How many South Carolina players could miss Georgia game?

It’s Friday. The season starts next Thursday and Lord, please let it get here quickly. We have just about talked this sport to death.

Because it’s Friday the floor is open to you on any topic. Keep it clean, of course.  Here are five topics just to get the party started:

1. How many South Carolina players will miss the Georgia game on Sept. 11? It’s a pretty good bet that tight end Weslye Saunders will not play in the opener with Southern Mississippi next Thursday. The NCAA has had a couple of prayer meetings (that’s Southern for “serious conversations”) with young Weslye over several issues.

Now, thanks to some good reporting by Joe Person of The State newspaper in Columbia, we learn that a bunch of Gamecocks have been living in a local hotel.

Nothing wrong with that because they get a $500 monthly allowance to live where they want. The problem is that the Whitney Hotel is not a Motel 6. It has a limo service and whoever runs the thing was letting the players live there for $450 a month. Person’s reporting revealed that using the lowest possible discount rate the hotel provides, the value of the room was, at a minimum, $1,200 a month.

It won’t shock you to know that there is a rule against that. The standard punishment here is for the players to pay the difference in what they should have paid and what they actually paid PLUS a two-game suspension. That means several South Carolina players could miss the Sept. 11 game with Georgia.

Spurrier won’t make any excuses, he never does. His attitude will be that the players knew the rules and chose not to follow them. They get $500 a month for housing and they made the choice. Spurrier doesn’t believe in baby sitting players and he’s not about to start now. But if this blows up and a season with so much promise goes quickly south, I’m not going to be surprised if he walks away.

2. Some advice to the freshmen at Florida. Don’t mess with Mike Pouncey: This much is clear. Something happened at Florida which caused two of Florida’s “Five Star” recruits–Ronald Powell and Dominique Easley–to miss part of practice on Tuesday. Coach Urban Meyer would not say why. There were reports that the two players were not happy with the way they were being pushed in practice. On Thursday Meyer said everything was “fine.”

At Florida’s media day Easley compared he and a couple of his freshmen teammates to LeBron James, Chris Bosh, and Dwayne Wade of the Miami Heat.

That’s just precious. I guess young Mr. Easley feels he and his young teammates have arrived in Gainesville to save the program that has only won 57 games and two national championships in the past five seasons.

All-America offensive lineman Mike Pouncey said that the freshmen need to talk less and play more.

 “At the end of the day the freshmen need to just shut their mouths and just come play,” Pouncey told reporters when asked about the freshman class.  ”They haven’t done nothing on Saturday, and most of the fans don’t even know who they are. Until they prove themselves they just need to sit back and let the older guys play.”

Highly recruited freshmen. Don’t you just love them?

3. Splitting Michigan and Ohio State is a bad idea: There is now talk that the Big Ten might split up Ohio State and Michigan when the conference goes to divisional play in 2011. The thinking is that the two old rivals would play once in the regular season and possibly again for the Big Ten championship and a spot in the Rose Bowl. In order to do that the Ohio State-Michigan game would be moved to an earlier spot on the calendar instead of the last game of the regular season.

Bad, bad, idea.

The Big 12 screwed up and did away with the annual Nebraska-Oklahoma game when it went to divisions.  This would be an equally bad mistake. The ACC split of Miami and Florida State thinking they would play for the title. Hasn’t happened yet.

For anybody who cares, this is how I would split up the Big Ten:

BO DIVISION

Ohio State

Michigan

Iowa

Michigan State

Indiana

Purdue

WOODY DIVISION

Penn State

Nebraska

Wisconsin

Illinois

Northwestern

Minnesota

Everybody gets to keep one rivalry game from the other division, just like the SEC.

4. More trouble at North Carolina: The University of North Carolina-Chapel Hill, has always taken a lot of pride in conducting its athletics program the right way. This is where Dean Smith worked, for goodness sakes.

So school officials and alumni can’t be happy today to learn that the NCAA is looking into possible academic misconduct by a number of Tar Heel football players. This comes on top of the NCAA investigation into DT Marvin Austin and possible improper contact with an agent.

Now we have no idea who will be available when North Carolina takes on LSU a week from tomorrow at the Georgia Dome. This was a season with so much promise at North Carolina. Will it now start to unravel?

5. The FWAA strips USC of another championship: Pat Haden, the new athletics director at Southern California, has already sent Reggie Bush’s Heisman Trophy back to the Heisman Trust. They have stripped photos and references to Bush from Heritage Hall.

USC will return the BCS championship Trophy of 2004 if the appeal of its NCAA sanctions is denied.

Now USC will have to send back another national championship trophy, this one given by the Football Writers Association of American, which has presented the Grantland Rice Trophy since 1956. That organization (of which I am a member and former president) voted to vacate USC’s title but not to award it to another school.

My personal preference would have been to award the trophy to Auburn, which went 13-0, won the SEC championship, but did not get a chance to play for the national championship. Auburn finished No. 2 behind USC in all the polls including the final FWAA vote that season. But I respect the decision of my fellow writers.

Assuming USC’s appeal of its NCAA sanctions will be denied, the Trojans will have been stripped of two national championships (BCS, FWAA). The Associated Press announced earlier this year that USC will be allowed to keep its 2004 title.

 

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396 comments Add your comment

Athens Police

August 27th, 2010
4:53 pm

I really doubt that the police are riding around looking for players that have suspended licenses, cause accidents and leave the crime. If they are they are really good at what they do…

Cat got your tougue KR???

August 27th, 2010
4:57 pm

Enter your comments here

Fred

August 27th, 2010
5:16 pm

gdawginkalamazoo: I’m not making excuses for the kid, but I’ve been there too. When I was 15 I got a speeding ticket in Jackson MS. I never got anything saying when the fine was due and was young and stupid and didn’t even KNOW there was a court date. Things being different back then, they sent me a letter telling me that I had missed my court date and if I didn’t send them some cash by such and such a date THEN they would issue a warrant.

We are treating these stupid kids as if they were stupid adults, forgetting that virtually ALL of us were at some point stupid kids. An unpaid ticket is nowhere in the same zip code of an assault or a robbery. This is much ado about nothing and it’s sad.

Just saying………..

Fred

August 27th, 2010
5:19 pm

Athens Police: You can bet your bottom dollar that these campus cops know ALL the players and they seem to get in trouble a LOT. In a number way out of proportion of common sense AND Campus numbers. It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure this out. They ARE targetting the atheletes and they WOULDN’T be doing it if Adams didn’t pressure them to do so.

APD

August 27th, 2010
5:30 pm

Fred,

The guy is 20 years old. He’s old enough to know that missing a court date is serious. You need not be a rocket scientist to understand that. We have 20 year olds in Iraq and Afgh. with the responsibility of making life and death decisions under immense stress and operating multi million dollar equipment and doing a good job of both. Your excuse making for a 20 year old man that can’t or won’t take care of business is pathetic.

And the idea that the cops are targeting the athletes, especially Easley is absurd. They didn’t target Easley. They were called to the scene of an accident after Easley fled the scene. They then had to go and arrest him per the law. In what way, shape, or form is this targeting someone. Did they entrap him into running into another car and then leaving the scene? Idiot!

APD

August 27th, 2010
5:33 pm

Fred,

Furthermore you state that President Adams is having the campus cops target athletes? Why? So that Adams can heap further embarrassment on himself and his appointed athletic director? You obviously didn’t think that one through you mindless moron.

Questions for Tide Rising

August 27th, 2010
5:35 pm

I am trying to get a handle on what Saban would kick players off the team for.
1. Would an ARREST for any traffic offense get a player booted?
2. Would an ARREST for underage possession of alcohol get a Bama player the boot, and do you think this is not going on among football players in Tuscaloosa at all?
3. Would driving a scooter with a suspended license get a Bama player off the team?
4. Would a first offense DUI do the job?
5. Is there any kind of ARRESTt where Saban would not kick the guy off the team?

Just trying to figure out if Nick is running a zero tolerance policy with no regard for any extenuating circumstances, which was the impression I got from reading a couple of your posts.

Ramma Bama

August 27th, 2010
5:39 pm

The Ga program is out of control with all these arrests, no discipline, players quitting and coming back, etc. Saban wouldn’t put up with any of this stuff—which is why he wins big and richt has mediocre teams.

Beast from the East

August 27th, 2010
6:04 pm

lawdawg,
I seriuosly doubt you are a graduate of UGA. You are ill-mannered, rude and simple-minded. If you are a lawyer, I’m sure you do not have any repeat clients. I would not pay $.10 an hour for your services, much less hundreds. You are an embarrassment to yourself and the Dawg Nation. Sorry, but after reading all of your snide comments, I could not help but respond. It is people like you, Simple Simon, Saint Simons and several others that ruin any kind of civil football discussion on these blogs.

LawDog2011

August 27th, 2010
6:18 pm

Nerds, just remember who runs the state. Ealey will be done with his community service for these minor charges before he performs another series of “hit and runs” on your terrible defense, again. 30-24.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-zZ_qIJ3aQ

Mark "Crimson Crier" Ingram

August 27th, 2010
6:19 pm

It’s a good example of coaches envy when UGAY fans display “psychological projection” by criticizing Saban and Meyer for leaving former coaching positions where they won their conferences, went undefeated and/or won BCS bowls and/or BCS National Championships.
They left because they were in demand and be sought after by better programs due to exceptional coaching ability. Richt was sought by UGAYs due to his success at FSU, but lately no one is beating down his door.

dawgteem

August 27th, 2010
7:09 pm

Hell everybody is a criminal in Athens even peple that have been coming to games for 40 years. You get treated much better at away games. SAD,SAD,SAD !

Steve Spurrier

August 27th, 2010
7:37 pm

My boys will sit one game and it won’t be against the dawgs.

Tide Rising

August 27th, 2010
7:51 pm

Questioner at 5:35,

Saban doesn’t have a zero tolerance policy. He has a harsh policy but its fair. Its unlikely Saban would run someone off for something like driving on a suspended license. But what you are missing and the point I’m trying to make is that Saban’s discipline is harsh enough and the players have enough fear of consequences to stay out of trouble. Its that simple. A player wouldn’t be driving on a suspended license to begin with for fear of real consequences with Saban.

If Saban regularly boots players for breaking team rules such as behavioral issues or missing class/tutoring sessions then the message is clear to Bama players. If you get arrested and embarrass the university you may or may not get booted. There may be extenuating circumstances, etc. But the point is that you don’t want to get arrested and find out. That is the point

Questions for Tide Rising

August 27th, 2010
8:06 pm

Thanks for the clarification

Ramblin

August 27th, 2010
9:46 pm

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Nesbitt for Heisman
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Payne

August 27th, 2010
9:54 pm

Man I wish half of yall would spell ealey’s name right! Its not ealy!

Trevor Berbick

August 27th, 2010
11:14 pm

I wonder if the WBA would strip Mike Tyson of the title; the azz whoopin I got would feel different. I don’t think so.

Old Dawg

August 27th, 2010
11:35 pm

Years ago, at a junior college in the University of Georgia system, the student body president, president of the BSU, president of the Key Club etc, etc was caught stealing text books from the campus book store and selling them back at the end of the quarter. He was also selling text books at other university system schools. He was expelled, couldn’t enroll in a university system school for two years, but eventually graduated with honors and went on to have a good career as an accountant.

I bring this story to light because even the supposedly “best” students can make mistakes. I’m not defending Ealey’s actions, simply reminding everyone that college kids make mistakes. Hell, even my father forgot to renew his driver’s license once. When he tried to rent a car on a business trip he was embarrassed by his mistake … and the rental agency grudgingly allowed him to have the rental (things were much different in the 1960s).

Amazingly, since so many Tech fans seem to think only UGA folks make mistakes, my father had a master’s degree from the Flats.

Again, I am not defending the mistakes of UGA athletics, just reminding everyone that college kids, adults, and, yes, even the daughter of the former governor of Alaska make mistakes. It’s called being human.

Perhaps more people need to remember that.

Concerned

August 28th, 2010
12:53 am

Mr. Barnhart,

I’m not from around here. I grew up in a place where you had to earn every step you took. In 2004 Auburn came in second, it’s true they were undefeated, but they came in second. That means something. It means they were judged and found wanting. They didn’t deserve ‘first’. I take offense to you wanting to reward a team with something they didn’t earn on the field. You can’t and shouldn’t rewrite history to fit your desires. Your wants are your own. I hope one day you can experience what it’s like to commit to something greater than yourself, for I can tell you’ve never played the game you write about. If you can find a significant proportion of Auburn players that share your viewpoint, I’d be shocked. The difference between a guy in the stands and the guy on the field is that the guy on the field knows when he’s been beat–even if his adversary doesn’t line up against him. A real player doesn’t want the luxury of the ‘what ifs’. Where I come from, when a guy earns his next step, he ain’t looking back at his footprints. It speaks volumes about Auburn’s current situation if they want their silver to look like gold; and says a lot about you, Tuberville and the rest of the so called administration who prefer to covet an undeserved reward rather than mold a championship team.

Russ, yes the painted one

August 28th, 2010
12:58 am

A 1-game suspension for Ealey is a joke and the very reason CMR continues to have one of the worst disciplined teams in one of the least disciplined conferences. Why was Ealey’s license suspended in the first place???? Sonny will have to paint me white for the home opener because I will be bright red with embarassment and shame at what my university has become: Gangsta U.

Russ, yes the painted one

August 28th, 2010
1:04 am

Concerned, haha. You faulty logic and righteous tone “…they were found wanting….” are excellent satire. You didn’t grow up where you had to earn everything you have, ….because you haven’t grown up yet. At least not intellectually. I don’t even like Auburn, but they got screwed that year. I agree that awarding vacated titles or belated championships is not appropriate, and neither is it a proper remedy. Unfair things happen, just look at my painted a$$ or in your own mirror, Concerned, and that fact will be clear. But don’t get sanctimonious on us, and don’t even try to deny that you voted for Obama.

Dawg'89

August 28th, 2010
1:09 am

Concerned, you clearly never played the game yourself or you would not be talking in platitudes about giving yourself to larger things and being judged and found wanting. That Auburn team never got the chance to PLAY for their championship, which is the whole point. Are you saying that what a group of WRITERS (who, in your own words probably never played the game) voted on is the definitive word on a team’s worth or degree of success???? You do contradict yourself. And it’s really not all that important anyway, now is it?

Dawg'89

August 28th, 2010
1:10 am

Concerned should be “Committed.”

The most moronic post of 2010

August 28th, 2010
1:10 am

ATL XMAN

August 27th, 2010
11:10 am
just sit back and watch the saben ship sink after this year. all of shulas players will be gone and saben youngsters will have to step up. and when saben goes 7-5 again look for him to bolt

Dawg'89

August 28th, 2010
1:13 am

Why can’t we pay off the Athens Police and Campus Cops like all the other university towns do? Not enough free tickets, off-duty security gigs, game-day revenues and kickbacks? Loosen up the pursestrings, Adams and Richt, and let’s get the fuzz on board.

Dawg'89

August 28th, 2010
1:17 am

Old Dawg, I’m afraid it’s time for you to be put down. I love UGA but we clearly have a serious discipline problem on the football team that transcends “kids just being kids,” even at the #1 party school in the country (how embarassing). I fear the next thing we’ll be #1 in is in incarcerated atheletes. The good ol’ days weren’t always good, but they weren’t this bad.

Steve Spurrier

August 28th, 2010
1:20 am

That’s right, Coach Richt, you only have to suspend them for one meaningless game to get the suits off your back. You’re learning….you still have a ways to go….but you’re learning.

Steve Spurrier

August 28th, 2010
1:22 am

Richt’s decision to not meaningfully punish Ealey is tantamount to signing a Faustian contract….Welcome to the FFCC!: the Forgive the Felons Coaching Club, SEC Chapter. You’ll find all your pals here.

76-DAWG

August 28th, 2010
2:07 am

In order:
1- Never lie to your mother
2-Never lie to your father
3-Never lie to your pastor
4-Never lie to your coach, especially when you got a free $50,000 scholarship from him
If I was CMR , Ealey would set a new record running steps at 5:30 in the morning and I would talk Adams into reopening the north campus for tailgating because I just got a volunteer to clean up the trash after every home game.
4
Never lie to your coach

Galin Hall

August 28th, 2010
3:36 am

Mr. Belvedere

August 28th, 2010
7:37 am

I’m with Hammerhead on longer suspension. If Richt wants disciplinary credibility with these selfish young characters, he will have to earn it. The egotistical W. Ealey has presented him a great opportunity. Start making these knuckleheads pay for their stupid mistakes.

UGASlobberknocker

August 28th, 2010
7:53 am

Tony, on the big 10 divisions, yours has the same problem the ACC has, no rhyme or geographic reason for the splits..this is the way it should be.

East/ Penn State, Ohio State, Indiana , Purdue, Illinois, Northwestern

West/Michigan, Nebraska, Michigan State, Wisconsin, Iowa, Minnesota

This puts the best 4 programs in different divisions, (2 each)

reality

August 28th, 2010
8:01 am

I see your point Old Dawg, this is not an isolated incident. There have been too many “mistakes” made in Athens. This not only reflects on CMR but also Michael Adams. There is something rotten in Denmark.

In the JailHouse Now

August 28th, 2010
8:05 am

I guess it is like initiation in a Frat—-you can’t really be a true UGAY football player until you have a record. Some bring them from high school, others get them in Athens and at the beach–Ask Matt.
The UGAY recruits must be some of the dumbest people on the planet. If Richt really wanted to crack down he would suspend these guys past the first sissy game of the season– but wait–the real schedule begins after that so one game is it. I heard UGAY is bringing back D Evans to mentor the guys–but you have to bring your own red panties–not in the budget.

NorthStars Dave

August 28th, 2010
8:32 am

UGASlobberknocker is close with the 12 of the New Big 10….

East West
Penn St. Nebraska
Ohio St. Iowa
Michigan Wisconsin
Michigan St. Minnesota
Indiana Illinois
Purdue Northwestern

I hope the Big 10 does not make the same mistake that the ACC made…and, thankfully, the SEC didn’t. It was not too long ago that Illinois, now considered bad, was in the Rose Bowl….and if not for a terrible kicker, Northwestern would have beaten Auburn in the Outback last year…

Remember….when the SEC split into East/West, no one gave the West a chance….except for possibly Alabama….I think LSU had Gary DiNardo! However, the product from BOTH divisions has improved BECAUSE of the rivalries developed…and kept…

Hey ACC fans…quick, name the teams in each division? Geography works….

G8TR

August 28th, 2010
8:34 am

Please keep Mark Richt as HC as long as possible. He’s the UGA gift that keeps on giving.

Wash-On

August 28th, 2010
9:35 am

The thuggery at UGA is totally out of control, and it will continue to get worse while Mark Richt is HC. Fire Richt, hire a real coach, and this will end.

Until then, UGA will keep the Fulmer Cup, and will continue to be embarrassed on a regular basis.

Maybe McGarity has the integrity to do the right thing and sack Richt, but I doubt it.

The thugs and morons at UGA are becoming an embarrassment to everyone in the state, not just UGA. This has got to stop.

Cess Pool

August 28th, 2010
9:41 am

Well said, APD! Your words are worth repeating:

The guy is 20 years old. He’s old enough to know that missing a court date is serious. You need not be a rocket scientist to understand that. We have 20 year olds in Iraq and Afgh. with the responsibility of making life and death decisions under immense stress and operating multi million dollar equipment and doing a good job of both. Your excuse making for a 20 year old man that can’t or won’t take care of business is pathetic.

And the idea that the cops are targeting the athletes, especially Ealey is absurd. They didn’t target Easley. They were called to the scene of an accident after Ealey fled the scene. They then had to go and arrest him per the law. In what way, shape, or form is this targeting someone. Did they entrap him into running into another car and then leaving the scene? Idiot!

Margot

August 28th, 2010
9:44 am

Please keep Mark Richt as HC as long as possible. He’s the UGA gift that keeps on giving.

Amen to that!!!

Dawg Whisperer

August 28th, 2010
10:04 am

Honestly, I think some that post on these blogs breathe negativity instead of oxygen. If you really live to see someone else’s failure, you may consider counseling.

Dawg Whisperer

August 28th, 2010
10:11 am

Personally, I consider Mark Richt as a father figure gift for his players which is why many of the parents of these players entrust their child to him. UGA is a better place with coach Richt than without him. He may not be the winningest coach in the SEC but his integrity and sincerity are beyond reproach.

Mike Bobo 17 INT

August 28th, 2010
10:29 am

DawginLex

“It is better for people to think you are a fool than open your mouth and prove it.” – Mark Twain commenting about the ignorance of UGA fans.

South Carolina could show up with their scout squad and still beat the hell of your program.

LawDawg

August 28th, 2010
10:29 am

Hey, Please Tell Me Dawg Fans:
Any idea who won the Fulmer Cup in 2008? The answer is Alabama under Nick Saban. So by my estimation, Georgia should win the MNC in 2011.

Mike Bobo 17 INT

August 28th, 2010
10:31 am

Margot

Well said and keep them coming. Matter of fact, most of his opponents are taking a collection to extend his contract through 2025, because they all love CMR. He brings the discipline and level of intensity to lead a mediocre program.

Mike Bobo 17 INT

August 28th, 2010
10:35 am

Dawg Whisperer

That is the attitude his oppoents are looking for….a father figure. Saban is a father figure also, however, he will beat the pure living hell out of you if you step out of line, on or off the field.

There are new sheriffs in town, Saban, Meyer, Miles and PJ is not far behind. Champions are driven by demanding discipline and the best from their players, and it helps to stay out of jail.

Create a winning program, which attracts top talent, then advise these players if you screw up that you have 4 more right behind them ready to take their spot. Plain and simple.

Mike Bobo 17 INT

August 28th, 2010
10:36 am

The UGA program is tanked, nothing complicated here. They have the easiest schedule in 2010 and they will go 8-4 at best, including a total throttling by UF, again, and again, and again, and again………….

The Ole Ball Coach

August 28th, 2010
11:02 am

Gators freshmen Matt Elam and Solomon Patton arrested for possession of alcohol no games to be missed :O

taxpayer

August 28th, 2010
11:07 am

My first impression on the Ealey episode of yesterday was that it was no big deal. However, after reading more about Ealey, it appears something needs to be done for him to get a wake-up call. He apparently ignored an earlier summons to appear and pay a delinquent ticket. It’s been inferred that the coaching staff pointedly told him not to drive, which he ignored. There are also reports of him being involved in fights in high school as well as poor sportsmanship..

If all true, this isn’t a random event but a pattern. For his own good, he needs to be sent a strong message with a multiple-game suspension.

Dawg fans trying to gloss over all this need to realize that to not make him accountable just continues to feed the monster and cheapens the program (already devalued thanks to Evans, other players). Besides, RB is a position of strength.

Time for a message to be sent for Ealey’s and UGA’s own good.

NoGaGator

August 28th, 2010
11:14 am

The Ole Ball Coach -

You are correct. Elam was holding a can of beer in a parking lot. Solomon was holding a drink that had vodka in it at a club. They were minor-in-possession offenses. While no offenses are good they were not drunkenness or DUI charges.

To those thinking Athens police are aggressive, Gainesville police are equally so.