The SEC sure is being quiet on expansion

Okay, I tried to stay away. I tried to be a good boy and take time off and ignore the computer. But the expansion story is just too good. Some quick observations today. You already know most this stuff but I just want a chance to weigh in and get your thoughts.

1. The SEC is being awfully quiet in all this. Various media reports say Nebraska to the Big Ten is done and will be announced on Friday. There are also reports out there that very quietly, Mike Slive and his folks at the SEC could still invite Texas and Texas A&M if the Big 12 breaks up. Would Oklahoma and Oklahoma State come along? Yes, I know about the Pac-10 offer to the six Big 12 teams (Texas, A&M, Texas Tech, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Colorado). But as one official put it to me yesterday: Do you think DeLoss Dodds (the Texas athletics director) would rather send his women’s softball team to Pullman, Washington (home of  Pac-10 member Washington State) or Tuscaloosa, Ala? I know all about the academic arguments in favor of the Pac-10. I’ll believe it when I see it.

People keep telling me that the SEC should do nothing. But if the Pac-10 and the Big Ten both go to 16 teams, can the SEC stay with a pat hand?

There is absolutely nothing coming out of the SEC on this. This is as locked down as I’ve ever seen them. That should make some people nervous because Slive is one of those “speak softly and carry a big stick” kind of guys.

2. Can Texas, Texas A&M save the Big 12? Various media reports have officials from the two schools meeting today. Understand that Dodds and A&M athletics director Bill Byrne have the juice to hold the league together even if Nebraska and Colorado (to the Pac-10) both leave. The Big 12 can pick up TCU, which further strengthens the Dallas market. I would also pick up SMU. Great academics and a football program on the rise with June Jones as coach. If the Big 12 doesn’t fall apart, then this process could be relatively calm. But Texas could decide that staying in the Big 12 is simply delaying the inevitable breakup.

3. But does the Big Ten stop at 12 teams? In the short term it could happen. Commissioner Jim Delany recently put it out there that expansion for his league could come in stages. Because Delany’s grand plan could put two conferences (Big East, Big 12) out of business, perhaps he decides to go on the installment plan.

4. Forget Notre Dame. With Nebraska set to accept the Big Ten’s offer on Friday, I think it closes the door on Notre Dame becoming a member of that conference. I could see Notre Dame becoming the 12th member of the Big Ten. I can’t see the Irish being the 13th or 14th or 16th member. Now all of that could change if the Big East falls apart. The Notre Dame would have to find another home for men’s basketball and its non-revenue sports.

5. The Pac-10 will expand. Even if the grand plan (inviting six teams from the Big 12) does not come to pass, that conference will still add at least two teams (Colorado and perhaps Utah). The league is getting ready to negotiate its next TV contract in football and it has to bring someting new to the market place.  Here is another factor: The Pac-10’s  marquee program, The University of Southern California, is about to get hammered by the NCAA. The Pac-10 has gotta do something.

Stayed tuned. The next 24 hours could be really interesting.

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John

June 11th, 2010
12:25 am

RollTide, It’s not about markets. It’s about match-ups. OU, TAMU, FSU, and Clemson to SEC. write it down now.

GTville

June 11th, 2010
12:31 am

The ACC has an open an offer to Notre Dame.

Notre Dame will die in the Big 10 and just become a midwestern school; unless Big10 picks up ACC southern schools. Notre Dame in ACC gives them access to the entire East Coast for viewers and for recruiting. ACC is a perfect fit for ND tradition and academics.

If ND joins ACC either all existing ACC schools stay. FSU may leave but they are offset with ND. If ND does not join ACC, FSU and 1-3 others may leave for the SEC. GT may or may not be one of these. If GT is not and Big10 does not move for at least 2-3 southern schools, then GT is toast.

SEC really wants TX, TXA&M, OK, and OK State. TX and OK are huge rivals and will not split up. Neither will leave without their in-state counterparts. Hence the “Tech” problem for B10 and SEC…neither want Texas Tech.

Simple Techster

June 11th, 2010
2:25 am

To the idiot proclaiming himself as “beating Tech is our birthright”

Dude…you said UGA were national champs in 1927, 1942, 1946, 1968 and 1980.

WRONG!!!!!!
in 1927 Georgia was #1 in ONE poll out of MANY. 1946-ONE poll out of MANY. 1968-ONE poll out of many.

From your own college website: ” Both 1980 and 1942 teams were consensus champions, being chosen by atleast half of the recognized polls. Three other teams- 1927, 1946 & 1968- were recognized by polls such as the Williamson and the Litkenhous” THE WHAT POLLS? Are you serious? YOUR OWN SCHOOL RECOGNIZES IT ONLY HAS TWO NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIPS.

TECH has 4 national championships. GEORGIA has 2. IDIOTS.
Oh….and for you chomping and b*&$#ing about our 1990 national championship….there were TWO major polls. Not 8. Not 12. TWO. AP and UPI(coaches). We won the coaches poll.

You said” If wanna claim 1990 then that opens doors cause all it takes is for ONE poll to name you #1 at the end of the season to proclaim champions. And colorado played a much tougher schedule than you did that year”

You, first of all, tried to down us for talking about the ONE poll bullcrap…..WHEN YOU JUST DID IT FOR 3 OF YOUR IMAGINARY NATIONAL TITLES. Secondly….it is A COMMONLY AND NATIONALLY accepted fact that it took Colorado, who began the season ranked #5, an illegal 5 downs to beat Missouri, tied Tennessee and lost to UNRANKED Illinois. It took them 4 fourth quarter touchdowns to be Nebraska…..who we happend to COMPLETLY DOMINATE in our bowl game. We started the season unranked, tied UNC(coached by Texas’s own Mack Brown), beat #1 Virginia in Charlottesville and beat you by 17 points in Athens.

YOU HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO IDEA WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT. YOU ARE HURTING YOURSELF, MAKING DAWG FANS LOOK EVEN MORE DUMB, AND YOU HAVE MADE A COMPLETE IDIOT OF YOURSELF. SIT DOWN AND SHUT UP.

Tell you what, why dont you go back to Athens and ask the puppies why they were so scared to allow Tech to come back into the SEC in the 70’s? THEY VOTED AGAINST IT.It was because Georgia thought they had a recruiting advantage because Tech left the SEC. Its an acknowledged fact. While we are on the subject, Tech left the SEC because of Bear Bryant and Alabama…..who were doing some really dirty, underhanded stuff, and the SEC was too chickensh*t to do anything about it.

Leave the state of Georgia and ask ANYONE to name a former coach of the Bulldogs. You won’t get an answer. Because no one knows, and no one cares. Ask the same question about Tech, and you will get 2…..John Heisman (HEISMAN TROPHY) and Bobby Dodd(Bobby Dodd Coach of the Year Award). We were the first to win all FOUR major bowls. Something Georgia STILL has not done.

Now….if the SEC does expand, lets put some sense into the rumor mill. Florida will NOT allow any other Florida school to join. Period. So scratch off Miami and FSU. You cant get Virginia or Virginia Tech without adding them both. REPEAT: You cannot say Virginia Tech only. ACC has been down that road already. You dont get ANY of the Tobacco road schools(UNC, NC State, Duke or Wake Forest) without adding them all. Politicians in NC wont let it happen. Now for those who laugh when someone says Tech and the Big10, thier own commissioner acknowledged that the population of the US has shifted south and east and they would follow suit, but no one is talking about that. Georgia Tech just became a member of the invite-only AAU(NO, GEORGIA IS NOT AND NEVER WILL BE A MEMBER) which is a pre-requisite of Big 10 membership. It was the first university to be invited in TEN YEARS. It is a HUGE deal. And if Tech does join the SEC, it makes the SEC better both academically and in sports. Mr. Moron above said that Tech is broke….ummm…no idiot, we report our debt differently and are paying ours off faster. UGA’s debt load was at 102 million last year, FAR above ours. If Georgia doesnt start winning again, they will be in serious trouble. You guys keep saying this and that school add nothing…..the SEC is known as the idiot conference, it knows this, and will fix it during expansion.

One more quote” Dawg football is as constant as death and taxes”. Florida and Alabama have made you have-beens in your own conference. The only constant you have is your downward spiral which will end in Richts termination. There are more Dawg fans in Georgia because the majority of thier graduates stay in Georgia after they leave. The opposite is true with Tech…our graduates are HIRED all over the world, and thus less people hanging around to go to the games. So…i’m not so sure i would be bragging about that. See the “you are making yourself look like an idiot” statement above. Will Muschamp, Kirby Smart, Ellis from SC all turned down your DC job. Us…..We just won our conference. We have more teams ranked in preseason polls than any other conference. Tech is in the TOUGHEST division in the country with VT, UNC and Miami…all ranked.

Simple Techster

June 11th, 2010
2:50 am

Lets talk about some of the teams who will move….

1). West Virginia.
2). Houston-football program getting stronger. Just unveiled plans for a new stadium. Sounds like they may know something.
3). Rutgers. AAU member. Huge NY market.
4). Pitt-AAU member. tired of being irrelevant in the Big East
5). Syracuse-same as above….but no strong football team to make it attractive.
6). Notre Dame-in danger of becoming a nobody independent and being left out of the super-conference structure.
7). TCU and Boise State.
8) The Big 12 leftovers…..what happens to them?

Dick Nixon

June 11th, 2010
7:13 am

Why would the SEC want Clemson? Not enough money, theur only tradition is cheating only 2 major appearances in over 100 hundred years, come on we already have Auburn and Bama to cheat

Dick Nixon

June 11th, 2010
7:15 am

O and Tech sucks!

RedGA Dawg

June 11th, 2010
7:58 am

Appears that the teams that are moving are bottom feeders, CO is no threat to take PAC-10’s BCS slot, Baylor would have nbeen more of a patsy. NE fits perfectly in slowwwwwwwwwwwww Big 10. Why would OhIo ST, MI, Penn State want a TX team that will consistently be the conference champ. Can not see logic of SEC or ACC wanting to pick up top teams who will deny current members champioships and access to BCS bowls. Big 12 will relaod with TX schools that will be better fits than CO and NE.

DogE

June 11th, 2010
8:03 am

Like I read on another post: Its hard to believe 12 schools from the South can cause the entire college sports scene to be turned head over heels.

unbelievable

June 11th, 2010
8:51 am

wow, reading 8 pages of this has made my head hurt. It doesn’t seem like things will get to dramatic today but you never know. It seems a given that Nebraska is going to the B10/11 today, but that the B12 is aware of that. I don’t think it breaks apart with the loss of Colo and Neb. But you never know.

Delany already said his expansion could come in stages, so he may be done for now. The B12’s major players are all in the south and still together so they may well how pat or add 2 to keep their champ game. Colo + Neb won’t even actually leave until 2012. These are all smart guys and they don’t get paid to make knee jerk reactions.

All we know so far is the B10/11 just got to 12. The pac10 just went to eleven and will more than likely get to 12. The B 12 just lost 2 (1 for sure, Neb changes its mind today and this garbage end, Mizzou taking its place puts the B12 on better life support)

NO ONE HAS MADE A SUPER CONFERENCE YET. They are all pushing towards 12 for now. The sky is not falling.

And for all the gnats around here, SEC fans don’t want or like you (at least the ones around here) Get over it please. You don’t have to keep trying to justify why you would make a good addition or how superior you are. Lucky for you the SEC fans don’t send out conference invites, so really the point is mute.

Simple Techster

June 11th, 2010
8:57 am

Are all dawg fans this stupid????
Colorado has won a NC in the past twenty years. Georgia hasnt. 3/4 of the SEC hasnt. Tech has, BTW. You bring in better teams to make the conference stronger, which in turn makes your own team stronger. Makes for better games, more fans, more attention, bigger stage and more MONEY. What…are you afraid the SEC will take Texas…and then Georgia slips into even more mediocrity behind Alabama, Florida, and Texas. Chicken…..grow some balls.

Simple Techster

June 11th, 2010
9:03 am

This “gnat” doesnt want to join the SEC. Been there, done that. Its a step down academically. Same reason Texas doesnt want to join, its a step down. Take the major polls out there for preseason rankings and the ACC has just as many and in some cases more teams ranked than the SEC. Give me VT, GT, FSU, Clemson, Miami and UNC over Alabama, Florida, Arkansas, LSU, South Carolina and Georgia ANYDAY.

ps…most preseason polls have GA in the low to mid 20’s…..HAHAHAAAA!!!!!!!

Simple Techster

June 11th, 2010
9:11 am

Oh yeah….for the pansy who keeps praising Phil Steele and yippin about how Phil LOVES Georgia this year……google his SOS for this year and you will find GA #44. GT is #27. Oh my, help me, help me…..the SEC schedule is SOOOOOO HARD………..please. THWG!!!!!

really dude?

June 11th, 2010
9:14 am

too Simple Techster :

I got a good laugh from all that jive about tech being nationally known and all. Yes everyone knows who John Heisman is but when you wiki heisman, what do you get?

(The Heisman Memorial Trophy Award (usually known colloquially as the Heisman Trophy or the Heisman), named after the former Brown University and University of Pennsylvania college football player and coach John Heisman, is awarded annually by the Heisman Trophy Trust to the most outstanding….)

I’m not even a dawg fan, I am an Aggie, and I live in New Mexico, but I can see the cloud of smug that is eminating from your keyboard from here. I thought Horns were bad, man.

Oh and I can name a UGA coach, how about Pop Warner.

People know who the coaches are, but that they coached for your team at some point, eh, not so much. Your team and your conference don’t get much air time out here, and we don’t have much intrest in watching it if it did.

As for all the expansion talk, which is why I sought this newspaper out in the first place (wanted to see what SEC’ers were saying).

Moving to the SEC for us would be interesting, but with our historical and financial ties, plus the politics. I just don’t think its is going to happen. Love it or hate it we are stuck with our kin at UT.

Fillin' up @ Juniors

June 11th, 2010
9:23 am

-really dude?

Lets be fair, you came to the AJC and commented about Georgia tech from New Mexico as an Aggie fan…and you are telling us all that you don’t know about Georgia Tech, but you are commenting in regards to the school. The very fact that you would come here, comment about a school with a long comment post means you actually do care, which only goes to reenforce the fact that there is national awareness of Georgia Tech. So for that, I thank you. Actions > Words

unbelievable

June 11th, 2010
9:25 am

Simple Techster, Yeah Colorado has won a national championship in the last 20 years but the Big 12 can survive lossing them, my point was that Nebraska leaving is a much harder pill to swallow but that even then there could be an attempt to save the conference. AND that none of this will be immediate, the out clause in the B12 is 2012.

Personally I don’t want to see mega conferences. I don’t think it does anything to improve the game. Seeing conferences like the B10, MWC, Big East, and Pac-10 goto 12 is all good, equal footing is awesome and makes for a great december weekend.

Apparetnly all you really want to do here is stir the pot by bashing UGA and thump your chest on how great Tech is. If you would like to add something coherent to the conversation go right ahead and I’d love to read it. Otherwise, it would be nice if you just buzzed off.

unbelievable

June 11th, 2010
9:26 am

but hey, its a free country.

really dude?

June 11th, 2010
9:30 am

didn’t know Heisman had coached for them so I had to look it up. So to fair, thanks for educating me, and to be fair again you do have the same cloud of smug on the other side as well. and UGA meeting us in shreveport got me checking them awhile back so I knew a little on them already.

While this has been entertaining, I’m heading back to the12thman. Have fun.

Fillin' up @ Juniors

June 11th, 2010
9:31 am

I have to say 16 team conferences seem overwhelming, but it does make things more interesting in that there are more implications to each game. We will see teams playing each other that we don’t see today, and a 4 BCS conference NCAA means we are one giant step closer to a playoff, and then no one has to suffer what Auburn did in 2004…

I would also add, as a Tech fan I was intreged buy the change to restart our rivalries with the SEC but I find I prefer the class, both figurativly and literally, better in the ACC and Big Ten. I am not sure our fan base, either by size or by demeanor fits better with the ACC and Big Ten. There isn’t much to like about SEC fans, sorry guys many of you never went to the school and it shows…

Fillin' up @ Juniors

June 11th, 2010
9:32 am

There are several grammer errors in my comment above and I am embarrassed…

unbelievable

June 11th, 2010
10:18 am

Hey fillin’ up,

I thought that way at first about the 16 with 4 mega’s but I think their would actually be more, MegaACC, MegaSEC, MegaPAC, MegaB10 are given, but MWC has merrit and could pick up B12 scraps to make MegaMWC and now you have 5. Big East left overs combine with some confUSA or MAC and form at least an argument for inclusion then you have 6.

I just don’t think that they 16’s idea gets us closer to playoff. Would love to see one but I don’t think this is the road map to do it.

GT reminds me now of a

June 11th, 2010
10:32 am

GT to me ( I am over 60) is like a once cute ( not gorgeous girl ) girl and now, after having left town
( SEC ) and failed at movies, acting, modeling, two failed mariages, she is back hanging around the downtown bus station, looking for a bag of “fun” trying to get back in THE CLUB. SHe will do ………anything to get back …………anything.

It ain’t gonna happen …………you lost your looks in the mid 60s.

Charles

June 11th, 2010
10:43 am

MMA is stupidu must be a UGA fan, Clempson indeed.

Now will you nay sayers believe in ....

June 11th, 2010
10:44 am

Now, will you SEC haters see the immense power of the SEC? Their ultra successful championship game in Atlanta and their TV contracts and their big boy bowl trips, have caused all of this to take place.

Folks …………it is about the money. That too will be getting bigger.

Eventually, there will be 4 super conferences and the ACC, WAC, Big Sky and Big East and Mid America conference will be for low to mid tier programs; most of which are best exemplified by the ACC schools or TCU or Bowling Green, or Southern Mississippit U or Memphis University. All, good lil clubs.

The MAJOR networks will SHOVE these lil boy conferences out the door, as the BIB BOY leagues, SEC, etc will suck up ALL of their money. No one will desire watching say a Boston College vs MD. Who cares? How about Clemson vs NC State? AAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHHAHA

Imagine a U of Texas vs a Florida or a Texasa A&M vs a U of Tennessee? THAT IS big boy ball. How about Oklahoma vs LSU? Hmmmmmm?? This slate in the SEC would be every weekend!!!!

This is the reality of all of this maneuvering right now. SEC only gets better.

The polls for 2010 right now

June 11th, 2010
10:50 am

Unless you are under 15, you know that by the second week or third week of the SEASON, the polls will start to shape up. Absolutely, UGA is around # 20. Fine. Frankly, if they were 39, I could care less. WHY?

Mid season is when it matters ………….some teams lose, others win in upsets,etc. By October, it matters only a …………little bitty bit. Come November into December ……….it matters. Now?

AAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHHAHA If it mattered ……..would they not go ahead and name the Champs of all the leagues and name the NC??

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHA ……… too many uneducated kids on here.

roger

June 11th, 2010
10:56 am

you fans in the SEC are like being in a GAY fraternity!

im4bama

June 11th, 2010
10:57 am

I personally like having twelve teams in the SEC. The only thing I don’t like is having a few that suck and need to be replaced, like Vandy and Kentucky or MSU. I think replacing them with Virgia Tech and Florida State or Texas and Oklahoma would surely keep the SEC ahead of everyone else. I still would be very exited to get two of those four in the league no matter what.

Joe B.

June 11th, 2010
11:13 am

The most lucrative additions for the SEC (excluding Texas and Oklahoma) would include Missouri, Texas A&M, Virginia Tech and North Carolina. This is purely a financial advantage as it relates to both expanding the SEC footprint and television markets. It’s always about the bottom line and in this case it all equates to more money per member school based on the conference television contract.

Fillin' up @ Juniors

June 11th, 2010
11:29 am

-The polls for 2010 right now

Is 100% right on. Pre-season polls mean nothing…I shouldnt even have to explain or give examples but just for poops and giggles, Michigan ranked #2 last season of Carr, UGA #1 last season of stafford, the list is long. Preseason polls are garbage. As a tech fan I am encouraging other tech fans not to use this arguement the rest of the offseason, seriously.

im4bama, Really? you don’t like having the bad teams? Math Question… If there are 6 teams in the league and they all play each other how many losses will a team average? the answer is 2.5 defeats per season. Now lets say you have the best 6 teams in the country play each other how many defests per season would they have…drum roll..2.5 per season. Which means no matter what teams play there will be those who win, those who lose. If you kick out your bottom feeders someone will replace them as the new bottome feeders…any ideas who that might be? Maybe your school…maybe someone elses. Every league has to have their bad teams, thats how things work out, kicking out the bottom teams will only replace them with new ones thus not fixing your problem. Way to think though your theory..(sarcasm)

Dream Big

June 11th, 2010
11:33 am

The best Big 10 expansion scenario includes securing Texas, New York / New Jersey, and Notre Dame. The best 5 expansion teams include Texas A&M, Notre Dame, Texas, Syracuse and Rutgers. Virginia, Maryland, North Carolina, Missouri and Nebraska are alternates. Texas and Texas A&M are a must to secure Texas. Syracuse and Rutgers are a must to secure New York / New Jersey. All of the top teams are part of the AAU except Notre Dame and all are ranked in the top 100 academically by US News & World Report. More importantly, these schools represent 50 million plus in state population.

The best Pac 10 expansion scenario includes securing Texas and the remainder of the Western USA. The best 6 expansion teams include Texas A&M, Texas, Colorado, Oklahoma, Kansas, and Nebraska. Texas A&M and Texas are a must to secure Texas. Utah, BYU and Missouri are alternates. All of the top teams are part of the AAU except Oklahoma and all of the schools are ranked close to or in the top 100 academically by US News & World Report except for Utah. More importantly, these schools represent 33 million plus in state population.

Fillin' up @ Juniors

June 11th, 2010
11:46 am

Dream Big, Texas is a gold mine and so to is Notre Dame, but a lot of these college teams don’t get a whole lot of love from their TV markets…aka NY and NJ don’t watch college sports, some goes for Boston college. You would think you can dominate the Boston market but those cities just aren’t that into college football. The key is to focus on hot recruiting beds which corralate to strong football loving TV viewers. Thats why Texas, Oklahoma, Nebraska are hot commodities and missouri, Kansas, BYU, and Utah aren’t…Population is not nearly as big a factor as demograhics.

TexasAlum00

June 11th, 2010
5:16 pm

Well, it’s Friday and the Pac-16 hasn’t shaped up yet. Thank God. Every Sooner, Aggie, and Horn fan I’ve spoken to is having second thoughts about going west and being bossed around by California.

I still say, in the end, Texas and A&M will stick together and go to the SEC. It’s the smart move.

Matt the Brave

June 11th, 2010
5:26 pm

The 16-team conference had a major flaw in that it broke down into 4 sub-groups rather than just two groups. Don’t be surprised if the NCAA says that teams can play 13 games again in the regular season. Either that, or you’ll see these superconferences go down to one creampuff game a year.

DavidSDawg

June 11th, 2010
6:34 pm

I was born in Athens,grew up in Barrow County, and called Winder home; the son of a Georgia Alum and a life long Georgia fan. I am all for Georgia Tech coming back to the SEC. Make it happen, and may they bring Clemson with them. When some say they bring nothing to the table fail to recognize the natural rivalries that GT fosters with Alabama. Auburn, Georgia, Tennessee, and Clemson.. Why can’t the “Clean Old Fashion Hate” of the Georgia -Georgia Tech rivalry be a conference game. It should mean more than bragging rights. There should be consequences to losing .Tradition and Rivalry are what College Football is all about. The Enemy of My Enemy is My Friend on Any Given Saturday. In other words as a conference member, a Yellow Jacket trip to the Swamp, I’m all for um. Beat them Gators. Oh GT is 23 – 9 versus the Lizards. When they play Bama, “Roll Tide” What a rivalry between Bear Bryant and Bobby Dodd must have been.. The SEC has had a doughnut hole in it sense forever, it is called the Tech Campus. Lets see that hole filled in, and make the South Solid SEC.Oh, and did I mention bring Clemson too. The Georgia-Clemson Rivalry is another semi dormant tilt that needs to be brought back on an annual basis.
In all three in state out of conference teams should be invited to Join. FSU, GT, Clemson, and Louisville.
GATA Dawgs !

big12guy

June 11th, 2010
9:50 pm

bama67, you are showing your ignorance:

* Over the last seven years, only Texas and Texas A&M have won more Big 12 titles than Baylor.
* In 2009-10, Baylor set a school record for the second year in a row as 15 of the school’s 18 varsity teams played in the postseason.
* Academically, Baylor student-athletes have led the conference in graduation rate five times and finished second three times in the Big 12’s 14 seasons, earning special recognition from the NCAA in three of the past five seasons.
* Baylor ranks fourth among Big 12 schools in the latest U.S. News rankings.

Baylor’s Sears Director’s Cup rankings over the lats 5 years (271 schools ranked): 33 (5), 42 (7), 38 (6), 32 (5), 25 (4)

Number in parentheses is Big 12 ranking.

Baylor has not done well in football, but their overall athletic program and academics are solid.

Tico

June 12th, 2010
2:25 am

why would GT join the sec…….when they have subpar BBall and same BCS status……the ACC just signed a great TV deal in football that is 2 years longer than the mighty non winning except florida deal……….when is the last time uga even won a national championship anyway????

Tico

June 12th, 2010
2:33 am

would love to see GT back in then acc and the natural rivalies that David said but the UGA fans show some colors by acting stupid and being scared of GT getting the spotlight cuz they are in the city and UGA is in the country………alot of this realignment centers on media market and the last I checked Atlanta was a little bit bigger than Athens

Tico

June 12th, 2010
2:35 am

sec even lol

Tico

June 12th, 2010
2:39 am

back when GT went independent, they still kept playing auburn, fla, and alabama cuz they were rivals from way back……..I do miss those games…… added teams like ND, USC and pitt….and not the usc from carolina lol

Tico

June 12th, 2010
3:21 am

how many of you actually played the game in college?

Tico

June 12th, 2010
3:47 am

looks like the pac10 is now the major conference in football by far…..a&m can go to sec but still they are bout the 3rd or 4th team in their state

Tico

June 12th, 2010
3:49 am

boomer sooner nation always counted the aggies as an easy win

CHAD

June 12th, 2010
6:30 am

why would u not offer to Texas A&M and North Carolina? It would add viewers and not to mention what it would do for basketball!

OakTree

June 12th, 2010
5:30 pm

Atm will go with Texas. They are just trying to make themselves important. Actually all the other Texas teams are just laughing at the aggies. Thay is why people make up aggie jokes.
They will never leave the coat tails of Texas.
atm thinks the rivalry game against Texas is thier superbowl. In reality oklahoma and atm consider it just another game. The real rivalry is Texas and OU. SEC would crush atm just like the big 12 south has been crushing them. They have never played a big 12 champ game.

OakTree

June 12th, 2010
5:32 pm

Does the SEC really want to add and average team like atm? I guess if you are looking for TV markets. However, Texas owns TV market in Texas.

William

June 12th, 2010
11:21 pm

The SEC needs to explore getting Mizzou. It would be the coup of the century!

Derek

June 13th, 2010
12:08 am

You guys crack me up. The only ACC school the SEC might get is FSU and you can have them. In the ACC academics matter. If the SEC called UNC I have a feeling they wouldn’t pick up the phone.

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