How more NCAA investigations are coming?
Five more buring questions before Alabama and Mississippi State step to the podium to begin SEC Media Days on Wednesday:
1. How many more NCAA investigations are coming? We told you yesterday morning that it appeared that the NCAA had gotten fed up with the level of improper contact between players and agents and had decided to crack down. Investigators have been to North Carolina asking about DT Marvin Austin and RB/WR Greg Little. They have also been to South Carolina to ask questions of reserve tight end Weslye Saunders.
Now add the University of Florida to that growing list. Florida became aware of allegations that junior center Maurkice Pouncey accepted a cash payment from an agent between the SEC championship game and the Sugar Bowl against Cincinnati in January. Pouncey has already left school and was a first-round draft pick of the Pittsburgh Steelers.
If the charge is proven then Pouncey was ineligible for the Sugar Bowl and Florida would likely have to vacate the 51-24 win over Cincinnati. No big deal you say? Well, for the guys whose last game as a Florida player was the Sugar Bowl, and that list includes Tim Tebow, I would think it would be a really big deal.
Stewart Mandel of SI.com reports that this could be just the beginning of an NCAA crackdown on agents:
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/writers/stewart_mandel/07/19/ncaa.agents/index.html
Let’s just take the Pouncey situation. If you’re Florida you hope that it’s not true. But if it is true, the question I have is this: Maurkice Pouncey has been waiting his whole life to get paid to be a professional athlete. And he deserves every penny he gets. But is it so difficult to wait one more month until after you’ve played your last game and turned pro? Do you know, or care, how many people you’re going to hurt if you get caught?
Or am I just being naive to think that an athlete should ever care about anybody other than himself and his family?
And do you think you’re not going to get caught? The NCAA apparently got involved at North Carolina because of some of stuff that Austin wrote on Twitter. Please.
2. Can Mark Ingram repeat as the Heisman Trophy winner? Ingram had a phenomenal sophomore season with 1,658 yards on 271 carries. Only Tennessee’s Montario Hardesty (with 282 carries) toted the rock more times than Ingram did in 2009. But I don’t see Ingram getting that many carries this season. Two reasons why:
No. 1. Ingram’s backup, sophomore Trent Richardson, is a very, very good player who would be starting for every other team in America with the possible exception of Pittsburgh, where they have Dion Lewis. Richardson has another gear and I expect him to improve on his 145 carries from a year ago (He averaged 5.1 yards per carry).
No. 2. It was clear during my visit to Alabama in the spring that the coaching staff feels confident enough with quarterback Greg McElroy to let him take more shots down the field. The coaches have also decided that No. 8 (Julio Jones) is going to get the ball in his hands more than last season, when injuries limited him to 43 catches.
In other words, Alabama’s offense will be even better in 2010 because it won’t have to lean on Ingram so much.
Archie Griffin of Ohio State (1974-75) is the only two-time Heisman Trophy winner. That will still be the case after the 2010 season.
3. Is Auburn’s offense really going to be that good? Well, let’s take a look at that. Gus Malzahn has upgraded the quarterback position with Cameron Newton, a great athlete who will bring a running dimension to this version of the spread. Remember that Malzahn’s offense is run first and when he’s had a mobile quarterback, like he did at Tulsa with David Johnson, this offense can do some special things.
Auburn will certainly miss Ben Tate at running back but it opens the door for Mario Fannin to be a star. Fannin can run it and catch it. If Onterio McCalebb can stay healthy he can be a highlight machine because of his speed. Did we mention that freshman Michael Dyer has a chance to be special?
Auburn has one of the best receivers in the league in Darvin Adams (60 catches, 997 yards) and a star on the rise in Terrell Zachery (26 catches, 477 yards. And I think this is going to be a good year for Emory Blake and former baseball player DeAngelo Benton.
Auburn has four returning starters on the offensive line who have combined for 109 career starts.
Put it all together and it’s hard to see how this collection of players will not be pretty good.
4. Will the combination of new O-Line coach Shawn Elliott and high profile freshman running back Marcus Lattimore finally give South Carolina a respectable running game? While the focus of Steve Spurrier’s struggling offense has been on the quarterback position, the facts are that Spurrier hasn’t had a quality offensive line or a big-time running back since he got to Columbia five years ago.
Elliott came from Appalachian State, where he has been since his days as a player for the Mountaineers. He coached defense and tight ends in Boone before taking over the offensive line in 2001. Appalachian State won three straight Division I-AA national championships (2005-2007) so he obviously was doing something right.
Elliott’s job was not made easier last week when it was announced that offensive tackle Quintin Richardson was going to have surgery on his left shoulder. Richardson started five games and played in eight last season. His status for this season has not been determined.
South Carolina finished last in the SEC in rushing in 2009 (121.23 yards per game). The Gamecocks recruited only one running back because Lattimore was THE guy. How much will he play in South Carolina’s opener with Southern Miss on Sept. 2? More importantly, how much will he play in the Sept. 11 home game with Georgia?
5. Will Jordan Jefferson remain LSU’s starting quarterback for the entire season? During the spring I was getting phone calls that Jefferson, a rising junior, might be challenged for his starting job by junior Jarrett Lee. (That came as surprise because Lee, you’ll recall, was a Pick Six machine in 2008).
It was clear last season that the LSU coaching staff didn’t quite trust Jefferson to turn him loose to run the entire playbook. There were numerous games last season when Jefferson was clearly kept under wraps so as not to make too many mistakes. And Jefferson’s cause was not helped by the fact that LSU simply could not run the football last season, finishing 11th in the SEC just ahead of South Carolina.
But Jefferson’s raw numbers weren’t all that bad. He finished fifth in the SEC in passing effiency, completing 61 percent of his throws for 2,166 yards, 17 touchdowns and seven interceptions. But his totals should have been better given LSU’s inability to run the ball.
Now LSU is bringing Jefferson to SEC Media Days on Friday. Is this an effort to say “This is our starting quarterback” and to give Jefferson a boost of confidence? I applaud LSU for bringing Jefferson. He is the guy people want to talk to because he is such a key to LSU’s success this season.
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grvt
July 20th, 2010
8:32 am
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TheTaxJacket
July 20th, 2010
8:35 am
**** NESBITT FOR HEISMEN ****
(((( 45 – 42 ))))
Too Easy
July 20th, 2010
8:38 am
Hope taxjackette does math better than spelling.
Atlanta Jackets
July 20th, 2010
8:46 am
Read this mutters: You stink. LOL!
Boogers are Salty
July 20th, 2010
8:49 am
Got a feeling alabama’s gonna suck this year, just a feeling though.
RxDawg
July 20th, 2010
8:50 am
1. I’m a little torn about this. If it’s true, then they obviously broke the rules and that can not be alowed. However, I’m one of those that thinks that maybe it should’t really be against the rules. In other words, I think it’s time for a concise and equal increase in “scholarship” monies paid out to the football players that everyone else is making millions off of. It can be done in a way that wont tarnish the game and could actually increase the graduation rate and keep some players in school their whole career.
2. Maybe, but he probably wont. I know Alabama fans will balk at this, but Ingram is a very good running back, not a great running back. He just happens to play for the BCS championship team. On another note, if your No 2 point becomes true than Bama will not repeat as champions. If they try to get cute, and move away from what is working (taking it right to opposing teams and wearing them down) then they will lose some games. That said, I don’t see Bama changing. Why should they? If it ain’t broke…
3. Offense isn’t really the question to be answered over at Auburn though is it?
4. USC has more potential then usual this year. I too will be interested to see Lattimore play.
5. I haven’t seen Jefferson play as much as LSU fans. But what little I did see he seemed like a very capable QB. Lack of a running game is a surefire way to make most QB’s look very bad. UGA had a zero running game the first half of the season, and it’s a big reason I think a lot of “fans” give Joe Cox a hard time for his performance. If Jefferson doesn’t work out, I think I’d wipe the slate clean and try out whatever new guys LSU has in the waiting.
kaput
July 20th, 2010
8:57 am
Apparently, Pouncey will hold some kind of press conference today to clear his name. He has already provided bank statements, phone records and other documentation that shows where he got his financial backing and that information clears him of any wrongdoing.
I am glad the NCAA is looking into it, hopefully they’ll be consistent and fair and not try to make examples out of people.
DOUBLE G
July 20th, 2010
9:03 am
Tony, fix your headline!
War Eagles may be primed on offense. But what about the “D”?
And NCAA needs to find a way to crack down on agents and runners trying to collar “da playas”. The smell coming out of it is really bad.
Les
July 20th, 2010
9:04 am
Here we go again with the Alabama lovefest, based on hot air.
No, uh, Trent Richardson wouldn’t be starting at RB at Georgia, hello.
Ealey got 5.7 ypc as a a freshman, Richardson got 5.1.
Don’t think Richardson got 155 td’s and 8100 yards rushing in high school either like Ealey.
No one would be starting at Georgia EXCEPT Ealey.
Ealey’s averaging more ypc than Herschel Walker.
Ealey blew away Ingram & Richardson’s freshman stats. 5.7 vs. 5.1 ypc. They’re decent backs, but they are not Washaun Ealey.
Scout says Ealey, not Richardson, will have a breakout year this year, and Phil Steele says Ealey is on the Heisman watch list.
Ok, let’s practice again, 5.7 ypc is better than 5.1 ypc. Got it?
dagnabit
July 20th, 2010
9:04 am
I think you are absolutely right about Auburn. Other teams beware.
bo
July 20th, 2010
9:05 am
Alabama will lose games this year. One or two losses and they will appear fairly ordinary. any, anytime a writer starts telling us someone’s back-up is better than everyone else’s starter, I get a little skeptical.
Same can be said for the superlatives given the the true Fr RB at SCU. Unless he’s another HW, let him break into the season a little before claiming he’s a world beater.
Jeff
July 20th, 2010
9:05 am
Florida will be fine. They’re in the NCAA’s pocket. Folks will just look the other way.
Sam Robards, Dawg Fan
July 20th, 2010
9:07 am
1. The NCAA is clearly bringing down the hammer on the agent issue, which I think is good because I was afraid that they would get weak-kneed after the crackdown at Southern Cal. That being said, if Pouncey did the crime, UF vacates the game. ‘Nuff said.
2. It possible that Ingram could repeat as the Heisman winner, but not probable … or even likely. In addition to the reasons you mentioned, in two of Bama’s biggest games last year, Tennessee and Auburn, Ingram didn’t do JACK. I think he capped at 50 yards in each game. So he’s not the unstoppable juggernaut he was made out to be last year.
3. Auburn is a lot like Arkansas. They’ll have a good offense, but their defense last year was worse than ours. Also, unlike us with our new DC, they didn’t actively do anything to fix it. So, until I see otherwise, Auburn isn’t challenging for the West and neither is Arkansas.
4. Based on past history, I still don’t see South Carolina having any semblance of a decent running game this year.
5. I think Jefferson will remain LSU’s quarterback if only because they remember the Peach Bowl against GA Tech and know what he’s capable of on the field. All they know of Lee on the field is that he throws a lotta touchdowns … to the other team.
Eddie
July 20th, 2010
9:10 am
Auburn’s offense will be pretty good. Gus is a good coach. But if you stop their run, they can’t do much.
South Carolina, hard to see them improving their running game drastically. Expect moderate improvement. Spurrier has proven he’s not a good coach anymore–Spurrier’s alread in retirement mode–has been for last 9 years—too much golf, too little work. Spurrier loves to throw the ball, get vertical, been his achilles heel. Just doesn’t have the coaches, or athletes, to compete with the Georgia’s of the SEC. He’s like 2-7 against Richt. No contest.
Tim
July 20th, 2010
9:10 am
Isn’t AU’s Cameron Newton the player that Florida kicked off their team for stealing a laptop computer? If so, how many times has a SEC team picked up a player that was kicked off the team for a violation like that?
H-Back
July 20th, 2010
9:17 am
Auburn’s offense should be good if Newton steps up. Tigers’ problem is Ted “Leaky” Roof and the D.
Nachos
July 20th, 2010
9:17 am
Everyone hating on Bama….
Love it.
Just shows we are back and own all you mutts, barners, and redneck vols.
Rog
July 20th, 2010
9:18 am
Ingram won’t repeat as Heisman, that’s absurd. He didn’t even earn it. Gerhart or Keenum should have gotten it–they blew away Ingram. But since Ingram’s TEAM did good, he got an unearned gift. Won’t happen again, was just a kind gesture, from a defense that was good, just like when Tebow won.
Alabama won’t win more than 9 games this year, if you look at what Saban does after he wins a National Camnpionship, it’s like 3 loss years the next season. So, Alabama goes 9-3, doesn’t play in the SEC Championship, no Alabama player will even be in the conversation this year. No one in the SEC repeats as National Champs, ok, maybe what, every 25 or 30 years? Alabama will not be a factor in 2010. They just lost 9 players on defense, they’re done. They got embarrased by a fresh QB in the Natl Champ. Almost lost to 4 teams last year, very, very lucky. Really not that good.
Miles
July 20th, 2010
9:23 am
Remember, Maurkice Pouncey was attending UF on an athletic scholarship, not an academic one. Thus, it’s ok for him to accept money whenever he chooses because ethical decisions are beyond his scope of intellectual prowess.
Call IT
July 20th, 2010
9:24 am
Ugh excuse me Rog, but Tebow did earn the Heisman since he by far plays with more heart and passion than any player in college football.
Plus, he is a great role model for kids and a true leader with CLASS!
Enough Said!
CW
July 20th, 2010
9:24 am
Maybe they should go back and look at garrison hearst. I mean, he came from the poorest county in jawja and was driving a 15k car back in the 90’s. Yeah sure there was nothing shady going on.
Will
July 20th, 2010
9:24 am
This may come as a shock to all but W. Ealey will have more yards rushing than Richardson or Ingram. Everyone at UGA is saying he is the real deal and will get more carries this year than Moreno did in 08′. I predict Ealey will touch it 25 times a game and rush for 1800. Hell, he’s going to have 200 against the chickens.
RxDawg
July 20th, 2010
9:26 am
Les – loving the homerism.
Rog “They got embarrased by a fresh QB in the Natl Champ.” – Umm, Bama won that game pretty handidly but w/e. “Really not that good.” Umm, they only went undefeated and won the SEC and BCS championship. Ok, I’m done defending Bama…like they need it anyways.
Also, Spiller should of been more considered as well.
Mack
July 20th, 2010
9:29 am
Of course ealey will have more yards. You think richt is dumb enough to put it in the air with a inexperienced qb with a slow arm? Uga will be so one dimensional this year. Poor aj.
Mel Gibson is innocent
July 20th, 2010
9:37 am
6. Will Georgia EVER play game that doesn’t start at 12:00 or 12:30pm?
SecGuy
July 20th, 2010
9:45 am
If South Carolina is ever going to make a move, this is the year. The experience is there. Spurrier will go back to calling the plays this year and that’s where he earned the ‘Evil Genius’ nickname. As a Bama fan, I don’t like the idea of facing his play calling with a green secondary. I think they will beat Georgia and possibly Bama this year. As for Ingram and the Heisman, who cares? Bama had never had a Heisman winner before last year and I never lost a wink of sleep over it. Let the games begin.
Colin
July 20th, 2010
9:49 am
How more brown cow?
I also think it’s great that LSU is bringing Jefferson to the SEC Media Days. I don’t think LSU can go all the way with serious questions about who will start at quarterback. I think Miles is making the right decision here.
ugahater
July 20th, 2010
10:00 am
Isn’t it funny that what amounts to an illegitimate championship,
(the BCS title), can be taken away based on illegitimate wins?
Just kidding.
Yes, Newton is that former gator. He transferred to Blinn, has grown up, and will play for Auburn. He will complete that offense.
Darvin Adams, btw, is THE best receiver in the SEC. Best on the stat sheet, anyway. Look it up!
uga will lose, lose, lose this year. This will be Richt’s hot seat season by Halloween. 5 losses, minimum.
Les
July 20th, 2010
10:10 am
Ealey’s 5.7 ypc fresh vs. 5.1 ypc Ingram or Richard’s fresh is Homerism? Nice, I see we have some really smart people here. Sorry those stats don’t sit well with you guys, but feel free to revel in your “Alabama rocks” dream, while “homers” like me, Scout and Phil Steele, ALL say Washaun Ealey will have a breakout season or should be on the Heisman watch list.
Rizzo
July 20th, 2010
10:12 am
Ealey will get 20 touches, bout 6 yards a tote, over 14 games, bout 1700 yards in 2010. Not too bad there. Remember, Coach Richt is 40-3 when he gets a 100 yard rusher, so his most productive back will be touching that ball 20 times a game. King’s pretty good too.
Goin Long
July 20th, 2010
10:14 am
Ealey & King have been the best duo over the last 5 games in the SEC. Getting about 225 yards rushing a game together. Unstoppable. Ingram & who?
DP
July 20th, 2010
10:23 am
Les, if yards per carry are so important to you, how come you don’t mention that Ingram averaged 6.1 last year versus 5.7 for Ealey?
RxDawg, if Ingram isn’t a great back, how many great backs has Georgia had since Herschel? Tell me about the ones who were better than Ingram.
And Tony, you’re really going out on a limb to pick any one player in the country and say he won’t win the Heisman. Heisman voters will raise the bar for Ingram. He would have to blow away everybody else and probably have to rush for 2000 yards for the voters not to pick somebody else. That’s obviously not going to happen with Ingram sharing carries with Richardson and given that Saban pulls his front line guys early in blowout games instead of padding their stats.
Rog
July 20th, 2010
10:25 am
Ingram got the Heisman as the sentimental favorite, because he was the first Alabama guy to win it. It wasn’t “earned”, tons of guys had better stats, but he just “won the hearts” of the voters.
And of course, most journalists last year & this year are Bama homers, as we all know. Bama is the flavor of the week.
Les
July 20th, 2010
10:28 am
You compare apples to apples. Freshman year to freshman year to see where a guy’s at, development wise.
Ealey is ahead of both Ingram & Richardson’s 5.1 ypc freshman, as he finished at 5.7 as a freshman.
Ealey will get better each year. He’ll probably be at 6.5 or 7 yards a carry this year, he has a lot of explosion runs.
Why are you trying to compare a Sophmore to a freshman and act like that’s a real comaprison?
K City
July 20th, 2010
10:32 am
Richt really has no choice this year except to run the ball a LOT because of his inexperience at QB. 2010 will be Ealey’s best chance at winning the Heisman for that reason. In 2011, the offense will be more run/pass balanced and experienced.
But with an O-Line with the nation’s #1 most experienced at 155 starts, and a guy who outran Ingram as a freshman, you’ve got to pound the ball about 40 times a game.
Uncle DJ
July 20th, 2010
10:35 am
King/Ealey is da best RB duo in da buz. Check da stats over last few games for da truth.
DP
July 20th, 2010
10:39 am
Les, you said Ingram and Richardson were “decent backs” but not as good as Ealey. Now you’re acknowledging Ingram is better than Ealey but it’s because he’s a year older?
Get back to us when Ealey averages 6.5 or 7 yards per carry this year. He didn’t even play the first 4 games last year and his high ypc were largely a function of the Tennessee Tech and Georgia Tech games. Let’s see how he does against good SEC defenses when they’re stacked up to stop the run.
DP
July 20th, 2010
10:41 am
Reminder to Delusional Dawg fans, your team was 7-5 last year, was stomped by Florida, lost at home to Kentucky, played a horrible Texas A&M team in a bowl game in Shreveport. Keep things in perspective.
RxDawg
July 20th, 2010
10:42 am
DP
-Knowshon was/is better.
-Garrison Hearst was better.
-Robert Edwards (pre injury) was better IMO.
-Possibly Rodney Hampton, but I’ll call that one debatable.
-Unlike my “pal” Les, I’m not ready to anoint Ealy yet…but I agree there is potential.
Now that’s just UGA post Herschel like you asked. Other more recent SEC backs that I think are better than Ingram are Darren McFaden, Cadilac Williams and (maybe) Ronnie Brown, Fred Taylor, and your very own Sean Alexander. Thats just off the top of my head.
By the way, I’m really not trying to knock Ingram. He’s awesome and I’d let him START for the Dawgs right now.
POAD
July 20th, 2010
10:50 am
Ingram was not the best back last year. Bama got a gift. The White kid from Stanford was a better back.
Gatorzone
July 20th, 2010
10:50 am
RX, you are making too much sense on here today. Shouldn’t we get started with the tech/uga pissing contest by now?
DP
July 20th, 2010
10:51 am
RxDawg, Knowshon was better than Ingram? You’re talking about “Big Game” Knowshon, the guy who took himself out of the game every time he had 2 or 3 carries in a row?
How2fish
July 20th, 2010
10:51 am
NCAA is getting tough and its time..hope UF doesn’t have to void that win, this was one player doing something beyond the rules..a coach has a better shot at stopping kids from drinking than taking 100k from a sports agents..its purely the kids fault not the Gator program’s they won that game as a team damn shame if one player had that taken away from them..and I’m a OLD school gator hater..but that would be B.S for certain and for sure.
jumbeauxtiger
July 20th, 2010
10:52 am
Ealey is the best running back ever in college football.
Here are just some of the former stars he is better than:
Hershel Walker
Ricky Williams
Marcus Allen
Bo Jackson
Archie Griffin
Barry Sanders
Billy Sims
Earl Campbell
Mark Ingram
Tony Dorsett
Charles White
Reggie Bush
Johnny Rodgers
Does anyone else agree with Les and I?
jumbeauxtiger
July 20th, 2010
10:53 am
Oops, Ingram is a current star.
Gatorzone
July 20th, 2010
10:55 am
I look for Bama to lose 2 games this year. Realistically, going undefeated 2 years in a row will be impossible. Last year they had hardly any injuries and were lucky on a couple of occasions. This year will be tough to repeat all of the chips falling into place. Preseason hype, injuries and the second half of the season having 6 games in a row of teams coming off of a bye will lead to a couple of defeats. Probably from teams no one expects.
Les
July 20th, 2010
10:58 am
Saban’s better than:
Bear Bryant, John Wooden
Sure he is. Ha ha.
Gen Neyland
July 20th, 2010
11:00 am
For Ealey to be considered a serious contender for the Heisman, he’ll need not fumble his chances away, ala Kentucky-UGA for example. That won’t earn the hardware, guys…I’m thinking Ingram lost it what, once last year. Twice maybe. Gotta do all the right things right when the chips are on the line. Ingram did much more, more often than not…
Will
July 20th, 2010
11:03 am
I respect Phil Steele a lot. If he says Ealey is good enough to be on the Heisman watchlist, I’m going with that.
It is true, Ealey is outgaining Herschel Walker’s ypc average so far in college. And it’s also true that Ealey did break Herschel’s TD record in high school also. In fact, Ealey has the state record. Not too bad, to be mentioned with Herschel Walker. Also, I checked it, Ealey’s 5.7 ypc freshman stats did beat out both Mark Ingram and Trent Richardson’s freshman ypc average. WOW!
jumbeauxtiger
July 20th, 2010
11:05 am
Gatorzone,
Bama went undefeated in the regular season in 2008 and 2009 so it’s not impossible that they won’t go undefeated this fall.
Championship teams all have some luck. In the 2008 national championship season for the Gators, they blocked a fg by South Carolina at the end of the game or otherwise would have lost and would not have played for the BCS title.
LSU certainly had some luck go their way in 2007.
Geaux Tigers
Go SEC
Jay
July 20th, 2010
11:05 am
No worries, Ealey only had 1 fumble all year. That was a pitch from Joe Cox when Ealey was 3 inches from him, it wasn’t Ealey’s fault.
RxDawg
July 20th, 2010
11:09 am
Heh, sorry GZ.
*clears throat*
*in the voice of Ogre* NEEERRRRRRDDDDDSSS!
Don
July 20th, 2010
11:10 am
Ingram was 27th in ypc last year, and 4th in rushing yards, how did he win the Heisman?
Les
July 20th, 2010
11:13 am
Hey guys,
Anybody know, did any Heisman trophy winning RB ever run for 8100 yards and 155 td’s in high school?
Don’t think so.
Washaun Ealey did.
Photo Opportunity
July 20th, 2010
11:15 am
Ingram fumbled 2x more than Ealey last year.
Gatorzone
July 20th, 2010
11:16 am
Ha, nice…
General, what is going to be the fallout from the Bar room brawl?
Chi Town
July 20th, 2010
11:18 am
Saban is watching all of you right now.
Watch what you say.
Jim
July 20th, 2010
11:19 am
Let’s just say Saban’s not considered the classiest guy around by Forbes.
Saban was on Forbes 10 most hated people in Sports list, at #9.
http://www.nbcmiami.com/news/sports/Forbes-Calls-Traitor-Saban-No-9-Most-Hated-52122707.html
Red
July 20th, 2010
11:20 am
To those who think this should not be against the rules, what’s to stop a kid from getting an agent, getting a check, and just riding out the last of the season – translation: throwing the game or just sitting out altogether. If he has a guaranteed future in the pros, why would he risk it playing hard or even just playing the rest of the season? Forget bowls. He gets the ring regardless. This opens up a whole new dynamic for coaches to deal with.
learning a lot here today
July 20th, 2010
11:22 am
didn’t realize that w ealey was the best running back in the SEC. certainly did not realize he was a heisman contender. How many votes did he receive last year? And single-handedly carrying UGA to a BCS bid? wow…
he is a fine player, but:
he didn’t play in the first half of the year last year – let’s see how his stamina holds up over the course of a full season.
he averaged 4.1 per carry against KU, LSU and UF. he averaged 1.8 against UT. Not bad, but not heisman-esque against the SEC defenses
he broke all of the GHS records, but he played for a Class A Emmanuel High. And had some huge offensive linemen in front of him. Not exactly NCAA quality defenses
Gen Neyland
July 20th, 2010
11:23 am
Two people suspended, one kicked off the team (Myles, a two time loser). Dang, Myles couldn’t even out run a cop loaded down with firearm and gear as he was nabbed hoofing it away from the Strip. My guess is that played into his dismissal. CDD had to think, ‘If he can’t evade the law, how good is he gonna be chasing down running backs..?’ Other than that, it’s becoming a bit drawn out and looking like there are 70 different stories told from bleary eyed witnesses…
Q Tip
July 20th, 2010
11:27 am
Didn’t realize Saban was so great. How does he compare to John Wooden or Phil Jackson? Anyone know? Learning a lot here today. Very enlightening.
Gen Neyland
July 20th, 2010
11:32 am
Seriously Dawg Fans, Ingram helped his team to the BCSNCG. Ealey propeled his team to Shreveport. I don’t know what Ealey will do for UGA this year, but he’s capable of good things, what with the OL he has in front of him…The wicked Sophmore jinx didn’t hit Ingram. Will it hit Ealey..? Yet to be seen, huh…
KR
July 20th, 2010
11:34 am
Q Tip: Saban knows far more about football than John Wooden or Phil Jackson…
Q Tip
July 20th, 2010
11:43 am
Anyone know what Saban’s winning % is?
I’m sure it’s MUCH better than Richt’s lousy .769 winning %.
RxDawg
July 20th, 2010
11:45 am
“Ealey propeled his team to Shreveport”
Meh, wasn’t half the entire SEC 7-5? Auburn went to the Outback with a 7-5 reccord, UGA went to Independance with a 7-5 reccord. You might as well just threw the middle of the pac SEC teams in a hat and randomly picked. We just drew the short straw nothing more.
Q Tip
July 20th, 2010
11:51 am
Anyone know why Saban’s only finished in the top 10, back to back, 1x in his coaching career? What’s wrong with him?
Q Tip
July 20th, 2010
11:53 am
Nick Saban
2006 record:
6-10
2007:
7-6
Haaaa!
Ted
July 20th, 2010
11:53 am
Speaking of Shreveport, didn’t Saban play there in 2007?
Fast Eddie
July 20th, 2010
11:58 am
Rog @ 9:18: Damn, man. You must have some really terrific inside source to know all that information. What horse puckey. Your ESP ain’t getting it, SportNLife!
Bamma Ramma
July 20th, 2010
12:00 pm
Auburn was a flash in the pan last year. Bama was flat in that game, expecting a blowout win. This year, bama beats Auburn by 20+ and easily wins the SEC west, on the way to the SEC title over Florida and National Title #14! Bama–hard to be humble!
5IML
July 20th, 2010
12:00 pm
Thanks Learning a lot,
Now, can we end the silly “Ealy is better than Ingram” talk and move on to the next delusional rant?
Q Tip
July 20th, 2010
12:02 pm
Neat comparison:
Nick Saban back to back top 10 finishes in career:
1
Mark Richt:
14
5IML
July 20th, 2010
12:03 pm
Q tip,
Nick Saban
2008 record:
12-2
2009 record:
14-0
…but everyone complains when BAMA fans live in the past.
Cuz
July 20th, 2010
12:04 pm
Yeah man, everybody knows 5.7 ypc ISN’T better than 5.1 ypc, no way Ealey’s fresh ypc better than Ingram’s fresh ypc, even though he outrushed him, right?
5IML
July 20th, 2010
12:05 pm
Q tip,
So, Richt has coached for 9 years and managed to finish in the Top Ten 28 times. That’s incredible (in the true sense of the word)!
Q Tip
July 20th, 2010
12:07 pm
Wow, Nickky Saban finally joined the 700 club and broke .700 in career winning percentage.
Of course, he doesn’t measure up to Mark Richt, but at least he’s in the club.
Career as head coach:
Mark Richt .769 win %
Nickky Saban .700 win %
Q Tip
July 20th, 2010
12:10 pm
Richt coached for 15 years at FSU. Before/After Richt, Bowden finished in the top 5 final poll 1 time. While Richt was there, 13 top 5 finishes, 12 in a row. Then 4 in a row at Georgia. Richt’s been coaching for dozens of years boy.
5IML
July 20th, 2010
12:10 pm
The SEC Coaches Pre-season all-SEC team was released today. Inexplicably, the people who know more about SEC football than anyone else, left Ealey off.
http://www.secsports.com/news/preseason-all-sec-coaches-team.aspx
Ingram is first team. Richardson is second team.
How2fish
July 20th, 2010
12:12 pm
Don his team won the NC and he was a big factor for them doing that..you get to jump a couple of places when that happens…
GG's House
July 20th, 2010
12:13 pm
Is kind of odd Nick Saban’s only finished in the top 10 consecutively 1x in his entire career. Weird.
Richt’s done it 4x in a row at Georgia, richt’s 4x better.
5IML
July 20th, 2010
12:14 pm
It’s funny how some people hang on to stats while others hang on to trophies.
5IML
July 20th, 2010
12:15 pm
Number of Top 1 finishes:
Mark Richt 0
Nick Saban 2
GG's House
July 20th, 2010
12:19 pm
I came up hmy own selections that much more accurate:
GG’S ALL SEC TEAM RANKINGS (based on freshman yards per carry averages):
#1 Washaun Ealey 5.7 ypc
#2 Mark Ingram 5.1 ypc
#2 Trent Richardson 5.1 ypc
Q Tip
July 20th, 2010
12:22 pm
# of top 3 finishes:
Saban 2
Richt 2
How2fish
July 20th, 2010
12:23 pm
5IML number of times head coach lied to his teams supporters about leaving the program
Mark Richt 0
Nick Saban 2…and counting?
5IML
July 20th, 2010
12:24 pm
How2fish,
So, this is a blog about morality in college athletics? I clicked on this story from the Sports page. I will report the broken link to the AJC’s tech support. Thanks.
GG's House
July 20th, 2010
12:25 pm
Here’s some more of GG’s ranking for ya’ll.
GG’s Rushing rankings for Nov 2009:
#1 Georgia 252 yards per game
#2 Florida 203 yards per game
#3 Alabama 202 yards per game
RxDawg
July 20th, 2010
12:28 pm
# of top 3 finishes:
Saban 2
Richt 2
There is actually some merrit to that. For all of those Richt bashers that say he’s never won a NC, they are technicaly right. But Richt has had 2, maybe 3 national champion type of seasons. Theres not that much difference between an end of the year #1 ranking and an end of the year #2 ranking. And you certainly can’t use that in a case against Richt not being a top of the line football coach.
JTS
July 20th, 2010
12:32 pm
Sam Robards, Dawg Fan : Ingram had 99 yards against UT and lost the only fumble of his career in that game. The previous play he was a shoestring tackle away from an 80 year TD run. Auburn’s sole purpose in their game against Alabama was to limit Ingram, which led to Julio Jones, Richardson and Upchurch having big plays and big days.
Les: Remember that Richardson was the #1 rated RB coming out of high school according to ESPN. I don’t think Easley was in the discussion. He also had over 100 yards against the nations #1 rushing defense in the BCS national championship game.
5IML
July 20th, 2010
12:32 pm
I didn’t say anything about Richt’s coaching abilities. My posts were in response to the ones saying Richt is better than Saban. I prefer national championships as a gauge of coaching ability. If others (who do not have national championships) prefer to use stats, that’s fine too.
Please note: I’ve never seen fans celebrating a number two or number three finish in any sport at any level.
BAMA
July 20th, 2010
12:35 pm
# of NC’s:
BAMA 8
UGA 1
How2fish
July 20th, 2010
12:35 pm
51ml so its only about the wins? So if and I really hope it never happens that the NCAA was to yank that glass ball from you guys for cheating you’d be OK with that because you won right? Yeah there is some morality in sports that sort of built in. And that was a WHAT IF statement as far as I know Saban and Bama are as pure as the driven snow..and will stay that way..having a coach you can trust what he says every time he says its pretty neat..and so far as I hear Saban has walked the walk..at Bama so far but don’t you just have..way back in the back of the brain a little tick tock sound that just won’t go away.
Buzzy
July 20th, 2010
12:35 pm
When Ingram won the Heisman, it’s not based on individual merit, he didn’t finish #1 in any major rushing stat, so it’s based on something the team did, like play good defense.
JTS
July 20th, 2010
12:41 pm
THat’s right Buzzy, because the Heisman should only go to those individual’s with the best stats.
Like Detmer and Andre Ware back in the day, right? Because those guys were by far the best QB’s because they had the best stats. They’re long (joke) careers in the NFL prove that.
Pitbull
July 20th, 2010
12:41 pm
Is Tech still on probation for playing those 11 academically ineligible football players over a 7 year period?
And how many wins did Tech have to vacate? It couldn’t have been a lot.
Buzzy
July 20th, 2010
12:42 pm
Ealey ran for 55 td’s in best season in high school. Richardson’s best was 26 td’s. Ealey averaged 5.7 yards per carry as a college freshman, Richardson 5.1 yards per carry.
5IML
July 20th, 2010
12:43 pm
How2,
All of my posts have been in response to posts about the Saban and Ingram vs Richt and Ealey. When actually winning the championship is mentioned, the talk all of sudden shifts to Richt’s morals. Why are you guys so concerned about Saban and BAMA anyway?
Paul in RDU
July 20th, 2010
12:52 pm
jumbeaux tiger @10:52 – Love the post – it brought tears to my eyes.
You missed a few former players who are not as good as Ealey
Walter Payton
Eric Dickerson
O.J. Simpson
LaDainian Tomlinson
Jim Brown
Buzzy
July 20th, 2010
12:53 pm
Something Meyer or Saban CAN’T do:
Final Rankings finish at Georgia:
2002 #3
2003 #6
2004 #6
2005 #10
2006 #23
2007 #2
2008 #10
6 out 7, final top 10 finishes, 4 in a row.
bamafan
July 20th, 2010
12:55 pm
Guys – it will be hard for Bama to repeat and certainly probably harder for Ingram to repeat. Not a problem. We will take what we can get……….as for LES, your stats may be correct, but I think most coaches and even fans would take Ingram over Ealey. There is more to football than just straight numbers…….otherwise why bother to play? Since it is a team game, hard to envision individual awards being exclusively based on individual efforts…….it isn’t black and white but shades of gray. LES – go back to work……your boss is looking over your shoulder.
How2fish
July 20th, 2010
12:55 pm
5IML your right I went back and reread your posts..we both have I think great coaches yours has won a NC at two schools I tip my hat to him and the Bama program…best of luck this year..I really hope we get to see you guys in the Dome.
Call IT
July 20th, 2010
12:55 pm
Yeah Buzzy with ZERO NC’s!
Gators own the East again 2010!
Enough Said!
jumbeauxtiger
July 20th, 2010
12:57 pm
That’s a worthy addition to my list Paul.
BAMA
July 20th, 2010
12:57 pm
I agree with Paul and jumbeaux. Ealey’s the greatest because he plays for UGA….they are the best team in College Football Teams like Bama and UF are so lucky to keep whipping them year after year after year…………………
DAWG H8R
July 20th, 2010
12:57 pm
Mr. Football, Wesley Saunders is the starter at TE since
Jared Cook was drafted. If he’s eligible.
How2fish
July 20th, 2010
1:02 pm
bamafan Ingram’s a great ball player period. Ealey maybe too this year will tell if he stays healthy until then he is a good freshman back..different ball game when the D is waiting for YOU! I hope he is as good as I think he can be but only time will tell..Ingram been there and done that and has the Heisman.
Paul in RDU
July 20th, 2010
1:06 pm
I agree jumbeaux – How can Dickerson be as good as Ealey – Ealey ran for 8,000 yards in 4 years in HS and Dickerson only ran for 7,000 his first 4 years with some team called the Los Angeles Rams
3-4 WILL RULE!
July 20th, 2010
1:06 pm
AU wont be able to stop anyone!!! No DB;S at all!!!!
Gen Neyland
July 20th, 2010
1:43 pm
Rx : You maybe unkknowingly got caught in the crossfire of an A-B,b,b,b,b, etc lopsided conversation regarding Ingram’s 2009 successes vs Ealey’s 2010 possibilities. Two different beasts, just like two different bowl games. One’s pudding been proved, the other is still in the fridge. Just trying to make a point to the B,b,b,b,b’s of Dawgville. Guess I better drop some 1000 pounders with napalm next fly by to wake ‘em up…
dawgdoodie
July 20th, 2010
1:44 pm
Nachos referring to someone else as a redneck? That’s rich!
Digger
July 20th, 2010
1:49 pm
Poor old Bama homers. What is it about 5.7 yards per carry that Ealey got his freshman year versus 5.1 yards per carry that the 2 Bama boys got their freshman year that’s so hard to understand?
5.7 more than 5.1, it ain’t rocket science.
Stats > Titles?
July 20th, 2010
2:00 pm
To the delusional dawg fans. You rule the world of stats. Bama rules the world of titles. I’ll take the latter and don’t see that changing much in the future.
The Big B.U.G
July 20th, 2010
2:09 pm
Wooden didn’t get his 1st National Championship for his 1st 15 years coaching.
I guess everyone’s right. Judged by his 1st 15 seasons, Wooden’s the worst coach ever.
5IML
July 20th, 2010
2:10 pm
How2,
I’d like play UGA for the SEC championship but BAMA seems to contractually obligated to play Florida.
H-Back
July 20th, 2010
2:47 pm
Tony, off the subject but Mike Garrett is out as AD at USC. Pat Haden (man he was a good one) takes over. How much of Kiffin will Pat be able to take?
Go Dawgs!
Dawgonit
July 20th, 2010
3:14 pm
South Carolina is finally going to roll. That OL is older and some redshirts are coming off for depth. We didn’t face Alshon Jeffrey or Kenny Miles last year and they should have beaten us then. Afraid if they get by us they are going to be a force. The past means nothing. Spurdog has enough players to make some serious noise. Unfortunately.
Will
July 20th, 2010
3:52 pm
Dawgonit,
I was thinking the same way until it was announced that the game would be played at 12:30. The Chickens are tough at 3:30 on CBS or @ 7 on ESPN. But the crowd will be hung over and hot and UGA will come out and push the overrated USC Defense around the first half. UGA will build a 21 point first half lead and by then the game will be over and most of the dejected USC fans will be home sitting in the ac. USC was really dealt a bad hand on this one but as a dawg fan I will take it.
Tide Rising
July 20th, 2010
3:53 pm
Well, I kinda thought Les’s stats on just how great Washaun Ealey’s freshman stats were BS so I did a little research.
Turns out Ealey’s stats and 5.7 ypc average are kinda bogus. His stats were padded by his 3 nonconference games(average of 9.3 ypc) and by the Tennessee Tech game in particular where he averaged 12.7 ypc. Against SEC caliber competition Ealey averaged just 4.16 ypc. Ealey also only scored 3 tds all season.
Trent Richardson averaged 4.73 yards per carry vs sec competition vs 4.16 for Ealey which is over a half yd avg better. Its .57 yard per carry better to be exact vs SEC caliber competition.
Ealey bolstered his noncon rushing stats against the likes of Tenn. Tech at 12.7, GT at 9.2, and Texas A&M (6.0) which had one of the worst defenses in the country.
Trent Richardson had a lower ypc avg because he was playing against VT which always has a stout defense and against Texas which ranked #1 in the nation against the run. Trent still ran for 109 yds and 2 tds against the horns though. One other thing- Richardson rushed for 8 tds on the season vs 3 for Ealey. Trent showed up against big time competition in Texas and Florida and in the Florida game he rushed for 7.3 ypc.
I’ll take Trent’s superior stats against SEC competition and against big boy competition like UF and Texas all day long over Ealey’s stats which are padded by the likes of Tennessee Tech.
H-Back
July 20th, 2010
4:04 pm
Tide Rising, don’t forget. Richardson gained 118 yards on 15 carries (7.87 yd average)and scored two of his 8 TDs against Florida International.
Barack Obama
July 20th, 2010
4:06 pm
Tide Rising,
I know under my economic policies that finding a job are next to impossible but you must stop sitting in your mom’s basement trolling the UGA blogs. These stats you come up with look like some of the stuff we cook up to make ourselves look better. What’s the unemployment in Alabama?? Is it 12%? Sorry, I promised it wouldn’t get higher than 8. My bad.
Follow The Money
July 20th, 2010
4:06 pm
Are suppose to believe that 1 player 1 month before his last game is the only one. Dig deeper. Havin is wher I would start.
Follow The Money
July 20th, 2010
4:09 pm
RxDawg
July 20th, 2010
8:50 am
1. I’m a little torn about this. If it’s true, then they obviously broke the rules and that can not be alowed. However, I’m one of those that thinks that maybe it should’t really be against the rules. In other words, I think it’s time for a concise and equal increase in “scholarship” monies paid out to the football players that everyone else is making millions off of. It can be done in a way that wont tarnish the game and could actually increase the graduation rate and keep some players in school their whole career”
And I guess you would be in favor of reversing NCAA decision on USC? This is exactly what Bush did.
fishtales
July 20th, 2010
5:59 pm
Rog-
Bama was very, very lucky last year, huh? I’ll give you some stats since that’s what a lot of Dawg fans seem to enjoy:
2009 Alabama football team
*First team ever to beat last four NC’s in the same year
*First team ever to defeat two straight teams with records of 12-0 or better
*Six first team all-Americans (most ever)
*Defeated 10 teams that played in bowls (most ever)
*Gave 6 opponents their worst defeat of the year
Better to be lucky than good I guess.
Delbert D.
July 20th, 2010
6:01 pm
@”Q Tip
July 20th, 2010
12:02 pm
Neat comparison:
Nick Saban back to back top 10 finishes in career:
1
Mark Richt:
14″
Well, heck; then Jim Tressel has 4 NCs won on the field, and Paul Johnson has 3.
Tide Rising
July 20th, 2010
6:22 pm
Barack Obama,
My apologies. I thought this was Tony Barnhart’s college football blog and not the dog blawg that Bill King writes. I also thought Bama was one of the topics covered in Tony’s blog today. My apologies. Won’t happen again.
Tide Rising
July 20th, 2010
6:26 pm
H-back,
Correct. Best way to measure these rbs is to look at their performances vs SEC competition instead of Florida international or Tennessee Tech. And when comparing apples to apples and looking at sec competition only Richardson is over a half a yard per carry better than Ealey. Just the facts sir. I’ll take his 8 tds over Ealey’s 3 tds also.
Dave Cutler
July 20th, 2010
6:35 pm
Auburn’s defense hurt last year because we lost key players for the entire season in summer ball. We also were young. Those hurt players are back. We will be much better this year on offense and defense. It’s just a matter of time really. Schedule looks real good. It’s gonna be a special year for Auburn. If Malzahn can make Chris Todd the all time leader in Auburn history in TD throws….what will he do with Cam Newton. Bow down fellas. Tigers roll this year. Best receiving core in SEC.
Beast from the East
July 20th, 2010
6:35 pm
Tide,
Just tell Barack this is a college FOOTBALL blog. He should be on the equestrian or gymnastics blog. That should shut him up. LOL!
Ray Barone
July 20th, 2010
6:42 pm
If Tim Tebow has to forfeit his last game as an alligator, will he start crying again?
Atlanta Gator
July 20th, 2010
6:47 pm
I am a little bit frustrated today, perhaps prematurely so, but frustrated nevertheless. The Pouncey brothers are both stellar athletes who have contributed greatly to the program and stayed out of trouble. By all accounts, Mike and Maurkice were good students and model citizens. Of course I hope the allegation against Maurkice Pouncey is not true. No program in the country has worked harder at NCAA compliance since 1990 than the Florida Gators, and this allegation was self-reported to the NCAA by Urban Meyer and Jeremy Foley. No one knows for sure if it’s true or not, but I am satisfied that the coach, athletic director and institution have met their obligations. That’s the difference between Florida and USC: no one in Gainesville is trying to cover anything up or ignore a possible violation. The worst that could happen is that the Gators would have to vacate their Sugar Bowl win. At the end of the day, the integrity of the institution is a lot more meaningful than any football game, season or program. Based on today’s headlines, it appears even the new president of USC understands that.
Les is more STUPID
July 20th, 2010
6:49 pm
Jesus, you can tell when the Dawgs are gonna suck because the so called fans won’t quit barking before a damn game is played. Once the games start they are always brought back down to reality which they always refuse to accept. Who gives a crap about stats from last year? Just get your ass to the GA Dome in December and then talk to me about how much better Ealey is than Ingram.
Tide Rising
July 20th, 2010
6:50 pm
Beast,
Funny thing about a delusional dawg fan like Les. He didn’t mention that Chris Rainey averaged 6.5 ypc last year and that Jeff Demps averageed 7.5 ypc.
Going by Les’s stats those 2 should be fighting each other for the Heisman. Rainey could well get that chance if he fills the percy harvin role and Demps may go down as one of the highest ypc backs ever. He just doesn’t tote the rock a lot because of his size. Funny that Les doesn’t bring up those stats.
Beast from the East
July 20th, 2010
6:52 pm
AG,
Have you heard how this alleged payment was first discovered? I’d be interested to see how this story started. I hope it’s not true, but if it is then we’ll just have to take our lumps and move forward.
Beast from the East
July 20th, 2010
6:55 pm
Tide,
Are you beginning to think that Les is actually named Patrick Sulley? I think he is and he’s just on to a new topic since the hot-seat talk has died down with Richt.
Tide Rising
July 20th, 2010
6:58 pm
Atlanta Gator,
It gets worse for everyone. Now ALabama’s Marcel Dareus is said to have attended a party in South Beach given by the agent. ALabama’s compliance is investigating it now. If Dareus accepted flight and lodging then obviously we would rule him ineligible for the upcoming year or suspend him several games and make him pay back the money. Even if he paid for the trip himself he will get suspended by Saban for being close to an agent and possibly suspended for the year. The only good thing is that it happened after the season and so if his elgibility is compromised it will not be an institutional matter. He will simply be ruled ineligible.
UF will just have to vacate the Sugar Bowl win if true in their case but nothing serious will become of that either.
Because of the wide ranging number of schools and players and this agent it looks like the NCAA is going to view this as an agent problem. The agent that is putting these players careers in jeopardy needs to go to jail. In Bama its a felony and in FLorida its a 2nd class felony to get a player to sign while still playing college ball. This guy needs to fry.
Tide Rising
July 20th, 2010
6:59 pm
Beast,
Patrick Lester Sulley? Sounds like he’s been found out.
Beast from the East
July 20th, 2010
7:06 pm
Tide,
Hadn’t heard that about Dareus. Sounds like this agent is just running wild. He needs to have his license revoked and spend a couple of years behind bars. He’s putting several universities in harm’s way in order to make a buck. I’d really like to see the NCAA go after this guy and send a message.
Razorblade
July 20th, 2010
7:25 pm
How is Ealey going to win the Heisman for a team that will probably lose 5 or 6 games? Who are the losses to be: USC, Ark, UF, Aub., and look out for UK and Miss. St., both away games, and maybe GaT. Don’t think the voters will go for a guy who plays on a very mediocre team!
TampaGator
July 20th, 2010
7:27 pm
I have watched both Mr. Richardson and Mr Ealey play college footall…and Mr. Ealey is “No” Mr. Richardson when it comes to running, blocking, pass receiving, and understanding the game of football. Richardson does it all…and does it all very well. Richardson might be better than Ingram…and Ingram is better than everyone else that plays RB in college football. Enough said. Mr. Ealey is not half the blocker, pass receiver, and general overall football player that Richardson is. Gosh….I wish the guy has come to his second choice…Florida. Last year’s SEC championship game would have ended in a different score if he had…he is that good.
Beast from the East
July 20th, 2010
7:32 pm
TampaGator,
I don’t think I’d go that far. Bama dominate the line of scrimmage on both sides of the ball. We could have had Emmitt back there and still registered a loss. That being said, your point is well taken.
@ Mr Pitdog
July 20th, 2010
7:41 pm
The answer is zero.
GrantParkGator
July 20th, 2010
9:04 pm
From all the rumored info coming out tomorrow UGA, Clemson and LSU will have players named into this agent’s party. Also the Pouncey’s have provided University Police copies of bank/cc statements and phone records over the last 48 hours.
Smits
July 20th, 2010
9:07 pm
Right on Dog fans. Coach Richt wins 95% of the games when he gets an RB who breaks 100 on the ground. Dogs running game is top 5 in the country now, bout 250 a pop consistently, really hit stride over last 5 or 6 weeks. No doubt King or Ealey will bust 100 a game. Which, if you look at Coach Richt’s record when a guy busts 100 on the ground, pretty easy to see a 12 or 13 win season, despite what the Bama fan here thinks. Never really compared Wshaun to Ingram or Richardson’s freshman season, but yes, he does beat them both pretty badly. He’s an impressive guy, no doubt.
Jim
July 20th, 2010
9:12 pm
Demps & Rainey got less than 6 carries total in the SEC Championship because of their fumbling problems. Urban Meyer just doesn’t trust either of them to tote the ball, understandably so. But I hope Meyer gives them both 20 carries a game, that’s 3 or 4 fumbles a game for Georgia’s new defense.
Grant
July 20th, 2010
9:14 pm
Really is funny watching the Alabama fans, trying to explain away how Washaun Ealey’s 5.7 yards a carry as a freshman, isn’t better than Ingram or Richardson’s 5.1 yards a carry as freshman. Of course, it is better, it’s actually more than 1/2 yard per carry better than either one. Gotta love those Alabama blindies.
Shoeless Joe
July 20th, 2010
9:18 pm
You can always tell when Alabama Tide’s going to have a bad year. It’s when fans start bragging about how great Nick Saban, or Mark Ingram, or Trent Richardson is. They do it every year, and 9 times out of 10, Alabama dissapoints.
#2 BAMA FAN
July 20th, 2010
10:36 pm
Marcel Dareus is not the sharpest knife in the drawer. How could you let youself and team down by going to South Beach to the agent party. Marcel is a top ten pick in the NFL and now who knows if will
able to play this year. I was hoping everybody who plays for Bama would remember Andre Smith problem and use some common sense but that is not going to happen!! RTR
Shug's fan
July 20th, 2010
10:41 pm
How does the NCAA stop the players from talking/ dealing with agents ? Very simply…by correctimg an extremely unfair situation. The college players deserve a payday of an agreed amount to be paid by the schools. After all, THEY are the reason that the athletic departments are pulling in all these big bucks! This is an injustice who’s time to correct has now come!
Tide Rising
July 20th, 2010
10:50 pm
Beast,
Its all over the bama message boards about Dareus. Doesn’t mean anything yet. He may have just paid his own way and just gone to the party and everything may be on the up and up. Could be the same with the other players who attended the party and one poster above says it could be Georgia, LSU, and Clemson players that this agent had come to his party in South Beach. Makes you wonder how many players from different teams he had his hooks into and how all these different players paid for transportation, lodging, meals, etc. to Miami.
Saban talked about it at Media days today and talked specifically about the Dareus situation and an agent from what I’ve seen. Dareus may well have not done anything wrong but it doesn’t matter. He broke a team rule about talking to and socializing with agents and will get suspended if not booted from the team. Saban booted Andre Smith before the sugar bowl just for talking with an agent. He hadn’t even violated any ncaa rules.
Whatever the outcome I hope he gets charged with a felony in several different states,loses his license, and serves some jail time. Scumbag ratturd.
Tide Rising
July 20th, 2010
10:58 pm
Grant and shoeless Joe,
If you can’t understand that stats don’t always tell the true picture of what’s going on then its obvious to me you never took a stats class in college. Bottom line is that Ingram averaged 6.1 yds per carry vs all competition while Ealey had 5.7 yds per carry vs all competition. Ingram is better. Plain and simple. Your dawg friend is trying to make the absurd argument that Ealey’s freshman stats were better than Ingram’s freshman stats and that therefore Ealey is better this year. Quite moronic.
And Ealey simpley doesn’t have the rushing stats against sec foes that Trent Richardson does either. Ealey’s stats are padded more by noncon games and the Tennessee Tech game in particular. When Ealey has a breakout game against a great defense like Florida or Texas like Richardson did then I’ll drink the kool-aide. Till then he’s not in the same league as Richardson or Ingram.
Kelsey
July 20th, 2010
11:13 pm
Agreed, Ealey’s far beyond where either Alabama back was their freshman year, really outgained them, 5.7 yards per carry to 5 yardsa carry, if those Alabama backs were better, they should have outgained him. 5.7 ypc is quite impressive for a freshman RB in the SEC who only gave up 1 fumble all season. If they’re better, they should have beat 5.7, neither did, end of story.
Last time I check, all the games count, and the Heisman didn’t ask Ingram which of his yards or td’s came against non-SEC opponents. What a dumb point.
Up with Football
July 20th, 2010
11:18 pm
Don’t Bama fans realize, if they’ve spent 2 pages here, trying to explain why neither of their backs outrushed Ealey’s 5.7 yards a carry average–freshman stats to freshman stats, yet are somehow ‘better’ than Ealey???, that Ealey’s pretty good, to be in the conversation with the Heisman trophy winner, and the National Champs?
Kovyoverrated
July 20th, 2010
11:35 pm
I love when the bulldoggies get fired up. It is really funny. I’d like to see Ealey get up in front of the entire nation and put together a speech like Ingram did. But, he’ll never get the chance now, will he? HA HA! Ingram’s BACKUP, Richardson, is better than anything in Athens. You keep comparing Richt and Saban and enjoy playing in the Peach Bowl. HA HA! WOOF WOOF WOOF
SEC All the way
July 20th, 2010
11:45 pm
Tony – please write a column about why there aren’t laws that hold agents accountable when they run violate NCAA regulations. In the Bush case, the Pouncey case, the South and North Carolina cases and the Alabama case, all are due to agents providing some type of compensation to players. In some cases, the schools will pay by vacating wins, reduced scholarships, etc., which also impacts players, schools, and coaches, who abided by the rules (Kiffin is an exception), while the cause of the problem, the unsavory agent, has a tremendous upside to giving an athlete money early, but very little downside. If we enact laws to allow schools to sue for damages, this may provide enough disincentive to persuade agents to follow the NCAA rules (which mirror the new laws). It just seems in some cases, that the wrong parties pay the penalty. Let’s fix that.
Kovyoverrated
July 20th, 2010
11:50 pm
What’s the bulldoggies’ gameplan for this year? Black socks? White helmets? Green shoes? How about blue wristbands? HA HA. Did I say Peach Bowl? That’s way too high. You’ll lose at least 5 and play before new years day. HA HA, I cannot stop laughing! Florida could beat you with their 2nd and 3rd teamers! Look, just deal with the fact that you are a 2nd tier program. You guys will all have high blood pressure and other medical problems. !LIGHT BULB! Maybe we need to get a fan from BAMA, FLA, and LSU and have an episode of INTERVENTION for you bullpuppy fans.
MikeP
July 21st, 2010
12:08 am
Marcel Darius hasn’t played in any games since his agent-financed trip, so UAT won’t have to forfeit any games.
Saban won’t have any say in whether Darius plays this year. The NCAA will declare Darius and the others that were partying with the agent in Miami ineligible.
Kennesaw "Mountain" Landis
July 21st, 2010
7:33 am
Hey Shoeless Joe – how many years have you and the fleabag nation ran your mouths during the preseason? You know it’s gonna be a bad year for UGAy when the actual games start. Take all your top 10’s finishes, preseason #1 rankings, moral victories and other BS and sit on them and rotate.
UGA FOOTBALL = IRRELEVANT !
Grant
July 21st, 2010
8:05 am
Critics said the same thing about richt in 2001 & 2006. richt finished #2 & #3 the next season in 2002 & 2007. Critics are always dead wrong about Richt. Georgia will finish in top 3 in 2010 again, without a doubt.
Wayne
July 21st, 2010
8:09 am
I can tell by the criticism how good Georgia will be. Remember back in 79′ after the terrible season, critics went haywire. Then Georgia went 12-0 and won the National Championship in 80′.
Also remember back in 2001, and again about 5 years later, the cynics came out of the woodwork. They do when Georgia has a rare bad season. Cynics were clueless al 3 times.
Georgia’s going to win the National Championship in 2010 with Richt, just like 1980, all over again.
Mason
July 21st, 2010
8:12 am
Hey Folks-
Yes, it’s true, Saban almost always tanks after a good year. And yes, Saban’s only had 1 consecutive top 10 finish in his entire coaching career. 98% chance Alabama will bite the dust again under Saban, and dissapoint, as Saban does so often in his see saw like career.
#2 BAMA FAN
July 21st, 2010
8:25 am
To all the Bama haters get a life!! Saban has had back to back 8-0 seasons in the SEC regular seasons and winning 1 SEC championship!! Saban never has the talent he has at Alabama right
now and with good coaching will win more SEC and NC’S!! RTR
Nesbitt for Heisman
July 21st, 2010
8:27 am
The very, very good Trent Richardson averaged 5.1 yards per carry for Alabama.
Richardson would be starting for every other team in America with the possible exception of Pittsburgh, where they have Dion Lewis.
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A very, very, very good Anthony Allen averaged 9.9 YARDS per carry for Georgia Tech.
……… 6′1″ 228 pound Allen deserves some Press Tony.
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Since you mention Dion Lewis of the Big East,
you could also mention Anthony Allen of the defending ACC Championship Team.
Nesbitt for Heisman
July 21st, 2010
8:32 am
* Typo
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Anthony Allen only averaged 9.7 YARDS per carry for Georgia Tech.
17 out of 20
July 21st, 2010
8:33 am
Mason,
Hilarious that you loser dawg fans think that Bama is just gonna fall right off. Its sad when you are reduced to hoping for other teams to fail. And the Ealey/Mark Ingram and Trent Richardson thing. Give it a rest. Ealey is a nobody compared to the 2 bama backs. He doesn’t deserve to polish their shoes.
Up with Football
July 21st, 2010
8:36 am
Trent Richardson wouldn’t be starting at Georgia. His 5.1 yards per carry as a freshman doesn’t meet the Ealey 5.7 yards per carry as a freshman golden standard.
Richardson would WARM THE BENCH at Georgia.
Mason
July 21st, 2010
8:38 am
Since Saban’s only had one, single, solitary conseuctive top 10 finish, in his ENTIRE coaching career, yes, Alabama will bomb AGAIN as practically all teams under Saban do after good seasons, except once in his entire career. 985 chance Alabama bombs AGAIN in 2010, look for another 7-6 season, like Saban had at Alabama.
Anonymous
July 21st, 2010
9:12 am
Tide Rising:
These guys need to be brought before their respective Bar Associations for ethical consideration.
The standard under which they are to govern themselves is to “avoid even the shadow of impropriety.”
Hardly the case here, it seems.
ALAN G.
July 23rd, 2010
12:11 pm
i hope Pouncey is telling the truth, but how many kids would turn down $100,000 cash, no matter how well you raised your children.Hell,I’d think about it now and I’m over 60
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