Can Bama’s Ingram win a second Heisman?

 Like DiMaggio’s 56-game hitting streak, with each year that goes by what Archie Griffin did in 1974-75 becomes a more impressive accomplishment. The Ohio State All-American remains the only player in history to win two Heisman Trophies.

There have been a numerous opportunities for repeat Heisman winners over the past 35 years:

**–If Herschel Walker had returned to Georgia for his senior season in 1983, you have to believe he would have won another Heisman.

**–Ditto for Barry Sanders, who won it in 1988 and turned pro early.

**–Oklahoma quarterback Jason White won it as a junior in 2003 but finished behind USC quarterback Matt Leinart and OU running back Adrian Peterson in 2004.

**–Leinart won it in 2004 as a junior when the Trojans won the BCS championship but in 2005 his teammate, Reggie Bush, took home the hardware. Then Bush passed up his senior year and turned pro.

**–We had back-to-back sophomores win in 2007 (Florida’s Tim Tebow) and 2008 (Oklahoma’s Sam Bradford) but neither could repeat. Alabama RB Mark Ingram became the third straight sophomore to win in 2009.

The point is that it’s hard to win back-to-back Heismans. Too many things have to fall into place. So in that vein I’m going to present my top five picks to win the 2010 Heisman Trophy:

1. Ryan Mallett, QB,  Arkansas: No player is more valuable to his team than Mallett is to Arkansas. If he does something special at Georgia on Sept. 18 and against Alabama in Fayetteville on Sept. 25 he could be in the hunt for the rest of the season. He should beat last season’s numbers (3,624, 30 TD) in his second year in Bobby Petrino’s system.

2. Terrelle Pryor, QB,  Ohio State: He gave us a glimpse of what he could be in the Rose Bowl against Oregon. He is good enough to lead the Buckeyes to an undefeated season and that will certainly put him in New York for the Heisman ceremonies. But let’s see what he does against an athletic Miami defense on Sept. 11. Does the coaching staff trust Pryor enough to turn him loose when it gets to be crunch time in the Big Ten race?

3. Mark Ingram,  RB, Alabama: He’ll get a lot of votes after winning it last season. But Ingram will not get as many carries (271 in 2009) in 2010 because of his talented backup, sophomore Trent Richardson, and the fact that Alabama plans to throw it a little more because they trust QB Greg McElroy and WR Julio Jones is finally healthy.

4. Christian Ponder, QB, Florida State: Ponder was playing as well as any quarterback in the country (68.8 percent passing, No. 3 in total offense 321.8 ypg) when he got hurt in the ninth game against Clemson last season. With a veteran offensive line (142 combined career starts) in front of him, Ponder could jump into the mix if he does something special when the Seminoles go to Oklahoma on Sept. 11.

 5. Ricky Dobbs, QB, Navy: Nobody from the service academies has won the award since Navy’s Roger Staubach in 1963. But this kid, a native of Douglasville, is special. Last season he rushed for 1,000 yards and passed for 1,000 yards. He scored 27 rushing touchdowns, which broke the NCAA record for quarterbacks set by  Tebow. And did I mention that he played the last six games on a broken kneecap? And did I mention that he is the Vice-President of the senior class at the academy? I just want this kid to get to the Heisman ceremonies in New York, which will be just a few hours after the Army-Navy game in Philadelphia on Dec. 11.

POSSIBLE BREAKTHROUGHS

Kellen Moore, QB, Boise State:  He’s 26-1 as a starting quarterback and will get a chance to make a statement on Sept. 6 against Virginia Tech. In two seasons he has thrown 64 touchdown passes and only 13 interceptions (39 TD, 3 INT last season).

Case Keenum, QB, Houston: Only the second quarterback in NCAA history with two seasons of 5,000 yards passing or more (Texas Tech’s Graham Harrell is the other). Could become Division I-A’s all-time leading passer with another big season.

Andy Dalton, QB, TCU: A long shot but he was the Mountain West offensive player of the year in 2009. Very underrated player. With 29 career wins, needs just one more to break Sammy Baugh’s record for most victories in school history.

Jacory Harris, QB, Miami: If Harris can cut down on his interceptions (17 last season)  and stays healthy he can be a really special player. Let’s see what he does at Ohio State on Sept. 11.

Noel Devine, RB, West Virginia: Now that C.J. Spiller of Clemson has gone to the NFL, Devine is the most explosive player in college football. He’s small (5-8, 180) but he has incredible speed.

PROGRAMMING NOTES:

  **–Wes Durham and I will host the return of ”The Southern Football Kickoff Show” at 11 a.m. this morning on 790 The Zone. On today’s show we have Eli Gold, the voice of the Alabama Crimson Tide.

**–Our final summertime version of “Talkin’ Football” will be tonight at 6 p.m. on CSS.

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156 comments Add your comment

gtgirl

August 26th, 2010
10:37 am

but only if Boise goes undefeated & I think VT will take care of that on Labor Day…Trent Richardson is awesome & could be a heisman contender perhaps next year

help, I live in Ga

August 26th, 2010
10:38 am

You know the Heisman voting is as flawed as the BCS Mythical Championship. It’s all a beauty pageant–or should I say a media pageant.
If we had an 8 game playoff and then voted for the best player after that, I could respect it more. Part of the problem is that the votes are in before the last game for most teams and that can be the most impportant game.

It would be interesting if Mallot won it though. Although I’d hate to see Petrino gain a recruiting edge because of it.

RxDawg

August 26th, 2010
10:41 am

The Heisman trophy is overrated. It’s a subjective award to what is usually the best player on the highest ranked team, or at least top 5 team.

But if I had to guess, Pryor will probably win it if OSU ends up in the big game.

bigdawg

August 26th, 2010
10:42 am

what Tokyo Jacket failed to mention also Kb is that if Nesbitt would throw more than 3 passes a game lie a QUARTERBACK does his passer rating would be no higher than that of say a Jonathan Crompton or a Joe Cox.

lets see Nesbitt’s passer rating when he cant just throw it within 50 yards of Thomas and watch what happens.

Tide Rising

August 26th, 2010
10:43 am

“Show a little respect on here. It ain’t been that long since ya’ll lived on the other side of the tracks. Hell, we even took advantage of you the last 3 of 4 meetings.”

JB,

Since you make a point that you “took advantage of us in 3 of the last 4 meetings” I’ll apologize for taking advantage of UGA in 4 of the past 7 meetings and holding a 36-25 lead in the series.

As for showing a little respect. One lesson you need to learn before you can teach it, is that respect is earned, not just given. Your lack of courtesy and respect with your comments towards Bama on here garners you none.

bigdawg

August 26th, 2010
10:47 am

Ive watched the bandwagon in the SEC sway for a long time. it seems like its been with every team in the conference at some point.

2000-04 it was with Tennessee,
Then it went to LSU,
Then Florida,
preseason 08 it was UGA,
Then Florida again,
now its with Bama

sooooooo. whos next in line is what im left to wonder.
who will the typers and trolls choose to ally with next…

JB

August 26th, 2010
10:48 am

And the Bama folks on here really show UGA respect on here day in day out.?

how2fish

August 26th, 2010
10:54 am

Tokyo Jacket,there is only one reason Nesbit won’t win the Heisman…everyone hates Tech.

bank walker

August 26th, 2010
10:58 am

I concur with General Feeling totally. Toby Gerhart got snubbed, when he should have won it. Ingram was a feel good, and should have been 2nd or third. The Heistman has become a joke, and is meaningless.

bigdawg

August 26th, 2010
11:00 am

the Heisman is great for fans but it really has no meaning

when a fan’s favorite player doesnt win they resort to saying “its a joke” “its just a popularity contest”

Tide Rising

August 26th, 2010
11:00 am

JB,

Be honest about it. Every day the topic can have nothing to do with Bama and you or someone will start off with a little jab or an insult at Bama for no reason.

Now are there some bama fans that flame the dawgs? Of course. But more often than not its started by a dawg fan. Matter of fact if you just read the dawg blog with Bill King(I read it but rarely comment since its a dog blog) you can’t help but notice that the topic is obviously Georgia football but somehow or another a couple of dawg fans got to start in with comments about Bama when Bama has nothing to do with the topic. Most instate bama fans don’t even care about georgia. We’re not even big rivals.

Anyway, I don’t like bashing the dogs or anyone else’s program for that matter. Ya just managed to get me in a dander this morning with the anti Saban comments.

bigdawg

August 26th, 2010
11:02 am

we need more people like Tide Rising

Tide Rising

August 26th, 2010
11:06 am

JB,

I’m out dude. Got to go over and flame the dawgs on Bill King’s Junkyard blog. Just kidding of course. We’ll talk football again. In the meantime good luck to the dawgs and on Murray’s development which will be key to a 10 win season.

#1 BAMA FAN

August 26th, 2010
11:07 am

Hoss….you do not want to play us. JB…it’s convenient to only go back four years, see above sentance to Hoss.RTR

how2fish

August 26th, 2010
11:10 am

Tide Rising I think a few on here take a shot at you or Bama simply because of Tide Roll he is your fan base’s 12-2 here…there are a few trollers that I can’t help but bash on you sir are not one of them. Good Luck this year..I hope we have a boatload of discussions during the season..man can we just go ahead and start already !

Tide Rising

August 26th, 2010
11:24 am

how2fish,

Good Lord. Tide Roll is complete moron. I dread that he would be the standard by which Bama fans would be judged. I read the dog blog since I follow both the local schools and just like to see what’s going on with the different teams. Tide Roll must have a mental problem or something. He posts the same exact crazy drivel every single day-annoys the hell outta even me to no end. I’ll never understand how or why this guy would care who UGA recruits for their O-line. Just nutty. Anyway, I gotta get some work done. Talk some football later.

David Granger

August 26th, 2010
11:24 am

Don’t think Ingram will get that second Heisman. For one thing, a lot of voters will figure that…since he’s already got one…it’d be fairer to vote for someone else. The only way Ingram has a chance is for Alabama to play their way to the NC game again, and Ingram to have a HUGE year. (1,800 yards or better…which will be hard to do unless Trent Richardson gets hurt.) The only two-time winner was on a national championship team when he won his second one, and the REAL winner that year (Ricky Bell) was on a team having a down year. (Yes, I know Bell only finished fourth…but he was still the best that year.) Plus, the voters were swayed to vote for Griffin that season because of the “novelty” factor…there had never BEEN a two-time winner, and it was about time for one.
Tebow had a strange career, Heisman-wise. He was a big factor in two national championships, and led his team to another season where the only loss they suffered was to the national champion…yet the only Heisman he won was in the year his team had their worst record.

Gatorzone

August 26th, 2010
11:31 am

Bama, might have the best team EVER. If they go undefeated, they definitely will.

HugoStiglitz

August 26th, 2010
11:35 am

I think he was pretty lucky to win it last year. He was basically the best offensive player on the best team, therefore he got a Heisman for it. I think it will be a QB this year. More then likely Pryor, possibly Jacory Harris. Those are my best guesses. Hopefully some people step up this year though. Last years Heisman race was pretty dull.

Jake Locker

August 26th, 2010
11:54 am

Hey folks, what about me?

Ormewood

August 26th, 2010
11:59 am

Pryor had a good bowl game, but he was lousy last year as often as he was good. He’s not consistent enough to be Heisman-worthy in my book, though if his team is in the top five all year, he has a shot.

athensdawg

August 26th, 2010
12:08 pm

We should rename the heisman the NISSAN or the WENDY.

Its not what it used to be, folks……..like just about everything else in sports, it is just another commercial.

Mybe So

August 26th, 2010
12:12 pm

Easy Answer to the headline: NO

south eastern chumps

August 26th, 2010
1:46 pm

NESBITT FOR HEISMAN, IGNORE HIM ALL YOU WANT, YOUR GOOD AT THAT TONY, BUT IT ISN’T GOING AWAY

John Heisman

August 26th, 2010
1:47 pm

This whole thing is becoming an unspeakable human tragedy.

CalGatorBrotha

August 26th, 2010
2:06 pm

this is probably going to be the worst year of the heisman…..no Ingram wont repeat for the simple fact he will share more carries with Richardson this year…..there are plenty of good players but no one stands out as a clear cut favorite in this thing. What could happen is that we end up seeing a winner by default with the voters canceling out top choices

DawginLex

August 26th, 2010
2:13 pm

I will give you my darkhorse list:

Ealey-UGA
Cobb-UK
Locke-Uk
Masoli-UM
Nesbitt-GT

cantondawg

August 26th, 2010
2:26 pm

There’s one main reason why Mark Ingram will not win the award this year. The reason is Trent Richardson. He will get a ton of carries this year and i honestly think that he’s a better back than Ingram. No way will Ingram get enough carries to win the Heisman again

Habersham Dawg

August 26th, 2010
2:32 pm

Tech fans, if Nesbitt puts up a killer year and Tech is in the consideration for the mythical NC at the end of the year, he’ll be in consideration for the Heisman. For an ACC school not out of Florida, that’s what you have to do to win it. It’s not that fair, but that’s the way it is.

bamafan

August 26th, 2010
2:44 pm

Here’s hoping that Ryan Mallet wins the Jevan Snead award. UGA fans – you are putting a lot of eggs in your offensive line basket. Hope it works out okay – it did for BAMA in 2009 when we replaced 8 starters on offense. Ingram was as deserving as any other Heisman winner (when one considers how it is awarded) and more deserving than some (Anybody remember John Huarte who won it when Joe Namath was a senior or Gino Torretta who won it before Bama exposed him as a fraud in the 1992 title game??) Most Bama fans were uneasy about Ingram’s chances last year -
We view football as a team sport and will take our 13 (now – but only 12 when Ingram won) national titles any day over all the other schools Heisman trophies combined). I saw Ingram’s win as a possible jinx to Bama’s play in the game against Texas but it turned out alright. Bama fans want another National Title – we aren’t concerned with another Heisman – Hell, I hope we get to 26 national titles before we have another Heisman winner!

Andy Griffith

August 26th, 2010
2:52 pm

Ingram didn’t deserve the first one. He should have been about 6th-7th on the list. He’s just a tad above average!

5IML

August 26th, 2010
2:56 pm

Sure, Andy. I need to move back from the computer and go check on Otis.

5IML

August 26th, 2010
3:05 pm

I’m back. Otis is fine.

Why do you feel that Ingram did not deserve the Heisman, Andy?

KR

August 26th, 2010
3:32 pm

Auburn’s “patchwork defense” did not hold Ingram to 30 yards. One guy did. (I apologize, but his name escapes me right now…) His assignment the entire game was to be Ingram’s shadow and bring him down every chance he could. I don’t think Auburn’s defender followed Ingram to the Bama locker room, but he probably thought about it.

Unfortunately for Ingram, this is why he probably won’t repeat as Heisman winner. Other teams will have learned they can employ the “shadow” defense and stop him. The problem then becomes stopping Richardson at the same time. And then there’s Bama’s new guy…

Personally, I think Pryor will take an early lead in the polls based solely on the ESPN hype machine.

bamafan

August 26th, 2010
3:58 pm

I watched the replay of the Alabama Auburn game the other night and KR is correct. It was one guy and Bama didn’t block him once and he didn’t miss a single tackle. The “new guy” at BAMA is Eddie Lacy, I think.

Tide Rising

August 26th, 2010
4:01 pm

KR,

I believe it was Josh Bynes that shadowed Ingram the whole game. Did a good job obviously.

Tide Rising

August 26th, 2010
4:07 pm

KR,

Another good observation by KR on Pryor. I agree that he takes the early lead in the Heisman race because of media bias. Several posters have noted and its true that basically the Heisman winner almost always is either the best guy on the best team or the best guy on a top 5 team. Basically just a popularity contest based on media hype. I’m glad for Ingram last year but frankly I don’t give a hoot about the Heisman. Just one of many individual awards and is basically just a media and popularity contest. I lost faith in it when Peyton Manning lost to Charles Woodson. What a joke that was.

NESBITT ............ for ......... HEISMAN

August 26th, 2010
4:11 pm

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…… After all is said and done.
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NESBITT FOR HEISMAN
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5IML

August 26th, 2010
4:14 pm

The Heisman is awarded to “the most outstanding player in college football.” That’s the only guideline. Each voter decides what that means for him/her. As most voters (and fans) don’t watch every college game, highlights (i.e. ESPN) play a big part in shaping the perception of who is most outstanding.

I’m happy that Ingram won but I’d trade the Heisman for another NC any day. (Of course, I can say that since it’s not my Heisman.)

Einstein

August 26th, 2010
4:15 pm

No! And Christian Ponder being on the list is like Bryan Evans being named All American.

Scott

August 26th, 2010
4:22 pm

Pryor and the suckeyes are the biggest do nothing posers in college football. They play in a JOKE of a conference. Boise State is three times the program that OSU is! Pryor has NO shot of winning anything, hell I wouldnt surprised is Michigan comes out of their coma and beats em this year.

Toby Gerhart

August 26th, 2010
4:42 pm

I was robbed

Archie Griffin

August 26th, 2010
4:45 pm

No he won’t. He couldn’t carry my jockstrap

Homer Simpon

August 26th, 2010
4:48 pm

Barnharts a bigger homer than me

jarvis

August 26th, 2010
4:58 pm

Does the Heisman even matter anymore?
Look at the list of bums that have taken home that trophy in the last 20 years.

Chris Weinke, Andre Ware, Gino Toretta, Troy Smith, Eric Crouch, Matt Leinert, Jason White…..

QB’s now win the overwhelming majority of the time, and they don’t deserve it very often.

I for one was glad to see an RB win it last year. Take a look at the 70’s and 80’s. The RB’s are almost all legends. The fascination with the QB’s has to stop before I’ll give this award any creedence again.

thunderbull56

August 26th, 2010
5:43 pm

No ! ‘Bama’s good but not unbeatable.Too many outstanding young atheletes for repeaters nowadays.

Auburn Man

August 26th, 2010
5:44 pm

To me this is the second part of a two part question. The first would be can Bama win another title because for Ingram to win a second Heisman it pretty much will require it to be a Bama title year as well. Had he not won last year or had he won without a Bama title then I would think maybe he could win it without a title year for his team. I think Alabama is the best team in the country today but repeating a title is as we all know is daunting to say the least. Throw in dings, major and minor injuries and it’s quite the gauntlet to see two titles in as many years. As an Auburn man I hate to give them so much credit but I can’t deny their success nor Ingrams talent. I like Ingram, he seems to be a good person in his heart and comes from a good family. To me he fits in with other greats like Bo Jackson and Herschel Walker that make all SEC fans proud to pull for the best conference in the land. Good luck to Ingram… I’ll pull for him until November 26th, all bets are off on that day.

WAR EAGLE!

CBrad

August 26th, 2010
7:23 pm

Just don’t understand the “man crush” so many have on Mallett? Heisman trophy winners are on teams that win championships. Championships in Arkansas are as extinct! Arkansas has no running game, no offensive line to protect Mallett, no defense to get him the ball and no receivers for him to throw to. Even if Mallett is a decent QB how are we going to find out?

ECB

August 26th, 2010
8:27 pm

With everybody talking about Alabama’s lack of experience and Georgia’s ton of experience, I am reminded of the story of the coach who said “the good news is all of my players are back this year. The bad news is all my players are back this year”. Speaking of on team in particular, maybe when you’re 8-5, it’s not necessarily a good thing that all your players are back.

crabapplejoe

August 26th, 2010
8:35 pm

Ingram shouldn’t have won it last year…Toby Gerhart was the better RB and meant more to his team. The only reason Ingram won is was because his father was in jail (feel good story) and ESPN hyping Nebraska’s Suh in the last few weeks which split the Western vote between Gerhart, McCoy and Suh. When was the last time anyone can remember a defensive tackle being hyped for the Heisman? What a joke. It will come down to Christian Ponder and Jake Locker (who Barnhart didn’t even put on the list…what an SEC homer…LOL)