The SEC sure is being quiet on expansion
Okay, I tried to stay away. I tried to be a good boy and take time off and ignore the computer. But the expansion story is just too good. Some quick observations today. You already know most this stuff but I just want a chance to weigh in and get your thoughts.
1. The SEC is being awfully quiet in all this. Various media reports say Nebraska to the Big Ten is done and will be announced on Friday. There are also reports out there that very quietly, Mike Slive and his folks at the SEC could still invite Texas and Texas A&M if the Big 12 breaks up. Would Oklahoma and Oklahoma State come along? Yes, I know about the Pac-10 offer to the six Big 12 teams (Texas, A&M, Texas Tech, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Colorado). But as one official put it to me yesterday: Do you think DeLoss Dodds (the Texas athletics director) would rather send his women’s softball team to Pullman, Washington (home of Pac-10 member Washington State) or Tuscaloosa, Ala? I know all about the academic arguments in favor of the Pac-10. I’ll believe it when I see it.
People keep telling me that the SEC should do nothing. But if the Pac-10 and the Big Ten both go to 16 teams, can the SEC stay with a pat hand?
There is absolutely nothing coming out of the SEC on this. This is as locked down as I’ve ever seen them. That should make some people nervous because Slive is one of those “speak softly and carry a big stick” kind of guys.
2. Can Texas, Texas A&M save the Big 12? Various media reports have officials from the two schools meeting today. Understand that Dodds and A&M athletics director Bill Byrne have the juice to hold the league together even if Nebraska and Colorado (to the Pac-10) both leave. The Big 12 can pick up TCU, which further strengthens the Dallas market. I would also pick up SMU. Great academics and a football program on the rise with June Jones as coach. If the Big 12 doesn’t fall apart, then this process could be relatively calm. But Texas could decide that staying in the Big 12 is simply delaying the inevitable breakup.
3. But does the Big Ten stop at 12 teams? In the short term it could happen. Commissioner Jim Delany recently put it out there that expansion for his league could come in stages. Because Delany’s grand plan could put two conferences (Big East, Big 12) out of business, perhaps he decides to go on the installment plan.
4. Forget Notre Dame. With Nebraska set to accept the Big Ten’s offer on Friday, I think it closes the door on Notre Dame becoming a member of that conference. I could see Notre Dame becoming the 12th member of the Big Ten. I can’t see the Irish being the 13th or 14th or 16th member. Now all of that could change if the Big East falls apart. The Notre Dame would have to find another home for men’s basketball and its non-revenue sports.
5. The Pac-10 will expand. Even if the grand plan (inviting six teams from the Big 12) does not come to pass, that conference will still add at least two teams (Colorado and perhaps Utah). The league is getting ready to negotiate its next TV contract in football and it has to bring someting new to the market place. Here is another factor: The Pac-10’s marquee program, The University of Southern California, is about to get hammered by the NCAA. The Pac-10 has gotta do something.
Stayed tuned. The next 24 hours could be really interesting.
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har har har
June 10th, 2010
3:40 pm
Seriously,
Its the distance bro. Lubbock is a two day drive from 99% of SEC schools. And driving through that part of texas suks donkey.
D
June 10th, 2010
3:40 pm
you’re right Gary…all Tech can do is beat Georgia, why would the SEC need something they already have?
check your self
June 10th, 2010
3:42 pm
Yeah D just like the did last year you tell em. uhh… no… wait…
I like the SEC the way it is with 12 teams only!
June 10th, 2010
3:45 pm
Gary,
I do like your 4 team idea if we do expand, but how would it be fair? I am a UT fan. If you did it by regions, UT would have Kentucky, Vandy and who else? In football we would have a big advantage having UK and Vandy each year. On the other hand, If Florida is in the same division as Georgia and (FSU, Clemson, Miami???) that would be unfair. My point is that the 4 team division wouldn’t even out from a competitive standpoint.
IL Jacket
June 10th, 2010
3:47 pm
Don’t worry Georgia fans. Tech neither wants to join SEC nor would accept invitation if one was extended. Been there, done that We are fine where we are, unless B10 were to come calling which would be
a very interesting proposition on several fronts.
The Undertaker
June 10th, 2010
3:49 pm
the Almost Competitive Conference
Silly Silly Bumble Bees
June 10th, 2010
3:49 pm
I would love to see Tech in the Big 10. I think that would be hillarious. I really hope it happens.
heeldawg
June 10th, 2010
3:50 pm
UGA WHO?, for God’s sake, learn some grammar and spelling. Your diction is atrocious.
First, you uninformed moron, Georgia was second in the SEC in the All-Sports trophy and has won over 30 national titles in six different NCAA sports, including baseball, mens’ and womens’ tennis, equestrian, gymnastics, golf, swimming and diving, etc. Most of these were in tha past 30 years. How many NCAA titles has Tech won? One–in womens’ tennis, two years ago. The mythical national titles you claim in football aren’t even NCAA-sanctioned championships, and most of them occurred in the paleolithic era. The only modern one was a split title in 1990–hardly a consensus national title. So which team is good in what sports? I think Georgia stakes a much better claim to athletic and overall football legitimacy than Tech could ever hope to. Georgia has a richer footbal tradition than Tech, better national cachet and has dominated the head-to-head matchups between the two in the last 45 years. So this argument holds no water at all.
With regard to adding Tech to the SEC, why would the league want that? Adding another middling program with a weak fan base in a TV market the SEC controls absolutely (there are far more Georgia fans in Atlanta than Tech fans–and likely more Alabama, Auburn, South Carolina and Tennessee fans, to boot, as Atlanta is the capital of the South) does nothing to help the SEC improve its market clout. Now, Texas, that’s a different thing entirely. UNC and Duke would be huge additions, as well, and would open new frontiers up from a basketball standpoint. That’s where I think that the league could stand to benefit the most–or perhaps from a full-bore SEC/ACC merger.
Shoryland
June 10th, 2010
3:52 pm
Missouri would bring the SEC the St Louis and KC markets, which wouldn’t hurt to have in pocket when the contract’s renegotiated.
Plus, offers to schools in Texas, Virginia, South Carolina would get the SEC into fights with state legislatures. Not Missouri.
http://shoryland.com/2010/06/think-bigger-than-big-ten-missouri.html
Gt4ever
June 10th, 2010
3:52 pm
On the contrary IL Jacket….
GT needs to get back into the conference they NEVER should have left! Our dismal recruiting would get better and our stadium would fill….
Gt4ever
June 10th, 2010
3:57 pm
Another DELUSIONAL dawg fan, heeldawg, please you couldn’t be that stupid. GT’s football history is not even comparable to UGA’s history or lack there of….. UGA football is IRRELEVANT outside of the state of Georgia! Period! We are talking about football here, not all those NON revenue sports you alluded to earlier…. GET A GRIP!
ben
June 10th, 2010
3:58 pm
for those discrediting what fsu and miami bring to the table, look up espn college football ratings over the last 5 years. I think you will be shocked what you see. while they dont add to the footprint so to speak, FSU and UM have big national pull. arguable bigger than most SEC teams who are mostly regional.
Salty Dawg
June 10th, 2010
4:06 pm
They already had a thing in the paper about if gt goes to the sec, they would expand there 60k stadium to 75k
Expand to 75k huh. Why? They can’t sell out the seats they have now without begging alumni to buy tickets. Why would they need to expand? The only possible benefit would be to allow more away team fans. And that being the case, I’m all for it. It’d be hilarious to see Tech fans outnumbered at home games.
Black Coffee & Bourbon
June 10th, 2010
4:06 pm
Ben, you hit the nail on the head. I grew up in New Hampshire and moved down South to go to law school. Living in an area with no dominant college football team FSU and Miami were the teams of choice. When I go back home there are still more Nole and Cane fans up in that area than Syracuse, BC or UConn. Adding FSU and Miami to the SEC would bring more eyes to television and as a result more $$$ in the SEC’s coffers.
ghsclassof2012
June 10th, 2010
4:08 pm
1. UT and A&M are a package deal. Both are state funded and Texas Tech could also be in the package. Texas legislature doesnt want to leave them out.
2. UT and OU are a package. Too much history in that rivalry to throw away. I know they could play nonconference, but similar to UGA and GT, it is a specific date and it would interfere with scheduling.
3. OU and OSU are a package. Same reasons as #1.
These are are all why the Pac 10 are more likely to get the schools than the SEC. The Pac 10 simply has more room for all of the teams that have to come for UT and OU to come.
Sam Robards, Dawg Fan
June 10th, 2010
4:08 pm
Well, with CU to the PAC-10 and Nebraska (most likely) to the Big X, the Big XII is most likely finished. ‘Nuff said on that.
Now, in terms of SEC response? If the PAC-10 and Big X stop at 12-14 teams a piece, I don’t think the SEC needs to do anything. If, however, either goes to 16 teams, the SEC has to respond with at least two acquisitions (four at most, but 14 teams is the most I’m comfortable with in one conference).
Who should those two teams be? Mike Slive needs to go HARD after Texas A&M. Yes, the Aggies are somewhat down right now, but they’re a historically rich school (the Bear coached there, too, if I recall correctly) with a diehard fan base as well as history with several SEC schools (Arkansas and LSU, mainly). It also opens up Texas tv markets to the SEC and would give us a better recruiting foothold into the state.
I’d also like Virginia Tech. They’re in close proximity, have a committed fanbase, and who wouldn’t love to see a VTech-Tennessee game in Bristol with 150,000 fans?
Now what about A&M’s (Texas) and VTech’s (UVA) in-state rivalries? They can keep them! Heck, a quarter of the SEC plays non-conference annual rivalry games anyway (UGA, UF, UK, SC), so what’s two more?
Who SHOULDN’T be considered for the SEC? There are two main candidates in this category.
1) Georgia Tech. As much as I’d like to see the Tech/Tennessee rivalry renewed, Tech just isn’t a good fit (honestly, I don’t think SC is a good fit, either. I’d swap them for Clemson in an instant, but I digress…). They also burned their SEC bridges decades ago, so they Hell with ‘em. No offense.
2) Missouri. Yep. Missouri’s (presumably) getting left outta the Big X deal now that Nebraska snatched it up. I can’t comment on Mizzou’s fanbase, but they’re just too far north to be a part of the SOUTHEASTERN Conference.
Salty Dawg
June 10th, 2010
4:09 pm
I hope Notre Dame gets stuck on the outside looking in. They overestimate how important they are for college football.
I haven’t seen the numbers in a while, but unless something has changed Notre Dame football makes more money than any other program. Think about it. They don’t have to split money with anybody. They get national TV deals even as independents. And they aren’t even good. For God sake, imagine if they could restore their team to the glory days of ND football they would be raking money in hand over fist.
Baba Fat
June 10th, 2010
4:15 pm
Seems like the super conferences would dilute their repective recruiting within the conference.
Sheila
June 10th, 2010
4:15 pm
Gt4ever is correct. Outside of the state of Georgia, UGA is totally irrelevant. The only SEC school that really has a national interest is Florida, and maybe you could add Alabama, but that’s it.
The ACC has several schools, including Georgia Tech, that can draw a TV audience several states away.
About the only reason a non-alumnus outside the state of Georgia would have any interest in UGA would be to see how many football players were arrested that week.
Neki Ecko
June 10th, 2010
4:15 pm
There is so many different reports out there, with nothing but empty and hot air, until it because offical anything can happen from Texas and Friends going to PAC-10 or they split up with Baylor and TAMU going to SEC.
Dave In Tampa
June 10th, 2010
4:18 pm
Now to hear a techies say UGA football is “IRRELEVANT” compared to tech football is funny.
Thanks for the laugh Gt4ever
marseilles mutt
June 10th, 2010
4:19 pm
So bring in GT, Clemson, Miami and FSU into the SEC and you add quality and identity to the conference:
SEC North SEC South
Ky Auburn
Ut Miss
UGA Ark
GT LSU
Clemson Miss. St.
Ala UF
Vandy FSU
SC Miami
And other than stretching it a little with Ark, the SEC still maitains it’s regional identity and still offers a quality product, replete with the nuttiest and most rabid fans in the nation!
No brainer.
chazzo
June 10th, 2010
4:23 pm
If the SEC were to pick up a Texas team (or two), how do you balance the conference. Do you pick up another team from the ACC for the East? Or, do you move Auburn to the East?
fbfan
June 10th, 2010
4:24 pm
What about this report? UT & TAM to Big10 with OU to SEC
http://www.kctv5.com/sports/23860558/detail.html
Dawg Whisperer
June 10th, 2010
4:24 pm
Here’s how my chihuahuas see it. The pure bred dawgs, mixed bred dawgs and chickens in the domesticated division. The gators, tigers, elephants, and wildcats in the wildlife division. The volunteers, plainsmen, rebels and naval officers in the military division. If the SEC is to entertain any newcomers, my chihuahuas prefer a good T-bone courtesy of the Longhorns.
chazzo
June 10th, 2010
4:24 pm
Whoa! Moving Auburn to the East means UF would have to play them every year like the Dawgs. Then, they will know what it is like to play Auburn, Alabama, LSU and your Eastern foes in the same season.
glenn
June 10th, 2010
4:25 pm
Oklahoma wants in the SEC . But would have to bring a date . But yes it looks like Texas & Texas A&M are going into the Big Ten . Maybe Mizzu comes to the SEC .
DP
June 10th, 2010
4:26 pm
Gene Wojciechowski has an interesting column based on an interview with former SEC commissioner Roy Kramer at ESPN. Kramer thinks that now that the dominos have started falling we’ll end up with 5 major conferences. The Pac 10 added Colorado today and adds Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Oklahoma and OK State to go to 16. Missouri goes to the Big 10 which after Nebraska takes them to 13. Then the Big 10 starts looking East, adding Rutgers and maybe Syracuse. That starts the crumbling of the Big East, so Notre Dame is forced to jump to the Big 10 so its sports other than football don’t end up outside of a conference and so it doesn’t end up with football scheduling problems. The Mountain West picks up what’s left of the Big 12 – Kansas, K-State, Baylor and Iowa State, on its way to becoming a major 16 team conference. With the Big East crumbling, the SEC grabs West Virginia and adds Va Tech, FSU and Ga Tech to go to 16. What’s left of the ACC picks up the scraps of the Big East to be the 5th major conference.
Mike
June 10th, 2010
4:31 pm
Just a thought here, but as it sounds right now all the Texas schools are going to the pac10, so my thought on SEC expansion (since were talking about adding revenue) would be the obvious choices, Kansas- storied basketball team and decent football and get the SEC in the plains states for recruiting, next I would say TCU- no it’s not a traditional move, but would get the SEC in the Dallas market and could possibly tie up some games in Jerrys world where there is already a huge Razorback fan base. Also TCU did play in a BCS game last year and have been competitive for several years now or they could add Mizzou, which would be great in a more northerly market with a good fan base and getting those 2 would solidify the SEC in the Kansas city and St Louis markets that could be huge revenue for the SEC. Then you look at the east, Georgia Tech is the best fit in that area because of the traditions with the SEC, then there are several others who look good on paper but there are only 2 teams that I would say add and that would be Va Tech and UVA, the reasoning is you get a leg up in recruiting in the mid northeast and the D.C. Market would be a great addition. Florida will never let the U or FSU come because of recruiting, Clemson would be ok but really don’t offer much, yes you could argue duke and NC but neither are a good fit with the SEC unless you start talking basketball and then by adding those 2 along with Kansas you have the top 4 schools in the country for basketball but this while expansion is about football so I suggest you get 2 great schools like Va Tech and Kansas one for football and one for basketbal then add GT for the rivalry purposes and more TV exposure and lastly TCU an up and coming team that would only get stronger coming to the SEC, it’s pretty simple logic but will it happen, who knows? All I do know is Mike Slive needs to think of something if he let’s Texas and Texas A&M slip through his fingers.
Gary
June 10th, 2010
4:31 pm
Sheila please put down whatever it is you are smoking. Georgia Tech cannot draw in their own backyard much less anywhere else. How many showed up to watch the ACC Championship and the Orange Bowl last year? Answer – not very many. And outside of Miami, Va Tech, and FSU……no one in the ACC is anywhere near the big draw that the SEC schools are. Heck, Ole Miss, Arkansas, and Kentucky can outdraw the other teams in the ACC anyday of the week.
And for Tech fans to call Georgia irrelevant outside of the state is laughable. Tech is not even relevant in their own state while Georgia draws large crowds wherever they go and take a huge contingent of fans to travel with them. The Florida-Georgia game is one of the biggest – if not the biggest – college football game of the season. So big that CBS has the game scheduled with time and all years in advance. What game can Tech pencil in each year as a national TV game?
T3
June 10th, 2010
4:32 pm
Attention SEC fans, any feedback on this question:
Any chance the SEC could vote to kick Vandy out
and leave the SEC with 1, 3, or perhaps 5 slots to fill?
Really. Vandy does not have an AD nor even a Athletic Department.
Any feedback on that potential?
NOTACOUGAR
June 10th, 2010
4:32 pm
the best reason UT would not want to send it’s women’s fastpitch team to Pullman is that WSU does not field a women’s fastpitch team. But if they still want to go to Pullman, maybe they can play the track and field team.
IL Jacket
June 10th, 2010
4:34 pm
Gt4ever, I love your enthusiasm and commitment. For a variety of reasons, however, including research capabilities, academic standing, undergraduate profiles and strength of Olympic sports, the ACC is a
much better fit than today’s SEC. I can appreciate the historical nostalgia, but thinking about the future of the Institute, we are in a much better place.
chazzo
June 10th, 2010
4:35 pm
Sheila,
You have no idea what you are talking about. First, what you have to understand is there is little interest in individual teams out side of anyone’s state. Unless the game is historic, a rivalry, or promises to be a good match up, no one outside the state base and alumni is tuning in. Bama is always of national interest, being one of the historic football programs in the nation along with ND, Nebraska, Texas, Penn State, Oklahoma, Southern Cal, and others. I gaurantee that people all over the southeast watch the Dawgs play every year simply because every team is a rivalry. What historic game or rivalry does Tech play other than the Georgia game? The FSU game might be a good one. Okay 2.
Gary
June 10th, 2010
4:36 pm
T3 – the SEC is not going to kick Vandy or anyone out of the league. The SEC schools love Vandy and the academic prestige they bring to the conference. It’s easy to crap on them because of their lack of football success, but Vandy is competitive with other athletic programs.
Tide Rising
June 10th, 2010
4:40 pm
The simplest and most likely scenario which I’ve been preaching for months is that the 4 big 12 schools like Texas, Texas A&M OU, Ok State, Tam move to the sec west and Alabama and AU moving to the east to form a 16 team conference and keep most of the traditional rivalries in place and even restore several like AU-Fla. The big player in everything is Texas. It all comes down to Deloss Dodds and what Texas will do.
No One Knows You're a Dawg
June 10th, 2010
4:43 pm
Kansas City tv reporting UT and TAMU to Big 10, OU to SEC (ht Hotlanta):
“KANSAS CITY, Mo. — High level sources in multiple conferences have told KCTV5 that Texas and Texas A&M are looking to move to the Big Ten Conference and have petitioned for membership, while the University of Oklahoma is planning on petitioning the Southeastern Conference to become a member of its conference.
KCTV5’s sources said that Texas and Texas A&M do not have to include Texas Tech or Baylor in their plans. Sources told KCTV5 that there have already been discussions about the two schools entering the Big Ten and that the agreement could be made as soon as Thursday.
Oklahoma is currently working on petitioning to enter the SEC, but must find another university to enter the league with them, sources said. TMZ Sports has reported that Oklahoma State is likely to accept a bid to move to the Pac-10. Earlier Thursday, Colorado accepted an invitation to join the Pac-10.”
http://www.kctv5.com/sports/23860558/detail.html
fbfan
June 10th, 2010
4:43 pm
DID Y’ALL NOT READ MY LAST POST?
http://www.kctv5.com/sports/23860558/detail.html
If that report is true, who would you want along with Oklahoma to the SEC? Missouri would seem like a great TV eyeballs choice, or should it be a team from the East?
IL Jacket
June 10th, 2010
4:45 pm
Silly Silly, I share your hope that the B10 comes calling. That would be a tough decision and dependent on the vision put forth by the B10. In any event, choice is good.
Dave In Tampa
June 10th, 2010
4:45 pm
Add FSU and Oklahoma and be done with it!
Jeff
June 10th, 2010
4:48 pm
Shouldn’t they consider adding Rice along with A&M, as sort of a Vandy/Tennessee deal? I know academics don’t play a huge role unfortunately, but the SEC will just be worse off in that manner by adding your OUs, OSUs, and A&Ms, without an academic balance for Vandy/another punching bag.
Neki Ecko
June 10th, 2010
4:50 pm
But OK State hasnt come out and say they will be joining the PAC-10, so they might be the dance partner with Okla.
fbfan
June 10th, 2010
4:56 pm
The SEC doesn’t want T.Boone’s plaything to be OU’s dance partner. OU probably doesn’t want that either.
Keith
June 10th, 2010
4:58 pm
I am not a fan of the Big 12 South going to the PAC-10, there is not any history with that, besides the Rose Bowl appearances by Texas (SWC days) against USC. I hope the SEC does not let a chance go by to build on their history, since the SEC and old SWC have a long history, Arkansas, Oklahoma and Texas schools go way back (SWC days). I think the SEC could add the following schools and become the Super Conference, but I have not heard any talk about it. The SEC could with very little work be setup as shown below.
The SEC should look at the below expansion. Arkansas, Oklahoma and the Texas schools all have a history from the SWC days, before Arkansas moved to the SEC. The SEC is a better matchup, more history, closer schools on the Gulf Coast basically. The SEC would miss a great opportunity if they let the PAC-10 get these schools. But, there does not seem to be any SEC interest, so I think they will be PAC-10 bound, this week when Nebraska bolts to the Big-10. I am in Texas, and the fit below would work really well. I think the SEC is missing a great expansion opportunity to enter very large TV markets if they let this bypass them.
East
Alabama
Auburn
Florida
Georgia
Kentucky
South Carolina
Tennessee
Vanderbilt
Mississippi
Mississippi St.
West
Arkansas
LSU
Oklahoma
Oklahoma St.
Texas
Texas A&M
Texas Tech
Baylor
The U
June 10th, 2010
4:59 pm
It feels great to be in the presence of gentlemen that are so informed. The Thug U comments are so witty and fitting since Miami has a 100% graduation rate and only 2 arrests in about the last 4 years. UGA has had maybe 20 arrests in the last 4 years. Your beloved, holy coach, Mark Richt, was a QB for Miami. If I’m not mistaken, he was suspend for a few games while at Miami during the so-called “thug” years. Knowing this, I don’t think Mark Richt is a thug or UGA is a “thug” program.
On the subject of conference expansion, I don’t think the SEC should or needs to expand. The SEC has a conference championship game and 6 top-tier teams (LSU, Auburn, BAMA, UT, UF, UGA) The PAC-16 will only have 4 top-tier teams (USC, Oregon, Texas, Oklahoma) The Big Ten (Eleven) plus Nebraska could be comparable to the SEC though.
Gen Neyland
June 10th, 2010
4:59 pm
TB : No need to fiddle while college football is burning. Summer-time down-time is starting to look interesting…Nebraska to Big 10. This will be good for the Big 10 $$$ and for Nebraska $$$. Will Texas take a right or left onto I-20..?
Sanctions at USC West. The timetable in question is possibly this : Kiffin was at USC W from apx 2000-2006. Reggie Bush was at USC W from apx 2003-2005. Just what did Kiffin know and what part did he have in the big scheme of things is what I would like to know…
UGA SEC OWNS
June 10th, 2010
5:00 pm
it cracks me up that people like…ugawho… are trying to make gt sound so great like they deserve to be in the sec cuz they are so good, guess what we dont want you here nor do you deserve to be in the sec. stay in the acc. cuz we want teams that can handle tough schedules not , and stadiums that hold more than 50k, even upgrading to 75k wouldnt help. o and remind me who won the uga gt game this past outting…? ps retard, you are not rivals with any other sec schools besides uga. we only care what gt has done within the past 20 yrs, thats what matters now, and guess what thats nothing.
Dale
June 10th, 2010
5:03 pm
Texas would be travelling 2100 miles to play UW in Seattle, they’d travel maximum 1100 miles to play in Columbia SC
Mike
June 10th, 2010
5:04 pm
Well if the report is true and OU comes to the SEC and needs a Dance partner and OK ST has agreed to go to the Pac10 the only other logical choice would be Kansas! Then go to the east and get Va Tech and GT! Makes sense, strenghens the conference in baseball, basketball, and football! If Mike Slive could land these 4 he would be a moron not to! I mean think about how many national titles you get from those 4 schools! Why exactly would we need UT or A&M?? No reason at all!!
GT GRAD
June 10th, 2010
5:07 pm
As a GT fan………I do not want GT to move to the SEC. Primarily because of the obnoxious SEC fans; however, I understand the draw given the history and amount of success GT had when we were a member of the SEC. Also, GT would be very competitive in the SEC………just look at the W-L record GT has against the various SEC teams over the past 20+ years. Football: I might be mistaken, but I think UGA & LSU over the past 10 years are the only two SEC teams which have winning records against GT. The GT basketball, baseball, tennis, golf, etc. programs would compete for the SEC title almost every year!!
I also think conferences larger than 12 teams are not good for the NCAA. I hope the Big10 & PAC10 both expand to 12 teams and the Big12 simply replaces the teams that leave to remain at 12 teams. It would be great if the Big East ended up with only 12 teams as a result of these changes, but what conference really wants ANY of the teams from the Big East??
The ACC is very competitive (top-to-bottom) and the future is VERY bright in Football, Basketball & Baseball! I hope the ACC remains unchanged.