We need a whole new way of thinking on the agent issue

Hoover, Ala.—Here is how fast the sport of college football now moves. A few days ago Mike Slive was working on a first draft of his annual opening remarks for SEC Football Media Days.  Slive uses the opportunity to talk about the accomplishments of the conference in the past academic year and to lay out the challenges that are still before it.

There wasn’t a word about agents included in that draft.

By the time he actually delivered that message on Wednesday at the Wynfrey Hotel, the SEC commissioner had a lot to say about the current relationship between elite athletes and agents who do not play by the rules.

When Slive spoke at about 1:30 p.m. the SEC schools who were being questioned by the NCAA had grown to three: Alabama, Florida and South Carolina. Before dinner time Georgia revealed that it had heard from the NCAA which wants to come on campus and ask questions. Three of the four schools face the possibility that key players could miss games this season. A fourth, Florida, is investigating whether or not a former player, Maurkice Pouncey, took cash from an agent before his last game. If true, Florida could see its Sugar Bowl win over Cincinnati vacated.

“The world moves pretty fast, doesn’t it?” Slive told me when we talked late in the day.

Keep in mind that there is a process at work and that the players could be cleared and miss no games.  They could pay the money back and miss some games. They could be neck deep in this and be banned for the season. At this point nobody knows.

Florida coach Urban Meyer was not happy about the reports that Pouncey, a first-round draft choice of the Pittsburgh Steelers, may have received $100,000 from an agent before the Sugar Bowl. He called such agents “predators who take eligibility away from kids and that’s not right.”

Alabama coach Nick Saban was even stronger in his assessment of bad agents. A story surfaced that defensive end Marcel Dareus, perhaps the best NFL Draft prospect in Tuscaloosa, had attended a now famous party given by an agent or someone representing an agent down in South Florida. If Dareus received his travel expenses and other gifts from an agent to attend that party, that is a violation of NCAA rules.

“I believe that athletes should be held accountable because they know what the rules are,” Saban said. “But the agents who do this have to be accountable as well. And it’s time that we got some help from the NFL to hold them accountable.”

Saban implied that he would not be beyond cutting back or cutting off access to NFL scouts if the league won’t help. Meyer said he would have to study it but was inclined to listen to Saban’s idea. They want the NFL Players Association to determine that if an agent breaks the rules and it costs a player some eligibility, that agent must be held accountable in some way.

Now it’s easy to bring out the age-old argument: “The coaches make a lot of money, the school makes a lot of money, the kids see this and want their share now because they don’t think it’s fair.” The statements in that argument are all accurate but it doesn’t get us anywhere because college athletes are not going to get paid. You know it and I know it.

 We can rail about the hypocrisy of the system, which has been going on for several generations, or we can try to find a 21st accommodation. Notice that I didn’t say solution. There is not a solution to this problem but there are better, more innovative ways of dealing with it.

The coaches give us the righteous indignation, which is the red meat for an angry fan base. And that’s fine. But I would listen to Slive, a former attorney and district court judge. Slive told me he has looked the issue, which has been with us for a long time in many different forms. He’s decided that the time has come to quit working on the margins of the issue. It’s time, he said, for a complete paradigm shift of how schools handle elite athletes who want a future playing professional sports.

Slive believes that when faced with this kind of problem, the solution is not to try and lock down the athletes and prohibit any kind of contact with agents or NFL scouts. He believes the exact opposite should be true.

“If we had a student who was a great violinist and wanted to join a symphony and become a professional musician, there are all kinds of things the school could do to help make that happen,” said Slive. “I think the NCAA rules on this issue are as much as part of the problem as they are the solution. Instead of shutting things down for these student-athletes, we need to open up the system and give them greater access to it. We need to take the mystery out of it.”

The current rules, which limit how much contact athletes can have with agents, essentially sets up a secondary market for agents who will break the rules hoping to get a competitive edge over the more established agents.

“What we need to do is get out of the model that based on enforcement and adopt a model that’s based on assistance,” he said.  “We’re supposed to be helping these kids.”

Slive can’t say this publicly but I will. The current NCAA model on agents and athletes is like prohibition was to people and booze. It created a black market for the stuff where all kinds of mischief would inevitably take place. Prohibition didn’t work so the rules had to change. We have the same set of issues with the agent problem.

There is another facet to this issue that people don’t like to talk about. At the end of the day, the athletes really don’t trust the adults who are running the system. The adults say they working with the best interests of the athletes involved. I think most athletes believe that the adults are looking out for their employer first. So when somebody comes along and points out that you, young football star, are putting money in all of these people’s pockets and you aren’t getting squat, it becomes a pretty compelling argument. I’m not sure I could resist it at the age of 19 or 20.

The answer is to give the legitimate agents—and there are so many good ones out there—GREATER access and to give the student-athlete with pro potential a clearly defined road map on how to get there and also get the most out of his college experience.

 It’s one thing for somebody who works for the university to tell an athlete he shouldn’t break the rules. The athlete can look at that adult and say to himself: “You just want me on the field to help you win.”

But it is another thing entirely to hear an established agent tell a player over and over: “Don’t break the rules because it makes the NFL question your character and that will cost you money. Here is how you handle it.”

All I know is that at Wednesday’s SEC Media Days, Urban Meyer, Nick Saban, and Mike Slive all said they wanted change and were willing to work at it. That probably means that something will get done.

So what’s the next step? Should schools respond to this by locking down their players and giving no access to the NFL or agents? Or should they go in the totally opposite direction: Throw open the system and take the mystery out of it? Give these kids all the information and access they need?

Would there still be problems? Of course. As long as there is a poor kid and somebody flashing cash, women, cars, parties, etc., this is going to happen. What we’re discussing here is a new way of thinking to manage the issue because what college football is doing now, in the 21st Century, is clearly not working.

 

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Programming note: Our  “Talkin’ Football” second day coverage of SEC Media Days will be shown tonight at 6 p.m. on CSS. Today’s coaches’ interviews include Mark Richt, Bobby Petrino, Steve Spurrier and new Vanderbilt coach Robbie Caldwell. Check us out!

136 comments Add your comment

Chi Town

July 22nd, 2010
3:25 pm

What’s that coming down the track?
The NCAA in Red and Black.
Ain’t nothing finer in the land,
than a drunk,fat,redneck obnoxious Jawja fan!

Go Dawgs, Sic ‘em! Woof Woof Woof!
2010 is our year!!!!!

Damon Evans

July 22nd, 2010
3:27 pm

Now dat I am in the witness protection progm, I’m snitchin on UGA till the day I die.

“No snitchin” ain’t in effect in Gainesville.

I told y’all there would be hell to pay for how you treated me.

Now look at you. huh.

UGAY in the Papa Johns Bowl

July 22nd, 2010
3:51 pm

UGAY in the Papa Johns Bowl

July 22nd, 2010
3:54 pm

hey, how about this……UGA SUCKS, YALL ARE THE NEW MIAMI, 1980, ZACK METTENBERGER, 9 OFF-SEASON ARRESTS, RED PANTIES ARE FALLING FROM THE SKY, LOSE TO KENTUCKY, KILLED BY TENN. 17 OUT OF 20 IN FAVOR OF FLA. AND NOW YOUR GOLDEN BOY AJ IS GOING TO BE SUSPENDED……TYPICAL JIGGA BOO GEORGIA!

Atlanta Jackets

July 22nd, 2010
4:06 pm

UGAY in Papa Bowl, I have no idea what all that means, but I love it! Put the mutts in their place! LOL! ROTFLMAO!!

Keep going!

And to the guy that asked about R. Hueston, I think he was found not guilty if I recall. So shut your cake eating hole!!

THWG!!

jj

July 22nd, 2010
4:10 pm

someone told me there is no difference between bamas situation etc with that os usc…bull s#%$ its agents giving money and players taking something they shouldnt its a violation my point is and everybody be objective bama fans are now in a tizzy about it because it directly affects them thats all i want those fans to admit…admit they were thrilled when usc got nailed and now its them they hate it

mike mooney,joe hamilton,reuben houston,robert hall,8outof9,nerdsnerdsnerds

July 22nd, 2010
4:29 pm

david

July 22nd, 2010
4:29 pm

NCAA exists to benefit the NCAA. Period. The athletes are exploited. Period. Don’t give me bull about a free education.

mike mooney,joe hamilton,reuben houston,robert hall,8outof9,nerdsnerdsnerds

July 22nd, 2010
4:30 pm

Anyone who calls Georgia “UGAY” is a virgin.

mike mooney,joe hamilton,reuben houston,robert hall,8outof9,nerdsnerdsnerds

July 22nd, 2010
4:30 pm

or dates blow up dolls

mike mooney,joe hamilton,reuben houston,robert hall,8outof9,nerdsnerdsnerds

July 22nd, 2010
4:31 pm

or lives with his mother in the basement

mike mooney,joe hamilton,reuben houston,robert hall,8outof9,nerdsnerdsnerds

July 22nd, 2010
4:54 pm

or is Jawja fan and thinks Athens is cool.

Delbert D.

July 22nd, 2010
4:57 pm

The NCAA inquiry is to determine whether or not Mike Garrett is on the search list for AD at Georgia. If he is, Georgia gets the death penalty.

mike mooney,joe hamilton,reuben houston,robert hall,8outof9,nerdsnerdsnerds

July 22nd, 2010
5:04 pm

or disguises himself with someone else’s blog handle like a true nerd from North Avenue.

Paul The Vol

July 22nd, 2010
5:26 pm

Why don’t they just say that this was a Drew Rosenhaus party and get it over with? Everyone knows it was.

Gen Neyland

July 22nd, 2010
5:30 pm

david : Since when has the youth of this country not been exploited..? The Selective Service Board ring a bell..? Who in the he-11 thinks the college student-athlete is on the same plane as the men who got the ‘Greetings’..? Exploited..? They’re (supposedly) getting an education with an opportunity to prove themselves worthy of the Big Show. If not, they still got a free ride in college with medical bennies. Free. In return, they play ball. Darn good trade.

To Slive : If you can’t beat ‘em, join ‘em…

Huggy Bear Bryant

July 22nd, 2010
5:49 pm

Tony, Nick Saban (and Urban Meyer) are the pimps. Well, actually, they’re worse than pimps, because a pimp give some of the money to his ho. Yeah Nick, talk to me about pimpin’ the next time you cash that $5 million paycheck. Pimps put ho’s on the street, and Saban and Meyer put ‘em on the turf. And as I said, at least a ho “gets paid”.

Delbert D.

July 22nd, 2010
5:51 pm

Robert Hall’s girlfriend: Australian Brigitte Ardossi, formerly of Georgia Tech and the Atlanta Dream, described by her former coach as having “a mean, very competitive streak.” #21 draft pick in WNBA by the Atlanta Dream. 6′2 power forward (released in camp).

I wonder if Hall had to call 911? (Oops). When is the hearing on this?

Bernie

July 22nd, 2010
6:55 pm

Good job explaining everything to the rest of these sports fans Atl Gator.Went thru the Charlie Pell era myself…. bad times for us. GO GATORS !

Education

July 22nd, 2010
9:18 pm

The athletes do get a free education – what does a 4 year education cost these days?

Greensboro, GA

July 22nd, 2010
9:28 pm

——————————
NESBITT for HEISMAN
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Robert Hall

July 22nd, 2010
10:36 pm

Atlanta Jackets talks like a little girl. Just the kind I like to beat on. Look out little beotch!

Damon Evans

July 22nd, 2010
10:47 pm

Hey Robert Hall, did he talk like the little girl whose panties were in my lap? I’m sure he’s not the only thing you like to beat on.

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Dave

July 23rd, 2010
6:51 am

Actually I personally think if you guys in the media want to help get rid of this problem Tony you should start up a media feeding frenzy and follow the lead of the scandal site TMZ. First I ask all of you guys why aren’t you mentioning the name of these rogue agents in your columns at every opportunity? I heard the agents name only mentioned a few times in mainly blog articles, but why are guys like you Tony Barnhart not naming names? Next find out what happened at the party. Were these agents bringing in strippers, were these agents serving liquor to underage kids if so name the names of the underage kids there so they could be suspended a game for drinking, and finally were drugs present at the party. If you guys shine a flashlight on these agents and what they did to players while there maybe stuff like this would not happen so much. In some ways I think the media is complicit in not naming names, Maybe like with some political stories outlets like the National Enquirer are truly doing the real reporting and the rest of the media is business as usual. If you guys in the media get together and heat up the story to sell newspapers with blood in the water you will have agents running for the hills to escape media scrutiny. Help TMZ smoke out these guys by finding out what happened at the party scare some agents.

Dick Nixon

July 23rd, 2010
7:34 am

Let us look at the situation. Saban, Myer etal make millions and millions of dollars a year getting mostly poorer african americans to work for no pay, but the agents are scumbags?

hotrod

July 23rd, 2010
8:26 am

Somebody explain to me why a free college education and all that goes with it is not considered to be compensation for an athlete?? Depending on the school they attend, that could be the equvalent of $100,000 over a four year period. Those crying to be “paid” to play football in college are using their God-given talents and expect even more of a free ride……they are leeches and they’ll likley never make a significant contribution to society.

Dawg H8R

July 23rd, 2010
2:45 pm

A college education isn’t “free” for these guys. They risk life
and limb for their schools and conferences. When a kid screws up,
aren’t they removed the team and university.No obligation to make
sure he continues toward his degree,even though he gave up himself
for the school.

When a kid is taking up a spot on the team that could be for a new
one,isn’t he given walking papers.The education isn’t free,you pay with
labor.

If a dweeb or nerd had the option to get paid for cogitation by “agents”
of Microsoft or Halliburton,then they would have their hands out.

The money and exposure was the reason kids left Black Colleges
and Universities(HBCU).Don’t discount the level of education they
could receive there,it’s the fancy dorms,cafeterias,ice cream machines
and leather sofas.Plasma tv’s,blonde chicks that are down for anything,
and I mean ANYTHING.All these things are part of the pay that kids
receive,not the damn education.

Everything that money buys is what seperates USC and GA from
Ft. Valley and SC State.Why should a kid not accept the money,
don’t we all?Every republican I know who’s had an issue with Obama
and the stimulus,all of them accepted stimulus money!
Principles,ethics,and morals seem to only exist when someone is
watching.

Vol Man

July 23rd, 2010
4:19 pm

Just pay the players a couple of thousand each per month—they generate millions for the university, coaches, staff, etc. Time to pay up.

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David Hand

July 26th, 2010
3:04 pm

Tony,

As always..you just make way too much sense.

David Hand
Tallahassee

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