The SEC will need some help in the BCS

For the second straight week No. 1 has gotten beat. The first BCS Standings are now in the books. So What Did We Learn?

1. The SEC is going to need some help: You’d have to say that the SEC is in pretty good shape in the first BCS Standings with No. 4 Auburn (7-0), No. 6 LSU (7-0), and No. 8 (6-1) all in the mix and all scheduled to play each other between now and Nov. 26. But the SEC is going to need a little help to get a team to No. 2. I think either No. 1 Oklahoma or No. 2 Oregon is going to have to lose somewhere down the stretch (more on this tomorrow) in order for the SEC  team that emerges from that Auburn-LSU-Alabama round robin to get into one of the top two spots.

What’s the problem, SEC fans ask? The problem is that if one of those three teams wins the SEC championship, it will do it against an SEC East team that will likely have three or more losses. I think an undefeated Auburn or LSU gets there. A one-loss team will be more difficult if Oklahoma and Oregon do not lose.

2. Cameron Newton is on the top of my Heisman Trophy list: First it was Michigan’s Denard Robinson. Then it was Ohio State’s Terrelle Pryor. Both have lost. Right now there is no college football player in America who means more to his team than Auburn’s Cameron Newton. He again had over 300 yards of total offense (188 rushing, 140 passing) as the No. 4 Tigers beat Arkansas 65-43. It was an incredible thing to watch. If Newton leads his team to a victory on Saturday against No. 6 LSU, which has one of the best defenses in the country, he will be everybody’s leading candidate.

3. Florida is a real mess:  The Gators haven’t loss three straight games during the regular season since 1988. Give Mississippi State and Dan Mullen credit. They marched into Gainesville and knew that their defense was good enough to keep a hapless Florida offense in check. Mississippi State ran 58 offensive plays against Florida. Forty-nine of them were running plays. That means Mullen was playing for a low-scoring game because he knew Florida’s offense was not going to score very many points. It’s going to be a very interesting week off down there. Will they make any significant changes because the offense as it is now being run with John Brantley at quarterback is not working. Florida plays Georgia in Jacksonville on Oct. 30.

4. How bad is the SEC East? This bad: Georgia still has a shot. It’s a tall order, but if the Bulldogs win out at Kentucky, Florida and at Auburn they will be 5-3. South Carolina (2-2) has conference games left with Vanderbilt, Tennessee, Arkansas and Florida. Florida (2-3) has games left with Georgia, Vanderbilt and South Carolina. If Georgia wins out, South Carolina loses twice (Arkansas, Florida) and Florida loses only once (to Georgia) then the Bulldogs go. If Georgia beats Florida and loses only to Auburn to finish 4-4, the Bulldogs could still go. Why? If Georgia, Florida, and South Carolina all finish in a tie at 4-4, three of Georgia’s losses would have been in the SEC West (Arkansas, Miss. State, Auburn). Georgia would be 4-1 in the Eastern Division, which is the second tiebreaker. South Carolina would have two losses (Kentucky, Florida) in the division. Florida (which has lost to Alabama, LSU, and Miss. State) would also only have one loss in the division. But Georgia would win the head-to-head to break the tie. None of this matters if Georgia doesn’t beat Kentucky.

5. The ACC Coastal is starts to heat up this week: We said going into this season that the two most competitive divisions in college football would be the SEC West and the ACC Coasal. The SEC West has three teams in the BCS top eight and they are still scheduled to play one another. Virginia Tech (3-0), Georgia Tech (3-1), Miami (2-1), and North Carolina (2-1) are getting ready to play some appointment television. Here is the breakdown:

Virginia Tech: Nov. 4 (Thursday) vs. Georgia Tech; Nov. 13 at North Carolina, Nov. 20 at Miami

Georgia Tech: The Yellow Jackets play at huge game outside the division at Clemson this week followed by an open date. Then it’s Nov. 4 at Virginia Tech, Nov. 13 vs. Miami. the Jackets have already beaten North Carolina.

Miami: Saturday vs. North Carolina; Nov. 13 at Georgia Tech; Nov. 20 vs. Virginia Tech.

North Carolina: Saturday vs. Miami; Nov. 20 vs. Virginia Tech; the Tar Heels’ only ACC loss is to Georgia Tech.

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289 comments Add your comment

Phil

October 18th, 2010
3:42 pm

SadDawg

I guess I don’t get your point. Cam Newton got into trouble while at Florida. My point was did Richt and Georgia not recruit him? Did they not see his potential in high school? It’s hard to imagine he was right under their nose and they didn’t go after him. He’s a heck of a player, that’s my point.

LLoyd Christmas

October 18th, 2010
3:45 pm

UGA Insider – you ain’t got nothin inside yo head boy! You are dumber than I am! Koolaid!!!!!!!!

Soy un perdedor

October 18th, 2010
3:45 pm

@rhett

Teams tend to lose a lot of games after a bye week. Wonder if that has anything to do with which week they choose to take for a bye?

Alabama beat Penn State and Arkansas. They have a very good shot at winning the other two games that you mentioned. There are no excuses, but there are 6 SEC teams who chose to take their bye before playing Bama. Can’t really say that I blame them.

LLoyd Christmas

October 18th, 2010
3:47 pm

AJ is gone. And, he will get broken into about three pieces in the NFL. Now Julio is a different matter.

MURPHY

October 18th, 2010
3:53 pm

A.J and J.J are 2 different types of recievers. A.J more finess,speed.
J.J big body more physical. Julio is probably more suited for the pounding of the NFL,but I wouldnt count A.J out. In my personal opinion I would take A.J over Julio on my college team. Both are tremendous players and have lived up to all the 5 star hype from high school

BAMA dude

October 18th, 2010
4:19 pm

I’m done talking about JJ and AJ. As I said last week, you folks can have it- UGA ain’t got much going for them this year. If it makes you feel better to say that AJ Green is an all around better player than Julio Jones, go ahead. Just don’t be surprised if their NFL careers prove otherwise.

Soy un perdedor

October 18th, 2010
4:19 pm

AJ is a good receiver, but Georgia can’t really compete with Alabama when it comes to place-kick holders.

SadDawg

October 18th, 2010
4:23 pm

Oh, Phil, I didn’t know you were aware of Cam’s UF deal. He is, to me a greater pas/run threat than Ohio States Pryor because of the tougher competition. Don’t know how he slipped out of UGA’s and Tech’s fingers, twice!

BAMA dude

October 18th, 2010
4:25 pm

rhett, there are six consecutive SEC opponents coming off bye weeks. Who was our opponent before South Carolina? Florida. Before Ole Miss? South Carolina. Now we have Tennessee after Ole Miss. What’s the point here? Playing a weak opponent is nothing compared to an being off which gives you two weeks to focus on the next opponent. Six straight times it’s Bama that teams will spend an extra week on.

SadDawg

October 18th, 2010
4:31 pm

Right, BAMA dude, they were each rated #1 in high by rating services, and they will both be top 10 picks in the NFL.

I wonder what’s gonna happen with these underclassmen if there is, and everybody says there will be, a lock-out in February?

MURPHY

October 18th, 2010
4:55 pm

SadDawg,

They spoke about Cam going to Florida instead of Auburn on the telecast. He wanted to orginally go to Auburn but decided on Fla when Au took(the guy that now play reciever for Au-was q.b last year).I believe they said Au was Cam’s first choice comming out of high school

MURPHY

October 18th, 2010
4:58 pm

I know why we didnt recruit Cam but for god sakes why didnt we offer that freshman running back AU has? #5 he is a stud!

sam mohave

October 18th, 2010
5:11 pm

Does being an sec fan even make sense? Have you ever heard of a big 10, big 12 or pac 10 fan? I haven’t. Only individual team fans in all other conferences. Love how you “sec fans” act like the sec is all one big team. Cracks me up.

Maybe you should all get together and decide who you are going to let go undefeated, that way your sure ot get in the NC game every year.

MURPHY

October 18th, 2010
5:16 pm

sam mohave,

Big 10? NO! Big 12? NO! Only thing Big about the conferences is they CHOKE REAL BIG IN THE BIG GAME!

Pac 10? NO!-They do have entertaining football though.

SEC-Yep Last 4 National Championships!! No thanks sam,I will stick with a Championship Conference.

DAWG07

October 18th, 2010
5:40 pm

Will Saban been coaching the Cowboys next year. Maybe,
If he is up to it. Unlike the other college coaches who retreated back to college don’t think he is the type to give up. Personally, think he can win in the NFL given some time. Can’t say that about the others.

Tide Rising

October 18th, 2010
5:47 pm

Dawg07,

Can’t see Saban at Dallas. He and Jerry Jones both are control freaks with egos the size of shall we say Texas. It would be a terrible fit. Besides, Saban took a million dollar pay cut to leave Miami to go back to the college game. He’s done with the pros and he later acknowledged that 2 months after he left LSU he knew he had made a mistake because he loved the college game much more. He can also have much more control in college than in the pros as far as personnel goes. In the college game he can go out and get who you want. In the pros you’re at the mercy of your turn in the draft.

I know you guys are dreaming all the time about him leaving Bama but you might as well just reconcile to yourselves the fact that he’s going to finish out his career at Bama. If he wasn’t than I seriously doubt his daughter would have enrolled there last year and I seriously doubt he would have announced a million dollar gift to the university scholarship fund to be donated over 10 years. Does that sound like someone who is leaving?

Auburn Redhead

October 18th, 2010
5:47 pm

Wah..Alabama needs to stop whining. Let’s put things into perspective. Let’s GIVE those two so-called questionalble calls BACK to Arkansas. I apologize you Bama folk didn’t learn basic math but we won by 22!! Take away 14 and you have 8! EIGHT! Last time I checked 51 is still more than 43. Blame your grade school teacher if you can’t decipher what number is more than another…not AU and the coaching officials!

Aside, there were a few questionable calls that went to Arkansas as well so it worked out. As for the “second” quarterback everyone is questioning? Has anyone looked at his high school stats? He was recruited for a reason, much like Ryan Mallett. AND truth be known, Arkansas would NOT have scored as high with Mallett because HE is the one ALL teams studies the week before they play him. Auburn had his number and he was NOT going to run the score. As for Garcia and USC? Come on guys! Garcia fumbled TWICE during the start of the game against Auburn and Spurrier yanked him out! You naysayers are saying (what else is new)..if Garcia had been left in, it would have been a different game. For once I agree with you! We would have caused more than TWO fumbles and would have out-scored USC by more than the ending outcome. But my congrats to USC…I was hoping they WOULD go further in the SEC and was SAD to see the loss against Kentucky who is proving to be more fierce than anyone wants to give credit…just as what is happening to Auburn. No credit. No respect. And if Cam Newton IS the team, so what? It only takes one…look how Florida has imploded after the loss of Tebow. Take away Ingram-Richardson from Bama and what do you have? Take away Lattimore from USC and what do you have? Take away AJ Green from Georgia and well, THEY DID, for those first four games and look how they LOST! So the way you nit-pickers are SOO focused on ALL the reasons Auburn is not legit, we can show you an example of the same difference!

I recall some poster last week saying Auburn would take it up the ass from Arkansas and that “high school games were over”. EEEEEVERY week, we hear this same crap. Wait till you play so-and-so. We play them, we beat them. Don’t you all get tired of eating crow! Or perhaps should we say “EAGLE” in this circumstance! Okay…now we’re hearing about LSU. Let’s say we beat them. Then you’ll have some excuse. Oh, wait till they play Georgia. Let’s say we beat them. Then you’ll have some excuse. Oh, then you’ll say wait till they play Bama….starting to see a pattern here?

Now for some class! My dad has BOTH his degrees from AU..(mine from the West Coast for the profession I chose) but he ALWAYS is for Bama when they aren’t playing Auburn. Kudos for BAMA Fan for the same class.

gcs

October 18th, 2010
6:04 pm

Oregon will probably not lose.

Oklahoma has some big wins over some big teams but also have some lame wins over some lame teams (Utah State by 7, Air Force by 3 and Cincinnati by 2). The Sooners will lose a regular season game AND the Big 12 Championship Game to Nebraska.

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GT Alum's boyfriend

October 18th, 2010
6:25 pm

3rdn8, I like you. Roll Tide, Roll.
Tide Rising: I’m one of those few Tide fans who also thinks it would be cool if Auburn won the MNC right after Alabama did.

Folks, here’s why an undefeated Auburn would get in the title game: Cameron Newton. The whole freakin’ college football world has gone CRAZY over him. NO WAY would poll voters let this kid and his UNDEFEATED Auburn Tigers not play for the title. Give that some good thought y’all. Then tell me if you disagree ok?

Let’s see what happens this weekend. More upsets of currently undefeated teams could happen, again.

Fellow SEC fans: I think we need to prepare ourselves for a title game without the SEC champion in it. I’m just saying let’s prepare ourselves in case it happens. Yes it will be so hard to swallow seeing Boise vs. Oregon (or Boise vs. Oklahoma). If that happens, I just hope the 1-loss SEC champion, whomever it is, will play their little hearts out because there might still be a chance to finish No. 1 in the AP Poll, and thus have a split National Championship.

As hard as it will be to swallow, we probably need to let Boise have its moment and chance to prove itself this time.

GT Alum's boyfriend

October 18th, 2010
6:34 pm

Bama Dude: I’d hate to see Auburn beat Alabama. But if they did and they were undefeated, I’d have no problem seeing Auburn win the NC.

I’m from Alabama. I too have a friend who is a huge Auburn fan. Please don’t suggest that a true Alabama fan would not want to see Auburn win the National Title (in the case that Alabama could not win it).

I’ve seen Bama win more mational titles to last me a lifetime. I’m so happy for them all. My friend, who has never seen his Auburn team win a National Title, is imporant to me and I’d be happy for him.

Hope that explains things a little.

Typical Bama Fan

October 18th, 2010
7:37 pm

@Auburn Redhead

What makes you think that everyone mentioning the play-calling in the Auburn game are Alabama fans? Alabama needs Auburn to remain undefeated if they are going to redeem their loss to South Carolina. Cheat if you have to — we don’t mind.

Typical Bama Fan

October 18th, 2010
7:38 pm

@gcs

It’s true that Oregon has no truly challenging games on their schedule — but that doesn’t mean that they won’t lose one. It is the PAC 10, after all.

Tide4u2c

October 18th, 2010
7:39 pm

As much as I don’t like to admit it Auburn has won my respect.I did’nt think they would beat Arkansas and yet they did.The bottom line is Auburn finds a way to win so I respect Auburn now.Alabama could very well lose to Auburn this year if Alabama does’nt come ready to play.

Roll Tide!

Typical Bama Fan

October 18th, 2010
7:40 pm

@sam mohave

You aren’t really expected to understand. It’s a football thing.

Tide4u2c

October 18th, 2010
8:11 pm

I could’nt see Saban in the NFL again period.Saban loves college football too much, he could’ve stayed in the NFL if he wanted to, but he did’nt want to.At Alabama he has a chance to improve his coaching record that was hampered by two years in the NFL.Every job Saban took was a step up before the NFL but there is’nt any higher than Alabama in college football. I know alot of rival fans would love to see Saban leave Alabama but it is just wishful thinking.I can tell Saban loves college football and even coaching at Alabama even with us so-called high-demanding fans. That is funny because Saban said he would’nt want to coach for a team where the fans did’nt have high expectations to win and be dominant and even win championships. I guess that leaves out alot of rival fanss teams who have criticized Bama fans.

Spell Checker

October 18th, 2010
8:12 pm

@Tide4u2c

You deviate from your unique apostrophe placement in contractions when you use the word “don’t”. To adhere to your typical contraction rule, you should spell the contraction for “do not” as “do’nt”. How am I to know if it’s really,/i> you if you violate your own rule?

;-)

Spell Checker

October 18th, 2010
8:14 pm

Ha!

A Typo…

From the Spell Checker ?!?!

I’m getting verrry dizzy…

MaconDawg

October 18th, 2010
8:24 pm

Tony: Have you thought about an article on one of Munson’s greatest calls ever-The 1978 UGA-Kentucy Game played at Lexinton. This KY team was a precursor of the one Fran Curci team that whipped us in Athens, 33-0.
I was a sophomore at UGA at the time and listened to the game at my parents house in the dining room on an AM radio. We got behind almost the whole night and I believe listening to Larry it was pretty cold up there. All the UGA fans had been to tracks before hand so they were primed.

As I am sure you remember, Willie McLendon tore it up that nite and led us on the final drive before Robinson’s winning fg. I remember Larry saying ” I saw his parents at the Marriott, just before the game.” I believe we kicked the field goal with about 5 seconds left, I am not sure Larry ever said it was good. Anyway, one of my favorite Munson Memories.

Silent Observer

October 18th, 2010
8:57 pm

I thought it was 1977 when Kentucky went 10-1, but got put on NCAA probation over recruiting violations? Cursi never had another winning season at Kentucky after that, did he?

brokeback jacket

October 18th, 2010
9:10 pm

Lucky for all the Bama and BYU fans, there will be plenty of seats at tech’s tiny “stadium.” Just like every other home game in the ghetto.

sccatfan1

October 18th, 2010
9:12 pm

UGA Insider…35-40 point victory over UK? Even though our defense is suspect, particularly in the 1st half, I’ll take UK and the points.

We’ll see what your secondary is made of this weekend.

MikeP

October 19th, 2010
12:19 am

If either Auburn or LSU runs the table, they are in the BCS game. The winner will have beaten the teams that already put them in the top six PLUS: LSU or Auburn, whichever one wins, Alabama, which will be in the top ten, and the SEC east champ, which while not great, will out rank whoever Oregon/Boise might play. Auburn or LSU, undefeated, will be BCS #1. The others will be scrambling to see who gets to play them.

The officials followed the rules Saturday in the Auburn/Arky game. While the fumble on the goal line seemed that it might have been before the ball crossed, it also MIGHT have been knocked away from the runner and backward by the defender after it had already crossed the goal line. MIGHT don’t get it. The replay was not conclusive, TD Auburn. On the second fumble, the one AU ran back for a TD, the Arky guy’s knee was clearly on an AU player, NOT the ground. Replay showed that quite well. I guess whiners gonna’ whine. There were also a couple of borderline calls that went the other way.

Close calls are a part of football and they almost always equal out. Truly bad calls are rare indeed. I saw some close calls go both ways Saturday. I didn’t see any bad calls.

aarh

October 19th, 2010
12:35 am

Chris- UGA did havea terrible start to the season. They havve gotten a lot better though. I know they’ve beaten 2 teams that aren’t very good, but they beat them as bad or worse ahtn anyone else has. A. Murray has been good all yr. though…even when the team was losing. UGA has been sepecially affective since the return of AJ Green. UGA tried to lean on teh O LIne & running game early, bc it was supposed ot be teh strength. They’ve just now gotten to where they’re starting to open up the play book for Murray. They should only get better when you consider that they have a Fr. QB. I saw a stat the other day. Cam Newton has the most combined TDs of any SEC QB, & A. Murray is second. when you count both passing & running TDs. I’m not saying UGa will win, but I think it’t safe to say that UGA is a threat at least as far as passing the ball.

BAMA FAN

October 19th, 2010
10:15 am

Auburn Redhead
If the two calls go Arkansas’ way then Auburn has no chance to get the last few touchdowns. Arkansas might win the game by 22 if they get those 2 questionable calls. The interceptions thrown that help auburn expand the lead at the end are caused by the “catch up” attitude by arkansas. Arkansas would never be in that situation. Arkansas would have won the game handily.

Bona Fide

October 19th, 2010
3:52 pm

@MikeP

You’re right. The replay on the first questionable call did not provide conclusive evidence of a fumble. The problem that people (who, unlike yourself, are not Auburn fans) have with the call is that the ruling on the field was a fumble, not a TD. Nobody called a TD on the field.

Tide4u2c

October 19th, 2010
8:01 pm

I disagree take away two Auburn touchdowns by bad calls and Auburn still wins.

Dave

October 20th, 2010
10:24 am

GTbob,

You must eat paint chips on a daily basis. An undefeated SEC team won’t leapfrog Oregon or Oklahoma? It’s clear your jealousy and envy of the SEC has made you delusional and paralyzed any bit of better judgment you may have one time possessed, but you are just embarrassing yourself with each and every post you make.

NCGator

October 20th, 2010
1:54 pm

Cameron Newton should not even be considered for the Heisman Trophy! I can’t believe all the talk about him being considered. The kid was kicked off the football team for stealing. What kind of message does this send to other kids if we even consider him? Granted he is a gifted athlete but he is also a thief! If we consider him, we might as well give the Heisman back to Reggie Bush and say the trophy has no morals!

AU Engineer

October 20th, 2010
8:28 pm

Did Auburn beat Arky?
Who’s got next? Oh yea, the other tigers. One thing for sure Auburn will win more games this year than they did last year. They seemed to have gotten better. By the way, does LSU have a running game to go with that bad passing game? This game should be another one that goes to the third quarter, before Auburn’s defense decides to wake up and play ball. Should be a fun game, but LSU better protect their quarterbacks. Auburns hits hard, very, very hard. When they hit!:)