The SEC will need some help in the BCS

For the second straight week No. 1 has gotten beat. The first BCS Standings are now in the books. So What Did We Learn?

1. The SEC is going to need some help: You’d have to say that the SEC is in pretty good shape in the first BCS Standings with No. 4 Auburn (7-0), No. 6 LSU (7-0), and No. 8 (6-1) all in the mix and all scheduled to play each other between now and Nov. 26. But the SEC is going to need a little help to get a team to No. 2. I think either No. 1 Oklahoma or No. 2 Oregon is going to have to lose somewhere down the stretch (more on this tomorrow) in order for the SEC  team that emerges from that Auburn-LSU-Alabama round robin to get into one of the top two spots.

What’s the problem, SEC fans ask? The problem is that if one of those three teams wins the SEC championship, it will do it against an SEC East team that will likely have three or more losses. I think an undefeated Auburn or LSU gets there. A one-loss team will be more difficult if Oklahoma and Oregon do not lose.

2. Cameron Newton is on the top of my Heisman Trophy list: First it was Michigan’s Denard Robinson. Then it was Ohio State’s Terrelle Pryor. Both have lost. Right now there is no college football player in America who means more to his team than Auburn’s Cameron Newton. He again had over 300 yards of total offense (188 rushing, 140 passing) as the No. 4 Tigers beat Arkansas 65-43. It was an incredible thing to watch. If Newton leads his team to a victory on Saturday against No. 6 LSU, which has one of the best defenses in the country, he will be everybody’s leading candidate.

3. Florida is a real mess:  The Gators haven’t loss three straight games during the regular season since 1988. Give Mississippi State and Dan Mullen credit. They marched into Gainesville and knew that their defense was good enough to keep a hapless Florida offense in check. Mississippi State ran 58 offensive plays against Florida. Forty-nine of them were running plays. That means Mullen was playing for a low-scoring game because he knew Florida’s offense was not going to score very many points. It’s going to be a very interesting week off down there. Will they make any significant changes because the offense as it is now being run with John Brantley at quarterback is not working. Florida plays Georgia in Jacksonville on Oct. 30.

4. How bad is the SEC East? This bad: Georgia still has a shot. It’s a tall order, but if the Bulldogs win out at Kentucky, Florida and at Auburn they will be 5-3. South Carolina (2-2) has conference games left with Vanderbilt, Tennessee, Arkansas and Florida. Florida (2-3) has games left with Georgia, Vanderbilt and South Carolina. If Georgia wins out, South Carolina loses twice (Arkansas, Florida) and Florida loses only once (to Georgia) then the Bulldogs go. If Georgia beats Florida and loses only to Auburn to finish 4-4, the Bulldogs could still go. Why? If Georgia, Florida, and South Carolina all finish in a tie at 4-4, three of Georgia’s losses would have been in the SEC West (Arkansas, Miss. State, Auburn). Georgia would be 4-1 in the Eastern Division, which is the second tiebreaker. South Carolina would have two losses (Kentucky, Florida) in the division. Florida (which has lost to Alabama, LSU, and Miss. State) would also only have one loss in the division. But Georgia would win the head-to-head to break the tie. None of this matters if Georgia doesn’t beat Kentucky.

5. The ACC Coastal is starts to heat up this week: We said going into this season that the two most competitive divisions in college football would be the SEC West and the ACC Coasal. The SEC West has three teams in the BCS top eight and they are still scheduled to play one another. Virginia Tech (3-0), Georgia Tech (3-1), Miami (2-1), and North Carolina (2-1) are getting ready to play some appointment television. Here is the breakdown:

Virginia Tech: Nov. 4 (Thursday) vs. Georgia Tech; Nov. 13 at North Carolina, Nov. 20 at Miami

Georgia Tech: The Yellow Jackets play at huge game outside the division at Clemson this week followed by an open date. Then it’s Nov. 4 at Virginia Tech, Nov. 13 vs. Miami. the Jackets have already beaten North Carolina.

Miami: Saturday vs. North Carolina; Nov. 13 at Georgia Tech; Nov. 20 vs. Virginia Tech.

North Carolina: Saturday vs. Miami; Nov. 20 vs. Virginia Tech; the Tar Heels’ only ACC loss is to Georgia Tech.

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289 comments Add your comment

3rdn8

October 18th, 2010
9:02 am

leslie22h

Bama fans feel your pain. Our team faces six (count ‘em… SIX) SEC teams with a bye week. Early on, I wasn’t sure how significant that wouild be. Now it is starting to look ugly.

But….you would think that the UGA ADs could have done something in twelve years to alleviate that problem. It seems like the bye week before GaTech could have been more useful a bit earlier in the season.

MMA is stupid

October 18th, 2010
9:03 am

from the east,

Notice I dropped Beast from your name. The arrogance of your program during Tebow and coming into this year was disgusting. Thousands and thousands of people feel the same way I do that your program, your fans, and that total a$$ of a coach are getting what they deserve. BURN!

Retirement looms for the OBC

October 18th, 2010
9:03 am

Coach Superior lost the Auburn game by pulling his starting QB and putting in a Freshman. He lost the Kentucky game by throwing a Hail Mary TD pass instead of running the ball to the center of the field for an easy FG to put the game into OT.

This was his year at South Carolina, and he has blown it. He was one of the very best, in his prime. He is obviously no longer in his prime.

3rdn8

October 18th, 2010
9:03 am

Another Ed

Agree with you. I don’t care for the Heisman race, but if they were awarding it today, just ship it to AU.

jumbeauxtiger

October 18th, 2010
9:04 am

Just 10 days ago Bama and Ohio St were undefeated so anything can happen in the BCS. There’s alot of football left to play.

Cam Newton is the real deal and the Bayou Bengals will have to bring him down when he’s first hit. Easier said than done.

Will a 4-4 SEC record make it to the SECCG for the first time? It may happen this year.

Good call on the Ohio St game Tony. I didn’t think Wisconsin would have success running the ball.

Chris

October 18th, 2010
9:05 am

Auburn’s secondary is the weak part of the D. We did shut down Lattimore who lit up the great Bama D. Auburn doesn’t face a great passing team for the rest of the season. Auburn knew that Ark would light up our secondary so we just had to out score them.

3rdn8

October 18th, 2010
9:10 am

Watching the UF teams dominate Bama during the mid-nineties, I remember commenting to my brother that Spurrier was defining how football is played in the SEC. I thought the game had passed by Gene Stallings.

I think the game has now passed by Spurrier.

joe

October 18th, 2010
9:10 am

Bammars don’t want to hear this, but every time Wade Phillips craps the bed on Sunday, the deeper Jerry Jones desire to hire Saban increases. At 1-4, the Cowboys are playing much worse than they are. Penalties, turnovers and poor special teams signal a lack of discipline and Jerry will throw all kinds of cash at Sir Nick at the end of this season. So when you hear Nick say “I aint gonna be the Dallas coach,” remember he said the exact thing when in Miami before bolting to Alabama.

MURPHY

October 18th, 2010
9:10 am

I dont have an issue with Spurrier’s call to throw to the end zone. If Garcia throws the ball higher,Scruggs could have caught it.

3rdn8

October 18th, 2010
9:12 am

Chris

Not so sure many Bama fans are referring to our defense as “great” this year. But they are getting respectable.

Zebra

October 18th, 2010
9:13 am

Lately they have been the Florida Crickets.

Kerry

October 18th, 2010
9:14 am

Huh?A one-loss team will be more difficult if Oklahoma and Oregon do not lose.

If they don’t lose, there is a 0% chance of an sec team passing them with a loss. Are you really this stupid tony? Auburn and lsu will both lose one game at least.
You are by far the biggest sec homer idiot. Hey mark which team has beaten tenn by the most points this year? That would be Oregon. Dumbass.

3rdn8

October 18th, 2010
9:15 am

joe

I’m not sure how long Saban will coach at Tuscaloosa, and I’m sure there are already feelers out about the Dallas job. I don’t see Saban taking that job because Jerry Jones is such a hands-on owner. Saban doesn’t play well with others, and I think he and Jones would hit it off for about five minutes.

Nate

October 18th, 2010
9:16 am

I love the idiocy from ga fans on here talking trash about fla with 3 losses when you have 4 and will finish with 6-7 losses. Morons.

BAMA dude

October 18th, 2010
9:16 am

joe,

You are an idiot. Not only did Saban absolutely hate the NFL, he wasn’t successful there. What makes you think Jones would be itching to hire him? Bill Cowher might make sense, Saban doesn’t for either side. I’m sure you’re just another jealous fan of an inferior program. Dream on pal.

JB

October 18th, 2010
9:20 am

I know my Dawgs are a mess this year, but I think most folks but Gator fans saw this coming with them. Tebow WAS the offense.You don’t just turn on a SEC offense year one when there hasn’t been anyone prepping for it…..They have great athletes, but not a very good team.
The will probably come out foaming against my Dawgs, but we are playing a lot better that the first 3 -4 games showed…. Gators will probably open up as a 4-5 point favorite…..

NOT AGAIN

October 18th, 2010
9:21 am

BCS embarrassment: Undefeated Auburn team denied National Championship. Oklahoma went instead and was defeated soundly.. National Champions forfeit title due to recruiting scandal… Heisman winner who played in and won the National Championship returned Heisman… If Auburn goes undefeated and is denied this opportunity the South will rise again. lol

JB

October 18th, 2010
9:22 am

Spurrier is as senile as Holtz……

DP

October 18th, 2010
9:23 am

leslie22h, SEC teams face conference opponents coming off bye weeks 9 times this season. Alabama has 6 of them, their last 6 conference games in a row. Georgia has one such game and you’re whining about it.

Another Ed

October 18th, 2010
9:23 am

‘Bama’s D is not great. They are better than some, yet certainly not as good as others (LSU). The question I ask is this: is ‘Bama deserving of their ranking at this point/ Who have they beaten that is real good? Penn State got drilled by Illinois (Illinois?). Florida has turned out to have a strong D but is struggling on offense (Imagine if Cam had stayed there). Arkansas just gave up a million points to Auburn. In fairness they nearly scored half a hundred, and a lot of that with a backup QB. (I think Newton just scored again.) The SEC WEST will all shake out here in a few weeks. Who knows what will happen in the EAST?! That is the crazy side of the conference.

IT'S ALL ALL ABOUT THE MONEY!!!

October 18th, 2010
9:24 am

@nc4000,THIS ISN’T THE 1ST TIME THAT HAPPENED DOWN THERE!!! A BETTER QUESTION WOULD BE…….JUST HOW FAT WAS THAT MONEY ROLL THAT WAS LEFT IN THAT REF’S LOCKER!!!! YOU KNOW….HOME COOKIN’ = KEEPIN’ IT DOWN HOME CUZ!!!! IT’S PART OF BEING FAMILY DOWN @ THE BARN!!!!

3rdn8

October 18th, 2010
9:24 am

About Cam Newton, and the laptop.

This story is getting a bit old. There are many players in the SEC, and other conferences that have far worse actions on their personal books. I’ve done one or two things in my life, of which I’m not too proud.

I don’t mind fans being critical of coaches, etc…but public derision of a twenty year old is pretty bush league. If that’s the best you can come up with against your rival, you tend to lack class.

BAMA dude

October 18th, 2010
9:25 am

NOT AGAIN,

Funny how no one ever mentions that Auburn’s lone recognized national titlein 1957 was won under probation due to players getting paid. What goes around comes around?

5IML

October 18th, 2010
9:26 am

Joe,

Bill Cower or John Gruden would be much better choices for Jerry. In spite of the NFL’s propensity towards recycling, it doesn’t make much sense to go after a college coach who was unsuccessful in the NFL and left after two seasons.

3rdn8

October 18th, 2010
9:26 am

Another Ed

Can’t argue with any of your points. Bama’s SOS looked pretty strong at the beginning of the year, but this has been a strange year. GUess you just have to play ‘em as they come up, and hope for the best.

Another Ed

October 18th, 2010
9:26 am

Hey 3rdn8:

Classy post. If I remember correctly, you are a ‘Bama fan. That is good stuff and I agree with you. We have all probably done some things we would like to take back. He seems to have learned from the whole thing. Thanks for this comment.

BAMA dude

October 18th, 2010
9:29 am

Another Ed, you’re right. Bama hasn’t proven a whole lot this year besides blowing out teams they should blow out. We did have a tough win at Arky in what was billed as the biggest game on campus in years (just like the SC game). If they run the table from here on out then they’ve proved themselves worthy of the hype regardless of final ranking. If not then we’ll see where they are. In any case they are ranked as high as they are because of the players on the roster, especially offense.

MURPHY

October 18th, 2010
9:29 am

3rdn8,

Come on you are taking this Lap Top thing way to serious. Its all in fun.Other fans will never let A.J forget about the jersey incident. Its all in fun-looks like Cam is proving everyone wrong with his play.

3rdn8

October 18th, 2010
9:30 am

Another Ed

I am a Bama fan, and you’re welcome.

Should be an interesting day on November27.

JB

October 18th, 2010
9:30 am

LOL….LOL…………..go to the Florida message boards……………Compare to Georgia blogs from 4 weeks ago…..Just scratch out Richt’s name and insert Meyer’s………..LOL……… The whole blog is about who the NEXT GUY WILL BE…..LOL…………Dan Mullen is the number one name by the way……………………hilarious………..

Bama Fan #2

October 18th, 2010
9:30 am

Cam Newton is one hell of a football player and is a criminal to!!! RTR

What It Is

October 18th, 2010
9:30 am

Alabama has been bitten by the injury bug this season. It started with Mark Ingram pre-season and it is currently affecting both their offensive and defensive lines. Other key players, such as WR Julio Jones and LB’s Chris Jordan and Jerrell Harris have also been limited by injuries. This has been particularly difficult, since Bama replaced 9 starters on defense this year.

And so, Alabama finds itself in the unique position of pulling for the Auburn Tigers to carry the banner for the SEC until the two teams meet in November. If Bama can quietly continue to win and simultaneously get their players healthy between now and November, then ending the season with a victory over a highly ranked Auburn team and finishing with a re-match against the team that handed them their only regular season loss would put them in a good position to have a shot at the BCSCG.

That won’t be an easy thing to accomplish, but championships are never easy. It would help the case of the SEC if either Oklahoma or Oregon lose a game, and that is not as unlikely as many want to believe. TCU and BSU are interesting sideshows, but everyone knows that they will only play in the BCSCG if everyone else in the Top Ten has a major meltdown between now and the end of the season. That’s also possible, but it would make for the least watched BCSCG in history, should it happen.

From 11-3 to 12-2

October 18th, 2010
9:34 am

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Georgia Tech should win their next seven games
and finish the season at 12-2.

Another Ed

October 18th, 2010
9:34 am

Regarding ‘Bama’s season: it simply shows the fine line between championships and a very good season. One key injury, one key play, one bad decision, one down game-no championship. You can still have a very good season.
‘Bama is clearly better than probably 85% of the teams in the country. Are they better than Auburn and LSU? We will see.

JB

October 18th, 2010
9:34 am

I’m stunned…………On a flight back from Phoenix last night I bought and read the current SI mag about the Sport Agents confessions………..If that story is true, all NFL caliber college players are getting a monthly check……worth the read……

JB

October 18th, 2010
9:37 am

Tech will give up 300+ points in the next 7 games IMO……

Bama Fan #2

October 18th, 2010
9:38 am

JB did you notice that 2 UT players when getting paid by the sports agent in the article!!

What It Is

October 18th, 2010
9:38 am

@JB

One thing’s for certain. The author of that book is getting a big check.

3rdn8

October 18th, 2010
9:39 am

What it is

Actually, Bama and AU fans are in the unique position of hoping the other goes undefeated until the Iron Bowl.

That’s not a problem for me. I always pull for AU until it gets near to Thanksgiving.

I think the people here miss out on the fact that we’re the only state with two teams in the Top 10. I’m quite proud of that.

What It Is

October 18th, 2010
9:41 am

I’m just curious. What do the Boise State and TCU fans think of Michigan State?

Why don’t they get the “Cinderella” love from the media? Is it because they play in a legitimate football conference?

john b

October 18th, 2010
9:43 am

GA fans, the most despised in all of college football… thinly they were relevant, when in reality they haven’t been for nearly 3 decades.. so delusional.

3rdn8

October 18th, 2010
9:45 am

I think Michigan State gets very little love from the media (but that’s changing) because they ain’t flashy. They win on defense, and it doesn’t make for good press.

carmatter

October 18th, 2010
9:46 am

#blue – Oklahoma is Not in the south
– Georgia did bring Boise State in for a whippin’ not too long ago.

What It Is

October 18th, 2010
9:47 am

@3rdn8

I have been around long enough to remember when the Iron Bowl was the biggest game of the year in the SEC. Looks like we’re getting back to that point. I wish that the game could return to a neutral site — it makes the rivalry that much more unique. Florida and Georgia would be crazy to end their tradition of playing at a neutral site. Florida’s recent dominance in that game has nothing to do with location. Florida has simply been fielding superior teams. That, like anything else, can change over time.

IT'S ALL ALL ABOUT THE MONEY!!!

October 18th, 2010
9:50 am

3 AND 8 @ 8:46,You left out one important piece of the problem,GMAC!! To say he’ not playing his at his best right now is an understatement!! I know he has a 21-1 record an all but due to his lack of ability to read what the defense is showing,checking down into the wrong play and his inability to stretch the field with his passing and spot the open wideout’s on any given down is allowing the opponent to put 8,9,10 in the box thus hurting the running game!!! The opponent’s are daring bama to throw and it’s working in thier favor!!!

haters are skaters

October 18th, 2010
9:52 am

would it still be valid for gator fans to have handles like, “beast in the east?”

Kenny Powers

October 18th, 2010
9:53 am

Oklahoma will not lose?
Mizzou (7-0) and Oklahoma State (7-0) are still on the schedule. So is TA&M, Baylor, and TTech. The Big 12 is a competitive league this year. OU will lose a game.

3rdn8

October 18th, 2010
9:54 am

What it is

I liked the Iron Bowl at a neutral site as well. Unfortunately Legion Field is the pits, and I don’t see the game ever returning to that venue.

Pat Dye once said that the Iron Bowl (at Legion Field) was the toughest coaching job on the planet. Momentum swung on every play.

Dink

October 18th, 2010
9:54 am

Tony:

Good pick Friday with the Badgers over the Buckeyes. I was really surprised how Wisconsin just gashed the Buckeye D. Ohio State looked very overrated.

And what the heck was Spurrier thinking at the end of the KY game? Go Dawgs!

Ted Brogan

October 18th, 2010
9:56 am

I can’t remember but who do Oregon, Michigan St., Boise St. and TCU play in their conference championship games this year?