Florida’s Meyer rolling the dice with Chris Rainey

Nobody asked me but:

1. Urban Meyer is rolling the dice with Chris Rainey: The Florida wide receiver had his felony stalking charge knocked down to a misdemeanor and will not be prosecuted for this text message threat to a Gainesville woman. I know that Meyer likes this kid and has tried to work with him, but if Rainey is allowed back on the team and something goes wrong, the University is going to be in a very vulnerable position from a liability standpoint. Meyer knows the kid. I don’t.  Local authorities have assessed the situation and don’t believe there is a threat. The woman involved is not pressing charges and issued a public statement saying that she does not believe there is a threat. That’s all well and good.

All I know is that since the Virginia lacrosse case (where a male member of the lacrosse team killed a female member of a team in the same sport by beating her head against a wall), the wisest policy is zero tolerance when it comes to threats towards women.

2.  I was wrong about Mark Ingram and the Heisman Trophy: When Ingram missed the first two games of Alabama’s season with a knee injury, I assumed that he was out of the Heisman Trophy race and would not repeat as the winner. I was wrong. I think Ingram is very much in the Heisman race after his 157-yard day against Arkansas. A lot of national media saw his incredible 54-yard touchdown run early in the game and how he was the most dominant player on the field in the fourth quarter when Alabama stormed back to win 24-20. Saturday he gets another national stage when No. 1 Alabama hosts No. 7 Florida.

3. Playoff PAC is out of line: Playoff PAC is a political action committee that is working towards eliminating the BCS and replacing it with some kind of playoff system. This is America and that is what political action committees are for: advocating and advancing a point of view through the political process. I have no problem with that. But the lawyers who work  (free of charge) for Playoff PAC have been sifting through the tax returns of the four BCS bowls looking for dirt. They think they’ve found some in the compensation packages for some of the bowl executive directors. Playoff PAC has filed a 27-page complaint to the IRS.

These guys want a playoff  and someday that might come to pass. It’s a good argument but they haven’t won it yet. So in order achieve your objective you’re going to sick the IRS on people who deem to be opponents? I’m for a four-team playoff but guys but this is over the line. It’s just a football game.

4.The ACC may be bad, but the Big East is worse: We’ve been beating up the ACC and its 1-9 record against non-conference BCS opponents in the first three weeks of the season. But the Big East is worse at 1-10 against the BCS and 6-13 against all Division I-A opponents. Pittsburgh, which was supposed to be one of the two best teams in that league just got mauled at home by Miami. West Virginia, the other top team, lost at LSU. The lowest ranked team to ever play in a BCS game was 8-3 Pittsburgh, which played and lost to Utah in the 2004 Fiesta Bowl. That team was ranked 21st in the final BCS Standings. The Big East champion of 2010 could be worse.

5. LSU may have the best defense in the SEC: I have to admit that I had my doubts about the LSU defense when it got torched for over 400 yards passing in its opener with North Carolina. But since then John Chavis has whipped his troops into shape. Chavis has moved from  working the game from the sidelines to up in the press box. I don’t know if that is a factor but here are the results going into Saturday’s home game with Tennessee: LSU is first in the SEC in total defense (254.0 ypg), first in rushing defense (74.8 ypg), and second in scoring defense (12.0 ypg). Alabama leads in scoring defense at 9.8 points per game. Chavis told Scott Rabalais of the Baton Rouge Morning Advocate that he has been emphasizing speed over size. “For some reason I can coach the ones who run faster,” Chavis said. That speed will come in handy next week when LSU goes to Florida.

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343 comments Add your comment

NoGaGator

September 29th, 2010
9:51 am

Seriously, Tony, try to find something new to write about. You already weighed in on the Rainey situation after it first happened. I’m for him being off the team (which is currently the case) but I don’t have all the relevant info on it – NEITHER DO YOU.

Earlier this week was your brilliantly insightful column that UGA is “just not very good”. DUH And you’ve been picking them to win every week. You’re supposedly close to the program. If you haven’t seen this coming by now, you’re blind from your red and black glasses.

You are really turning into an irrelevant, bitter hack. You’ve always been a homer.

BAMA dude

September 29th, 2010
9:54 am

Ga Gator and Murphy-

Agree on both fronts. Funny enough, I see the two teams potentially changing roles next year. McElroy, Ingram, and Jones will all be gone next year. McCarron is probably better than G Mac and Richardson, Maze, and Hanks will all be back, but we will be the ones feeling our way. Brantley will be the more seasoned QB, which I really think is the main thing that separates the two teams this year.

MURPHY

September 29th, 2010
9:57 am

GaGator,

I live down here in gatorland.A little strange this week with the gator program.Usually alot of fan talk with a game like this.Gators fans kinda have that sneaky smeark on their faces-HMMMMMMM! Wonder if they are bringing something special to Bama land.Talked to a coaching friend on mine last night that was a grad assitant for Urban and he says they will play Bama real tough.Good luck to yall-I will be keeping an eye on this one for sure.

bamafan

September 29th, 2010
9:59 am

Geez – what is it with you Auburn fans? One simple statement that says “I think Mark Ingram might have a shot at a second Heisman trophy after all” and every Auburn fan comes out of the woodwork to tell us that the award belongs to Cam Newton. Okay already…..what is your point? And why is it the Auburn fans who turn the blog into snotty comments about irrelevant things. Auburn fans – act like you have been a good team before. Ratting out other teams doesn’t make Auburn better.

Corch Myer

September 29th, 2010
9:59 am

GaGator

September 29th, 2010
9:39 am

Hey Tony,

How about an article on the Ben Jones’ cheap shot and how severely Mark Richt has punished Ben Jones———————————–BTW, I’m not holding my breath.

Enjoy watching a thug in action.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=reVnna38sPI

It is CLEAR from this replay that Ben Jones is a dirty player. I’ve watched it several times and it is CLEAR as day he’s dirty.

Just when I thought I've seen it all

September 29th, 2010
10:00 am

Tony I thought you were above such cowardly speculative journalism where you insinuate a situation that hasn’t even happened yet because you know it will get a lot of blog hits and responses.

How is Urban Meyer “rolling the dice” when he hasn’t even made one peep to indicate that Chris Rainey will be back on the team if ever?

Pretty weak, lame and pathetic…I thought you were different than the TMZ type reporting that has taken over these days but I guess not.

BAMA dude

September 29th, 2010
10:00 am

Murphy what would the fans know? They aren’t woofing because they THINK they’re good but aren’t sure of themselves.

I should have mentioned in my post above that the other difference between these teams is game day coaching. Meyer is a great recruiter and offensive innovator but he is not the game day tactician or motivator that Saban is.

Will

September 29th, 2010
10:00 am

GaGator,

I agree with you on the Ben Jones cheap shot. It was almost as bad as the Brandon Spikes debacle of last season. Maybe CMR should give Jones the same punishment that Spikes received from Meyer. Now shut up!

MURPHY

September 29th, 2010
10:01 am

bamafan,

No way Cam Newton is a better player than Mark Ingram. Richardson is better than Cam. This is comming from a UGA fan with no ties to either Bama of AU!

Pffft.

September 29th, 2010
10:01 am

SimpleDawg…Sicking the IRS on someone is un-American? The IRS is a division of the US Government…which is about as American as you can get (normally).

The rest of us

September 29th, 2010
10:02 am

MURPHY

September 29th, 2010
9:57 am

GaGator,

I live down here in gatorland.A little strange this week with the gator program.Usually alot of fan talk with a game like this.Gators fans kinda have that sneaky smeark on their faces-HMMMMMMM! Wonder if they are bringing something special to Bama land.Talked to a coaching friend on mine last night that was a grad assitant for Urban and he says they will play Bama real tough.Good luck to yall-I will be keeping an eye on this one for sure.

Gator fans always have that look on their faces, it’s called arrogance. They will get steam rolled by the tide but not before a futile jump pass.

Pulpwood Smith

September 29th, 2010
10:03 am

Chris Rainey is ok man. He is a better fit at UGA.

We are thUGA

Corch Myer

September 29th, 2010
10:03 am

Half game suspension for Ben Jones.

Can You Dig It

September 29th, 2010
10:03 am

It’s about time the press starts looking into Urban Meyers program at Florida. His players don’t just commit traffic violations they repeatidly commit major felonies …most of which are covered up by the press. His team is full of thugs…..always has been…Florida fans know it but choose to look the other way…I guess winning does that. Meyer needs to come clean. He’s needs to start cleaning up the mess he’s created within his program…but he won’t…he likes to coach thugs…criminals. The exception being Tebow. With the press constantly focusing on him while he played at Florida the thugs were able to get away with almost everything they wanted to except murder…..how sad….I predict that Bama kills Florida this weekend…the game won’t be close…and Meyer will point fingers at everybody but himself after the loss…that’s his style…always has been….Can You Dig It!

MURPHY

September 29th, 2010
10:05 am

Bama dude,

Im sure the fans dont have much insight on how they will play,but believe me I have seen this smart smerk before and it didnt turn out well for my team.Just having fun,with the Bama crowd. I take Saban as my coach on game day,esp in 3rd and 4td qtr

Head Ball Coach

September 29th, 2010
10:09 am

MURPHY

September 29th, 2010
10:05 am

Bama dude,

Im sure the fans dont have much insight on how they will play,but believe me I have seen this smart smerk before and it didnt turn out well for my team.Just having fun,with the Bama crowd. I take Saban as my coach on game day,esp in 3rd and 4td qtr

I have that permanent “smirk” it doesn’t all ways turn out well for me either.

BAMA dude

September 29th, 2010
10:09 am

This is going to be a tough one, no doubt. We’re going to need Saban at his best. Something tells me he’s up to the challenge.

Pffft.

September 29th, 2010
10:10 am

Corch and GaGator…I have watched this play several times as well.

I think this happens in every single football game. A lineman is clearly beaten by speed and dives to try and protect his QB. (Is it just pro ball where the player has to be engaged with another player before it is considered a chop block?)

Even if it is against the rules it is nowhere near as dirty as Brandon Spikes trying to gouge out an eye…or laying on top of Knowshon for an extra 15 or 20 seconds after the play was over screaming in his face (under the watchful eye of Penn Wagers no doubt).

Let’s talk about offensive pass interference for a minute too. Every UF player is coached to pull on DB’s when they make their cut…and being one of 2 of the darlings of the SEC the refs never ever call it.

Take the gifts you have been given and enjoy them–it is tacky to rub them in the rest of the world’s face. Tools.

BAMA dude

September 29th, 2010
10:11 am

Yeah, Spurrier’s smirk is famous at this point. of course, so are his tantrums. He used to just throw his visor and clipboard, based on the UGA game he’s apparently graduated to functioning audio equipment. I laughed like crazy when he drug his headset on the ground all the way onto the field.

GaGator

September 29th, 2010
10:12 am

Hey Tony,

Just want to let you see what a good journalist can produce.

Finebaum: Alabama and Florida is college football’s most important rivalry

Florida and Alabama have become the gold standard in college football. While it doesn’t have the tradition and pageantry of Ohio-State-Michigan, OU-Texas, Georgia-Florida or even Auburn-Alabama, it is the most meaningful rivalry in college football today. Perhaps it’s because these teams don’t play each unless it’s really important. This battle isn’t for something stupid like the “Iron Skillet” or the “Old Oaken Bucket.” The winner of this bare-knuckles brawl usually gets to play for the national title. Pretty simple, huh?

You have the two best coaches in college football. You have the immediate past history of the two most recent BCS winners. You have a game which now marks the third straight year the two have met and one of the combatants is No. 1 in the nation. In fact, this game is a tad below the normal fare since Florida is in the low rent district of the ESPN poll at No. 7. The 2008 and 2009 games matched No. 1 vs. No.2 on a neutral site.

But the odds are high that this is only round one for 2010. And you have an interesting turn of events. In 2008 and 2009, the Gators were the king of college football with Alabama nipping at their heels. Now, Florida is trying to wrest back the mantle from the Tide.

bamafan

September 29th, 2010
10:12 am

One day it is WAR DAMN EAGLE; the next day it is NOT PAT SULLEY; today it is UGA PRESEASON 2008 #1 – these guys make the blogs unusable and unenjoyable. They quibble and finger point. I am willing to grant Auburn respect for what they accomplish on the field; however, doing the same for their fans gets harder every week. As for 2004, the Heisman trophy was not revoked. Also, I guess Auburn never knew about 1966 when the AP and UPI gave Bama the shaft and denied us A THIRD CONSECUTIVE AP TITLE. Last two years, I had a boss who claimed to be a big Auburn fan……..let me tell you this: 36-0 in 2008 and the BCS title in 2009 were quite enjoyable and I never said one word bad about Auburn.

BAMA dude

September 29th, 2010
10:13 am

Ga Gator, not sure Finebaum is all that…

GaGator

September 29th, 2010
10:16 am

Will

1-Ealey said nothing happen

2-He was suspended for one game

3-Jones will not miss anytime—–the pot calling the kettle black!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Pffft.

September 29th, 2010
10:18 am

Ga Gator-

Finebaum : Alabama :: Barnhart : UGA

Both stretch the impartial requirement of Journalism and poor mouth a local rival to get extra page views.

According to you though…an article is good journalism only if you agree with it. Wow. It must be great to have that kind of power to lord over the press.

Ted

September 29th, 2010
10:19 am

Hey UGA preseason (or another auburn fan with a chip on his shoulder):

You really think any school besides Au and Ole Miss want a player that was kicked off another conference team for stealing? That shows the character that auburn is made of. What a freakin joke you are…

GaGator

September 29th, 2010
10:21 am

Pffft.

You are an idiot———Jones cut the man 15-20 yards down field trailing the play and the QB was 10-15 yards behind them on the ground—blind and dumb.

Pffft.

September 29th, 2010
10:21 am

Ga Gator. The point is what supension MEYER handed down, which was a half game. Spikes asked for it to be extended to a full game–NOT Corch Meyer of Nazareth.

Spikes is a model Gator…eye gouging, sex tapes–Go Gator!

SAL

September 29th, 2010
10:21 am

Hey Chizzed On….if Auburn gets by Arkansas (something they’ve had trouble doing lately) and LSU, you will more than likely be undefeated when you come into Tuscaloosa. At that time we will send you home with your tails between your legs. I hope you do run the table because there will be nothing sweeter than ruining your undefeated season and a shot at the national title. With the exception of the running back position, we both have excellent athletes but I will take Nick Saban coaching my team vs. Gene Chizik coaching my team any day. ROLL TIDE!!!!!

MURPHY

September 29th, 2010
10:22 am

Ted,

Watch Demetre Baker(kid kicked of team by Richt on Sunday) end up at Auburn.He was recruited by Auburn before picking UGA.

Head Ball Coach

September 29th, 2010
10:23 am

Lady GaGa-tor. I made the UF program what it is, never forget that. I sure don’t.

GaGator

September 29th, 2010
10:25 am

Watch the tape it CLEARLY shows the infraction, wait. I’m confusing the Spikes tape with the Jones footage. Never mind, I’m a mouth breathing idiot.

Pffft.

September 29th, 2010
10:26 am

Head Ball Coach–”Why don’t you send us your resume-we just got rid of old Zook.”

“Resume!? Resume!? Just run down there and look in that trophy case, that’s my resume.”

GaGator

September 29th, 2010
10:27 am

Pffft.

September 29th, 2010
10:18 am
Ga Gator-

Finebaum : Alabama :: Barnhart : UGA

According to you though…an article is good journalism only if you agree with it.

A little anger there my friend since Georgia has become irrelevant in the SEC

Pffft.

September 29th, 2010
10:35 am

Yeah I am angry that my team isn’t doing well…but that is besides the point.

I am saying you can’t call Tony B a homer then call Feinbaum a Pulitzer Prize winner. Both are equally guilty.

That is all.

gcs

September 29th, 2010
10:37 am

Don’t worry about Chris Rainey. He’ll be playing at Auburn soon enough.

.

tsmonk

September 29th, 2010
10:39 am

Okay, you can disagree with Tony, call him an UGA homer (there are far worse homers all over the landscape btw) but c’mon – Paul Finebaum is not a better writer. I’m a Bama fan and even I see that one.

TommyP

September 29th, 2010
10:39 am

Barnhart is so full of himself and out of touch with reality that it’s become absurd.

From his picture to his moniker to his views…

I hope (if there’s wrongdoing) that the Bowls get absolutely slammed.

WashingtonDCduck

September 29th, 2010
10:40 am

1. Urban Meyer is rolling the dice with Chris Rainey: For the life of me I don’t get why something is not done to Urban Myer and this program. Gator Faithful, please don’t get me wrong, I have a great amount respect for the amount of success Myer has had in Gainesville, I mean two national titles is pretty damn impressive. But at what cost? What point does the NCAA come in and lay the hammer down. USC (who I hate just as much as a lot of others) has one guy (nobody else was caught taking money + benefits) be selfish and USC gets some pretty harsh penalties. Meanwhile Florida has guys left and right get arrested for some pretty heinous acts. Something is out of whack.

2. I was wrong about Mark Ingram and the Heisman Trophy: Ingram is a stud, he took over the game Saturday against the Hogs. If he keeps this up he’ll be in NY in December. I felt like he was showboating a bit in Fayetteville, all game long pointing to the Arkansas fans to be quiet. Just play the game.

3. Playoff PAC is out of line: Tony, I live in D.C. and know people who have crossed paths with PAC. These guys are notorious for looking for that payday and I agree with you on them exploiting a first-rate political process.

4.The ACC may be bad, but the Big East is worse: What has happened to these two leagues!?! When Miami joined ranks with Florida State, and you already had Virginia Tech I remember still living back west in Pac-10 country, thinking “These guys are going to be unstoppable. You’ll see the ACC in the national title game every year.” Well not so fast, because their football product has dropped off the face of the earth. The Big East I’m not too surprised at, what have they done recently to really make a dent on the national stage? The ACC’s irrelevancy is really shocking though.

5. LSU may have the best defense in the SEC: I’m really looking forward to see how this LSU team develops throughout the year. Can their offense get anything going moving into the middle of the schedule, with some difficult games looming? Their offensive production at QB has been pretty dismal, and I’m just now sure how long they can lean on that defense. From an Oregon Duck perseptctive, I’ll be pulling for Rocky Top this Saturday as they battle LSU.

GO DUCKS!

Bama Chris

September 29th, 2010
10:47 am

Effing Auburn fans, you beat Clemson and South Carolina, now all of a sudden you are talking Heisman trophies and beating Bama. I hope all you Barn fans come to Bryant Denny to see what a real stadium looks like and see the ass whipping you most certainly have coming to you. Your jealousy is noted. Keep your idiotic blog statements to yourself.

Jerry West

September 29th, 2010
10:47 am

As an LSU fan, I’m hoping that one of the best defenses and THE best special teams unit can make up for this horrible passing game. Probably won’t though.

Free Jarrett Lee!

MR

September 29th, 2010
10:48 am

Tony, you’re absolutely wrong. BCS football isn’t “just a football game.” Everyone with any grasp of modern college football knows the BCS is a cartel that conducts itself like a corporate enterprise who’s only concerned about money. Given this, the Playoff PAC is going down a legitimate path in attacking the BCS in this way, by attacking their wallet.

Quit calling for a playoff while simultaneously criticizing THE ONLY ONES who are actually doing something tangible to bring one about. Like the rest of the media and fans, Tony only talks about a playoff. Playoff PAC is actually attempting to do something about it, unlike you. Quit crapping on them.

Old Dawg

September 29th, 2010
10:49 am

Tony …: I can assure you the UGA coaches are taking care of the Ben Jones issue. That’s an on field issue, not a felony.

As for the Rainey issue, Tony Barnhart, you’re right on target.

Topp Dogg

September 29th, 2010
10:56 am

When Rainey does kill her it will be reduced to self defense so Urban cant lose its about winning at any cost that counts.

MURPHY

September 29th, 2010
10:59 am

Topp Dogg,

This is crazy-Why are the parents not pressing charges.If this was my daughter i would have his a..!!!!

Lets see Blind Homer Tony Barnhart

September 29th, 2010
11:05 am

Spikes gets half a game suspension for trying to gouge Washout Ealey’s eyes last year even though Ealey publicly said he thought it was funny. Mommies little baby sitter Mark Richt does nothing about the spineless Ben Jones chopping a guy and potentially ending his career after he was tired of having his ASS handed to him. Address the issues HOMER!!

Lets see Blind Homer Tony Barnhart

September 29th, 2010
11:06 am

Murphy the mother went to court with the girl and said that they were annoyed and not threatened. Go on line and read the transcript. Rainey was stupid and that is it.

Good grief some of you are sad...

September 29th, 2010
11:07 am

WashingtonDuck-
What rule is there in the NCAA that says a program should get in trouble when players are arrested? If there is one I guess UGA would get the death penalty since they have a LARGER amount of players getting arrested than UF under Meyer does. Also the players at UF who have committed more aggregious offenses have been kicked off the team. Marcus Thoms, Jamar Hornsby, Avery Atkins, Ronnie Wilson, CAM NEWTON, Jaques Rickerson, Gary Brown…just to name a few. What more can Urban Meyer do and why in the world would the NCAA get involved?

Can You Dig It-
Your so full of crap. You saying “stuff gets swept under the rug” is your way of saying “IM so jealous of UF and Meyer that I am going to make up something with no validity whatsoever so it seems like I have a point even though its complete and utter BS. Yes that’s how sad and pathetic the jealousy has made me”

Get a life dude..

Just wondering?

September 29th, 2010
11:08 am

How many games did the UGA player get suspended for who tried to poke out Tebow’s eye well before Spikes ever touched Ealey last year?

WEAGLE!!

September 29th, 2010
11:09 am

Thanks for the warning, Palladumb. If you think we’re afraid of a bunch of rednecks, you’re Palladumber!

Lets see Blind Homer Tony Barnhart

September 29th, 2010
11:11 am

wondering or the cheap shot on tebow when the play was 15 yards down field. Pious Saint Mark can still be seen smiling on youtube while his team was dancing with the stars. Then said later that he never meant for the whole team to dance. Lying hypocrit!!