dooley

November 2nd, 2010
2:01 pm

Barb, honey, why are you all sweaty?

Ray Goof

November 2nd, 2010
2:02 pm

As a Gator fan, I hope he gets a lifetime contract.

MURPHY

November 2nd, 2010
2:04 pm

We (Dawg fans) need to ask this one question of ourselves: Do we really want to go thru 3-4 year re-build process by hiring a new head coach and staff or can Richt make a couple new hires to staff and fix the issue’s?

Ed

November 2nd, 2010
2:04 pm

“Richt needs to look at his strength and conditioning program to make sure it is the best it can be. He needs to look at his recruiting organization to make sure it is doing the job. Every coach on that staff needs to be prepared to explain how his area of responsibilty is going to get better. Changes will have to be made but the leadership at the top needs to stay in place.”

After 10 seasons at UGA, shouldn’t things like recruiting and conditioning programs be well-established? If UGA hasn’t figured it out after a decade under Richt’s leadership, I’m skeptical that anything can be done in the offseason between 2010 and 2011.

Mike Bobo 17 INT

November 2nd, 2010
2:04 pm

MURPHY

Thanks for the nice compliment and best of luck the remainder of the season.

Ok folks, look it is going to be Alabama and Oregon in the national title game. Alabama is going to run the table from here on out, including the SEC title game. Oregon has enough strength of schedule and will run the table on their remaining schedule.

TCU and Boise do not have the strong schedule to make a dent in the BCS rating, but Utah could make some noise, since they drilled Alabama a couple years ago in the Sugar Bowl. However, there is still some green left between now and year-end and those with conference championships (i.e. SEC) get alot of weight added in the end, thus I think it is going to be Alabam and Oregon. If so, the ratings will go through the roof!

Mike Bobo 17 INT

November 2nd, 2010
2:07 pm

Note: Utah and TCU will knock each other out, so if TCU wins, then will not go with lack of strength, if Utah wins, then it could muck things up a bit. This is the reason we need to take the top 8 or top 16 and create a playoff system via the current bowl system.

MURPHY

November 2nd, 2010
2:10 pm

Bobo 17 INT,

I was in Jax at the game and it was very cool to see the UGA fans in a frenzy in the 4th qtr.I havent seen the UGA fans this way since 1997. It was alot of fun.

Mobile Dawg

November 2nd, 2010
2:11 pm

Agreed Ed, all we’re getting IMO is lip service and we can expect the sos….

coryw

November 2nd, 2010
2:13 pm

in all reality, Georgia has a stacked team. a freshman quarterback who has the potential to be even better than Matthew Stafford in the future, two strong runningbacks, an elite reciever and two more reliable recievers, and a young but improving defense. if houston and green decide to stay at uga next year, they are that much more stronger. uga SHOULD have won all those games they lost this year, and its easy to point fingers at immaturity and turnovers. all im saying is this; you may think im crazy, but look for Georgia to be an elite contender for the SEC championship next year, especially if Green and Houston decide to stay.

G8rBait

November 2nd, 2010
2:14 pm

My observation is that Richt is a good guy, and a good coach, but will never take ga to the elite level of the fl’s bama’s, tx’s, usc’s. Maybe you guys should just accept that a 9 and 10-win season is good enough. If you want to get to that next level though, I’m afraid you’ll have to hire the next Urban Myer, or Bob Stoops. Who is that guy? That’s the $6 million question. So maybe ride Richt for a couple more yrs., and see if can win at least an SEC title, but again, I don’t think he has what it takes to win a NC. Tough call for ga fans, esp. after the success of Vince Dooley had against the gators all those yrs

GoRicht

November 2nd, 2010
2:15 pm

Getting rid of a coach that has brought championships = Tennessee = oops

Lake Hartwell Dawg

November 2nd, 2010
2:18 pm

Meyer sure got a lot smarter with an extra week to prepare (again!) and Rainey back on the field. Without Rainey, Gators lose to UGa. Disagree that Uga has players the equal of Florida — just compare the recruiting classes of recent years. Fully agree that Richt is capable — plus he has the class and integrity that Meyer lacks.

Kyle

November 2nd, 2010
2:18 pm

I’d like to see them get rid of Richt because I’d like to see Chris Peterson sporting some Red and Black. Think he could run circles around Chizik, Mullen, the mad hatter, and Dooley. And compete with Meyer and Saban. Maybe we can paint the hedges blue for his first game!

Alabama Dog

November 2nd, 2010
2:21 pm

I believe some people here are making some very valid points about strength & conditioning. If I’m not mistaken, Richt refrained from doing “two a days” when Fall practice started in August. Didn’t he also give the players a “break” from practice by takng them to the pool one day? THE POOL???? It’s my belief here that these two particular things could be why our guys aren’t ready to play week in, and week out! If you think the top coaches in the country are doing this kind of coddling with their players, maybe we have our answer as to why Georgia is a middle of the road SEC team!

MURPHY

November 2nd, 2010
2:23 pm

Kyle,

Chris Peterson would be a fool to leave Boise St. He has it made there,why would he risk failure to change jobs? He doesnt strike me as being an ego driven coach.

JB

November 2nd, 2010
2:25 pm

Lot’s of wasted typing…..He will be back……He will have less talent next year ( He refuses to play more than 3-4 freshman) so what you see is what you’ll get…only less……He’ll lose 5-6 games.
so, There will be a new coach on the sidelines in 2012, and he will have a Junior all conference QB to build around.Mark has earned the right to clean this up……. He won’t have the players to do it….Study this roster close….

WD

November 2nd, 2010
2:25 pm

I am not a Bulldog fan, but I do think Richt if given time will turn it around. Despite the loss, I saw good things Saturday.
Murray is going to be real good and no one coaches QB’s better than Richt. He made some mistakes, but he will learn from it I am sure.
The defense is getting better. Meyer had 2 weeks to confuse a defense that is just now starting to get comfortable. They will continue to improve as long as Richt can keep Grantham under wraps.
Bobo is a mixed bag. He falls in love with the pass and abandons a good running game much too often. He needs to learn to exploit what the defenses give him rather than trying to force waht he wants to do.
Overall, I think thay will recover and be in the mix next year with another 10 win season, if cooler heads prevail.

L-Dawg

November 2nd, 2010
2:25 pm

History can provide us some perspective here. When Spurrier came to UF back in the 90’s, his top priority was to beat UGA. We all know he hated UGA because of the beat down we put on him in ‘66, denying him the SEC championship in his Heisman year. That is part of it.

More importantly, Spurrier realized the significance of the game and that the winner has typically gone on to great things. I read where the winner of UGA-UF has gone on to represent the East division 12 of 18 times. (unverified)

Back in the day, UF used to play Auburn week before the UGA game in Jax. First thing Spurrier did was reorganize the schedule to have an open week before the UGA game. Smart.

My criticism is that Coach Richt has not really demonstrated an understanding of the strategic nature of THIS series and displayed a sense of urgency about beating UF. We were lucky in 05 to get into the championship game folks. If we don’t beat UF, odds are against going to ATL.

Gen Neyland

November 2nd, 2010
2:31 pm

Let us reflect on how this blog begins :
“College football is a game of emotion”. True.
From there we have to read in,
Fan reaction is also emotional. True.
And finally,
Facts are facts. Er, not if we can circumvent them, they ain’t. True. Or is that false..?

Kyle

November 2nd, 2010
2:31 pm

Murphy,

Because the only way CP wins a national championship is for Boise to go undefeated and everyone else in the country to lose and for every SEC team (except maybe one) to lose twice. An undefeated Oregon and a 1 loss Bama/Auburn leapfrog boise into the national championship game. Maybe they get lucky this year, but even if they go and they win, i still dont think they get the respect to be considered every year. Pac-10 wouldnt take Boise (which would have made Pac 10 second strongest conference in the country- way above ACC, Big 12, and new Big 10) so they wont be able to be considered in national championship talk every year.

Undefeated Dawgs go to national championship every year. no questions asked (except for that auburn thing- blame that on the BCS)

JB

November 2nd, 2010
2:32 pm

WD……I agree, but he’s kinda let this roster get thin on depth and talent and if next year is 4-6 loses , then that is year 4 of a slide…..I don’t think he can survive it, good man that he is and all…..

MURPHY

November 2nd, 2010
2:36 pm

Kyle,

So your reasoning is because he wants a National Championship? I disagree with you on this. I just dont see him having that type of ego.I see him as a very patient coach and he believes in Boise and believes he can win one there.

phil g

November 2nd, 2010
2:41 pm

Reading all of these arguments takes me back to the bad old days of Tennessee circa 2005-2008 when the Fulmer debate went full throttle.

The situation is similar and the arguments are identical:
- who would we replace him with?
- making a change is high risk (more risky when you hire a high risk coach like Kiffin, but that is another story)
- look at his great career record
- he’s a good man

Fulmer had a couple of things Richt doesn’t have: Fulmer was a player and long time assistant at Tennessee and he won a national championship as HC.

Things they had in common:
- underperforming assistants, particularly OC and o-line
- growing fan malaise
- uneven record year to year with what should be a talented roster
- lack of team discipline on and off the field
- can’t beat Florida

We made the mistake of hanging on to Fulmer a few year’s too long, I hope y’all make the same mistake and keep Richt around for awhile for the good of Ol’ Rocky Top.

404

November 2nd, 2010
2:46 pm

U – U
G – Get
A – Arrested

has now become…

U – U
G – Get
A – Asphyxiated

Way to represent Grantham.

Fat Alligator and The SEC Gang

November 2nd, 2010
2:48 pm

Tony is right, Richt is the perfect coach and everything is fine with the Georgia Football program.Don’t fire him or Bobo or Grantham. They have all got a keen grasp of what it takes to win in today’s college football environment.Things will get better next season!!! Just have faith. Next year will be awesome!

Now please Georgia fans, Just convince your new AD to keep him.

BAMA dude

November 2nd, 2010
2:53 pm

MURPHY

November 2nd, 2010
1:53 pm
BAMA dude,

You have to give the Tigers credit. No matter the margin of their victories they are undefeated.

Absolutely. Undefeated is undefeated. I would take a little issue with the Ingram vs. Newton comparison. Ingram, believe it or not, had a couple of stinkers last year. Richardson stepped up in those games. If Cam ever has a real stinker against any kind of competition Aubie has no prayer. They don’t defend and really don’t block much.

Expletive Deletive to the power of Infinity cubed

November 2nd, 2010
2:54 pm

I am about as aggravated as any Bulldog fan out there. I do however think Coach Richt is a good coach, and a good man. When will you people realize that bad things happen to good people sometime? Get over your HATE and be positive about the opportunities which lie ahead for our beloved Bulldogs. I am not going to bail on them or the coaches, and I am a vested supporter. I tired of losing to florida, SICK AND TIRED of it…but I cant suit up anymore, so all I can do is maintain hope that brighter days will shine upon us. GO DOGS.

BAMA dude

November 2nd, 2010
2:55 pm

We made the mistake of hanging on to Fulmer a few year’s too long, I hope y’all make the same mistake and keep Richt around for awhile for the good of Ol’ Rocky Top.

Right now it looks like they messed up getting rid of him. The book won’t be closed on this story for some years yet.

MURPHY

November 2nd, 2010
3:01 pm

BAMA dude,

Ok I see your point on the Cam/Ingram comparison. You are right-if Cam goes down it could get ugly for Aubie. Hope the Dawgs can at least be physical with them and softn them up a little for yall.

JB

November 2nd, 2010
3:01 pm

Don’t take Derek Dooley lightly……He’s very smart, rare for HC. Don’t know if they will give him the time, but you can see what’s coming from a mile away….After year 3, he’ll have that depleted roster full again and after going 8-4 and losing to Bama, Uf and Dawgs, will be fired, and some one will walk into a loaded roster of juniors and Seniors and go 10-2 and all will say, SEE………Hate it for ole Derek.

Gator hater

November 2nd, 2010
3:02 pm

2-8 is 2-8. our biggesr rival owns us. there are plenty of coaches we could be paying a lot less to have that kind of record.

PHIL

November 2nd, 2010
3:03 pm

I agree that it will be tough to get better next year because of the lack of roster talent and experience. The only thing that could save that is a possible NFL lock out that keeps AJ and Houston in school. HOWEVER. I believe the defense is the side of the ball that will hurt the most. It wasn’t AJ who had over 100 yards rec Sat. It was Orson and T King. If you will go back and look at their high school high light films, I think you would agree that T Kings is more impressive than AJ’s. Marlon Brown will be good. I believe if the defense would just be WHERE they are supposed to be it’d have a better result. That will come with time and repetition.You idiots talk about how bad the defense has played and how bad they played last year. How much better does the DC look if our QB doesn’t give up 4 turn overs?? The DC has a hard time controlling the QB bad decisions or a TE with brick hands. Just sayin’. If you don’t believe me go ask Willie how those turn overs by Cox and Co. cost him his job . Saban said he would hire Grantham if UGA had hired Smart. That’s good enough for me. If Grantham had been on Sabans staff when he gave the choke sign, Saban and all the AL fans would have been proud. Someone at the AJC must go out and find morons and pay them to post on the UGA blogs. We scored 31 points and you want to say the OC did a bad job? How many points do you think it should take to win a game? If the defense falls on that fumble inside the 10 we win this game and you people are talking like the coaches have righted the ship. Idiots. Morons.

Speaking of morons anyone who thinks Boise State or TCU is worthy of the national championship just because they don’t lose a game in a year has lost their ever loving mind. UGA could beat either one of these teams 9 out of 10 times this coming Saturday with the bunch they have. The talent level of these teams is about that of a KY. Really who are you trying to kid. I hope they both play each other in a bowl game like last year. That way they both can say they went two whole years and never played anyone. I can’t believe that they allow them to play in the FCS. They should be playing people like James Madison. They beat Va Tech, too.

JB

November 2nd, 2010
3:04 pm

The road to Atlanta is through Jacksonville, and we break down there every year.

JB

November 2nd, 2010
3:05 pm

Or unless we do the usual, what for someone else to beat them…LOL

JB

November 2nd, 2010
3:05 pm

That’s S/B “wait” for someone to beat them…..

Macclenny_dawg

November 2nd, 2010
3:06 pm

Tony,
Now a question for you. If you was a SEC president and you had a choice to pick any coach in the SEC to run your program who would it be?
I think your 1st two choices would look like this:
1. Saban
2. Meyer
3. forget the rest no need to continue
If you would rather have Meyer no need to continue because as long as Meyer is there we can’t even win the SEC east!!! So might as well go try to bring in some up and coming coach and see if he can overtake them!!! Richt has had his chances now its time for Georgia to quit acting like its coach so cool and calm and bring someone with fire and ice in there blood!!!! Not 1 time this week did any of ya’ll bring up the fact that Meyer ran up the score on us last year!!! WHY??? Because to Richt he would have downplayed it!!! BUT they were still commenting on Meyer not getting over UGA storming the field 2 years ago!!!! ENOUGH SAID!!!! 1 more Year for Richt to right the ship anything less than a SEC championship and Richt can hit the door!!!!! AND THE ONLY REASON IS OUR SCHEDULE IS SET UP NICELY NEXT YEAR AND A NEW HEAD COACH COULDN’T COME IN HERE AND WIN THE SEC AFTER TRYING TO INSTALL HIS SYSTEM THE 1ST YEAR!!! 2012 OUR SCHEDULE IS BAD!!! FIRE BOBO AND START CALLING THE PLAYS RICHT!!!!!

KaliDogg

November 2nd, 2010
3:08 pm

Texas-Oklahoma, Michigan-Ohio State, USC-UCLA, Auburn-Alabama, FL-FSU, maybe FSU-Miami, GA-FL… and a few more “classic” rivalries.

And the question: If [Texas, Michigan, USC, Auburn, FL] was 2-8 against [Oklahoma, Ohio State, UCLA, Alabama, FSU], what do you think you’d be hearing out of those fans?

And, uh, did we all forget… that UGA was FAVORED in the Florida game? Since when are UGA fans thankful for “almost” beating Florida?

Let’s see what happens at Auburn. I remember what Herschel’s mother said, about not letting him play football when he was growing up. She was afraid he’d hurt the other children. I’m concerned about our players. We’re about to play a real SEC football team.

If UGA end up hoping to beat GT to save their season, that will say it all….

I reserve judgment, but the brew is boiling. And the heat is well deserved, IMO.

JB

November 2nd, 2010
3:10 pm

Why don’t we run run the offense like were 3 TD’s behind the WHOLE game !!!!!!!!!!!! Geez.
When Bobo HAS TO get aggressive, we move and score…….When he calls that PERCENTAGE FOOTBALL crap, we punt a lot !!!!!!!!!

Macclenny_dawg

November 2nd, 2010
3:14 pm

JB
RIGHT ON!!! BUT unfortunately this coaching staff is way to conservative!!! All these people who want to keep Richt just can’t remember when he 1st got here he was aggressive in play calling!!! In all phases of the game!! How many punt blocks the 1st 4 years Richt was here and how many since!!Believe it or not there is no comparison!!!

gdawginkalamazoo

November 2nd, 2010
3:18 pm

MURPHY, ALL coaches are ego driven.

Field Marshall Neyland, true.

Chris Rainey's Victims

November 2nd, 2010
3:20 pm

I don’t want to die

Texas Bulldog

November 2nd, 2010
3:21 pm

I love to see “Expects” write. I was at the Ga/Fla game and while I wish we would of won we did get our monies worth. Coach Richt is 94–32 and 7–2 in bowls since coming to UGA. A lot of teams/fans would love to have that record. My question to all the “Expects” who are going to hire to replace Coach Richt ???????

No Morals Meyer

November 2nd, 2010
3:23 pm

I had to play him
I didn’t want to die

Jus' Kiddin'

November 2nd, 2010
3:30 pm

@Texas Bulldog

You can’t replace Coach Richt. There is no man on this Earth who can coach up a team quite like he does.

gdawginkalamazoo

November 2nd, 2010
3:35 pm

@Chris Rainey’s Victims

Okay so you don’t want to die but will please accept this rather large cash donation from our boosters to drop the charges and make up a story that will get Chris back on the team in time for the Georgia game?

JMac12203

November 2nd, 2010
3:36 pm

Macclenny, All you puppy nerds said months ago that this season set up just perfect for the pups to have a great season, but…..
Just face facts, if you could not beat the worst Florida team in what, some 30 years, then you missed your shot.

mdawg

November 2nd, 2010
3:37 pm

You left out the loss to Colorado. There should have been NO way that Fla could have beat us because WE had the better team, and because WE were starved for a win in a series that has made us the laughing stock of the SEC EAST. But that didn’t happen. If Richt lost to this Fla team, then I think it is safe to say that he will never beat Fla. He should have been fired after he wasted the talent of Stafford and Moreno. The only thing he did with those players was beat Hawaii. Meyer won a national title 2 years ago and the Fla faithful were talking about running him out after 3 losses. Richt has had his chance and he failed. NEXT!

Gee

November 2nd, 2010
3:43 pm

You make alot of good points and it brings to mind that old saying “If a frog had wings…”. But the one thing I noticed about both head coaches was that Urban seems to have put his soul into the game and Mark was content to let the chips fall where they may. I thought Urban was going to have a stroke. I may be wrong, but I believe the teams sensed how urgent the game was by how each coach trusted them and believed in their abilities and determination. At one point late in the game Urban refused a holding penalty and gambled on his defense. Mark seemed to have planned a conservative game and expected to win. He didn’t seem to have the fear of losing. That’s an edge UF seemed to play with and UGA didn’t.

Mountain Dawg

November 2nd, 2010
3:44 pm

He hasn’t had consistent success against the Gators.

Really???

You Guys ..............

November 2nd, 2010
3:48 pm

Just tickle me so when you get your red panties in such a wad over your mediocre football program.

JB

November 2nd, 2010
3:56 pm

Texas Dawg……I would be considered a EXPERT, not a EXPECT…..LOL

JB

November 2nd, 2010
4:00 pm

Play to win or lose…………………Example A……In OT, we had the ball first and Second down we ran off Tackle. 33% of chance to win gone……….After the failed score interception by Florida and THEY got the ball back, Meyer had Brantley throw into the end zone on their second down…………..Big difference to me, how bout you ?

Jim

November 2nd, 2010
4:01 pm

Check out the post by Paul Westerdawg entitled “My Overall Thoughts On The Footbal Program” at http://georgiasports.blogspot.com/. WELL SAID!!!!!

John

November 2nd, 2010
4:07 pm

Tony – You deal in hypotheticals…you’re argument is mute.

Hoopie

November 2nd, 2010
4:08 pm

Tony, Richt’s problem is lack of discipline. Inconsistency on the field, poor off season workouts, lack of focus, poor team chemistry, etc. are symptoms of poor discipline. >30 arrests in 3 years is proof. richt doesn’t have it in him to enforce stiff discipline. UGA has averaged #2-#10 over the past 8 years in recruiting so they have talent on campus. They don’t develop the talent …..that is a discipline/coaching problem.

Mark Richt The Hypocrite

November 2nd, 2010
4:16 pm

As long as he is at THUGA no team will have to worry about THUGA being a threat to win the SEC Title much less winning a National Title.

Let's Talk About UGA!

November 2nd, 2010
4:21 pm

DawgNation,

The number one reason not to replace Coach Richt is because Mama loves him (plus I don’t have the money for a new Fathead poster).

Anybody want a beer?

Go Dawgs!
Sic ‘em!
Woof! Woof! Woof!

ceph

November 2nd, 2010
4:25 pm

Ceph is a bitter cynic—- I would, but I probably would be standing behind you and have to listen to you tell the cashiers what a wonderful coach Richt is and how you love to read self annointed Mr College Football!

Could be worse

November 2nd, 2010
4:26 pm

Good defense there, Bulldog “Homer” Barnhead. Just like you, I’m all for uga keeping MR. With all the talent that uga gets every year, if they had a great coach they might win the SEC 8 years out of 10, and the MNC 5 yrs. out of 10. B’dog nation would become so obnoxious that all other fans would need to move out of state. Give MR a lifetime contract so he can keep the bragging, loud mouthed fans shut up!

rincon dawg

November 2nd, 2010
4:27 pm

Hey Tony what about CMR getting outcoached off the field when it comes to recruiting his own state. He is losing that game as well.
Not to mention he has made 700,000 DOLLARS PER WIN THIS YEAR.

Mean Machine

November 2nd, 2010
4:27 pm

I was with the pitchfork and torches crowd after the 1-4 start this season. However, there has been a noticeable change from the UT game forward. I’m sure the physical practices and emphasizing the fundamentals has been a huge part of the turn around. So I’m willing to be patient through next year. But UGA must win the SEC next year if Richt is to come back. If they go 9-3 and lose to UF again, he should be fired! No more patience at that point.

Macclenny_dawg

November 2nd, 2010
4:38 pm

@ JMac12203

I just think we need to give Richt 1 chance but he needs to know SEC championship or the highway by the end of next year!!! I bet then he would coach like he was a up and coming coach!!! BECAUSE IF WE HIRE A NEW COACH IT WILL TAKE 3 YEARS TO EVEN THINK ABOUT A SEC CHAMPIONSHIP!!! 2011 IS A FAVORABLE SCHEDULE AND MURRAY HAS HAD A YEAR OF EXPERIENCE!!! IN 2012 WE LOSE AT LEAST 3 GAMES GUARANTEED!!! DOESN’T MATTER WHO OUR COACH IS!!! IF ONLY WE HAD SOMEBODY TO CALL THE PLAYS AND BE AGGRESSIVE AGAIN!!!

Macclenny_dawg

November 2nd, 2010
4:39 pm

IT WANT DISAPPOINT ME TO SEE THE DOOR HIT RICHT IN THE BUTT THIS YEAR EITHER!!!

razoreye

November 2nd, 2010
4:40 pm

Before you fire your coach, you better re-evaluate your program and see what “better” coach you could get to take the job. Look at Tennessee and what they went thru to get a coach. Your program is not as elite as you think.

Ole Ball Fan

November 2nd, 2010
4:45 pm

Rank the UGA coaching staff? What are they 5th or 6th in the SEC? Ask yourself if you seriously believe Richt’s assistants are now or will be ever be coveted by other schools as head coaches or even coordinators. IMHO he surrounds himself with second rate coaching talent.

Ed

November 2nd, 2010
4:48 pm

Let’s be honest, Richt was hired to turn around the Florida rivalry. The fact that he came from the staff of a man (Bowden) who was pretty good at beating Florida during UF’s rise in the 1990s was no coincidence. Beating Tennessee, Auburn and Tech was a bonus.

Richt has had mixed results against Tennessee and Auburn, and his mastery of Tech has been impressive, but the bottom line is that Georgia has stunk up the Gator Bowl each year under Richt. No different in that respect from Goff and Donnan. We used to be able to say that at least Richt’s teams were competitive, but the ‘08 and ‘09 beatdowns took away even that.

I find that unacceptable, just as Ohio State once found John Cooper’s record against Michigan unacceptable. As Jim Tressel showed, there were coaches out there who could beat Michigan (regularly as it turned out). Georgia needs to let go of its Cooper and find its Tressel.

Macclenny_dawg

November 2nd, 2010
4:50 pm

Anybody that says Richt can’t be replaced by someone better, just remember Richt was never a head coach before he got his chance!!! WHY CAN”T WE BE THE NEXT UNIVERSITY TO HIRE THE NEXT GREAT COACH!!! BECAUSE SOMEBODY WILL IN A FEW YEARS REPLACE SABAN AS THE TOP COACH IN THE LEAGUE!!! GUARANTEED!!!!!!!

Matt

November 2nd, 2010
4:54 pm

5 reasons we should fire richt vs 5 reasons we should keep him….

1.He has lost control of his team….over 10 arrest this year and more over the last few years….they don’t respect him
2.He is too nice..i know you will laugh but its true…he doesn’t have the “it” factor that Saban, Meyer, Spurrier, etc…have….even Les Miles has it….We need a hard nosed couch that teaches discipline and shows fire once in a while.
3.Recruiting-although we are usually in the top 15-20 we are losing top state players and nobody wants to come here….some new blood and new life in the program would help
4.Record against Florida-although you say dismiss it we have gone 2-7 over 9 years…that’s unacceptable against a team which is usually a HUGE game for us and them
5.His record over the last 3 years….each year has gotten progressively worse….losing 5 plus games 2 years in a row when your supposed to be a top notch SEC team is unforgivable…I have high expectations and they should be met…even when we were preranked #1 with all the talent in the world we lost 4 games….it doesn’t matter what he did 5 plus years ago…he was great for the program and did some amazing things….but the last few years has just gotten bad…do you really believe Saban, Meyer, etc…would have lost 4 games with that team 3 years ago? Honestly?

5 reasons we should keep him

1. There is nobody better out there(unless somehow we can get TCU, Boise St, etc…maybe even Kirby smart or Muschamp…a chance)

2. He has strong faith and parents love his religious values(not important to me) but he is a good guy

3. His past record and 2 SEC championships

4. Possibly a bright future with a great QB in Murray…but we have seen this before with Stafford so what makes me believe he will be able to coach the talent

5. Name recognition

Negatives heavily outweigh positives…just my thoughts….i don’t mean what I said yesterday when I said he was a piece of sh*t…I am just a frustrated UGA fan who is ready for a change and some life in the program…its embarrassing.

Joey

November 2nd, 2010
4:55 pm

Hmm, should Georgia keep a coach who won a higher % of his games, in the hardest conference in the U.S., than Bear Bryant, Saban, or Bowden?

ep, 76% win %, 5th best in nation.

1 of 7 coaches to win 90 games in 9 seasons.

4 top 10 finishes in a row at Georgia, a feat Meyer, Saban, have never achieved.

6 top 10 finishes in 9 seasons.

david

November 2nd, 2010
4:57 pm

Richt will be on an even higher flame if Auburn wins the National Title this year. AUBURN. Not Alabama, not Florida, not LSU…but Auburn. They could do it. I just say this because here would be another SEC team with a head coach having just a couple of seasons to turn the tide, so to speak, and could very well close the deal with Cam Newton.

Also, Tony, I see Georgia losing a great deal of talent and not sure if they have the horses on the team right now to fill those voids in 2011.

Finally, Grantham for all his antics, was Richt’s hire for defensive coordinator. Seven games into a long season, and I don’t think I see the kind of improvement one would expect.

Hark back to Richt’s first season…8 – 5, but a team clearly improving each week and on the upswing headed into 2002, where they went 13 – 1. Don’t see massive improvements as of yet…especially on defense or special teams coverages.

Move the Fla Game

November 2nd, 2010
4:59 pm

The only way Ga is going to beat florida any time soon is to move the game to Athens and Atlanta and get it out of jacksonville, where florida has all the advantages–short bus trip, more fans, etc. Plus, all the hotels jack up the rates for UGA fans in town for the game. Move the game ASAP!!!

wildbill

November 2nd, 2010
4:59 pm

The coaches nor players have not performed as a cohesive unit all year. We have witnessed seemingly dumb play calls, inept defenses, erratic special teams, behavioral problems, endless missed assignments, erratic pass receiver routes, and the list goes on. Whose fault is that? CMR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Minnesota Dawg

November 2nd, 2010
5:07 pm

Tony, I agree with you. There is no mercy with some of our supposed fans. Let’s give Richt a couple of more years to sort through this. He’s a good coach. Look at Urban Meyers. Are Gators fans calling for his firing? Come on Georgia fans, you know better than that! Come up here to Minnesota and you’ll be thankful for our coach, team, and Sports Program!

Ed

November 2nd, 2010
5:15 pm

Those who cite Richt’s record ignore the trend of the past 5 seasons. Since the start of the ‘06 season, Richt’s winning percentage is .688. Factor in at least 1 and usually 2 cupcake games a year, and his winning percentage against BCS schools is more like 65% during that time period. Georgia is 12-10 since the start of the ‘09 season, which includes wins over Tennessee Tech and La.-Lafayette. The SEC record is 7-8 during that stretch. That’s an awful lot of losing for a program that has a big stadium, tradition, money, and Top 10 recruiting every year.

Sounds like a description of South Carolina and Kentucky, not UGA.

Georgia doesn’t owe Richt anything beyond the millions it pays him every year to coach the program. I don’t know any salesman or store manager who can keep his job based on his numbers from 2001-04 when he’s stunk it up for two straight years and four out of the last five years.

Richt’s overall winning percentage right now is about 74%, but that number has been going steadily down for years now. At one point it was above 80%. The discipline problems seem to grow each year. If Georgia isn’t going to fire Richt after a (likely) 5-7 season, what will it take?

RED GATOR

November 2nd, 2010
5:18 pm

Barnhardt is a UGA homer. You guys gotta get rid of Richt, do you think for one second Florida would keep a coach who was 2-8 against georgia, and had won 1 sec champsionship. Florida would dump them and move on. Richt is a great guy, but I dont think he has the fire to be competive year in and year out.

Just sayin..

rincon dawg

November 2nd, 2010
5:18 pm

Hey Minnesota he won 2 National Championships. CMR 10 years O NC s

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November 2nd, 2010
5:24 pm

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dawgpaw

November 2nd, 2010
5:29 pm

Finally some common sense. Good job sir, enjoy your show.

Draino

November 2nd, 2010
5:33 pm

How is your opinion that Georgia would have beat LSU in 2007 any better than your opinion that Georgia would beat Florida in 2010, which they didnt?

Dawghater

November 2nd, 2010
5:37 pm

Go Ahead UGA, fire CMR. We dare you! Then you will find out how hard it will be to find that miracle coach! Life’s like a box of chocolate, you never know what your going to get!

Larry

November 2nd, 2010
5:39 pm

Tony, you must be on something to write the Georgia program is “trending upwards”. Concerning the reference to the Dogs getting back to elite status, keep in mind they have only won the SEC twice since 83 and during that same time the basketball team has won it 3 times. Does this make Georgia a basketball school? I’m a Dogs fan but the truth is they haven’t really ever been elite, not a national power than all Georgia fans want them to be.

Dawghater

November 2nd, 2010
5:40 pm

Hey Move the Fla Game can you count. Did you go to the game. The tickets are split down the middle. Now if your friends at UGA took some of their tickets and sold them to FL fans, who’s at fault. What a wimpy excuse for your 18 loses in 21 tries. Want some cheese with that Whine!

long-time dawg

November 2nd, 2010
5:43 pm

You say “look at his body of work”. OK, I have,and it is good. But, what would a Saban, Meyer, or Spurrier have done with the same talent? I maintain that one, or all three, would have won at least one National Championship. Is CMR a good guy and a fine Christian man? Yes! But, it is time to get someone else in the HC job.

NWGADawg

November 2nd, 2010
5:44 pm

I agree with Top Recruit, quit allowing TB, MB and any other nay sayer the priviledge of attending anything UGA, the AJC is the only daily form of communication I have with the civilized world stuck in this south ga hospital E.R. but I will start tomorrow urging we drop them. Also Dear Fla, please quit letting your sh$# ass drug seeking population out of the state and into our Ga E.R.s’. They slither up here and complain about depression and want pain meds for splinters, we are full, thanks.

shannon

November 2nd, 2010
5:46 pm

I will base my answer upon the assumption Richt is back. If that is the case, there are three changes that need to be made.

1. Hire Whipple at Miami to be the OC. Miami can’t pay him enough long term. He knows how to counter a defensive audible on the fly.

2. Hire a new strength coach.

3. Being the McGarity comes to us from Florida, he understands how UF’s tide turned against UGA when Spurrier demanded the off date before the UGA game. McGarity needs to have that same passion for UGA.

People forget, Dooley had the off week before he played UF. We dominated. Spurier, Zook and Meyer have had it 80% of the time, and they dominate.
I am tired of people saying the off week does not matter. It doesn’t when the talent is not close between the two teams. It DOES when the talent is close. Common sense tells me: when UF has two weeks to our one, AND the friday before the game while UF is resting and or preparing for saturday, UGA is flying down. We actually have a short week.

That will solve the problem.

east ga dawg

November 2nd, 2010
5:48 pm

Whenever I read these negative blogs, it pains me to know how much it must be hurting future recruiting. If I were a teenager and had any desire to attend UGA, I would certainly take into consideration our fickle fans expectations if our team had a bad outing or year. Dawg fans need to bleed red and black and be supportive of these kids. Tony, you are absolutely correct in your analysis!

G-Strings

November 2nd, 2010
5:55 pm

Have to disagree with you here Mr College Football even though I’m also a UGA homer and Athens native. I think Richt had his time in the sun the first 5 years, but the league has clearly, clearly passed him by, as evidenced by the 2006 to 2010 5 year conference record. You’re only prolonging the inevitable unless you are content to be second tier.

Mean Machine

November 2nd, 2010
6:04 pm

UGA has the bye before UF for the next 2 years. Let’s see what happens.

KM

November 2nd, 2010
6:09 pm

He should remain head coach to;
1. Help Florida continue their dominance over the Dawgs.
2. Improve other SEC teams and some ACC teams recruiting.
3. Provide diving and dancing instructions to the players.
4. Secure the Dawgs rightful place as a mid-level SEC team.
5. Capture Georgia’s amazingly elusive second national championship.

Coach Grohbo

November 2nd, 2010
6:12 pm

Football, Basketball, Baseball, Academics, Class.

The University of Georgia sucks at everything!

I’m lovin’ it!

Let's Talk About UGA!

November 2nd, 2010
6:13 pm

DawgNation,

Yes, I’m still upset over our tremendous loss to those terrible gAytors.

I support Coach Richt (and his taxes support me). It’s a win-win for everyone.

All this talk of firing him has me upset!
I’m bundled up in my UGA blanket in Mama’s trailer.

I need a man-hug and a Snickers.

Anybody want a beer?

Go Dawgs!
Sic ‘em!
Woof! Woof! Woof!

kaput

November 2nd, 2010
6:14 pm

Tony, I think I’ve lost respect for your opinion. You are the biggest homer and apologist for all things Georgia and all things Richt that it is embarrassing.

Seriously.

coach myer

November 2nd, 2010
6:19 pm

I think he should stay as long as he wants to. all you haters need to get off his back. Support your team. Oh i forgot all you DAWGS used to be NOLES.

Coach Grohbo

November 2nd, 2010
6:20 pm

Oh…and they suck at tailgating too.

coach myer

November 2nd, 2010
6:24 pm

BAND WAGON JUMPERS

nub

November 2nd, 2010
6:27 pm

Hey Tony…. good cut and paste from last yrs article…….

wildbill

November 2nd, 2010
6:37 pm

CMR is laughing his rear end off at the homers here standing up for him, begging for not one, but two more years. 6 million $ more for his retirement. And then, UGA fans are still looking into the future through their bifocals for the promised land these homers are waiting on, and waiting, and waiting. Next year, more gangbangers, just like in recent years. More arrests, more excuses, and the Pres. and AD remain in hiding. This is a pitiful athletic situation, people, would your boss be as submissive to you for sorry performance? NO THEY WOULDN’T, YOU WOULD GET A PINK SLIP!

Alabama Dog

November 2nd, 2010
6:48 pm

Ed: your points are well made. Have we as Georgia fans got our “John Cooper”? It seems that way to me. We have had to suffer through the mediocre Goff & Donnan eras, and now it seems we have yet another coach who just can’t get it done against Florida, just as his 2 predessors couldn’t. It’s time to say enough’s enough! I will agree with most that he brought back some dignity to the program which was sorely lacking before he came on board, but those 2 SEC titles are now just a distant memory to most of us now. It’s time to move on, and move FORWARD!

Macclenny_dawg

November 2nd, 2010
6:50 pm

We all have to ask ourselves can we give up 10 wins each season to struggle with a new coach for 2 years that might finally get us over the hump? I can take a couple of bad seasons to Try to hire someone to take us too the next step National Championship!!! 10 wins the next 10 seasons ain’t gonna mean horse crap if we can’t never even play for the NATIONAL TITLE!! BECAUSE PEOPLE AIN”T THAT WHAT EVERY FOOTBALL TEAM AND FAN WANTS!!!!!

wastedyears

November 2nd, 2010
7:14 pm

FIRE MARK WRONG WHAT R YOU TONY A GATOR?????????

wastedyears

November 2nd, 2010
7:16 pm

SHOULD HAVE WORE PINK HELMETS 4 BREAST CANCER AN IM ALL ABOUT SAVING THE TA TAS

blkdawg4lfe

November 2nd, 2010
7:21 pm

What really amazes me is the stupidity of all you negative comment making idiots. If the AD was to fire CMR now, who in the world would he replace him with, and how much of a set back would you be looking at for the program. You think this is bad, try bringing in a new coach with his own scheme, recruiting his style of players for the type of offense he’d want to run, and not to mention the coaches that would follow. So for all you experts try this on for size, set back of a minimum 4years, so think before you open your mouth and give CMR some slack no one can be on top every year. If your going to comment on this i can name a few who are on the upswing and others that are still stuck on pause/ NEB- MICH- FL ST- AUB- ETC. Im out and i just have this to say—————————– GO DAWGS!!!!!!! AND SIC EM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Chuck Uga

November 2nd, 2010
7:45 pm

If Georgia’s Blair Walsh kicks the winning field goal in overtime instead of Florida’s Chas Henry, are we even having this discussion today? NO.

If Georgia wins that game is everybody saying that Richt has things back on track and he’s good to go for the future? YES.

Tony, I agree Richt should not be fired. However, I thing he SHOULD be fired if not willing to make changes and replace some ex-UGA players on his staff and bring in some top-tier talent, and that includes a new offensive coordiator, someone who is an in-game strategist that can worl alongside Richt. What he has now are people that CANNOT compete with the coaching competition around the SEC. We are talking about coaches who are the best of the best. Will he replace anyone? Don’t know. Tough decisions need to be made. What I worry about the most is another repeat in 2011 of a team who is NOT ready to play when the SEC schedule begins. The we are responding to the same column you will write a year from now (why Richt should not be fired because he went 8-4 or 9-3 but no SEC East Title and yet another loss to Florida which has become a formality). Do I think Georgia beats Florida in 2011? Nope. Do I think Richt will be at Georgia in two years? Nope. The one thing you did not do is judge him by his body of work the past five seasons. It is mediocre at best. Everyone is sick and tired of citing the titles in 2002 and 2005. What matters is now is how the team does against top competition, not the old school passing grade for beating Vandy. Kentucky and an SEC team that is down that particular year (like UT this season). 2011 is the watershed year. In my opinion, he defeats Florida AND wins the SEC East or send him packing. Money is no issue, and those who think it is are flat ignorant. UGA could basically BUY OUT some of the other regonal football programs with the money they make.

Bull Meacham

November 2nd, 2010
7:50 pm

Tony’s points and acceptance by UGA fans are why Georgia will never sustain an elite program status. One of top 5 recruiting states, top 10 stadium, financial resources, rabid fan base and we cannot sustain a consistent elite program. 2-8 vs. florida. Time for a change or just accept the fact that we are not in the league of Florida, Bama, Ohio St, Texas, etc.

Kris

November 2nd, 2010
7:51 pm

Was Vince Dooley an elite SEC coach? If you think so, compare his and Richt’s stats. And then think about Tennessee.

I’d rather see a little more inspired offensive playcalling than a new head coach.

Hairy Dawg

November 2nd, 2010
7:54 pm

Tony,

Extremely good article which is spot on in many ways. You have a lot of insight and communicate it as you should be able to do. I agree we are much better these last four games, but am heartbroken over the last game(as you pointed out) and would NOT be entirely happy if Walsh had kicked the game winner instead.

You did not mention the Colorado game which I consider a major embarassment. The Arkansas game was there for our taking but we cannot make 4 yards in 2 downs because we decide to send all receivers long instead of running the ball or tossing a short pass; we get sacked.

After all the mistakes and turnovers on Saturday, we are tied 31-31 with a minute to play and possession of the ball and what do we do? The same style of play we have shown all year. Instead of playing to win we play to not lose. Our BEST chance to win the game was to use our 2 minute offense to gain 25-30 yards and let Walsh have a chance to win the game. But we decide to run into the line for no gains and letting the clock run out. Urban Meyer was stunned and called his own timeouts to get the ball back with 25 seconds so they could try to win it in regulation. That’s the difference!

I hope you monitor your blog and I hope you comment on the above.
Thanks,

bama

November 2nd, 2010
8:05 pm

As an Alabama fan, I sure hope Richt does stay. We sure do enjoy those Ga. recruits.

lets go another 20 years in between sec championships

November 2nd, 2010
8:14 pm

2001- first year…. 8-4 (laying a foundation)
2002- 13-1 Sec Champs, Sugar bowl champs… (many other years 13-1 equals national champs).
2003- Sec eastern champs, loss to the national chams (lsu)
2004- 10-2 record (beat florida)
2005- Sec Championship (Dj shockley hurt for Florida game, otherwise we win that game and play for national championship)
2006- 9-4 (with a true freshmen qb)
2007- 11-2 finished 2nd in the country, sugar bowl champs, sec eastern champs (really finished as the best team in the country)
2008- 10-3 with a ton of key injuries (many season ending)
2009- 8-5 poor season
2010- regardless of the season a poor season

so basically after two poor seasons you are ready to go another 20 years in between sec champs (rememeber before richt it had been 20 years in between sec champs)…

ckgator

November 2nd, 2010
8:32 pm

READ CAREFULLY. From Sports Illustrated:

“If Georgia runs off Richt this year, it will be textbook Clemson/Ole Miss Syndrome. (Note the example cited in that link: Minnesota. How’s that working out?) Historically, Georgia is more prestigious than either of those teams — but not as much as Dawgs fans like to think. In all my travels, ****I’m not sure I’ve ever come across a fan base whose self-perception is so far from reality.*** Georgia fashions itself a national power in the vein of Ohio State, USC, et. al., based primarily off one glorious three-year run 30 years ago with Herschel Walker (and some kick-butt years in the 1940s). Prior to this season, the Dawgs under Richt had vastly outperformed their historical “equilibrium,” and in fact Richt’s career winning percentage (.752) is the highest in school history (not counting Bobby Winston’s lone 5-1 season in 1894).”

ckgator

November 2nd, 2010
8:33 pm

GEORGIA IS SELDOM IN THE NATIONAL SPOTLIGHT. OUTSIDE OF CLARK COUNTY, YOU ARE ALMOST IRRELEVANT!!!

Deja Vu

November 2nd, 2010
8:40 pm

@Kris

It’s not really a question of whether Mark Richt can coach. I don’t doubt his football knowledge. He has had teams that were Top Ten quality. Maybe he’s just not lucky enough to win a National Championship? If that’s the case, then it’s not really his fault — but it IS grounds for dismissal as Head Coach at most of the major college football programs nowadays. Like it or not — it is what it is.

Comparing Richt’s situation to that of coaches in the 1960’s is not really relevant. College football was a different game then. There was not nearly so much media coverage, and what was available was generated by a relatively small pool of professional journalists, rather than 1001 Bloggers, LLC.

There won’t be any more Bear Bryants, Bobby Bowdens or Joe Paternos. Even a good coach won’t last long if he doesn’t win. Back in those days, a HC would get a chance to turn the program back around. These days, losing ‘buzz’ for new recruits pretty much condemns you to being a second tier team. Coaching at a traditional football school is a harsh environment, but the rewards are potentially very high. The risk is high as well. You don’t get second chances any more.

Dennis

November 2nd, 2010
9:07 pm

About time someone with any sense at all told it like it is. Thank you.

WAR DAMN EAGLE

November 2nd, 2010
9:32 pm

who the hell cares?

Bama Stan

November 2nd, 2010
9:47 pm

I say keep Richt for a very, very long time.

boog

November 2nd, 2010
9:56 pm

Well said… It could not have been stated any better.

Time to Die

November 2nd, 2010
10:03 pm

Hey, CKGaytor

How’s UF’s football history vs UGA? Well, after 21 years of dominance, UF is still behind UGA in the series. So STFU about football history.

The fact is, UF made a decision to be better and made it happen. UGA has to do the same. UGA vs UF should be at least 50-50 split.

All these “what if UGA won” questions are irrelevant. UGA didn’t win. 2-8 vs UF. 6-9 vs Top 10 since 2001. There are better coaches out there. Will they leave their school for a $3-4M pay raise? I don’t know. (Gary Patterson has my vote – TCU)

But UF, AU, BAMA and NEB (they have 1 loss) have improved dramatically. And quickly.

What’s that saying? You’re either getting better or you’re getting worse. Well, sadly, UGA has been getting worse since 2005.

aarh

November 2nd, 2010
10:05 pm

bo- Yeah, AJ played in the Colorado game, & tehy were winning until he had to come out w/ cramps. They did look like a totally different team when he was in there though, & it was his first game playing of the yr. The team didn’t seem to turn things around until the next game…as far as significant improvement goes.

dufferdawg

November 2nd, 2010
11:05 pm

Tony,
When you speak of Richt’s body of work…how can you not point out he has never beaten Tenn and Fla in the same year and more pointedly, his record against the east the last 5 years is 13 and 12 ! Do you see that as progress over the last 5 years….i think not…We also had the same comments after last year…he has to look at everything and everyone….S&C coach, recruiting…all coaches etc…blah blah blah…It’s is time to bring in someone else…Harbaugh for instance…

Ugalee

November 2nd, 2010
11:13 pm

ckgator

November 2nd, 2010
8:33 pm
GEORGIA IS SELDOM IN THE NATIONAL SPOTLIGHT. OUTSIDE OF CLARK COUNTY, YOU ARE ALMOST IRRELEVANT!!!

Typical FL fanboy, so ate up with ignorance you can’t see past the fact that you and your god coach Urban Meyer also just lost 3 in a row. Sweet your front porch first gator fans before you talk about anyone else. It’s been a couple years since the gatos lost 3, (and a good chance 4 this year). Does that mean your program is going down the tube? Shoud you run right out and fire Meyer?

Ugalee

November 2nd, 2010
11:14 pm

sweet=sweep, figured i’d fix it for the spell check nazi’s lol

Reality Check

November 2nd, 2010
11:15 pm

@ckgator,

Oh by all means then, the writer in Sports Illustrated is the “be all, end all”. Check this ck, see where UGA is historically in all time wins and loses compared to your program that only became relavant in the last 20 years. The writer didn’t do his homework, and you are just shooting your mouth off, beat it.

Bulldog Joe

November 2nd, 2010
11:22 pm

Tony Blowhart,

You are the eptimoe of AJ-C “sports” writers. You are a bunch of little girls, all of you.

You, of all, know the LEAST about college football

Often you are wrong.

B.S. Always you are wrong.

CMR is not the problem. The problem is this Head Coach has NEVER hired a good coaching staff.

How we are to believe that he can or will now, is beyond me.

dogfish

November 2nd, 2010
11:24 pm

I read someone’s post earlier that believed Richt was the third best coach in the SEC. Wow.
What Spurrier has done with 2 & 3 star recruits at SC is phenomial. Now he’s starting to get 4 & 5 star recruits who used to go elsewhere. Anybody notice their 5 star running back?
SC is becoming a power.
Look what Dan Mullen has done with even less talent at Miss State. Does anybody doubt they too will start to attract better talent and continue to improve.
Auburn is on the Rise under Chiczik. Aren’t they ranked #1? Or is it #2?
I’d love to see UGA just in the top 20!
Alabama is Alabama
Florida will return next year. AND Florida has won 2 NT’s, Like LSU, in the last 10 years!!
LSU is, well kinda in the same boat with UGA, but they at least won 2 NT’s

That leaves GEORGIA in the bottom half of the SEC. With Vandy and Kentucky, with whom we are 2 & 2 with over the last 2 years. See a pattern? Thats going to be the pecking order until Richt is replaced. He can’t coach with any of the above coaches with the possible exception of Les Miles. But don’t forget Les does have NT!

Who in their right mind would believe RICHT is in the TOP 3???
HE’S NOT EVEN IN THE TOP 6 of the SEC!!!

Gatorbait

November 2nd, 2010
11:25 pm

Gator Nation agrees with you Tony. Richt is doing a great job. Keep him at UGA please. We need a sure win on our schedule each year.

Richard Dawson

November 2nd, 2010
11:27 pm

Tony, you ARE wrong.

FIRE MARK RICHT.

EMBRACE EXCELLENCE.

emsutt1

November 2nd, 2010
11:38 pm

Yeah Mark should be keep,but a a leader I am beginning to question his abilities. Urban Myer changed his offense because it was not working. Others have changed things on their defense when what they are ding has not worked, So far we have an offense that everyone in the country knows what the next play will be (no creativity) and he has done nothing to correct the issue until the second half last week. Where is the short passing game other than the quick screen, Why has the tight end been left out of the offense so far this season and why is it that the defense always becomes conservative at 3rd and 15 only to give up 17 yards. When you are in charge take charge! If not go ahead and quit. Lead follow or get out of the way!

SuperB

November 3rd, 2010
12:06 am

To quote J. R. Ewing: “Excuses, excuses, I’ve heard enough excuses Bobby.” Blair Walsh did not kick a field goal in overtime, Sanders Commings does not fall on the ball, and Mike Bobo did call those 3 bad plays in overtime.

Excuses are for losers. Georgia is 12-10 in their last 22 games. Somebody CAN do a better job than Richt and Bobo. In the SEC, a lot of somebodys are doing a better job right now– not 5 years ago!

Big Dawg

November 3rd, 2010
12:39 am

Very flimsy argument Tony and far too many excuses. Based on too many ‘what ifs’ and not enough facts. 2 wins, 8 losses against Florida are the facts, and these are not even close to the standards we should hold our coaching staff to. You disappoint me with this article. Review the hard cold facts and you’ll find your answer, Richt needs to go. 10 years is long enough to get the job done, now it’s time to give someone else a chance.

BoWeevil

November 3rd, 2010
1:20 am

“Come on; stop trying to straddle the fence about Richt. Either you like him or you don’t.”

I told you so.

Over 12 months now, CMR will have fired every single coach he hired

How is it that now we are to believe that all of a sudden CMR will hire a coaching staff ?

Good luck CMR in your next job where beating cupcakes is good enough son.

42-19 the last 5 years now this season, 20 programs better

13-12 vs SEC East the last 5 years now this season, 1 opponent good

# 2 worst in the nation in Arrests / Suspensions the last 5 years

We lose 14 seniors and about 4 juniors after 2010, how 2011 better?

Over 10 years, 10 losses to teams not even Top 25 Final AP Poll

Over 10 years, 11 games vs Top 10 Final AP Poll teams, 8 losses

Over 10 years, 10 games vs Florida, 8 losses

Over 10 years, too much taunting of our opponents, opponents we lost to

Over 10 years, I have heard more than enough excuses for 120 Arrests

2-6 Louisiana Lafayette record all year

2-6 vols record all year

2-6 Vandie record all year

4-5 Kentucky record all year

1-8 Idaho State record all year

11-31 combined record of ALL our “wins” entire 2010

BoWeevil

November 3rd, 2010
1:21 am

These are our only “wins”

It is not like this is the only CMR Era season where we didn’t beat anybody

I defy you to show me a season where we beat the good teams

We have not done it. Not once.

Hot damn, we are great.

Over 10 years, CMR Era features an average of # 8 recruiting class

Over 10 years, CMR Era features an average of 3 point 3 losses year

3 losses in a year means no SEC Championship Game appearance

3.3 losses a year even more so

Over 10 years, 33 losses (assumes we beat Georgia tek)

8 of the 10 years, were 14-game seasons

33 losses means didn’t get extra game SEC Championship Game 7 of 10 years

2001, 2004, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010.

That is 7 more games we could have played in 10 years.

We have not had a season where we beat good teams, none of 10.

BoWeevil

November 3rd, 2010
1:22 am

Bluto saying Regression to the Mean is Ludicrous as are all his statements, ever. CMR did better with Jim Donnan Recruits than with his own. This is the single biggest truth. CMR also played in a down SEC in 2002 where only Auburn was ranked in the Top 25 Final Coaches’ Poll for example with us. 2007 LSU beat a ton of top-ranked Final AP & Coaches’ Polls teams; we did not and we lost to the likes of 6-6 no bowl game South Carolina. David Greene beat 1 Top 10 Final AP Poll team his entire career here # 4 vols 2001, and he lost 4 games that season. DJ Shockley beat 1 Top 10 Final AP Poll team his 1 year # 6 LSU for The SEC Championship 2005 and still CMR lost 3 games that year. Matthew Stafford beat 1 Top 10 Final AP Poll team in his entire career here # 9 Auburn in 2006, and he lost 4 games that season too. In all the other 8 of 11 total games vs Top 10 Final AP Poll teams, CMR has lost all 8. This is not regression to the mean Bluto you blithering idiot, it is what CMR has done all along – lose to the good teams. Not once has Coach Richt beat a Top 10 Final AP Poll team in ANY bowl game on the then National Stage. We aren’t Elite and have not been Elite in the CMR Era. CMR’s biggest failure is that we are to now believe that all of a sudden now, he can hire a “coaching staff” when over the last 12 months, he will have FIRED them ALL that he did hire.

I hardly think CMR knocked the Lid off the # 11 Program All-Time in Wins by beating # 4 vols 2001 when he LOST 4 games that season. And, he hasn’t knocked the lid off since, either.

Did I miss it Afghan Dawg, or did you just not list one comment about # 2 Fulmer Cup Rankings 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010 the last five years now, the second worst in the nation in Arrests / Suspensions ?

Florida Dawg

November 3rd, 2010
1:49 am

I’ve read several hundred comments against the program and many make as much sense as your comments Tony.
NO mention of the 30 arrests…Richt record no different than Donnan the past several years,
too many what IF’s, Miss State, Auburn, South Carolina is also passing us by.
Like the mention of 30 million, if it’s 20 million…where are the dividends?
To me, and I will NEVER forget this because I live in Jacksonville, Richt said when he was hired he knew that he had to beat Florida…he SAID it was discussed. Why didn’t you bring up that specific point Tony?
Adams and Dooley HAD to let him know that winning one or two times every ten years “ain’t” going to cut it.
So now we have a new DC who makes $750,000 a year and thinks a childish “choke” signal will cause a replacement Florida kicker to miss…REALLY!

Florida Dawg

November 3rd, 2010
1:57 am

BoWeevil…I just read your comments above and think your research is excellent.
You actually should have written this for the newspaper.
Certainly a more eye opening approach. You need to repeat this on another thread…all very insightful. Thanks

BoWeevil

November 3rd, 2010
2:20 am

Thanks Florida Dawg,

I am pretty fed up with it.

I am to the point that when we play a game, I really don’t want to go to the game or watch it any longer.

I am so ashamed of our actions off the field, and even more so with the taunting on the field of opponents who BEAT US. That is who we taunt.

Jack

November 3rd, 2010
2:28 am

Sure glad you’re not my stockbroker – I’d be bust!

Al Dawg

November 3rd, 2010
2:35 am

Mark Richt is a great football coach. Oh how some forget the misery Dawg fans experienced during the Goff and Donnan eras.

Al Dawg

November 3rd, 2010
2:41 am

Yes, we are trending downwards, but I truly believe that we have our QB of the future now. QBs are what win championships…David Greene and DJ Shockley were great college QBs. Aaron Murray is in place…now recruit linemen to protect him and playmakers to catch and run the ball.

And DEFENSE…PLEASE…DEFENSE!!!

I do like this Grantham guy…we just need our kids to play assignment football. Too many busted coverages.

BoWeevil

November 3rd, 2010
5:21 am

Al Dawg,

That’s nice you have so much confidence in a staff which has gone 13-12 vs SEC opponents over the last 5 years, a staff who cannot convince the recruits to come here, a staff who cannot come close to insisting on any discipline on the field taunting every opponent only to lose to them, a staff who provides no discipline off the field, a staff who has lost 10 games in 10 years against teams who are not even Top 25 Final AP Poll teams, a staff who has lost 8 of the 11 games played in 10 years time against Top 10 Final AP Poll teams, and a staff who has lost 8 games against Florida in 10 tries. I am so glad you are satisfied with this and so scared that we might end up with a worse staff.

VADAWG

November 3rd, 2010
6:08 am

Coach Richt will get another year to fix the team. I do not believe it will make any positive difference. Coach Richt has been trying to fix the team for the last several years and things have gotten progressively worse every year. This year is not a blip, it is part of a general decline in our football program. It began with the disgraceful loss to West Virginia in the Sugar Bowl, and with the exception of the 2007 season it has been pretty disappointing. There is something fundamentally wrong with the football program and I am not sure was it is, but I am sure Coach Richt is not the man to fix it. He looks like a man who has lost his fire and is just going through the motions. I hope I am wrong but next year will probably be even worse. All that said no matter what happens I will be a loyal DAWG win, lose or draw until my dying day.

BoWeevil

November 3rd, 2010
6:14 am

I just love these “fans” who say that (1) we are so damn great, (2) who say that we forget how bad it was under Ray Goff which they will say into perpetuity, and who say that (3) we aren’t fans for settling for all this B.S. in this football program off the field and on it.

BoWeevil

November 3rd, 2010
6:25 am

What we need here is a real head football coach. A proven head football coach. Someone who specifically knows how to hire a coaching staff. And, while I am at it, one who understands the Separation of Church and State.

BoWeevil

November 3rd, 2010
6:26 am

We also need some fans who have a pair

DawgFan

November 3rd, 2010
6:38 am

I agree and thank you for saying what I’ve have been thinking. The trend at UGA is up over the last 4 games and yes that includes the UF loss which was hard fought and could have gone either way. Since the UT game Georgia has played well and I see a bright future ahead. I also remember how tough things were before Mark Richt to think about letting him go over this.

T. Tindall

November 3rd, 2010
6:49 am

I agree with most of what you have to say here, but take a look at the last statement. What you will uncover is the root of the problem. CMR has done an extremely poor job of making his staff accountable and making the adjustments when needed. How long did it take him to free the Bulldawg nation of Willie? I hope you are correct this time and he is pushed to truly take a hard look at his staff. Let’s start with the strength and conditioning, you have an idea there. I would love nothing better than to see CMR become a big time winner again in Athens.

Bulldog59

November 3rd, 2010
7:11 am

The program is trending upward, just not as quickly as we all would like.

Bottom line, Murray had a bad game, and cost us the Florida game. After the INT on the first pass to AJ, he got rattled, virtually ignored his star receiver, and was rushing his throws to everyone else. It happens, he’s a RFr. making his 9th start. He’ll learn from it….

Richt isn’t going anywhere. Sounds as though he and McGarity have already begun discussions on the areas that need improvement.

TB is correct about upgrading our strength and conditioning. Coach Van Halanger has heart issues, and is rumored to be retiring at the end of this year. Supposedly, we are looking to overhaul and upgrade this part of the program anyway. To that end, Arizona Cardinals strength and conditioning coach, John Lott, was seen on the sidelines a few weeks ago in Athens.

Look for McGarity to give Richt an open checkbook to upgrade the areas of concern, more notably than strength and conditioning, is the offense staff. Expect a Thanksgiving Day Massacre similar to what happened to Wille and Co. right after the GT game last year. Bobo and friends may feel like a lot of Democratic congressmen feel this morning, unemployed.

Dawgboy

November 3rd, 2010
7:18 am

Keep Richt. It’s going to get worse next year anyway. Experienced OL gone. Houston and Green likely gone. Heavy graduation losses. This was the year they could have won the East but I am afraid that will be relinquished to UF and USCe for the next few years. In fact, I see USCe running off some impressive seasons the next few years. Yes, Spurrier will put nails in the Richt coffin and continue to frustrate and taunt UGA.

JB

November 3rd, 2010
7:57 am

bobo is going nowhere……..maybe demoted, but a pretty decent recruiter I’ve heard…..

munsondawg

November 3rd, 2010
8:42 am

Keep Richt. There will be a whole new set of fools that will buy season tickets hoping for a great season.

AceDawg

November 3rd, 2010
8:58 am

This is about entertainment. That’s all football is. I have a feeling I’d be more entertained with a different head coach.

BullDawgWillie

November 3rd, 2010
9:01 am

Thanks Tony and you are right on. Unfortunately, we have a lot of readers who are into instant gratification. Many of them appear to buy into the “what have you done for me lately” mentality. As a 2 year letterman at UGa (60’s) I am easily as upset as everyone else, but I think we need to give CMR another year. Let’s all chill-out and support our Dawgs…..they have played pretty darn well the last 4 weeks. Thanks again Tony for calling it like it is.

Jackson

November 3rd, 2010
9:41 am

What about Phil Fulmer and Tommy Tubervile’s body of work???????

SouthGADawg

November 3rd, 2010
10:11 am

OK, This year was very disapointing to say the least. UGA should have been alot better than this but firing CMR will not fix it. Let CMR do his thing and work the bugs out. This GA team is miles ahead of the team last year. UGA looks great but have not been finishing the game. Defence is looking really good secondary is still confused. Rambo needs to be replaced. If he was replaced with Ogeltree we would not have the record that we have. Only the GT fans want CHANGE for UGA. I wonder if all of the idiots that want change voted for OBOMA, how is he working out for you?

bill

November 3rd, 2010
11:04 am

Excellent analysis. If we fired Richt after this season after the success he’s had (including graduating his players) no established Head Coach or top notch Coordinator would even consider coming to Georgia.

gatordowneast

November 3rd, 2010
11:11 am

Have not read through responses, but I would add that Richt has a better record (winning %) than Vince Dooley. Dooley won a NC and 6 SEC’s but the league had 10 teams, no championship game and Florida was an under-performing, poorly coached team in those years and Tennessee was inconsistent. Essentially it was a four team league (AL, Aub, LSU and UGA)

NewnanDawg

November 3rd, 2010
11:27 am

Three out of the last five years, we are .500 or worse in the SEC. Acceptable at Ole Miss. Not acceptable at UGA.

Next year is a rebuilding year. Most of our “good” players will be gone. We returned 18 starters this year and are terrible. No excuse.

Man Thought

November 3rd, 2010
12:18 pm

You have said what I have been preaching all year….Every coach has to step up and do their job and answer for their preformance this year..Georgia has not done the things to keep up with Fla and Ala. Look at the preseason when Ritch didn’t do conditioning drills like normal, and the tackling and blocking paid for it.We will have a (5-7) season due to to this mistake in coaching… Ritch has to held responsible for this huge mistake. By taking away some money or putting him on probation, (should be both). This thing the defensive coach did saturday is for less harmful than what Ritch has done.
Ritch has made Georgia a laughing stock of football!!!!!

William

November 3rd, 2010
12:36 pm

Tony, you are right but could have made a much stronger argument in Richt’s favor, based on his overall record compared to other top coaches in the country.
Some people don’t think character and integrity are issues when it comes to coaching and winning football games but I know without a doubt where I would want my son to play and who I would want his head coach to be to have both the chance of national noteriety but also be have the best role model in college football as his head coach.
Mark’s overall win loss record will swing back to keep his record as one of the top in the country (where it still is by the way).

sunny purdue

November 3rd, 2010
1:54 pm

I agree Tony. Keep Mark Richt. Go GATORS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

droopydawg

November 3rd, 2010
2:05 pm

So football is a game of emotions unless you are a coach and put both hands around your neck, then it is the worst thing EVER.

GA BirdDAWG

November 3rd, 2010
2:16 pm

I completely disagree! UF is not “one of the biggest” rivals for UGA. They are “THE BIGGEST” rival for UGA. Bottom line is he can’t beat UF and he needs to go. It doesn’t matter to me how many 10 win seasons he has because there are very few SEC Championships in there and a BIG ZERO National Championships! The road to both those run through Jacksonville and until UGA turns the series around it will be UF going to Atlanta representing the SEC East. ITS TIME FOR CHANGE!!

My Eskimo Friend

November 3rd, 2010
2:46 pm

Gotta disagree on the inconsistency thing. Mark Richt has had undeniably consistent success against the Gators.

Kenny Powers

November 3rd, 2010
3:53 pm

Hopefully he’ll stay engaged with the entire operations going forward. He is/was responsible, or irresponsible for everything that went on. He needs to have the last say in everything and not settle for what his staff thinks is ok. He needs to be able to say no, and instill in every coach and player that there will be consequences for their actions and performance. If he can conduct himself as a HC and not as a CEO, then it will be like having a new HC. It’s his show, not the DC’s, not the OC’s, not the players, but his and his alone, and this should be made very clear to him by the AD. Put the bus in gear and start going forward.

YALL WISHED CALVIN JOHNSON WENT 2 UGA

November 3rd, 2010
5:51 pm

FIRE THE PREACHERMAN AND SEND HIM BACK TO CHURCH AT FSU!

He Hate Gator

November 3rd, 2010
6:36 pm

Tony those early successful years of Richt were with Donnan recruits, what we have now is Richt’s recruits….big difference….

Smyrnaguy

November 3rd, 2010
6:48 pm

“While there is much to be done to get Georgia football back to elite status in the SEC, I’m not convinced a change at the top is necessary.”

Laughable!! TB, can you HONESTLY say UGA has EVER been ELITE? Face it, any year UGA has won the SEC East or SECCG, the East and/or conference was down. So, with that honest assessment, we have never had, and still do not have, a head coach bring UGA to elite status. 1 NC in the modern era, and not having even played for one in 30 years are simple facts.

butch

November 3rd, 2010
6:59 pm

Excuses, excuses, you win with what you have , this is his team, I think a guy named (at ALA) Kirby might be the right guy to take us back to the top!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Clay Dawg

November 4th, 2010
1:31 am

I agree, Tony. Unfortunately, this season is gone. I still love the Dawgs and I still believe Richt is the right man for the job. No one can deny that we’ve had crappy luck this year. I like Grantham and his style. Our defense is a thousand times better than last year, and it’s only gonna get better next year. I’m not going to let the Dawg’s struggles ruin college football season for me this year. I wish things had turned out better. Now I’m gonna root for the Dawgs to win the last three games, the Gators to lose everything, and I’m gonna root for an SEC team, hopefully Alabama, to win the National Championship. Let’s all stop whining, get behind our team and our coach, finish strong, come out next year with everyone thinking we are a joke, and let’s prove everybody wrong. Ride it out, Dawg Fans. You’ll be glad you did.

Clay Dawg

November 4th, 2010
1:41 am

What has Kirby Smart proven? Everyone knows Saban is the defensive guru over there. Anyone who thinks Smart can beat Saban is crazy. Will Muschamp? Texas can have him. Iowa State? Baylor? UCLA? Come on, people. Nobody has answered this question yet: Who is available that is better than Richt? Gonna hire the next Saban? Who is it? Somebody tell me. It ain’t Chris Peterson. It ain’t Rich Rodriguez. I don’t want those guys down here. Dan Mullen? Who is it? The best person for Georgia is Mark Richt. Plain and simple. Have faith. All this whining and moaning could hurt our recruiting. It’s pathetic.

drew

November 4th, 2010
8:01 am

you’re an idoit

Canton DAWG

November 4th, 2010
12:14 pm

Tony: Your article right on. Only problem is why do you say Mark should remain for only the “2011 season”? I really like the way Mark and Bobo handle the QBs. Give them three more years with Murray and UGA will win another SEC champtionship if the defense can learn this new 3/4 system. Also, Mark needs to stop kicking players off the team. He needs to keep them on the team so he can have the control to change their behavior and change their lives for the positive. A three strike policy should be implemented. Only after strike three should the player be dismised.

Steve

November 4th, 2010
4:38 pm

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Steve

November 4th, 2010
4:56 pm

Tony, I agree that Richt should remain as our Head Football Coach. At the risk of being classified as a cool-aid drinker, I would like to defend Richt’s record against Florida. There is no question in my mind that GA. has a better team than Fla. this year and the only reason Fla. won is because they had two weeks to get ready for the game. I would like to point out that Fla. has had 6 open dates before the GA. game since Richt has been @ GA. and they are 6-0 in those games. In the other 4 games Fla. is 2-2. GA. has had 2 open dates before the Fla. game in that time and they are 1-1. I have a feeling that Mr. MaGarity will not let this trend continue. He was probably the man at who was doing the schedule @Fla. and laughing @ our Athletic Department for letting it happen.

Joey

November 4th, 2010
9:09 pm

Very good Tony. And if A.J. Green returns for a Senior season, I”m thinking not only SEC Title, but National Title!!!!!! Go Dawgs!!!!!

mr. chas.

November 7th, 2010
3:34 pm

If…If…If….If he would start raising hell with these thugs when they turn the ball over! If he would show some real emotion! If he would stop appearing in those silly loser old man’s Ford truck commercials and come out burning the tires off of a bellowing bad a$$ Hemi Ram….Then maybe he could get all of that talent he recruited to play up to par. Hire Larry Blakeney away from Troy. He is a proven motivator and winner.

T Dawg

November 8th, 2010
1:05 am

Mark Richt needs to be the Joe Peterno of UGA. Alot of good point where made in this article and i love the fact im hearing more stories about holding on to Richt. Mark Richt has one of the best track records in all of cllege football, UGA can in no way think bringing in someon new will help. As ive been saying Grantham is going to work out great and is already proving effective. I can only hope everything will work out and Richt stays with UGA forever.

IMPORTANT: Ive heard talks of trustees or something in miami trying to STEAL Richt from us! THAT CANT HAPPEN!!!