If USC, Bush cheated, should they lose BCS title, Heisman?

  The 125-year NCAA investigation (okay, that’s a SLIGHT exaggeration) into the University of Southern California football program and star running back Reggie Bush is expected to mercifully come to an end soon. There were rumblings that the NCAA’s Committee on Infractions would release its report last week but it didn’t. The investigation has been going on since 2006 so what’s a few more days? USC went before the Infractions Committee in February. In the old days they used to come up with a decision about six weeks after the hearing. Not any more.  Hey, it’s complicated and this is one of the most complicated cases ever.

This all happened a long time ago so let’s recap: Bush, the 2005 Heisman Trophy winner, allegedly received $300,000 in cash and other benefits from a two “gentlemen” (Lloyd Lake, Michael Michaels) who wanted to be Bush’s agent. But Bush stiffed those guys and went with another agency. They sued. NCAA investigators hoped that Bush would be put on the witness stand or, at the very least, have to sit for a deposition. Lying to NCAA investigators has no consequences unless you’re a current college player (ask Dez Bryant). But lying under oath gets you fitted for a striped suit and tin cup. It came as no surprise when Bush settled the case out of court rather than be compelled to tell the truth about his relationship with the two gentlemen in question.

I don’t have to tell you that a lot of people are watching this case and are handicapping the outcome. Opinions differ.  Former USC coach Pete Carroll, who got out of town (Seattle Seahawks) in January just ahead of the NCAA posse, said last week that he would be surprised if tough sanctions came down.

But elsewhere in the college football universe, this is seen as a big case test on whether or not the NCAA has the stomach to take down a high-profile football program that is not named Alabama.

If only half of what has been reported about Bush is true and USC skates on this one, there will be a nuclear eruption in Tuscaloosa, Ala. The Crimson Tide program was hammered for rules violations in 2002 and the penalties came with a considerable amount of finger wagging from the NCAA. Who could forget infractions committee chairman Tom Yeager saying that the committee considered giving Alabama the death penalty? He said that Alabama was “absolutely staring down the barrel of a gun (death penalty)” but the committee settled on a two-year bowl ban and the loss of 21 scholarships over three years.

Will the NCAA have the same righteous indignation for misbehavior and lack of institutional control, if proven, that takes place on the West Coast?

It is going to get pretty nasty if USC just gets a slap on the wrist.

Here are two big questions to keep in mind as we await the USC verdict:

No. 1: The qualifications for winning the Heisman Trophy clearly state that the recipient must be NCAA eligible. What if the NCAA proves after the fact that Bush was NOT eligible when he competed and won the Heisman in 2005? Many Heisman winners have had brushes with the law after winning the award but none has ever been stripped of the honor. On its website it says that the “Heisman Trophy Trust ensures the continuation and the integrity of this award.” But would the Heisman Trust want to open this can of worms? My friend Tom Shatel of the Omaha World-Herald suggests that if Bush cheated his Heisman Trophy should just be “vacated” or just stricken from the record books like it never happened.

Here is what I would do. If it is proven that Mr. Bush was ineligible in 2005, rather than set the precedent of vacating the award for that year, I would simply send Mr. Bush a letter telling him he is no longer welcome at any function honoring past Heisman Trophy winners. You can keep the hardware, Reggie, but you are out of the club.  Of course now that Mr. Bush has been paid handsomely by the NFL I’m sure he feels the ends justify the means. In short, shame is probably no longer part of his makeup.

No. 2: Even if the NCAA puts USC on double-secret probation and takes away a bunch of scholarships, that body cannot strip USC of its 2004 BCS national championship. That’s because the NCAA doesn’t award national championships in Division I-A football. And what the NCAA does not giveth, it cannot taketh away.

The BCS does not have an enforcement arm and really doesn’t want to get into the enforcement business. But BCS officials have told me that they would have to consider it if the NCAA proved beyond a shadow of a doubt that USC cheated.

So I’ll put it to you. If the NCAA Committee on Infractions gets the goods on USC—and I’m talking about lock-solid proof– should the BCS take away the 2004 national championship and should Reggie Bush be stripped or otherwise publicly separated from 2005 his Heisman Trophy?

And what happens if, after four years of investigating, the NCAA comes up with nothing?

 

JACK HAIRSTON, RIP: We lost Jack Hairston over the weekend. Jack wrote for the AJC early in his career but was best known as longtime sports columnist for the Gainesville (Fla.) Sun.  He was 81 years old. Jack was a member of the Football Writers Association Hall of Fame and is survived by his wife, Marilyn, and two daughters.  Jack was a good man and helped me early in my career. Please keep his family in your prayers.

 

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393 comments Add your comment

Hoopie

May 17th, 2010
3:38 pm

gdawginkalamazoo

May 17th, 2010
3:40 pm

Tide Rising, “congressional scrutiny” LMAO. Clowns scrutinizing clowns. Maybe a squirting flower or hand buzzer might straighten out the NCAA.

TTRout

May 17th, 2010
3:40 pm

If this was an SEC team, they’d be under the “jail” by now. It’s absolutely atrocious this has dragged on so long – and that a deserving school lost a shot a National Title in 2004 because of cheaters.

5IML

May 17th, 2010
3:45 pm

You guys just don’t/can’t get it. Auburn did not play for the BCS championship in 2004 because no one (outside east Alabama) wants to watch them play. If USC was ineligible back then, some other team would have leapfrogged Auburn.

gdawginkalamazoo

May 17th, 2010
3:46 pm

Tide Rising, Fulmer brought Krispy Kreme to his deposition for the NCAA guys. You can’t beat that.

twobales

May 17th, 2010
3:48 pm

Hey KR, What do you mean you can’t retroactively award the runner-ups? They do it all the in Olympics. When they take a win away from a team for cheating, they take a L from the opposing team and give them a W. Better late and have justice then never. War Eagle!

gdawginkalamazoo

May 17th, 2010
3:53 pm

I saw the blurb where Kiffin is making 4 mil a year at USC. That’s slightly less than what Reggie Bush brought home.

BAMA STAN

May 17th, 2010
4:01 pm

13 NATIONAL TITLES – 22 SEC TITLES!!!

First – let’s all keep Jack Hairston’s family in our thoughts and prayers! Losing a family memeber – regardless of age or circumstance can be a tough thing.

Now – regarding this USC situation:
– It is unfair to compare the “SINS” of USC to ALABAMA – because they are not the same crime – and who knows how many – if any – USC coaches or officials knew what was going on.
– In ALABAMA’S CASE – let’s be REAL honest here – we were ARROGANT and very defiant to the NCAA. We had issues in the GENE STALLINGS era – AND did not learn our lesson. The next era MIKE DUBOSE – were much worse than Stallings. Paying off HS coaches, lying about it, affairs in the office, and other recruiting violations.

ALABAMA deserved every penalty that we received. Wholesale changes in personnel and thought process had to be made.

I am not bitter about the NCAA and their actions against ALABAMA – I am BITTER at the folks we entrusted the care of ALABAMA football. WE DID THE CRIME – we needed to be spanked – and spanked hard.

AS for USC – all I ask for is that the NCAA does NOT consider the school – but the proven violations – and be consistent with whatever punishment is handed down. Consistency!!!!!

ROLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL TIDE!!!

Forrest Gump is the most famous Bama grad

May 17th, 2010
4:02 pm

“If USC was ineligible back then, some other team would have leapfrogged Auburn.”

Like who? Utah was the only other undefeated team and they didn’t play one ranked team their entire season. No one wants to watch Auburn? Really? Cause ESPN put 5 Auburn games on prime time, CBS put them on three times. Obviously SOMEONE wanted to watch them.

Fact: Auburn played and beat more ranked teams than ANY OTHER SCHOOL in 2004. Auburn set an ALL TIME NFL recruiting record.

Just to add insult to injury, Bama’s BCS national title game was less watched than LSU’s 11-2 BCS national title game.

OH WELL!!!!!!!

KR

May 17th, 2010
4:02 pm

twobales: I meant it would be pointless, particularly in the case of the BCS Championship Game.

Do you take the BCS title from USC and give it to Oklahoma? The team that many people said (and still say) didn’t belong in the game in the first place?

5IML: if you really think some other team would have leapfrogged Auburn in that scenario, you obviously know nothing about any football other than Alabama and should probably stop posting to save yourself embarrassment.

Forrest Gump is the most famous Bama grad

May 17th, 2010
4:04 pm

“we needed to be spanked – and spanked hard.”

Bama fans are freaks.

Forrest Gump is the most famous Bama grad

May 17th, 2010
4:05 pm

KR

Oklahomo played ONE ranked team in 2004. ESPN and CNNSI were all screaming that Auburn was overlooked. Only 6 teams in the SEC have gone undefeated in 30 years. Auburn did it twice as well as Bama. Difference is Bama got to play and win their championships.

Forrest Gump is the most famous Bama grad

May 17th, 2010
4:06 pm

“if you really think some other team would have leapfrogged Auburn in that scenario, you obviously know nothing about any football other than Alabama and should probably stop posting to save yourself embarrassment.”

She sounds like a Clemson fan. There were only 3 undefeated teams left in 2004/05. Auburn, USC and Utah.

What team would have leapfrogged Auburn?

billy boy

May 17th, 2010
4:12 pm

BamaStan – do you not think that SABAN and Meyer are cheating??? Give me a break! At least you fess up to Alabama’s past – Tide Rising sounds as if his hair is still standing on his back – LOL!

5IML

May 17th, 2010
4:15 pm

As I stated earlier, (nationally) no one wants to see Auburn football play for a championship of any kind. Does anyone reminder the year that Ole Miss almost won the West? No one wanted them to play in the SECCG. It would have been a rating and image (rebel flags) disaster. Luckily, for everyone, they spit the bit. Back to my original point, no one wants to watch Auburn play.

5IML

May 17th, 2010
4:18 pm

Gator Bob

May 17th, 2010
4:20 pm

Bama Stan – good post – agree with you for the most part. The NCAA has to weigh each punishment based on the the situation. In Alabama’s situation – they were all ready slapped on the wrist due to issues under the Stallings regime – and yet Duboses regime got caught with major issues. I agree that Alabama got what it deserved – and has done the right things to earn back credibility and respect.

As for USC – if USC officials knew of this situation during the season – and did not report anything – then I would hope that the NCAA would strip the wins of that year – and not recognize a National Champion.

Auburn was the team that ulitmately got hosed out of this deal – maybe Auburn sues USC and Reggie Bush for damages – lost publicity from opportunity to play in the National Title game.

george

May 17th, 2010
4:27 pm

screw the nazis at the ncaa. who needs these creeps? bottom line: reggie bush did not hurt anyone. he knew he would pay back any monies he, or his parents would receive before his graduation date or his playing days were over. the nfl was his ticket to riches and fame. the days of abject poverty and humiliation would finally come to an end.

NO BIG DEAL!

Forrest Gump is the most famous Bama grad

May 17th, 2010
4:35 pm

“Compare and contrast 2004 to:”

Compare what? You only posted the ratings of 2010 championship.

“no one wants to see Auburn football play for a championship of any kind.”

You must be the most retarded person on this blog. Do you have the data to back up your asinine statement? NOPE!

“Does anyone reminder the year that Ole Miss almost won the West?”

Uh…..they were nowhere near winning the West.

“No one wanted them to play in the SECCG.”

Uh…..Ole Miss fans did, dumb a$$.

“Back to my original point, no one wants to watch Auburn play.”

Auburn fans do. If we go by your idiotic logic, no one outside of Tuscaloser would want to watch Bama play, no one outside of Athens would want to see UGAY play and no one outside of Gainesville would want to watch UF play.

Ma’am, you are one retarded person.

Atlanta Gator

May 17th, 2010
4:36 pm

Simple Answer: Yes.

The Trojans played an ineligible player, therefore all their games in which he played are forfeit. That’s the NCAA rule. Ask Alabama, ask FSU. Furthermore, a player can’t win the Heisman if you’re not eligible to play. Give it back.

Forrest Gump is the most famous Bama grad

May 17th, 2010
4:37 pm

“Auburn was the team that ulitmately got hosed out of this deal – maybe Auburn sues USC and Reggie Bush for damages – lost publicity from opportunity to play in the National Title game.”

GatorBob, remember one thing. Florida has never had an undefeated season. Yes Auburn got hosed but at least they can claim undefeated seasons.

13 to be exact.

gtgaytawhateva

May 17th, 2010
4:38 pm

Uga commits crime involving alcohol expired drivers licience, not spending of credit cards from deceased student body members(i.e. felonies), besides you will be leaving the peach state soon to go clean up oil slicks on your coastline, we’ll see ya!

Forrest Gump is the most famous Bama grad

May 17th, 2010
4:39 pm

5IML

As for your “rebel” remark, remember one thing. The saint Bear Bryant never wanted black people to play on his teams. It wasn’t until USC beat his teams a$$ did he even think about putting a black person on his team.

WAR DAMN EAGLE!

SEC fan

May 17th, 2010
4:41 pm

BAMA STAN -

Why is it that your posts are well thought-out yet you continue to (speaking about arrogance) use the bogus 13 titles in your post? You gain and lose credibilty at the same time. Be happy with the 8 you have. It’s more than the rest, it’s true and your elephant nose won’t continue to grow..

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/305944-alabama-claims-12-national-championships-reality-claims-otherwise

Forrest Gump is the most famous Bama grad

May 17th, 2010
4:44 pm

SEC fan

I laughed so hard after this last national championship game when ESPN announced that Bama had just won their 8th title. Bama fans were HOWLING!!!!!!! It was so great.

The really funny thing is that NO team has actually won a national championship because the NCAA doesn’t hand them out in football.

Alphare

May 17th, 2010
4:53 pm

Forrest,

I am not sure what you are trying to achieve here. BAMA played in the BCS Championship game, and they won the game. So they won the championship, what’s wrong with that?

All systems are flawed. Why is NCAA basketball plays a one-game elimination? not 4 of 7 like baseball? Why Baseball plays 4 out of 7 instead of 3 out of 5?

It’s what it is. You do your best in the system and win, you are the champ. There is no sense to argue some one’s achievement if one goes thru the system.

kgator79

May 17th, 2010
4:55 pm

Ever notice, fans of schools who cant win a national title always pull the “The NCAA doesnt recognize a football national champion” line? Guess you have to believe in something to feel better about what you root for.

Forrest Gump is the most famous Bama grad

May 17th, 2010
4:57 pm

“Ever notice, fans of schools who cant win a national title always pull the “The NCAA doesnt recognize a football national champion” line?”

Uh, Auburn has a championship, moron. By the way, Tebow and Urban never beat Auburn. Oh well.

Tide Rising

May 17th, 2010
4:59 pm

gdawginkalamazoo,

You are correct sir! What the hell was I thinking about congressional scrutiny of the ncaa? One set of clowns looking after another set of clowns would be a very apt description as you say.

billy boy, That hair is indeed still bristling on my back.

forrest gump most famous grad,

Your statement that Bear never wanted blacks on his team is inaccurate. First of all you can’t see into the man’s soul so you have no business making that statment.

Secondly, the Alabama-USC game was one of if not possibly the most historic game ever played for the sheer fact that this one game opened the doors for integration of the black athlete in the deep south. Books have been written about this one game. How many other games can make that claim?

Bear was smarter than you think. He knew when he scheduled the game that we would probably take a beating. He knew that. And he knew that sooner or later integration was coming. He scheduled the game anyway despite opposition from alumni and administration pols.

In several books about Bear it is commonly known that he had no problem with integrating. He wasn’t the problem. The governor, the influential alumni, and white people in general in the south didn’t want integration.

To put off a delay in integration on bear is absurd. If you knew anything about Bear and his dirt poor background where his family was every bit as poor as many blacks than you would know that the man had some compassion for the plight of others like himself who came from very humble backgrounds, including blacks.

Forrest Gump is the most famous Bama grad

May 17th, 2010
5:00 pm

“I am not sure what you are trying to achieve here.”

Well, maybe if you read the topic at hand you’d understand why Auburn fans were livid in 2004/05. If Bama had legitimately went undefeated, won their division and the SEC but got left out you’d be pissed too. You’d also be pissed if you found out the team that won the BCS may have cheated etc…

Make sense?

“So they won the championship, what’s wrong with that?”

Didn’t say anything was wrong with that.

Forrest Gump is the most famous Bama grad

May 17th, 2010
5:03 pm

“Your statement that Bear never wanted blacks on his team is inaccurate. First of all you can’t see into the man’s soul so you have no business making that statment.”

No, it’s 100% true.

“Books have been written about this one game.”

That’s exactly where I got my facts.

“Bear was smarter than you think.”

I never said he was dumb.

“If you knew anything about Bear and his dirt poor background where his family was every bit as poor as many blacks than you would know that the man had some compassion for the plight of others like himself who came from very humble backgrounds, including blacks.”

Cry me a river, ma’am.

Forrest Gump is the most famous Bama grad

May 17th, 2010
5:04 pm

“How many other games can make that claim? ”

Remember the Titans…….

Alphare

May 17th, 2010
5:06 pm

I was pissed too when Auburn did not have the chance to play in the NC that year. I think there should be a rule that any undefeated SEC team be automatically in NC game.

kgator79

May 17th, 2010
5:10 pm

Yes Forrest…Im quite sure you are proud of that national title 53 years ago. Too bad you never saw it happen.

Forrest Gump is the most famous Bama grad

May 17th, 2010
5:14 pm

“Im quite sure you are proud of that national title 53 years ago.”

Before Spurrier got to UF, Florida was just another Vandy. Oh, and Florida has never had an undefeated season. Oh well, it sure was fun seeing Tebow cry last year. Boo hoo.

“Too bad you never saw it happen.”

Awe, poor baby. Fact is, most bama fans blogging on here have only seen one national championship. At least Auburn doesn’t claim fake national titles.

Guess our penises are bigger than Bama or Florida fans. HA HA

Tide Rising

May 17th, 2010
5:14 pm

SEC Fan,

I tend to stick with the generally recognized idea that Bama has 8 national titles, tied with ND for the most. The claim of 13 doesn’t bother me that much though and here is why.

The ncaa officially credits us with 16. Since 1950 which is what ESPN and a lot of folks go by this would be no. 8. That is the most common number and the number I adhere to.

The others come from retroactive titles in 1925,26, 34, and 41. If you research each of those years there is no question we were the best team in 3 of those 4 years and that we beat supposedly the other best team each of those years in the rose bowl. 1941 is a bogus title even though we claim it. We don’t deserve that year.

In 1966 we got screwed out of it as we finished unbeaten and Mich st and ND played to a 10-10 tie and yet remained 1 and 2 while we stayed at 3rd. They stayed home while we destroyed Neb in the orange bowl to further our claim. Several books were written about the screwing of the 1966 team which Bear regarded as his greatest ever.

In 1945 we finished 3rd and unbeaten but army and navy finished ahead of us despite a tie. They finished ahead in a vote that was done in honor of the services right after the end of ww 2.

!977 ND pole vaulted us from 5th place in beating no. 1 texas which had 9 turnovers in their bowl game. We were third and destroyed Ohio state in our bowl game. Any fair comparison shows we were better than ND which lost to Ole Miss that year, a team we beat by 3 or 4 tds. We also beat a top 5 team in Neb and a top 10 team in washington that year.

Bottom line is that it all washes out. The reality is that Bama is the winningest team of the last 100 years. ND is about 10 wins behind us for 2nd place. You gotta figure that if we are the winningest program over that time span then we logically probably have the most

Forrest Gump is the most famous Bama grad

May 17th, 2010
5:15 pm

“I think there should be a rule that any undefeated SEC team be automatically in NC game.”

Don’t tell that to Florida or LSU fans. Their teams are incapable of going undefeated.

Also, why do Florida players do so poorly in the NFL?

Forrest Gump is the most famous Bama grad

May 17th, 2010
5:17 pm

“The ncaa officially credits us with 16.”

That’s a flat out lie. The NCAA has never awarded any school with a national title.

“The reality is that Bama is the winningest team of the last 100 years.”

And Notre Dame and USC both have more championships than Bama. Notre Dame has more players in the NFL hall of fame.

How many Heisman’s does Bama have? Oh yeah, one………..

Forrest Gump is the most famous Bama grad

May 17th, 2010
5:18 pm

“You gotta figure that if we are the winningest program over that time span then we logically probably have the most”

Yeah even though USC and Notre Dame have more championships than Bama. Yep, logic fail on Bama.

Bama history

May 17th, 2010
5:19 pm

What do maggots and Bama fans have in common?

Both can live off a dead bear for years.

Bama history

May 17th, 2010
5:20 pm

Some person wrote something about Ole Miss and rebel flags.

Alabama fraternity’s Confederate battle flag display probed

National leaders of the Kappa Alpha fraternity are investigating their Jacksonville State University chapter over the report of a display of the Confederate battle flag.

Larry Wiese, executive director of Kappa Alpha, said such a display at the fraternity house would violate the fraternity’s bylaws.

Southern chapters formerly held “Old South” parties and parades in which fraternity brothers and their dates wear Confederate army uniforms and antebellum dresses.

The organization’s national leaders agreed in January to ban all members from wearing Confederate uniforms at KA events. That decision followed an incident last year at the University of Alabama, where a truckload of uniformed Kappa Alphas parked in front of the chapter house of a black sorority.

Tide Rising

May 17th, 2010
5:32 pm

Forrest Gump,

“Awe, poor baby. Fact is, most bama fans blogging on here have only seen one national championship. At least Auburn doesn’t claim fake national titles.

And did you actually write that AU has 13 undefeated seasons?
Guess our penises are bigger than Bama or Florida fans. HA HA”

Most Bama fans on here remmber the 92 national championship and I personally remember the 78 and 79 titles as a child.

On the NCAA website even though the NCAA doesn’t pick national champions it does have the listings of various poll champions and according to their site we have 16. Not a lie. Its right there on their site. Not saying I agree with the number either.

Secondly, I find it difficult to believe that an AU fan would read books about Bear Bryant. You say that several books are on record as Bear being against integrating blacks? I’m calling BS on that one.

I believe you yourself quoted earlier in a post that ESPN acknowledge Bama as having only 8 national titles. They also credit ND with 8 I believe and USC with 7. At least that’s what I’ve always seen. So how do one or both, especially USC, have more national titles?

As for Heismans who cares? Its an individual award that goes to one player and is largely nothing more than a popularity contest. How do you correlate individual awards like Heisman’s with team championships?

Forrest Gump is the most famous Bama grad

May 17th, 2010
5:37 pm

“And did you actually write that AU has 13 undefeated seasons?”

Yep.

“Most Bama fans on here remmber the 92 national championship and I personally remember the 78 and 79 titles as a child. ”

Are you most Bama fans? Nope.

“On the NCAA website even though the NCAA doesn’t pick national champions it does have the listings of various poll champions and according to their site we have 16.”

Such a contradictory line.

“Secondly, I find it difficult to believe that an AU fan would read books about Bear Bryant.”

I honestly don’t care what you find difficult.

“You say that several books are on record as Bear being against integrating blacks?”

Reread my comments.

“They also credit ND with 8 I believe and USC with 7.”

Wrong.

“As for Heismans who cares?’

LOL! Sure, and if Bama only had 1 NT you’d say the same thing. If Bama had 10 you gals would talk non-stop about how great Bama is.

“Its an individual award that goes to one player and is largely nothing more than a popularity contest.”

Huh, and here I was under the impression that it went to talent.

“How do you correlate individual awards like Heisman’s with team championships?”

Ask Herschel Walker, Reggie Bush, Matt Leinhert etc………

Forrest Gump is the most famous Bama grad

May 17th, 2010
5:40 pm

Tide Rising, just for you.

8 Auburn teams have been awarded some form of “National Champions” title, though Auburn officially claims only the 1957 AP one. The NCAA’s website states that “the NCAA does not conduct a national championship in Division I-A football and is not involved in the selection process”, but goes on to state that “a number of polling organizations provide a final ranking of Division I-A football teams at the end of each season”. The NCAA website lists four Auburn squads that have been named National Champions by at least one organization.[14] The following is the complete list of Auburn teams ranked No. 1 and some of the organizations that recognized them as National Champion:

1910 6–1 team Loren Maxwell
1913 undefeated 8–0 team Billingsley, James Howell, 1st-N-Goal
1914 undefeated 8–0–1 team James Howell
‘1957 undefeated 10–0 team Associated Press, Billingsley, Fleming, Football Research, Helms, James Howell, Massey Ratings, National Championship Foundation, Nutshell Sports, Poling, Sagarin, Sorensen, Williamson, David Wilson
1958 undefeated 9–0–1 team Montgomery Full Season Championship
1983 11–1 team ARGH, Billingsley, DKC, Eck, FACT, Fleming, Football Research, James Howell, Massey Ratings, New York Times, Nutshell Sports, Sorensen, Sparks Achievement, David Wilson, 1st-N-Goal
1993 undefeated 11–0 team Harry Frye, National Championship Foundation, Nutshell Sports, Sparks Achievement, David Wilson
2004 undefeated 13–0 team Darryl W. Perry, EFI, FansPoll, GBE, Golf Digest, Hank Trexler, M Cubed

Beast from the East

May 17th, 2010
5:41 pm

Gump,
Get over it. This blog is about USC and Reggie Bush but you’re trying to turn it into a personal crusade agaianst Bama, Baer Bryant, UF, Tim Tebow, Urban Meyer. Did I forget anyone? Go polish your War Chicken and give it a rest!

Beast from the East

May 17th, 2010
5:42 pm

Gump,
Can you tell us the dimensions of the cafeteria? You left that out of your last “novel”.

BAMA STAN

May 17th, 2010
5:43 pm

13 NATIONAL TITLES – 22 SEC TITLES!!!

Responding to Forrest Gump:
1. What team do you root for?
2. Regarding why Alabama officially claims 13 National Titles – http://blog.al.com/tidecorner/2010/03/why_alabama_can_claim_13_natio_1.html

The reality is – Alabama could acutally claim more National Titles – so could other schools as well.

ROLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL TIDE!!!!

Forrest Gump is the most famous Bama grad

May 17th, 2010
5:46 pm

“Get over it. This blog is about USC and Reggie Bush but you’re trying to turn it into a personal crusade agaianst Bama”

You are retarded, ma’am. This blog is about USC and cheating which therefore directly links with Auburn. If USC is found to have cheated then Auburn will have a national title.

Go sell stupid somewhere else.

“Can you tell us the dimensions of the cafeteria?”

No, but I can give you the dimensions of your mom’s vagina. It’s 8.5 feet wide.

Forrest Gump is the most famous Bama grad

May 17th, 2010
5:47 pm

“1. What team do you root for?”

If you still haven’t figured that one out…….

“The reality is – Alabama could acutally claim more National Titles – so could other schools as well. ”

Of course they can and they have………

Tide Rising

May 17th, 2010
5:50 pm

Forrest Gump,

You are hilarious. Turns out AU does indeed have 11 undefeated seasons with some ties in there but not 13 as you say. Let me help you out with some of those undeated seasons. Let’s see

1893 AU went 3-0-2ties Yep. I reckon that’s unbeaten.
1897 2-0-1tie Wow. You’re burning it up
1900 4-0 You now have a 4 game unbeaten season
1904 5-0 You guys are badazz!
1913 8-0 More respectable but not a 10 win unbeaten season yet.
1914 8-0-1 Still not an unbeaten 10 game season.
1932 9-0-1 Still waiting on a legit 10 game unbeaten season
1957 10-0 Finally a legit 10 game or more unbeaten season
1958 9-0-1 Back to less than a 10 game unbeaten season
1957 10-0 good job bro
1993 11-0 Too bad you were on probation
2004 13-0 Tough luck the trojans didn’t get the pleasure of pounding you for the 3rd straight year after raping you 23-0 the year before in Jordan-Hare and 28-14 the year before that.

That would be 3 unbeaten seasons of 10 wins or more inlcuding one on probation. Not impressed mam.