Burning questions until MrCFB returns

If we needed any further proof that college football is now a year-round sport, we just got it.

The Braves are in first place and are the hottest team in baseball.

Chipper Jones, a lock-solid Hall of Famer on the first ballot, is thinking about retirement.

The NBA Playoffs between the two most storied franchies in the history of the league are headed to seventh and deciding game.

The Atlanta Hawks just hired a new coach.

But what has been the hottest story in sports for the past three months? College football and the possible changing of the landscape.

Fortunately for the college football fan, cooler heads prevailed and the change will be minimal. And there will be no change for 2010.

What it all means is that this is going to be a very short summer for all of us who care about the sport. SEC Media Days in Birmingham begin on July 21. I have a feeling that is going to get here in a hurry.

So, in order to keep some promises to Mrs. Barnhart, I’m going to take another shot at a vacation that was interrupted by conference expansion. Unless something fairly dramatic happens (and I think we’ve had enough drama for one summer), I’ll be back on July 12.

Until then, let me share some burning questions to get us to the preseason meetings:

1. How would you like to go on the road with Nebraska this season? The Cornhuskers will be playing their final season in the Big 12 and will have conference road trips to Kansas State (Thursday, Oct. 7), Oklahoma State (Oct. 23), Iowa State (Nov. 6), and Texas A&M (Nov. 20). The trips to Stillwater and College Station could be very interesting.

2. Are we really supposed to believe that Pete Carroll was shocked–SHOCKED–at the NCAA penalties against USC? To hear the Carroll tell it, the NCAA just basically made this stuff up about Reggie Bush. He didn’t take the handouts from an agent. His parents didn’t live in a house for which they did not pay. Old Pete, who bolted for the Seattle Seahawks before the sanctions went down, just doesn’t understand how the NCAA reached the conclusions it did.

I heard that somebody else drew this analogy first, but when Carroll went public with his amazement at the NCAA penalties, I was reminded of this famous scene from “Casablanca,” the best movie ever made. Pete Carroll is playing the role of Captain Renault (Claude Rains).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Gf8NK1WAOc

3. Does everybody completely understand what a game-changer the USC sanctions are? Dan Wetzel of Yahoo Sports made this point and I completely agree with it.

http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/news?slug=dw-uscfindings061010

Every now and then the NCAA says “Enough!” and slaps somebody hard. They did it to Alabama in 2002. And it doesn’t have as much to do with overt cheating as it does with the kind of culture schools allow to grow and exist for the sake of recruiting expediency.

This is a very simplistic explanation but it goes something like this: “Come to our school and we’ll treat you like an NFL star BEFORE you become and NFL star. We can’t give you stuff, because that would be wrong. But if you just look hard enough, it’s out there. Now don’t be obvious about it because then we have to do something. But at our school (wink-wink, nod-nod) we’re not going to be looking very hard to catch you doing this stuff.”

Kids are not stupid. They know where the rules are tight and the rules are loose. They are kids. A lot of them want to go where the rules are loose. That’s why the adults have to enforce the rules.

Here’s the big change: Schools have been put on notice that if they recruit an elite athlete like Reggie Bush, they have to double the guard on him. At at the slightest sniff that he or his family have their hands out to anybody, you sit him  down and declare him ineligible. Can you stop it? Of course not. But if you find out about it or even suspect it, you’d better do something about it. That’s the new standard created by the USC case.

The culture, of course, has its roots back in high school and is fostered in the recruiting process with children having press conferences. That’s been going on a long time and that’s not going to change. But the colleges have been put on notice. They have to change.

4. Was conference expansion all about the money? Of course it was about the money. And that is not always a bad thing.

I’m always amused when people say schools shouldn’t go for the money. That’s easy for them to say because they don’t have to pay the bills.

The same people who complain that schools want more money would be the first one standing in line to fire the athletics director if he let a top notch assistant coach get away to a competitor because the AD didn’t want to double the coach’s salary. Those fans who decry the role money plays in the sport would be the same ones who complain that their school doesn’t have an indoor practice facility which puts them at a disadvantage in recruiting.

Are their excesses? Sure there are. Schools are certainly chasing the money so that they can continue to pay their football coach $3 million-plus and build NFL style weight rooms.

But you can’t have it both ways. You can’t demand that your school compete at the highest level and then complain about the steps your school has to take to stay at that level. You are either in or out. There is no middle ground in this game.

Have a great summer, friends. See you on July 12.

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260 comments Add your comment

npgator

June 17th, 2010
11:25 am

This may be 200th but I was still first! and if you aint first your last!

RxDawg

June 17th, 2010
11:41 am

I do not think Bush is a “victim” in this. But I do not think he was a demon either. I’m sure his intentions were not out to burn USC. That said, he did break the rules and they were clear.

The NCAA has the right to slam USC. But USC should have the right to go after Pete and Reggie to help compensate.

RxDawg

June 17th, 2010
11:42 am

Amos Alonzo Stagg

June 17th, 2010
1:29 pm

Mr. CFB, you answer your own questions. The USC sanctions are not “game changers” because as you point out, it only took Alamaba eight years to go from the NCAA’s dog house to the penthouse. And as you also point out, with the recent PAC 10 expansion, USC will earn more money, regardless of bowl eligibility. In the old model most teams lost money attending non-BCS/non-New Year’s Day bowls, but with all the tie-ins and guaranteed BCS bids for at least one team per major conference, the sanctions will be felt by the USC players, but not the President, AD and Athletic Department beancounters. The next expansion will be the big one – when conferences become 16 team “supers”. If there are 6 (Big East/ACC will merge after MD goes to Big 10 with Pitt, WVU, and Rutgers or Syracuse; and FSU, VA Tech, Clemson and Miami go to SEC. PAC 10 will add BYU, Hawaii, San Diego State and maybe Boise or Fresno; and the Big XII invites TCU, SMU, Rice, New Mexico, UTEP and a couple other WAC or Mountain West schools; the survivors of which will also merge. This will produce 6 16 team conferences (96 total). Each will have a championship game with the winner invited to a 4 week, 8 team playoff. Regrets to the Sun Belt, Con-USA, ND (unless they sneak into the Big ACC) and other “mid-supers” – the music has stopped and you have no chair. But right now the money is too attractive form the BCS conferences/schools, so it will take a couple years until they kill that goose and run out of golden eggs.

atlvol55

June 17th, 2010
2:05 pm

UT96,

I agree with you about Tiger High (aka Memphis) doesn’t bring anything to the SEC except a good basketball program. However, I have to disagree about the city of Memphis. While, I wouldn’t want to live there, I do have several friends in the city and Rendez vous, the Peabody, Beale Street are a lot of fun if you are hanging out for a long weekend. Memphis in May festival is a blast

Go Vols

North Avenue Ned

June 17th, 2010
2:25 pm

I’m glad Kiffin has to play in Carroll’s dirty sandbox. He deserves it, and probably helped dirty it anyway. And Tennessee fans, you ought to thank the heavens that he is gone from Knoxville!

G8R GRAD

June 17th, 2010
3:39 pm

This just in:

Not only did the University of florida just win the SEC All-Sports Trophy for the 20th time in 24 years, but fifteen Florida programs finished among the national top 10, a school record.

Read it and weep.

Tdawg

June 17th, 2010
7:30 pm

Look for Texas or Olkahoma to play for the national title every year. All either team has to do now is to wade through a watered-down conference. I don’t see why Texas just don’t take the Notre Dame route. Go independant and just keep all the money for themselves. From what I’ve read and heard so far they get the majority of the money anyway and the rest or the leauge gets the scraps. Olkahoma and Texas A&M would be wise to take a better look at the SEC. I would not won’t to play in a conference where one school has all the power and you’d be lying to yourself if you say that univeristy of Teaas does not have that power. Texas stayed in the big 12 because they were given everything. The rest of the conference no longer has any say in their conference because they had to sell their souls in order to keep Texas. No Texas, no Big 12. Now it will be Texas and the little 9. Olkahoma may ocassionally make a splash, but only every now and then. Now all Notre Dame has to do is get a crippled USC off the schedule, water it down a bit and you will have Texas and Notre Dame in the national championship game more often than not. Of coarse if these teams were to play a hard out of conference schedule then they may actually deserve a title shot. Sense neither team has anything to gang playing a hard out of conference game then I see them loosing very few games in the future. A one loss play-off conference champion should be taken over an undefeated non-play off conference champion or independent.

KimZ'sPackage

June 17th, 2010
10:03 pm

Bama fears OU and UT in the SEC.

POAD

June 17th, 2010
10:04 pm

Will the Texas kill any chance the dawgs have at being #5 in the SEC?

Bama fan

June 18th, 2010
1:49 am

KimZ’sPackage,

Bama fear OU and UT? What? We just gave UTejas a physical smacking in the championship game. That spread finesse offense of theirs we can handle and we would play them every week. And whup em too.

OU? Please. We played them back to back in 02 and 03 when they were preseason #1 in 02 and preseason top 5 in 03. We were on probation and still took them on an lost 2 close games. You think a Bama program at full strength would be scared of OU? You gotta be kidding.

T3

June 18th, 2010
10:16 am

Well, this one’s for
Mr. Tony (Now way in Hell will Arkansas leave the SEC) Barnhart.

Big 12 sources say Arkansas has put out feelers about a move
Chip Brown Orangebloods.com June 17, 2010

Just when it looked like realignment in college athletics might be winding down, multiple sources in the Big 12 told Orangebloods.com Arkansas has put out feelers about a possible move to the Big 12 to reconnect with former Southwest Conference rivals like Texas and Texas A&M.

Those sources said Arkansas currently doesn’t have the votes among the Big 12 schools to join the league. But those sources said they would need to see how the television money would work if adding a school or two to know if they’d vote for expansion.

Tom Keegan of the Lawrence Journal-World reported Thursday, according to sources close to Cowboys owner and Arkansas alum Jerry Jones, that Jones wants Arkansas and Notre Dame in the Big 12.

The Big 12 title game is under contract to be played at Cowboys Stadium for the next four years. But after the departure of Nebraska and Colorado, the Big 12 will no longer qualify for a title game after the 2010 season. Under NCAA rules, a league must have 12 schools to qualify for a championship game.

So it would make sense that Jones would want two more teams in the Big 12 so the league would be able to play its title game in Cowboys Stadium for years to come. Jones also helped win a national title at Arkansas in 1964 along with teammate Jimmy Johnson and then-Hogs assistant coach Barry Switzer.

But sources close to Jones said Thursday he has nothing to do with Arkansas’ decision making and could’t be further from anything having to do with college realignment.

“He’s got too much else to do,” the source close to Jones said.

SOURCES: ARKANSAS EYEING BIG 12

Orangebloods.com contacted three executive sources in the Big 12 on Thursday and was told by one executive that Arkansas joining the Big 12 was “a long shot.”

Another said, “Arkansas has definitely put feelers out about joining the Big 12.”

A third executive said, “If anybody can make the math (money) work, it’s Jerry Jones.”

That executive went on to lay out the only scenario he thought it might work for the Big 12: if the money can be adjusted by the Big 12 TV partners – ABC/ESPN and Fox Sports Net – to accommodate Arkansas (possibly with the help of Jerry Jones), then adding Arkansas could make sense, the source said.

That source went on to say if Arkansas joined the Big 12 and realignment started back up with the SEC having to replace a school and possibly looking to get to 14 or even 16, Notre Dame could be back in play.

Several sources, including a source close to the discussions that took place between Notre Dame and the Big Ten over the past month, indicated Notre Dame would remain independent unless it appeared super conferences were forming.

And now that the Big Ten is at 12 schools already, Notre Dame might be more interested in joining the Big 12, where it might be the 12th school added to the league (along with Arkansas).

Notre Dame could also explore having its own TV network inside the Big 12, whereas that would not be an option in the Big Ten, which has a conference network that requires everyone to share their inventory.

A source close to Texas said athletic director DeLoss Dodds and Notre Dame athletic director Jack Swarbrick have “a very close” relationship. The source said Dodds has helped serve as a mentor to Swarbrick since Swarbrick took over as Notre Dame’s AD in June of 2008.

ARKANSAS DENIES LOOKING AROUND

Arkansas athletic director Jeff Long issued a statement Wednesday denying any reports that the Razorbacks are looking around.

“In recent weeks and months there has been much national dialogue regarding conference affiliation in intercollegiate athletics,” Long said.

“In the course of that dialogue some have suggested that the University of Arkansas was an institution that may be pursued by other conferences.

“From the beginning, we have been very clear that the University of Arkansas is a proud member of the Southeastern Conference and has no interest in joining another conference.

“Chancellor Gearhart has been unwavering in his support of our institution’s continued membership in the SEC. Recent events have not in any way altered our commitment or desire to remain a member of what we believe is the strongest conference in the nation.”

BIG 12 STAYING AT 10?

Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe said Tuesday in a teleconference his league is not looking to expand.

But two of the Big 12 executives Orangebloods.com spoke to on Thursday said they fear there will be a push by some, especially in Texas, to add at least two more schools from within the state.

“There will be a push by state schools like the University of Houston, especially among lawmakers and at the regent level, to get into the Big 12,” the source said.

According to the Houston Chronicle, that push is already under way.

The Chronicle reported more than two dozen Houston-area legislators put in writing their support Thursday for the University of Houston to gain admission to the Big 12 Conference.

Texas representatives Garnet Coleman (D-Houston) and Bill Callegari (R-Katy) co-authored a letter asking Big 12 officials to consider UH for a spot in the 10-team conference, the newspaper reported.

The letter will be sent to the Big 12 school presidents and the league office on Thursday. The delegation also sent copies of the letter championing the cause of UH’s admission into a Bowl Championship Series conference to Gov. Rick Perry, Lt. Gov. David Dewhurst and House Speaker Joe Straus, the Chronicle said.

Beebe has repeatedly said if the Big 12 was to expand it would be outside the current geographical footprint of the conference.

Arkansas and South Bend, Ind., are certainly outside the current geographical footprint of the new, 10-member Big 12.

Stay tuned.

Atlanta Gator

June 18th, 2010
10:16 am

8—-

The Gators appear to be a shoe-in for second place in the NACDA Director’s Cup when the final standings are released in early July. Unfortunately, I don’t think the Gators can catch first-place Stanford. Stanford is like Florida in that they have a very well-rounded athletic program, but the Cardinal teams play about ten more sports than the Gators do, giving them a natural advantage.

Atlanta Gator

June 18th, 2010
10:24 am

If Notre Dame won’t join the Big Ten (Dozen), where it is understood to have a standing invitation to join for years, why in God’s name would the Irish join the Big XII (X)? None of Notre Dame’s traditional rivals (Michigan, Michigan State, Penn State, Purdue, USC) are in the Big XII (X), and a conference schedule would make scheduling its traditional regional and national rivals. Joining the Big XII would dramatically increase their travel costs and travel time for all sports teams, not just the football team. Notre Dame is not willing to give up their own television contract with NBC because it funds a huge portion of their athletic department budget.

Notre Dame to the Big XII (X) ain’t happening.

Atlanta Gator

June 18th, 2010
10:25 am

“. . . make scheduling its traditional regional and national rivals more difficult.” I need an editor.

POAD

June 18th, 2010
11:07 am

bama fan if Bama didn’t have 100 kids on scholarship before the season and have to kick players off the team Bama wouldn’t be any better than Vandy. have all the bama player learned to color inside the lines yet?

Atlanta Gator

June 18th, 2010
11:22 am

Several Pac-10, ACC and Texas fans have written a lot of smack-talk on this blog this past week about the state of academics in the SEC. Well, guess what? Lost in the Realignmentpalooza of this past week, the NCAA released its annual Academic Progress Rate (APR) report for Division I sports. APR is a rolling average of sorts that measures both the six-year graduation rate of student-athletes as well as their accumulation of the necessary academic credits for graduation. A perfect APR score is 1,000, and 920 is a failing score that could lead to NCAA sanctions such as the loss of scholarships for failing programs. So, let’s see how the SEC football programs do in comparison to, for instance, the ACC in national APR rankings and among the other 120 Division programs?

5. Duke (983 APR–1st ACC)

6. Miami (!) (978 APR–2d ACC)

9. Vanderbilt (975 APR–1st SEC)

14. Georgia (973 APR–2d SEC)

17. Florida (971 APR–3d SEC)

23. Boston College (967 APR–3d ACC)

23. Clemson (967 APR–3d ACC)

23. Georgia Tech (967 APR–3d ACC)

27. Wake Forest (966 APR–6th ACC)

28. LSU (!) (965 APR–4th SEC)

33. Alabama (957 APR–5th SEC)

33. UNC (957 APR–7th ACC)

41. Kentucky (951 APR–6th SEC)

52. UVa (947 APR–8th ACC)

65. Tennessee (944 APR–7th SEC)

72. Virginia Tech (940 APR–9th ACC)

76. Mississippi State (939–8th SEC)

79. South Carolina (938 APR–9th SEC)

82. North Carolina State (937 APR–10th ACC)

84. Auburn (935 APR–10th SEC)

97. Arkansas (930 APR–11th SEC)

100. Maryland (929 APR–11th ACC)

104. FSU (927 APR–12th ACC)

110. Ole Miss (921 APR–12th SEC)

Without casting aspersions, the APR rankings provide an objective measure of how sports programs are doing in terms of the progress that its student-athletes are making toward graduating with a college degree. As we review the list above, the myth of the ACC’s overwhelming academic superiority appears, well, a little exaggerated. When Vanderbilt, Georgia and Florida all hav a better APR than 10 of the 12 ACC football programs, and Alabama and UNC have identical APR scores, some folks might want to reconsider just how vigorously they beat their hairy little chests about “academic superiority.”

One other notable fact, the Pac-10, that athletic conference of purported ivory tower academic standards, just accepted Colorado into its ranks as its 11th member. Colorado’s football APR was 920, 112th among 120 division programs, and the NCAA will be penalizing CU 4 of its 85 football scholarships. CU’s basketball program scored an 897 APR and will be penalized 1 of its 12 basketball scholarships.

Oops. I almost forgot. Guess how that purported paragon of academic superiority, the University of Texas, scored on its football APR. Well, the Longhorns football program scored a respectable 947 APR, good enough for 52nd among all 120 FBS football programs—-and ranked behind SIX SEC football programs, including Vanderbilt, Georgia, Florida, LSU, Alabama and Kentucky.

Put that in your wannabe Left Coast waterpipe and smoke it, Bevo.

Atlanta Gator

June 18th, 2010
11:26 am

Hey, POAD—-

Hoswabout those UGA vs. Georgia Tech APR rankings?

Atlanta Gator

June 18th, 2010
11:28 am

For that matter, howsabout those Florida vs. FSU APR rankings?

17th vs 104th. Wow. Wasn’t some little shorthorn fella on this blog the other day, spouting off abut how there’s no difference between the University of Florida and Florida State?

Atlanta Gator

June 18th, 2010
11:34 am

T3

June 18th, 2010
12:45 pm

ANYONE with any knowledge KNOWS the APR is a manufactured NCAA compliance gimmick to give PR cover to schools that regularly admit
THE MOST acadmically unqualified athletes to play sports.
Kind of like UGA’s infamous Special Admissions program.

By the the very fact that UGA ranks 2nd in the SEC, behind only Vandy, and ranks slightly lower than Duke…is ALL thats needed to prove that the APR measure is COMPLETE crap.

Its laughable to use the APR as any ACCURATE measure.

T3

June 18th, 2010
1:39 pm

OOOOOOHHHHHH Man. This is gonna be good !!!!!!!!!!!!

If there is no BIG12 Championship game, good ole Jerry Jones
is gonna lose TENS OF MILLIONS of revenue for “Jerry World.”

“Publicly”…theres been comments that TX and OK dont like playing a
BIG12 championship game.

So, that means, we’re gonna have a gret big tug-of-war:

Jerry Jones (Arkansas alum) vs. the BIG12 (aka Texas & OK)…

…over expanding back to 12 teams with the addition of Arkansas
and playing a BIG12 championship game at Jerry World.

Boy, this is REEEEEAAAALLLYYYY gonna be a “Clash of the Titans”
that gets played out over the next few weeks.

Bobby's Cox

June 18th, 2010
2:43 pm

Burning question for MR. College Football…Can ESPN survive the potential departure of Erin “Peeka-a-boo” Andrews. Apparently, MS. Holo Somer is seeking greener pastures or a new male gene pool to frequent..Looks will only carry you so far, so she better strike while the iron is still hot.

I wish they would go back to sideline reporters that actually enhance the broadcast with their knowledge and insight of the game from the field level perspective. I still think former players that can articulate the flow of the game and offer strategic insight best suit the role of a true sideline reporter.

I am for Erin becoming a weather anchor..We need to bring sexy back to the weather. They still have sexy babes doing the weather in other countries, why do we have old farts for local weather. It’s bad enough that they subject us to 10 plus minutes of Live Doppler, Nexrad, who gives a crap 90% of the time radar coverage-AT LEAST GIVE us something to look at that is appealing. While we are at it, can we have only good looking women as stewardess on flights..No more 55 year old burned out flight attendants who like like Pat from Saturday Night Live or guys named Jeff who are more feminine than their female counterparts..

Delbert D.

June 18th, 2010
3:07 pm

Atlanta Gator – Georgia Tech lost by 7 again to Georgia. Wow, is this scientific, or what…

Delbert D.

June 18th, 2010
3:08 pm

Bobby’s Cox – Take Heather Grinch…please.

Atlanta Gator

June 18th, 2010
4:05 pm

Delbert D.—-

It’s just a manufactured statistic. Meaningless, really. So meaningless, in fact, that the University of Colorado is losing 4 football scholarships and 1 basketball scholarship. Yup. Just a made-up statistic. The University of Idaho is loosing 6 football scholarships, Florida Atlanta 2 and New Mexico 1. Yup, that crazy ol’ APR, it sure is meaningless.

I also note for the record that FSU is only 2 points above the level for sanctions, and Ole Miss is 4 points below, putting both the FSU and Ole Miss programs at risk of scholarship losses in future years of they don’t turn it around. Yes, sir, that APR thingy really is meaningless.

Atlanta Gator

June 18th, 2010
4:11 pm

In fact, the APR is so meaningless that Duke University is bragging the APR scores of its athletic teams on its official athletics department website:

http://www.goduke.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=4200&ATCLID=204944579

Atlanta Gator

June 18th, 2010
4:15 pm

In fact, the NCAA’s APR doo-hickey is such a joke that the News-Observer, the state of North Carolina’s most widely circulated newspaper, is giving significant coverage to the fact that Duke, NC State, UNC, Wake Forest combined have 30 teams ranked in the top 10% of their respective sports:

http://www.newsobserver.com/2010/06/10/524452/ncaa-stats-show-classroom-rankings.html

But, hey, it’s just a meaningless made-up number. No real meaning, right?

Atlanta Gator

June 18th, 2010
4:21 pm

T3—-

You do know that UGA is ranked 58th among all national universities, public and private, right? Only 11 places behind your precious Texas at 47th, right? You do know that Texas is tied with Florida at 47th, right? You do know that Florida’s SATs are higher and that Florida’s admission standards are more difficult, right.

I know. I know. Meaningless statistics, sort of like the fact that Florida brings in $141 million more in sponsored research grants than Texas does, right? Just another meaningless, made-up number, I suppose.

Be gone, BEVO.

Atlanta Gator

June 18th, 2010
4:25 pm

A whole bunch of smack-talk was tossed around about research grants this past week in the context of college sports conferences.

For anyone remotely interested in how research universities actually rank each other, follow this link:

http://mup.asu.edu/research2009.pdf

Delbert D.

June 18th, 2010
5:15 pm

Atlanta Gator – I’m sure that Jimbo will get the Seminoles off the edge of the cliff. More correspondence courses. No hope for the Mississippi Plantationeers, I’m afraid.

I downloaded the MUP document the other night, and I was please to see Emory (my son’s school) ranked right there with Virginia. I wish it included more schools, because I’m really interested in Houston’s claims of top research. Tier 4, top research university?

Delbert D.

June 18th, 2010
5:18 pm

Atlanta Gator – Oh, and I’m glad the 7-point coincidence for Georgia and Georgia Tech’s APR and last November’s game is just that. That will save me a bunch of money in lost bets.

Delbert D.

June 18th, 2010
5:36 pm

“Be gone, BEVO.”

It’s got to be really tough going through life as a steer.

Jesse James

June 18th, 2010
5:37 pm

College Football and College Basketball are both corrupt outfits. Go College World Series and College Baseball. 11 scholarships, what a joke! NCAA get it right and quit descriminating!

Jesse James

June 18th, 2010
5:42 pm

I know, I mispelled discriminating. Sorry!

Atlanta Gator

June 18th, 2010
6:01 pm

Delbert D.—-

Looking over the ACC and SEC APR results, I thought at least three schools had surprising scores:

1. LSU, which is not normally thought of as one of the leading academic institutions of the SEC, scored very high.

2. Mississippi State, which is consistently rated as one of the two academic stepchildren of the SEC, has an APR above that of 3 ACC football programs and 4 SEC teams. Surprising. I’m still afraid to look at MSU’s basketball APR, because it’s going to be bad.

3. Virginia’s football APR is embarrassingly low, given the present state of the football program (barely competitive within the ACC), the quality of the institution and the academic resources available. All things being, equal, I would have thought that Miami and Virginia’s respective APRs would have been reversed

Atlanta Gator

June 18th, 2010
6:02 pm

Delbert D.—-

Looking over the ACC and SEC APR results, I thought at least three schools had surprising scores:

1. LSU, which is not normally thought of as one of the leading academic institutions of the SEC, scored very high.

2. Mississippi State, which is consistently rated as one of the two academic stepchildren of the SEC, has an APR above that of 3 ACC football programs and 4 SEC teams. Surprising. I’m still afraid to look at MSU’s basketball APR, because it’s going to be bad.

3. Virginia’s football APR is embarrassingly low, given the present state of the football program (barely competitive within the ACC), the quality of the institution and the academic resources available. All things being equal, I would have expected that Miami and Virginia’s respective APRs would have been reversed.

Delbert D.

June 18th, 2010
6:31 pm

Atlanta Gator – Everybody’s punching bag, being mentioned in the Big Ten expansion, is Rutgers. Their football multiyear APR set a new record at 992. They’ve put nearly $120 million into facilities improvement recently, including stadium expansion and a new football facility.

Delbert D.

June 18th, 2010
7:38 pm

Delbert D.

June 18th, 2010
7:49 pm

That’s an oops…wrong blog.

Atlanta Gator

June 18th, 2010
9:08 pm

Delbert—-

Rutgers is all dressed up like a prom date for the Big Ten (Dozen). Good grades, nice dress, nice hair, hangs around other AAU members. I hope the Big Ten (Dozen) doesn’t lead Rutgers on and leave her waiting by the phone (like they did to that other poor Miss out west).

Delbert D.

June 19th, 2010
11:22 am

Atlanta Gator – Great analogy.

POAD

June 21st, 2010
9:24 am

Tony get back we need to BLOG

npgator

June 21st, 2010
10:22 am

As long as Tony is gone I will remain first!

Best of Atlanta

June 21st, 2010
11:18 am

————————————–
……Nesbitt for Heisman……
————————————–

RxDawg

June 21st, 2010
11:19 am

Oh dear, I just got back to this blog after the weekend. AG, I have a mild internet blog crush now. Those retorts about “academic superiority” were just pure gold. Bravo.

Hang down your head Vince Dooley

June 21st, 2010
12:41 pm

Ah yes……kids want to go where the rules are loose. That’s why they always came to me. Class? We don’t need no stinking class! All we need are wards of the state, who can hit hard, run fast and read well enough to apply for welfare. I still hate the Kemp woman, bless her heart.

Gotta another payment to Herschel’s momma this week!
Vince Doodley

savannah dawg

June 23rd, 2010
7:53 pm

How’s ya mama and dem?

npgator

June 25th, 2010
10:19 am

249th and first! I still get teary eyed every time I see that I am first and have been for a week! Life is good!

SC Rules!!! (No more, for now)

June 27th, 2010
2:00 pm

Well, I must say that these past couple of weeks have sucked out loud. I am not one of the many Trojan fans who see a conspiracy under every tea leaf nor do I still blame SEC folks for our plight. This is the bed we made, now we get too sleep in it. Too bad Coach Carroll still has the “rose” colored glasses on. He was the toast of the town, but in the end it seems that wasn’t enough. Maybe he’ll find what he is looking for in the NFL. Doubt it; but who knows.

If my friend “shane#1″ is out there awaiting the start of practice to start chiming in again; pardner, these are some seriously cr@ppy times we Southlanders find ourselves in. Too make things worse, if that is possible, fUCLA is on the rise just as we find ourselves with a big bite of that “sh!t sandwich” too chew on.

Well I won’t end on a doom & gloom note here; the AWWA show last week went very well and the flight back to LAX was smooth as glass.