The SEC will need some help in the BCS

For the second straight week No. 1 has gotten beat. The first BCS Standings are now in the books. So What Did We Learn?

1. The SEC is going to need some help: You’d have to say that the SEC is in pretty good shape in the first BCS Standings with No. 4 Auburn (7-0), No. 6 LSU (7-0), and No. 8 (6-1) all in the mix and all scheduled to play each other between now and Nov. 26. But the SEC is going to need a little help to get a team to No. 2. I think either No. 1 Oklahoma or No. 2 Oregon is going to have to lose somewhere down the stretch (more on this tomorrow) in order for the SEC  team that emerges from that Auburn-LSU-Alabama round robin to get into one of the top two spots.

What’s the problem, SEC fans ask? The problem is that if one of those three teams wins the SEC championship, it will do it against an SEC East team that will likely have three or more losses. I think an undefeated Auburn or LSU gets there. A one-loss team will be more difficult if Oklahoma and Oregon do not lose.

2. Cameron Newton is on the top of my Heisman Trophy list: First it was Michigan’s Denard Robinson. Then it was Ohio State’s Terrelle Pryor. Both have lost. Right now there is no college football player in America who means more to his team than Auburn’s Cameron Newton. He again had over 300 yards of total offense (188 rushing, 140 passing) as the No. 4 Tigers beat Arkansas 65-43. It was an incredible thing to watch. If Newton leads his team to a victory on Saturday against No. 6 LSU, which has one of the best defenses in the country, he will be everybody’s leading candidate.

3. Florida is a real mess:  The Gators haven’t loss three straight games during the regular season since 1988. Give Mississippi State and Dan Mullen credit. They marched into Gainesville and knew that their defense was good enough to keep a hapless Florida offense in check. Mississippi State ran 58 offensive plays against Florida. Forty-nine of them were running plays. That means Mullen was playing for a low-scoring game because he knew Florida’s offense was not going to score very many points. It’s going to be a very interesting week off down there. Will they make any significant changes because the offense as it is now being run with John Brantley at quarterback is not working. Florida plays Georgia in Jacksonville on Oct. 30.

4. How bad is the SEC East? This bad: Georgia still has a shot. It’s a tall order, but if the Bulldogs win out at Kentucky, Florida and at Auburn they will be 5-3. South Carolina (2-2) has conference games left with Vanderbilt, Tennessee, Arkansas and Florida. Florida (2-3) has games left with Georgia, Vanderbilt and South Carolina. If Georgia wins out, South Carolina loses twice (Arkansas, Florida) and Florida loses only once (to Georgia) then the Bulldogs go. If Georgia beats Florida and loses only to Auburn to finish 4-4, the Bulldogs could still go. Why? If Georgia, Florida, and South Carolina all finish in a tie at 4-4, three of Georgia’s losses would have been in the SEC West (Arkansas, Miss. State, Auburn). Georgia would be 4-1 in the Eastern Division, which is the second tiebreaker. South Carolina would have two losses (Kentucky, Florida) in the division. Florida (which has lost to Alabama, LSU, and Miss. State) would also only have one loss in the division. But Georgia would win the head-to-head to break the tie. None of this matters if Georgia doesn’t beat Kentucky.

5. The ACC Coastal is starts to heat up this week: We said going into this season that the two most competitive divisions in college football would be the SEC West and the ACC Coasal. The SEC West has three teams in the BCS top eight and they are still scheduled to play one another. Virginia Tech (3-0), Georgia Tech (3-1), Miami (2-1), and North Carolina (2-1) are getting ready to play some appointment television. Here is the breakdown:

Virginia Tech: Nov. 4 (Thursday) vs. Georgia Tech; Nov. 13 at North Carolina, Nov. 20 at Miami

Georgia Tech: The Yellow Jackets play at huge game outside the division at Clemson this week followed by an open date. Then it’s Nov. 4 at Virginia Tech, Nov. 13 vs. Miami. the Jackets have already beaten North Carolina.

Miami: Saturday vs. North Carolina; Nov. 13 at Georgia Tech; Nov. 20 vs. Virginia Tech.

North Carolina: Saturday vs. Miami; Nov. 20 vs. Virginia Tech; the Tar Heels’ only ACC loss is to Georgia Tech.

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289 comments Add your comment

3rdn8

October 18th, 2010
9:57 am

IT’S ALL ALL ABOUT THE MONEY!!!

That’s good point about the QB. Bama had similar problems last year as well, but the OL (and the RBs) were good enough to run the ball anyway. Hopefully McElroy can shake off this midseason slump and play well down the stretch.

WarEagle Beagle

October 18th, 2010
9:59 am

As an Auburn fan I am thrilled with the win over the Hogs this weekend, but if I’m objective and honest, if you take away the two TD’s the refs gave us, this is a completely different game. When the “phantom td” was called, and I say phantom because the ball was out before crossing the goal line and every ref on the field called it a fumble until they met and changed the call to a td, Ark had the lead and that would have been a huge momentum changer. They could have easily marched it down the field and taken a big lead. Next, again Ark had just taken the lead, we pick up a fumble and run it back for a TD, great, except for one thing, it was not a fumble. The ark running back was clearly on the ground. And again, if Ark had kept the ball and marched down the filed they would have had a decent lead with not alot of time left. Instead we get another TD and take the lead. Tyler Wilson then comes in and throws 2 interceptions playing catch up.
I will take a win any day of the week, but any honest fan would have to admit that if you take away those two critical calls, this game would have been completely different. Were there bad calls on both teams ? You bet, but most of them were judgment calls and did not effect the out come like the 2 gift wrapped TD’s.
With all that said, we are still undefeated and have a shot at going the distance, but I just wish we could have won the game without those two calls because overall it makes our team look bad.

JASon

October 18th, 2010
10:00 am

Hey, mr. college football, you picked Alabama #1 this year. How is that working out for you? They lost 8 seniors on defense, and have a young quarterback…you couldn’t see this coming?

You are what I call a sec prude: someone whose world revolves around the sec, and whose vision is too narrow to give a knowledgeable perspective on college football. Your vision is clouded by the sec.

3rdn8

October 18th, 2010
10:02 am

WarEagle Beagle

Apparently you saw the same game I did. However, judgement calls by refs tend to even out over the course of a season.

Just take the “W”, and the ranking. It’s well deserved.

What It Is

October 18th, 2010
10:03 am

@3rdn8

You’re right. Legion Field is a sad story. I don’t think that Crampton Bowl offers a viable venue either. It’s still a big game, but it’s not the “Iron Bowl” anymore.

Old School

October 18th, 2010
10:03 am

JASon

McElroy is a senior QB

3rdn8

October 18th, 2010
10:04 am

JASon

correction on the “young” QB. He’s 5th year senior. He’s currently playing like a “young” QB, but suspect that is being addressed in practice.

murfdawg

October 18th, 2010
10:05 am

I think Bama or AU will make it to the BCSCG even if they have one loss. However, if a four loss team from the sec east wins the seccg, then we will be shut out.

p.s. I know AU is really good this year, but how do you pick against Les Miles? He may not be the best coach in the sec, but when he’s not, he’s lucky.

Atlanta Gator

October 18th, 2010
10:07 am

The Gators started slow in both 2008 and 2009, but the offense found its comfort zone and only got better in the latter two-thirds of the season. That does not appear to be happening this year. What’s the difference? IMHO, the lack of senior leadership. The Gators offense is simply not this bad, and the defense is pretty damn good, on paper, but college football is a game of emotion. And right now, the Gators are playing very uninspired football.

Where’s Gene Ellenson when we need him?

5IML

October 18th, 2010
10:07 am

JASon,

1. Seven games into the season, BAMA has lost one game. Technically, we are still in the hunt for both championships.
2. BAMA’s quarterback is a fifth-year senior.

Which is worst: Tony’s SEC-clouded vision or your ignorance-clouded vision?

Even if you don’t actually watch football, check ESPN.com or CNNSI.com before jumping to conclusions.

Gen Neyland

October 18th, 2010
10:08 am

If a team is built on a foundation of confidence, who’s the stonger going into this Saturday, UK or UGA..? A point to ponder, UK is 3-1 at home, UGA is 0-3 on the road… Alot on the line for both teams Saturday night and looking at the shape of the East this year with UGA’s and UK’s respective records, who would have thunk it…

What It Is

October 18th, 2010
10:08 am

@WarEagle Beagle

It certainly didn’t hurt to put Mallet on the bench early. I was impressed with Arky’s backup QB, although he did blow the Razorback’s chances for a comeback in the end.

3rdn8

October 18th, 2010
10:10 am

murfdawg

Disagree.

(a) I think the voters are a little tired of the SEC.
(b) With the SEC East in freefall, the SECCG is becoming a “so what?”.
(c) Bama really looks mediocre, when compared to the 2009 team. Unfortunately that comparison will haunt them all year.

AU can still make the show, but think they’ll have to be 13-0 to do it.

Realist

October 18th, 2010
10:11 am

Here we go with the Heisman talk on C. Newton. Please people he might be good but we should go with someone who isn’t a thug. Remember he (alleged) stole a computer, threw it out the window when the cops arrived. The heisman doesn’t need this. I say he has some moral issues.

leslie22h

October 18th, 2010
10:11 am

DP, the point of my post wasn’t as much to “whine” about Florida having a bye before the Georgia game this year. It’s that Florida has had a disproportionate number of byes before the Georgia game over the last 18 years. I cannot help but believe that the byes have been a major factor in the wins that Florida has racked up on Georgia during that time span.

As for Bama’s scheduling this year, I think it’s BS that they should have 6 SEC opponents with a bye on the previous week as well.

McDawg

October 18th, 2010
10:13 am

who has Oklahoma played this year

UGA will knock the snot out of few teams before the year is over

3rdn8

October 18th, 2010
10:15 am

leslie22h

Again….the UGA AD can change that situation. Certainly over that time span you would think a HC at UGA would have pointed it out to someone.

BAMA dude

October 18th, 2010
10:16 am

JASon

October 18th, 2010
10:00 am
Hey, mr. college football, you picked Alabama #1 this year. How is that working out for you? They lost 8 seniors on defense, and have a young quarterback…you couldn’t see this coming?

Couldn’t see what coming? An upset on the road in the SEC? Last I checked we’ve only lost one game.

BAMA FAN

October 18th, 2010
10:17 am

Watch for Bama. They play Cam Newton in Tuscaloosa. I say Cam Newton because he is Auburns team. Shut him down and you win the game handily. I realize that is easier said than done, but Bama has the athletes to do it. Im not making this my prediction but it can happen. I pick Bama to beat LSU in Death Valley. A one loss SEC team has won the national championship 3 of the last 4 years. LSU (2 losses) and Florida twice. It can be done by any of these 3 teams. The Bama team is great and so is LSU. I think either defense can defeat Cam Newton with the right game plan. I just need an SEC team to get a shot at the title game. Oregon still has a chance of losing. UCLA is not half bad, USC is USC, and Oregon State can play some ball. Oklahoma still has to play Oklahoma State and the Big 12 championship game where they will probably play Nebraska who is very good. There is a chance that noone goes undefeated besides Boise and TCU who are undeserving of the National Title. Give them a SEC or Big 10 schedule and they just simply couldn’t win every game like they do now. Both are good teams but couldn’t run the table.
SEC east is very down this year I’m very sad to say. I love having the hype of the SEC Championship game. That hype wont be there this year.

IT'S ALL ALL ABOUT THE MONEY!!!

October 18th, 2010
10:18 am

@W.E.BEAGLE,It is refreshing to see on this blog an individual whom is HONEST AND FAIR in the assessment of the game WE ALL LOVE!!! SIR, I SALUTE YOU THIS DAY!!!

Auburn Man

October 18th, 2010
10:19 am

At least Au won by more than 14 points to offset those TWO bad calls that gave us 2 undeserved touch downs. I hate getting bad calls that can change a game because in my 47 years it seems to ALWAYS come full circle when you least afford it.

3rdn8

October 18th, 2010
10:21 am

SOS

I have trouble with the media critiquing the SOS of Boise State, and TCU. Look at Oklahoma’s resume’ to date. How on earth are they No. 1? The BCS must be trading in futures. OU has only played one top-teired team to date.

WashingtonDCduck

October 18th, 2010
10:22 am

Good Morning my friends in the south….

My first comment is this, THERE WERE SOME VERY GOOD GAMES IN THE SEC THIS WEEKEND. I have zero horses in the SEC that I root for, I’m a Duck, but I will say this: I love college football, and don’t care who’s playing I just want some entertaining games. Watching an inspired Mississippi State team go into Gainseville was really special. 1965! Are you serious?! Ok, then while watching the Ohio State / Wisconsin game you’ve got Commonwealth Stadium going crazy with their huge win over South Carolina and the Old Ball Coach.

And then the shoot out that broke the scoreboard there in Auburn. Kudos to Cam Newton and the rest of the Tiger squad, those guys have really exceeding expectations and play with their hair on fire. It’s a fun brand of football to watch, and they have a serious shot at playing for all the marbles in Glendale AZ. I did feel bad for the Hogs, as Mallet got knocked out early on. Their backup QB played so well in the 3rd qt., it’s too bad he folded.

LOTS AND LOTS OF FOOTBALL TO BE PLAYED…. A lot of shuffling will still occur at the top of the polls and BCS rankings obviously.

BAMA dude

October 18th, 2010
10:23 am

3rdn8, I don’t know about voters tiring of the SEC but I do think they’d like a new storyline. Cam could potentially fill that, but the Michigan State coach with heart problems would be even better. If the big game turns out to be UO vs. OU it will be the weakest BCSCG in recent memory save the two-loss bowl won by LSU. Might be fitting though since this seems top be a weak season across the board. Oklahoma is the weakest undefeated number 2 I can recall. Close win over USU? Air Force? Cincy? Ugh…

Old School

October 18th, 2010
10:24 am

BAMA dude

How about the “cheeseheads”? Thought you said no way they would beat the Buckeyes?

JUST SAYING

October 18th, 2010
10:25 am

I know you people think the sun rises and sets in the SEC but it doesn’t..the ones who vote and rank the polls don’t all live in Athens or Tuscaloosa or Baton Rouge or Auburn..the world doesn’t come to an end if an SEC team doesn’t play for a national title

3rdn8

October 18th, 2010
10:26 am

BAMA dude

I thought OU is No. 1 in the BCS this week. Did I misread it?

3rdn8

October 18th, 2010
10:27 am

WashingtonDCduck

Do you think Oregon could be substituted for the SEC East rep in the SECCG? Now that would be interesting.

BAMA dude

October 18th, 2010
10:29 am

Old School, I was shocked but happy. Ohio State really didn’t look like much in that game.

slaughdog

October 18th, 2010
10:32 am

bama fan #2—only half of comments are true—sorry, no criminal record for CAM. Stay off the kool aid.

War CAM Eagle

BAMA dude

October 18th, 2010
10:33 am

3rdn8, you’re right. I had it backwards. That’s even worse. The best team in America is a field goal better than Air Force, two points better than Cincy, and a touchdown better than Utah St. Wow.

Stupid is as Stupid does

October 18th, 2010
10:33 am

MMA is stupid:
FL will never have the ‘worst fan base’ as long as you are a fan of any other team. You’re a putz.

3rdn8

October 18th, 2010
10:33 am

Back to Oklahoma.

I just don’t get it. Oregon has a much better resume’ to date. In fact, I don’t see it being close. I’d take the Ducks’ win (53-31) over Stanford any day than OU’s eight point beatdown of Texas.

BAMA dude

October 18th, 2010
10:36 am

The whole “War Cam Eagle” bit cracks me up- I’ve heard it a few times now. For me, it serves as an acknowledgment that one man is half the team. It’s even better that the one man had to come off of the Florida scrap heap via junior college.

WarEagle Beagle

October 18th, 2010
10:37 am

Auburn Man,

True, we did but who’s to say that Ark would not have won by more than 14 if they had got the calls. We could not stop their offense so if they would have gone up we would have had trouble catching up.
If they would have had a big lead in the 4th, like they very well could have, they are running the ball and time out on the clock and not throwing two late pics that led to us scoring a couple late td’s and putting the game away. I just think we are very fortunate to have some big calls go our way and still be undefeated.
Now we can move on and focus on LSU. I’m just glad their offense is nowhere near as potent as the Hogs.

bamaguy

October 18th, 2010
10:37 am

If Oregon and Oklahoma make the BCS game, I’d like to see Bama and Auburn play Boise and TCU. Then we can lay all this speculation to rest.

BAMA FAN

October 18th, 2010
10:38 am

BAMA dude
let them say “War CAM Eagle” it really doesn’t matter where he came from. He’s there now. and he’s doing a pretty good job there I’d have to say.

5IML

October 18th, 2010
10:39 am

Have the S. Car posters gone missing again?

3rdn8

October 18th, 2010
10:43 am

51ML

re: USC

When a donkey flys, you don’t ask how far?

slaughdog

October 18th, 2010
10:45 am

realist- newton did NOT steal a laptop, he bought a “stolen” laptop @ age 18, you a$$hole. Research before u comment, farve-like (short man).

War CAM Eagle!!

GTBob

October 18th, 2010
10:47 am

The SEC is pretty much out of the BCS hunt unless the world starts falling on all the other teams. Even if Auburn or LSU go undefeated, they wont leapfrog Oregon or Oklahoma so they better start hoping one of those teams lose.

BAMA dude

October 18th, 2010
10:50 am

BAMA FAN, don’t get me wrong. I love the fact that they are building the whole team around one man. Look at the Gators this year- Aubie will be in the same boat when Cam leaves. Chizik will then get to see what Tubs really went through.

Gen Neyland

October 18th, 2010
10:52 am

Atlanta Gator : Shall we share a mug of grog and talk about our respective good ol’ days..? If CDD can pull UT of from where it was heading prior to his coming onboard, I’ll nickname him Mr Anne Sullivan. IMO, CDD gets 4-5 years and that span includes winning the SEC East. That may sound like alot of time to turn things around but the OBC has been at USCe for what, 5 or 6 years now..?

BAMA dude

October 18th, 2010
10:52 am

Yeah 5IML, that one that was crowing about how “South Carolina is riding a Cinderella season all the way to Glendale” seems to be gone. Mysterious.

Herschel's Revenge

October 18th, 2010
10:55 am

Tony:

Why does it matter so much that a Heisman candidate’s team lost? The Heisman has become an award for QBs, RBs, and WRs on top five teams. That’s not a true accounting of the best player in college football, and anyone with a brain should agree with that. Being good on a top-five team does not mean you’re the best player in D-1. I’m not saying that a great player on a losing team (a la Paul Hornung at ND) should necessarily have a shot at it, but I do believe the “Heisman Hype” that begins in the spring and summer and only focuses on offensive players on highly-ranked teams in the preseason really diminishes the award. I never watch the ceremony anymore and could care less who wins. If Suh had won last year, I’d have more respect for the voters. A defensive player CAN be the best player in football, and HE probably was the best player in college football last year. But Alabama was #1 and had never had a Heisman winner (something Auburn always had over Tide fans).

The Heisman has really lost it’s mojo in the last thirty years. Heisman winners these days are average or bad NFL players, when OJ, Dorsett, Plunkett, etc. were All-Pro players in the Show. Why won’t voters stop buying the hype and actually look at the player who changes games just being on the field (David Pollack, for example), no matter what his team’s ranking is?

BAMA FAN

October 18th, 2010
10:55 am

I understand what your saying Bama dude. This is right now though and the tigers are pretty legit this year. and will be next year too.

3rdn8

October 18th, 2010
10:55 am

GTBob

I agree. In fact, I made that same point earlier. I can see AU jumping TCU and Boise though (they will play two ranked teams by the end of November), and it’s more than likely that either OU or Oregon will stumble before season’s end. So from that perspective, AU controls their own destiny.

3rdn8

October 18th, 2010
10:58 am

Notice to Bama and other SEC fans.

AU will be legit as long as Newton wears a blue and orange jersey. That guy may be better than Tebow, and I never thought I’d say that for another ten years.

BAMA dude

October 18th, 2010
10:59 am

Aubie is looking strong offensively, though I still say Cam runs way too much- it only takes one shot in this league. Defensively, as average as Bama has looked, Aubie is awful.

pbj

October 18th, 2010
11:02 am

If you want to really throw a monkey wrench into the SEC chances for a NC again imagine this; in this crazy year in the SEC east- imagine if the East winner were somehow to beat the West winner. Now you would have an SEC champ with 3 or likely 4 losses. Wow. The SEC east just really is so weak this year.