Is this going to be 2004 all over again?

 

Nobody asked me but:

1. I know it’s early, but it’s starting to look like 2004 again: Remember 2004? Well Auburn sure does. That was the year that USC and Oklahoma started 1-2 in the polls and never lost. Auburn started at No. 17, got to be No. 2 for a week, but in the end it was USC and Oklahoma playing for the championship with Auburn playing the odd man out.

Have you looked at the gap between Alabama, Ohio State, and everybody else in the coaches poll? Alabama got 55 first-place votes after its impressive win over Penn State. Ohio State handled Miami easily and got the other four first-place votes. There are 132 points between No. 2 Ohio State and No. 3 Boise State. That is a very wide gap.

 Here is the point: If Alabama and Ohio State win out, I don’t think anybody, including Boise, cracks the top two.

Again, I know it’s early.  It’s just something to think about.

2. It’s time for LSU to bring back Jarrett Lee: I like Jordan Jefferson. He’s a nice kid with good athletic ability. But the fact is that LSU is not going to go where it needs to go with him at quarterback. Jefferson completed only eight of 20 passes for 96 yards and no touchdowns in last Saturday’s win over Vanderbilt. Even Les Miles, who has been very patient with Jefferson, knows he has to get more from his quarterback if the Tigers are going to think about competing  for the SEC West title. Miles said the coaches would evaluate the quarterback position this week. “Frankly we’re going to expect more out of the position, period,” he said.  By Tuesday he had sort of backed away from that statement. Jefferson is his guy–for now.

Lee had a nightmare of a season in 2008 when he had six interceptions returned for touchdowns and 16 interceptions total. But the fact is the kid has a good arm and just needs help rebuilding his confidence. That is what coaches are for. Lee needs to see the field Saturday against Mississippi State.

 

3. Florida just needs to get the ball to No. 2: Florida may have found its offensive identity post-Tim Tebow in last week’s win over South Florida. Jeff Demps averaged 12.6 yards every time he touched the ball against the Bulls and had 255 all-purpose yards. Florida had 251 yards rushing and 172 passing. Rather than ask John Brantley to throw it all over the ballpark, the Gators probably just need to get the ball to Demps a whole lot.

You have to get the ball to Demps because it looks like Chris Rainey is not going to be around. Rainey was arrested on felony stalking charges early Tuesday morning. According to arrest records, Rainey texted the message “Time to Die” to a female who he has been dating, according to reports in the Gainesville Sun and the Orlando Sentinel. That arrest report is a matter of public record.

I’m going to see how this plays out and so I’m only going to say this:

IF the arrest record is completely accurate and Rainey did send that message to the female, regardless of their relationship, he should be done as a college football player. Period. If I’m the father of that girl, and some harm comes to my daughter because this is not handled properly, I will soon own a big chunk of the University of Florida. I have zero tolerance for men threatening women. And if some yahoo calls to harrass and intimidate the woman because he’s worried about his precious football team, then that person is going to be tracked down and prosecuted as well.

And I sure as hell don’t want to hear from Rainey’s lawyer, Huntley Johnson, Jr.,  who told the Orlando Sentinel : “I think he’s a hell of a nice young man and I assure you that he wold never hurt this woman.”

I hope you’ll understand, Mr. Johnson, if we’re not quite willing to take your word on that.

 

4. The 102 points scored in Wake Forest’s 54-48 win over Duke last Saturday in Winston-Salem was the SECOND highest total ever in an ACC game. The highest scoring ACC game ever came in 1981 when Clemson beat Wake Forest 82-24 in Death Valley. I was there.

That was Clemson’s national championship season. Al Groh, now the defensive coordinator at Georgia Tech, was the head coach at Wake Forest. What I remember was Clemson’s mascot, dressed in a Tiger suit, who would do pushups to match the home team’s points every time they scored. His name was Ricky Capps and as the score kept growing he was getting pretty gassed. When Clemson got to 76 points the Demon Deacon mascot of Wake Forest gave Capps a break and did the 76 for him. Capps did 435 pushups that day.

5. Kudos to Duke for keeping Bama game in Durham: After playing Duke at home in 2006, Alabama is returning the game this Saturday at Wallace Wade Stadium in Durham, which seats 33,941. Duke had the option of moving the game to Charlotte and a 73,000 seat NFL Stadium. It would have been a nice payday because the place would have been full with Alabama fans. But Duke head coach David Cutliffe, a 1976 graduate of Alabama who was a graduate assistant to Bear Bryant, realized how important this game was to the building of his program. “Some things,” said Cutcliffe, “are more important than money.”

An extra 3,900 seats will be brought in for Saturday’s game. Alabama fans will get another nostalgia trip as Duke’s Stadium is named after the man who won three national championships as the Crimson Tide’s head coach from 1923-30. Wade left Alabama for Duke in 1931.

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250 comments Add your comment

H.Obama

September 15th, 2010
10:00 am

I like the way some of the dumasses make fun of Sarah. That helps keep some of the pressure off me and my dumass way of converting this America into a muslim country. My buddy in NY is building a “worship center” near ground zero and when it is finished it will be named the obama center. Isn’t that great? Also dumasses don”t forget to vote for me so we can continue to destroy this country. See ya, time for another vacaation

Gotta love bama fans

September 15th, 2010
10:01 am

Gtr17

It must not have been a big deal because no one pressed charges against Newton.

jarvis

September 15th, 2010
10:01 am

So Tony’s theory is that if #1 and #2 don’t lose all year, they’ll be #1 and #2 at years’ end?

That’s really going out on a limb.

jarvis

September 15th, 2010
10:02 am

Is there irony in misspelling “dumb” about 10 times?

Paul in RDU

September 15th, 2010
10:04 am

1. If ALA and OSU go unbeated they will deserve to play each other in the BCS Championship game. Everyone knows Bama’s schedule and OSU, after waxing 1 top 20 team already, has 4 top 20 teams left – @WI, PSU, @Iowa, Michigan. They should win the home games but WI and Iowa are tough.
2. Les Miles needs to make his mind up.
3. UF may have found their guy – let’s see what happens in the next couple of games. Rainey – what an idiot.
4. The high score in the WF-Duke game came with each team replacing long time starting QBs – amazing!
5. Duke doesn’t need the money from a game in Bank of America Stadium – in the immortal words of a famous Alabama grad “they’ve got more money than Davey Crockett”

3rdn8

September 15th, 2010
10:05 am

re: Saban’s first three years.

Hats off to Saban. I wasn’t crazy about the hire when I first heard he was coming to Bama. I had lived and worked in south Florida for several years, and had heard stories about this driven ego maniac who was coaching the Dolphins.

The guy is an exceptional coach, but there are a couple of things to consider:

(a) Shula left him with a nucleus of very talented football players. The depth he needed wasn’t there in 2007, but talent and experience at key positions was.

(b) Many of Bama’s players weren’t willing to but into Saban’s program. That always happens with any coaching change. After those players exited the scene, and Saban added to the depth chart – after that you get 2009.

(c) Saban has an entirely different situation this year. The talent (and depth) is there, but experience at key (defensive) positions is lacking. How soon Bama can coach-up the new kids will determine how successful this season is. No one will know the answer to any of this for a few more weeks.

BTW – Chizik was dealt an entirely different hand at Auburn. He arrived with very little talent, and virtually no depth on the team. He and his staff have made huge strides in correcting both. The biggest problem that he faces, and that Saban didn’t face; Saban didn’t have to deal with Saban on the other side of the state.

Gotta love bama fans

September 15th, 2010
10:07 am

“Chizik was dealt an entirely different hand at Auburn. He arrived with very little talent, and virtually no depth on the team. He and his staff have made huge strides in correcting both. The biggest problem that he faces, and that Saban didn’t face; Saban didn’t have to deal with Saban on the other side of the state.’

Very true and Chizek also landed Auburn’s highest recruiting class in Aubie history.

3rdn8

September 15th, 2010
10:11 am

Gotta love bama fans

agree….am very impressed with Chizik.

Good luck on Saturday

Paul in RDU

September 15th, 2010
10:11 am

jumbeauxtiger – Winston-Salem would be a nice trip for the Alabama fans but I don’t think they have Wake on the schedule. Duke is in Durham.

Woostock Dawg

September 15th, 2010
10:12 am

This year’s UGA team is very different than last year’s team, and South Carolina’s team this year is WAY better than last year’s..UGA started a 5th yr Senior at QB last year and this year it has an up-and-coming Redshirt FR as QB who is going to be a star. Also UGA has a brand new DC and defensive scheme ( although the tackling sure looks the same as last year !!) Give the Dawgs a little time this year..they will beat Ark because the 3-4 will work better against Mallet than it did against Lattimore. It’s going to be a lot of fun to watch this year play out..have some patience Dawg fans. This team will grow up and improve very quickly on both sides of the ball.

McGarity

September 15th, 2010
10:12 am

Wonder what my new Georgia coach will be left with ?

pbj

September 15th, 2010
10:12 am

Chad Go take your political nitwit self elsewhere.

how2fish

September 15th, 2010
10:13 am

Alphare nice points but I have a question..when is it ever easy to win 10 games in the SEC? For anyone? We Hit and Run This State ..I have one word for you…… Jay Hawks!

Gotta love bama fans

September 15th, 2010
10:13 am

3rdn8

Yeah, I was very skeptical of him but when Charles Barkley started calling Auburn a racist school I knew Auburn had made the right decision. The guy Charles wanted isn’t doing so hot at his new school. Buffalo’s old coach, can’t remember his name.

Anyhoo, yeah, Chizek has really turned that school around and thinks both offensively and defensively. ESPN doesn’t know what to say anymore now that Auburn has shown that it has a defense.

I’m sure they’ll pick ClemPson over Auburn this Saturday.

Paul in RDU

September 15th, 2010
10:16 am

Any Bama fans travelling to Durham are not going to be able to park their RVs on campus until after 5 on Friday. Duke has arranged for parking off campus (for a fee) for anyone arriving early

http://www.newsobserver.com/2010/09/14/680021/blue-devils-will-see-red.html

JB

September 15th, 2010
10:17 am

Just think………….possible, just possible that LSU, Bama,GA and Fla could be looking for new coach’s next year…………..wouldn’t that be interesting. Kirby probably takes over Bama, Muschamp to LSU or Georgia. Chris Peterson to Florida and we’ll need one more….help me somebody.

3rdn8

September 15th, 2010
10:17 am

re: What has luck to do with it?

Every successful football team has to have some luck along the way. The ‘92 Bama team struggled against So. Miss, and Tulane. Last year Bama could have easily lost 4 or 5. A blocked kick(s), or a questionable call can effect the outcome. Running the table is a very rare event. I think Bama has been able to pull it off five times in sixty years. I heard Bill Oliver say that getting a team’s “A” game every week will not happen. The trick is to survive when your team is playing at their “B minus” level.

Coach Richt

September 15th, 2010
10:19 am

I’ll take a b- now

MB

September 15th, 2010
10:22 am

No charges were pressed agains Rainey. The woman who his remarks were directed at said she did not want to see him arrested and she did not feel threatened.

This could well be a case where there are no legal ramfications yet Rainey will be suspened anyway.

Gator Kim

September 15th, 2010
10:22 am

“IF the arrest record is completely accurate and Rainey did send that message to the female, regardless of their relationship, he should be done as a college football player. Period. I have zero tolerance for men threatening women.”

I am a crazy gator fan & I couldn’t agree with this statement more.

Nix_2_Sanders

September 15th, 2010
10:25 am

Alabama’s not going to go undefeated.- Nov 26, 2010

Wildgator

September 15th, 2010
10:25 am

I am not agreeing with what Rainey did (VERY DUMB MOVE), but UF better be careful with this. Tebow got a concussion last year and was in the hospital for like 2-3 days for observation. Rainey on the other hand was out roaming the streets a day or so later??? Watch out UF, and hopefully this doesn’t turn into a ugly lawsuit from the female and Rainey.

It looks like this will be the first year and a long time that UF and uga will meet each other with more then one lost. And on that note GO GATORS!

college is forever

September 15th, 2010
10:30 am

http://www.collegelunchboxes.com Go Dawgs, redemm yourselves beat the Hogs!!!

Flo-Ri-Duh!

September 15th, 2010
10:30 am

Rainey will be suspended more han one game – probably two – he has a concussion and it will take at least two weeks for him to be cleared to play any way.

DP

September 15th, 2010
10:34 am

I’m an Alabama grad and fan but worrying about what might happen at the end of the year after 2 games have been played is madness. I remember 2 years ago when the topic of conversation on these blogs among Georgia fans was the injustice of being dropped from #1 preseason to #3 after the first couple of games despite not losing because USC and Oklahoma had been more impressive. They didn’t spend much time worrying about the upcoming home game against Alabama which figured to be a walkover because they were too worried about finishing undefeated and being left out of the championship game.

Here’s Tony’s column on “what if this turns out to be another 2004?” from September, 2008:

http://www.ajc.com/blogs/content/shared-blogs/ajc/cfb/entries/2008/09/24/usc_oklahoma_ge.html

“I know it’s way too early to be thinking about this kind of stuff and that the odds are greatly against it. But what if No. 1 Southern Cal, No. 2 Oklahoma, and No. 3 Georgia all go undefeated?
Which team would be the odd man out for the BCS championship game?
It’s not that far-fetched. It certainly happened in 2004 when USC and Oklahoma went undefeated and Auburn, the undefeated SEC champion, finished No. 3.”

USC lost the next night at Oregon State, 27-21.

Georgia lost at home that weekend to Alabama in the infamous blackout game, trailing 31-0 at the half and losing by a final score of 41-30.

Oklahoma lost to Texas 45-35 on October 11.

So all 3 of the teams in Tony’s “what if it is 2004 again?” scenario lost in the next 3 weeks. It could happen again this year. After playing Duke this weekend, Alabama plays the 3 next best teams in the SEC according to the current polls in consecutive weeks: at Arkansas, Florida, at South Carolina. They could lose any of those games and if they look ahead like Tony and Georgia fans did in 2008 they will lose.

Is it a news flash to state that Boise State won’t make it past Alabama and Ohio State or Oklahoma or Texas or Florida or South Carolina or Oregon or Wisconsin or Iowa or any other team that makes it through a major conference schedule undefeated? Any of those teams would pile up points in the computer rankings for beating good teams while Boise State is feasting on cupcakes.

Why would anybody who has followed college football and seen the many upsets every year worry about the final polls two weeks into the season? Is the regular season too boring?

Gtr17

September 15th, 2010
10:37 am

Gotta Love Bama Fans

Charges were pressed, but according to an August 18 ESPN article,
“The State Attorney’s Office dropped the most serious charges against Newton (grand theft and tampering) after he completed a pretrial intervention program for first-time offenders.”

Alphare

September 15th, 2010
10:41 am

how2fish,

no, it won’t be easy in the SEC to win 10 games. But my point is, UGA is likely a 9-3 or 8-4 team this year, and a loss to AR on the coming Saturday can be part of that record, and UGA fans should not call for CMR’s job because of the possible loss to AR.

Paul in RDU

September 15th, 2010
10:42 am

Gotta love bama fans.

Turner Gill (who was coach at U Buffalo at the time) was Sir Charles’ favorite for the Auburn HC position. He took Buffalo to their first bowl game in 50 years 2 years ago, had a mixed season last year and is now 1-1 at Kansas – I think everyone on this blog knows who those 2 games were against.

3rdn8

September 15th, 2010
10:45 am

I’m willing to give Cam Newton a pass. He did a stupid thing in buying a latptop at the price he gave. He knew that the transaction was a littie iffie, or he wouldn’t have thrown it out the window when the search started.

BUT…..that is the only bad thing I’ve ever heard. He seems to be a bright, articulate young man. He has never been accused of violent acts, or anything else smacking of felony.

He’s a heck-of-an-athlete.

Let’s just enjoy the moment.

Old Dawg

September 15th, 2010
10:47 am

It’s time for Florida to get rid of Chris Rainey. If Meyer doesn’t do this, he has no soul!

Mike

September 15th, 2010
10:50 am

So…if Alabama and Ohio State win out, they’re in the title game. The title game was decided before a single game was played based on mindless speculation and opinion.

I thought this was the “greatest regular season” and the whole “the season is a playoff.”

I guess not.

help, I live in Ga

September 15th, 2010
10:51 am

1. It will be Bama and Ohio State. I wish we had a playoff.
2. Les Miles can’t coach a lick.
3. Give it to #2 and you win. The Rainey situation isn’t that simple. The girlfreind now says she doesn’t fear Rainey, she fears retribution from Gator fans. Unbelievable.
4. Go Dukies
5. You go Cutcliffe. A man of pride. Too bad he had too much pride to take the Tennessee job. But he’s probably better off at Duke. Go Dukies!!

cantondawg

September 15th, 2010
10:51 am

Old School football,

I laugh at your comments and you in general..Very lame post. CMR gets paid millions of dollars to do one thing and that’s to coach football. There’s nothing possible that YOU could ever say that hasn’t already been discussed by all of the coaches. You’re not around the team during practice and film sessions so you have no idea of each players strengths and weakness. You trying to give CMR a word of wisdom is like Pee wee Herman telling Arnold Schwarzenegger how to lift weights.

GSU Eagle 91

September 15th, 2010
10:54 am

Bama fans..You are living the good life right now…Your football coach is, IMO, the best in the land….He simply understands that football is not that complicated a game, but that each player must do THEIR assignment and either block or tackle well…
The Iowa Hawkeyes will have something for OSU but in the end I agree with Tony and I think it will be OSU/Bama in the title game…
But it is early…Let’s talk about this in a month….

Delbert D.

September 15th, 2010
10:59 am

I’ve gotten mad at computers enough to throw them out the window.

Coach Richt

September 15th, 2010
10:59 am

DP………….not good news coming out of Birmingham this AM about Saban. No, not him. outside forces, which when you do what Saban is doing, you guys can’t stop it. He can always say no, but if he wins ya’ll another title this year, why would he. He has “won” himself in a corner at Bama……………word is ( pretty good source for the concern) that Jerry Jones of the Cowboys is coming after Saban at Years end. It’s coming from the office of that big money Bama booster who owns that steel company over there.

Alphare

September 15th, 2010
11:00 am

Here is UGA’s SEC record in the past 10 years, except 2002 with a one loss, UGA has 2 or more SEC losses in other years. 02 is the year you should be in the NC, but got bad luck I guess.

00: 5-3
01: 5-3
02: 8-1
03: 6-2
04: 6-2
05: 6-2
06: 4-4
07: 6-2
08: 6-2
09: 4-4

npgator

September 15th, 2010
11:00 am

Rainey should be punished but not kicked off the team completly. I would keep him on a short leash and since he has no other history of problems he should be given a chance.

Auburn Pride

September 15th, 2010
11:01 am

Auburn is looking great – one game at a time – but we should at least wind up second in the SEC West.

Also – UGA is in FLAT OUT Trouble!!!!! FIVE losses minimum this year.
Arkansas, Florida, Auburn and GT will all beat UGA this year.

Also – Misssissippi State and Kentucky are 50/50 games.

Good thing Tennessee and Vandy are both below UGA.

My prediction is that Richt will be gone after 2011 season – he is like Tuberville. Had the program going – got complacent – got STALE – lsot recruits and settled average kids to fill roster slots – and now UGA is average. UGA will need to make a Head Coach change to spark the program.

G8R GRAD

September 15th, 2010
11:03 am

No sympathy for Rainey, provided what we were told is true. However, I can’t help but feel sorry for a 19-20 year old kid whose emotions trumped his good sense.
Again, if the allegations of the content of his texts are true, this young man has made a life-changing decision – to his detriment and will have to live with its ramifications.
Still, it troubles me to end a kid’s future because of a stupid mistake.
Clearly his girlfriend doesn’t consider him a threat to her safety since she insisted on not pressing charges.
We aren’t privy to what precipitated such a rash response by Chris here, and speaking from personal experience, I’ve had women press buttons that sent me ballistic – and I said and did things I later beat myself up for.
I’m in no way condoning threatening women physically or otherwise, but I can relate to moments of weakness in my own experince where matters of the heart were involved.

JB

September 15th, 2010
11:08 am

Auburn pride………………I’m afraid you are close…..Most Richt teams rebound and get stronger.
way way too many concerns about this team. Weak at DL,DE,LB…..Overrated OL, RF QB, who I think will be pretty good. Two overrated RB’s. loaded at TE, but a OC who can’t get a ball to a playmaker to save his life. Poor game planning and Management. I’m worried…….Saturday will tell us a lot……………Last Saturday opened the wound..This Saturday tells the tale.

DP

September 15th, 2010
11:09 am

Thanks for passing on the information from your inside sources Coach Richt, i.e. JB (the …….’s give you away). I’m sure you and your sources are as reliable as the ones who told us in Georgia that Kirby Smart had privately accepted the DC job at Georgia and the ones who told us a week ago that AJ Green had already been reinstated for the South Carolina game.

Dream on about Saban being somewhere other than Tuscaloosa next year.

kevin

September 15th, 2010
11:11 am

Tony,

2004 all over again? Undefeated Auburn getting left out was BS, but they played in the best conference in college football (or at least 1 of the 2 best at the time). And in the case of 2004, someone in a major conference had to be left out. An undefeated 2010 Boise State is not remotely analogous to an undefeated 2004 Auburn. Boise State should not get the NC even if OSU and Bama both have 1 loss. B/c Boise State, sans VT (which happens to seem terrible this year) and Oregon State, plays in a dumpy conference against creampuffs week in and week out.

Auburn had a legitimate complaint in 2004. Boise State, under current circumstances, will never have a similar, justifiable complaint.

Mobile Dawg

September 15th, 2010
11:12 am

Nothing personal but the Kool Aid some of you drink clouds your perception of what’s going on in Athens, or more appropriately, what’s not going on in Athens. Good program management, and coaching. We go, and we watch the games, we observe and evaluate all phases of the game. We know CMR doesn’t listen to what we say as far as our thoughts on what our strategy and decisions would be. We come on the blogs to discuss the games, question and talk about the strategy, voice our opinion, as fans and supporters we have that right, most of us love our Dawgs.

You’re right, we don’t know everything that goes on, but we do see the results and we don’t like them. I will be glad to debate any of you on football topics any day and take thoughts and feelings out of it We can agree to disagree but leave the arrogance, name calling, and otherwise snide attitudes unposted please.

And by the way, if it weren’t for the vocal, disagreeing, and dissenting do you think CTG would be here today with his supporting cast?

DP

September 15th, 2010
11:12 am

And look, there’s JB posting shortly after “Coach Richt”, both with the …..’s. Coincidence I’m sure.

Still Doubtful

September 15th, 2010
11:15 am

Bama will lose two games this season. All the opponents with Bye weeks will have its effect. OSU will be #1 and will likely win the National Championship over the Big 12 champion or Oregon.

Not So Fast

September 15th, 2010
11:15 am

Auburn Pride, I’m also an AU fan, but you are jumping the proverbial gun. Last 5 years, you’re 3-2 against Bama, but not likely to win this year either. 1-4 against LSU, 1-4 against UGA, 2-3 against Arky. Plus you have SC and KY from the East. I’d say you’d be lucky to split these 6 games. Hope I’m wrong, though. Also, it’s awfully early to be writing the Dawgs off, after one loss.

KR

September 15th, 2010
11:22 am

As an Auburn fan, the only thing I’m concerned with at this point is whether or not we have improved over last week. In case people forget, Clemson was the #2 team in the ACC last year.

How ’bout we play ‘em one at a time?

1. Way too early to think about.
2. I don’t think Miles knows what to do.
3. I don’t have all of the facts, but let’s hope UF handles the situation appropriately.
4. That’s a nice bit of trivia.
5. It appears that the only people who wanted to move the game to Charlotte were the Alabama fans. Can’t blame Cutcliffe for trying to maintain any perceived advantage (home field) he might have in this game.

G8R GRAD

September 15th, 2010
11:30 am

help:

“The girlfreind now says she doesn’t fear Rainey, she fears retribution from Gator fans. Unbelievable.”

Just as handles are hijacked on this blog, it’s not outside the realm of possibility that Rainey’s roomates and/or buddies (or Chris himself using their phones) were those calling the girl.
Just as you would prefer to think of those in whichever “Nation” you consider yourself alligned, no self-respecting UF graduate would threaten a helpless girl to benefit their football team.

gdawginkalamazoo

September 15th, 2010
11:36 am

GTr17, yes but Meyer had a guy named Tebow that was going to be his QB so Newton didn’t stand a chance. Probably thought he did the kid a favor.

G8R GRAD, I feel the same way about the Rainey situation, or any one of these athletes in college that do things like this. It is sad to see a promising future thrown away because of an instance of stupidity. I don’t care whose program it is, to see the kids hurt others and themselves like this is just plain sad.

As for the rest of the season and the year end poll I guess we have a lot of football to watch. If OSU and Bama run the tables no way in hell Boise should move up. They better look out for Texas, they may pass them.