The SEC will need some help in the BCS

For the second straight week No. 1 has gotten beat. The first BCS Standings are now in the books. So What Did We Learn?

1. The SEC is going to need some help: You’d have to say that the SEC is in pretty good shape in the first BCS Standings with No. 4 Auburn (7-0), No. 6 LSU (7-0), and No. 8 (6-1) all in the mix and all scheduled to play each other between now and Nov. 26. But the SEC is going to need a little help to get a team to No. 2. I think either No. 1 Oklahoma or No. 2 Oregon is going to have to lose somewhere down the stretch (more on this tomorrow) in order for the SEC  team that emerges from that Auburn-LSU-Alabama round robin to get into one of the top two spots.

What’s the problem, SEC fans ask? The problem is that if one of those three teams wins the SEC championship, it will do it against an SEC East team that will likely have three or more losses. I think an undefeated Auburn or LSU gets there. A one-loss team will be more difficult if Oklahoma and Oregon do not lose.

2. Cameron Newton is on the top of my Heisman Trophy list: First it was Michigan’s Denard Robinson. Then it was Ohio State’s Terrelle Pryor. Both have lost. Right now there is no college football player in America who means more to his team than Auburn’s Cameron Newton. He again had over 300 yards of total offense (188 rushing, 140 passing) as the No. 4 Tigers beat Arkansas 65-43. It was an incredible thing to watch. If Newton leads his team to a victory on Saturday against No. 6 LSU, which has one of the best defenses in the country, he will be everybody’s leading candidate.

3. Florida is a real mess:  The Gators haven’t loss three straight games during the regular season since 1988. Give Mississippi State and Dan Mullen credit. They marched into Gainesville and knew that their defense was good enough to keep a hapless Florida offense in check. Mississippi State ran 58 offensive plays against Florida. Forty-nine of them were running plays. That means Mullen was playing for a low-scoring game because he knew Florida’s offense was not going to score very many points. It’s going to be a very interesting week off down there. Will they make any significant changes because the offense as it is now being run with John Brantley at quarterback is not working. Florida plays Georgia in Jacksonville on Oct. 30.

4. How bad is the SEC East? This bad: Georgia still has a shot. It’s a tall order, but if the Bulldogs win out at Kentucky, Florida and at Auburn they will be 5-3. South Carolina (2-2) has conference games left with Vanderbilt, Tennessee, Arkansas and Florida. Florida (2-3) has games left with Georgia, Vanderbilt and South Carolina. If Georgia wins out, South Carolina loses twice (Arkansas, Florida) and Florida loses only once (to Georgia) then the Bulldogs go. If Georgia beats Florida and loses only to Auburn to finish 4-4, the Bulldogs could still go. Why? If Georgia, Florida, and South Carolina all finish in a tie at 4-4, three of Georgia’s losses would have been in the SEC West (Arkansas, Miss. State, Auburn). Georgia would be 4-1 in the Eastern Division, which is the second tiebreaker. South Carolina would have two losses (Kentucky, Florida) in the division. Florida (which has lost to Alabama, LSU, and Miss. State) would also only have one loss in the division. But Georgia would win the head-to-head to break the tie. None of this matters if Georgia doesn’t beat Kentucky.

5. The ACC Coastal is starts to heat up this week: We said going into this season that the two most competitive divisions in college football would be the SEC West and the ACC Coasal. The SEC West has three teams in the BCS top eight and they are still scheduled to play one another. Virginia Tech (3-0), Georgia Tech (3-1), Miami (2-1), and North Carolina (2-1) are getting ready to play some appointment television. Here is the breakdown:

Virginia Tech: Nov. 4 (Thursday) vs. Georgia Tech; Nov. 13 at North Carolina, Nov. 20 at Miami

Georgia Tech: The Yellow Jackets play at huge game outside the division at Clemson this week followed by an open date. Then it’s Nov. 4 at Virginia Tech, Nov. 13 vs. Miami. the Jackets have already beaten North Carolina.

Miami: Saturday vs. North Carolina; Nov. 13 at Georgia Tech; Nov. 20 vs. Virginia Tech.

North Carolina: Saturday vs. Miami; Nov. 20 vs. Virginia Tech; the Tar Heels’ only ACC loss is to Georgia Tech.

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289 comments Add your comment

Jimmy Pritchard

October 18th, 2010
7:32 am

Godzilla is hungry for corn dogs this week. Be afraid, Lester. Be VERY afraid.

@DanWeiner

October 18th, 2010
7:34 am

Cue the SEC apologists saying that Oregon and Oklahoma would lose at least 3 games playing in the SEC while ignoring the fact that Oregon, Oklahoma and Boise St would win the SEC East this year.

Buck Futt

October 18th, 2010
7:39 am

Hell, Troy State could probably win the SEC East this year. So what? They’d still get destroyed by three or four teams from the West.

So what happened to all the...

October 18th, 2010
7:42 am

…bravado of all the “prognosticators” last week who said that Boise State would be #1 when the first BCS rankings came out last night? Boy, do they, and Tony, look dumb this morning…

SOUTHGADAWG88

October 18th, 2010
7:44 am

Boise State would be 7-5 or 8-4 every year in the SEC…have they ever beaten a southern team period?Same thing for Oregon.OKL are bigger choke artist in the Bowls than OSU.Who know how it will shake out this year in the SEC…I think EVERYBODY ends up with at least two losses.Welcome to the NFL minor leagues

Don't worry about the UF offense...

October 18th, 2010
7:46 am

…not scoring points – all of that will be taken care of, as usual, when they get to J-ville to put the beat down – AGAIN – on the hapless Bulldawgs.

And, what has happened to Atlanta Gator, Tampa Gator, BulGator, and all them other Gators, who talked so long and loud about how good they would be without Timmy leading them?

GeezusDawg

October 18th, 2010
7:46 am

3 loss gators …. love it!!!

GeezusDawg

October 18th, 2010
7:47 am

Oregon beat Tennessee this year … that’s southern I think.

Dawg_Mike

October 18th, 2010
7:49 am

Tony, number 4 makes my head spin way too much for a Monday morning.

FLA DAWG

October 18th, 2010
7:51 am

Great call on the Ohio State / Wisconsin Game Tony.
I don’t know how you got that upset. I never would have thought Wisconsin would beat Ohio State (not that I think The Buckeyes are that great of a team).

Yeah, The SEC is in lousy shape this season. They have not been impressive. Even LSU has looked sloppy and very, very lucky in their wins.

Pity The Dawgs melted away beginning Game 2 – it could’ve been a great season for UGA.

kiffinisatosser

October 18th, 2010
7:51 am

You dawg fans should not start to regain hope. It ain’t gonna happen. You should put little store in knocking my Dores around this weekend or busting up the Vols last weekend. These were mere SEC exhibition games.

Reality

October 18th, 2010
7:52 am

@ Dont worry

Dont forget that Urb will also play Rainey in 2 weeks. Count on it.
Of course, if Rainey had threatened his daughter that would have been “going at it” or something like that.
Urb= hypocrite

@DanWeiner

October 18th, 2010
7:52 am

“Boise State would be 7-5 or 8-4 every year in the SEC…”

I LOVE the logic of SEC fans. if Boise played in the SEC they’d be able to recruit better (or more highly thought of in recruiting circles) players than the good ones Petersen molds into great college players.

82Dawg

October 18th, 2010
7:52 am

Where is Atlanta Gator, 17 of 20, Ga Gator, I95? Haven’t heard anything out of them lately…..

Mike

October 18th, 2010
7:59 am

Cam Newton is the leader for the Heisman at the halfway mark. No way an SEC team is getting in the title game this year. Oklahoma and Oregon will not lose.

SOUTHGADAWG88

October 18th, 2010
7:59 am

If one of the 3 SEC schools run the table they wont need any help..they would have finished the season with wins over two teams in the BCS top 10.There wont be another school that can make that claim.I think the BCS buster thing is about to be debunked this year too.BSU and TCU wont get to the NC game and both will get blown out in their bowl game.

notthisyear

October 18th, 2010
7:59 am

hate on haters!!! your life must be great these days watching the gators.You may need to take care of your own team? The party in Jax this year,Well the winner has NOTHING to really brag about!!!

SOUTHGADAWG88

October 18th, 2010
8:00 am

You don’t know if they would recruit any better than SC or Kent in the SEC.

ATL is TigerTown

October 18th, 2010
8:02 am

War Cam Eagle!
Guess who said SC would beat UAT and that Miss St would beat Florida. Hint: it was me.
I have a pretty good feeling about Auburn taking care of LSWho this weekend.
If I’m hapless, I probably don’t refer to someone else as hapless.

SOUTHGADAWG88

October 18th, 2010
8:03 am

BSU have better recruits than their peers in their league which is why they win.

SOUTHGADAWG88

October 18th, 2010
8:04 am

Not sold yet on AUB…can they stop ANYBODY?

Dontavius Supremo

October 18th, 2010
8:10 am

Auburn has a supremely strong offense, which will overcome any weaknesses on defense. Love watching that Tiger team play football. Georgia has yet to beat anyone with a winning record, so let’s reserve judgment. Florida is still Florida, and you can bet they will toughen up (just as Georgia has.) As far as ACC football is concerned, I find it difficult to find anyone this year who cares. FSU beating BC in a great game just highlights the fact thety they are in the wrong conference.

MMA is stupid

October 18th, 2010
8:23 am

My God,nothing is sweeter than watching Florida fans cry. That is what you get…you all think that you are just entitled to win. All of you that said Brantley will be great…well, we know how that is turning out. I LOVE the pain on the face of the ULTIMATE hypocrite, Meyer. I love seeing all those DB fans in their #15 jerseys with quivering lips.

Fl has the WORST fan base, and I love to see you BURN!!!!

nc4000

October 18th, 2010
8:23 am

hey tony-

how ’bout the refs stealing the game from arkansas like it was a laptop? how do they miss that non-TD/fumble call on the goal line, or the non-fumble/TD a bit later?

gotta wonder how, if those guys were auburn alum or what…

5IML

October 18th, 2010
8:31 am

In regards to national perception, it was a bad weekend for our conference:

1. SEC East is really bad. We like to say the SEC is the toughest conference but at least ten non-SEC teams could win SEC East this year. Thank goodness for the West.

2. Absolutely no defense in our marquee game. We also like to say the Pac10 and Big 12 play no defense. Pot meet kettle. Besides LSU, our entire conference looks suspect (defensively).

Bud

October 18th, 2010
8:32 am

If AJ Green stays healthy and keeps doing what he’s been doing, should he be a candidate for Heisman ?

Mitchell Gantt

October 18th, 2010
8:32 am

Sorry, you bitter Hog losers, but SEC officiating isn’t a conspiracy, they’re just incompetent. Arkansas got at least 14 points Saturday thanks to B.S. holding and interference calls on Auburn. I’m with you 100% that Penn Wagers is a terrible referee (the idiot isn’t even bright enough to get out of the way on a kickoff return), but as usual, you’re whining about being picked on by the zebras is just that–whining. They were blowing calls both ways, and things pretty well evened out.

Beast from the East

October 18th, 2010
8:32 am

The Mighty Gators have fallen into mediocrity. No offense, average defense and they do appear to be missing leadership from the players. Does not appear to be any kind of sense of urgency. At this point, whoever wins the East looks like they will get destroyed by whoever represents the West in Atlanta.

MMA is stupid,
Please re-read your own post for the worst fans. You are the poster child.

meh

October 18th, 2010
8:34 am

the SEC east isn’t bad. It’s good. Everybody’s so good that anyone could be anyone on any given saturday.

[...] The SEC will need some help if it wants a team in the BCS title game, writes Tony Barnhart. (AJC) [...]

PT Dawg

October 18th, 2010
8:37 am

Might wasnt to look at who everyone has lost to before saying they are bad. The east is just not on par with west this yr. USC beat up Bama pretty good. Miss St is obviously pretty good. The bowls will once again show this.

MURPHY

October 18th, 2010
8:38 am

Watched the replay of Au/Ark yesterday-Wow what an entertaining game. Cam “Laptop” Newton is the deal. Where is the AU defense? On vacation this year?

TrishaDishaWarEagle,
Told you Miss St would beat the Gaytors!!!

Im not drinking anymore Carolina kool-aid. Cant believe Spurrier and the boys let that one slip away.

Glad to see my Dawgs play a great game. Our defense is finally turning the corner,but still concerned about our pass defense. The competition is about to get much better staring this week.

5IML

October 18th, 2010
8:39 am

meh,

As they would say in the ACC, there is a lot of “parity” in the East.

5IML

October 18th, 2010
8:40 am

PT Dawg,

USC over BAMA is the only quality win for the East v. West.

Beast from the East

October 18th, 2010
8:41 am

PT Dawg,
You may be correct, but I wouldn’t take UF or UGA over any team with an above .500 record right now. Neither has proven they can beat a “good” team yet. While UGA is showing signs of improvement, UF continues to get worse each week with the exception of the Kentucky game.

Tim Tebow

October 18th, 2010
8:43 am

Who needs a good cry?

Beast from the East

October 18th, 2010
8:45 am

Tony,
I’m with you on Cam Newton. Until someone can stop him, it’s his for the taking. The guy continues to get better every week. Man, if Auburn had a defense they would be unstoppable. As it is, they’ll have to continue to “outscore” opponents if they want to run the table. Too bad they don’t play my Gators this year….that would certainly help their defense’s confidence (LOL)!

3rdn8

October 18th, 2010
8:46 am

agree with TB….the SEC East is a mess this year.

AU can go 13-0, and still not make the show. As good as the AU offense is, I still have my doubts that they will run the table. They’ll need a defense to win one of their big games (4 of ‘em) going down the stretch, and am not sure they have one available.

LSU is the negative print of AU. They’ll need an offense…and soon…to win out. Don’t see that happening.

The thing that the media has ignored in the reporting on Bama is their offensive line. When Bama hit the part of the schedule where teams showed up with good DLs, the running game hit a wall. The defense is starting to look better, but unless the OL improves significantly, Bama will lose one or two more games. Even if they run the table, I don’t see a one loss SEC team making the show unless there is a meltdown in the current BCS Top 5.

Kudos to Dan Mullen. I think the MSU staff has done the best coaching job in the country this year.

gatorhead1013

October 18th, 2010
8:47 am

#1 – An undefeated Auburn or LSU easily slides into one of the top 2 BCS spots. No help needed.

Blue

October 18th, 2010
8:49 am

Boise beat OK in one of the most memorable bowl games (or finishes, at least) in a LONG time. Pretty sure OK is southern. And an SEC team is CERTAINLY not going to take Louisiana Lafayette off their schedule for Boise.

KidRay

October 18th, 2010
8:50 am

Send one up for our DL Eric LeGrand…paralyzed from the neck down. Here’s hoping he walks again. Puts things in perspective.
Go Rutgers!

MURPHY

October 18th, 2010
8:51 am

If Cam”laptop”Newton destroys Lsu like he did the pigs,the Heisman will be his to lose.

3rdn8

October 18th, 2010
8:53 am

KidRay

had not seen the reports on the Rutgers player. You’re right, that does put things in perspective. He’ll get at least one prayer from someone in Alabama for a full recovery.

Superior?

October 18th, 2010
8:55 am

Got to wonder if (old) ball coach is second guessing the time out call.

Ga has a chance to win the sec little east….just shows what an over-rated joke the seldom educated bunch is…

leslie22h

October 18th, 2010
8:56 am

I realize I’m looking a week ahead when Georgia will have a very tough game coming up against Ketucky, and if Georgia loses to UK, this will all be for nought, but once again, Florida has a bye week before playing Georgia.

This year will be Florida’s 14th bye since the game was rescheduled to Halloween Weekend 18 years ago. Of those 13 other GA-FL games already played since that change where Florida has a bye the week before, Florida has won 12. TWELVE. You cannot tell me that having a bye before the Georgia game has not given UF an advantage. Sadly for Georgia, Florida has also won 3 of the 5 non-bye matchups since 1992 as well, which reflects even more poorly on our beloved Bulldogs.

However, few would argue that there is a more intense rivalry in the SEC East than GA vs FL. Why has the University of Georgia and the SEC allowed Florida to have a bye in over two-thirds of the games over the last 18 years? Why did they allow the GA-FL game to be moved up a week starting in 1992 to begin with?

Why would UGA allow a disproportionate number of bye weeks to be scheduled in Florida’s favor over an 18-year stretch? And how many more years before Georgia gets their own bye week advantage over Florida for an 18 or 20 year stretch?

I personally don’t think either team should ever have a bye scheduled before Georgia-Florida. Both teams should come in bruised, battered, and ragged.

It may not matter this year. Both teams stink. But I hate to know that in a year when both teams are struggling, CUM ( I love using those initials!) will have an extra week to study Georgia on film and develop a game plan tailored specifically for Georgia, while CMR has to set his sights on UK first.

Unfair Advantage… again: Florida

Bravesfan79

October 18th, 2010
8:58 am

NO SEC team will go unbeaten! Both Auburn and LSU will loose eventually. This dosent mean the SEC dosent have the top team in the nation however. Of course, we will never know this, because of the crappy non-playoff system in place. Any true SEC fan should be rooting for Boise State right now to go to the National Title game and win it all. That is something that could change college football for the better! Ps… there is no way Oregon is better than Boise State.

DawgnGA

October 18th, 2010
8:58 am

Glad My Dawgs are in the West. Feeling good , Lot of season left, just taking a deep breath for the stretch run..

5IML

October 18th, 2010
8:59 am

The Ol Ball Coach has blown two games this year:

1. Pulling Garcia in Auburn
2. Calling last timeout with 11 seconds to go at UK

And, I repeat, his coaching had nothing to do with the win over BAMA. It as the players. We can now overreact by calling Spurrier a has-been, again.

Chris

October 18th, 2010
8:59 am

War Damn Eagle! It’s great to be an Auburn Tiger!

Another Ed

October 18th, 2010
9:00 am

I don’t know if Cam Newton is the best player in college football, but I do think he is the most important player to his team. At this point, the Auburn offense looks unstoppable. I keep hearing people say that he will hit hard and the Tigers will be hurting, yet I never see him take a hard hit. He dishes out more than he takes. And he is bigger than a lot of linebackers! I am a fan of another school in the SEC, yet I sure am not looking forward to playing against him.
Now the Auburn defense is another thing. I would have a hard time proclaiming Auburn as the #1 team in the country because of their D. You look at their O and the O from Oregon, and I figure it is a tossup for best in the country. Yet when you include the D from each team, it leaves you wondering. We see this a bunch: when a team has a weak defense and must rely on scoring a ton of points, they often get bit on the butt. At some point the O will be out of sync or the D from the other team plays out of this world or the weather plays havoc or something goes crazy with the game. All that said, at this point, Auburn’s O looks capable of running the table.