The SEC will need some help in the BCS

For the second straight week No. 1 has gotten beat. The first BCS Standings are now in the books. So What Did We Learn?

1. The SEC is going to need some help: You’d have to say that the SEC is in pretty good shape in the first BCS Standings with No. 4 Auburn (7-0), No. 6 LSU (7-0), and No. 8 (6-1) all in the mix and all scheduled to play each other between now and Nov. 26. But the SEC is going to need a little help to get a team to No. 2. I think either No. 1 Oklahoma or No. 2 Oregon is going to have to lose somewhere down the stretch (more on this tomorrow) in order for the SEC  team that emerges from that Auburn-LSU-Alabama round robin to get into one of the top two spots.

What’s the problem, SEC fans ask? The problem is that if one of those three teams wins the SEC championship, it will do it against an SEC East team that will likely have three or more losses. I think an undefeated Auburn or LSU gets there. A one-loss team will be more difficult if Oklahoma and Oregon do not lose.

2. Cameron Newton is on the top of my Heisman Trophy list: First it was Michigan’s Denard Robinson. Then it was Ohio State’s Terrelle Pryor. Both have lost. Right now there is no college football player in America who means more to his team than Auburn’s Cameron Newton. He again had over 300 yards of total offense (188 rushing, 140 passing) as the No. 4 Tigers beat Arkansas 65-43. It was an incredible thing to watch. If Newton leads his team to a victory on Saturday against No. 6 LSU, which has one of the best defenses in the country, he will be everybody’s leading candidate.

3. Florida is a real mess:  The Gators haven’t loss three straight games during the regular season since 1988. Give Mississippi State and Dan Mullen credit. They marched into Gainesville and knew that their defense was good enough to keep a hapless Florida offense in check. Mississippi State ran 58 offensive plays against Florida. Forty-nine of them were running plays. That means Mullen was playing for a low-scoring game because he knew Florida’s offense was not going to score very many points. It’s going to be a very interesting week off down there. Will they make any significant changes because the offense as it is now being run with John Brantley at quarterback is not working. Florida plays Georgia in Jacksonville on Oct. 30.

4. How bad is the SEC East? This bad: Georgia still has a shot. It’s a tall order, but if the Bulldogs win out at Kentucky, Florida and at Auburn they will be 5-3. South Carolina (2-2) has conference games left with Vanderbilt, Tennessee, Arkansas and Florida. Florida (2-3) has games left with Georgia, Vanderbilt and South Carolina. If Georgia wins out, South Carolina loses twice (Arkansas, Florida) and Florida loses only once (to Georgia) then the Bulldogs go. If Georgia beats Florida and loses only to Auburn to finish 4-4, the Bulldogs could still go. Why? If Georgia, Florida, and South Carolina all finish in a tie at 4-4, three of Georgia’s losses would have been in the SEC West (Arkansas, Miss. State, Auburn). Georgia would be 4-1 in the Eastern Division, which is the second tiebreaker. South Carolina would have two losses (Kentucky, Florida) in the division. Florida (which has lost to Alabama, LSU, and Miss. State) would also only have one loss in the division. But Georgia would win the head-to-head to break the tie. None of this matters if Georgia doesn’t beat Kentucky.

5. The ACC Coastal is starts to heat up this week: We said going into this season that the two most competitive divisions in college football would be the SEC West and the ACC Coasal. The SEC West has three teams in the BCS top eight and they are still scheduled to play one another. Virginia Tech (3-0), Georgia Tech (3-1), Miami (2-1), and North Carolina (2-1) are getting ready to play some appointment television. Here is the breakdown:

Virginia Tech: Nov. 4 (Thursday) vs. Georgia Tech; Nov. 13 at North Carolina, Nov. 20 at Miami

Georgia Tech: The Yellow Jackets play at huge game outside the division at Clemson this week followed by an open date. Then it’s Nov. 4 at Virginia Tech, Nov. 13 vs. Miami. the Jackets have already beaten North Carolina.

Miami: Saturday vs. North Carolina; Nov. 13 at Georgia Tech; Nov. 20 vs. Virginia Tech.

North Carolina: Saturday vs. Miami; Nov. 20 vs. Virginia Tech; the Tar Heels’ only ACC loss is to Georgia Tech.

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289 comments Add your comment

Hill

October 18th, 2010
1:13 pm

nothing on the player who was paralyzed. nice job phoney.

Tide Rising

October 18th, 2010
1:14 pm

3rdn8,

On the injury front we have our bye coming up after the UT game this week so that will help in healing a bunch of bumps and bruises- most notably getting Dareus ankle 100% healed.

Not sure about Upshaw but I know he and Chris Jordan were hurting with ankle sprains and it will also get them back to 100%. Dareus will be back to bcs form if his ankle can get back to normal.

We have been lucky the last 2 years to have been relatively injury free and I think the rash of injuries so far is just nature evening things out a little bit.

If we get fully healthy after the bye week I anticipate us getting to be scary again. The D played much better this week and just throttled Masoli. Ole Miss isn’t what they were the last 2 years but they were clicking well offensively coming into this Saturday’s game. Now that we’re out of the spotlight somewhat I think we can sneak back up on some people the rest of the way.

MURPHY

October 18th, 2010
1:14 pm

I had no issue with the call Spurrier made to thrown in the end zone for the win.If Garcia throws the ball higher Scruggs could have caught it or its a good chance no interception would have occured.

Alphare

October 18th, 2010
1:16 pm

Although I feel all the stars are lined up towards LSU with a ring, but I also feel Auburn or BAMA has a better chance on earth to bring home a trophy, of all the teams in SEC.

BAMA and Auburn should both beat LSU unless some heavenly intervention (they’ve already got a few). So if there is an SEC team playing for the top honor, it should be either BAMA or Auburn from the state of Alabama.

jack bull

October 18th, 2010
1:25 pm

the SEC needs some help?? Did you see the TWO blown calls by the replay booth in the Auburn game? I’d say that the conference is trying to help itself with calls like that!!! I even had a little something something on the game(and won BTW), but you can’t convince me that with those two fumble calls going against Arkansas, with it as evident as they were, that the conference isn’t doing everything it can to make sure at least one team ends up undefeated…just saying…

jack bull

October 18th, 2010
1:27 pm

i hate it for the teams that still have to play Auburn and LSU,,for they will NOT be getting any calls..

BAMA dude

October 18th, 2010
1:36 pm

No disrespect fellas, but anyone saying “it would be cool” for Auburn to win the MNC cannot be claimed as true Bama fan. They’d have to beat us to do it and losing to Auburn is slightly worse thn having toenails pulled off one by one.

3rdn8

October 18th, 2010
1:39 pm

BAMA dude

My point was/is….IF AU beats Bama, then I pull for them to win it all. I’ve checked the rules, and that does not ban me from being a “true” Bama fan.

3rdn8

October 18th, 2010
1:41 pm

jack bull

What was your point again on the SEC officiating conspiracy? My thought process was disrupted by all of the black helicopters overhead.

Joe Bob Thibodaux

October 18th, 2010
1:43 pm

Tony, my prediction for the LSU–AU game is that the LSU D will keep AU from scoring 65.

I doubt the odds makers in Lost Wages know how to handicap this one.

JBT

Five Star Recruiting Guru

October 18th, 2010
1:45 pm

According to ESPNU…and this is them saying it…OREGON and Boise St. have the EASIEST road to the BCS title game. Oregon has one game left against a ranked team. Boise St. has none since Nevada lost. Oregon does have Oregon St. on the road but if this Oregon team is as talented as the Far Coast Poster children say they are it should not be a problem.

Once again ..until someone steps up in the PAC it will be a one school conference every year, and do not expect USC to be in the picture for many many years with the scholarship reductions, and Stanford is too up and down, Cal gets hammered, Oregon St. loses 3 each year to teams they should beat( the South Carolina of the PAC) and Washington had one shot this year and has blew it over and over again, Arizona and Arizona St. are wanna be teams…

Lets put it this way. Oregon could play in the SEC West and lose 2 to 4 games, they could play in the East and lose 1 maybe two..

Just a good team playing in a weak very weak conference…

Oregon St the new Boise St.

Five Star Recruiting Guru

October 18th, 2010
1:48 pm

jack bull…

You are correct sir…that was two calls that should have been made on the field and every official just looked around at each other…that was a 14 point swing. No one signaled touchdown, the side judge threw down a bean bag and marked the ball down.

On the second one the umpire pointed down as the player should be marked down and the others did nothing but look at each other.

Those were two major changes in the game and both favored Auburn heavily.

One Nation Under educated

October 18th, 2010
1:48 pm

1. Wahhhhh-wahhhhhh. The big bad S-E-C is little “down” this year, so pleeeease please give us other schools a chance to play in the NC game. We’re not as good, but wahhh-wahhhh we want a chance anyway. Everybody knows the S-E-C champ IS the best team in the country, but we want respect toooooo, wahhh-wahhhh.

2. Here’s a tip – Big Mac 10 Flag league, Big 12 cow pasture 1-2-3 go-out-for-a-pass League, you want S-E-C respect – PLAY SOMEBODY. As for Boy-z St, they did play UGA & took a vote & almost forfeited at halftime.

3. Last, after watching the first half season, it is becoming embarrasingly obvious that we need to move the SEC Referee’s Office out of the state of Alabama.

BAMA dude

October 18th, 2010
1:48 pm

I don’t know 3rdn8. I don’t even live in Bama any more but have been programmed since birth to hate Alabama Poly and the puke orange. Florida and LSU I don’t like but can live with; those other two can be swallowed by a sinkhole for all I care.

North FLA Falcon

October 18th, 2010
1:55 pm

Why is everyone so surprised about Florida this year. Gator fans should have seen this coming LAST YEAR. They played NOBODY, they had NO RUNNING GAME except for Tebow, who sometimes ran 25 time/game. That means for 2 years, NO RUNNING BACK and NO FULLBACK. They played one good team, Alabama, who absolutely gashed them on the ground and beat them in all phases of the game. Last year they barely beat Arkansas and Miss St (oops!). Their offensive line was terrible … but as the pocket collapsed, Timmy could run it or make a throw to Hernandez or someone else downfield. So take this same team, remove Timmy, Percy, Spikes, and a few others and what do you have? A mediocre team in the SEC East. I’d love to see Kentucky go to Atlanta, why not!

SadDawg

October 18th, 2010
2:12 pm

Watch Aaron Murray. He had his second straight game with over 300 yards of total offense. If he stays healthy, Murray’s gonna set a bunch of records.

Dave

October 18th, 2010
2:21 pm

What’s wrong with these sentences (all from the above article):

You’d have to say that the SEC is in pretty good shape in the first BCS Standings with No. 4 Auburn (7-0), No. 6 LSU (7-0), and No. 8 (6-1) all in the mix and all scheduled to play each other between now and Nov. 26.

The ACC Coastal is starts to heat up this week:

The Yellow Jackets play at huge game outside the division at Clemson this week followed by an open date.

The Gators haven’t loss three straight games during the regular season since 1988.

Will they make any significant changes because the offense as it is now being run with John Brantley at quarterback is not working.

BCS=Barnharts College Shenanigans

October 18th, 2010
2:32 pm

http://pricezack.wordpress.com/2010/10/18/the-bcs-who-will-raise-the-crystal-ball/ this is an excellent article on college football and the bcs rankings. very interesting read

What It Is

October 18th, 2010
2:35 pm

Spurrier has to get credit for what he accomplished at Florida. That said, he is too flamboyant for South Carolina. He gets too caught up in making “statements”, rather than making sound decisions to win the game. He probably has the best team that has ever been fielded at SC, but he still doesn’t have enough talent there to overcome his ego.

Carslile Indian

October 18th, 2010
2:37 pm

Report from the Commonwealth is that UK has a good
football team.

Enjoy the week and go to Keeneland Race Track because
Saturday night in Lexington will be tough.

What It Is

October 18th, 2010
2:45 pm

@Dave

Yeah… Tony needs a proofreader. Considering that he probably writes this blog at midnight, after taking care of his many other jobs, I’m willing to ignore some typos.

5IML

October 18th, 2010
2:47 pm

I know a lot of BAMA fans (grew up in Alabama and graduated from UA in ‘95) and not one who would like Auburn to win the NC. I have never heard the BAMA fans I know ever pull for Aub to win a single game, even if it would benefit BAMA.

Phil

October 18th, 2010
2:52 pm

Tony,

Time to get Rogers Redding back on your show. The officials butchered that Auburn and Arkansas game. The fumble on the goal line, that was called a FUMBLE on the field, NOT a touchdown. Then replay clearly showed the ball never crossed the line. Yet they gave Auburn the touchdown.

And then later, the Arkansas runner was clearly down before the ball came out, yet the replay held up the fumble.

What are these replay clowns looking at?? This was one of the worst, if not THE WORST, officated games I’ve ever seen. Probably worse than the excessive celebration call on AJ Green.

Penn Wagers is a clown, as soon as I saw him as the referee, I had a feeling this game could be ugly officiating wise.

BAMA dude

October 18th, 2010
2:53 pm

Exactly 5IML. Same goes for those orange cretins in the hills.

What It Is

October 18th, 2010
2:53 pm

Asking a Bama fan to cheer for Auburn would be equivalent to asking a Tea Party activist to vote for a Democrat.

jc_dawgs

October 18th, 2010
2:55 pm

I hope that Boise St ends up being the only undefeated team or 1 of 2 undefeated teams this year.
Hopefully they will then get into the championship game and aggrevate the living $%^& out of all the fans that want a better matchup….particularly those that dont believe in a playoff!!!!!

That would be awesome. Punishment administered to those that deserve it.

BAMA dude

October 18th, 2010
2:57 pm

Yeah, Phil, I’ve never been one to spout conspiracy b.s. but that one call was interesting. I didn’t see anyone rule that a TD on the field. How did it get ruled a TD on the field after everyone met? The closest official threw his beanbag. It’s almost like they knew camera angles would be inconclusive and wanted to err on the side of touchdown. Very odd.

Urban Crier

October 18th, 2010
2:58 pm

Dan is a Weiner.

jc_dawgs

October 18th, 2010
3:00 pm

Your right SadDawg. Murray…at this early juncture….looks better than Stafford did. The sky is the limit for this kid.

SadDawg

October 18th, 2010
3:00 pm

What It Is,

I don’t know, there may be one Bama fan out of 3 million that would cheer for Auburn . . .

Phil

October 18th, 2010
3:02 pm

BAMA dude,

The call on the field was a fumble! The official threw his beanbag, and then they signaled Arkansas ball! Never once did anyone signal a touchdown. Yet mysteriously Penn Wagers said the call on the field was a touchdown before going to replay! WTF??

The fumble would have held up if the call on the field was a fumble! Based on the blind idiot replay official that is.

Arkansas got screwed big time.

MURPHY

October 18th, 2010
3:03 pm

What it is,

Disagree with your assesment of Spurrier.I have no issue with the call he made to throw to the endzone for the win. If Garcia throws the ball up higher it is either caught or incomplete and field goal is tried to tie the game. Im not so sure Carolina would have beat Kentucky in overtime. Spurrier will always go for the win. He isnt and has never been conservative.

Jaz

October 18th, 2010
3:05 pm

Tony,

You know there are shenanigans going on when we are a week past the halfway mark in the season, with SIX SEC teams in the top 25, and you are seriously writing about this??? I mean really? If an SEC team isn’t in the championship game then there is a serious problem.

5IML

October 18th, 2010
3:11 pm

Murphy,

If Spurrier has Garcia spike the ball instead of calling timeout, USC can complete a short pass over the middle then call time out to set up for a chipshot field goal. Spurrier screwed this one up.

Phil

October 18th, 2010
3:12 pm

How did Cam Newton get out of the State of Georgia? Did neither Georgia or Georgia Tech go after him??

Richt should be shot for letting this kid get out of state.

SadDawg

October 18th, 2010
3:14 pm

Right, Murphy, good call, just poor execution by Garcia. I guarantee you the Evil Genius told Garcia to make sure he didn’t underthrow the pass, but he did exactly that.

Spurrier has always had a look on his face when he has to call for a FG, like he’s about to have a root canal.

MURPHY

October 18th, 2010
3:16 pm

5IML,

Disagree-Throw the ball higher and you have a T.D or incomplete pass. Who’s to say a pass over the middle wouldnt have been intercepted? It was a good call if Garcia gets the ball up. Garcia didnt do that and they loss the game. Spurrier would do that 10 out of 10 times. Im not so sure he wanted overtime. I think Cats could have won in O.T

SadDawg

October 18th, 2010
3:17 pm

Phil, with a gun? You are kidding, right?

Can you imagine how many times the AJC would reference “Newton’s lawbreaking at Gainesville?”

MURPHY

October 18th, 2010
3:18 pm

5IML-What it is,

This is easy for me to say because Im not a Carolina fan. I guess I would have a different opinion if it was my team and coach. But if Spurrier was my coach I would back him for this call everytime.

SadDawg

October 18th, 2010
3:19 pm

51M, SC had no more timeouts. Spurrier went for the TD, and if it is incomplete, he still has a couple of seconds for the FG to tie.

SC throws it over the middle and doesn’t score, time runs out.

UGA Insider

October 18th, 2010
3:20 pm

Look for UGA to dominate a tired, beat up UK team. It will be tough for UK to maintain the momentum with a fresh UGA team coming in off of two straight blow-outs. I look for a 35-40 point victory as insiders are telling me that the defense has finally grasped the new system. Also, Grantham has insisted that Kwaeme Geathers play often and learn as he goes. Geathers is improving every week and will be a good player one day. Dent and Houston are beasts and coaches say they are unblockable at this point in the season. I am serious when I say UGA can run the table this season.

MURPHY

October 18th, 2010
3:23 pm

Carolina on the road,just given up what an 18 point lead? #1 running back injured. They just played the week before probably the most physical contest these players have ever endured and you want them to play overtime? Not a good call if you can win it in regulation.

BAMA dude

October 18th, 2010
3:23 pm

I’m guessing Spurrier didn’t even consider the fact that the ball could be intercepted. In his mind it was either a miracle type TD or an incomplete pass and FG try. Frankly, the odds of interception on that type of route are very small. The WR should have done whatever it took to keep the INT from happening regardless of the poor throw.

MURPHY

October 18th, 2010
3:25 pm

Probably would have been to our advantage for Carolina/Kentucky to play 2-3 overtimes. They could have been even more beat up for our game this week.

BAMA dude

October 18th, 2010
3:26 pm

I look for a 35-40 point victory as insiders are telling me that the defense has finally grasped the new system.

UGA by five TD’s? Bartender, I’ll have what he’s having. And the insiders bit is just laughable. Light switch went on for ‘em did it chief?

MURPHY

October 18th, 2010
3:30 pm

Bama dude,

Ill have one of those drinks also!

rhett

October 18th, 2010
3:32 pm

Let’s get this straight. The BAMA bye week excuse is an optical illusion.
Opponent before Penn State- San Jose State
Opponent before Arkansas- Duke
Opponent before LSU- BYE
Opponent before Auburn- Georgia State

Add that according to Saban himself teams coming off a bye week have not historically fared any better. Sure there was a tough three week stretch but lets dispense with the scheduling excuses.

SadDawg

October 18th, 2010
3:35 pm

Yeah right, Insider.

I know a Techie when I read one . . .

Jaz

October 18th, 2010
3:36 pm

Bama Dude, tell us how great and better Julio is again compared to AJ. LOL!!!

Soy un perdedor

October 18th, 2010
3:40 pm

Really… It’s not hard to “run the table” when the season is more than halfway over already.