Burning questions until MrCFB returns

If we needed any further proof that college football is now a year-round sport, we just got it.

The Braves are in first place and are the hottest team in baseball.

Chipper Jones, a lock-solid Hall of Famer on the first ballot, is thinking about retirement.

The NBA Playoffs between the two most storied franchies in the history of the league are headed to seventh and deciding game.

The Atlanta Hawks just hired a new coach.

But what has been the hottest story in sports for the past three months? College football and the possible changing of the landscape.

Fortunately for the college football fan, cooler heads prevailed and the change will be minimal. And there will be no change for 2010.

What it all means is that this is going to be a very short summer for all of us who care about the sport. SEC Media Days in Birmingham begin on July 21. I have a feeling that is going to get here in a hurry.

So, in order to keep some promises to Mrs. Barnhart, I’m going to take another shot at a vacation that was interrupted by conference expansion. Unless something fairly dramatic happens (and I think we’ve had enough drama for one summer), I’ll be back on July 12.

Until then, let me share some burning questions to get us to the preseason meetings:

1. How would you like to go on the road with Nebraska this season? The Cornhuskers will be playing their final season in the Big 12 and will have conference road trips to Kansas State (Thursday, Oct. 7), Oklahoma State (Oct. 23), Iowa State (Nov. 6), and Texas A&M (Nov. 20). The trips to Stillwater and College Station could be very interesting.

2. Are we really supposed to believe that Pete Carroll was shocked–SHOCKED–at the NCAA penalties against USC? To hear the Carroll tell it, the NCAA just basically made this stuff up about Reggie Bush. He didn’t take the handouts from an agent. His parents didn’t live in a house for which they did not pay. Old Pete, who bolted for the Seattle Seahawks before the sanctions went down, just doesn’t understand how the NCAA reached the conclusions it did.

I heard that somebody else drew this analogy first, but when Carroll went public with his amazement at the NCAA penalties, I was reminded of this famous scene from “Casablanca,” the best movie ever made. Pete Carroll is playing the role of Captain Renault (Claude Rains).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Gf8NK1WAOc

3. Does everybody completely understand what a game-changer the USC sanctions are? Dan Wetzel of Yahoo Sports made this point and I completely agree with it.

http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/news?slug=dw-uscfindings061010

Every now and then the NCAA says “Enough!” and slaps somebody hard. They did it to Alabama in 2002. And it doesn’t have as much to do with overt cheating as it does with the kind of culture schools allow to grow and exist for the sake of recruiting expediency.

This is a very simplistic explanation but it goes something like this: “Come to our school and we’ll treat you like an NFL star BEFORE you become and NFL star. We can’t give you stuff, because that would be wrong. But if you just look hard enough, it’s out there. Now don’t be obvious about it because then we have to do something. But at our school (wink-wink, nod-nod) we’re not going to be looking very hard to catch you doing this stuff.”

Kids are not stupid. They know where the rules are tight and the rules are loose. They are kids. A lot of them want to go where the rules are loose. That’s why the adults have to enforce the rules.

Here’s the big change: Schools have been put on notice that if they recruit an elite athlete like Reggie Bush, they have to double the guard on him. At at the slightest sniff that he or his family have their hands out to anybody, you sit him  down and declare him ineligible. Can you stop it? Of course not. But if you find out about it or even suspect it, you’d better do something about it. That’s the new standard created by the USC case.

The culture, of course, has its roots back in high school and is fostered in the recruiting process with children having press conferences. That’s been going on a long time and that’s not going to change. But the colleges have been put on notice. They have to change.

4. Was conference expansion all about the money? Of course it was about the money. And that is not always a bad thing.

I’m always amused when people say schools shouldn’t go for the money. That’s easy for them to say because they don’t have to pay the bills.

The same people who complain that schools want more money would be the first one standing in line to fire the athletics director if he let a top notch assistant coach get away to a competitor because the AD didn’t want to double the coach’s salary. Those fans who decry the role money plays in the sport would be the same ones who complain that their school doesn’t have an indoor practice facility which puts them at a disadvantage in recruiting.

Are their excesses? Sure there are. Schools are certainly chasing the money so that they can continue to pay their football coach $3 million-plus and build NFL style weight rooms.

But you can’t have it both ways. You can’t demand that your school compete at the highest level and then complain about the steps your school has to take to stay at that level. You are either in or out. There is no middle ground in this game.

Have a great summer, friends. See you on July 12.

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260 comments Add your comment

npgator

June 16th, 2010
8:45 am

First! Finally!

Rimfire

June 16th, 2010
8:51 am

If Momma ain’t happy…no body’s happy. Take care of your homework, Tony!
Appreciate your work this week, though.

Jeepers

June 16th, 2010
8:51 am

Enjoy your time off Tony!

RxDawg

June 16th, 2010
9:00 am

“The Braves are in first place and are the hottest team in baseball.”

Really!? Thats crazy, last I heard they were in last place… I guess you can see how much I keep up with baseball huh. Funny thing is I used to live and breath baseball when I was a kid. That 94 strike still has left a sour taste in my mouth. Honestly, I turned from baseball back then and really haven’t looked back. Well, except for occasionaly going to a game.

I’m sure you all wanted to know my baseball story =/ Carry on.

Baylor Bear

June 16th, 2010
9:02 am

It’s not fair that TEXASS gets all the money!

George P Burdell

June 16th, 2010
9:02 am

Tony, thanks for pointing out “it was about the money. And that is not always a bad thing.” Too many people (including other writers at the AJC) make it sound like the motivation for all of this is “greed”. In addition to the points that you made, I would add a very big point: football is the cash cow that pays for many non-revenue sports at most BCS schools. It’s not only about football practice facilities or coaches’ salaries.

UT96

June 16th, 2010
9:03 am

Bottom line with Tiger High ( Memphis). What do they bring to the table?
Answer: Virtually nothing- a decent basketball team that’s it. Horrible in most other sports including football. Not to mention, they reside in the armpit of the south. Who really enjoys going to Memphis?

Mike

June 16th, 2010
9:07 am

The Big 12 did nothing to correct the unbalanced revenue distribution they have which is what created this mess in the first place. This issue will rear it’s ugly head again in the future as the other conference members sit back and watch Texas and OU get richer and richer.

1eyedJack

June 16th, 2010
9:13 am

“Are their excesses? Sure there are.”

Somethings not quite right “there”, Tony. Don’t give the Nerd’s grammer police any ammunition about your edumacation.

SEC

June 16th, 2010
9:14 am

Tony, if you think Pete Carroll’s statements are insane, you should read the AD Mike Garrett’s remarks about it. USC is on probation because of “jealousy.” “They all (the NCAA) wish they were Trojans.”

WB

June 16th, 2010
9:16 am

Wrong the world cup has been the hottest story. But I wouldn’t expect some redneck to understand that.

RxDawg

June 16th, 2010
9:17 am

1. Hehe, yeh I thought about that one too. I’m sure the remaining Big XII (X) fans will be very welcoming for Nebraska. BUT, I’d rather be Nebraska on those road trips then Texas. For the fans that understand whats really going on, Texas will get all of the (deserved) animosity.

2. I have nothing against Pete. I think college players should get a huge increase in their “scholarship” monies. But USC should be able to sue Pete for some of that salary back and for being neutered and spayed for the next 5 years or so.

3. Yeh, I guess your right Tony. But it’s kind of like pluging holes in water filled bucket of paper mache. Ok, weird analogy, but until the players living a life a little more deserving of their hard work, there will be another school to take USC’s place. I hope it wont be UGA.

4. Good point Tony. I think what was really eating at the fans was the way the “system” was being used to make more money. The Pac 10 thought “hey let’s go from 10 teams and 1 BCS bowl to 16 teams and 2 BCS bowls!” I’ll let you do the math. It was lame and cheapining the game overall and almost everyone knew it and felt it. It was also leaving some fine institutions to hang out to dry (Kansas, Missouri, etc.) Why not let the SEC divide up into 3 divisions of 4 teams each and we’ll ask for 3 BCS bowls for each division winner! Over the top? You betcha, but that was the direction the Pac 10 was trying to go.

5. Hey, that’s their perogative. If a conference wants to accept money (and control) from a supporter of Memphis than who should stop them? Depends on the conference if anyone would accept this. I agree it sounds like that conference would be the Big East if anyone does it at all.

ryan

June 16th, 2010
9:23 am

Awfully quiet from the Pac 10.

If I were the commish, I’d go invite Kansas, Kansas State, Iowa State and Missouri, the spurned Big12ers.

Don’t you think they’d listen to any offer that would be the same in terms of revenue, and would give them a chance to stick it to the Big 12?

college is forever

June 16th, 2010
9:28 am

http://collegelunchboxes.com In the south, Football and especially the SEC are king everything else is, including the NFL is playing second fiddle. Fathers Day is almost here check out the UGA classic tin lunchboxes. Go Dawgs!!!

Miles

June 16th, 2010
9:28 am

Pete Carroll: COVERT IDIOT! Fred Smith (Skull and Bones member): OVERT IDIOT!

Yeppie

June 16th, 2010
9:29 am

The alignment ultimate driving decision was money. The other factors of consideration was academics and some other factors.
The PAC commish MADE ONE MAJOR MISTAKE
1. Over the weekend he wanted to remove OK Stste and replace with Kansas.
That did not sit well with Texas as Texas gave it word to OK state and Boon Pickins. West coast needs to realize that Texas is more like the South then the West. When you give your word it has meaning. Needless, to say that was the variable that caused the PAC deal to crumble. Texas keeps its status as the top academic school in the Big 12 and does not burn bridges with as the PAC commish was about to do by wanting to drop OK state for Kansas.

Yeppie

June 16th, 2010
9:31 am

Pete Carroll had to know someting. I have a feeling Lane kiffin knew about if while as an assistant at USC. So the NCAA really had motive to bring strong sanctions. Good for the NCAA this time.

Yeppie

June 16th, 2010
9:34 am

The revenue is shared in big 12. However, the additional money above the guarnateed is not shared. IT IS EARNED. If your team is solicited to be on TV for big games and recieves extra money it is the institutions right not to share. Nothing stopping any of the other teams in the big 12 to do the same. Not a socialistic conference.

ryan

June 16th, 2010
9:34 am

Adding Kansas, Kansas State, Iowa State, Missouri, and Utah would also get the Pac 10 to 16 teams…

Yeppie

June 16th, 2010
9:38 am

ryan.. It gets the numbers if the pac wants to have 16 teams. However, that does not bring in the TV market and distributes more money to teams that do contribute leverage in TV contracts. Missouri is over rated. Like a North east market. More into pro baseball and pro football. Not a cray football fan base.

G8R GRAD

June 16th, 2010
9:40 am

Read in today’s AJC:

“Highly-touted linebacker Jarvis Jones leaving Southern Cal to join the Bulldogs.”

Like rats from a sinking ship.
Couldn’t happen to a nicer guy (Kiffen).

Fast Eddie

June 16th, 2010
9:42 am

Tony, you are in dire need of a copy editor.

1eyedJack, learn to spell grammar correctly. It makes your tongue- in-cheek edumacation” rather lame.

jack f

June 16th, 2010
9:43 am

No comment is more inane than “it’s not fair.” Nothing is fair, do the best you can with what you get and the hell with the things you have no control over.

Atlanta Gator

June 16th, 2010
9:47 am

The unraveling of the Trojan dream has begun—-

Jarvis Jones is transferring from USC to UGA, even if he must sit out a year. Given his history of recent injury, it may be the best thing for him to come and get healthy.

Expect more recruits and curretn players that USC cherry-picked from around the country to start look longingly at the home state and region schools that originally recruited them.

G8R GRAD

June 16th, 2010
9:53 am

Oh, and regarding Carroll and his being shocked – SHOCKED – at the NCAA sanctions:

What a disingenuous tool.

POAD

June 16th, 2010
9:54 am

UT96 WTF is in Knoxville? Who the hell goes to knoxville for anything but a Vols game? Memphis is a great town and has much more to offer than knoxville ever dreamed of.

SimpleDawg

June 16th, 2010
9:55 am

Back when all of this Pac-10 expansion blather about raiding the Big XII began, I kept saying that there was no way in heaven or hell that Texas, T A&M, and Oklahoma would shirk their heritage and traditions to join the Surfer Dude, Tree Huggin’, Cactus Conference. I wasn’t too terribly surprised that Nebraska bolted for the Big 10+1, given their envy and animosity aimed at the Longhorns, and Colorado’s move to the Pac-10 makes sense – they fit in with the Cali-style much more than the Cowboy culture of the southwest. But I am a little surprised they aren’t going to add a couple of capable teams to remain a 12 team conference and maintain a conference championship game.

Casablanca is one of my favorite movies. Pete and Lil’ Lane would both fit quite nicely in the role of Captain Renault….”I go with the prevailing winds.” Both are of questionable character and floating allegiances….and completely blind to any corruption around them from which they derive benefit.

When I first heard that the FedEx CEO had made the statement about $10 million per year to the BCS conference who would take Memphis, I thought….”Has this guy flipped out, or is he that delusional.” I’m sure the FedEx stock holders were impressed with his visionary thoughts and his lack of a brain filter to seine these idle mental ramblings.

Now we know that the N on Nebraska’s helmets doesn’t really stand for knowledge. It stands for Numbers…..maybe they’ll change their colors to green.

It’s gonna be an interesting year….a very interesting year indeed.

Atlanta Gator

June 16th, 2010
9:58 am

Yeppie—-

The recent NCAA penalty pattern is to vacate games in which ineligible athletes played, without mercy and without fear of collateral damage. See FSU’s vacated wins and Bobby Bowden’s lost dream of being the all-time winningest major college football coach. See FSU’s lost national track championship. See Alabama being forced to vacate wins in 1993, 2005, 2006 and 2007.

I suggest you check with the egomaniacal Texas boosters and make sure that the Longhorns aren’t headed for a major fall, too. I’m old enough to remember how the old SWC ended in money-fueled disgrace that brought down a governor and exterminated the storied SMU football program . . . .

Black Coffee & Bourbon

June 16th, 2010
10:00 am

So is the end result of this that the winner of the Oklahoma vs. Texas game gets a free ride into the national championship game? The perception is that they are better than the Big Ten (+2) so the layoff from not having a championship game should not harm them as much. Strength of schedule does not come into play anymore and aside from the occasional upset one of those two teams will be going 9-0 in the Big XII (-2). What a joke since the rest of the teams in the “new” Big XII (-2) are a football midgets.

Regardless, I think that expansion is only on a short hiatus. With the Big XII (-2) top teams getting $20-25 million/year how long is it until Jerry Jones convinces the conference to make a play for Arkansas? When it comes to cash the top Big XII (-2) will now rake in more than the SEC teams. Should be interesting.

DP

June 16th, 2010
10:10 am

On point #1, I don’t think there will be that much hostility to Nebraska on those road trips. Fans of those schools are more likely to envy Nebraska for being strong enough to get a good deal to get out from under the thumb of Texas and wish they were in the same position.

On point #5 and to build on the Casablanca theme, I’m shocked, truly shocked, that a corporate CEO is willing to spend shareholder money to advance a personal agenda. Fred Smith is plenty rich enough to use his own money to buy Memphis a spot in a BCS conference.

ryan

June 16th, 2010
10:16 am

Yeppie,

All the fuss over TV markets is overrated.

A 16 team Pac-10 would get a better contract, because more teams means greater chances of compelling matchups.

Plus, the basketball value of Kansas is nothing to sneeze at.

Too many people focus on TV markets. With college sports, ratings have more to do with national fanbases than local markets. A Rutgers has a large TV market, but nobody is watching Rutgers sports. Nebraska, in the middle of nowhere, draws far more viewers than Rutgers, because it’s a stronger program.

With Kansas State and Missouri football on board, and Kansas basketball on board, the Pac 10 could absolutely draw a significantly greater TV contract.

help, I live in Ga

June 16th, 2010
10:19 am

I said it before and I’ll say it again. SC hiring Kiffen was like spitting in the face of the NCAA. Can’t you just hear the debate going on with the infractions committee: “We shouldn’t come down so hard on the Trojans because it was a one time thing and they seem to playing nice now. What? They hired who? Nail em.”
Couldn’t have happened to a nicer guy or a more arrogant program. It gives me the warm fuzzies. It’s like a good ending to a bad movie. Now lets close the book on Lame. By talking about him, we afford him more respect than he deserves.

G8R GRAD

June 16th, 2010
10:20 am

DP:

” . . I’m shocked, truly shocked, that a corporate CEO is willing to spend shareholder money to advance a personal agenda.”

He can’t.
At least not without his counsel explaining the pricipals behind a shareholder derivative action.

G8R GRAD

June 16th, 2010
10:20 am

Sorry:
“principles”

Atlanta Gator

June 16th, 2010
10:30 am

Yeppie, Yeppie, Yeppie.

“Socialistic conference?” You are kidding right? In the SEC, you play eight conference games and you get an equal share of the revenue regardless of your win-loss record. Even our low men on the totem pole contribute by adding tough competition. In any given year, Kentucky can upset Georgia, or Vanderbilt upset Auburn, Ole Miss can upset Florida . . . . In the past 20 years, six different teams have won the SEC championship (Auburn, Alabama, Florida, Georgia, LSU, Tennessee) and two others have won their division and played for the SEC championship (Arkansas, Mississippi State), four different teams have won eight national consensus or BCS championships and played for two more (Alabama, Florida, LSU, Tennessee). Every team in the conference has been to a bowl game. That’s what competition does. It makes you better, harder, tougher. That’s why a two-loss LSU can win the national title.

In contrast when an Oklahoma or Texas completes their Big XII (X) conference schedule, they have played one maybe two hard games. They have not been tested, and often wilt in the face of a tougher out-of-conference opponent. Oklahoma in 2003, and 2004, 2008. Texas in 2009. How many Big XII (X) teams have played for the national title in the last 20 years? What’s the BigTXII (X) winning percentage in those games. Ahh. I see.

he SEC is socialistic? Hardly. The SEC is a partnership of relative equals, not a Big XII (X) plantation of a few haves and many have-nots. Every SEC school pulls its weight and earns its share. Socialistic? Riiight. Can the Big XII (X) spell p-a-r-t-n-e-r-s-h-i-p? Try it, pardner, repeat after me . . . . I might also point out how many former SWC and Big XII (X) conference sisters Texas has, the ones who have departed willingly, and not been dumped in another move to screw her “partners” . . . Arkansas, Colorado, Nebraska . . . Missouri desperate to escape the asylum . . . Texas A&M willing to leave Texas at the altar for the SEC. Yup. If the SEC represents “socialism,” then Texas represents state-sponsored and controlled capitalism (i.e. fascism) run amok. It’s bully-boy extortion. It’s a house-rigged roulette wheel. It’s a bribed jury. It’s a Sherman Anti-Trust Act violation. It’s a violation of the Thirteenth Amendment. It sure as hell isn’t free-market competition by any definition known to free-market economists.

And, no, Alabama, Florida, LSU and Tennessee would not screw our conference partners like Texas does, if we could, because, well, then they wouldn’t be “partners,” would they?

BTW, why will anyone watch this vaunted Longhorn Sports Network? Afterall, they don’t play anyone other than Oklahoma . . . . the outcomes are predetermined. No one other than Texas can ever win, and no one other than diehard Longhorns fans will ever watch. Sell that product in the free market.

Bulldog59

June 16th, 2010
10:35 am

Tony, the youtube, Captain Renault/Peter Carroll analogy, is dead-on and hilarious! Good one.

Atlanta Gator

June 16th, 2010
10:42 am

Oh, I omitted one of the exaggerated, hyperbolic and over-the-top metaphors regarding Texas . . . .

Texas is the playground bully stealing the skinny kid’s lunch money.

Okay, well, maybe that’s not really an exaggeration.

Volunteer Nation

June 16th, 2010
10:42 am

Bama cheats and oversigns. That’s the only way they win!

POAD

June 16th, 2010
10:43 am

DawginLex have you not started your crying on this blog yet?

The Rational SEC Fan

June 16th, 2010
10:44 am

Volunteer Nation,

Just be happy that Alabama doesn’t beat you up and take your lunch money.

RxDawg

June 16th, 2010
10:47 am

“Colorado’s move to the Pac-10 makes sense – they fit in with the Cali-style much more than the Cowboy culture of the southwest.”

This doesn’t make sense to me. Have you ever been to Colrado? It’s full of ranches, cowboys, and steakhouses. Last time I checked there wasn’t a lot of surfing going on in the rockies state.

DP

June 16th, 2010
10:48 am

G8R Grad, you’re naive. The corporate counsel serves at the pleasure of the CEO. And the shareholder base of large public companies is highly fragmented with large money managers/fund companies like Fidelity, Vanguard and TIAA-CREF as the largest shareowners. Institutional shareholders almost never challenge management because they manage pension funds and 401K plans for large corporations. And the Board of Directors of most public companies, particularly successful ones who have been run by one CEO for a long time like FedEx, are handpicked by the CEO.

With regard to using corporate funds for CEO purposes, did you ever see what GE was doing for Jack Welch long after his retirement? It was only made public because his wife’s attorney made it public during divorce proceedings: fresh flowers daily, a corporate penthouse, use of the company jet, season tickets to the Red Sox, it went on and on. Even after Welch was rich beyond what anybody could ever spend after his career at GE, GE was still funding his first class lifestyle in retirement.

Mikey in the SAV

June 16th, 2010
10:50 am

World cup?
sorry…cant hear you…some sort of horn blowing in the background.

G8R GRAD

June 16th, 2010
10:51 am

AG:

“BTW, why will anyone watch this vaunted Longhorn Sports Network? Afterall, they don’t play anyone other than Oklahoma . . . . the outcomes are predetermined. No one other than Texas can ever win, and no one other than diehard Longhorns fans will ever watch. Sell that product in the free market.”

He speaketh the truth.
(snicker)

The Rational SEC Fan

June 16th, 2010
10:51 am

How about “Texas is a wife-beater, and 7 of the remaining ten Big X members are abused Mormon spouses.”

DawginLex

June 16th, 2010
10:54 am

POAD,

You can post whatver you want, whenever you want.
Your blog handle is offensive.
You know it.
I know it.
Everyone on these blogs knows it.

You talk a big game and constantly bash UGA. We get it. You hate UGA. My bet is you are 5′8″ tall and weigh close to 400 pounds and have never done anything athletically in your entire life. You probably couldn’t get into UGA and you have bitter, intense hatred for all things UGA.

You have called me out. I am responding for the one and only time.
If you would care to discuss things in person, let me know. I will be in attendance at several UGA games this year.

Let me know gerbil boy.

1eyedJack

June 16th, 2010
10:54 am

Fast Eddie

I don’t give a damn for a man who can only spell a word one way.

Atlanta Gator

June 16th, 2010
10:55 am

DP—-

Speaking as someone who has actually served in that role, I can assure you that the general counsel advised the CEO to clarify that he was referring to $10 million from his own annual bonus. Yes, the shareholders of a public corporation are fragmented, but I suspect CALPERS, TIAA-CREF and Morgan Stanley might have some influence on the directors.

RxDawg

June 16th, 2010
10:55 am

Atlanta Gator

June 16th, 2010
10:30 am

Preach on brother!! :lol:

G8R GRAD

June 16th, 2010
10:55 am

DP:

Naivity asdide:

Post-employment benefits stpulated to at an arm’s length employment contract negotiation, however offensive to you and me, are not subject to shareholder review.

Sorry.

Atlanta Gator

June 16th, 2010
10:57 am

For the benefit of us older bloggers, can someone give me a hint what the heck “POAD” means? I suspect I’m missing out on some serious smack talk.

Atlanta Gator

June 16th, 2010
10:58 am

RxDawg—-

When I get warmed up, I do a pretty good facsimile of an East Texas Baptist preacher.

G8R GRAD

June 16th, 2010
11:00 am

AG:

Piss On A Dawg

Atlanta Gator

June 16th, 2010
11:02 am

Ah. That is kinda mean.

RxDawg

June 16th, 2010
11:03 am

That was strange….Dawginlex answered AG’s question. Then after refreshing, it was removed and G8R GRAD answered it. O.o

leland

June 16th, 2010
11:03 am

Dear Mr. CF–I like your writing best when you use more (and variable) spacing between paragraphs. Your pal, Leland

Longhorn Spin

June 16th, 2010
11:05 am

Tony, sorry if you’ve already read this but if not, this is great stuff! Enjoy your holiday.

http://texas.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1094753

DawginLex

June 16th, 2010
11:05 am

Maybe they have decided to ban his handle and it is such that you can’t even write it in a post.

G8R GRAD

June 16th, 2010
11:06 am

RxDawg:

I thought I saw that too.
I just wrote it off to Mad Cow Disease!

Atlanta Gator

June 16th, 2010
11:07 am

While I’m getting all of my questions answered today, who the heck is this Leland character who addresses Tony Barnhart and Bark Madley like long-lost fraternity brothers? Anyone?

DawginLex

June 16th, 2010
11:07 am

Maybe they are banning me too.

but they can’t do that because I’m still here.

Welcome to the Twilight Zone.

G8R GRAD

June 16th, 2010
11:10 am

And AG:

Who you calling “older?”

Atlanta Gator

June 16th, 2010
11:11 am

DawginLex—-

The likelihood of anyone getting banned from an AJC blog is really slim. Somebody has to complain, and the AJC staff has to actually react.

The Twilight Zone is where the abused wife gives the abusive husband $35 to $40 million to stay with her.

Atlanta Gator

June 16th, 2010
11:11 am

Speaking for myself only, 8.

POAD

June 16th, 2010
11:12 am

Yes DawginLex Tony told me I couldn’t use my full name. Actually a Bulldog fan CUZ and 45APC cut my name to POAD and Mayn dawg fans prefer to us that handle. Most people know by know what POAD stands for.

Pi$$onaDawg

June 16th, 2010
11:13 am

is this better?

POAD

June 16th, 2010
11:14 am

Sorry Tony I just did’t it this one time I am Back to POAD like you asked.

G8R GRAD

June 16th, 2010
11:16 am

WTF, Tony?

I was just answering the man’s question!

G8R GRAD

June 16th, 2010
11:17 am

Dang, POAD, it’s gettin’ testy around here!
I just got censored for spelling out the first letter of your acronym!

Urban "D-Bag" Cryer

June 16th, 2010
11:17 am

DawginLex

June 16th, 2010
11:19 am

i just asked my 10:54 am post to be removed.

The s GA redneck in me rears its ugly head too many times…………………………………

G8R GRAD

June 16th, 2010
11:21 am

AG:

“The Twilight Zone is where the abused wife gives the abusive husband $35 to $40 million to stay with her.”

Pardon my ignorance, but . . . ?

POAD

June 16th, 2010
11:25 am

DawginLex don’t like my name so what. Now back to REGULAR Programming.

DawginLex

June 16th, 2010
11:25 am

TB,

In response to your question:

1. No
2. No
3. Lane Kiffin karma
4. Yes
5. No

Pago Pago Dawg

June 16th, 2010
11:26 am

We really don’t give a hoot about the $poiled pro $port$ folks.
And for obvious reasons, mike garrett will not be fired! {:”}

DP

June 16th, 2010
11:26 am

G8R Grad, do you really believe post employment agreements like the one Jack Welch had (I believe it was reduced out of embarrassment once it became public) are negotiated in a real “arm’s length” transaction? I’m sure the terms of it were set while Welch was still CEO. Who from GE was going to dig in and risk his or her career doing hardball negotiating with Welch and his attorney like GE would do on a real arms length business contract like selling jet engines? How do fresh flowers in Welch’s personal apartment (also paid for by GE) get into an arm’s length negotiation for a guy who makes millions of dollars per year from his GE pension?

For all practical purposes, FedEx is the corporate piggybank of Fred Smith to use as he sees fit. If he wants to spend $10 million a year in perpetuity to put Memphis in a BCS conference because his kid plays backup QB there and it enhances his status in Memphis, one of his subordinates can easily craft a “business case” that shows FedEx will get a return on the money because of bigger games in Memphis, more visibility for the FedEx logo at UM facilities, etc.

G8R GRAD

June 16th, 2010
11:27 am

DawginLex:

Two perspectives:

“Admitting you have a problem is the first step to recovery.”

and

“Rehab is for quitters!”

DawginLex

June 16th, 2010
11:29 am

thanks g8r grad

Despite being a college graduate working in a good job with a family, the s ga redneck bloodline still remains from 30 years ago where fighting was the norm.

Should I do like the shark on finding nemo and keep repeating:

Nerds are friends, not punching bags
Nerds are friends, not punching bags

??????????????????????????

G8R GRAD

June 16th, 2010
11:31 am

DawginLex:

My Momma taught me that it’s not nice to make fun of the handicapped (POAD)!

RxDawg

June 16th, 2010
11:32 am

Just keep swimming…just keep swimming…

DawginLex

June 16th, 2010
11:32 am

No comment.

I’m gonna quit while I’m (way) behind.

gotta go back to work

The fries are burning

:) :) :)

Atlanta Gator

June 16th, 2010
11:33 am

8—-

It’s another metaphor for Texas and the Little IX.

“Rehab is for quitters.” Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. Sniff laugh, snorffle, spit up coffee.

G8R GRAD

June 16th, 2010
11:37 am

AG:

Not original material, but niether is, “Strangers Have The Best Candy!”

Delbert D.

June 16th, 2010
11:39 am

That really clears things up for me. Pete Carroll’s next job is U.S. Senator.

Delbert D.

June 16th, 2010
11:43 am

Atlanta Gator – The USSR and Czechoslovakia were partners. Right up until the tanks rolled into Prague.

G8R GRAD

June 16th, 2010
11:45 am

AG:

Oh, and here I was rinning abusive relationships that were that solvent through my head:

Whitney & Bobby?

Britney & Federline?

the list goes on . . .

G8R GRAD

June 16th, 2010
11:46 am

Delbert:

You can’t be serious!

Delbert D.

June 16th, 2010
11:47 am

G8R GRAD – You are right, I can’t be.

softbatch

June 16th, 2010
11:48 am

Well of course college expansion is going to trump Atlanta-specific sports. Take the Braves and ESPN. ESPN cares more about the Mets and Phillies than the Braves. Of course they’re going to talk about college expansion more than the Braves.

Red

June 16th, 2010
11:49 am

The problem comes with all of the high school dog show type games – Under Armor, Army All American, etc. These kids are celebrities before they even play one game in college. They are exposed to glamor and fame immediately. Mom and dad are identified in all of the circus and the behind the scenes maneuvering begins. There is no way to track all of this. Pre-paid cell phones, emails, Twitter, Facebook, and MySpace.

I think the athletic departments now see they cannot rely on the coaches and their staff for doing this. The coaches are portable. Many just care about the ‘now’ and winning to get them to the next level. It’s business to them and until they are personally held accountable, this culture will never change. People like Carroll can run a scorched earth policy and watch the NCAA take 5 years to dig up dirt. By then Carroll is gone to the Pro’s and untouchable for the problems back at USC. Yeah, he tarnishes his image but the wins and program he maintained wipe that tarnished image away. He gets away and the school is left holding the bag.

So this leaves the Presidents and AD’s left to impose their own policing actions. We’ll see what comes of that. As for USC, they clearly thought they would walk away with a much lighter sentence. Otherwise why bring a magnet for more scrutiny like Kiffin? Had Texas, Oklahoma, etc. come, he would have had to seriously “up” his game to compete and perhaps cross the line even more.

Atlanta Gator

June 16th, 2010
11:51 am

Easy, Delbert. I got called out yesterday for my comment about the coming SEC Anschluss regarding Clemson and Virginia Tech.

Delbert D.

June 16th, 2010
11:52 am

College recruiting is in Dire Straits. Money for nothin’ and your chicks for free.

Delbert D.

June 16th, 2010
11:56 am

Atlanta Gator – Yeah, well, how did Hitler end up? The Russians, well, one of their guys ended up with the NY Nets.

dawgfan

June 16th, 2010
12:01 pm

The same people that whine about money in college football are the same people that trash a junior for leaving early and taking the NFL money. How stupid are these people? If money is so insignificant, why don’t you quit your jobs and go volunteer at a soup kitchen? Its just money right? Tell your boss you don’t want that big raise because you’re in it for the love of the job and not the money. What a bunch of morons. If you wouldn’t leave college early for millions of dollars you are simply too stupid to insult. Seriously. And yes, college football is a business and people make money off of it. I know. What a crime. Let’s move to Cuba.

Geez. What morons. Thanks.

bjohndawg

June 16th, 2010
12:03 pm

Tony,

The Casablanca reference….mucho funny my man.
Good stuff!

Delbert D.

June 16th, 2010
12:04 pm

“The Russians, well, one of their guys ended up with the NY Nets.” Hmmm….that may work out worse than Adoph and Eva’s honeymoon for that dude.

Will

June 16th, 2010
12:05 pm

Tony:

An update from my source within the Big 12. Arkansas is a no go for certain. TCU is a dead lock IF a 12th team can be found and there is very little enthusiasm for SMU or Houston. If Utah does not go to the PAC 10, add them to the possibilities for the Big 12. Colorado State would go tomorrow but no one in the Big 12 is interested in that happening.

TCU vs Baylor in the Big 12 would be a bloodbath of a rival based on Baylor’s history of keeping TCU out of the Big 12 earlier.

Expansion may be put on hold for this year but the Big 12 is a deadlock to expand IF they cannot get that Championship Game back in other ways.

Atlanta Gator

June 16th, 2010
12:06 pm

Delbert D.—-

I don’t want to go too far down that road on a football blog, but Lenin and Stalin did kill more people than Hitler did. Mostly their own, ironically.

Just a metaphor for humorous purposes. The SEC is not going to lose the war.

Delbert D.

June 16th, 2010
12:06 pm

dawgfan – Visa to Cuba are a bit of a problem. You might consider Berkeley or Boulder.

Atlanta Gator

June 16th, 2010
12:08 pm

Money is not inherently evil. Men are. It’s a rare person who isn’t tempted to snatch the cookie when no one’s looking. But that’s the definition of good character: doing the right thing when you think no one is looking.

Delbert D.

June 16th, 2010
12:13 pm

The Russian guy I was alluding to is the owner of the Nets. On the Prague post, I meant the broken promise at such a high level. The after affects are a much worse story, as you pointed out.

Delbert D.

June 16th, 2010
12:20 pm

The root of money is a valueless piece of paper that implies the trust between people that value is being exchanged. I’m two-thirds of the way through the book from which I quoted the other night, Atlanta Gator. She explained it in much more detail.

Atlanta Gator

June 16th, 2010
12:20 pm

Bad investment. The Russians aren’t exactly commies anymore, but they don’t seem to have grasped the finer points of free-market capitalism, either.

Atlanta Gator

June 16th, 2010
12:24 pm

Ayn had a gift for metaphor and political allegory, but her characters are two-dimensional and her dialogue is wooden. As a former graduate economist, I get the concept of fiat money. Paper is more portable than gold bullion, but the system only works when you have faith in your government and central bank.

But I digress . . . now we return to our regularly scheduled sports programming.

UT96

June 16th, 2010
12:29 pm

Poad, sure Memphis is a great town if like a second rate school, hood rats, being mugged or shot. What does Memphis have?- the distinction of being the murder capital of the world, a shrine to a fat, dead, singer, poverty at every turn, lousy food, and lousy music.

Atlanta Gator

June 16th, 2010
12:34 pm

UT96—-

That’s a litte harsh. The ribs are good, and the jazz isn’t awful.

All Jealous

June 16th, 2010
12:35 pm

Auburn Sux, Thats about it

Atlanta Gator

June 16th, 2010
12:36 pm

Gotta run guys. Realignment crisis appears to be at a resting point. Clients to bill, bills to pay.

UT96

June 16th, 2010
12:38 pm

dammit, Atl Gator, of course it’s a little harsh. I didn’t actually mean anything I just said, just having a little fun while I’m bored. After all, he criticized Knoxville.

Delbert D.

June 16th, 2010
12:39 pm

Atlanta Gator – Yes and yes on the answer. Simplification is needed for…I’ll leave it there.

aggie94

June 16th, 2010
12:42 pm

Where is the $$ the new Mack-10 conference is promising coming from??? SEC still want A&M? There is no TV deal to bring in the amount of cash they are throwing around. Maybe OKST’s T Boone Pickens or Baylor’s Drayton McClane are making offers TX can’t refuse (under the table).

cantondawg

June 16th, 2010
12:48 pm

I really see USC being irrelevant for the next 5-6 years. 30 scholarships losses will take a huge toll on them. They will be lucky for a .500 record during this probation. USC had been mediocre for a long time until Pete Carroll got there and they are headed back to mediocrity.

[...] Tony Barnhart of The Atlanta Journal-Constitution tackles five burning questions. [...]

How2fish

June 16th, 2010
12:55 pm

Tony have fun!

Good for Reggie Bush

June 16th, 2010
1:06 pm

He’s was in an inherently corrupt system that makes billions off of him in return for pennies on the dollar. He did to them what the NCAA has been doing to college football players for years.

Good for him, and I hope he enjoyed every minute of it.

[...] Tony Barnhart of The Atlanta Journal-Constitution tackles five burning questions. [...]

G8R GRAD

June 16th, 2010
1:09 pm

AG:

“Never Tempt an Honest Man?”

Ben

June 16th, 2010
1:10 pm

Tony, with regards to Carroll and USC, all one had to do was look at the culture of recruiting Lane Kiffin was bringing to Tennessee. Where do people think he learned all those shenanigans. They got what they deserved and so did Kiffin. He’ll be fired in 4 years (2 years he will be given the benefit of the doubt due to these sanctions) I will enjoy his fall.

gcs

June 16th, 2010
1:11 pm

Tony,
I know you are probably half way to Hawaii by now but I was wondering if Joe McKnight was part of the USC investigation.

.

heartofdarkness

June 16th, 2010
1:12 pm

What! No Columbia Football? How the Lions have fallen since the Marty Domres era.

PHILADELPHIA – A national television audience will have the chance to watch the 102nd all-time meeting between football arch rivals Penn and Princeton. Kickoff on Saturday, Nov. 6 at Princeton Stadium is set for 3 p.m. on the VERSUS network.

VERSUS is the fastest growing sports cable network in the country and is now in more than 75 million homes. The network will broadcast at least three Ivy League games in 2010 and 2011, beginning with this season’s Penn-Princeton matchup on the first Saturday in November.

“We are excited to extend our partnership with the Ivy League for the next two seasons and we look forward to the opportunity to once again present several of the League’s marquee matchups to a national audience,” said Jeffrey Goldberg, Vice President of Programming for VERSUS.

This will mark the third straight year in which VERSUS has partnered with Ivy League Football and the Quakers have been selected as part of the national network’s package each year. In 2008, Penn’s Homecoming game at Franklin Field was showcased on VERSUS as the Quakers fell in the final minutes, 34-27 to Brown, the eventual Ivy League champion. Last year, the Red and Blue were featured on the network in its Ivy League opener, a 30-24 win over Dartmouth in Hanover, N.H. It was the first win of the year for the Quakers as they would not lose another game for the rest of the season en route to an Ivy League-record 11th outright Ivy title.

This is also the second consecutive Penn-Princeton game to be aired on national television at Princeton Stadium. In 2008, the Quakers topped the Tigers, 14-9 during a primetime Friday night appearance on ESPNU.

In all, this is the fourth nationally televised Penn football game in the last three years. The remainder of the television schedule and game times for the 2010 Penn football season will be released later this summer.

The VERSUS network is the cable television home of the National Hockey League (NHL), IZOD IndyCar Series, Tour de France, World Extreme Cagefighting (WEC) and Professional Bull Riders (PBR). VERSUS also airs NASCAR, NBA, UFC, college football and college basketball programming. Penn is the first Ivy League game on the network in 2010, while the other two Ivy football games to appear are Brown at Dartmouth on Nov. 13 and Yale at Harvard on Nov. 20.

The Quakers will begin their 134th season with practice in late August. The first game for the 2010 team will take place on Sept. 18 against Lafayette at Franklin Field.

DLine

June 16th, 2010
1:13 pm

Regarding your #3 and the point that all this treatment as a star begins in high school:
“The culture, of course, has its roots back in high school and is fostered in the recruiting process with children having press conferences. That’s been going on a long time and that’s not going to change.”

To have a press conference, you have to have the press present. So you guys should accept at least half of the blame for the High School Press Conference. If ESPN, local TV, newspapers would not show up, then they would all be just announcements. So you all do have the ability to cause a change in that aspect of recruiting.

[...] Tony Barnhart of The Atlanta Journal-Constitution tackles five burning questions. [...]

Bama man

June 16th, 2010
1:26 pm

I cannot understand why Jones is a lock on the hall. The man is at best a good hitter but canot feild a lick. Most hard ones hit to him get through and the home cooking score keeper rules it a hit. Two good years at the most. The man is no Ted Williams or Mantel or Mays.

npgator

June 16th, 2010
1:28 pm

Did I mention that I was first?

jj

June 16th, 2010
1:41 pm

why oh why do sec fans want usc to fail so bad. ive never understood that just like i cant understand a uga fan rooting for fla to win? sec fans are annoying

POAD

June 16th, 2010
1:44 pm

UT96 Rhoads College is an Ivy League type school in Memphis. The Party that is Memphis in May is Great and includes the BBQ Championships. I guess when I saw “The Blindside” all there was were trashy black ghettos and no classy White neighborhoods. What music industry calls knoxwille home? Nashville has Music and so does Memphis. Memphis is a STAR in a new TV show, but I guess it will just be shot in the TRASHY parts or town right. Without UT knoxville has NOTHING I mean NOTHING to offer.

G8R GRAD

June 16th, 2010
1:48 pm

Bama man:

Yeah, but he got a Hooters Girl pregnant!
That entitles him to SOMETHING!

POAD

June 16th, 2010
1:50 pm

UT96 you started calling Memphis the ARM PIT at 9:06. You trashed a town first I just called out your town. Clemson is Auburn with a Lake or Knoxville is Auburn with a Mountian and a River, but all those teams have a Gowd awful Orange for a mian color.

G8R GRAD

June 16th, 2010
1:51 pm

jj:

WHEN was the last time a Georgia Bulldawg rooted for the Gators? ! ! !
They’d sooner fall on a sword!

jj

June 16th, 2010
1:52 pm

and regarding people hating on usc…most people hate something they cant have or they will never be actually a winston churchill quote…funny, didnt think that would be meant for sec fans one day

G8R GRAD

June 16th, 2010
1:53 pm

POAD:

Hate to break it to ya, but Auburn has Lake Martin.

jj

June 16th, 2010
1:54 pm

all my friends who went to uga root so hard for fla to win the national championship…if u dont awesome thats the way it should be

G8R GRAD

June 16th, 2010
1:54 pm

jj:

“. . . most people hate something they cant have or they will never be . . .”

Wow.
Proud ain’t we?

bamafan

June 16th, 2010
1:54 pm

1. Lot of the money that comes from donors that goes to the academic side of the university comes from donors who give, at least in part, as a result of the athletic achievement of the university’s teams. As Bear Bryant once said, “It is hard to rally around a math class.” He also said “How many people come to watch me administer a final exam……thousands.” So when the academics raise hell about the “money” they need to know that some of it comes from the sports programs.

2. Pete Carroll had no credibility before he went to Seattle. His recent comments ensure that he will never have any credibility. I rate his remarks somewhere between those of folks who persist in saying that the earth is flat and those who insist that the Holocaust did not occur.

3. The SEC fans pulling for other SEC teams is a fairly recent phenomenon. It hasn’t always been the case……with the advent of the BCS and its predecessors the Bowl Coalition and Bowl Alliance, it has become more pronounced.

4. Why do SEC fans hate Southern Cal? I admired USC when their coach was John McKay or John Robinson…….not so much Pete Carroll. Does the fact that the media overexposed USC and conducted what turned out to be an illicit love affair with USC from 2003 on have anything to do with it? You bet……..I personally willed Vince Young into the endzone to beat USC and win the 2005 national title. Hell, I even pulled for the fisheaters (Notre Dame) against USC………doesn’t everybody?

POAD

June 16th, 2010
1:57 pm

G8R: Lake Martin is on Auburn’s campus? I know Hartwell is on Clemson’s campus.

jj

June 16th, 2010
1:59 pm

bamafan

some of ur points are well taken but the media has done no different with usc than with any other team winning also be it miami, oh st, fla, fla st…its what the media does…get over that. i believe the media love affair with tebow was sick but so what im not going to hate fla because of it. its the medias job to chalk up whats hot

G8R GRAD

June 16th, 2010
2:01 pm

jj:

“all my friends who went to uga root so hard for fla to win the national championship”

It’s called camaraderie, my friend.
When another SEC is representing our conference we ACTUALLY root for them.
What a concept!
If you need a selfish reason (and apparently, you do) it makes our other teams look better to have lost only to the National Champion.

G8R GRAD

June 16th, 2010
2:01 pm

POAD:

20 mins. away

jj

June 16th, 2010
2:04 pm

g8r grad

again this concept is lost on me? how do u root for a rival and ok so ur rival wins a championship? does ur team get a ring? thats not camaraderie. it would be like a cowboy fan rooting for the redskins or a packer fan rooting for the vikings not going to happen

G8R GRAD

June 16th, 2010
2:07 pm

POAD:

A “two beer” ride!

jj

June 16th, 2010
2:07 pm

and its not selfish. root for ur team and if they dont make it then watch whatever game and hope for a great game and if u want to root for somebody sure go ahead but dawg fans running around like they won a championship when fla does is absurd

G8R GRAD

June 16th, 2010
2:09 pm

jj:

You Left Coast boys just don’t get it, do ya?
We think the SEC is the finest conference in college football.
Hell, college SPORTS!
We put aside our differnces in the name of solidarity when one of ours is playing for all the marbles.
It’s, apparently, a Southern Thang!

jj

June 16th, 2010
2:13 pm

im not a left coast boy i actually graduated from fla, bu thanks for the assumption. i have alot of friends in fla who were not rooting for bama guess some are just different again its not one of ours my one is gators and no kidding the sec is the best

G8R GRAD

June 16th, 2010
2:15 pm

jj:

“im not a left coast boy i actually graduated from fla”

Youth is wasted on the young.

G8R GRAD

June 16th, 2010
2:21 pm

jj:

“. . .it would be like a cowboy fan rooting for the redskins or a packer fan rooting for the vikings not going to happen . . ”

Precisely why college football is better than the NFL.

G8R GRAD

June 16th, 2010
2:23 pm

jj:

Now, go forth and prosper with your newfound wisdom, Grasshopper!

jj

June 16th, 2010
2:24 pm

that has nothing to do with college being better than the nfl. thats the dumbest reason ive ever heard why college is better than the nfl

jj

June 16th, 2010
2:26 pm

wow yes u have given me so much wisdom now…im going to start rooting for bama and uga…man screw my team…

mas

June 16th, 2010
2:29 pm

why is it such a mission to be “first” – hands down one of the dumbest things i’ve ever seen…

G8R GRAD

June 16th, 2010
2:37 pm

JJ = The Last Angry Young Man

GADAWGGIRL

June 16th, 2010
2:40 pm

G8R GRAD, You can try and explain it til the cows come home…if they aren’t a part of the SEC, they just don’t get it! I love my Dawgs, but if we don’t play for all the marbles, (and unfortunately, it has been a looong time), I will root for the Gators, LSU, any SEC team who gets there! Go SEC!

SOOHSO

June 16th, 2010
2:43 pm

152rd. Your ritr. its all about $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Delbert D.

June 16th, 2010
2:54 pm

Knoxville does have a river. Everybody has forgotten about the “Volunteer Navy?”

G8R GRAD

June 16th, 2010
2:56 pm

jj:

It’s a little known philosophy taught by every coach in every sport:

Good Sportmanship.

5IML

June 16th, 2010
3:04 pm

jj,

If it will make you feel better, I (and all the BAMA alumni & fans I know) could not and would not ever root for Auburn, even in a bowl game. Even if an Auburn win would directly benefit BAMA, I can’t do it.

(Please note: In the previous statement, “Tennessee” can be substituted for “Auburn” and the same holds true).

Delbert D.

June 16th, 2010
3:04 pm

USC will be very relevant for 6 years or so, as Exhibit A. I say Mike Garrett doesn’t survive the year as AD.

jj

June 16th, 2010
3:04 pm

sure im such an angry young man…no i just would not root for rivals im glad u would

jj

June 16th, 2010
3:07 pm

5IML

thanks at least some people here think clearly

and G8R IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH SPORTMANSHIP ROOTING FOR A RIVAL

jj

June 16th, 2010
3:09 pm

G8R GRAD=the last band-wagon fan

5IML

June 16th, 2010
3:14 pm

jj,

I will root for other SEC teams in their bowl games–just not Auburn or Tennessee.

G8R GRAD

June 16th, 2010
3:16 pm

jj

June 16th, 2010
3:18 pm

i agree 5IML i could never root for uga.

G8R GRAD

June 16th, 2010
3:21 pm

Have a good one, gentlemen.
I’m off to enjoy cold adult beverages with, God help me, an Alabama fan, two Auburn fans, several Georgia fans, a couple of West Georgia fans and anyone else I’m privileged to share the air with!

GO GATORS!

and

GO SEC!

5IML

June 16th, 2010
3:23 pm

jj,

I’ve come to realize that my prohibitions against rooting for other SEC teams is sport-specific as I have found myself pulling for Tennessee’s women’s basketball team, occasionally.

G8R GRAD

June 16th, 2010
3:25 pm

Forgot my Georgia Tech buddy and, yes, even my Half-A$$-U friend, too!

POAD

June 16th, 2010
3:25 pm

I root for all the teams I hate to win if my team can’t be playing against them! What kind of crap is that. I root for other teams to lose. SOS don’t matter to me. I want the dawgs to lose no matter who they play. Yes, it would be great to play an 11-0 UGA when we play and beat them. I would; however, be rooting for UGA to lose in every single game along the way. If UGA were to ever play for the MNC there would be no way in Hell I would say anything but P.O.A.D the whole game. That would be like pulling for Hitler to be winning the war until the US could Kick his butt.

Alphare

June 16th, 2010
3:30 pm

Did Da’Rick get paid to go to Tennessee with Nance? Just saying.

Good for Reggie Bush

June 16th, 2010
4:20 pm

He took a hypocritical college football system that was going to screw him, making billions off his talents while grossly underpaying him, and screwed them right back.

Good for him.

Delbert D.

June 16th, 2010
4:37 pm

“$10 million a year to the BCS conference that is willing to take Memphis”

For how long? Why did FedEx deny it? They are a publicly-traded corporation. Does that imply that Smith would be using corporate funds?

Pickens made 2 donations to OK St., $100 million several years ago, and $200 million the most recent.

Yeppie

June 16th, 2010
5:50 pm

Atlanta Gator
What I was referring to is the other big 12 teams can earn more money if they get more invites by TV media for prime time games. The money is shared but the perks for having more scheduled key invites goto the institution. That is not shared. So that is what I referred to as it is not all share as social society. If kansas goes 10 wins and NBC wants to air the final game… they get the money.

TV network.. Lots of people would watch. Just as Florida has its own network. Do they share that money with the SEC… no.. so it the concept.

If kansas, Iowa state want more money then they can.. They just have to earn it.. Go and beat a Texas and Okalahoma and they will make more money in addition to the shared revenue. Hence then a network would ask to air the game since it will prove significant.

Partnership.. They ought to be happy to have a home. They make more money with the Texas, OU and atm then without. If they would bring more value they would get more money. It is fair. Kansas is a great basketball program.. That program makes more money than Texas basketball. Does Texas cry about that….. no..

Yeppie

June 16th, 2010
6:01 pm

Reggie Bush must not have a full deck. Saying that he will battle the NCAA and do what ever it takes to aid USC.

Bottom line… He knew what he was doing and knew it was wrong. I think he is just trying to make himself look good to the USC alumni. No character. Should just admit his wrong doing… He should stay in the Heisman club and should get an endorsment deal with Enron and BP.

Yeppie

June 16th, 2010
6:05 pm

USC gave him an opportunity to present his talents. Yes they made money, but they gave him the opportunity. He should be thankful for that and not arrogant. He is just made because he was CAUGHT and was guilty of mis conduct. Don’t forget where your cleats have been. He did that and USC should forbid him on campus. I have a feeling kiffin being the assistant coach was well aware of it and did nothing. He got what was deserved too.

Yeppie

June 16th, 2010
6:11 pm

Nobody truly cares about what the SWC did or the south conference did 30 years ago. 50 years ago Navy, Syracuse, and Army where two of the best college football programs in the country. Texas, Michigan, Ohio State, Oklahoma, Georgia, Tennessee, Alabama have a 100 years of winning tradition. New comer is Florida and USC. The past 20 years. FSU got lost in the shuffle but will return with Miami and Penn State.

Yeppie

June 16th, 2010
6:17 pm

Correction.. Reggie Bush should NOT be in heisman club. He puts it in a negative light. Just as (not sure, going off memory) USC should not be the AP natioanl champ. Should goto Auburn.. I hope the BCS takes away the 2004 champ. Be glad Texas and Vince Young Beat USC and reggie bush in 2005. Even with USC cheating.

Tide Rising

June 16th, 2010
6:30 pm

Good for Reggie Bush

June 16th, 2010
4:20 pm

“He took a hypocritical college football system that was going to screw him, making billions off his talents while grossly underpaying him, and screwed them right back.

Good for him.”

Dude, In what way, shape or form did USC screw Reggie Bush? If you’re talking about all the hot co-eds on campus that gravitate towards the star football players then I see what you mean. And that’s just one of the many fringe benefits you get as a superstar college athletes. Otherwise your claim that he somehow got screwed because they don’t make money as “amateurs” is ludicrous.

If Reggie didn’t want to “get screwed” by playing football he could have just paid his own through college, won an academic scholarship, gone into debt to go to college, or done what a lot of students do and get a part time job or work during the summer to help pay for college. Do volleyball or girl’s softball or men’s golf team athletes also get screwed because they don’t get paid?

USC gave him a full scholarship for playing football and on top of not having to pay for room and board, tuition, books, food, etc. they provided a training ground for several years for him to hone his schools before making millions in the NFL. He was supposed to be an amateur not a pro and if he didn’t like it he could have just stayed out of college for a few years and then went to the NFL.

Incidentally, USC made millions off the efforts of the whole football program and not just Bush. They did not make billions off Reggie Bush as you allege. That is absurd. And now the money USC will lose off the selfishness of this one player will cost them millions of dollars. I’m not absolving USC of any responsibility since they weren’t on top of things. But Reggie’s selfishness, greed, and his family’s greed had a lot to do with USC getting screwed.

Yeppie

June 16th, 2010
6:34 pm

Your right Tide Rising.
He got free tuition to a very respectable academic institution in USC. Also USC gave him a platform to become an NFL player. He screwed USC by his actions and USC did nothing to stop it. They both desever what was handed out by the NCAA.

Yeppie

June 16th, 2010
6:37 pm

Atlanta GATOR
Your comment about PARTNERSHIP.. You ought to give a definition of partnership. If the schools in the SEC have such a great partnership and share…. ONE QUESTION about the PARTNERSHIP
Does Florida share its revenue from its TV network???? I dont think so… Is that a partnership???

Atlanta Gator

June 16th, 2010
6:46 pm

Yeppie—-

USC is a “newcomer,” huh? Do you know anything about college football? Southern Cal is one of ten winningest major college football programs—-ever. Tenth in total number of all-time wins, eighth in all-time winning percentage. Southern Cal can claim 10 consensus national championships between 1928 and 2004. That’s fourth in the modern era, after Notre Dame’s 13, Alabama’s 12 and Michigan’s 11.

“USC is a newcomer?” Why do you continue to just make stuff up? Do you understand how that just destroys your credibility? BTW, do you know how many national championships that Texas has won in the last 30 years? One, Yeppie. Exactly one. Since 1980, here are the totals: Miami (5), Florida (3), Nebraska (3), Alabama (2), FSU (2), LSU (2), Oklahoma (2), Penn State (2), Southern Cal (2*), BYU (1), Clemson (1), Colorado (1), Georgia (1), Georgia Tech (1), Michigan (1), Notre Dame (1), Ohio State (1), Tennessee (1), Texas (1), Washington (1).

See: http://cfbdatawarehouse.com/data/national_championships/nchamps_team.php

Look at that list, Yeppie. It’s a who’s who of American college football on the last 30 years.
You see where Texas is? For the last three decades Texas is dangerously close to all hat and no cattle. Can you say “barely relevant?”

The Longhorns’ outsize football ego has no basis in reality. Please don’t go away angry. Just go away. Please. And spare us the goofy pronouncements.

Yeppie

June 16th, 2010
6:50 pm

Who cares about what happened 30-50 years ago.. Lets stay in the decade. According to the info you listed.. FLorida is not even on the college football radar.

Partnership??? Still waiting. If the Florida is such a partner of the SEC then why are they not sharing that revenue with the othe SEC ?partnerships???

Atlanta Gator

June 16th, 2010
6:50 pm

No, dork, the Gators do not share our revenue from the Sunshine Network. Sunshine is pretty much a football repeat and minor sports network for hardcore Gators. It also shows FSU sports and some of the other Florida universities. That’s not where the real money is, anyway. The real money is the SEC’s ESPN and CBS television contracts. And every SEC member gets a 1/12th equal share of the ESPN and CBS contracts. And we wouldn’t have it any other way.

Yeppie

June 16th, 2010
6:52 pm

Atlanta Gator
Just admit it… dont be angry, just do not over extend yourself with slants.. It is okay to reconsider ones thoughts. Not recommended but better than not doing such action.

Atlanta Gator

June 16th, 2010
6:53 pm

Florida not on the radar this decade? Have you slept through the last five years? The Gators won two NCAA men’s basketball tournaments AND two BCS football championships.

Thanks for playing. No put your little Shorthorn tail between your little steer legs and go.

Yeppie

June 16th, 2010
6:54 pm

Atlanta Gator..
Admit it you were wrong about Big 12 not sharing and the socialism of equal conference revenue sharing. Here you go.. Your claim about the SEC being such a great PARTNERSHIP does not hold water…

Yeppie

June 16th, 2010
6:57 pm

Ahh finally we are in this decade and not looking at 30-50 years of irrelevant stats… About time…
partnership in the SEC.. yea right. Tell that to the ACC, but lets not because that would take us out of the current world of college football.

Atlanta Gator

June 16th, 2010
6:58 pm

Hell, Yeppie, I’m not even sure the Sunshine Network actually makes money, since it doesn’t have live broadcasts of any Gators football and basketball games. But, hey, if Vanderbilt or Alabama or whoever wants a 1/12th of the Sunshine proceeds, they can if they kick in 1/12th of the operating costs. It ain’t real money. What Florida does not share, and will never share, is the royalties from licensing Gators sportswear. The UAA earned that fair and square.

If you don’t believe me, look it up. I’m done doing your homework for you.

Atlanta Gator

June 16th, 2010
7:00 pm

Rhetoric doesn’t win over facts. Raising your voice and repeating yourself doesn’t trump facts. The SEC has equal revenue sharing from its television contracts. Period. Now, go back to Austin and beat up some of the skinny kids for their lunch money.

I’m done with you.

Atlanta Gator

June 16th, 2010
7:12 pm

Hey, everybody. Sorry about the tirade. I just kinda reached my annoyance toleration level with the Little Shorthorn fella who has been lurking around the blog singing Longhorns Uber Alles all week.

I really came back to the blog to take an SEC victory lap on behalf of my favorite college sports program, the Florida Gators. Not sure how I missed it (I guess I was paying too much attention to the realignment chatter), but the Gators won the SEC All-Sports Trophy for the 20th time in 24 years, recognizing the best overall sports program in the conference. That includes best men’s program, best women’s program and best overall program.

ESPN link: http://espn.go.com/blog/sec/post/_/id/10990/florida-wins-sec-all-sports-trophy-again
AJC link: http://blogs.ajc.com/uga-sports-blog/2010/05/25/uga-no-2-in-sec-all-sports-standings/?cxntfid=blogs_uga_sports_blog
Gainesville Sun link: http://www.gatorsports.com/article/20100524/ARTICLES/100529719

Go Gators!

Okay. I’m done gloating.

Yeppie

June 16th, 2010
7:26 pm

Kids.. At least the kids question why they have to call it “toothpaste” versus teethpaste..?
I tell them it was invented in the florida swamps where the kids only have one tooth. Thus they called it toothpaste…

Rhetoric– is good for plato and greek studies..

jumbeauxtiger

June 16th, 2010
8:27 pm

AG, there is nothing wrong with gloating. That’s an impressive run by Gator sports.

Tide Rising, Bush will end up costing USC millions of dollars. He didn’t like driving a pickup truck, wanted new wheels and got them. He wanted new rims and got them. He got a free education at a private school and used it as a springboard for millions. I have zero respect for that guy.

Ray Goof

June 16th, 2010
8:38 pm

As a friend of a Fed Ex employee who hears all the doom and gloom loss of profit’s stories of Fed Ex ..who’s employee’s have taken pay cuts or did not recieve a raise for 2 years…this Fred Smith ..Memphis , story is enough to p*** someone off

Tide Rising

June 16th, 2010
8:39 pm

What up jumbeaux?

While I hold reggie and USC equally responsible-USC for not minding the store and Reggie for his selfishness, greed, and not giving a damn about screwing his school- there is one more point to make to the guy defending Reggie Bush.

Reggie’s actions also cost his teammates- these guys will now miss 2 bowls, miss the opportunity to compete for a national and I think conference title, and they will probably have reduced exposure as far as making all america teams, individual awards., bowl exposure, etc and this indirectly translates into reduced millions for the guys currently on the USC roster who will one day make it to the pros.

Lets face it. When you make all america or achieve awards such as outland trophy, etc because of the exposure of your team and hence your play making skills your agent has more leverage in getting more money for you based on your college accomplishments. Can’t back it up with empirical evidence- just my opinion but I think its a valid point nonetheless.

Tide Rising

June 16th, 2010
8:47 pm

Ray Goof,

I just can’t see Memphis being asec member. Ever. It just seems like a pipe dream for this one CEO and that’s it. Memphis has great jazz and barbecue but other than that it is one of the most politically corrupt and crime ridden cities in the US. Memphis is also a tier 3 or worse school and we already have enough of that in the SEC. Memphis has serious attendance and competitiveness problems and its facilities are horrible. They could never hold their own against the rest of the sec in football. Just can’t see it.

Good for Reggie Bush

June 16th, 2010
9:09 pm

When the NCAA stops making billions off of players while paying them pennies on the dollar for what they bring in, then you pat the NCAA on the back for their moral stand.

Until then, good for Reggie Bush, good for Derrick Rose, good for OJ Mayo good for the rest of them. The NCAA knows they have them over a barrel as far as pay; the players know they have the NCAA over a barrel as far having no recourse against them personally for getting paid.

The NCAA getting on a moral high horse over so called student athletes is like a shark criticizing a barracuda for preying on a big fat juicy sea bass.

Reggie Bush isn’t doing anything different than the NCAA. He’s putting getting paid over the charade called student-athlete. Good for him.

cloudy

June 16th, 2010
9:38 pm

Tide Rising- Preach on brother.

Tide Rising

June 16th, 2010
9:54 pm

Good for Reggie Bush,

If Reggie, Derrick Rose, and OJ Mayo don’t like the fact that they don’t get paid as amateurs and play by the rules then they need not enroll. Its that simple.

Tell OJ to go straight to pro basketball as opposed to going to college as an amateur, go pro rathter than being an amateur and breaking the rules and ruining it for USC, ruining it for USC’s fans, and worst of all ruining it for his teammates and future athletes at USC Tell Reggie and Derrick to do the same. If you want to be an amateur then play by amateur rules whatever they are. You’re not entitled to play as an amateur but get paid as a pro. Everyone else in college athletics from girl’s gymnastics to men’s golf to swimming or diving play by the rules. Why can’t these guys do the same? Don’t like it then go pro and skip college. .

Tide Rising

June 16th, 2010
9:59 pm

Good for Reggie Bush,

One last thing. Is Reggie Bush or OJ Mayo going to apologize to the 30 young men, mostly black young men, that will no longer be able to go to college on an athletic scholarship to USC because USC now has 30 fewer scholarships to hand out due to NCAA probation. Where is the fairness to the 30 young men who now don’t have an opportunity because of these 2 greedy clowns? Is Reggie going to pay for their college tuition since he ruined their opportunities at USC?

Good for Reggie that he got his money. The 30 young men who will not be able to go to USC on scholarship as a direct result of Reggie and OJ’s actions? Not so good.

cloudy

June 16th, 2010
10:00 pm

Reggie BUsh is just another big headed athlete who thinks the world owes him big time because he plays football. But it matters not to him that he lied all through the hearings and in fact would not answer the questions that were asked of him. He could not defend what he and his family had done so he did not try to do anything except stonewall and lie. And he continues to lie. And now the University will pay for their part in not controlling the players – lack of institutional control. Bush and his parents got what they wanted from USC. BUt don’t play the victim card for Bush and his family. THey definitely were not victims. THey went there looking for handouts and cash payments from the get go. I would not be surprised if they had received payments when Bush was in HS. Until the rules are changed to pay cash to the players while in college- it is just ludicrous for you and others like you who poor mouth those “poor kids” who didn’t get paid by the school.

Good for Reggie Bush

June 16th, 2010
10:23 pm

Tell OJ to go straight to pro basketball as opposed to going to college as an amateur,

Tide Rising, that’s all well and good; until you realize the NCAA and NBA rigged the system so that was no longer an option.

Of course Bush, Mayo and the rest are selfish, and only motivated by the money. The NCAA was their role model for that, and they learned well.

76-Dawg

June 17th, 2010
12:40 am

In college football it’s all about the money. The revenue the football team brings in has to pay the salary’s of the coaches and the expenses of all the other men and women sport’s teams that are losing money, which are 90% of all the other teams, on campus.

#2 BAMA FAN

June 17th, 2010
5:15 am

The best thing to come out of Memphis is the other king Jerry Lawler. The Memphis wrestling was great back in the 70s and at best in the 80’s with Jimmy Hart and Andy Kaufman going up against
Lawler and his buddies!! It is great to see the Braves back in ist place where they belong!! RTR

npgator

June 17th, 2010
11:25 am

This may be 200th but I was still first! and if you aint first your last!

RxDawg

June 17th, 2010
11:41 am

I do not think Bush is a “victim” in this. But I do not think he was a demon either. I’m sure his intentions were not out to burn USC. That said, he did break the rules and they were clear.

The NCAA has the right to slam USC. But USC should have the right to go after Pete and Reggie to help compensate.

RxDawg

June 17th, 2010
11:42 am

Amos Alonzo Stagg

June 17th, 2010
1:29 pm

Mr. CFB, you answer your own questions. The USC sanctions are not “game changers” because as you point out, it only took Alamaba eight years to go from the NCAA’s dog house to the penthouse. And as you also point out, with the recent PAC 10 expansion, USC will earn more money, regardless of bowl eligibility. In the old model most teams lost money attending non-BCS/non-New Year’s Day bowls, but with all the tie-ins and guaranteed BCS bids for at least one team per major conference, the sanctions will be felt by the USC players, but not the President, AD and Athletic Department beancounters. The next expansion will be the big one – when conferences become 16 team “supers”. If there are 6 (Big East/ACC will merge after MD goes to Big 10 with Pitt, WVU, and Rutgers or Syracuse; and FSU, VA Tech, Clemson and Miami go to SEC. PAC 10 will add BYU, Hawaii, San Diego State and maybe Boise or Fresno; and the Big XII invites TCU, SMU, Rice, New Mexico, UTEP and a couple other WAC or Mountain West schools; the survivors of which will also merge. This will produce 6 16 team conferences (96 total). Each will have a championship game with the winner invited to a 4 week, 8 team playoff. Regrets to the Sun Belt, Con-USA, ND (unless they sneak into the Big ACC) and other “mid-supers” – the music has stopped and you have no chair. But right now the money is too attractive form the BCS conferences/schools, so it will take a couple years until they kill that goose and run out of golden eggs.

atlvol55

June 17th, 2010
2:05 pm

UT96,

I agree with you about Tiger High (aka Memphis) doesn’t bring anything to the SEC except a good basketball program. However, I have to disagree about the city of Memphis. While, I wouldn’t want to live there, I do have several friends in the city and Rendez vous, the Peabody, Beale Street are a lot of fun if you are hanging out for a long weekend. Memphis in May festival is a blast

Go Vols

North Avenue Ned

June 17th, 2010
2:25 pm

I’m glad Kiffin has to play in Carroll’s dirty sandbox. He deserves it, and probably helped dirty it anyway. And Tennessee fans, you ought to thank the heavens that he is gone from Knoxville!

G8R GRAD

June 17th, 2010
3:39 pm

This just in:

Not only did the University of florida just win the SEC All-Sports Trophy for the 20th time in 24 years, but fifteen Florida programs finished among the national top 10, a school record.

Read it and weep.

Tdawg

June 17th, 2010
7:30 pm

Look for Texas or Olkahoma to play for the national title every year. All either team has to do now is to wade through a watered-down conference. I don’t see why Texas just don’t take the Notre Dame route. Go independant and just keep all the money for themselves. From what I’ve read and heard so far they get the majority of the money anyway and the rest or the leauge gets the scraps. Olkahoma and Texas A&M would be wise to take a better look at the SEC. I would not won’t to play in a conference where one school has all the power and you’d be lying to yourself if you say that univeristy of Teaas does not have that power. Texas stayed in the big 12 because they were given everything. The rest of the conference no longer has any say in their conference because they had to sell their souls in order to keep Texas. No Texas, no Big 12. Now it will be Texas and the little 9. Olkahoma may ocassionally make a splash, but only every now and then. Now all Notre Dame has to do is get a crippled USC off the schedule, water it down a bit and you will have Texas and Notre Dame in the national championship game more often than not. Of coarse if these teams were to play a hard out of conference schedule then they may actually deserve a title shot. Sense neither team has anything to gang playing a hard out of conference game then I see them loosing very few games in the future. A one loss play-off conference champion should be taken over an undefeated non-play off conference champion or independent.

KimZ'sPackage

June 17th, 2010
10:03 pm

Bama fears OU and UT in the SEC.

POAD

June 17th, 2010
10:04 pm

Will the Texas kill any chance the dawgs have at being #5 in the SEC?

Bama fan

June 18th, 2010
1:49 am

KimZ’sPackage,

Bama fear OU and UT? What? We just gave UTejas a physical smacking in the championship game. That spread finesse offense of theirs we can handle and we would play them every week. And whup em too.

OU? Please. We played them back to back in 02 and 03 when they were preseason #1 in 02 and preseason top 5 in 03. We were on probation and still took them on an lost 2 close games. You think a Bama program at full strength would be scared of OU? You gotta be kidding.

T3

June 18th, 2010
10:16 am

Well, this one’s for
Mr. Tony (Now way in Hell will Arkansas leave the SEC) Barnhart.

Big 12 sources say Arkansas has put out feelers about a move
Chip Brown Orangebloods.com June 17, 2010

Just when it looked like realignment in college athletics might be winding down, multiple sources in the Big 12 told Orangebloods.com Arkansas has put out feelers about a possible move to the Big 12 to reconnect with former Southwest Conference rivals like Texas and Texas A&M.

Those sources said Arkansas currently doesn’t have the votes among the Big 12 schools to join the league. But those sources said they would need to see how the television money would work if adding a school or two to know if they’d vote for expansion.

Tom Keegan of the Lawrence Journal-World reported Thursday, according to sources close to Cowboys owner and Arkansas alum Jerry Jones, that Jones wants Arkansas and Notre Dame in the Big 12.

The Big 12 title game is under contract to be played at Cowboys Stadium for the next four years. But after the departure of Nebraska and Colorado, the Big 12 will no longer qualify for a title game after the 2010 season. Under NCAA rules, a league must have 12 schools to qualify for a championship game.

So it would make sense that Jones would want two more teams in the Big 12 so the league would be able to play its title game in Cowboys Stadium for years to come. Jones also helped win a national title at Arkansas in 1964 along with teammate Jimmy Johnson and then-Hogs assistant coach Barry Switzer.

But sources close to Jones said Thursday he has nothing to do with Arkansas’ decision making and could’t be further from anything having to do with college realignment.

“He’s got too much else to do,” the source close to Jones said.

SOURCES: ARKANSAS EYEING BIG 12

Orangebloods.com contacted three executive sources in the Big 12 on Thursday and was told by one executive that Arkansas joining the Big 12 was “a long shot.”

Another said, “Arkansas has definitely put feelers out about joining the Big 12.”

A third executive said, “If anybody can make the math (money) work, it’s Jerry Jones.”

That executive went on to lay out the only scenario he thought it might work for the Big 12: if the money can be adjusted by the Big 12 TV partners – ABC/ESPN and Fox Sports Net – to accommodate Arkansas (possibly with the help of Jerry Jones), then adding Arkansas could make sense, the source said.

That source went on to say if Arkansas joined the Big 12 and realignment started back up with the SEC having to replace a school and possibly looking to get to 14 or even 16, Notre Dame could be back in play.

Several sources, including a source close to the discussions that took place between Notre Dame and the Big Ten over the past month, indicated Notre Dame would remain independent unless it appeared super conferences were forming.

And now that the Big Ten is at 12 schools already, Notre Dame might be more interested in joining the Big 12, where it might be the 12th school added to the league (along with Arkansas).

Notre Dame could also explore having its own TV network inside the Big 12, whereas that would not be an option in the Big Ten, which has a conference network that requires everyone to share their inventory.

A source close to Texas said athletic director DeLoss Dodds and Notre Dame athletic director Jack Swarbrick have “a very close” relationship. The source said Dodds has helped serve as a mentor to Swarbrick since Swarbrick took over as Notre Dame’s AD in June of 2008.

ARKANSAS DENIES LOOKING AROUND

Arkansas athletic director Jeff Long issued a statement Wednesday denying any reports that the Razorbacks are looking around.

“In recent weeks and months there has been much national dialogue regarding conference affiliation in intercollegiate athletics,” Long said.

“In the course of that dialogue some have suggested that the University of Arkansas was an institution that may be pursued by other conferences.

“From the beginning, we have been very clear that the University of Arkansas is a proud member of the Southeastern Conference and has no interest in joining another conference.

“Chancellor Gearhart has been unwavering in his support of our institution’s continued membership in the SEC. Recent events have not in any way altered our commitment or desire to remain a member of what we believe is the strongest conference in the nation.”

BIG 12 STAYING AT 10?

Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe said Tuesday in a teleconference his league is not looking to expand.

But two of the Big 12 executives Orangebloods.com spoke to on Thursday said they fear there will be a push by some, especially in Texas, to add at least two more schools from within the state.

“There will be a push by state schools like the University of Houston, especially among lawmakers and at the regent level, to get into the Big 12,” the source said.

According to the Houston Chronicle, that push is already under way.

The Chronicle reported more than two dozen Houston-area legislators put in writing their support Thursday for the University of Houston to gain admission to the Big 12 Conference.

Texas representatives Garnet Coleman (D-Houston) and Bill Callegari (R-Katy) co-authored a letter asking Big 12 officials to consider UH for a spot in the 10-team conference, the newspaper reported.

The letter will be sent to the Big 12 school presidents and the league office on Thursday. The delegation also sent copies of the letter championing the cause of UH’s admission into a Bowl Championship Series conference to Gov. Rick Perry, Lt. Gov. David Dewhurst and House Speaker Joe Straus, the Chronicle said.

Beebe has repeatedly said if the Big 12 was to expand it would be outside the current geographical footprint of the conference.

Arkansas and South Bend, Ind., are certainly outside the current geographical footprint of the new, 10-member Big 12.

Stay tuned.

Atlanta Gator

June 18th, 2010
10:16 am

8—-

The Gators appear to be a shoe-in for second place in the NACDA Director’s Cup when the final standings are released in early July. Unfortunately, I don’t think the Gators can catch first-place Stanford. Stanford is like Florida in that they have a very well-rounded athletic program, but the Cardinal teams play about ten more sports than the Gators do, giving them a natural advantage.

Atlanta Gator

June 18th, 2010
10:24 am

If Notre Dame won’t join the Big Ten (Dozen), where it is understood to have a standing invitation to join for years, why in God’s name would the Irish join the Big XII (X)? None of Notre Dame’s traditional rivals (Michigan, Michigan State, Penn State, Purdue, USC) are in the Big XII (X), and a conference schedule would make scheduling its traditional regional and national rivals. Joining the Big XII would dramatically increase their travel costs and travel time for all sports teams, not just the football team. Notre Dame is not willing to give up their own television contract with NBC because it funds a huge portion of their athletic department budget.

Notre Dame to the Big XII (X) ain’t happening.

Atlanta Gator

June 18th, 2010
10:25 am

“. . . make scheduling its traditional regional and national rivals more difficult.” I need an editor.

POAD

June 18th, 2010
11:07 am

bama fan if Bama didn’t have 100 kids on scholarship before the season and have to kick players off the team Bama wouldn’t be any better than Vandy. have all the bama player learned to color inside the lines yet?

Atlanta Gator

June 18th, 2010
11:22 am

Several Pac-10, ACC and Texas fans have written a lot of smack-talk on this blog this past week about the state of academics in the SEC. Well, guess what? Lost in the Realignmentpalooza of this past week, the NCAA released its annual Academic Progress Rate (APR) report for Division I sports. APR is a rolling average of sorts that measures both the six-year graduation rate of student-athletes as well as their accumulation of the necessary academic credits for graduation. A perfect APR score is 1,000, and 920 is a failing score that could lead to NCAA sanctions such as the loss of scholarships for failing programs. So, let’s see how the SEC football programs do in comparison to, for instance, the ACC in national APR rankings and among the other 120 Division programs?

5. Duke (983 APR–1st ACC)

6. Miami (!) (978 APR–2d ACC)

9. Vanderbilt (975 APR–1st SEC)

14. Georgia (973 APR–2d SEC)

17. Florida (971 APR–3d SEC)

23. Boston College (967 APR–3d ACC)

23. Clemson (967 APR–3d ACC)

23. Georgia Tech (967 APR–3d ACC)

27. Wake Forest (966 APR–6th ACC)

28. LSU (!) (965 APR–4th SEC)

33. Alabama (957 APR–5th SEC)

33. UNC (957 APR–7th ACC)

41. Kentucky (951 APR–6th SEC)

52. UVa (947 APR–8th ACC)

65. Tennessee (944 APR–7th SEC)

72. Virginia Tech (940 APR–9th ACC)

76. Mississippi State (939–8th SEC)

79. South Carolina (938 APR–9th SEC)

82. North Carolina State (937 APR–10th ACC)

84. Auburn (935 APR–10th SEC)

97. Arkansas (930 APR–11th SEC)

100. Maryland (929 APR–11th ACC)

104. FSU (927 APR–12th ACC)

110. Ole Miss (921 APR–12th SEC)

Without casting aspersions, the APR rankings provide an objective measure of how sports programs are doing in terms of the progress that its student-athletes are making toward graduating with a college degree. As we review the list above, the myth of the ACC’s overwhelming academic superiority appears, well, a little exaggerated. When Vanderbilt, Georgia and Florida all hav a better APR than 10 of the 12 ACC football programs, and Alabama and UNC have identical APR scores, some folks might want to reconsider just how vigorously they beat their hairy little chests about “academic superiority.”

One other notable fact, the Pac-10, that athletic conference of purported ivory tower academic standards, just accepted Colorado into its ranks as its 11th member. Colorado’s football APR was 920, 112th among 120 division programs, and the NCAA will be penalizing CU 4 of its 85 football scholarships. CU’s basketball program scored an 897 APR and will be penalized 1 of its 12 basketball scholarships.

Oops. I almost forgot. Guess how that purported paragon of academic superiority, the University of Texas, scored on its football APR. Well, the Longhorns football program scored a respectable 947 APR, good enough for 52nd among all 120 FBS football programs—-and ranked behind SIX SEC football programs, including Vanderbilt, Georgia, Florida, LSU, Alabama and Kentucky.

Put that in your wannabe Left Coast waterpipe and smoke it, Bevo.

Atlanta Gator

June 18th, 2010
11:26 am

Hey, POAD—-

Hoswabout those UGA vs. Georgia Tech APR rankings?

Atlanta Gator

June 18th, 2010
11:28 am

For that matter, howsabout those Florida vs. FSU APR rankings?

17th vs 104th. Wow. Wasn’t some little shorthorn fella on this blog the other day, spouting off abut how there’s no difference between the University of Florida and Florida State?

Atlanta Gator

June 18th, 2010
11:34 am

T3

June 18th, 2010
12:45 pm

ANYONE with any knowledge KNOWS the APR is a manufactured NCAA compliance gimmick to give PR cover to schools that regularly admit
THE MOST acadmically unqualified athletes to play sports.
Kind of like UGA’s infamous Special Admissions program.

By the the very fact that UGA ranks 2nd in the SEC, behind only Vandy, and ranks slightly lower than Duke…is ALL thats needed to prove that the APR measure is COMPLETE crap.

Its laughable to use the APR as any ACCURATE measure.

T3

June 18th, 2010
1:39 pm

OOOOOOHHHHHH Man. This is gonna be good !!!!!!!!!!!!

If there is no BIG12 Championship game, good ole Jerry Jones
is gonna lose TENS OF MILLIONS of revenue for “Jerry World.”

“Publicly”…theres been comments that TX and OK dont like playing a
BIG12 championship game.

So, that means, we’re gonna have a gret big tug-of-war:

Jerry Jones (Arkansas alum) vs. the BIG12 (aka Texas & OK)…

…over expanding back to 12 teams with the addition of Arkansas
and playing a BIG12 championship game at Jerry World.

Boy, this is REEEEEAAAALLLYYYY gonna be a “Clash of the Titans”
that gets played out over the next few weeks.

Bobby's Cox

June 18th, 2010
2:43 pm

Burning question for MR. College Football…Can ESPN survive the potential departure of Erin “Peeka-a-boo” Andrews. Apparently, MS. Holo Somer is seeking greener pastures or a new male gene pool to frequent..Looks will only carry you so far, so she better strike while the iron is still hot.

I wish they would go back to sideline reporters that actually enhance the broadcast with their knowledge and insight of the game from the field level perspective. I still think former players that can articulate the flow of the game and offer strategic insight best suit the role of a true sideline reporter.

I am for Erin becoming a weather anchor..We need to bring sexy back to the weather. They still have sexy babes doing the weather in other countries, why do we have old farts for local weather. It’s bad enough that they subject us to 10 plus minutes of Live Doppler, Nexrad, who gives a crap 90% of the time radar coverage-AT LEAST GIVE us something to look at that is appealing. While we are at it, can we have only good looking women as stewardess on flights..No more 55 year old burned out flight attendants who like like Pat from Saturday Night Live or guys named Jeff who are more feminine than their female counterparts..

Delbert D.

June 18th, 2010
3:07 pm

Atlanta Gator – Georgia Tech lost by 7 again to Georgia. Wow, is this scientific, or what…

Delbert D.

June 18th, 2010
3:08 pm

Bobby’s Cox – Take Heather Grinch…please.

Atlanta Gator

June 18th, 2010
4:05 pm

Delbert D.—-

It’s just a manufactured statistic. Meaningless, really. So meaningless, in fact, that the University of Colorado is losing 4 football scholarships and 1 basketball scholarship. Yup. Just a made-up statistic. The University of Idaho is loosing 6 football scholarships, Florida Atlanta 2 and New Mexico 1. Yup, that crazy ol’ APR, it sure is meaningless.

I also note for the record that FSU is only 2 points above the level for sanctions, and Ole Miss is 4 points below, putting both the FSU and Ole Miss programs at risk of scholarship losses in future years of they don’t turn it around. Yes, sir, that APR thingy really is meaningless.

Atlanta Gator

June 18th, 2010
4:11 pm

In fact, the APR is so meaningless that Duke University is bragging the APR scores of its athletic teams on its official athletics department website:

http://www.goduke.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=4200&ATCLID=204944579

Atlanta Gator

June 18th, 2010
4:15 pm

In fact, the NCAA’s APR doo-hickey is such a joke that the News-Observer, the state of North Carolina’s most widely circulated newspaper, is giving significant coverage to the fact that Duke, NC State, UNC, Wake Forest combined have 30 teams ranked in the top 10% of their respective sports:

http://www.newsobserver.com/2010/06/10/524452/ncaa-stats-show-classroom-rankings.html

But, hey, it’s just a meaningless made-up number. No real meaning, right?

Atlanta Gator

June 18th, 2010
4:21 pm

T3—-

You do know that UGA is ranked 58th among all national universities, public and private, right? Only 11 places behind your precious Texas at 47th, right? You do know that Texas is tied with Florida at 47th, right? You do know that Florida’s SATs are higher and that Florida’s admission standards are more difficult, right.

I know. I know. Meaningless statistics, sort of like the fact that Florida brings in $141 million more in sponsored research grants than Texas does, right? Just another meaningless, made-up number, I suppose.

Be gone, BEVO.

Atlanta Gator

June 18th, 2010
4:25 pm

A whole bunch of smack-talk was tossed around about research grants this past week in the context of college sports conferences.

For anyone remotely interested in how research universities actually rank each other, follow this link:

http://mup.asu.edu/research2009.pdf

Delbert D.

June 18th, 2010
5:15 pm

Atlanta Gator – I’m sure that Jimbo will get the Seminoles off the edge of the cliff. More correspondence courses. No hope for the Mississippi Plantationeers, I’m afraid.

I downloaded the MUP document the other night, and I was please to see Emory (my son’s school) ranked right there with Virginia. I wish it included more schools, because I’m really interested in Houston’s claims of top research. Tier 4, top research university?

Delbert D.

June 18th, 2010
5:18 pm

Atlanta Gator – Oh, and I’m glad the 7-point coincidence for Georgia and Georgia Tech’s APR and last November’s game is just that. That will save me a bunch of money in lost bets.

Delbert D.

June 18th, 2010
5:36 pm

“Be gone, BEVO.”

It’s got to be really tough going through life as a steer.

Jesse James

June 18th, 2010
5:37 pm

College Football and College Basketball are both corrupt outfits. Go College World Series and College Baseball. 11 scholarships, what a joke! NCAA get it right and quit descriminating!

Jesse James

June 18th, 2010
5:42 pm

I know, I mispelled discriminating. Sorry!

Atlanta Gator

June 18th, 2010
6:01 pm

Delbert D.—-

Looking over the ACC and SEC APR results, I thought at least three schools had surprising scores:

1. LSU, which is not normally thought of as one of the leading academic institutions of the SEC, scored very high.

2. Mississippi State, which is consistently rated as one of the two academic stepchildren of the SEC, has an APR above that of 3 ACC football programs and 4 SEC teams. Surprising. I’m still afraid to look at MSU’s basketball APR, because it’s going to be bad.

3. Virginia’s football APR is embarrassingly low, given the present state of the football program (barely competitive within the ACC), the quality of the institution and the academic resources available. All things being, equal, I would have thought that Miami and Virginia’s respective APRs would have been reversed

Atlanta Gator

June 18th, 2010
6:02 pm

Delbert D.—-

Looking over the ACC and SEC APR results, I thought at least three schools had surprising scores:

1. LSU, which is not normally thought of as one of the leading academic institutions of the SEC, scored very high.

2. Mississippi State, which is consistently rated as one of the two academic stepchildren of the SEC, has an APR above that of 3 ACC football programs and 4 SEC teams. Surprising. I’m still afraid to look at MSU’s basketball APR, because it’s going to be bad.

3. Virginia’s football APR is embarrassingly low, given the present state of the football program (barely competitive within the ACC), the quality of the institution and the academic resources available. All things being equal, I would have expected that Miami and Virginia’s respective APRs would have been reversed.

Delbert D.

June 18th, 2010
6:31 pm

Atlanta Gator – Everybody’s punching bag, being mentioned in the Big Ten expansion, is Rutgers. Their football multiyear APR set a new record at 992. They’ve put nearly $120 million into facilities improvement recently, including stadium expansion and a new football facility.

Delbert D.

June 18th, 2010
7:38 pm

Delbert D.

June 18th, 2010
7:49 pm

That’s an oops…wrong blog.

Atlanta Gator

June 18th, 2010
9:08 pm

Delbert—-

Rutgers is all dressed up like a prom date for the Big Ten (Dozen). Good grades, nice dress, nice hair, hangs around other AAU members. I hope the Big Ten (Dozen) doesn’t lead Rutgers on and leave her waiting by the phone (like they did to that other poor Miss out west).

Delbert D.

June 19th, 2010
11:22 am

Atlanta Gator – Great analogy.

POAD

June 21st, 2010
9:24 am

Tony get back we need to BLOG

npgator

June 21st, 2010
10:22 am

As long as Tony is gone I will remain first!

Best of Atlanta

June 21st, 2010
11:18 am

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……Nesbitt for Heisman……
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RxDawg

June 21st, 2010
11:19 am

Oh dear, I just got back to this blog after the weekend. AG, I have a mild internet blog crush now. Those retorts about “academic superiority” were just pure gold. Bravo.

Hang down your head Vince Dooley

June 21st, 2010
12:41 pm

Ah yes……kids want to go where the rules are loose. That’s why they always came to me. Class? We don’t need no stinking class! All we need are wards of the state, who can hit hard, run fast and read well enough to apply for welfare. I still hate the Kemp woman, bless her heart.

Gotta another payment to Herschel’s momma this week!
Vince Doodley

savannah dawg

June 23rd, 2010
7:53 pm

How’s ya mama and dem?

npgator

June 25th, 2010
10:19 am

249th and first! I still get teary eyed every time I see that I am first and have been for a week! Life is good!

SC Rules!!! (No more, for now)

June 27th, 2010
2:00 pm

Well, I must say that these past couple of weeks have sucked out loud. I am not one of the many Trojan fans who see a conspiracy under every tea leaf nor do I still blame SEC folks for our plight. This is the bed we made, now we get too sleep in it. Too bad Coach Carroll still has the “rose” colored glasses on. He was the toast of the town, but in the end it seems that wasn’t enough. Maybe he’ll find what he is looking for in the NFL. Doubt it; but who knows.

If my friend “shane#1″ is out there awaiting the start of practice to start chiming in again; pardner, these are some seriously cr@ppy times we Southlanders find ourselves in. Too make things worse, if that is possible, fUCLA is on the rise just as we find ourselves with a big bite of that “sh!t sandwich” too chew on.

Well I won’t end on a doom & gloom note here; the AWWA show last week went very well and the flight back to LAX was smooth as glass.

college football

June 28th, 2010
12:24 am

You guys are too funny

Joe Don't Go Squad

June 28th, 2010
3:38 pm

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Oh My Goodness

July 1st, 2010
5:20 pm

Tony, you probably took off at the right time……have you read today’s sports headline?

WB

July 2nd, 2010
4:18 pm

You need to add #6
What a disgrace Damon Evans is to UGA and how his black azz should be fired.

Red panties or Challenge Flag?

July 3rd, 2010
9:10 am

Perhaps the red panties represent the red challenge flag and we need to review the tape of the arrest. The cop pulled Evans over because his 2009 BMW drifted over the center line on Roswell Rd. Daman told the cop, “I’m feeling pretty good”, and then he laughed. Obviously, he laughed after he said he felt good, because he was remembering what his date had just done for him. It was the sex act while driving, not the booze that made him drive erratically. Somehow this whole episode gives new meaning to the phrase, “action between the hedges”.

After reviewing the tape, the call stands. Evans refused the breathalyzer while the play was in progress. Evans forfeits his job and he is now positioned half the distance to his goals.

Evans has used his last time out.

Lufor has a throne

July 3rd, 2010
11:39 am

The Candy Canes will get spanked yet again in their self proclaimed “we’re back” year.

sherlock holmes

July 3rd, 2010
12:24 pm

gee Tony, not much happened while you were on vacation ….NOT!

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Greensboro, GA

July 4th, 2010
4:41 pm

Joshua Nesbitt accounted for 28 touchdowns last season. If he stays healty, Nesbitt should put up bigger numbers for 2010.
He is absolutely the TOUGHEST quarterback in all of college football. If he gets his passing tuned up,.. LOOK OUT.

jambee3

July 6th, 2010
1:35 pm

Tony, Mr. SEC/UGA Football, when are you going to comment on the AD fiasco? I’m sure we will just blame it on the cops (or refs) when things go bad. Worst arrest I’ve ever seen in my 40 year career….