Breaking down the quarterbacks: SEC East

 

With training camp for just about everybody cranking up this week we’re going to spend some time looking at the quarterback position in the SEC, ACC, and nationally. We spend a lot of time talking about the importance of defense and the offensive line but let’s face it, if you don’t have a quarterback who can distribute the ball and who can limit his mistakes, you simply aren’t going to win at this level.

Today we’ll rate the quarterbacks in the SEC East. On Tuesday we’ll look at the SEC West and how the addition of Jeremiah Masoli at Ole Miss will impact the position. We’ll do the same for the ACC on Wednesday and Thursday.

Remember one thing about these rankings which, I will admit, are totally arbitrary. They have absolutely nothing to do with a player’s NFL potential. They have everything to do with the quarterback’s ability—or potential—to play college football at the SEC and ACC level.

So here we go. Feel free to disagree about the order of the rankings and provide your own:

 

BREAKING DOWN THE QUARTERBACKS: THE SEC EAST

1. Stephen Garcia, South Carolina: Yep, you read that right. I know Steve Spurrier spent the spring verbally beating on this guy like a rented mule. But if you take a closer look at his numbers, you have to conclude that he is not that far away from being a decent and productive SEC quarterback.

**–He was third in the SEC in total offense (3,048 yards) behind Tim Tebow and Ryan Mallett.

**–He averaged 18.38 completions per game, more than any SEC quarterback. To be fair, South Carolina threw the ball more than any other team in the league (440 times to Arkansas’s 439) because the Gamecocks were dead last in rushing.

But here are a couple of bad numbers he needs to improve:

**–He was ninth in passing efficiency, completing only 55.32 percent. He had 10 interceptions, which is too many. But based on his number of attempts, his interception percentage was 2.31, which was fifth in the league.

**–He has not learned how to throw the ball away. South Carolina had 37 sacks last season, the most in the SEC. Some of those sacks were because the offensive line was not very good—actually it was pretty bad. But a bunch of those sacks, Spurrier says, were because Garcia has not or will not learn to throw the ball away and live to fight another down. “Way too many negative plays,” Spurrier told me last week.

2. John Brantley, Florida: Brantley has only played in mop-up situations so he is at No. 2  because of pure talent and potential. When he does play, this kid is going to be very, very good. It’s a bit of a daunting task to be the guy after Tim Tebow. But here is what you need to know about Brantley. He comes from a family of Gators and once he committed to Florida (he originally committed to Texas), Brantley was all in. He has an NFL arm and the perfect mindset to be a quarterback at Florida. And it doesn’t hurt that he has a lot of guys around him who can run very, very fast. He will stretch the field vertically and thus put opposing cornerbacks on edge on every play. Now all Florida has to do is figure out who’s going to carry the ball on third and one. No. 15  (Tebow) used to do that. “Somebody has to do it (run on third and short) but it won’t be me,” said Brantley. See what I mean?

3. Aaron Murray, Georgia: Murray, the redshirt freshman from Tampa, is the guy. And, like David Greene in 2001, he’s going to be surrounded by a lot of really good players. There is a veteran offensive line, one of the top three receivers in all of college football (A.J. Green), and what should be a very good running game with Caleb King and Washaun Ealey. I’ve heard from more than one SEC coach outside of Georgia that this kid has all the intangibles to be a great player. And you have to say that Mark Richt and Mike Bobo know how to coach the position. Georgia’s offensive line has to take it as a challenge to keep Murray’s uniform clean. He has to stay vertical and he can’t get hurt. Let me repeat that: HE CAN’T GET HURT!

Georgia’s options after Murray (Logan Gray and true freshman Hutson Mason) are limited—and scary.

4. Mike Hartline, Morgan Newton, Ryan Mossakowski, Kentucky: New head coach Joker Phillips is going to have to get this race down to two guys pretty soon. Hartline has the edge because, despite a knee injury in 2009, he has played in 21 games and started 14. I think Newton, the former Indiana High School Player of the Year, is the most talented of the three (by far) and has the most upside.  He impressed me with his poise on the road when Kentucky beat Auburn and Georgia. He can make plays with his arm and his legs. Mossakowski has a good arm but was limited as a true freshman last season because of shoulder surgery. My guess is that he’ll be the odd man out. Hartline will be the starter because he makes the fewest mistakes. But Newton will be a big factor because with him in the lineup, the Kentucky offense will three big playmakers in Newton, wide receiver Randall Cobb, and running back Derrick Locke.

5. Larry Smith, Jared Funk, Jordan Rodgers, Vanderbilt: After Smith led Vanderbilt to a win in the 2008 Music City Bowl I was convinced he’d have a pretty good run in Nashville. But last season he completed only 46.7 percent of his passes and the Vanderbilt offense was just awful, averaging only 8.9 points in its eight SEC games. Smith is still the starter heading into fall camp but keep an eye on redshirt senior Jared Funk and JUCO transfer Jordan Rodgers (brother of Aaron). It will be interesting to see if new head coach Robbie Caldwell views this position differently than the departed Bobby Johnson. Johnson shook up the offensive coaching staff in an effort to jump start the unit. If Vanderbilt doesn’t start scoring more, the Commodores are looking at another 2-10 season because they have 10 bowl teams on the schedule.

6-. Matt Simms, Tyler Bray, Tennessee: It looked like Nick Stephens was going to be the guy to replace Jonathan Crompton until spring practice started. But once his reps went down in practice, Stephens continued a disquieting trend of Tennessee quarterbacks (such as B.J. Coleman) leaving town instead of sticking around to compete.

So now the position goes to Simms, a JUCO transfer who started his career at Louisville, and Bray, a 6-6 freshman who enrolled early and took part in spring ball. Bray played better in the spring game than Simms (who had three interceptions) but he has no experience in game situations. This is a troubled position that will only be made worse by an offensive line that could start multiple freshmen. If true freshman Nash Nance from Georgia becomes a factor during camp, you’ll know the Vols are in big trouble. It’s got to be Simms (who started his career at Louisville) because of a schedule that includes Oregon, Florida, at LSU, at Georgia, Alabama, at South Carolina in the span of eight weeks. You can’t throw a freshman—and a thin freshman (6-6, 210) at that—into that meat grinder.

 Tuesday: The SEC West and the impact of Jeremiah Masoli at Ole Miss.

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212 comments Add your comment

Tommy Bowden

August 2nd, 2010
8:17 am

First again!

Atlanta Jackets

August 2nd, 2010
8:19 am

Haha! Mutters! You’re so called great QB is third in the east. Yeah, I fear him. NOT! The Robot will crush you. He’s the best QB in the NCAA and yours is third in the east! LOL! ROTFLMAO!!

Dink

August 2nd, 2010
8:21 am

Tony, we’re getting close!

As much as I dislike UT, I have a feeling Matt Simms will be the biggest surprise this year ( with Aaron a close 2nd).

Go Dawgs!

kaput

August 2nd, 2010
8:25 am

Garcia is terrible, Mr. College Football, just plain terrible! Him being number one over Brantley in your rankings is based on the fact that he has more playing experience. But I would imagine that you would admit that, by year’s end, your list is going to look a lot different.

So why not project forward for the season?

destin dawg

August 2nd, 2010
8:26 am

Garcia and the S.C. game is huge for us .. Spurrier and Garcia both seem to run hot and cold sporadically… we need to RUSH “em in passing situations early in the game… keep’em pinned with our Kicking game…. it’ll be hot at noon in Columbia… so be in shape and RUN the dam ball !!!! GOOOOO Dawgs !!

quedog

August 2nd, 2010
8:26 am

Actually Tommy Bowden, you were fired so this is your biggest “first.”

Fuzzybee

August 2nd, 2010
8:36 am

Wow not a proven quarterback in the group – it looks like a down year in the east.

Dawg Trainer

August 2nd, 2010
8:38 am

And the hits just keep coming. Even Mr College Football has low expectations of Tennessee in 2010. So I’ll go ahead and post this…The Vols will ruin at least 3 teams’ seasons this fall. The most likely suspects: Oregon, Georgia, and South Carolina.

Dawgtards ruin this state

August 2nd, 2010
8:39 am

Is this all the mighty SEC has to offer for QB’s in this division. Pitiful, you call yourselves a major conference? Your QB’s suck.

Dapper Dan

August 2nd, 2010
8:42 am

“the impact of Jeremiah Masoli at Ole Miss.”

Maybe you’ve answered this Tony and I just missed it, but doesn’t this guy have to sit out a year and if not, why?

Steve

August 2nd, 2010
8:42 am

How many years now has the uga excuse been we got a veteran off line. And every year it’s the same result. If murray was so good, he would have been put in last year. He will be just an average qb and stop with the greene comps. Where is greene playing today?

SC 78

August 2nd, 2010
8:45 am

Garcia is the best of the group based on seniority. We get GA 2nd week and at home. This is our season and probably their’s too. I think we pull out the w. Tough to play your first road game in Columbia and the loud fans.

TommyJack

August 2nd, 2010
8:47 am

TB: Agree not a banner year for QB’s at TN….But placing Mike Hartline above our guys??? Perhaps you need to rethink this one.

Willie Wonka Dawg

August 2nd, 2010
8:48 am

The Oompa Loompa at QB for the dawgs is a big concern because he is prone to the injury bug. He may hve to borrow those pin ball wizzard shoes from Sir Elton John to see over that offensive line though.

Fuzzybee

August 2nd, 2010
8:48 am

SC 78 – I think you are right GA and SC have a real chance to make some noise this year.

Dapper Dan

August 2nd, 2010
8:48 am

Don’t know if it’s accurate, but one report says there’s a loophole that if you enroll in a graduate program not offered at your previous school, you are eligible immediately. Since Tony’s mentioning impact like it’s this season, I’ll guess it’s accurate. But, dang, Tony, how about a sentence of explanation when something goes against the norm?

GeoffDawg

August 2nd, 2010
8:48 am

Not looking like a particularly strong QB class in the SEC East so far. Of course, that could all change by the end of the year when we can see what Murray and Brantley are really capable of with significant playing time under their belts.

Also, if Nance is in the QB battle at UT, wow. That’s up there with Murray getting hurt scary. Let’s all knock on wood.

GeoffDawg

August 2nd, 2010
8:51 am

Steve – David Greene is probably playing insurance executive in his office today. That didn’t stop him from setting the record as the winningest QB in Div I college history. Also, in case you missed it, TB specifically stated that these rankings have nothing to do with NFL potential, only productivity at the college level.

RD

August 2nd, 2010
8:54 am

I have to agree with kaput. I think you’re crazy Tony to rank Garcia at no. 1. Brantley is an easy no. 1 here and I’m a Dawg fan but just being realistic.

Not so fast...

August 2nd, 2010
8:54 am

It appears that Mr. Garcia “wins” the title of preseason SEC-East QB by default. Of the top three picks, he’s the only one that has logged any substantive time.

On paper, it looks like it could be a down year for QBs in the SEC-East. But, I suspect Brantley will look very good in Florida’s system, and Murray will be better than serviceable with the talent around him (particularly the OL). Garcia will live and die by SC’s OL, which has been dreadful since Spurrier has been there.

With all of that said, if SC was ever going to make a move in the SEC-East, it’s now or never. If they can’t win 8-9 games in the regular season this year, they likely won’t get another chance at it for another 5-10 years.

GeoffDawg

August 2nd, 2010
8:55 am

SC 78 – totally agree that playing in Columbia in week 2 will be tough. I expect our O-line and two very good tailbacks to be the primary focus of our offense though. Murray’s exposure will be minimized. It may not work out this well, but think 2009 UGA offense vs. tech.

Who cares

August 2nd, 2010
9:00 am

SEC? Who cares

Frank Lane

August 2nd, 2010
9:04 am

I think that it is Murray and Brantley, two first time starters. Garcia won’t pan out.

Fuzzybee

August 2nd, 2010
9:07 am

GeoffDawg – good observation but the SC defense is much better than my yellow jackets defense. I think you will need Murry to do more than hand off to those backs.

help, I live in Ga

August 2nd, 2010
9:12 am

Wow. Not a ringer in the whole bunch. The SEC East just might look like the Big 10. That would suck. Somebody has to step up.

joe

August 2nd, 2010
9:12 am

So what is it the makes a freshman who’s never thrown a pass in a game, Murray…who is shorter with much less of an arm, better than say Bray at TN, who is just about the same as Manning or Ainge as a freshman (thin but with a cannon for an arm)? And to top that, you also ranked KY and Vandy’s ahead as well?? Me thinks your rankings are bassackwards.

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Gtax

August 2nd, 2010
9:18 am

(((( Nesbitt for Heismen ))))

- 45 – 42 -

Tony Barnhart

August 2nd, 2010
9:24 am

For those of you have asked: We reported on this last week when the news about Jeremiah Masoli first broke. Masoli will take advantage of an NCAA rule that has been in place for several years. Any one who has received their undergraduate degree (as Masoli has) and still has eligibility remaing (which Masoli does), is allowed to enroll in a Master’s Degree program at another school and be immediately eligible. The stipulation is that it must be a Master’s program which your previous school did not have.

The rule was put into place to help really bright kids who graduate early and who have to leave their former school to pursue their academic goals. It only impacts a handful of players each year. It’s a good rule. The key is that you have to graduate and Masoli did that.

Dr. Kenneth Noisewater

August 2nd, 2010
9:25 am

i think Murray will be fine, but certainly concerned if he goes down. Gray/Mason better be ready to go ASAP if the latter happens.

BrokeBackJacket

August 2nd, 2010
9:28 am

To “Help, I live in Ga.”

Try I-75 north or I-20 west!
No thanks needed.

Gtax

August 2nd, 2010
9:30 am

Tony which QB do you think will start after Murray tears his hamstring running out of the tunnel vs Lou Lafayette? My money is on Grey.

Dawgies will be in a world of hurt this fall!!

UGAY in the Papa Johns Bowl

August 2nd, 2010
9:35 am

The ACC Coastal is way harder than the SEC East, HANDS DOWN!

Keeps his ear's apart...

August 2nd, 2010
9:40 am

Gee, the top three QB’s are from Florida, and two from Tampa, go figure. The problem with Stephen, and always has been since his years at Jefferson H.S, is the space between his ears. Against Plant’s Robert Marve, Garcia had to run out the clock, but they passed and turned the ball over with something like 29 seconds left, and Plant went 70 some yards, won the game, and went on to winning their first championship. He thinks that he can make plays that just aren’t there. Spurrier hasn’t been able to coach that aspect out of him. There are times when you need to go for the brass ring when you’re behind, but Stephen thinks it’s every play. The speed of college players just doesn’t allow these heroics on a regular basis. Murray made a statement last year that one of adjustments that he has to make is to the speed of the game. He realized that you aren’t playing at this level unless you are something special. There lies the biggest difference in these two. Brantley is a pure passer and not a head case and like Murray he will hit a few bumps in the road, but both should have better years than Garcia. Unless SC starts running a more balanced attack, then Garcia will keep trying to make plays, and Spurrier will keep throwing his visor. Can’t really blame Garcia when you think that your play is the best chance at winning and the team can’t mount a running attack.

alan gordon

August 2nd, 2010
9:44 am

truth is Gators,Dawgs,Hogs, and more can’t get their quarterbacks hurt.changes the whole season quickly

murfdawg

August 2nd, 2010
9:44 am

Tony,
I can’t believe that you are still trying to convince us that SOS is a good coach. He has run off more qbs than he has developed. and Garcia is the one he has developed. USC may beat us in the 2nd game. But at the end of the year UGA and Murray will be way better than USC and Garcia. And SOS will have another MEDIOCRE year as a mediocre coach.

JB

August 2nd, 2010
9:46 am

Murray will be an improvement over Cox not just because of talent, but I think we come out of the Box with a pretty stout running game, and we’ll lean run early, but look for Murray to roll out and hit a TE.
The game plan from our opponents the first few games will be to stop the run and MAKE Murray beat you passing……..I think we run on anybody on our schedule.

Ctown

August 2nd, 2010
9:49 am

Hey TeeeJ. How’s things? I agree. I don’t see how Murray should be above Simms either. Murray’s last game was high school.

Mike in Charlotte

August 2nd, 2010
9:49 am

I love how it is never possible that the South Carolina QB or, GOD forbid, the Florida QB could get injured. What shape would they be in if that happened??????

Mikey in SAV

August 2nd, 2010
9:50 am

Is Murray going to wear that glove on his right hand like he did in Spring practice?

help, I live in Ga

August 2nd, 2010
9:51 am

Joe- Bray is not ready. He’s not 210 as listed. He’s closer to 6′6″, 200. He is very good but when you look at him without the pads on, his under armor actually sags. He needs at another year to beef up and he will be very good if they can protect him.

Sims has a great arm but looked horrible in the spring game. I thought it was nerves but he says he hadn’t learned the playbook at that point. He could be good but he’ll have to be as tough as his dad was because the O-line will not help him. Could be interesting to watch but will probably be very painful this year.

How2fish

August 2nd, 2010
9:55 am

The ACC Coastal is way harder than the SEC East, HANDS DOWN! LMAO…thanks for a great laugh to start my Monday! That’s priceless !!

5IML

August 2nd, 2010
9:56 am

This QB list looks pretty weak right now. I’m sure a couple of them will step up during the season. Hopefully the ones from USC, UF, and UT will struggle since those are BAMA’s eastern opponents this year.

Whoa Nellie

August 2nd, 2010
10:01 am

Mr. Bulldawg, errr, I mean Mr. College Football, what is the likelihood of Texas A&M not getting their $20M? If Commish Bebe of the Big 12 (Minus 2) can’t come up with the cash will the Aggies dash to the $EC???

Stabby McKnifefight

August 2nd, 2010
10:02 am

Ok, so you want projections on the season? Well, I will do better than that. Here’s the actual stats for each of these guys for next season. Don’t ask me how I got these… worm holes and such are very complicated.

Simms 52.1% 2,434 yards, 12/15 TD/INT
Brantley 62.3 2,643 22/8
Garcia 59.1 2,996 26/11
Murray 58.9 2,466 17/12
Hartline 63.2 1,977 15/4

Big Albany Dawg

August 2nd, 2010
10:03 am

Hey! Watch it man, there’s a beverage here.

Gtax

August 2nd, 2010
10:04 am

Dawggie fans underrate what Cox did for them last year. The turnovers hurt, but he was otherwise one of the more productive QBs in the SEC. They are also overrating their running game, which was only “improved” the 2nd half of last season because of the bad defenses they played(TTU, Auburn, Kentucky, GT, A&M).

We heard all this same schtick coming into last season: “The O-line is one of the best in the country” “The running game will carry the team” “Our QB will only have to be a game manager.”

UGAg = 7-5 this season, with another manhandling between the shrubs this November!!!!!!!

GeoffDawg

August 2nd, 2010
10:05 am

TB – could you see if my reply to Fuzzybee was censored? Maybe using the word Gamec*cks flagged it?

help, I live in Ga

August 2nd, 2010
10:07 am

Stabby
I think you’re right except one of Garcia’s 26 TD’s will be controversial and end up with an asterick beside it.

Good info. I’m calling my bookie.

Aiken Chicken

August 2nd, 2010
10:09 am

Didnt the wonderful Murray come out of spring as the backup and the first string guy got run off? So, suddenly the guy who couldnt even be a starter is gonna be all world. I dont see it. I agree with Tony…third in the east at best.

TampaGator

August 2nd, 2010
10:10 am

Tony…..

the 3rd and short QB at Florida has already been selected. On certain short yardage downs, Earl Okine (big DE) replaces Jordan Reed at TE and Reed (all 6-3 and 245 lbs of power replaces the new Denver Bronco, Tim Tebow. Didn’t you say you went to some of the Florida practices in the spring? That is what they worked on for short yardage plays and Reed was both impressive running and throwing the ball from the wildcat formation.

You are right….Murray better not get hurt for Georgia….but the same for Florida with Brantley. Trey Burton and Tyler Murphy, both freshman, are the backups for the Gators. That puts Gator fans not at ease….but Trey Burton did enroll early and made some progress in spring practice. Tyler Murphy will end up playing WR at Florida….like Logan Gray….and neither will be very good at QB or WR…probably.

reservoirDAWG

August 2nd, 2010
10:13 am

I’m back from the beach and laughing that Tech fans are still obsessed with UGA. Losers!

TampaGator

August 2nd, 2010
10:14 am

Stabby….

let me guess….you rushed out to Walmat at purchased NCAA 2011.

DP

August 2nd, 2010
10:18 am

Tony, are you at all curious about who is paying for Masoli’s PR firm given that his father already tapped his 401K to take the kid to Hawaii for high school football? Any concern about the role the PR firm played in the SI story on Masoli, which read like a PR firm wrote it?

It doesn’t appear that Masoli was concerned about the lack of a Parks and Recreation graduate program (which is what he’s enrolling in at Ole Miss) at Oregon until he was kicked him off the football team.

The chancellor of Ole Miss made one comment on Masoli: “That’s a very complex issue.” Then he declined to answer any further questions.

TampaGator

August 2nd, 2010
10:18 am

Aiken Chicken…..

It did appear that “Muscleraper” was the better QB in the spring for Georgia….just not a better person as it turned out. And sometimes being a better person eventually makes you a better QB. Murray’s good….how good????….and can he stay healthy…????

How2fish

August 2nd, 2010
10:21 am

Aiken Chicken no Murray was still No.1 out of the spring, Mett was No.2 but did have a better spring game…however he didn’t get “run off” he was released for lying to CMR about what he really did when he was arrested for underage drinking. And I’m thinking which ever team loses at Columbia ends up 3rd in the East..it will be a hot bloody mess and I can’t wait!!

Mark

August 2nd, 2010
10:24 am

1- Murray’s the best QB in the country, best in SEC by a mile. Garcia not in same zip code, Mallet is 1 dimensional, and can’t ran or evade pressure. Murray was the #2 rated QB out of high school, again, by far, the best of the SEC.
2- If Murray struggled, or gets i9njured, Logan Gray’s anothwer Elite 11 QB, and Hutson Mason’s a Parade All-American who owns every Georgia passing record. It’s the best 3 QB’s in America. Any 1 of the three can win a National Championship NOW. Logan’s probably the best college QB for Georgia this year, Murray’s 2nd, but Mason will have the best pro career. Best 3 QB’s on depth chart Georgia has ever had.

Mark

August 2nd, 2010
10:26 am

Brantley will be a huge dissapointment. He’s never been tested, in high school or college. He has to follow Tebow, and he doesn’t have any WR’s or TE’s with experience to throw to. Look out, this guy will take 40 sacks and throw 15-20 interceptions if he starts every game. Had a terrible Spring as awhole, lots of sacks & interceptions, had a 40% completion % in 1st Spring game.

dawgdammit

August 2nd, 2010
10:30 am

Way harder? In what way? Are you trying to be erotic here?

joe

August 2nd, 2010
10:31 am

@ mark- “Any 1 of the three can win a National Championship NOW.” LMAO…blindarse homer…

GeoffDawg

August 2nd, 2010
10:31 am

Aiken Chicken – you got that completely backwards.

Chase

August 2nd, 2010
10:34 am

Phil Steele didn’t rank Brantley in top 25 QB’s, I see why. He’s never done anything. He will really struggle against Alabama, LSU, and Georgia. Probably get injured in one of those games, the guys never been hit in his entire career against an SEC calibre defense. Brantley has never started a game for Florida.

Bo

August 2nd, 2010
10:36 am

John Brantley has a weak O-Line, inexeprieced receivers, and RB’s that fumble at a record pace. He’s going to be sacked more than Tebow, 30+ sacks. If 1 of those sacks is a tough tackle, he’s probabl;y out, like McCoy, from a tough hit or fall.

Mike

August 2nd, 2010
10:49 am

like most here, I would rank Brantley LAST in the SEC. He will be pummeled by the level of competition.

How2fish

August 2nd, 2010
10:58 am

Wow…I’m a Dog fan and I’d love it if those doubting John Brantley were right, but how in the hell can you think he won’t baring injury be a good SEC QB Hell with the talent around him he could be a few steps down on the talent ladder and still be as good as most of the QB’s this year in the SEC east. Sorry he will have to prove to me that he is a bust just as Murray (I hope) will prove to be a winner.

DP

August 2nd, 2010
10:59 am

Tony, the deadline for applying to the Parks and Recreation graduate program at Ole Miss for everybody other than Masoli is April 1.

http://www.olemiss.edu/depts/graduate_school/application_deadlines.php

Have you seen Masoli’s website (created by the PR firm, no doubt)? On the front page he thanks SI and its reporter for the story (i.e. the PR puff piece) they wrote on him.

He had to go to Hawaii from California to play high school football, he had to go to a community college in San Francisco because no D-1 school would take him, he now has to go to Ole Miss because Oregon (the school that took Onterrio “The Whizzinator” Smith after he was kicked out at Tennessee) kicked him out. But he’s really a great kid who has hardly been in any trouble. It’s all a misunderstanding.

TampaGator

August 2nd, 2010
11:06 am

Mark…
are you an ostrich or a bad stand up comedian?

Bo….
4 OL starters returning for the Gators…Nixon (very talented Soph and started as a freshman) – LT, Gilbert(Sr)- RT, Johnson (Sr) – LG, and Pouncey (Sr) – C)…with Pouncey being projected as one of the best centers in the country…is hardly a weak OL. In fact, Florida’s line is ranked second only to Georgia’s OL in the SEC. And the new starter at RG was the highest rated OG in the country coming out of HS….James Wilson (RSSoph). And they are deep on the OL with very talented Fr. and Sophs. ready to play………and some of the Gator receivers might be inexperienced…but I will take their speed and talent…and do just fine with Brantley. And where did you get that stat on the Gator RBs fumbling at a record pace??? Meyer does not tolerate RBs who fumble the ball…and they don’t play if they do. Get your facts right, dude.

Shane

August 2nd, 2010
11:06 am

The ACC Coastal is way harder than the SEC East, HANDS DOWN!

To even compare the SEC to the ACC is a joke.

Didn’t a bad UGA team beat the ACC Coastal Champion just last year?

Shane

August 2nd, 2010
11:08 am

UGAg = 7-5 this season, with another manhandling between the shrubs this November!!!!!!!

A three point fluke once in a decade event = manhandling if your GT

Tech goes 7-5. CPJ cant lean on Gaileys talent anymore FAIL !!

UGA 10-2 and back in a major bowl.

Some Sense

August 2nd, 2010
11:29 am

If Ole Miss played ACC basketball, the Duke students would throw laptops at Jeremiah Masoli.

Bill

August 2nd, 2010
11:33 am

Shane- No way Georgia wins more than 7. To think they will is just blind optimism. Maybe when Murray is a junior, but not now. Especially if Murray gets hurt. Your back-up is a punt returner, and he’s not even good at that.

SCbetterthanuthink

August 2nd, 2010
11:41 am

Just to try and add some balance to all the GA homers here… If Garcia’s level of improvement this year is anything close to the gains he made from ‘08 to ‘09 he WILL still be at the top of this list at the end of the season. To boot the new O-line coach will get the running game on track and the 2-deep receiver roster will dwarf the opponets’ secondary. All of that said, Sept 11th at high noon will be the diiference between a good season and a great one in Columbia. We all know that in SC… so you better bring your A-game or it’s going to be a long day for the dawgs.

How2fish

August 2nd, 2010
11:43 am

Bill we have won more with less, less on D, less at QB and when my friend has CMR not won 7 or more games hmmmm? I do agree that we could be better next year than this one.

Bill

August 2nd, 2010
11:46 am

How2- I realize Coach Richt’s history, but I just don’t see how he will pull off more than 7 this year. I could be wrong. Just ask either of my ex-wives.

GeoffDawg

August 2nd, 2010
11:50 am

Bill – blind optimism or logical analysis. I’d lean towards the latter. They may not be BCS bowl good, but to think they’re at best a seven win team is biased mudslinging.

Leonard's Losers

August 2nd, 2010
11:54 am

How is Richard Samuel looking at Linebacker ?

Bill

August 2nd, 2010
12:02 pm

Geoff- No sir. Not slinging any mud. I don’t have a dog in this fight. Pardon the pun. If anything, I am being logical. Maybe you, sir, are the one who is blinded.

How2fish

August 2nd, 2010
12:04 pm

Bill, I could be too and you can ask mine too… however I think we can go 8-4 or 9-3 unless Murray gets hurt or the D doesn’t show anything at all. Will we win the East…not going to say that at all I hope we can closely contend for the East but I think the Gators we be pretty darn good again this year not unbeatable but still the team to beat in the East.

76-Dawg

August 2nd, 2010
12:07 pm

Tony- If Brantley at Florida gats hurt who would be next in line and how good are they?

Bill

August 2nd, 2010
12:09 pm

How2- If a few bounces go the dog’s way then yes, maybe I can see 8-4. Either way, good luck to you and your team this year. I know it will be a long year for myself in that I am a Tennessee fan. Hopefully, we can make a few strides this year and continue to improve to get back to being a player in the East.

hello

August 2nd, 2010
12:16 pm

Your right Tony….if Murray gets injured…UGA will be in a lot of trouble. He will get hit…no offensive line can protect the QB all the time…UGA fans better hope he knows how to get away and slide…im sure some defenses will be trying to hit him hard.

gadawgs

August 2nd, 2010
12:17 pm

What cracks me up is all of the Murray haters from other teams (yes FL included) that would have given their left nut to have him come to their school but when he didn’t he all of the sudden he is too short and he sucks. Meyer wanted Murray VERY badly. Murray had 50 plus scholarship offers to go anywhere he wanted to go but he chose Athens (and we are thankful he did). All of those D1 schools that offered him a scholarship know more about talent than any of us so I am going to say Murray is projected to be pretty darn good if they all wanted him.

How2fish

August 2nd, 2010
12:20 pm

Bill good luck to the Vols and CDD I think he will turn out to be a very good hire for UT.Of course I want to see the Dawgs win vs UT but good luck against the Gators this year and every year!

Beast from the East

August 2nd, 2010
12:48 pm

Tony,
I’d say your rankings are fair based on the lack of actual college reps that most of the SEC East qb’s have. Having said that, I think those rankings will be totally different come the end of the season. UF will be in trouble, as well, if Brantley goes down. He’s been in the system for several years and UF will surely have to reign in the play-calling if Trey Burton has to replace him due to injury.
Let’s hope for any injury-free season from the qb’s in the East.
Go Gators!

dagnabit

August 2nd, 2010
12:57 pm

Murray will be a big surprise all right. Right after the broken leg in the Arkansas game.

reality

August 2nd, 2010
1:00 pm

I’d rank Hartline ahead of Murray.

Go Niners

August 2nd, 2010
1:00 pm

I didn’t expect Tony to rank Georgia above Florida.

But he’s dead wrong.

Florida will fall, and Georgia will rise this year.

Florida will get CRUSHED like a tiny little flea by Georgia this year, look for a 20 point blowout, easy.

Gator Rob

August 2nd, 2010
1:01 pm

Shane – you are corret sir, a middle of the pack SEC team (UGA) beat the Coastal Division Champ last year. Also, a middle of the pack SC team beat the snot out of the Atlantic Division Champ. And for good measure UF raped FSU… all on the same day.

Best of luck to GT, FSU, Miami, etc. in their quests to win the South’s Junior Varsity Converence.

Maybe they’ll get more than 30K people to show up to the ACC Championship game this year.

Gator Rob

August 2nd, 2010
1:04 pm

Go Niners – you were probably on here last year under a different name claiming the same thing… and the year before that. Just except reality, good luck in your quest for 2nd place. Just try not to lose to Kentucky this year.

Bill

August 2nd, 2010
1:07 pm

How2- I think Coach DD will get the job done given enough time. I just hope the big boosters stay patient. Fulmer and that other d-bag left us in a bit of a pickle.

reality

August 2nd, 2010
1:09 pm

Gator Rob…UF will get waxed by that JV team from Talahassee this year…bank on it.

Go Niners

August 2nd, 2010
1:11 pm

Anyone picking South Carolina over Georgia needs to be seriously challenged. Richt OWNS South Carolina, his 7-2 record against SC shows Richt’s QB’s in another league than SteveSpuurrier’s QB’s.

Any of UGA’s 3 QB’s will beat Garcia in 2010. Not even close.

Bass Fisherman

August 2nd, 2010
1:13 pm

Natsayers do this every few years when Richt has a down yeatr, like 2001 & 2006.

Both times, naysayers were wrong, but bless their hearts, they show up with their negative dreams every time Richt has a bad seasons. They’re never right, since Richt finishes #2 or #3 in 2002 & 2007, but they still keep trying to hope against common sense.

Greg

August 2nd, 2010
1:15 pm

I don’t guess any of you guys saw the Bowl game, where UConn’s Lakatos shut out Spurrier and Garcia.

Gonna be a blowout of gargantuan proportions–Georgia wins by 38 over Garcia.

Matthew

August 2nd, 2010
1:16 pm

Good grief, Murray is not just the best QB in the SEC, he’s the best in the nation, don’t any of these journalists real rvials or scout? Get informed.

McCoy says Murray is “the best he’s EVER SEEN”.

Gator Rob

August 2nd, 2010
1:17 pm

reality? not a good choice of names for you my friend. You’re even more delirious than some of the UGA fans around here. At least they have a proven head coach..

UF is on a different level than FSU right now, and it’s going to take a lot for that to change. I understand you’re fired up because there’s a new regime but that doesn’t change the talent difference and UF has a coaching staff that has proven they know how to win. Could FSU sneak up on UF and upset them at Doak this year? It’s conceivable, but to claim that FSU will wax UF just proves how little you and most of your fan base knows about football.

reality

August 2nd, 2010
1:20 pm

Gator Rob…the balance of power is shifting. The SEC has Alabama. The ACC has FSU, VT, Miami and GT. It was a great run for the SEC but the NC this year will come out of the Big ten or ACC.

Aiken Chicken

August 2nd, 2010
1:23 pm

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Bo

August 2nd, 2010
1:29 pm

Brantley will hve such a bad year, poor guy, sure, he’s never played against tough comeptition in high school or college, and yes, he’ll be compared to Tebow every step, but his biggest problem is, he doesn’t have an offensive line, wr’s or te’s with any experience. If he hands off to a running back, all are fumble prone, which is why Meyer only let them touch the ball 4 plays in the SEC Champ last season.

The guys gonna get sacked so many times it might set a record.

chazzo

August 2nd, 2010
1:32 pm

Atlanta Jackets,

Resting On Toilet For Laptop Math Attack Online!!!???

You go get ‘em, you engineer you.

oh my golly!

August 2nd, 2010
1:45 pm

Oh lists mean so much to me and they are always right!!! Tears leaving eyes and running down face! Murray will show the haters and gaters!

Kb

August 2nd, 2010
1:45 pm

Think this is a pretty fair pre-season assessment Garcia has a big edge in experience, Florida’s inexperience at the receiver position could hurt Brantley, Murray is surrounded by experience
has the opportunity to have a big year.

I'm the real MR. College Football

August 2nd, 2010
1:47 pm

I’m the real expert this guy who wrote this article has never played a sport in his life. twinkie eater!

reality....bites

August 2nd, 2010
1:47 pm

Hey, reality – you could use a dose of it. Not one of those ACC “powers” you just mentioned would even sniff a division title in the SEC. If any of them do, in fact, have a strong year, it’ll be the result of the continued lack of quality in the conference as a whole. No fewer than 6 SEC teams would have run through that conference with results equal to or better results than Tech last year.

Uga In Papa

August 2nd, 2010
1:48 pm

I guess you weren’t born last year when UGA and South Carolina beat tek and clemons then two brest teams in the A SHE SHE. You are just another nerdy tek fan who has a big inferiority compllex that you just can’t get over.

TS

August 2nd, 2010
1:53 pm

Brantley was 15 for 19 for 201 yds in this years spring game. Not sure where the earlier poster got his 40% completion rate from unless he’s very bad with fractions.

Chris Rainey and Jeff Demps returning at running back will negate a lot of sacks. You can’t send the house every play like teams did agianst Tebow.

That being said, Branley only has 76 passes to his name on record. Our defense will have to win the big games for us which I expect they will.

Reality- what irony

August 2nd, 2010
1:54 pm

Reality…. you must live in a parallel universe where everything is just the opposite of what is real.. In your universe you have passed puberty, tek is better than UGA, the acc is better than the SEC, Fla St. is better than UF.

Go back to your cubicle and read your porn mags cause you never sniffed any red panties in real life. You’re not man enough.

DawginLex

August 2nd, 2010
1:55 pm

Based on previous performances:

Brantley
Hartline/Newton
Garcia
Smith
Murray
Bray

Based on reality and taking into account who surrounds them:

Brantley
Murray
Garcia
Hartline/Newton
Bray
Smith

Professor fo College Ball

August 2nd, 2010
1:55 pm

Agreed, Brantley had dismal Spring, completed less than 60% of his passes over 3 spiring scrimmages, threw 6 interceptions, and had 21 sacks.

DawgDayAfternoon

August 2nd, 2010
2:01 pm

Mr. College Football is right on to start the season. Stephen Garcia is the only proven QB in the east. Brantley, Murray have a learning curve to start the season. By year end one of these two will have emerged as the top QB in the SEC east.

Marky Marky

August 2nd, 2010
2:03 pm

Agree with Colt McCoy that Aaaron Murray is

“one of the best player’s he’s ever seen”

He’s the next Drew Brees, a little taller, but dual threat, great production.

Max

August 2nd, 2010
2:05 pm

It’s an insult to compare Murray to SEC level talent.

The only question, is since Murray outdueled Garrett Gilbert and won the Elite 11 MVP award, is Georgia’s Aaron Murray the #1 QB in the nation?

I’d have to say, not only is he the best, he’s the best I’ve ever seen play QB.

sONNY

August 2nd, 2010
2:07 pm

What will Murray’s rank be among the greats 3 years from now?

That’s the question for me.

Sure, he’ll be among the top 10 to ever play QB in college, but will he finish #1?

gdawginkalamazoo

August 2nd, 2010
2:10 pm

I think both Brantley and Murray will struggle this year. Remember how good Tebow ended up being? Remember Stafford was the #1 draft pick? Both those guys had mediocre starting years in the SEC. I don’t expect the SEC defenses to be any easier on Brantley and Murray regardless of the talent they are surrounded by. On the same line I think Garcia will be a little better this year because of the Lattimore kid. Having the running game behind (if the O-line is decent) Garcia will give him better options than throwing all the time.

bills

August 2nd, 2010
2:11 pm

Gee, lemmee think. Murray, Brantley, no game starts. Garcia? A full season and part of another. Don’t underrate experience. SC-GA will be season-defining, tough battle for both teams, conditioning may make the difference. Who knows how effective GA’s defense will be? SC has veteran defense returning. I’ll pick GA because of OL and running backs.

ugaclassof2004

August 2nd, 2010
2:17 pm

Atlanta Jackets

I don’t recall us ever really needing to use our QB against ya’ll last year. Hey look, Caleb King just scored again!

Tech Sucks

August 2nd, 2010
2:19 pm

Never gets old when the nerds take a break from World of Warcraft to come and talk smack. Even after they have lost 8 of the last 9 games against UGA, their lone victory a whopping 3 point differential.

We all saw how Tech ran through that weak ACC schedule then got their asses handed to them by the Dawgs yet again.

Stick to Warcraft and ComicCon dorks.

ugaclassof2004

August 2nd, 2010
2:20 pm

bills

Experience is like luck, its only useful if its good. Garcia has played in more games than Murray or Brantly, but he sucks so that cancels the experience out. Garcia has the tools, but he’s as soft as a wet paper bag mentally. Not exactly someone I would want leading my team.

Bronze

August 2nd, 2010
2:28 pm

Like Phil Steele, I see the offense at Georgia scoring 38 a game, and putting up near 500 yards of offense a game.

Just too many weapons.

And like Steele, I DON’T see SC or UF’s offense doing as well as Georgia’s in 2010.

GT SUCKS

August 2nd, 2010
2:42 pm

Georgia Tech remember when you choked against Georgia last year…..i do

tim

August 2nd, 2010
2:42 pm

yadda, yadda , yadda….the Gators will kick your ass again this year by 24 or more…you ladies talk the same ols BS every year this time..by the end of Sept the puppies will be out of the SEC East race with 2 losses….Spurrier will eat you alive this year..book it

Barack Dawg

August 2nd, 2010
2:45 pm

Atlanta Jacket – like Tech knows anything about a good QB. Nesbitt learned how to throw yet. Is Reggie Ball GaTerds QB Coach? Has he figured out how to count to 4?

The QB is not your problem anyway – you remember the 360 yards of ball ran down your throat. You need to worry about Ealey and King not Murray. If Murray executes and does play well, that is going to make it even worse for you guys….

Hunker Down

August 2nd, 2010
2:51 pm

Great article and format to follow MR CF. Hear so much on John Brantley and his rifle for an arm that I am looking forward to watching them play this year and see how he compares to TT. Tony is dead on that Dawg fans need to hope and pray that Murray stays healthy. Can’t wait til kick off. Go Dawgs!

GaTerds

August 2nd, 2010
2:53 pm

UGAY in the Papa Johns Bowl – boy you sure are smart. Bet you have a pretty mouth on you too.

Is that the same division where the winner went to the Orange Bowl and got their ass kicked by Iowa?

Is that the same division where the winner lost the week before to an 8 – 5 UGA team?

Is that the same conference where the other division winner lost to USC in the last game?

Yeah boy – we look scared don’t we…..

wut

August 2nd, 2010
2:53 pm

whats a laptop math attack?

Brantley's Backup

August 2nd, 2010
2:54 pm

I sure as hell hope Brantley does not get hurt….I don’t even have a play book. Coach Meyer said I was just responsible for getting his Rolaids and heart pills.

Saban

August 2nd, 2010
2:55 pm

tim – blah blah blah…I will kick your ass again this year….same old same old….book it.

GaTerds

August 2nd, 2010
2:58 pm

Dawgtards ruin this state – has anyone in the SEC needed a QB to beat GaTerds and you yellow insects? The last SEC game I saw involved your defense choking on all the dust from Ealey and King. Maybe you will be lucky and go to the BCS and play one of the weak SEC teams you are so quick to spank on.

[...] Tony Barnhart breaks down the SEC East Quarterbacks and had this to say about Murray: Murray, the redshirt freshman from Tampa, is the guy. And, like David Greene in 2001, he’s going to be surrounded by a lot of really good players. There is a veteran offensive line, one of the top three receivers in all of college football (A.J. Green), and what should be a very good running game with Caleb King and Washaun Ealey. I’ve heard from more than one SEC coach outside of Georgia that this kid has all the intangibles to be a great player. And you have to say that Mark Richt and Mike Bobo know how to coach the position. Georgia’s offensive line has to take it as a challenge to keep Murray’s uniform clean. He has to stay vertical and he can’t get hurt. Let me repeat that: HE CAN’T GET HURT! [...]

Ray

August 2nd, 2010
3:34 pm

Murray can’t get hurt?

Georgia will be more than fine at QB, regardless of which of the 3 superstars win the job.

Mason will be ready to go if called upon, and will light it up.

Gray can step right in if needed.

Of all the positions on Georgia’s team, QB is the one I feel the best about, just 3 amazing QB’s, all 3 ready to go and can outduel anybody in the country.

gt

August 2nd, 2010
3:57 pm

Why is it so hard to say South Carolina is going to be good this year. I think we should have a week of predictions from previous years, especially on Georgia. You will see a pattern.

SSIgator

August 2nd, 2010
4:08 pm

“And you have to say that Mark Richt and Mike Bobo know how to coach the position.”

Really? Do they plan on sharing that knowledge among the players finally this year?

corkylikesbeer

August 2nd, 2010
4:11 pm

Dawgs have great team chemistry…you can’t spell sugar without uga…uga will rise to the top….cream always rises to the top…….go dawgs!

Ray

August 2nd, 2010
4:14 pm

Geez Tony, not sure where this comment came from:

Georgia’s Options after Murray are limited and scary?

Really?

Logan Gray, Elite 11 QB is a “limited & scary” option? Logan beat out Murray over the 3 Spring scrimmages in the stats.

Hutson Mason, who threw for 4500 yards, and 55 td’s his Senior Year, 1 of 7 QB’s named to Parade All American, ESPN #21 ranked QB is a “limited & SCARY” option? Mason completes over 70% of his passes and had a 11 to 1 TD to int ratio. He’s 6′ 3”, and broke every offensive passing record in the state of Georgia. Took Lassiter further than any QB in the history of the school.

Mason–73% accuracy, 11 to 1 td to int ratio, 55 td’s, 4500 yards.

Doug

August 2nd, 2010
4:17 pm

Not sure how Tony feels optimistic about Brantley, when Brantley has little more experience than either Gray, Murray or Mason. None of these guys have more than potential. All are unproven & untested. To put Brantley above any of Georgia’s QB’s, is PURELY HYPOTHETICAL, and not based on RATIONAL THOUGHT.

BirdDog

August 2nd, 2010
4:20 pm

You Tech turds should really not comment about football since you don’t know jack. You losers say that this is a weak lineup of QB’s. Brantley, Murray and Garcia were all 3 of the most recruited kids in the nation at their respective positions and Morgan was the Indiana high school player of the year. I think that is quite a bit of talent there.

Randy

August 2nd, 2010
4:22 pm

Brantley’s O-Line is MUCH less experienced than Georgia’s.

Brantley WILL HAVE much worse PROTECTION and is MUCH more apt to get injured than Murray.

Tebow gave up 30 sacks in 2009, and Tebow had a better O-Line and was mobile.

Brantley, without a running game, without any experienced receivers to throw to, will be a SITTING DUCK back there for opposing SEC defenses.

Looking forward to watching Bama, LSU & Georgia’s defenses get after Brantley.

They’re going to light him up.

Lo Down

August 2nd, 2010
4:26 pm

Murray had 55 scholarship offers.

To put the word “Brantley” in the same sentence as “Murray”, is a deep misunderstanding of the difference between these 2 QB’s.

Murray played for Powerhouse Plant High, toughest division in Florida, excelled, won a state championship.

Brantley played for div 2B high school, excelled against weak competition, but wasn’t offered anywhere near 55 scholarships, or didn’t put up anywhere near Murray’s td’s or total offense yardage.

Brantley, to put it kindly, can’t hold Aaron Murray’s chinstrap.

bob

August 2nd, 2010
4:28 pm

Garcia is the only proven product. The rest of the article is just fantasy football.

KR

August 2nd, 2010
4:40 pm

It’s a pre-season list; don’t put too much stock in it The more important lists will surface at mid season and again at the end of the season..

For now, I can’t really argue with Tony’s pick of Garcia at the top. He has the most relevant SEC experience of the group and he has multiple seasons of college level coaching under his belt. The knock on Garcia has always been his mind, not his physical talent. It won’t take long to figure out if he’s learned anything for this season.

It looks to me like UF, UGA and UT are all going with quarterbacks who have never started at the college level. That puts them at the bottom of the heap until they get some game time where they can show what they’ve got.

The “in-betweeners” are just that, in-between. You can stack them any way you like and it won’t make that much difference.

[...] Aaron on Aug.02, 2010, under News Tony Barnhart (a.k.a. “Mr. College Football) ranks the SEC QB’s and the Cats come in at ….  Barnhart likes the potential of Morgan Newton, but feels Mike Hartline will be the starter.  [...]

BG

August 2nd, 2010
4:52 pm

UGA and UF are both going to have 1st year starters at QB.

Dear Lo Down...

August 2nd, 2010
4:53 pm

Don’t go selling Brantley short. Brantley verbally committed to Texas, so the offers stopped coming. Family pressure changed his mind as his father and uncle both played for the Gators. Division 2 schools in Florida play great football and place many players in Div 1 programs. Brantley will be a good QB for the Gators. Keep in mind that Florida, Texas, SoCal, Ohio State, get their picks of the best of the best ranked players and then the next level of schools go after the rest of the highly ranked recruits. Murray and Charles were exceptions to the rule, be glad that we somehow got them. Brantley should be just fine, so no reason to jamming him with insults. Until the DAWGS beat the Gators where it counts,on the field, they are holding all the cards and bragging rights.

Gen Neyland

August 2nd, 2010
4:59 pm

Garcia as the ace of the East..? How far have we of the East fallen..? In a nutshell, whoever has the best supporting cast surrounding these QB’s on all sides of the ball may eek out the Divisional Championship in the East. Kentucky might slip up and do something in 2010. If it’s in ‘em and the Joker’s wild, this could be the year of strange.

dr. steve brule

August 2nd, 2010
5:01 pm

for your health!

[...] [Breaking Down The Quarterbacks: SEC East] [...]

I am not going to be the head coach at Alabama. I am the head coach of the Miami Dolphins.

August 2nd, 2010
5:05 pm

Geez… Is Garcia really the best QB in the SEC East? Tell me I misread that. With a newbie at UGA, an untested one at UF, and questions at the other 3, I suppose that’s the case.

Looking forward to kickoff. Go Dawgs

GATA

UGASlobberknocker

August 2nd, 2010
5:06 pm

To “Who cares”..you must care..you are on the blog arent you? and if you dont care about the SEC you must not care about college football, so go watch the inferior ACC. Who knows? A basketball game may break out.

UGASlobberknocker

August 2nd, 2010
5:07 pm

Is Florida’s QB the son or other relation to the former Gator Scott Brantley? That guy was a player.

UGASlobberknocker

August 2nd, 2010
5:11 pm

Ray..those QB numbers are nice, but if you dont think a Murray injury would be catastrophic, you are delusional. Gray’s stats cane in a small division of inferior Missouri HS football. Mason got his nubers in the weakest 5A region, Cobb’s (my home county)..TJ Yeates is better than Mason and TJ is a plodder at best at UNC.

Graybearded

August 2nd, 2010
5:15 pm

Whoa. Tony disagreeing about Murray with:

Scout, Rivals, Richt, Colt McCoy, Phil Steele, Athlon, etc.

Tony, I totally think you TOTALLY missed this one.

Murray’s more TESTED than Brantley against top level competition.

You will see why all the above are so high on ‘tested’ & ‘experienced’ Aaron Murray, and less enthused about Florida’s ‘untested’ & ‘inexperienced’ QB John Brantley.

Murray’s BATTLE TESTED, Brantley’s an unknown.

No one’s EVER seen Brantley start a single game, in high school, or college, against top level competition.

CHDawg

August 2nd, 2010
5:17 pm

Tony,
Let’s see; last year we had Joe Cox, with Gray as the back-up, and this year we have Murray with Gray as the back-up. Gray is athletic and he didn’t look terrible in the GDay. I don’t see how we are worse off than last year if the QB goes down; we’ll be fine. I think Murray is going to be a great QB, so compared to a great starter, Gray would be weaker. But, Murray and great have yet to link up in Red and Black. For all the Brantley naysayers, I would reconsider–he is likely a good pro prospect. Florida could easily be in the BCS again this year…I’m hopeful the Dawgs will be there instead.

Jeff

August 2nd, 2010
5:17 pm

ok…so explain to me again how Brantley is #2??? OH…that’s right..How stupid of me….because its Florida. Cant wait to see your article after they lose a few games…you so called Florida bedwarmers will be jumping out of bed with them real quick…..

UK Wildcats#1

August 2nd, 2010
5:33 pm

If Garcia is the best QB in the East….we have a piss poor group of QB’s as a whole. We’ll see about Murray. Newton will impress as the season goes on. Too versatile not to.

Beast from the East

August 2nd, 2010
5:33 pm

Why is it so hard to believe that Brantey will be a good qb at UF? He’s just not had the opportunity to play much because of Tebow. He’s got all of the physical tools and he’s been in the program for 3 years. I’m sure he’ll make some mistakes, but what qb doesn’t?
I just don’t get the delusional Dawgs saying that Brantley will flop but Murray will be the next Drew Brees. He’s never even taken a single snap in a college game. He may be the next Drew Brees….he may be the next Joe Cox. No one knows until he actually sees the field.

J Dog

August 2nd, 2010
5:35 pm

Oh yes guys. Mark Bradley, a journalist at AJC, wrote that Tech’s QB was ‘MVP of the NCAA’ with the #119 ranked accuracy, passing yards, td’s, etc???????

No we find out, that Tony thinks John Brantley is more advanced than Aaron Murray??????

Huh? You’ve got to be kidding me?

tim

August 2nd, 2010
5:38 pm

Brantley=Gatorade National Player of the Year. Brantley=holds most QB records in the state of FL………Gators=the team that beats UGA most every year like a rented mule , and this year will be more of the same.

UGADawg83

August 2nd, 2010
5:43 pm

Look I don’t know how well Murray will do and neither does anyone else. What I’m finding hilarious is the offense taken by all these Gators seeing anyone but their precious QB being ranked number one. For crying out loud the guy has never had the responsibility of being the starting QB. Gators you are not entitled to anything.

Bud

August 2nd, 2010
5:46 pm

How anyone could rate the QB situation at Georgia, in 2010, as WORSE, than the QB situation at Florida?

Georgia gave up just 11 sacks last season and has every O-Lineman back, and #1 MOST experienced O-Line in college football with 155 starts. 2 best backs in SEC over last 5 games in Ealey & King getting 247 yards a game rushing. Best WR in nation in AJ Green and best TE in nation in Olson.

The weapons AROUND Murray are VAST compared to the LITTLE EXPERIENCED weapons around Brantley at O-Line, No experience at WR or TE, QB, and running backs who can’t pass block (gave up over 30 sacks in 2009) and are prone to fumble when Meyer calls running plays.

How will Brantley complete passes when:
1) he won’t have time to throw due to inexperienced or poor pass blocking?
2) no experience at wr to throw to?
3) no experience at te to throw to?
4) no experience in his entire career facing top talent in a real game?
5) his rb’s fumble so much that Meyer only calls 4 plays for his RB’s in the SEC Championship?

Hans

August 2nd, 2010
5:52 pm

ESPN gave pollsters 15 choices to rank college QB’s.

Fans voted Brantley LAST place among the 15 choices.

Brantley will be a complete disaster.

http://espn.go.com/sportsnation/rank?versionId=2&listId=631#topOfList

Beast from the East

August 2nd, 2010
5:59 pm

Hans,
The 15th place ranking wouldn’t have anything to do with him being the only first year starter would it? Nah, that couldn’t possinly be it.
I’m sure he’ll be a “complete disaster” as you predict. UF may as well go ahead and terminate the football program beacuse Tebow is gone and Drew Brees is at UGA.
You guys are a riot!

Colin

August 2nd, 2010
6:01 pm

Does anyone know of a single QB that ever won Gatorade Player of the Year, like Brantley did, who went on to win a National Championship?

Beast from the East

August 2nd, 2010
6:06 pm

Colin,
Not sure about that, but there have been some great ones that played in the SEC including Peyton Manning and Emmitt Smith. There have also been some busts.

Pete

August 2nd, 2010
6:34 pm

Maybe Tony’s right.

What if Brantley’s better than anyone in the history of college football?

I guess anything’s possible.

TampaGator

August 2nd, 2010
7:50 pm

Hans…are you a little dense???….the fact that Brantley was put into the top 15 QB poll means ESPN poll makers think he will be one of the 15 best QBs in the nation…not one of the worst. Duh!!! Your QB didn’t even make the list…what does that say about him? And the results of that vote is a popularity contest and nothing scientific…duh!!!

BIGBLUEBOY

August 2nd, 2010
8:04 pm

I GONNA TELL YOU GUYS NOW, AND YOU REMEMBER WERE YOU HEARD IT FIRST. THE KENTUCKY WILDCATS WILL FINISH 9-3, 5-3 (in the sec). THAT’S RIGHT 9-3!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THE CATS HAVE MULTIPLE WEAPONS ON OFFENSE AND ALOT OF SPEED ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE BALL. SENIOR MIKE HARTLINE WHO WAS PLAYING HIS BEST BALL BEFORE THE MID-SEASON INJURY LAST FALL WILL BE THE STARTER AT QB. I SEE BIG WINS AT HOME AGAINST AUBURN AND GEORGIA, TWO TEAMS THE CATS BEAT ON THE ROAD LAST SEASON, I ALSO THINK THE CATS WILL FINALLY BEAT THE OL’ BALL COACH. (SOUTH CAROLINA) I SEE LOSSES AT FLORDIA, AT OLE MISS, AND OF COURSE IN KNOXSVILLE NO MATTER HOW TERRIBLE THE VOLS WILL BE. CAPITOL ONE BOWL OR GATOR BOWL IS MY CALL.

RANDELL COBB

August 2nd, 2010
8:06 pm

CATCH ME IF YOU CAN, BEST ALL-AROUND PLAYER IN SEC,,,,,,,,, IS ME!!!!!!

JOKER PHILLPS

August 2nd, 2010
8:07 pm

OPERATION WIN…………….. GO BIG BLUE

Beast from the East

August 2nd, 2010
8:11 pm

Big Blue Boy,
Nice to hear from a Wildcat. Don’t see too many of them on here. Could be anyone from the East this year, with the exception of Vandy.

FYI

August 2nd, 2010
8:33 pm

Bud….

Florida’s OL is ranked 2nd best behind Georgia in the SEC (4, experienced starters returning)….right behind Georgia and with the preseason Rimington favorite at center in Mike Pouncey.

Yes…Florida is inexperienced at center….but I feel just fine with Deonte Thompson, Carl Moore, Omaris Hines, Andre Debose, Chris Dunkley, Solomon Patten, Stephen Ali and others. Lots of talent and even more speed…with a QB who can really throw it accurately…both short and far.

And the only Florida RB that I can remember fumbling last year that will be playing RB this year is Emmanuel Moody…and he fumbled once….and got scolding to the bench for it. Demps never fumbled last year and neither did Gillislee, who are 1 and 2 at RB. If Mack Brown is a fumbler, he won’t see the field in Meyer’s offense. You simply can’t be a fumbler and play for Meyer…so get some information before you make wild statements about fumbling Gator RBs.

FYI

August 2nd, 2010
8:34 pm

that should be….”Yes…Florida is inexperienced at wide receiver……in the previous post.

Ga boy

August 2nd, 2010
8:37 pm

Mikey in SAV Yes he will wear the glove- and he will also moon walk from the sideline to the huddle.

superDawg

August 2nd, 2010
8:39 pm

He called Murray ROBOT I hope he is the first wheel to get the ball matriculated into the endZone.

Paul in RDU

August 2nd, 2010
8:39 pm

Gatorade Players of the Year who have won an NC
Matt Leinert (2001-01)
Chris Leak (2001-02)
JaMarcus Russell (2002-03)
for starters

superDawg

August 2nd, 2010
8:40 pm

How was that macroid.

TampaGator

August 2nd, 2010
8:49 pm

Graybearded….obviously you have no idea about the kind of teams and players Brantley played against in high school in Florida (Ocala and the surrounding areas)….if you did….you would understand how silly your post is.

Doo dah- Doo dah

August 2nd, 2010
8:56 pm

Well I am convinced. After hearing all the smoke that you Dawg and Gator fans are blowing. it is apparent that the winner in Jax this year will be number 1 in the nation with the loser being relegated to runner up. I guess those 10 other SEC teams will have to just mail their seasons in.

tim

August 2nd, 2010
9:00 pm

TampaGator you are absolutely correct….the puppy bloggers here are re-hashing the same old uga crap…particularly when they talk about the UF O-line. One thing is for certain..the dog D won’t get to Brantley, but if Murray is playing in Jax he’ll be on his back several times. These uga rah rah boys will be silent after Spurrier wins by 13

Hoss

August 2nd, 2010
9:15 pm

Let’s compare Offensive Supporting casts Phil Steele National Rankings:
1) O-Line:
UGA- #1
UF- #4
2) Receiver’s:
UGA- #2
UF- #29
3) Running Backs:
UGA: #5
UF: #13
4) Fullbacks:
UGA: #10
UF: Not ranked
5) Tight Ends:
UGA: #20
UF: Not ranked

Hoss

August 2nd, 2010
9:17 pm

Phil SteelE’s National Rankings for Scoring Offenses:
uga- #7
uf- not ranked

Hoss

August 2nd, 2010
9:19 pm

Phil Steele’s 2010 Strength of Schedule Ranking;

Who has the hardest schedule?
SC- #2
LSU- #10
Bama- #15
Aub- #19
UF- #18
UGA- #44

Colin

August 2nd, 2010
9:25 pm

Paul in RDU-

According to my research, not a single National Gatorade Player of the Year has ever won a National Championship

Matt Leinert (2001-01) Chris Leak (2001-02) JaMarcus Russell (2002-03)?

None of these guys you listed won National Gatorade Player of the Year like Brantley.

SCboy

August 2nd, 2010
9:27 pm

Lakatos? He didn’t do squat against USC. They dropped 12 balls-well documented. He’s just Grantham’s buddy. USC’s tall receivers are going to eat UGA’s lunch. Spurrier’s little psychological ploy on Garcia worked. He’s ready. Next subject.

LENNY

August 2nd, 2010
9:38 pm

Actually, Lakatos DB’s at UCONN finished top 10 in pass effeiciency several years, and he had some guys go NFL too. And yep, his guys hit SC’s receivers so hard, they got alligator arms, and started missing balls. Lakatos destroyed South Carolina, played them FAR better than Florida did. Spurrier and Garcia couldn’t do jack against Lakatos.

LENNY

August 2nd, 2010
9:48 pm

Brantley & Garcia will have their hands full trying to complete passes against Lakatos’ secondary.

Lakatos pass defense at UCONN was better than Saban’s in 2008:

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/ncaa/stats/2008/divia/team/passing_efficiency_defense_byRATING.html

LENNY

August 2nd, 2010
9:50 pm

Lakotas shut down South Carlolina when Florida couldn’t.

Let’s compare how South Carolina did against Florida vs. Conn.

Against Florida: (with all those “top recruits”—ha)
53% completion rate, 186 yards, 1 td, 100 QB rating

Against UCONN: (with no “top recruits”—ha)
42% completion rate, 129 yards, o td, 65 QB rating

DAWGINDC

August 2nd, 2010
10:02 pm

Garcia ahead of Brantley? gosh, seriously TB, I don’t know how I can take your seriously anymore. Brantley is in a totally different league than garcia..it should be more like, 1. brantley, 2. murray, 3. garcia…

Jake

August 2nd, 2010
10:11 pm

Brantley played against 2b level competition in High School for tiny Trinity Catholic.

Murray played QB for 5AAAAA Plant High.

Joe Cox

August 2nd, 2010
10:16 pm

All I can say is that Aaron Murray couldn’t beat me out last year. Nor was he the starting quarterback until one bad night in Valdosta.

Florida Bench

August 2nd, 2010
10:25 pm

Hey, all I can say is Florida’s QB Bentley warms the bench better than anyone.

Freddie

August 2nd, 2010
10:27 pm

You guys, Tony is right.

Brantley played great……..

against Charleston Southern & Florida International!

Gen Neyland

August 2nd, 2010
10:47 pm

Florida Bench: If the Gators have a Bentley, who has the Rolls..? Oh, and Braves win with a Hudson.

Pete

August 2nd, 2010
11:43 pm

For Tony’s rankings to make sense, a person would have to think that:

1- Brantley scoring less td’s than Murray in high school is better

2- Brantley going for less total yards than murray in high school is better

3- Brantley’s experience at a 2b division high school makes Barantley more tested than Murray’s experience at a 5AAAAA High school

4- Brantley’s O-Line, RB’s, WR’s, TE’s, Fullback’s all ranking WORSE than Georgia, is better

I don’t buy it.

Paul in RDU

August 3rd, 2010
12:49 am

Colin – Gatorade has a POY for every state.

http://playeroftheyear.gatorade.com/about/overview/
Leinert, Leak and Russell are all listed.

What???

August 3rd, 2010
1:12 am

Pete
You really think that your running backs are better than Demps, Gillislee, Moody, Brown. Sorry. Demps is second team all-SEC. Your RBs are nowhere in to be seen in that company. I will take Demps over both your running backs no question. Florida’s OL is one of the best in the country along with Georgia. How is that a negative dude? Let’s see at the end who has the better receivers. my bet is on Florida. At TE you haven’t heard of Jordan Reed and Gerald Christian yet but you will. Florida uses a FB to block. Pridemore and Wilks do that just fine.

You better start buying it.

What???

August 3rd, 2010
1:17 am

Why does Jake, Pete, Lenny keep posting under different names as the same person and (he/she/it/thing/) makes the same idiotic posts over and over again about Murray being better than Brantley. Gosh man give it up. We know you are in love with Murray. He is your man child.

SC Boy

August 3rd, 2010
6:33 am

Lakatos only defense was 25 degrees and no OL coach. He was very lucky because the SC receivers were open all day. Dropsies. Well known.

BuLLdawg

August 3rd, 2010
6:33 am

Tony Blowhart

How can you rank Aaron Murray the 3rd best Quarterback in The SEC East ? He never took a snap under Center in his lifetime. He got injured in high school by a 5 feet 7 inches tall 169 lbs linebacker because Aaron is only 4.7 speed and because even a guy this small can break his leg and ankle on the play still trying to get the ball off like he did all Spring. Speaking of Spring, even though Logan Gray held Coach Richt hostage to let him split the time at # 1 QB, now he is not even in the QB meetings and Aaron didn’t get to practice enough in the Spring. Last Fall, he missed 21 practices because the offensive coaching staff let him throw his arm out. So, here we have a guy who has been out-performed by every QB in all the Spring Practices, and he is the QB not prepared at all, just as we did not prepare our QB last year 2009 and just as we did not prepare our QB in 2006. Aaron Murray is not the 3rd best QB in The SEC East until he is the 3rd best QB in The SEC East. You just cannot come in here and proclaim he is. You don’t know Tony Blowhart.

Jake

August 3rd, 2010
7:30 am

I like that,,, “beat on him like a rented mule”. That’s a good one.

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Colin

August 3rd, 2010
8:59 am

Not 1 single solitary National Gatorade High School Football Player of the Year, which is the award Brantley wn, has EVER gone on to win a National Championship in college football in the 25 history of the award.

The 0-25 record will not be broken in 2010 with John Brantley.

In fact, very few even went on to be decent players in college.

Paul ( You doesn't have to call me Johnson)

August 3rd, 2010
9:11 am

This may be Spurrier’s best team at South Carolina but their schedule is brutal. If they beat Georgia at home it will help but still will not get them to any higher than 3rd in the SEC East

gatorbadboy

August 3rd, 2010
2:00 pm

Wow, some of the stupidity here is unbelieveable…

One poster comments that Tebow was not good in his first year as a starter…right, he only did something never done before in CFB (30 passing and 20 rushing TD’s) and oh by the way, won a little thing called the Heisman trophy as a true sophomore for the first time in history.

Ranking guys pre season means little, as no one knows what things will happen, who gets injured in fall camps, whatever, but to say that you know Brantley is going to flop, and Murray will be all world makes some of you look worse than stupid. Brantley has been in a CFB program for 3 years now. He has played in game situations, and understands the speed of the game. Murray has seen none of this, and no one knows how he will react. UGA has a very good supporting cast to help Murray, but Brantley is not without talent around him. UGA has a better #1 WR, but after that they have little in the way of proven guys. Saying UF has no experienced WR’s? Thompson started all 14 games last year, Carl Moore started like 8 the previous year (took injury RS last year) and is back to full health. Does UF have to have a couple of other guys step up-sure. To say they won’t is as dumb as me saying I know they will. What I will say is that UF has done pretty decent with WR’s the past few years, and these guys whom Meyer & co recruited, are not slouches by any means. Thompson’s talent should benefit by more of a downfield passing game, which Brantley is better at than Tebow was. TE will be a work in progress. RB’s are basically all back from last year. Some of you act as if no UF back other than Tebow ever ran the ball, when in fact the RB’ s had more carries and more yards if you just look at the top 2, never mind guys like Gillislee who only got mop up duty.

The biggest laugh I get is at the fans trumpeting about UGA having 3 star QB’s. Murray has potential I will grant you, but he was in an all out battle just to win the job. Gray would have been the 3rd option hat Mettenberger not been booted, so don’t give me some song about him being an elite 11 QB. That means nothing as after 3+ years he has developed zero as a QB. Your other guy is a true FR who has never even seen a game up close, much less prepared for the speed of it. If not for lack of depth, it is a guarantee he would be RS this year, but they can’t afford to do so in case Murray goes down. Being an elite level HS QB means little. There are tons of those guys who become afterthoughts. Just because you play in a big division in HS like Murray did, does not mean you competition level is great. Big divisions have plenty of schools that suck too. Many people in FL who watched them play, believed Murray was partly a product of the system at Plant. That same sytem produced Robert Marve, who many thought was far better, but he has yet to prove anything either. Xavier Lee was a cn’t miss prospect from Daytona who could not get on the field at FSU. Joe Cox at one time was a starter above Matthew Stafford. LSU has about 3 guys on the roster right now who were all thought to be can’t miss guys and not one of them has shown they can be anything above mediocre. Pre-season predictions are worth nothing.

Flo-Ri-Duh!

August 3rd, 2010
2:13 pm

Put the heat on Garcia and he will throw it up for grabs….. another Joe Cox but bigger and he can run.

Atticus

August 3rd, 2010
2:21 pm

What did Stephen Garcia do against the good teams and in the bowl? Yeah, I thought so.

WestOfAthens

August 3rd, 2010
6:21 pm

Why do you despise th Bulldogs so much Mr. Barnhart?

Even last year, all we heard out of Florida was a kid named “Brantley”
OK, so what if he has mopped up, what lies behind Brantley? The same, a lot of inexperience. Down year for the SEC powers via QB’s.

Shame on you to single out, given the porous facts. Shame on you

Nashville Vol

August 4th, 2010
9:52 am

From what I’m reading we will be pretty green on the O-line but Juwan James and James Stone are two freshmen that are skilled and can learn quick. I agree that Simms must be our guy even though he made some mistakes in the spring game. I’m looking forward to the season. Go Vols!

Slamiejate

August 4th, 2010
8:35 pm

“And the hits just keep coming. Even Mr College Football has low expectations of Tennessee in 2010. So I’ll go ahead and post this…The Vols will ruin at least 3 teams’ seasons this fall. The most likely suspects: Oregon, Georgia, and South Carolina.”

Agreed.

obama sin laden

August 7th, 2010
12:31 pm

south cakalaka fans are loud until half time. I know cuz I been there. ga by 21.

johnny

August 8th, 2010
12:01 pm

I’ll be really interested to see if Simms can make a go of it. I watched him play HS ball here in NJ seriously thought if not for his famous dad he wouldn’t have been a major recruit. After a couple of years of L’vlle and a year at JUCO maybe his delivery is better and I hope he has matured. But, I expect a long year for Tenn.

justin.

August 11th, 2010
5:29 pm

USC will beat UGA 24-10 bank on it.

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