Can Bama’s Ingram win a second Heisman?

 Like DiMaggio’s 56-game hitting streak, with each year that goes by what Archie Griffin did in 1974-75 becomes a more impressive accomplishment. The Ohio State All-American remains the only player in history to win two Heisman Trophies.

There have been a numerous opportunities for repeat Heisman winners over the past 35 years:

**–If Herschel Walker had returned to Georgia for his senior season in 1983, you have to believe he would have won another Heisman.

**–Ditto for Barry Sanders, who won it in 1988 and turned pro early.

**–Oklahoma quarterback Jason White won it as a junior in 2003 but finished behind USC quarterback Matt Leinart and OU running back Adrian Peterson in 2004.

**–Leinart won it in 2004 as a junior when the Trojans won the BCS championship but in 2005 his teammate, Reggie Bush, took home the hardware. Then Bush passed up his senior year and turned pro.

**–We had back-to-back sophomores win in 2007 (Florida’s Tim Tebow) and 2008 (Oklahoma’s Sam Bradford) but neither could repeat. Alabama RB Mark Ingram became the third straight sophomore to win in 2009.

The point is that it’s hard to win back-to-back Heismans. Too many things have to fall into place. So in that vein I’m going to present my top five picks to win the 2010 Heisman Trophy:

1. Ryan Mallett, QB,  Arkansas: No player is more valuable to his team than Mallett is to Arkansas. If he does something special at Georgia on Sept. 18 and against Alabama in Fayetteville on Sept. 25 he could be in the hunt for the rest of the season. He should beat last season’s numbers (3,624, 30 TD) in his second year in Bobby Petrino’s system.

2. Terrelle Pryor, QB,  Ohio State: He gave us a glimpse of what he could be in the Rose Bowl against Oregon. He is good enough to lead the Buckeyes to an undefeated season and that will certainly put him in New York for the Heisman ceremonies. But let’s see what he does against an athletic Miami defense on Sept. 11. Does the coaching staff trust Pryor enough to turn him loose when it gets to be crunch time in the Big Ten race?

3. Mark Ingram,  RB, Alabama: He’ll get a lot of votes after winning it last season. But Ingram will not get as many carries (271 in 2009) in 2010 because of his talented backup, sophomore Trent Richardson, and the fact that Alabama plans to throw it a little more because they trust QB Greg McElroy and WR Julio Jones is finally healthy.

4. Christian Ponder, QB, Florida State: Ponder was playing as well as any quarterback in the country (68.8 percent passing, No. 3 in total offense 321.8 ypg) when he got hurt in the ninth game against Clemson last season. With a veteran offensive line (142 combined career starts) in front of him, Ponder could jump into the mix if he does something special when the Seminoles go to Oklahoma on Sept. 11.

 5. Ricky Dobbs, QB, Navy: Nobody from the service academies has won the award since Navy’s Roger Staubach in 1963. But this kid, a native of Douglasville, is special. Last season he rushed for 1,000 yards and passed for 1,000 yards. He scored 27 rushing touchdowns, which broke the NCAA record for quarterbacks set by  Tebow. And did I mention that he played the last six games on a broken kneecap? And did I mention that he is the Vice-President of the senior class at the academy? I just want this kid to get to the Heisman ceremonies in New York, which will be just a few hours after the Army-Navy game in Philadelphia on Dec. 11.

POSSIBLE BREAKTHROUGHS

Kellen Moore, QB, Boise State:  He’s 26-1 as a starting quarterback and will get a chance to make a statement on Sept. 6 against Virginia Tech. In two seasons he has thrown 64 touchdown passes and only 13 interceptions (39 TD, 3 INT last season).

Case Keenum, QB, Houston: Only the second quarterback in NCAA history with two seasons of 5,000 yards passing or more (Texas Tech’s Graham Harrell is the other). Could become Division I-A’s all-time leading passer with another big season.

Andy Dalton, QB, TCU: A long shot but he was the Mountain West offensive player of the year in 2009. Very underrated player. With 29 career wins, needs just one more to break Sammy Baugh’s record for most victories in school history.

Jacory Harris, QB, Miami: If Harris can cut down on his interceptions (17 last season)  and stays healthy he can be a really special player. Let’s see what he does at Ohio State on Sept. 11.

Noel Devine, RB, West Virginia: Now that C.J. Spiller of Clemson has gone to the NFL, Devine is the most explosive player in college football. He’s small (5-8, 180) but he has incredible speed.

PROGRAMMING NOTES:

  **–Wes Durham and I will host the return of ”The Southern Football Kickoff Show” at 11 a.m. this morning on 790 The Zone. On today’s show we have Eli Gold, the voice of the Alabama Crimson Tide.

**–Our final summertime version of “Talkin’ Football” will be tonight at 6 p.m. on CSS.

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156 comments Add your comment

JB

August 26th, 2010
9:17 am

I think Nesbit at Tech is a great QB ( for the system he’s in. put him in a balanced offense, he may not start) so Heisman, uh no.

dip

August 26th, 2010
9:19 am

Spiller was the best College Football player in the Nation last year – did more – meant more to his team. The Heisman isn’t for the best running back is it? Thought it was for the best player.

rduck

August 26th, 2010
9:20 am

This is why I hate the Heisman Trophy being called the award for the most outstanding college football player. 8 out of 10 on your list are QB’s.. Why not just make it for the best QBin the country or the best offensive back in the country. WR’S, linemen, and Defensive players have little to no shot at the award. The award is a joke and should be treated as such. And just like the BCS, if you are not high on the preseason list, you have little to no shot at winning it. Just get rid of the darn thing…

Who won?

August 26th, 2010
9:30 am

This year there will not be a stand out player in the top 15 so it will go to some obscure player with crazy stats who plays alot of Mac our Mountain conference. Doubt anyone in the top 15 will have a golden year. Most teams will struggle to win all their games and will not dominate in the big games. My answer is most likely none of the above.

Help me understand something

August 26th, 2010
9:32 am

I like Mark Ingram…heck of a running back. But C.J. Spiller was head and shoulders above and college player in the nation last year. I don’t care which team you root for, if didn’t recognize that then you’re blind. I can’t even remember if he was invited to NY for the ceremony.

Tide Rising

August 26th, 2010
9:32 am

Hoss,

Out of the supposed 9 new starters 5 are guys that have started multiple games in their career and were in the regular playing rotation last year. The hero of the Texas game Dareus is projected as the #3 nfl draft pick by one espn analyst Todd McShay and the the #7 pick by the other Mel Kiper. And he wasn’t even a starter last year. What does that tell you?

In terms of experience you simply don’t know what you’re talking about. Every starter on the defense except for true sophomore Dre Kirkpatrick at corner are all 3rd year guys or 4th year jrs or seniors. Dre is the single underclassmen starting on the defense.

Tide Rising

August 26th, 2010
9:36 am

Help me understand something,

Nope. CJ wasn’t even invited. I would agree that he was an expolosive, dynamic player that should have been invited. But to call everyone else blind just because they don’t agree with your particular point of view seems a little arrogant. I guess everyone that thought Ingram or Gerhart of Stanford was the best back are all blind. Come to think of it you must be the only seeing man left in America.

5IML

August 26th, 2010
9:40 am

Hoss,

Please forward the the link to the site that lists Alabama as #100 in experience. I’d like to read their criteria for experience. Is it starts? Is it plays? There will be, at most, three brand new players starting for BAMA’s defense this year.

TWT

August 26th, 2010
9:44 am

Nesbit hands down

JB

August 26th, 2010
9:45 am

One of the biggest problems Bama will have this year( all big time programs do to a degree), but with these last two big time recruiting classes Bama has had, the talent level has separated some of these guys and the Saban “promises” will not be panning out for some of these 4 and 5 star studs with lot’s of high school press clippings. These ARE 17-18 year old kids, and Saban has sold them on being a star and champion at Bama. Been long enough to have some pooched out bottom lips on that side line, Just say’n.

nmk

August 26th, 2010
9:45 am

all that talent” in athens and no mention. overrated coachses starting with “never been out of georgia” bobo

JMac12203

August 26th, 2010
9:47 am

As much as I like Nesbitt, and admire what he has accomplished, Ricky Dobbs is head and shoulders better. If he was Tech’s QB this season, I don’t think anyone would be able to beat the Jackets.

#1 BAMA FAN

August 26th, 2010
9:48 am

The BAMA defense is predicated on athletes, coaching and scheme. They will be good to start the season and great by the end. The offense will be better and will make up the difference early. Experience doesn’t matter just look at some defenses that were not that good last year, chances are they won’t be good this year. I can’t wait to see some of the young talented players. RTR

Christian Dior Dogg

August 26th, 2010
9:52 am

Tony, you are truly a “special” writer! But please try to learn a few new words, mkay?

The General Feeling

August 26th, 2010
9:52 am

Sure (he can win it). He won it last year without being the best college football player. Let’s face it, the Heisman Trophy has become the Miss America pagent of college football. It’s a feel good bleeding heart story wrapped in New Jersey Housewive’s made for TV production.

The Stanford kid should have won last year but he was too white bread hard working multi-accomplished student athlete.

JB

August 26th, 2010
9:54 am

I’m a Dawg fan, but I will say this. Muschamp, Kirby Smart, Mullen and Strong from Florida, have all be pursued or rumor milled to death about being hired away, and some have.
Mike Bobo, At UGA, tutored under a pretty well respected coach and offensive mind and QB developer in Richt………………….Crickets every year………….That ought to tell us something.
Garner is the only guy pursued every year, and that’s for mostly his “recruiting” connections in Georgia……………..I like Mike, but he’ll never get us to the NC game. He’s too scripted based on Field position, down and yardage.

Tide Rising

August 26th, 2010
9:58 am

JB,

Where on earth does that comment come from about Saban’s “promises” ro recruits? You should learn something before you post out of woeful ignorance.

Donta Hightower was one of the most sought after lb recruits in the country coming out of high school. When asked in an interview why he committed to Saban his reply was and I paraphrase “He was the only one that was real with me. He never guaranteed me playing time and told me I would have to come in and earn a position. Everyone else was telling me I could start as a freshman and I wasn’t sure I believed them”.

As a matter of fact JB if you read the comments of several Bama recruits they all by and large say the same thing- that Saban promises early playing time to no one in the recruting process and that they have to earn it. Just because you want to assume he promises them the world doesn’t make it so.

Sounds me to me like you’re just resentful over the fact that Saban had to back to back no. 1 ranked recruiting classes followed up by the no. 4 class this year.

You’re just assuming that its cause he’s telling every recruit they’re gonna be a star. The reality according to the various recruits own words is quite different. You would be better off not posting on subjects you know not a da#n thing about.

Ted M

August 26th, 2010
10:00 am

Anthony Allen will be the surprise candidate who comes close.

JB

August 26th, 2010
10:01 am

You are right Tide….He tells them, ” I promise you nothing, just come to Bama”……….You really think that ? These guys are being sought by EVERY program in the country. You really, really think that? We’ll just have to disagree. I don’t.

Pot Meet Kettle

August 26th, 2010
10:02 am

“You should learn something before you post out of woeful ignorance.”

From the poster who said Bobby Bowden was kicked off the Alabama team.

JB

August 26th, 2010
10:04 am

They are successful………..and pretty defensive over there.

Tomsjeep88

August 26th, 2010
10:05 am

SEC bias. Last year the rhetoric at season’s end was “let’s see what the short list of candidates in this wide-open Heisman race can do in their respective conference championship games.” CJ Spiller goes for 300 yards and 4 touchdowns in the ACCCG and doesn’t even get an invite to NYC. All Tebow does after a mediocre season is get his butt kicked for 3 hours in Atlanta and boo-hoo his way to the locker room, but he gets the invite? Please.

Expect more of the same this season. Just like the reserved BCS Ttile shot for the SEC champ regardless of ranking or record, the Heisman will go to the best skill player on the highest ranked SEC team.

Tide Rising

August 26th, 2010
10:07 am

JB,

So what you’re acknowledging is that its just your opinion based on zero facts. Just wanted to clear that up.

I guess the same thing must happen at UF, Texas, and anywhere else where they’ve had successful recruiting classes.

Come to think of it I guess that since UGA used to have consistent top 5 recruiting classes that you’re acknowledging that Richt used to make all kinds of “promises” to players telling them what stars they are gonna be and how they’re going to play immediately. Right?

Tide Rising

August 26th, 2010
10:10 am

Pot meet Kettle,

There’s a difference in making a mistake based upon something that is written in a book and someone making blanket assumptions based on what he just wants to think happens. If you can’t tell the difference then I can’t help you. And if you got something to say use your real handle rather than hiding behind some new generic handle.

17 of 20

August 26th, 2010
10:11 am

Ingram wins it again.

Hoss

August 26th, 2010
10:11 am

Alabama’s in trouble, just too little experience.

Compare them to Georgia:
Bama: 4 Senior starters
Georgia: 7 Senior starters

Bama: 35% of defensive tackles productivity total return
Georgia: 50% of players of defensive tackles productivity total return

Bama: O-Line games started 46
Georgia: O-Line games started 155

Bama: Ranks 100 in total experience
Georgia: Ranks 39 in total experience

gtgirl

August 26th, 2010
10:11 am

1st of all I love Mark Ingram and the Tide, but I believe the original intent of the award was the player who made the biggest impact on their team (i.e. Joshua Nesbitt, Joe Hamilton, Ricky Dobbs), not lets pick the best player from the best team. Might as well use the AP poll…& pick the best athlete from the Top 5 teams…it will not go to a player on a so-so/non-great team (so I’m X’ing Mallett, Ponder & Dobbs) no matter how great he is!
My List: 1) Julio Jones 2) Terrelle Pryor 3) Mark Ingram 4)Kellen Moore 5)Defensive throw in (even though we know they’re not going to award it to a defensive player

titletownusa1

August 26th, 2010
10:12 am

Greg Reid…..FSU

azcat225

August 26th, 2010
10:13 am

Terrelle Pryor: Million dollar legs, ten dollar arm, ten cent head. Unfortunately, by the halfway point of the season, ESPN will have pushed him to the forefront of most of the voters’ minds.

Go Blue

August 26th, 2010
10:13 am

Tide Rising,
Typical stubborn redneck, get a life.

Tide Rising

August 26th, 2010
10:14 am

Hoss,

In 2009 Bama had to replace 8 new starters on offense. How did that work out?

gtgirl

August 26th, 2010
10:14 am

I believe that Saban really doesn’t promise them playing time (even the best of the best)…but most athletes believe that they will in-fact start…& the appeal of Alabama is more than they can resist…don’t hate!

Yeah

August 26th, 2010
10:15 am

The fact Hershel Walker got stuffed by Penn State in the Sugar Bowl tells me he probably didn’t deserve the one he got. Why am I not surprised Tony listed him on his possible 2nd Heisman list?

The Heisman is garbage anyway. Doesn’t matter if you’re the best player…if your team sucks, you’re not getting anything.

Tide Rising

August 26th, 2010
10:15 am

Go Blue,

Is that all you got? Good luck against Ohio State. You’re gonna need it.

JB

August 26th, 2010
10:15 am

didn’t say any of that, but recruiting is a little deeper than ” hey, I’m Coach Saban and isn’t our campus pretty. If I’m the number 1 or 2 rated LB in the Country, And Bama has 7 letterman coming back at that That position, and Florida has 2, UGA 3 and Auburn 0, and the guy signs with Bama, Sometimes you have wonder. I know you guys think he doesn’t need spray in the bathroom ( except when he was at LSU), But I hear different. Do I know, no, BUT, you don’t either. You hope, and think, but YOU DON’T KNOW !

Hoss

August 26th, 2010
10:21 am

P.S. Florida ranks #111 in total exprience, lost 65% of offensive firepower, 50% of defensive tackles, and O-Line has 50% less game starts of experience as Georgia.

ncaa expert

August 26th, 2010
10:21 am

Whoever the UGA QB is, should be the winner. UGA is going to be undefeated this year and win the SEC and National Championship. Everyone knows they are the best team in the NCAA. I don’t even see any teams scoring against them.

gtgirl

August 26th, 2010
10:23 am

But the big question on everyone’s mind is who will the yearly let’s bow down and worship Herschel be dedicated to???

Past due

August 26th, 2010
10:25 am

Ingram’s win last year was a travesty if you look at the body of his work, which culminated in the regular seaon against Auburn where Auburn’s patchword D held Ingram to 30 yards.

gtgirl

August 26th, 2010
10:25 am

Great Coaching + a Great Game Day QB helps new O-Line starters exceed expectations = Bama ‘09

JB

August 26th, 2010
10:28 am

And Tide….. I can appreciate you passion for your team…..You guys had your problems and your are back on top of the football world. We all rooted for ya’ll in the NC game. Yes, we would all like to be where you are. But college football ( major) is a serious, complicated, backstabbing, big money business, and when everybody see’s Bama loading up these back to back classes, saying that Saban works harder, or cares more, or our Academics are better, or whatever, it raises questions. It may all be fine. Hope it is. Show a little respect on here. It ain’t been that long since ya’ll lived on the other side of the tracks. Hell, we even took advantage of you the last 3 of 4 meetings.

bigdawg

August 26th, 2010
10:31 am

AJ Green for Heisman….

Joshua Nesbitt for the Reggie Ball award…

gtgirl

August 26th, 2010
10:33 am

I always thought UGA should retire the #1 jersey in Reggie Ball’s honor

JB

August 26th, 2010
10:34 am

I heard Reggie was teaching 3rd grade math in Cobb County.

bigdawg

August 26th, 2010
10:34 am

if Mark Ingram wins the Heisman again I would be shocked.

players just dont have back to back seasons like that anymore, particularly at the RB position.

Even Tebow couldnt accomplish two Heisman’s.

I would consider Trent Richardson more than Ingram.

my favorite for the award is probably Kellen Moore

gtgirl

August 26th, 2010
10:35 am

I wouldn’t exactly call the ‘07 UGA/Bama game taking advantage of…win in OT…great game…heartbreaker at the end…

bigdawg

August 26th, 2010
10:35 am

@JB

I heard he also cleans the school toilets after school to pick up extra cash

Tide Rising

August 26th, 2010
10:36 am

JB,

All I’m saying is that if you don’t know you shouldn’t be making sweeping statements and assumptions about someone else’s program just because they’re racking it up in recruiting.

Florida had the same recruiting bonanza coming off its 08 national title- all the positive publicity and momentum carried over and they landed a monster 09 class.But you won’t hear us Bama fans saying its all because Urban is making all kinds of promises to recruits.

Kb

August 26th, 2010
10:36 am

Tokyo Jacket,

You think Nesbitt will have 2500 yards passing this year?

JB

August 26th, 2010
10:36 am

Agreed Tide……..good luck this year.