Bobby Bowden celebrates new book, new life

Bobby Bowden always had a sure-fire line whenever somebody asked when he would retire from coaching:

“After you retire there is only one big event left. And I ain’t ready for that.”

The line always got a big laugh. But underneath Bowden’s dadgummit humor was a note of seriousness that he rarely discussed in public. Bear Bryant, who Bowden so admired, coached his last football game  on Dec. 29, 1982.  Just 28 days later Bryant was dead.

“Of course you think about it,” Bowden once told me in the privacy of his office at Florida State. “How can you NOT think about it.”

But Bobby Bowden, who turns 81 on Nov. 8, wants you to know that he is doing just fine despite the fact that for the first time in 57 years he will not be coaching football in 2010. That doesn’t mean he isn’t busy. He’s already been to Israel for 10 days. He has two speaking engagements lined up in Hawaii. He’ll be going on a long Carribean Cruise “and all I have to do is speak for about 45 minutes and I’m good.”

And the most important thing Bowden wants you to know that his greatest fear about leaving coaching–even surpassing the fears of his own mortality–has not come true.

“I thought that once I quit coaching nobody would be interested in what I had to say,” said Bowden when we talked by phone on Saturday. “As it turns out, they still want to listen.”

Bowden’s schedule is about to get even more hectic. For today his new book “Called to Coach: Reflections on Life, Faith, and Football” hits the bookshelves around the country. Bowden will do a media blitz in New York on Tuesday to launch the book which was written with ESPN.com’s (and former AJC staffer) Mark Schlabach. Then it’s on to ESPN in Bristol, Conn.,  for a full day of interviews across their family of networks on Thursday.

The book, which includes forewords by Tony Dungy and Joe Paterno, offers keen insights into Bowden’s career and what made him so successful. Among the things Bowden did for the book was give Schlabach access to a folder that included more than 30 years of pre-game speeches.

“Mark dug in there and found a lot of things that still mean a lot to me,” said Bowden. “He did a heckuva job on the book and we’re very proud of it.”

One thing Bowden does not do in the book is vent against those who ultimately forced him out at Florida State. But he does explain his side of the story.  Yes, Bowden was told that he was going to get one more year at Florida State. He had been told that he would be allowed to determine his exit strategy. That did not happen. FSU President T.K. Wetherell, who played for Bowden, pushed the coach out the door before he was ready. Bowden is not bitter but he still believes that he had earned the right to leave on his own terms. An academic cheating scandal, after which the NCAA vacated 14 of Bowden’s victories, was the most disappointing blow of all, he said.

“I wasn’t ready to go out. I wanted to keep the battle going with Joe Paterno (for most career wins),” Bowden said. “But once the NCAA took those (14) wins away, it was over. But I’m not looking back. I don’t coach football any more but I haven’t retired. I want to stay busy.”

That won’t be a problem. The requests for Bowden to speak reach well into next year. On Sept. 3 he will do a book signing in Tallahassee. Then he’ll retreat to his second home in Panama City to spend the first weekend of the season. You probably won’t see him at Doak Campbell Stadium this season as Jimbo Fisher takes over as head coach after two seasons as the “coach in waiting.”

“I always said that once I got through coaching I was leaving,” said Bowden. “That wouldn’t be fair to the boys and it wouldn’t be fair to Jimbo. They don’t need to see old Bobby sitting over there.”

Alabama athletics director Mal Moore has invited Bowden to Tuscaloosa for the Sept. 11 game with Penn State.  As a boy growing up in Birmingham, there are a lot of good memories at Bryant-Denny Stadium. It would also be kind of fun to watch his old friend Joe Paterno walking up and down the sideline, he said.

“When I was a kid my dad used to take me to Tuscaloosa to watch the games,” Bowden said. “I think the last time I was there just watching as a fan was 1948 when I was a senior in high school and they were recruiting me. I always wanted to go back. And now I can.”

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160 comments Add your comment

Mike

August 24th, 2010
7:51 am

This is what happens to coaches and players who don’t know when it’s time to leave. It never ends pretty for anyone.

how2fish

August 24th, 2010
8:05 am

I have never been a FSU fan I was always a Bobby Bowden fan. Best of luck Coach !

#1 BAMA FAN

August 24th, 2010
8:06 am

Bobby will be welcome at Bryant Denny. He will not see Joe Pa’s lead in games increase on Sept.11 because the TIDE is going to beat the brakes off of PSU.RTR

Beast from the East

August 24th, 2010
8:08 am

From a Gator’s point of view, I was disappointed but understood FSU’s handling of his retirement. I felt he had earned the right to go out on his own terms. I do understand the administration’s decision to make that tough call due to the academic scandal and the recent results on the field. It’s a shame. Bowden changed college football. His run at FSU during the late 80’s and early 90’s will most likely never be duplicated. I feel like he was partly responsible for UF’s success. They couldn’t just sit around and watch “that other school” pass them by on the football field and went out and hired Spurrier. Those UF-FSU and UM-FSU games were some of the hardest hitting games I’ve ever seen. Sure, he made some mistakes along the way with some discipline issues and his decision not to join the SEC, but he’ll always be remembered as one of the best to ever walk a sideline.
Good luck on your retirement, Coach Bowden!

Dink

August 24th, 2010
8:09 am

Won’t be the same without seeing Coach Bowden on the sidelines. It would be great to see him as a studio analyst this fall. Best of luck to Coach Bowden.

Go Dawgs!

Jeff

August 24th, 2010
8:11 am

Agreed Mike. You can trash FSU (I’m a UGA fan) all you want but it wasn’t a couple year thing which would’ve been understandable. No it was almost an entire decade that Bowden put himself above the program that he built and took it “half back” as they say in the Carolinas about retirees moving back up from FL. It was tragic.

naganole

August 24th, 2010
8:19 am

Bobby Bowden is doing his best job to become vilified at FSU. He needs to look in the mirror to see the real problem.

how2fish

August 24th, 2010
8:34 am

Beast from the East good points I think he made the entire ACC better as well.

5IML

August 24th, 2010
8:37 am

Where would BAMA be if it had hired Bobby in the 80’s? We’d have a couple of more national championships but, ultimately, would have ended up on probation (like we did anyway).

I wonder if Bobby will wear BAMA gear to the game. I’m sure he has some at home.

Gatorbait 17-3

August 24th, 2010
8:40 am

Bobby Bowden is the best—a class act.

Best wishes to this fine gentleman

RxDawg

August 24th, 2010
8:43 am

It’s hard not to like Bobby Bowden. Truly one of the greatest.

how2fish

August 24th, 2010
8:43 am

5IML I for one am pretty sure if he had gone to Bama he would have the most wins record by now.

Alphare

August 24th, 2010
8:46 am

“he still believes that he had earned the right to leave on his own terms”.

In these days and age, I cannot believe there are people out there who believe they can leave on their own terms.

I have a lot of respect for Bobby. But you have to realize, if somebody leaves on his own term, that means somebody else will leave on bad terms. The FSU pie is only so big, if one person take too big a piece, others will get smaller shares. If FSU is not performing, the pie will get smaller, and if that one person still wants a bigger share, many other won’t even get a taste of it.

I hope Booby nothing but the best in his retirement.

RxDawg

August 24th, 2010
8:47 am

5IML, Not sure if you can say that. Bowden went to FSU and turned down an invitation to join the SEC and compete. Instead he went to the ACC and dominated. I’m not saying he wasn’t a great coach, but he did step into a better situation as far as his competetion went. If he coached at Bama, his W’s wouldn’t of come as easy and Bama fans might of ran him off cutting his career short. There are too many variables to say Bowden would of been a legend at Bama. The “buterfly effect” thing.

RxDawg

August 24th, 2010
8:49 am

Great post Beast

Kell

August 24th, 2010
8:50 am

Bowden was a classy man. Had a big impact on Coach Richt, spiritually and professionally. Best move Bowden ever made was hiring Mark Richt.

JJ's Place

August 24th, 2010
8:52 am

What a run FSU had when Coach Richt was on staff, 1986-2000, 13 top 5 finishes, 5 National Championship games, 2 National Championships, pretty amazing.

Russ

August 24th, 2010
8:53 am

Coach Bowden went to high school and college with my father and I had the chance to meet him a couple of times and he was always a class act. He came out of the locker room after a loss to Auburn to sign my program and ask about my father and on another occassion he signed a picture in his office for a rabid FSU friend from Pensacola. He will be missed by all college fans! Go Dawgs.

T3

August 24th, 2010
8:54 am

Whether after a Win or Loss, no one ever gave a more
entertaining press conference than BB.

However, F$U broke LOTS of NCAA rules. LOTS.

The F$U admin and BB both did the program in injustice by not contractorily specifying his date of employment, in advance.

They just kept kicking the can down the road, until they came to the end of the road. BB’s departure coulda and shoulda been handled much better than it was. BB had equal responsibility on how poorly it was handled.

College Football wont be the same without a regular BB press conference. Dadgumit.

However, what would REALLY be entertaining would be to see a
“Dean Martin Celebrity Roast” type of engagement where you would have a collection of old coaches and others get together to roast BB, or even JoePa.

It would be fitting and memroable tribute
to the “old -guard” generation of college football.

DawginLex

August 24th, 2010
8:56 am

The story of the missing chair in the locker room that Coach Richt tells is an example of the influence that Coach Bowden had on his life. He helped Coach Richt find the Lord and his life changed forever.

Coach Bowden is a winner whether he is coaching or not.

Dawg

August 24th, 2010
8:56 am

5IML, Bama would have ran Bobby off at the first sign that he was slipping. Who do you think you’re fooling?

MGS - FSU

August 24th, 2010
8:56 am

We will always love you Bobby! Go Noles!

Beast from the East

August 24th, 2010
8:58 am

T3,
I agree with your comment about neither side setting a firm retirement date. It would have been a win-win for both sides to come to terms beforehand. Short term, it created a lot of hard feelings from both sides of the fence. Long term, he’ll be remembered as one of the all-time greatest.

Sebastian the IBIS

August 24th, 2010
9:00 am

Wide right…….

Mikey in SAV

August 24th, 2010
9:03 am

I’d love to see him in the studio as a replacement for Lou Holtz.

5IML

August 24th, 2010
9:05 am

Rx and Dawg,

Bowden would have won a couple of NC’s for BAMA in the 80’s/early 90’s. BAMA fans would not have had the opportunity to run Bobby off. The NCAA would have given BAMA the death penalty for the things that occured during his tenure.

5IML

August 24th, 2010
9:12 am

PROGRAMMING NOTE: “Nick Saban: Gamechanger” premieres tonight at the Summit. (I’m sure there are BAMA fans already camped out at the theater.) This documentary promises to have something for everyone. For the haters, there is footage of the LaMo loss. For the fans, there is locker room footage including Saban’s BCSCG halftime speech.

ATLn0le

August 24th, 2010
9:24 am

Bobby will be missed, but it was time for him to leave -probably five or six years ago. The transformation our program has undergone in the past 7 months gives creedence to the fact that Bowden’s style of coaching was no longer working in the new era of CF. When asked if Jimbo would utilize Bowden’s practice tower, he said “How am I going to coach if I’m way the hell up there. I’ve got to be on the field with the players.” Our program has already made huge strides this offseason. Considering we never had a defensive playbook and players were required to just go out there and be athletic, this no longer works! I think you’ll see even more strides in the program and it will all eventually translate into wins. 2012 NCAA CHAMPS! EJ’s senior year!

Simple Simon

August 24th, 2010
9:28 am

Bowden trained Mark Richt, and Coahc Richt has done an amazing job in his first 9 yars.

Let’s compare Saban’s 1st 9 years as a head coach to Richt’s 1st 9 years as a Head Coach.

Win %
Saban .638
Richt .769

Top 10 Finishes
Saban 1
Richt 6

Top 3 Finishes
Saban 0
Richt 2

Bowden was a great mentor.

Kaliber411

August 24th, 2010
9:29 am

Beast- Thank you for your respectful comments. Florida has itself become a beast these days and it’s hard to watch Florida State play them. I miss the days where I felt that game decided the National Championship. Regardless, thank you for appreciating the legacy of bowden even though he coached the other Florida team. Best of luck next season and here’s to atleast a close game this year.

Simple Simon

August 24th, 2010
9:30 am

To really see Bowden’s impact on Mark Richt, look at how Richt compares to Bear Bryant.

Richt’s 1st 9 years vs. Bear Bryant’s 1st 9 Years:

Win %:
Bear- .690
Richt- .769

Top 10 Finishes
Bear- 1
Richt- 6

Top 3 Finishes
Bear- 1
Richt- 2

National Championships
Bear- 1
Richt-0

Bowden did a great job with Coach Richt, Georgia fans should be very grateful.

cuttysark

August 24th, 2010
9:37 am

If Bobby Bowden had a kicker in those Miami games his run of national championships would have made him even more of a legend. Sad to see him go and they way it was handled by the FSU administration and Board of Trustees. A great coach.

Sri

August 24th, 2010
9:41 am

I’m genuinely impressed by the even handed, generally reasoned comments on this article and the bowden situation. Not much of that ignornant “he shoulda stayed as long as he wanted” opinions that disregard the time he was afforded after it became evident that he lacked the ability to successfully lead an elite program. Kudos to you guys, especially beast from the east. Well said.

5IML

August 24th, 2010
9:41 am

Simple (Patrick, Q Dog, etc.),

How, in your mind, does an article about Bobby Bowden lead to a comparison between Richt and Saban and Bryant?

Obsession is an ugly thing.

Past due

August 24th, 2010
9:43 am

Free Shoes University
Criminoles

Bobby, we’ll miss you.

TLH Gator

August 24th, 2010
9:43 am

All who believe Bobby was “done wrong” by FSU should remember that despite statements about wanting “one more year” and talk of an exit strategy, Bobby never stated on the record that 2010 would be his last year. He was unwilling to give up coaching due to an irrational fear of death once he left the job and his pursuit of the all-time win record. Ask yourself, where in those two priorities is FSU and what is best for the program? Hey, I’m an Urban Meyer fan, despite his issues, but the UF program comes first for me. No coach should be above the well being and competitiveness of a program. Get over your personal feelings for an old coach.

Simple Simon

August 24th, 2010
9:46 am

Bowden’s proud of the legacy he’s carrying on through the coaches he mentored. Since Bowden’s golden years were all spent with Mark Richt, nothing says more about how great of a mentor Bowden was, than seeing how much better Richt has been than Saban & Bear Bryant in his first 9 years.

P.S. How does an article about Bobby Bowden lead you to make a programming note about Nick Saban’s documentary? That’s trolling, as usual, you’re off topic and irrelvant.

PTC DAWG

August 24th, 2010
9:50 am

Bobby should have retired 10 years ago. He had a great staff, and they started getting head coaching jobs elsewhere. He would have been legendary…stop down while on top IF you can.

Best of Luck to him.

Fleischman in Chattanooga

August 24th, 2010
9:52 am

Simple Simon, how many NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIPS has Saint Mark won at Ugag?

sleeze

August 24th, 2010
9:56 am

Bobby had some great coaches to work under him, except for the ones whose last name was also Bowden.

Red Panties

August 24th, 2010
9:58 am

Hey Tony,

Where are the dawgs on this list???????????

NCAA Report on FBS schools making money

The Associated Press
Published: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 at 6:01 a.m.

COLUMBIA, Mo. — While college sports are among the sagging economy’s latest victims, things are not as bad at the University of Florida.

A newly released NCAA report shows that just 14 of the 120 Football Bowl Subdivision schools made money from campus athletics in the 2009 fiscal year, down from 25 the year before

The NCAA doesn’t release individual schools’ revenues and expenses. But Fulks confirmed Florida, Alabama, Ohio State, Texas and Tennessee are among the select group that made money from athletics. So is Missouri, which reported generating $2 million in profits from campus athletics in 2009

Bob

August 24th, 2010
10:00 am

Bobby Bowden is a class act, a great man of faith….oh, and a “heckuva” coach.

Otto

August 24th, 2010
10:03 am

Hate to see Bobby go and it will be hard to cheer for FSU without him. I grew up with family in Tallahassee and wanted them to do well.

For all those that said Bobby should have left a few years ago, the same thing was said about Paterno and he has had some very good seasons lately. Who is to say Bobby could not have assembled another great staff if he stayed and did not have a coach in waiting? Paterno seems to have another very good staff.

I hope Bobby enjoys his retirement and has a long enjoyable life outside of coaching, making the past year a blessing in disguise.

Simple Simon

August 24th, 2010
10:08 am

Flieshman,

Thanks for asking. Richt’s had 7 National Championship season, 5 at FSU, and 2 at Georgia, the 2 at Georgia were in 2002 & 2007.

5IML

August 24th, 2010
10:14 am

(I’m not sure why I’m taking the time to do this. Where is Tide Rising?)

Simple,

The article is about Bowden and BAMA and BAMA’s game against Penn State. Saban is BAMA’s coach and will coach that game. I’m still unclear how you interjected Richt. And, if comparing Richt and Saban isn’t silly (and repetitive) enough, you compare Richt and Bryant. You seem to obsessed with BAMA, not just Saban.

It was time

August 24th, 2010
10:26 am

When Bobby was at the top of his game (up until 2000), he always said that if he started losing 4-5 games a year he would walk away from the game. He did not keep his word and was shown the door. Being beat like a drum six times in a row by your in-state rival doesn’t help matters either.

Joe Pa promoted his son to offensive coordinator as well, once he saw that he was in over his head, he demoted him down to QB Coach. Bobby would never do this to Jeff and only after a 30-0 home loss to Wake Forest, his unqualified son was given a very nice severence package to hit the road. Would Jeff have been promoted to Offensive Coordinator to replace Mark Richt had his name not been Bowden? Could Jeff even landed an interview for OC at any other Div. I school the year Mark left for UGA? Jeff was the WR Coach at FSU only because his Dad was the Coach. Bobby threw a fit when he hit resistance from the FSU to promote his unqualifed son. That was Bobby’s call and it was the beginning of his end at FSU. Had Bobby been given the 2010 season, Chuck Amato would have been the DC, Jody Allen would still be around as well as Dexter Carter. Before Jimbo was hired as OC, Bobby wanted Mickey Andrews to take his place.

The final straw was the comments of Ann Bowden, basically saying that FSU did not have the guts to fire her husband and the FSU needed them a whole lot more than they needed FSU. Bobby would have never walked away from FSU and the folks from UF and Miami would have loved to have seen Bobby coach another 20+ years in Tallahassee. Jimbo Fisher is the next Nick Saben, like it or not. It is very sad to see Bobby turn into a bitter old man, but he will always be one of the best that ever walked a college sideline.

Simple Simon

August 24th, 2010
10:28 am

5IML,

Why are you writing posts about Saban’s doumentary that have no link to Boweden or this article? Talk about trolling.

#2 BAMA FAN

August 24th, 2010
10:37 am

Alabama had a chance to hire Bobby Bowden after Ray Perkins left in 86 and instead Bill Curry became the head coach A BIG MISTAKE!! RTR

Jones

August 24th, 2010
10:38 am

You have to ignore posters like Tide Rising & 5IML, they think every article is about Nick Saban somehow. They post away from the topic as much as possible. Could be the same person.

I’ll check out the book. Bobby Bowden’s impact on college football is enormous. FSU really brought attention to the ACC under his leadership.

producewiz

August 24th, 2010
10:44 am

it’s a young man’s game, that’s just the way it is. You can hear it in Jo Pa’s voice, and kids have a hard time believing 78 or 79 year old coaches are going to be there their whole career.Look at the recruiting Jimbo has started.Gators and FSU will get nasty again

Simple Simon

August 24th, 2010
10:44 am

The rivalry was between Bowden & Paterno, had nothing to do with Saban, have no idea why folks are posting about Nick Saban, who never coached with Bowden like Richt did for so many years.

Jake

August 24th, 2010
10:46 am

Bobby put FSU on the College Football Map. Before his arrival, most in the College Football world did not know who FSU was or where it was even located. It was a wise move by FSU to bring him there. Not sure without him being there all these years FSU would be where they are today. He went out and was not afraid to play traditional winning teams. I listened to him speak at Callaway Gardens one night. One thing about Bobby, the guy can do some talking and he’s full of energy. No wonder kids wanted to play for him.
I wish him and his family the best. His record at FSU speaks for itself.

Gerald

August 24th, 2010
10:51 am

I don’t think too many Georgia fans that will support Mark Schlabach. He’s not been a vocal suppporter of Georgia over at ESPN, in fact, he doesn’t think the team will even win the SEC East this year, doesn’t even have Georgia ranked in the top 10 pre-seaosn in his own poll. I don’t think that will help Mark’s book sales among Georgia fans.

I buy books, like most Georgia fans, from supporters of Georgia, not from critics.

I’ll wait until the book comes out at the library, I personally won’t be supporting a Georgia critic.

#2 BAMA FAN

August 24th, 2010
10:51 am

Folks we all love Nick Saban for now (never know about how long he stays at places) but he will never
replace BEAR BRYANT!!! RTR

help, I live in Ga

August 24th, 2010
10:54 am

Great man. Great coach. I’ll buy the book. It would have been better if he didn’t address his departure. As the years go by, that won’t be as important. Things I’ll remember:

Punt-ruskie.
Wide Right
Wide Right

Great relationships with the likes of Joe Pa (who should retire) and Lou Holtz.

He was a man who wasn’t afraid to speak his mind. Not too many of those left.

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August 24th, 2010
10:55 am

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Fleischman in Chattanooga

August 24th, 2010
10:56 am

Simple Simon, Can Richt win a National Championship on his own or does he have to be a lackey for someone else?

Fleischman in Chattanooga

August 24th, 2010
10:57 am

Simple Simon, When people ask about those FSU teams of the 90’s you will be the only one saying that Richt was the brains behind the operation.

Otto

August 24th, 2010
10:58 am

Gerald, As a UGA fan Mark Schlabach is most likely correct, no top 10 finish or SEC East title this year.

Tom Tom

August 24th, 2010
10:58 am

Mark Schlabach’s a Florida fan, he raved and swaggered about how Florida will walk right into the National Championship last season. Of course, he didn’t anticipate Alabama blowing out Florida in the SEC Championship. Mark’s big on Florida again this year, and down on Georgia again for the second year in a row.

Here’s his article from last year raving about Florida:
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/preview09/columns/story?
columnist=schlabach_mark&id=4413467

The Man That Made Roswell Ed Famous

August 24th, 2010
11:00 am

Do you get a FREE PAIR OF SHOES with each book bought? WDE!!

Fleischman in Chattanooga

August 24th, 2010
11:00 am

Also Simple its news to Uga that they won two national championships. If your going to throw out statistics please be correct. Also I am curious to where the other 3 National Championships at FSU? What year were those in?

Shug

August 24th, 2010
11:05 am

The dude hung on 10 years too long, and FSU has suffered for it. Come to think of it, now that he has the time, Bobby can study up and get him one of those famous FSU criminal justice degrees just like his players.

North Avenue Ned

August 24th, 2010
11:06 am

Mike, you’re an idiot.

Ray

August 24th, 2010
11:09 am

I hope Georgia fans will boycott all ESPN writers, until they start saying some fair & good things about Georgia and Richt. Mark Schlabach, Herbstreet, James, Jesse, Holtz, can all mock Georgia if they want, they’re perogative, but when they go to hawk their book(s), we don’t have to buy them.

Mark "Crimson Crier" Ingram

August 24th, 2010
11:09 am

Simple Simon – Please define “National Championship season”. Is that the same thing as “Pre-season BCS National Champions”? I know Corch Richt helped coach and won some NCs at FSU and there’s trophies at FSU to prove it, but where does the UGA 2002 and 2007 “National Championship Season” trophies reside?

William

August 24th, 2010
11:11 am

DawginLex

August 24th, 2010
11:16 am

Herbstreit actually has UGA as his darkhorse to win the SEC.

1 More Time

August 24th, 2010
11:25 am

Seth Emerson wrote about how a couple of ESPN writers (Herbstreit & James) snubbed Georgia, and didn’t pick Georgia in the top 25 in their top 25 pre-season poll:
http://dawg-extra.blogspot.com/2010/08/dissecting-ap-poll.html

17 of 20

August 24th, 2010
11:25 am

Georgia has one and only one National Championship.

Strange Tails

August 24th, 2010
11:34 am

There’s a bunch of books already written about Bowden, don’t think there’s anything left to say. Best book of all of them, if you only get one, is The Bowden Way.

GStateBen

August 24th, 2010
11:36 am

Tony,

Bobby’s not bitter? Have you read the Sporting News article when he blasts TK Weatherell and says that he wasn’t told about Jimbo’s $5 million option after the 2011 season?

He is single handedly for hiring incompetent coaches (Dexter Carter, Jody Allen, Chuck Amato, Jeff Bowden, etc.) and having them continue to bring down a program. Read some of the defensive player’s comments from the spring and so far through Fall camp. They didn’t even have a playbook last season! This isn’t pee wee football, he allowed this to happen.

For all that he did for FSU, he did damage by bringing the program back down. Most don’t understand that he has serious financial problems after failed real estate investments. Do not be suprised if this is the last book because all he and Ann had to do was be quiet and they would be given $2 million annually.

I am a Florida State fan and have been since I was young (my first game was in 1993) but the more you realize about Bobby is that we are in much better hands right now with Jimbo than the previous 10 years under Bowden.

GeorgiaBoy

August 24th, 2010
11:40 am

“I wanted to keep the battle going with Joe Paterno . . .”

EXACTLY.
Ego before program.
He needed to go.

WonderDawg

August 24th, 2010
11:45 am

That’s right. 12-0-0. Undisputed and unanimous. We didn’t back into it by beating a team with the same final record, who beat us a few weeks before. Or have to have a TV program on ESPN lobbying to get in the big game, like Urban did.

UF played great in their last two title games, but got lucky to get in. The Gators were no better in those seasons than UGA was in ‘02, ‘05, and ‘07. UF got in the big game, UGA didn’t.

17 of 20

August 24th, 2010
11:46 am

We’ve never had a perfect season.

I am not going to be the head coach at Alabama. I am the head coach of the Miami Dolphins.

August 24th, 2010
12:03 pm

A class act indeed. You can argue about some of his weak disciplinary actions over the years, but a true class act.

AJC is pathetic

August 24th, 2010
12:05 pm

“As a boy growing up in Birmingham, there are a lot of good memories at Bryant-Denny Stadium.”

Someone please provide the AJC “writers” with a remedial course in grammar.

No wonder this rag is going out of business.

BG

August 24th, 2010
12:10 pm

Bobby Bowden is a great man and a class act. I will miss seeing him on the field this year.

Tide Rising

August 24th, 2010
12:11 pm

5IML,

Yep. He’s back. Patrick Sulley must be posing as simple simon today. But at least he’s sticking to one handle. Yesterday he had 7 different handles all have conversations and agreeing with each other and all having the same diction, subject matter, and grammatical structure.

Beast of the East had a good point on this guy. Said his mentality and his obsession with Richt and Saban is that of a stalker. I think his mind confuses Richt with Jesus Christ and Saban with Satan.

Tony could come up with an article on the Oregon-Oregon State rivalry and this stalker dude would turn it into a Richt is God and Saban is the devil rant. This guy has some serious psychological issues. Its these kinda guys that people like Richt or Saban gotta watch out for. And no. I’m not joking.

Fast Eddie

August 24th, 2010
12:21 pm

Simple Simon, no handle was ever more appropriate than yours. Get your head out of Richt’s butt. I think he’s a very good coach but not a great coach………….yet. He is a fine Christian gentleman and I would love for my grandsons to emulate him as a person but he is NOT a great football coach yet.

Still@theBAR

August 24th, 2010
12:22 pm

I hate to think Bobby B will be like many old football coaches and die a few months after he leaves the game. I hope he is fulfilled in his life after being a coach. Enjoy retirement Bobby.

Tide Rising

August 24th, 2010
12:23 pm

GstateBen.

I’m not sure I would call Chuck Amato and Jeff Bowden incompetent. Bowden guided Southern Miss to a lot of good years over a long period of time- I’m guessing something like 12-15 straight winning seasons. Amato was with Bowden during the great years of the 14 year run of top 5 finishes. You may very well be right about the other coaches though. Now if the defensive players didn’t even have a playbook then I would certainly agree that that would be disturbing and one would indeed have to wonder what the hell is going on. Wayyy too much talent at FSU for their defense to have sunk to such lows- poor coaching would have to be the most obvious reason why.

Also, Bowden did get slaughtered in that weird investment scam orchestrated by his son and of all things a former bama backup qb- Brian Burgdorf. I think most of us forgot about that but I would assume he still had a significant net worth even after losing 2 million. I could be wrong though and you do make some very good points.

In any event I can certainly see your point of view and that of other FSU fans who believe he should have stepped down before so much damage was done. Its a tough call to run him off or let him go on his own terms. At Bama we’re much more efficient at running someone off.

WonderDawg

August 24th, 2010
12:32 pm

Exactly right, Fast Eddie. He’s got to win the big one to be considered “great.” Otherwise, he will go down a a good coach who had some great, but underachieving teams.

As I wrote at 11:45, some of Richt’s teams were a bit unlucky, but if the ‘02 and ‘05 UGA teams had taken care of business vs UF, they would have been in the big game. If the ‘07 team hadn’t lost to either inferior SC or UT teams, they would have gotten in.

But, if you do like Saban, and keep a talented team focused enough to win every game, you deserve to be called a great coach.

quit whining wonderdog

August 24th, 2010
12:33 pm

UGA would have got in in 2007 but didn’t win the SEC East idiot! Richt learned his disciplinary philosophy from the foot of the master.

quit whining wonderdog

August 24th, 2010
12:36 pm

Tide rising, Jeff Bower was the coach at Southern Miss not Jeff Bowden dumbass. What do you expect from someone from alabama; couldn’t even get Mississippi correct on your tickets!!

Dog Fan

August 24th, 2010
12:43 pm

You guys ever notice how many times Tide rising brings up Patrick Sulley–could they be the same person?

What Richt Learned....

August 24th, 2010
12:45 pm

Bowden taught Richt the most important lesson. Recruit low character players and hide behind religion when things go bad.

Tide Rising

August 24th, 2010
12:46 pm

quit whining wonderdog,

Congrats. You caught me there reading too fast. We can’t all be perfect like yourself sir.

Simple Simon

August 24th, 2010
12:47 pm

Nick Saban didn’t do squat his first 9 seasons, didn’t win the big one either, I guess Saban’s not a good coach either, huh? Makes a lot of sense. Pulleeze.

Look, when you win more games and have 6 times more top 10 finishes than Bear Bryant did in his 1st 9 seasons, Richt’s doing ok.

Some of these posters have an odd Saban fixation.

Tide Rising

August 24th, 2010
12:49 pm

Dog fan,

You’re probably just another in a long line of aliases for Sulley- like simple simon. Myself and others bring it up because this troll constantly posts the same drivel over and over and over.

76-Dawg

August 24th, 2010
12:50 pm

If the movie was accurate in “WE ARE MARSHALL” what Bowden did to help the Marshall program was the classiest think I have ever seen in any sports.Bobby Bowden was a great coach and will always be ranked in the top 10 college football coaches. I think that FSU would have been willing to give Bowden this year as coach if the cheating sandal had not taken away 14 victory’s. Once that happened, FSU had a right to renege on the agreement. If the cheating scandal had not happened and Bowden had won 2 more games than Paterno in 2010 then it would have been one more year and then one more again ,when everybody knows that each team is really being coached by the assistant coaches because the head coaches can’t keep up with the speed any longer. Last year Bowden ,as with Paterno, looked confused and unable to keep up with the speed of the football games especially when it was a close at the end of a game. Bowden should have swallowed his PRIDE and taken FSU up on the offer to coach this year symbolically from the press box and said goodbye but his PRIDE would not allow it. I feel sorry for FSU having to take such an unpopular action. Nobody at FSU wanted Bowden to go out like this but 10 years ago their wouldn’t have been a cheating scandal either. As head coach you have to keep track of everything that affects your team and Bowden could no longer do that.

Tide Rising

August 24th, 2010
12:51 pm

Simple Simon,

You’re exactly right. Saban didn’t do crap his first 9 seasons. I can’t believe he didn’t win a national championship at Toledo or at Michigan State. But at least at Mich state he brought them their 2nd 10 win season in their unstoried history. I’m certain Richt would have won a national title at Toledo.

Hans

August 24th, 2010
12:52 pm

Patrick Sulley/Tide Rising/WonderDawg/Fast Eddie/5IML (Could they all be the same guy?)

Raving about Nick Saban. Bashing Mark Richt and Richt supporters.

Look, Bowden made a difference for Coach Richt, they worked together for over a decade. Richt wrote a nice word for the book in the book.

Fred

August 24th, 2010
12:53 pm

Bobby made me a fan of his years ago. He had just lost to Louisville (in the worst rain I have ever seen a game played in) ending any hopes of a Nat’l Championship and he made the following comment:

I told you a couple of weeks ago these things sort themselves out {multiple 1 loss teams and no undefeated teams that season}, well tonight we just sorted ourselves out.”

It was a classy comment after a tough loss. He had many others through the years, but for some reason after that one I became a fan of his. I STILL loved to hate FSU though………….

Gary

August 24th, 2010
1:01 pm

You don’t hear the Richt haters talking about Saban’s lack of National Championships his 1st 9 seasons as the litmus test. If you compare them head to head, 1st 9 seasons, Richt wins.

5IML

August 24th, 2010
1:05 pm

Hans,

I know you’re just flaming but, I don’t recall bashing Richt or his supporters. Can you cite the instance?

Also, stating that Saban’s documentary premieres tonight does not seem like raving to me.

5IML

August 24th, 2010
1:08 pm

Gary,

Remove the year Saban spent at Toledo (because Toledo cannot win the NC) and recalculate your figures. Or better yet, compare Saban’s last 9 seasons to Richt’s last 9.

5IML

August 24th, 2010
1:14 pm

Or be more concerned with Richt and your program than Saban and ours. What’s with the obsession? I get it. You love Richt so much. Great. What does that have to do with Saban?

Why do we have to do this (seemingly) every day?

Tide Rising

August 24th, 2010
1:23 pm

5IML,

simple simon just morphed into Dog fan, Hans, and Gary. Same points, same diction, etc. Most people are smart enough to know that Saban’s first 9 seasons at places like Toledo and MSU is not comparable to coaching at a place like Georgia. So when you see 2 or 3 different handles all agreeing on one absurd point you know its one of Patrick’s various aliases.

LHardingDawg

August 24th, 2010
1:25 pm

As a South Georgia man, I have watched and enjoyed Bobby and FSU for many years. He would play anybody, anywhere. I’ll never forget the time he took his team to Michigan and beat the great Michigan football machine in front of 108,000 people. Needless to say, they never scheduled FSU again.

WonderDawg

August 24th, 2010
1:25 pm

Gotta love little punks calling folks “idiots” on a blog . . .

Tide Rising

August 24th, 2010
1:28 pm

5IML,

A fair comparison would be comparing apples with apples and oranges with oranges. Compare Saban’s stint in 8 years at 2 SEC schools vs Richt’s 9 years at an SEC school and you get a more realistic comparison of the 2. Same size stadiums, same fertile recruiting grounds, same alumni support and rabid fan bases, etc. is the best way to compare SEC coaches and even then I would just compare coaches at the top 6 programs. It would be a lot harder comparing a coach at say UK, Vandy, or Miss. State to a coach at UF, UGA, or Bama. But then I think you, me, and most rational football fans understand this. Most of us anyway but not all.

Tide Rising

August 24th, 2010
1:31 pm

LHardingDawg,

I remember that FSU-Michigan game like it was yesterday. First possession Mich took the ball and drove it the length of the field mostly just running right over FSU. After that FSU changed their defensive alignment or did something but it was on. FSU just beat Michigan like a red headed step child the rest of the day- just whuppped em bad.

Drew

August 24th, 2010
1:39 pm

Bobby Bowden= class, Godliness, and manhood at it’s best

5IML

August 24th, 2010
1:44 pm

TR,

Do you remember BAMA/FSU in ‘07? The first two quarters were the worst half of football in the modern era.

Gator 1

August 24th, 2010
1:48 pm

The old cheater was washed up about 10 years ago, but hung around to collect a few million each year from the florida taxpayers. I will not be buying the geezer’s book.

Gene

August 24th, 2010
1:50 pm

To Tide Rising above. actually, that’s wrong. FSU scored on the second play from scrimmage…see below. Turning point game for the program and really, for the Big Ten. Too slow, too slow…

http://mailer.fsu.edu/~abrady/FSU/Greatest_Game.html

The tone was set early in the game by Seminole great, Terrell Buckley. In front of 106,145 fans — the 4th largest in Michigan history — the 1991 Jim Thorpe Award winner stepped in front of an Elvis Grbac pass and trotted 40 yards for the Seminoles’ first touchdown. This, on the game’s second play from scrimmage! The Wolverines, however, countered with a 13 yard touchdown strike from Grbac to a diving Desmond Howard to even the game.

common sense

August 24th, 2010
1:59 pm

The article is about a good coach and a great man, not about Bama and Georgia. You people are such homers, with the attention span of a Bama player in class.

nittany lion

August 24th, 2010
2:02 pm

Bowden was evil, good has prevailed.

5IML

August 24th, 2010
2:05 pm

I apologize for interjecting BAMA since Bobby didn’t mention growing up a BAMA fan or attending BAMA games as a child or going to the BAMA game against PSU in a couple of weeks.

Bubba

August 24th, 2010
2:12 pm

Bobby Bowden was a good coahc. The fans of UGA should be very rpoud that Coahc Richt got to work tgethr, am shore othr coaches too are proud of chnces tow wotk togeht with Bowden. His sons ar goode coches too.

Ben

August 24th, 2010
2:21 pm

Bowden writes a little about Mark Richt, and how people attribute Bowden’s success to Richt, so I know that kind of bothered him. Bowden says he can see how people come to that conclusion, since FSU’s upswing & downturn coincides almost to the day, of Richt’s hiring & exit. But Bowden assures his readers that Richt’s not the only reason for his success.

Tide rising’s still going on about Saban, trying to find some way, althought it’s not p[ossible, to say Saban’s initial 9 seasons as a head coach were more impressive than Richt’s. No they wern’t. It’s not close.

Ol' Bobby

August 24th, 2010
2:24 pm

Gator 1

Dad Gum!

Still@theBAR

August 24th, 2010
2:26 pm

Richt and the dawgs will play for the MNC this year with their weak schedule. It will be so funny when the face a Real Good Tem for the Tilte and poor UGA VIII will see his first bowl game and a loss too.

Wally's World

August 24th, 2010
2:27 pm

Mark Richt had nice things to say in the book about Bowden, here’s what Richt said:

“Coach Bowden has had an enduring impact on an untold number lives for such a long period of time. Aside from my father, Coach Bowden is the most influential man in my life. I’m certain there are countless others who could say the same thing. Any success I have in the coaching business I owe mostly to Coach Bowden.”

—Mark Richt, Head Coach
University of Georgia

we will dust the fsu dirt off our feet by Ann Bowden

August 24th, 2010
2:41 pm

never has there been a more selfish coach..
his christian testimony is useless
he ruined the lives of 100’s of players

God bless the usa

Tide Rising

August 24th, 2010
2:41 pm

Gene,

I couldn’t remember exactly what happened in that FSU-Michigan game except that Michigan looked pretty impressive after their first drive and then after that FSU just dominated them. It was a great day for southern football.

Tide Rising

August 24th, 2010
2:47 pm

5IML,

Looks like Ben is his latest alias. He’s even used that one before.

Yes. I do remember the first couple qtrs of the FSU game in 07. Saban’s first year and we just flat out didn’t have the athletes that FSU still had. That first half of football and offensive ineptitude was indeed terrible but I think FSU had a lot to do with that also. Be nice to play them more often since there are some ties between the 2 programs.

I don’t know if it was mentioned but Bobby Bowden played for a year or almost a year under Bear. He was kicked off the team by Bear when he found out bobby was married. The bear had a strict policy against married players because he wanted full concentration on football. It may have been only a few games but Bowden was definitely on the team.

Fleischman in Chattanooga

August 24th, 2010
2:55 pm

Simple Simon I am still waiting for an explnation on all those National Championships that Mark Richt has won?

GStateBen

August 24th, 2010
2:57 pm

There are great ties between the Alabama and FSU program and Thank God as someone who’s given up my season tickets to support my own alma mater (Georgia State, thus the nickname) that Jimbo Fisher has the team rolling again. Bobby lost his recruiting touch because he didn’t identify with the players and even worse, he let his young assistants recruit.

I know for a fact that he blew off an in home visit with a recruit (who didn’t sign with FSU the next Feb.) to got a paid booster function. Not acceptable.

Glad Saban’s disciple Jimbo Fisher has the Noles more organized.

Go ‘Noles and GSU – The Movement. Join the Huddle.

AlaNole

August 24th, 2010
2:58 pm

Tide Rising-

Bobby was not kicked off of the Alabama football team. He quit for 2 reasons: 1) he missed his girlfriend back in Birmingham (who he would later marry), so he enrolled at Howard College, 2) he realized he was too small to play QB at Alabama.

He has said in the past that it is the only time he had ever quit anything.

Allstate

August 24th, 2010
3:00 pm

As an Allstate shareholder I am saddened to see Bobby move on. No more “hot Bobby” or Bobby statues tumbling down.

That aside, this is a time for acknowledging a coaching genius. When he came to FSU, the school was an afterthought. He would then schedule anybody at anytime and won, big-time. He also had that Southern “aw shucks, dadgummit attitude which captivated the nation’s press. He, more than any other individual at that school, was responsible for making FSU a major player in college sports.

He was a major success in college football.

That aside, this is a time for acknowledging his hubris and hypocritical ways. He had a lot of thugs in his program and would look the other way if they were his stars. Who can forget Dieon – who was said to not even to attend class during his time there? What about Sebastian Janikwoski with his date-rape drugs and how he was never suspended (Bobby defense was that those Czechs are just different people)? Then there was the whole episode at the Foot Locker for the team members -earning the title of Free Shoes U. The worst (that we know) was the cheating by his players on tests to keep them eligible, His excuse was that he didn’t know about it so it wasn’t his fault – c’mon.

He wore his religion on his sleeve to the public but would look the other way if if endagered a win on the field.

The sad, final chapter was his last few years as “head coach”. He didn’t even know what was going on during a game. They had to have a student follow him around on the sidelines with headphones as he wandered about. All in a desperate attempt to keep pace with Paterno.

In the end, FSU’s administration was forced make the change.

Bobby, I wish you nothing but the best. I guess it proves that you are human as we all but that power, if let unchecked, is a dangerous and sometimes sad, thing.

Tide Rising

August 24th, 2010
3:06 pm

AlaNole,

Okay. I’m just telling you what I read in a book about bear and the author could definitely have gotten it wrong. It was said that bear booted him. Maybe the truth is somewhere in between and Bobby left the team as you said because he wanted to get married and he knew that bear had a policy against having married players. That does sound more plausible especially if that’s what Bobby said happened. Doesn’t really matter. He ended up having a great career regardless of leaving the Alabama team.

Sooner

August 24th, 2010
3:09 pm

Who was better, Bowden or Paterno>

Class AAA

August 24th, 2010
3:12 pm

Was Bowden right about choosing when he retired or was FSU?

Quit Posting Lies

August 24th, 2010
3:14 pm

Wrong!

Bobby Bowden was NOT kicked off the Alabama football team! Some of the stuff posted here is unbelievable.

69dog

August 24th, 2010
3:14 pm

Bobby Bowden sucks. He dodged the SEC. He played a hand selected schedule, where he had many cupcakes between a few mediocre teams. Then, he joined the ACC where the schedule got even easier. He lined up with far superior talent than any team he played. A vastly overated and cowardly coach. May his retirement result in torment.

LHardingDawg

August 24th, 2010
3:27 pm

“May his retirement result in torment” – Who would wish that on anyone? Sad!!!

Ol' Bobby

August 24th, 2010
3:41 pm

69dog,

Dad Gum!

69dog

August 24th, 2010
3:46 pm

Ol’ Bobby received one thousand fold more credit than deserved during his coaching career. I don’t wish him bad health or anything. May his retirement be unnoticed as he should have been.

LHardingDawg

August 24th, 2010
4:03 pm

That’s better 69dog.

lee mackey

August 24th, 2010
4:09 pm

I realize some of you Bowden haters will jump on this, but let me relate one memory I have of the man. I graduated from Birmingham’s Woodlawn High School with him, and etched in my mind is how he handled a classroom situation our senior year. It was a few weeks or so prior to graduation, and I was in a class with him where he had not done well. We were in the midst of taking a big test which he had to pass in order to graduate, and when the teacher was distracted for about 60 seconds, many taking the test jerked out their cheat sheets. Knowing that Bobby needed to make a good grade probably worse than anybody in the room, I looked at him to see what he would do. He did nothing. He squeaked by and made a passing grade – honestly.

Now Bowden haters – go to it. I already know what you’ll say, but my memory of him is that he did the right thing when he could have cheated.

Tide Rising

August 24th, 2010
4:13 pm

Sooner,

Both were outstanding coaches. You could make an equal argument for Bowden or Paterno. Paterno not only won 2 ncs but also had 4 other unbeaten teams that didn’t get no. 1. Bowden had an incredible 14 year run of finishing in the top 5. To me this is a streak of consistency that will never again be equaled. Ever. Both great coaches and its too close to call.

Interesting

August 24th, 2010
4:19 pm

“I’m not surprised one bit that Nick Saban won this award (2009 Coach OY). He should have won it,” Bowden said. “It’s hard for me think that there’s a coach in the country right now better qualified than him, and his record shows it.”

Saban, a native of West Virginia, said the honor was especially meaningful to him because of a gesture Bowden made when Saban was a young assistant coach at Kent State. Bowden was the head coach at West Virginia at the time and knew Saban’s father.

“After my father passed away, my mother was having a lot of problems, and coach Bowden called and said if I needed to come home, he’d create a graduate assistant position for me,” Saban recalled. “I never, ever forgot that, and I don’t think anybody in my family ever forgot it.

“So this is as special an honor as I can get, based on the history that we have with coach Bowden and the class that he has.”

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=5016898

Holtz, a former head coach at N.C. State, Notre Dame and South Carolina, is now a college football analyst for ESPN. He and Bowden spent time with another when Holtz visited Tallahassee in December.

“Bobby’s been a friend of mine since 1961 and we spent our honeymoon with him because he we had no money,” Lou Holtz said. “We spent it with Ann and Bobby and the five children, which is why we only had four.”

http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2010-01-12/sports/os-grid-fsu-beat-0113-20100112_1_rick-trickett-terrell-buckley-jimbo-fisher

Marble Rye

August 24th, 2010
4:38 pm

Bobby blew all his “rights” to leave on his own terms when the academic scandal hit.

AlaNole

August 24th, 2010
5:26 pm

Allstate- I’m not going to argue Bobby’s slap-on-the-wrist approach to punishing players. Although, I do find it odd that people act like he was some renegade while other successful coaches did it from the top of Mt. Integrity. Please.

Realize this: Bobby once had Randy Moss on the roster and kicked him off the team because he got into trouble. Randy Freaking Moss.

Fess Up

August 24th, 2010
6:11 pm

Is anyone surprised? Guess who didn’t make ANY nominations for ESPN commentator (and a lousy one at that) Herbie awards? Yep, that owuld be Georgia or Mark Richt. Well, at least he’s consistent in his blatant anti-Georgia bias. Guess he’ll be surprised when AJ Green makes the top 10 list 3 times. http://espn.go.com/sportsnation/polls?pCat=46&sCat=1458
These ESPN guys, like Mark S, Low, James, Herbstriet, don’t care much for Georgia, the feeling is mutual.

Allstate

August 24th, 2010
6:14 pm

AlaNole -

Before FSU Moss had committed to go t ND. ND dropped him when he got into a big fight at school in WVa.

I have to give Booby credit also with his disarming sense of humor. It bought him a lot. I remember when one of his players was arrested and Bobby said to the press “please Lord let it be a misdemeanor (not a felony)” . If Meyer or Saban would say something like that they would be villified.

Always a nole

August 24th, 2010
7:24 pm

Bobby is one of the greatest coaches ever. Bobby’s first mistake was hiring Jeff as offensive coordinator. We started to decline at that point. I hated like hell to see Bobby leave. But I do believe it was time to move on and get the program back on track. I now fully support Jimbo Fisher and his staff…go noles

UGA thuglover

August 24th, 2010
7:51 pm

hucker

August 24th, 2010
7:58 pm

Bowden OK but many of his wins were against less than D-1 opponents……he would have never caught JoePA.

Yang

August 24th, 2010
8:01 pm

Yang

August 24th, 2010
8:09 pm

A good video clip of Richt talking about how much Bowden influenced him:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b3OVXynDdJk&feature=related

Zach Blend

August 24th, 2010
8:44 pm

Coach Bowden will be speaking at the Cherokee County Convention Center on Tuesday, November 9. The event is being thrown by Fellowship of Christian Athletes and will be held in the honor of Goshen Valley Boys Ranch.

For information on attending please contact:

Zach Blend
Zachblend@aol.com

cantondawg

August 24th, 2010
10:11 pm

According to Alabama fans, Alabama would have won 15 National championships in 14 years if Bowden had taken the job in the 1980’s.

Bama fan

August 24th, 2010
10:43 pm

cantondawg,

Jealous are we? Come over and polish my bcs trophy for me boy.

Can any of you guys use google?

August 24th, 2010
11:12 pm

Love the comments about Michigan never scheduling FSU again after losing to them in the Big House in 1986 (by 2 points). FSU went there in 1991 and were smoked.
Try bookmarking Stassen before you post nonsense

http://football.stassen.com/cgi-bin/records/opp-opp.pl?start=1869&end=2009&team1=Florida+State&team2=Michigan

AlaNole

August 24th, 2010
11:17 pm

Allstate-

He was villified in the press for that remark. If I remember correctly, that was after the Peter Warrick “Dillard’s” incident. Of all of Bowden’s disciplinary actions, that was the one I was most critical of. Warrick should have been suspended for the rest of the season.

Paul in RDU

August 24th, 2010
11:17 pm

Paterno vs Bowden. I have to go with JoePa, but I am biased from spending too many years in the snow in NE PA.

Yang

August 24th, 2010
11:29 pm

Gotta love the video NFL Films did on Richt, went through some of his years at Miami, and his successes at FSU.

good video clip:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=im3XAn_VMd4&feature=related

Google user

August 24th, 2010
11:45 pm

Can anyone use google?

Hey dopehead. It was FSU who did the smoking when they had the 51 pts in 1991 in the big house. You freaking dolt. They put it on Meeecheeeeegan.

PapaDawg

August 25th, 2010
8:17 am

I was wondering, did yaw have more good times or bad times with Coach Bowden. Why all the hate

bigd

August 25th, 2010
8:59 am

Bobby was the last of the coaches with a personality. We’re left with nothing but a bunch of corporate animatrons. FSU is now a business only.

canes rule

August 25th, 2010
12:13 pm

Bowden was cheating the whole time at fsu, covering up player crimes and choking in a bunch of wide right games against the canes. He’s overrated. He won 2 titles, both tainted.

Dgator

August 25th, 2010
2:07 pm

Seminoles should remember Bobby for being scared to join the SEC in 1991, biggest mistake FSU athletics has ever made.

jd

August 25th, 2010
3:06 pm

“One thing Bowden does not do in the book is vent against those who ultimately forced him out at Florida State.”…apparently you missed the TSN interview. Bobby Bowden is a no-class hypocrite who ran the dirtiest program in NCAA football for 30 years running…and got away with it because reporters bought into his “aw-shucks” shtick.

Chuck Finley is forever

August 25th, 2010
6:44 pm

Speaking about FSU, I know i’m about a week late posting on this subject, but I had been in Europe for business.

Who in the heck does this PUNK, James Wilder Jr think he is?! I don’t mind anybody choosing another school over UGA, but the way this kid did it is deplorable! He had his people plant stories that he was choosing UGA, he showed up at his press conference wearing UGA colors, then he pulls out an FSU cap?!

There is a thing called karma and it will come back to bite him! I know he’s suppose to be a RB, but I hope he plays LB and one of the bumble bee’s OLinemen do what they are best at, take out one of his knee’s w/ one of their famous illegal chop blocks ending his career! Then have FSU go on to win the game anyway.

Oh what sweet justice that would be! Talk about killing two birds w/ one stone!

peteralan

August 26th, 2010
7:31 am

Bowden is a great man, He really was not treated well in his last year. He had a big impact on FSU footall. This year will be a big testament to his success. That will be his team playing, the fruits of his labor.

david patsel

August 29th, 2010
8:23 am

Bobby is a good man, but even good men get tunnel vision. No one deserves to “go out on their own terms.” Least of which are coaches. When normal working people who have worked loyally somewhere for 30 years don’t get to go out on their own terms why should Bobby? My point is Bobby and all these coaches hold the schools up for more and more money but don’t think it comes with strings attached? Please. Somebody making 3 or 4 million a year has to know you MUST perform. He didn’t. End of story.

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