UGA’s Richt, LSU’s Miles, in completely different situations

I’ve done a lot of radio interviews this spring and invariably the host has asked me the same question: Going into the 2010 season whose seat is hotter– Mark Richt or Les Miles? Even my friend Paul Finebaum linked the two men together in his most recent column.

http://blog.al.com/press-register-sports/2010/05/finebaum_les_miles_mark_richt.html

First of all, I don’t understand the linkage, other than the fact that both men coach in the SEC , where they are expected to win every game, and that the top coaches in their respective divisions (Nick Saban, West; Urban Meyer, East) have won the last two national championships.

But there the similarity ends.

Les Miles took over a program that Nick Saban built and won a national championship in his third season (2007), when the players in Saban’s last class were seniors. In the past two seasons LSU is 8-8 in the SEC and fans on the Bayou wonder if Miles can win a title with his own players.

When it comes to Miles, there is this nagging sense that he and his staff are not maximizing the talent on this team. Actually, it’s more than a nagging sense.  When it comes to offense, LSU really hasn’t had much of a clue as to what it is doing the past two seasons. Quarterback Jordan Jefferson has not gotten one bit better since this time last year. A team that used to be known for blue collar football (LSU ran for over 200 yards a game in the national championship year but was 11th in the SEC last season), the Tigers are now look pretty soft on that side of the ball.

Let’s put it this way: LSU had better beat North Carolina on Sept. 4 at the Georgia Dome or there will be folks in that part of the world with Jon Gruden’s number on speed dial.

Richt took over at Georgia in 2001 and won a conference championship in 2002 with a team made up mostly of players he inherited from Jim Donnan (who still doesn’t get enough credit for what he did at Georgia to rebuild the talent base). But then he won another championship with his own players in 2005, and was as good as anybody in the country in 2007.

He’s won 90 games in nine years. He’s 50-22 in the SEC. In six of those years he has been 6-2 or better in the league. He has never been worse than 4-4 in the SEC.

Having said all that, has Georgia looked like a well-coached team the past two seasons? The answer is decidedly “No.” Here are two important numbers:

113: That was Georgia’s national ranking (out of 120 Division I-A schools) in penalties per game. Georgia had 105 penalties in 13 games. Only five schools in America (Troy, Oklahoma, Colorado, Texas Tech, Arizona State) had more penalties. By contrast, BCS champ Alabama had 69 penalties in 14 games. This has been a problem for two years and has not been fixed.

118: Georgia’s national ranking in turnover margin, which I think is the most important statistic in football. Georgia forced 12 turnovers last season (2 fumbles, 10 interceptions) but turned the ball over 28 times. That’s minus-16 in turnovers. Only one team in America, Miami of Ohio (minus-24) had a worse turnover margin. By contrast Alabama was plus 19 (31 takeaways, 12 turnovers) in 14 games. The hope at Georgia is that Todd Grantham’s new 3-4 defense will partly address this issue.

So I’m not saying that Richt and his staff don’t have work to do. They do. Georgia has done things the past two seasons that well-coached teams don’t do. And there is the fact that he is 1-4 against Meyer, who has won two national championships, and that the gap between Florida and the rest of the division seems to be growing. Some Georgia fans, and I hear from a lot of them, are worried that the program has lost momentum. I get that.

But Richt’s situation and that of Miles just aren’t comparable. If Miles goes 7-5 and 3-5 in the SEC there will be a concerted effort to nudge him back towards Michigan, his alma mater, where Rich Rodriguez faces a most uncertain future.

If Richt goes 7-5 it will certainly impact his quality of life in the offseason but it won’t jeopardize his job. He will feel pressure to make some more changes to his staff. But nobody in authority is going to say that he should relocate. In nine years Richt has put a lot of good will into the bank and that matters to the decision makers.

I could be totally wrong about this. What say you?

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477 comments Add your comment

First

May 12th, 2010
8:39 am

Zaaaaaaa Nachos

May 12th, 2010
8:40 am

Bleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!

I dont like you, Coach Richt!

RAMBLE ON!!!

May 12th, 2010
8:41 am

Tech Fan

May 12th, 2010
8:44 am

God I wish the Tech fan base cared enough about football to where a coach could be considered on the hot seat.

Roman

May 12th, 2010
8:45 am

Tony, I’d be careful who I call my “friend”. Finebumb is an idiot!

5IML

May 12th, 2010
8:46 am

You can’t compare UGA to BAMA or Richt to Saban UGA is good for what they do (contends for division almost every year, occasionally wins conference) and what they are (regionally known team with a big local following). Firing Richt would be a very big mistake.

Kitty Kelley

May 12th, 2010
8:46 am

Finebaum is a great writer and sports talk host.

KR

May 12th, 2010
8:49 am

In college football, it all boils down to “what have you done for me lately?” After the 2003 Bobby Lowder jet incident and Auburn’s 2004 season, there were people who said that Tommy Tuberville was untouchable. We all know how that turned out.

Richt wins a lot of games, but so far the winning the big game has eluded him. Try this: turn the clock back 10 years and ask Georgia fans if they would be happy with 90 wins in 9 seasons BUT only 2 SEC championships and no BCS championships. Do you think they would have bought into it?

There is no mistake that Richt has talent as a coach, but so far he has not shown that he can take UGA to the absolute top. I know that bothers a significant portion of the Bulldog faithful.

Roman

May 12th, 2010
8:53 am

Coach Richt’s biggest problem is that he doesn’t hire good assistants. Willie and Bobo should never have been put in those positions. And Finebumb is a joke to everyone outside of Alabama.

Charles from Reeltown

May 12th, 2010
8:54 am

I could give Les Miles a country boy ass whuppin…

Redneck

May 12th, 2010
8:56 am

I use words like whuppin…..

Paul Finebaum

May 12th, 2010
8:57 am

Tony, don’t misunderstand me. We here in Alabama *love* both Les Miles and Mark Richt and wish them both long-trm employment with their respecive universities and good health. It’s just that Gener Chizik who makes me nervous.

Football Fan

May 12th, 2010
8:57 am

Change a few words and this paragraph applies to both coaches doesn’t it ?

When it comes to Richt, there is this nagging sense that he and his staff are not maximizing the talent on this team. Actually, it’s more than a nagging sense. When it comes to defense, UGA really hasn’t had much of a clue as to what it is doing the past two seasons. (Insert name here) has not gotten one bit better since this time last year. A team that used to be known for blue collar defense, the Bulldogs now look pretty soft on that side of the ball.

itpdude

May 12th, 2010
8:57 am

Well, if we hear noise about Richt telling his players to purposely get penalties or how he didn’t worry about penalties at FSU, Richt is gone.

But if Richt is reigning his players in (as evidenced by dropping the QB) and bringing back discipline, he’ll stay.

Jim from Crestwood

May 12th, 2010
8:58 am

Paul, you dweebs in the Birmingham media always bring it back to Auburn. you just can’t let it rest. Now, what did I do with my meds?

TommyJack

May 12th, 2010
8:59 am

TB: I don’t get the Miles deal either. But I think you’re looking at Richt thru rose colored glasses. Way too much talent, year after year.

Spokesman for the SEC East

May 12th, 2010
9:00 am

First things first; Finebaum is an idiot who only says outrageous things to draw people to read him or listen to him on his radio show, unfortunately it works. Secondly the SEC East really hopes that Mark Richt is NEVER fired.

Tammy

May 12th, 2010
9:00 am

I dont cir just as long as all them mesicans stop takin our jobs.

SimpleDawg

May 12th, 2010
9:00 am

Les Miles is working on borrowed time…..his goofs and gaffs will be his Waterloo if the Tigers don’t have a big year. They can lose to Florida and Alabama, but no one else, and have Les still retain his job.

At times Les looks like he’s a stranger in a strange land…..

Richt needs to have a 9-2 regular season, 8-3 at worst. With a freshman QB, his leash will be much longer, but the Dawgs must play better defense….and commit much fewer turnovers and penalties.

More debacles like Tennysee last year, and Alabammer 2 years ago will not be tolerated. The Dawgs may not win every game, but they damn sure better be competitive in every game.

Charles

May 12th, 2010
9:01 am

Finebaum has made it his personal mission to put Mark Richt on the hotseat. He began indicating that Richt was not doing a good job last summer and subsequently took heat from Georgia fans. This irked him because he’s a smug know-it-all, and when Georgia had a down year, he used this is evidence that he was right all along. Essentially, he’s on a witchhunt b/c it’s gotten personal for him with the Dawgnation after all that junk last summer.

Additionally, Finebaum is an unabashed Bama homer, even if he is a UT grad. He’s playing to his audience, and the entire Tide fanbase knows how pivotal it is that UGA continues to slide. This state is a goldmine for prospects, and Saban and Smart are hoping to really rack up in this recruiting class. Thankfully, that’s not going to happen unless Georgia has another poor season. Bama will likely snag Dickson, but that will be the only key Georgia target they’ll get. But rest assured; they want them all, and Finebaum has his marching orders on how to do his part to propogate the image that Georgia is floundering.

In the end, Georgia just needs to win. A good season in ‘10-11 and Finebaum will go silent and UGA will pull in a recruiting class for the ages…this is the best in-state talent crop since ‘98. Big year forthcoming.

MississippiDawg

May 12th, 2010
9:02 am

Well said Tony – CMR is the best thing to happen to UGA since Herschel…he will right this ship…7-5 won’t happen anyway…have you seen our schedule…RUN the BALL Bobo and everyone will have job security,,,

chiefdawg

May 12th, 2010
9:02 am

Mark Richt must find a way to beat UF.All of it is not his fault. A game of this magnitude should be played home and home. That being said he must play with the cards he has been dealt. He also must win the games he is suppose to win, such as the KY game last year. As a big UGA fan my hope is that things will be turned around soon, but I am afraid UGA is headed for a Fulmer like experience.

Lowcountry Bulldawg

May 12th, 2010
9:02 am

Miles is clearly on the hot seat. The complete debacle at the end of the game against Ole Miss was a complete embarassment for that team. Richt does have work to do, but if I were a Tiger fan, that memory of how the staff handled the clock would still leave a bad taste in my mouth.

Pulpwood

May 12th, 2010
9:03 am

Les Miles is a complete buffoon. I’ve said this since day one. He won’t be at LSU in 3 years, maybe less.

Paul Finebaum

May 12th, 2010
9:04 am

Why does everyone blame me for the opinions of my callers? I am innocent I tell ya.

Paul Finebaum

May 12th, 2010
9:04 am

Hey Spokesman for the SEC East. Please let Mick Hubert know I’m waiting for him outside and I’ll beat the “oh my” out of him.

Tormentor

May 12th, 2010
9:04 am

Chief dawg are you really going to go to the home and home? It didnt work out too well in 94 and 95 did it? That being said Mark is a gracious loser and we hope he stays.

Mrs. Miles

May 12th, 2010
9:05 am

I just wish he would take that hat off when he comes to bed at night.

Tormentor

May 12th, 2010
9:05 am

Finebaum Mick Hubert has a prettier head of hair than you do.

DawgHouse

May 12th, 2010
9:05 am

If Richt goes 7-5 in a year that has UT rebuilding; UF having to replace their QB and basically entire Defense; We do not play either LSU or Bama from the West….then he should be ran not only out of the state but out of the nation. We return the O line intact and Richt has complained the past two subpar years that O line depth hurt the team. Not this year unless we have 3 or more linemen go down. We return two great tailbacks to run the ball. We have a great D coordinator, now. So there are no excuses!!! We go 7-5 with our talent he should be fired, fired, fired.

Lane Kiffin

May 12th, 2010
9:06 am

Richt and THUGA are about to go through hell this coming season and it’s going to be very, very ugly in Athens. But the administration will keep Richt one year too long and by 2011 the program will resemble exactly what happened to auburn a couple of years ago, with a major rebuilding project awaiting the next coach. Les the Mess is nothing more than the village idiot and everyone who really knows and understands college football saw that the first game he ever coached at LSU. lsu will have another subpar season and Miles may even be terminated before season’s end.

Ormewood

May 12th, 2010
9:06 am

Tony has to write about something. These are the only two coaches in the SECat this moment who are on somewhat shaky ground. Chizik and Mullen are year two of their tenures. Dooley and Phillips are just starting out. I think the one to watch is Nutt. Things could go south in a hurry the next year or two in Oxford, especially if Auburn, MSU, and Ark keep getting better. Some team or teams slide when others are ascending.

I’d say in the ACC, the coach on the hottest seat is Freidgen., followed very closely by Shannon.

Tormentor

May 12th, 2010
9:07 am

Well call the Real Estate Agent Dawghouse because he will go 6-6, and Evans will bring in Chris Peterson from Boise St.

Paul Finebaums

May 12th, 2010
9:07 am

In this battle of duelling Finebaums, I am the authentic Finebaum. Pay no attention to that other Finebaum behind the curtain.

Charlie Bama

May 12th, 2010
9:07 am

I think this will be a ‘make or break’ season for both coaches, Tony. No doubt LSU has underperformed given the high school talent they hired –uh, I mean, recruited– over the past few years. Miles doesn’t appear to be a good game day coach or a thoughtful craftsman at offense. CMR, I think, is now officially ‘awake’ and is ready to get the most out of his players–it seems his expectations declined over the past two season, not sure why. Maybe Paul Johnson’s success? More than likely, the same burn-out that most SEC coaches face after about 8 or 9 slap-happy years (ask Pumpkin Fulmer or Deputy Dog Tuberville–they understand how that works). Either way, good luck to both team and both coaches. Florida and Bama need the loyal opposition to be good so the annual victories over each look even better. Gators, see you in the Dome in December!

Greens23

May 12th, 2010
9:07 am

I agree that Richt and Miles are in two completely different situations. As a Gator fan, it looks to me that Richt and his coaches arent getting the most out of his players. The penalties have been killing his team, and to me that is a coaching issue. Richt does need to figure out a way to beat FL on a consistent basis but where the game is played has nothing to do with it. No one was complaining from UGA when you owned the series. Richt has done a lot of good at UGA but I think he should be competing nationally on a regular basis. No reason GA shouldnt be a top 10 team year in and out…

Paul Finebaum

May 12th, 2010
9:08 am

Termigator, I mean Tormentor, I mean Reptiles Rule, I mean GaGator, Alabama is now your big brother. Get used to it.

Gville dawg

May 12th, 2010
9:08 am

You are spot on Mr. Tony

Flowery Branch

May 12th, 2010
9:08 am

Mark Richt has been head coach for 9 years and has won 90 games, is 8 put of 9 against our arch rival, has won 2 SEC titles and is 7-2 in bowl games. Richt has one of the best records in college football.

One major reason for underachievement over the past few seasons was a poor defensive coaching staff. Richt was slow to address the problem but he finally did. Hopefully Richt will be less patient with inadequate assistants next time. He probably learned a lot from the experience.

Richt is an excellent head coach and his best years are ahead of him. Vince Dooley won his only national championship in his 17th year as head coach. It took Bear Bryant over a decade of head coaching to win one. The same goes for Bobby Bowden and Joe Paterno. Give Richt time and we will win the national title or maybe several. He has had UGA in the hunt as a major contender, eventually quality teams, players luck and consistency will win it.

Just think Urban Meyer and Steve Spurrier while winning 3 national titles between them for Florida never went undefeated. Of course they were good but they were also lucky. Had one more team gone undefeated in those years and the Gators would have not played in the big game.

Saban’s Alabama did go undefeated but think how rare that is in the SEC. And even that wasn’t good enough for Auburn, which has gone undefeated twice in the last 17 years but still did not get a chance to play for the national title.

Obviously Richt has been very unhappy with the results of the last 2 seasons and I expect Richt to keep fine tuning the UGA program until we get the big payoff – a national championship!!!

Ron D

May 12th, 2010
9:08 am

5IML

May 12th, 2010
9:08 am

Charles,

Finebaum is a front runner. He is a BAMA homer right now because BAMA is winning right now. If Auburn got the upperhand on BAMA, he would become an Auburn homer as he was when Shula was BAMA’s coach.

BAMA doesn’t need UGA to be down to be successful. On the other hand, UGA, as evidenced by Richt’s early success, needs other programs to be down to be successful. Richt won his SEC titles against the Shulas and Zooks, not against the Sabans and Meyers.

Tormentor

May 12th, 2010
9:09 am

The penalties are a direct result from Richts 2007 episode of Dancing with the Stars in the Jax endzone.

Miles

May 12th, 2010
9:09 am

LSU needs a QB…Georgia will place third in the SEC East…neither team can beat Alabama or Florida…

Tormentor

May 12th, 2010
9:09 am

Spoken by a true trailer park bama fan.

Bayou Philosopher

May 12th, 2010
9:10 am

Tony, you’ve never been much of friend of the LSU football program (voted USC no. 1 in 2003; now your fantasy football statement the UGA was “as good as anyone [ie. LSU] in 2007″. But you have presented a thoughtful analysis of an interesting pair of coaches who deserve comparison. My feeling is that if Richt goes 7-5 he will not survive either– especially if one of those loses is to Georgia Tech. For all the posturing at UGA about the Dawgs’ national / SEC goals —beatin’ the Jackets is Obsession No. One. –Ask the aforementioned Jim Donnan. I agree completely that 7-5 will mean “so long” for Les Miles, fair or not. But Miles did beat Richt head to head in Athens last season with equally mediocre teams. That should say something.

NoGaGator

May 12th, 2010
9:11 am

Tony -

Slimebaum is your friend? That pencil-necked geek has his head surgically implanted in Saban’s arse.

They say you can’t pick your relatives but you can pick your friends.

Bad choice Tony.

Bama Fan

May 12th, 2010
9:11 am

Stop living in the past Tormentor. Realize your fate.

Paul Finebaum

May 12th, 2010
9:12 am

Nick Saban’s backside is very warm to the touch by the way. My lips feel comfortable there on cold autumn days.

Tormentor

May 12th, 2010
9:12 am

Bama congrats on your one year streak, when Saban leaves it will be back to the Shula years.

Spokesman for the SEC East

May 12th, 2010
9:13 am

Now, now Bama fans, hold your anger until the SECCG.

Paul Finebaum

May 12th, 2010
9:13 am

I rub my head with gator grease.

Tormentor

May 12th, 2010
9:15 am

Bama Fan, 26-2 in the last 2 years is quite ok.

Bama Fan

May 12th, 2010
9:15 am

Will you go back to the Zook days when Meyer strokes out after another beat down in the SEC Championship game?

Reality Check

May 12th, 2010
9:15 am

Florida can keep those highly talented , top recruits playing by lowering eligibility standards such as allowing them to flunk 5 drug tests before suspending them. And Alabama has several convicted felons that played for them under Saban. The same goes for Tennessee. At Georgia we and our state media make a huge deal out of misdemeanors that are generally ignored at Alabama, Florida, Florida State, Miami, Tennessee and LSU.

Plus we know that Alabama is willing to risk NCAA punishment in order to put together a big winning team. Alabama has been placed on two MAJOT probations by the NCAA in the last decade even having to forfeit 21 victories. Heck, even Georgia Tech was placed on NCAA probation for changing 11 starting football players grades in order to keep them eligible to play. So evidently we play several teams like Alabama and GA Tech willing to cheat to win!

Tweeb

May 12th, 2010
9:16 am

Luke!! I’m Your FATHER, Luke! Join me on the Dark Side.

Or, sorry wrong blog . . .

Greens23

May 12th, 2010
9:16 am

Flowery Branch, we can look at numbers more than one way….Meyer has been in the SEC 5 years and has won 57 games…Richt’s best 5 years only add up to 55 wins. Richt’s teams fail to show up when they need to…your 2007 season, arguably the best in many years at UGA you lose to Tenn and SC. Last year, Tennessee took you to the woodshed. Dont blame that on assistants. The coach should have fired Willie immediately…

Charles from Reeltown

May 12th, 2010
9:16 am

I am actually a graduate student in Anthropology at Harvard doing undercover research in Reeltown. Scarily, I am so convincing as Charles that I actually began sleeping with my own cousin.

Dan

May 12th, 2010
9:16 am

Way to suck up to Saban again, Tony. I’m sure he is starting to admire how you kiss his ring as much as “your friend” Finebaum does. Amazing how “those seniors Saban recruited” were able to win a National Title in 2007 at LSU with no coaching. Incredible just how Saban’s magic touch led them to a championship.

So I guess Saban won the SEC title n 2001 because of the seniors Gerry DiNardo left behind.

Tony the Tiger

May 12th, 2010
9:16 am

Here is the deal on Les. I truly believe there are 2 Les Miles. The Les Miles of 2006-2007 – go for it, wide open offense, calculated risk taker. Then you have the Les Miles of 2008-2009 – hesitant, play not to lose, conservative. LSU fans loved the attitude and coaching style of 06-07

After the national championship, I believe he realized he had to maintain that level of success. He had always been an ace recruiter, but he has let the fear of losing creep into his coaching. This resulted in poor game day coaching decisions among other things. I truly do not think Les is a bad coach, but if he wants to be here for the long term he will need to channel his inner 06-07 coaching philosophy.

Bama Fan

May 12th, 2010
9:18 am

Nice record last year Tormentor. You were the first loser after it was all said and done. This years game will make Tebow cry all the way out in Denver.

Charlie Bama

May 12th, 2010
9:18 am

Hey, Reality Chick — You’re funny. The idea that Georgia deosn’t allow players of questionable character is hilarious. I wish I had my camera for this moment.

Dr. Kenneth Noisewater

May 12th, 2010
9:18 am

both will be in the hot seat- especially if Richt does not change the penalties/turnovers #s. This has to change this year. Agree w/ TB- hopefully new DC will change that.

stubby

May 12th, 2010
9:18 am

Richt should be on the hot seat – Georgia is a great football program, and deserves better than being a perpetual runner up to Florida.

Iceman

May 12th, 2010
9:19 am

Finebaum has got his head so far up his rear, he can’t even see the light of day. I do think Miles is entering the danger zone, but Richt is far from it. The only ones that think CMR is on the hot seat are Tech and Auburn.

Tormentor

May 12th, 2010
9:20 am

like you the year before oh I forgot about utah bammer

Mikey

May 12th, 2010
9:21 am

I’m not sure that CMR can do anything about the penalties and NO- it wasn’t because of the end zone dance.
He has admitted that the FSU teams he was a part of were the most penalized teams and still had an amazing run of success so he might think it’s no big deal.

The wild card- I think Grantham and his staff will address this isssue for CMR.
They will get in the faces of the players and hold them accountable unlike their predecessors.

DawginLex

May 12th, 2010
9:21 am

Defense and running the football wins the SEC. How you run it doesn’t matter(spread, power I), just run it. But you have to be able to stop the other team.

If our defense doens’t improve dramatically this year, I will be shocked. If we don’t run the ball 60% of the time, I will be shocked.

We must win in Columbia, period. do that and the season becomes optimistic. I think we will win that one and the Arkansas game will end up being the toughest game on our schedule except for Florida.

Charlie Bama

May 12th, 2010
9:21 am

Tormentard — PLEASE use spell check. I really works.

Greens23

May 12th, 2010
9:25 am

Mikey,
If he wants to fix the penalities, sit the person that commits them. I have seen so many late hits and dumb penalties on GA recently that its mind boggling.

Bama Fan

May 12th, 2010
9:26 am

Tormentor, stay in the present forget the past. You sound like a Georgia fan for crying out loud. Remember when Shawn Alexander torched the Gators twice in one year? See what I mean?

Paul Finebaum

May 12th, 2010
9:26 am

Why do you all hate me so much? I am merely a reflection of my listeners. Hating me is like hating yourself!

#1 Hater

May 12th, 2010
9:27 am

Greens23, he even had a problem with late hits and an almost fight between one of the thugs during the Gday game.

Run Lindsey Run

May 12th, 2010
9:28 am

Coach Richt is going to win most of his games including away games. About last year, everyone has a tough season in life. The Dawgs will be back this year and they will be hungry. Also, what I like most about Coach Richt is what he does when nobody is watching. What the Dawg nation needs to realize is there is only one Coach Richt. Sure, Alabama won the National Championship last year. But, the Dawg nation needs to be positive and encourage Coach Richt to win big games. I can remember 1979 Georgia went from mediocre to National Championship. Run Lindsey Run.

Bama Fan

May 12th, 2010
9:28 am

What’s the record between the 2 teams since the conference split? Oh and should we mention your stellar performance against La Monroe?

Shaun Alexander

May 12th, 2010
9:29 am

You mean when I torched the Gators twice, right?

Vince Dooley

May 12th, 2010
9:29 am

I love coach Richt. He makes me look so dadblamed good in comparison. Keep it up Mark and “Go, Big Orange!”

Well....

May 12th, 2010
9:31 am

if the Dawgs go 7-5 this year, 2011 becomes Richt’s make or break year. He would then need at least 9 wins in 2011 to save his job.

Actually, I’d go so far as to say 8-4 this year has the same effect.

Typical Gator Fan

May 12th, 2010
9:32 am

God I wish we had half the tradition Alabama has. Oh well, we’ve only played competitive football since 1990, we still have plenty of time to catch up.

Typical Gator Fan

May 12th, 2010
9:33 am

Please notice that I use “we” when I talk about us Fightin Gators. Work ‘em, Silly Gators!!!

On Campus

May 12th, 2010
9:34 am

Just a few short years ago, both Alabama and Florida were having mediocre season after mediocre season while LSU and UGA were battling it out for supremacy in the SEC. The past couple of years, Florida and Alabama have been the ones at the top while LSU and Georgia have hit a bump in the road. Who is to say that at this time a couple of years from now the roles won’t be reversed? That’s the way things go in the SEC.

CLEVON LITTLE

May 12th, 2010
9:34 am

Richt’s not on the hot-seat yet…maybe by some fans, but as a whole he’s not on the hot-seat. If he wins 7+ games this year he will be back in 2011. Now, after a 7 or 8 win season in ‘10 he comes back & has a re-peat, then he would be on the hot-seat. But my guess is he wins 8 to 10 games this year. He’ll be back in 2011. Too early to give a prediction of 2011.

Typical Bama Fan

May 12th, 2010
9:35 am

God I wish I had a family tree that forked.

BurningRedBleedingBlack

May 12th, 2010
9:35 am

Tony, I really feel like i agree with alot of this post. I think the new defensive coordinator will fix those problems fast!!! However, if Richt does go under fire and lose some games or offense tends to look not ready or the play calling is off, then i think he will have to let BoBo go. I feel good Tony about this season i think good things will return to between those hedges once more. Go Dawgs!!!!!

help, I live in Ga

May 12th, 2010
9:37 am

113 and 118. That says it all right there. That is on the head coach. Richt is an average coach in a talent rich invironment. And he’s a nice guy. He can win an SEC east title again if Florida slips and all the stars align in the rest of the east. But that’s a big if. Then he’ll have to face Saban and thats never good for him.

Les Miles doesn’t have a clue about clock management or most other aspects of football. He is surrounded by quality assistant coaches and tons of talent and that covers up his lack of understanding of the game. He made several fourth down gutsy calls in one year and people started to believe he was a great coach. But were really gutsy calls? If you had polled 20 guys in a bar and asked them would they go for it on fourth down in all of those situations; most of them would have said, hell yeah, lets go for it as they downed their beer. My point is that he gambled and won. But then his luck ran out and his actual coaching ability started to reveal itself.

I like having Richt and Miles in the SEC. Somebody has to set the bar for the middle of the pack in the east and west. They’ll do.

Typical Bama Fan

May 12th, 2010
9:38 am

God I wish I did not need this drool-guard for my keyboard.

Reality

May 12th, 2010
9:39 am

Richt will be in trouble after UGA goes 8-5 this year.

BG

May 12th, 2010
9:39 am

Mark Richt owns Georgia Tech. 8-1 baby!!!!!!!!

9999

May 12th, 2010
9:41 am

CMR’s early career at GA benefited by not having
the likes of Spurrier, Saban, Meyer around.

GA wont sniff an SEC title for a long long time.

GA will be lucky to even win their division.

Paul Finebaum

May 12th, 2010
9:41 am

My family tree forks and I removed my drool-guard. But then again I am not a typical Bama fan. I am the Kaiser, Czar and Imperator of the Bama Nation.

NoGaGator

May 12th, 2010
9:41 am

Playing them every year, I hope that both Coach Richt and Miles stay at their respective schools for a long time to come.

Reality

May 12th, 2010
9:42 am

UGA loses to SC, UF, KY, Auburn and GT this year.

Typical Gator Fan

May 12th, 2010
9:44 am

God I wish I didn’t have to use childish insults to mask my jealousy towards a storied college football team like the University of Alabama.

Typical Gator Fan

May 12th, 2010
9:45 am

I say things like, “I hope he coaches for a long time because we beat them so often.”

The rest of us

May 12th, 2010
9:47 am

I hope Coach Urban Meyer coaches a couple more years. His reaction, as few as there are, is priceless when he loses. There won’t be enough Ambien in North America to help him get sleep in the 2010 season.

Well....

May 12th, 2010
9:48 am

9999,

Saban was around early in Richt’s tenure at UGA. He coached at LSU.

You’re a moron.

Ben

May 12th, 2010
9:48 am

Tony, as a lifelong Dawg fan, I was completely satisfied with the changes and improvements Richt made in the off season. He has shown reluctance to cut bait too quickly, sometimes to the detriment of the team, but the changes that were made directly addressed our most GLARING issues. I think Richt can coach but I think he fell into thinking he could keep doing the same things that won him previous Championships. The landscape has changed since 2005. You have to adapt and his willingness to do so has shown me that he still has the desire to win. Can’t wait to see the new Defense and Special Teams.

Typical Bama Fan

May 12th, 2010
9:49 am

You are jealous…right? Please don’t convey to me that my spiritual life dedicated to Bama worship has all been a lie? Look at my fine Hound’s Tooth Hat….surely you are jealous of that? You mean you wouldn’t trade my doublewide for a national championship? The two are unrelated…right?

anotherdawg

May 12th, 2010
9:50 am

Mark Richt is a great coach, and even better man. He has made changes that needed to be made, and given time, I believe he will not only succeed, but possibly win it all. But, it takes talent, a lot of work, and some breaks to do that. If he was ignoring the problems, it would be different, but I honestly think he wants to win as much as any of us. I remember Saban’s dismay when UGA beat the crap out of one of his LSU teams. Richt is a competitor and a class act. Anyone that thinks you should fire a man like this is an idiot.

Football Fan

May 12th, 2010
9:53 am

Richt’s winning percentage is quite a bit higher than Dooley’s and Dooley is a saint. What gives? You could do much worse than CMR. MUCH WORSE!

Ramble Upwards

May 12th, 2010
9:54 am

You Uga nimrods are such a bunch of well-meaning sheep. Richt is ineffective and you guys are so soft, gullible, well-intentioned or just plain stoopid to realize it. Believe me, the rest of us in the conference are mightily grateful.

DP

May 12th, 2010
9:55 am

Tony, I agree with your analysis except for a couple of minor points. While I think Richt still has plenty of goodwill with the UGA administration and most Georgia fans, I think if he goes 7-5 with 10 starters back on offense and a soft schedule (no Alabama or LSU and no tough out of conference games other than Tech), he will be on the hot seat a year from now. They should do better than that. If Murray is a flop or goes down with an injury, Richt will catch enormous heat for the lack of depth at QB. Had Richt not fired Willie Martinez after last season, I think a 7-5 year this year could have cost him his job. But with a new DC and defensive scheme I think another bad year defensively (though not as bad as the last 2) will be forgiven.

As you say, Les Miles is under much more duress at LSU. I’ve never thought he was a good coach. His national championship team of 2007 was so talented it should have gone undefeated but he somehow managed to lose to Kentucky and Arkansas and almost blew the Auburn game with clock management. They were incredibly lucky to get a shot at the national championship game in 2007 thanks to the epic West Virginia (Rodriguez) choke job against a bad Pitt team.

I think if Miles goes 7-5 or 8-4 he will be gone from LSU, but there’s no way Michigan would consider him to replace Rodriguez (thanks to Mrs. Rodriguez for vetoing the Alabama job) under those circumstances. He may have already burned the Michigan bridge with the lack of a running game at LSU last year and the clock fiasco against Ole Miss.

While Finebaum may be your friend, even as an Alabama partisan I recognize him for what he is: a front running bomb thrower. In the old days I think they called it yellow journalism.

SaintsLSU

May 12th, 2010
9:55 am

Les Miles is a tough arguement amongst LSU fans. He won the National Championship in his 3rd year. I know what you are going to say, he did it with Saban’s players. Yes, and Saban did it with Shula’s players, Meyer did it with Zook’s players. LSU’s slide the past two years can be traced back to kicking that knucklehead Ryan Perrilloux off our team. It forced LSU to start QBs before they were ready. I’m still not completely sold on Jefferson, but it would have been nice to give him two years to develop before he was in the mix. I think LSU fans expceted too much from JJ after he and a talented Tigers squad trashed an inferior ACC team (GT) in a bowl game (Chick-Fil-A) at the end of a frustrating ‘08 season. Heck, even Jarret Lee might have been a good QB in time if he was not thrown into the fire in ‘08. But yes, I cant argue the downward spiral of our football program over the last two years. And yes, there are many D-1 coaches that could have won the NC with the team LSU had in ‘06 and ‘07. Last years Ole Miss game (Timeout-gate) was the most embarrasing moment we have experienced in the Miles era. And it sure doesn’t help Miles that Saban is kicking a$$ at Bama. It just reminds us of what was. All this being said, I still have confidence that Miles and the Tigers can go 10-2 this season. But there is a fine line between 10-2 and 8-4 in the SEC.

Jack Nicklaus

May 12th, 2010
9:57 am

9999,

Richt’s record against Spurrier at South Carolina is 4-1.

You’re a moron.

Richt beat Saban

May 12th, 2010
9:59 am

To 9999:

Saban was at LSU when Richt won the SEC in 2002 and won the east in 2003. Get your facts straight.

Ramble Upwards

May 12th, 2010
10:00 am

Eat the dust of Josh Nesbitt and Co.

ozzfest

May 12th, 2010
10:00 am

I am cool with Richt as coach…but if Georgia does somehow drop to 7-5 with the weak schedule in 2010, HE SHOULD BE FIRED.

Jackie Moon

May 12th, 2010
10:02 am

Finebaum has it right, but the UGA admin will not get it right. Richt has had time to get the program to a national championship level and he has failed to do so. Give him another 10 years and he will not get close. Sure he might get lucky and win another SEC title but that’s a longshot as of right now. Urban Meyer sure hopes Richt hangs around UGA a long, long time.

1980 Natl Champs Pretty Much by Default

May 12th, 2010
10:02 am

Let me knock a little luster off of UGA’s only claim to fame in the last 50 years or so. The 1980 team went 12-0, beating Notre Dame in the Sugar Bowl 17-10. That year, the Dawgs’ opponents were a combined 55-78. (!) They were 16-42 in their respective conferences (!!). Only 4 of the 12 teams had a winning season. (!!!) Notre Dame was beaten by USC 20-3 that year and TIED GA TECH who went 1-9-1 on the season. (!!!!) HOW BOUT THEM DAWGS NOW !!!!!!!!!!

BG

May 12th, 2010
10:03 am

Ozzfest, Weak schedule?? This schedule looks like a typical UF schedule.

Thanks Tony

May 12th, 2010
10:06 am

Mr. SEC… Mr. SEC…Mr. SEC… Mr. SEC…

Typical Gator Fan

May 12th, 2010
10:07 am

Please, nobody go through the chain of events that comes with the championship runs the Gators went on. That will really knock the rust of our championships.

Chris

May 12th, 2010
10:07 am

I don’t understand why this is a constant conversation topic. Have we all forgotten the Ray Goff years? I know that I haven’t. If you simply compare Richt’s numbers to any of Georgia’s past coaches, you’ll see that he’s arguably the best. One national title, and he’s inarguably #1, and to think that he won’t win one before he’s done in Athens means that you haven’t been watching for the last nine years.

Anonymous

May 12th, 2010
10:08 am

Les Miles needs to buy a watch.

Dazzling Danny

May 12th, 2010
10:08 am

Tony-

You nailed it. Paul F. can’t be taken seriously, he’s an Alabama homer.

Richt is not a good self promoter like Kiffin or Miles. That’s hurt him. But, his substance is solid. His track record is there. His down seasons are an 8 win season.

Disagree with you about the most important stat is turnover margin. I think it’s scoring margin being +20, if you’re at +20, the penalties and turnovers don’t matter, as Jimmy Johnson proved at Miami.

Pal F. doesn’t point out Richt’s recent record against the ALABAMA SCHOOL IS 3-1 AGAINST BAMA AND 4-0 AGAINST aUBURN. 7-1 IS SIGNIFICANT. Urban Meyer is 0-2 against auburn, and 2-2 against Bama.

I can see why Paul wants Richt out, less competition, but likely, Saban will leave again, like he does after 5 years, every single time in his career. Saban’s a gypsy.

Burdell

May 12th, 2010
10:11 am

They both coach at schools with delusional fan bases but Les Miles is a creep. At least Richt seems to be a good guy…

GO JACKETS!

Mike

May 12th, 2010
10:12 am

Les is on borrowed time, Richt is not. I agree that Les could be living in Ann Arbor, Michigan as soon as December.

Wolveriner

May 12th, 2010
10:15 am

Why do you yokels think that we cannot see Les Miles for the empty hat that he is? We don’t want him. Nice try.

Big House

May 12th, 2010
10:16 am

Why would Michigan want Miles ?

Big 10 - slow football played on knee high grass

May 12th, 2010
10:20 am

Michigan is trash. Give me a break.

76-Dawg

May 12th, 2010
10:21 am

UGA should have gotten rid of Martinez 2 or three years earlier and Bobo is not an offensive coordinator but CMR is trying to find someone in those positions that will be at UGA for 10 to 20 years. The worst thing in the world is to showcase an offensive or defensive coordinator and then he leave after 3 years to be a head coach. CMR didn’t like it when he had to fire Martinez but something radical had to be done after one of the worst defensive years in UGA history. Bobo will never leave UGA voluntarily but this should be his last training year. It’s time Bobo stepped up and showed what he has learned, discipline, consistency, being able to keep up with the speed of an SEC game.

Otto

May 12th, 2010
10:21 am

MIles was never fully accepted at LSU even during the season he won a national title some did fully endorse him. After he won the title you just heard it was with Saban’s players. Les could be gone if he does not win the right games.

CMR would ahve to really screw up to be fire after the end of this season but if ‘11 odes not get to 10 wins and atleast very close against UF it may not look so good.

CMR has 2 wins against the arch rival Florida and alot of it is his fault for putting in a backup QB who tosses an INT, not taking the redshirt off a QB when the starter goes down or just being out coached as in the past 2 years. The location has nothing to do with it, CMR usually has a great road team. If anything being in Jax is an davantage thanks to that road record, UF has to travel by bus, and sadly Athens does not compete with UF, UT, and LSU in terms of noise and home field advantage. SOS regularly outcoached Goff and Donnan making the record that much worse.

WonderDawg

May 12th, 2010
10:24 am

Some more important numbers Tony. If UGA in ‘07 was “as good as anybody in the country,” how did Richt let us get beat by inferior SC and UT? Tony, do you think Saban or Myer could have run the table in ‘07 and ‘08 with those UGA teams?

I am a big Richt supporter and hope he stays our head coach for a long time, but I think he lacks some of the qualities that Saban, Myer, and some others have. His tender-heartedness towards his obviously over-matched assistants (Martinez and Bobo) have let UGA spiral downward so fast, last season almost seemed like a return to the Ray Goff days. Kiffin making fun of how easy it was to game plan for UGA reminded me of Spurrier making fun of Goff.

Hiring Grantham will help put UGA back in the mix, but Richt will have to raid the NFL again (this time for a OC) in order for UGA to compete with Saban’s Tide and Myer’s Gators again.

dawgfan

May 12th, 2010
10:25 am

I think its pretty foolish to write off Richt or Miles based on a couple of underwhelming years. People act like Saban and Meyer win national championships every time they field a team. Saban has had is fair share of mediocre seasons and Meyer has two 9 win seasons at Florida, which may have been worse if Florida didn’t have such a favorable schedule every year (couldn’t resist). He will have more if he doesn’t have a mental breakdown first. Great coaches have not so great years.

timthebrave

May 12th, 2010
10:26 am

Les Miles is on the hot seat. Mark Richt is not and shouldn’t be. If he averages 10 wins a season like he has for the first 9 years he will never be on the hot seat.

Wolveriner

May 12th, 2010
10:26 am

A Big 10 team beat one of your premier SEC teams in the slop in Jax on NYD as I recall. All this SEC triumphalism is overdone…since your universities (with 1 exception) are 3rd rate, I guess you need something to compensate.

DP

May 12th, 2010
10:26 am

Good data on Georgia’s strength of schedule in 1980. Where’s JB, the Georgia homer who claims Alabama had a soft schedule last year when it beat 10 bowl teams and 4 top 10 teams?

observer

May 12th, 2010
10:30 am

Miles is a better coach than Richt. Richt recruits a bunch of undisciplined thugs and can’t control them, either on or off the field. UGA fans LOVE Richt…what does that say about them?

Johnny DangerDawg

May 12th, 2010
10:30 am

Some of the penalty problems are things the coaches can fix (eg: teaching young offensive linemen not to move before the ball is snapped). Other penalty problems are really the result of referees being more stingy in Georgia games. Am I saying the referees are trying to make Georgia lose? NO. But I do believe that ever since the endzone dance in Jacksonville, the refs have been watching BOTH teams much more closely in Georgia games.
How else do you explain the Georgia opponents who tend who get MORE penalties against Georgia than the get when they compete against other teams? Look at last year’s Oklahoma State game (OK State got 15 penalties; UGA got 7.) If every team had to play Georgia every week, I think Georgia’s national ranking for penalties would average out to be about in the middle!

SaintsLSU

May 12th, 2010
10:32 am

This is HUGE year for Coach Miles. Anything less than 9-3 will not be tolerated. LSU can afford losses vs Florida & Bama, although I think LSU will beat Bama. We just can’t slip up vs an inferrior team, and that can easily happen on the road in the SEC. What happens to Miles if LSU goes 8-4? I don’t think that’s enough to fire someone after winning the ‘07 NC.

A Heckofanengineer

May 12th, 2010
10:32 am

Richt is as mediocre as a piece of Wonderbread. He is just in that sweet spot of being too good to fire and not good enough to really win anything of substance.

RichRod = man of integrity and honor

May 12th, 2010
10:32 am

The Big 10 “academic” argument is overstated and overplayed. You people are delusional.

You’re looking at bringing in Nebraska, Missouri, Pitt, and Rutgers for crying out loud.

Tulane rules

May 12th, 2010
10:35 am

At this rate of decline, even we will be able to take down LSU in a few years!

Dwight

May 12th, 2010
10:36 am

i could care less about miles and richt, ROLL MF TIDE!

dawgster

May 12th, 2010
10:37 am

Flowery Branch, You had a very good post and i agree with your comments, its obvious that you know a great deal about football.. To win an NC you have to be good, but also you must have some luck too… The ttimes when the dawgs were very good, the luck factor didn’t fall their way, of course you make you have to make your own luck too.. The times when the dawgs did not have a great season, whether due to injuries, coaching or talent, the dawgs wouldn’t have been helped by luck…It has been a while as we know since the dawgs won a NC but alot of teams are in that boat, it just so happens that Bama and the Gators are in the SEC….Remember it wasn’t too many years back that Bama was not relevant either, so things can change pretty quickly..I hear alot of talk about getting rid of Coach Richt, mostly from what have you done for me lately fans..Tell me who out there would do better than Coach Richt that would gaurentee a NC for us…We still compete in the strongest conference in America by most accounts…We still will be competing against Bama, Gators and other very good teams in the SEC…Please lets stay behind Coach Richt and staff and let him do his job…He made some tough changes in the coaching staff this past off season-lets see how it plays out…One thing i do know about Coach Richt, he is very, very competitive and i can assure he wants to bring an NC to the dawg nation…

suwaneedawg

May 12th, 2010
10:38 am

All I have got to say is people best have patience this year because like it or not, this is a rebuilding year. New QB, new coaches, and new defense means mistakes will happen when we don’t want them to. Richt should no more be on the hot seat then Saban or Meyers. The guy bleeds red & black and has brought respect to the program. Will we win the east this year? Most likely not and we very well could have a year like last. What matters to me is what happens in 2011 and beyond. If we are still running at a 4-5 loss seasons then changes will need to take place at the top. I hope UGA fans understand what this guy had done for our program and will not make this year into a make or break for Richt. What other pinheads on these blogs think from other schools means nothing. What matters is our base and are we going to accept that this is a re-building year and keep our expectations real. I guess we will find out.

Wolveriner

May 12th, 2010
10:39 am

Pitt is a good school…the others…ahem…not so much. Which is why they will never be offered!

As for delusional, you need to look around the SEC to realize that you all have chosen bread and circuses over real universities (again, with 1 exception) and are a bunch of world class chumps for having done so.

DAWG Colonel

May 12th, 2010
10:39 am

CMR will be in Athens long after Les Miles gets the boot at LSU, Nick Saban leaves for the NFL (again) and Urban Meyer retires for health reasons.

Mark Richt is the class of the SEC. He has made some mistakes because he is too much of a “nice guy”. I think he has finally realized that and has taken corrective action. I don’t think he will let personal relationships get in the way of necessary decisions in the future.

As previously posted, Bear Bryant and Bobby Bowden took years to win national championships. CMR will get his in time also.

Saban and Meyer are great coaches but also anomolies (they achieved greatness so fast that it has become the standard). But once the championships are gone, there is no personality or “Class”……just an empty trophy case where the National Championship Trophy used to sit.

UGA may not have the trophies but we have a coach with “Class” and a personality that most admire. CMR will be the head DAWG for many more years. .

Greg

May 12th, 2010
10:41 am

Tony, you lost my at “my good friend Paul Finebaum”. If you are good friends with that POS then a good bit of my respect for you just went out the door. He is a hack and a Bama homer. Everything he does is to help out the Tide. That article was written because Miles is Bama’s biggest rival in the West and because Bama recruits heavily in Georgia. Any one that thought this wasn’t the case before, just look at him on the sidelines in Bama gear for their spring game. Give me a break…

sugarpikegang

May 12th, 2010
10:42 am

I hope you hang around for years to come!

Signed,
A Tech Alumus

5IML

May 12th, 2010
10:43 am

Dawg Fans,

On Monday while the Richts were shooting a carpet commercial, Saban was in California shooting a GameDay commercial with Mack Brown. He was there because BAMA won the BCS championship last year. Nationally, no one cares what Richt’s record is over the last nine years or his record against this coach or that coach. The Championship is what it’s about.

[...] that they are.)Today, Barnhart — for The Atlanta Journal-Constitution — writes that the similarities between Richt and Miles are few.“…Richt’s situation and that of Miles just aren’t comparable.  If Miles [...]

SaintsLSU

May 12th, 2010
10:45 am

Toolame sucks, don’t count on it!

Otto

May 12th, 2010
10:47 am

Timthebrave, I do not think 10 wins a year should guarantee a coach his job. Bama fired Curry who could beat every team in the SEC but Auburn. They found a coach that would win National Titles. Shula won several game at Bama under probation but didn’t win the big ones. THey have another coach that has won a national title and expected to win more. I do not think UGA should settle.

It is one thing to be .500 against your top rival waiting for the year where everything lines up but it is not. The seat may not be hot but it is getting warm.

Tulane Rules

May 12th, 2010
10:48 am

Even Mike the Tiger opted for suicide.

SOOHSO

May 12th, 2010
10:48 am

UGA has another boring 9-3 or 10-2 season. Can’t win the BIG ones!!!

RichRod = man of integrity and honor

May 12th, 2010
10:50 am

Florida ranks 9 spots higher than Pitt in the national rankings. UGA is 2 spots behind.

Delusional.

So do you guys hear this same crap from the Ivy League schools? Is that why you’re like this?

bull-gator

May 12th, 2010
10:50 am

Les Miles is to LSU as Ron Zook was to Florida…only with a little more luck.

SOOHSO

May 12th, 2010
10:50 am

Enter your comments here

Johnny Devereaux

May 12th, 2010
10:51 am

Tony you highlighted the differences between UGA and LSU very well. UGA is ok with medocrity so yes a 7-5 season will probably keep Richt in Athens another year. While in Baton Rouge, anything less than 10-2 will get Miles run out of town. This is also the reason why LSU has 2 national championships to UGA’s zero this past decade. Miles is the better recruiter and LSU is the better program.

Have a great day!!

Otto

May 12th, 2010
10:52 am

Greg, Finebaum is a UT alum. He does articles and radio shows are written to provoke a response like a Howard Stern of Alabama sports media. He is not a Bama homer but being in the media business in Bama you get better ratings if it is often pro Bama. I was disappointed to see Tony call him a friend.

Dawgdreamer

May 12th, 2010
10:53 am

This UGA team has a chance to be special. They always exceed expectations when they are not expected to do much. Here are the reasons why they will be better than last year;

1) Favorable Schedule
2) Peaking Offensive Line
3) Talented Sophomore class that made an impact as Freshman
4) No Joe Cox
5) No Willie Martinez

Barring injuries they will be undefeated going into Jacksonville. Keep the uniform gimicks in the bag and play hard nose football. Richt will be here for at least another 10 years.

Hugh Jackman

May 12th, 2010
10:54 am

I agree with you, Wolveriner, for reasons obvious to some astute readers. College football has gotten a little out of hand, love it though I do. It’s too bad the presidents need the revenue bad enough that they sacrifice their integrity as educators and run modern-day plantations with slave labor. And a fraction of the kids get to think they’ll follow in the footsteps of such character stalwarts as (name your favorite NFL/NBA thugs here).

Delbert D.

May 12th, 2010
10:54 am

Averaging 6-2 in the SEC and 1-1 (so far) against Paul Johnson is decent. It all depends on how Richt does in the other out-of-conference games. 3 wins every year in those, and Georgia wins 9 to 10 games every year, with the chance to add a bowl win for a really good season.

TommyGator

May 12th, 2010
10:54 am

May, by the grace of everything right and proper, Paul Slimbomb drive under a semi.

Tony, I thought you had better taste.

Wolveriner

May 12th, 2010
10:55 am

Keep going down the academic rankings if you dare. As you guys love to say, it’s the depth of the conference that counts. Ole Miss and Bama ought to be re-classified as community colleges with Div 1 football teams.

dawgster

May 12th, 2010
10:56 am

51Ml, whats your point other than to point out Bama won the NC..Sorry to disappoint you but yes his record over the last nine years is relevant and does matter..When will the Bama faithful start throwing bricks thru Saban’s windows as they did with Bill Curry and other coaches who didn’t give you a NC every year…I believe every Coach knows exactly what “what it is about”, yes championships..Don’t know if or when the dawgs will win a NC, but i would bet the dawg nation will not be throwing bricks through his windows…

joe

May 12th, 2010
10:58 am

looking at UGA’s shhheddual, 5 losses seems about right…will that be ’nuff to run Richt out? Miles should have a better team this year, but ya gotta scratch your head at some of the bonehead decisions he makes…that will end up costing him his job at some point.

kgator79

May 12th, 2010
10:59 am

Really UGA fan your going to continue to pull its a “disadvantage” for UGA to play in Jax against UF? Oh my! UGA has to travel by plane while UF travels by bus. Must be some really tough flights the players take. Last I checked when I fly, its pretty comfortable. I can take a nap if I’d like, watch a movie, relax. But clearly UGA must be taking a cargo plane full of chickens to columbia then back to Jacksonville. Give it up UGA fan. You lose on the field because your out coached and out played. The game has been there since the 30s and you only complain about it when your losing. You certainly didnt have a problem with it in the 80s.

Dawgdreamer

May 12th, 2010
10:59 am

Joe, five loses? Name them.

8-1

May 12th, 2010
11:00 am

There is something ironic (or pathetic) about Tech fans calling Richt mediocre. He’s mediocre, and yet, he’s still 8-1 against Tech. At least Florida fans have justification for talking some trash.

DP

May 12th, 2010
11:00 am

SaintsLSU, I think whether Miles would survive an 8-4 season is a function of what the 8-4 season looks like. If they look like a well coached team on offense and lose close games to Alabama, Florida and a couple of others but also have some impressive wins, Miles would probably get another year. If it is 8-4 with a soft running game and clock management issues plus a couple of bad losses that show LSU is no longer a threat to the top teams (like Georgia’s loss to Alabama in 2008 and to Florida in 2008 and 2009), I think Miles would be fired.

While Miles has the 2007 national championship (won as much despite him as because of him in my opinion), some of what went on at LSU last year (clock management, no offensive identity, a key player who didn’t know where to line up half the time) reflected such a lack of basic coaching as to be a fireable offense.

Wolveriner

May 12th, 2010
11:00 am

Hugh, all regional joking aside, that which has been rotten seems unaccountably to have been further putrefied by the ESPN contract with the SEC and all the expansion insanity. Those of us that believe in the ultimate mission of the university, yet have a crack-like addicition to college football cannot help but be troubled by our enabling ;-) I have the urge to stand athwart history and yell “stop!” to quote a great man.

Paul Hamilton

May 12th, 2010
11:09 am

Richt would need to have a very poor season this year followed by another very poor year for his job to even get to choping block status.

If the dawgs rebound this year with a good season, followed by a strong recruiting class to build on next year they will be fine. He changed much of the staff and has the program pointed back in the right direction.

Gary

May 12th, 2010
11:09 am

I remember the Ray G years at Georgia. It was awful. I doubt we could get anyone better than Richt and I love what he has done for the school. We knew last year would be rough but those of us at the games recognise how different our season could have been minus 1 BS penalty against LSU. We are still being punished for celebrating in Jacksonville. Watching the draft they showed highlite after highlite of guys running from the inzone to the crowd thumping chests using hand signs for the school, no penalties. Florida will always be a thorn in our side. Just like Ohio State will always have the upper hand against Michigan, but do we really want to try the Rick Rodriges solution? Richt will get things going again. However, if Tennessee take Mett as QB, that is a coach that needs to be fired.

Bulldog59

May 12th, 2010
11:09 am

Good article. Agreed, Miles and Richt are totally different cases.

Miles took over Saban’s project of building a BCS contender at LSU, a nice little package to inherit. To date, he remains on the hot seat, continuing to show, he is not a game day coach.

Richt, did well early, 2 SEC Titles in 2002 and 2005, followed by a #2 final BCS ranking on 2007, but hasn’t won the SEC in 4 years.

Richt’s issue seems to be directly related to his tendency to promote from within. After Van Gorder left, the D had one good year (2005), then began a downward spiral under Martinez. Let’s see what a 75% retooled D staff can do.

On O, Bobo is predictable at times, and overmatched other times. CMR’s solution is to revert back to his old time mgmt. plan and spend more time (daily) with the O. At some point, he’s got to trust Bobo with the whole thing, or he will need to look at making another change.

Reptiles Rule

May 12th, 2010
11:17 am

Seems to me that Miles’ seat may be a little hotter than Richts and I think for a couple of reasons. 1) UGA and their fans seem to be a little happier with their lot in life than do the folks in Bayou country. If the dawgs win 9 games but no championships…no real serious problem. The people over at LSU seem to be a little more like Bama and Florida…a couple of years without at least getting to the SECCG and the natives start getting somewhat restless. 2) Richt is more entrenched and established in terms of relationships, tenure etc than Miles. One can’t help but get the feeling that LSU see’s CLM as a bit of an outsider, a hired gun as opposed to being a more solid fixture in the overall scheme of things. Richt, as Tony has pointed out, has a bit more goodwill built up over the years. Prediction: If both Miles and Richt go 7-5 this year, it’s gonna be real hard to see Miles staying. I think Richt gets a year longer rope and still has Bobo that he can fire to deflect heat to before the sights become firmly focused on him.

Larry

May 12th, 2010
11:17 am

I don’t believe Coach Richt will win another SEC title at Georgia, therefore he won’t be their coach for very many more seasons.

Johnny Devereaux

May 12th, 2010
11:21 am

@ Gary

Wow, 7 months later and youre still blaming your crappy season on the refs. Grow up! The celebration penalty (while BS) did not cost UGA that game against LSU. It was UGA’s inabilities to cover a kick and tackle. Charles Scott broke 3 tackles from your best LB’s and S and raced 33 yards for the score. Then after LSU scored the final TD (and was subsequently penalized for celebration) UGA still had a minute to win the game. Guess what, they did not. Not the refs fault.

now, you’ll probabaly say the penalty change momentum. If it did, then that is a coaching problem.

Yet another reason why LSU is a better program than UGA.

SaintsLSU

May 12th, 2010
11:23 am

Yes DP, I agree. LSU has some tough OOC games this season. UNC and WVU are not gimmes. I think 9-3 is a likely destination for the Tigers in 2010. And then we will be having this same conversation same time next year. I do think LSU will be very good in ‘11, especially if CB Pat Peterson stays for senior season, and assuming that Jordan Jefferson matures into the QB we are expecting. So if that scenario plays out, I think anything less than a West Championship in ‘11 would be unacceptable by many Tiger fans standards.

The Ghost of Wally Butts

May 12th, 2010
11:23 am

I’ll trade my own win percentage for CMR’s win percentage. Any ol day.

And hell, they named the Black building for me.

HugoStiglitz

May 12th, 2010
11:23 am

Mark Richt probably has one more lackluster season before he is really on the hot seat. Les Miles already has one foot out the door. Neither are in a great position but Richt has more time to work with. Unless UGA is just horrible this season (worse then 7-5) then Richt has at least one more year left. Les Miles needs to turn things around quick or he is gone.

The Clarke County Sheriff

May 12th, 2010
11:24 am

Could you UGA folks please help with my jail capacity problem by keeping your thugs out of my joint for a little while?

JB

May 12th, 2010
11:25 am

Easy to look at miles and pull the trigger….Richt has a lot going for him. A couple of weaknesses though
He’s see’s the good in people and not the bad…..Willie Martinez was hard working, loyal, great family man….but an awful DC. also, Richt does not have a killer instinct.Also, Bobo should be graded and evaluated as a OC, not a Georgia alum with a cute family.

Bulldog59

May 12th, 2010
11:26 am

JD, agreed, it WAS a terrible call, according the SEC office the following week, but that’s football, and you’ve got to overcome those things.

We make one crucial tackle on LSU’s next possession and it’s probably a different outcome.

Reptiles Rule

May 12th, 2010
11:28 am

And BTW, Finebaum is a stooge. He just loves the coaches that will come on his show and gives him the respect he is “due” for him being “the voice of the SEC”. Of course, Bama’s got things rolling so he’s gonna roll with Saban and his gang. Can’t blame him for pandering a bit to his audience but what he says about some other programs/coaches are really just stupid crazy and mis-informed. Again, he’s just playing everybody in my opinion for the ratings. Guess it works for him….

Crimson Tider

May 12th, 2010
11:30 am

Reptiles Rule,

That would be a pretty accurate observation. LSU fans, like Bama and Florida fans, have come to expect championship football. Not so at Georgia. Expectations are different and it seems at Georgia they seem to be satisfied with winning 9-10 games, being decent, good, respectable program but not a championship program. How else can one explain not getting fired for going 2-7 against your biggest rival with no end in sight of being able to beat that rival. Assuming he loses to UF as he always does he will be 2-8 overall and more importantly 1-6 against Meyer. Anywhere else that gets you fired no matter how consistently decent your teams are with 9-10 game winning seasons. You have to beat your biggest rival with some consistency.

Nothing wrong with lower expectations if you’re happy with it. Just a different mindset between what Florida, Bama, and LSU have come to expect. Even when we were weak and saddled with probation in the early 2000s we still had the mindset that when it was all over we would be back to competing on a national basis. I’ve never seen that at Georgia and for that reason I agree with you that Richt gets a longer rope due to lower expectations.

Johnny Devereaux

May 12th, 2010
11:32 am

Thanks Bulldog59! I knew some of you guys were logical! BS calls happen all the time to every team. Gotta overcome.

Typicalfinbaumcaller

May 12th, 2010
11:32 am

Paul,what did Coach have for breakfast,I’ll hang up and listen

DaveDawg

May 12th, 2010
11:33 am

Finebaum did talk about Richt being on the hot seat last summer, before it became a fashionable conversation. So I’ll give him that.

But man, that radio show of his is awful. Dead air, awkward moments, idiot callers, long boring interviews with nobodies. Clearly a second-rate, small market show. I just don’t get why people listen to it. Same goes for the asinine “Rick & Bubba Show.” What the hell is wrong with Birmingham?

Johnny Devereaux

May 12th, 2010
11:35 am

@ Crimson Tider

Never thought I’d agree with a Bama fan but well said.

DaveDawg

May 12th, 2010
11:35 am

Finebaum did talk about Richt being on the hot seat last summer, before it became a fashionable conversation. So I’ll give him that.

But man, that radio show of his is awful. Dead air, awkward moments, idiot callers, long boring interviews with nobodies. Clearly a second-rate, small market show. I just don’t get why people listen to it. Same goes for the asinine “Rick & Bubba Show.” What the hell is wrong with Birmingham?

DP

May 12th, 2010
11:41 am

SaintsLSU, you guys have as much chance of keeping your DB Peterson around for his senior year as Alabama does of keeping Jones, Dareus, Ingram and Hightower or Georgia has with A.J. Green. Peterson is a stud. The early NFL mock drafts have him in or near the top 10 picks.

I’ll be very interested to see the early LSU-UNC game. That is a huge game to help determine if the ACC will be relevant nationally and whether anybody in the SEC is going to step up and challenge Alabama and Florida. With UNC’s defense it will be a great barometer of whether LSU has addressed its offensive problems from last year. I understand the struggles with the passing game last year with a young QB (though you had good receivers) but the lack of a running game was pretty shocking.

SaintsLSU

May 12th, 2010
11:41 am

Yes, Crimson Tider and Reptiles Rule, I have to agree with your analysis of both fanbases. 2010 is going to be all about Jordan Jefferson’s progress. Is he the QB that LSU is expecting? Can he take us to the next level? We will see.

McDawg

May 12th, 2010
11:42 am

BAMA was the very definition of medicority for how long before Saban showed up???

Birmingham

May 12th, 2010
11:48 am

DaveDawg,

The finebaum show I get even though I’m not a fan of it. People, especially Bama fans, tune it because Finebaum is such a flamethrower. He’s like a Rush Limbaugh. You either love him or hate him and the people who hate him will still listen just to hate on him. He’s somewhat on the Bama bandwagon for the moment but that’s only due to our success last year. For years before that he taunted and ridiculed Bama fans as AU handed us our butts. He’s fair weather guy and just goes with whoever is on top at the moment.

As for Rick and Bubba I completely don’t get it as well. But before you ridicule B’ham keep in mind there are a lot of Georgia people who love that show. You’re just trying to use these 2 shows for a little enjoyable Bama bashing that Georgia people like to do to try and build themselves up by tearing someone else down.

Scott

May 12th, 2010
11:49 am

Hi Tony – can you name another major school keeping a coach that is 2-7 versus their biggest rival?

Will

May 12th, 2010
11:50 am

UGA fans will finally get to see what kind of talent CMR has stockpiled over the past few years. We now have assistant coaches that puts the best players on the field and knows how to teach fundamentals. The Junkyard Dawg Defense will be back this year with a nasty streak to boot. Look for a blowout victory over USC to get the ball rolling on an 11-1 campaign.

9999

May 12th, 2010
11:50 am

Saban has spent a total of 8 years in SEC.
2 SEC titles. 2 NC rings.
BTW, last time Richt faced Saban, it was total beat-down.

Meyer has spent a total of 5 years in SEC.
2 SEC titles. 2 NC rings.
And we know Meyers OWNS Richt.

Spurrier. Well, we know the name “Spurrier” has been tatooed
on Ga’s a$$ for as long as we can remember.

Like I said. With the current slate of HCs in the SEC,
Richt wont sniff an SEC title for a long long time.

rajun cajun

May 12th, 2010
11:53 am

miles loses to unc to start the season, he’s as good as done.

K.C. Stephens

May 12th, 2010
11:54 am

While turnover margin is critical for any team the number of penalties a team commits is surprisingly fairly meaningless. LSU and Florida both led the SEC in penalties yet won conference and national championships.

Crimson Tider

May 12th, 2010
11:55 am

McDawg,

We were the definition of mediocrity for about 5 years between 2000 and 2004 and even then we still managed a 10 win season in there. Please show me a program that has never had a bad 5 year stretch in its history especially given that those were our probation years where we played with 21 fewer scholarship players than everyone else. All you got to point to in our storied history is one mediocre 5 year time frame. Feel better now?

I would rather have one bad 5 year run due to playing with half a deck then go 20 years in between conference championships or 30 years in between national championships. Now THAT would be the definition of mediocrity only it would be mediocrity defined over the long term as opposed to a 5 year time frame.

Between 2005 and 2009 we had 3 10+ winning seasons and went to a bowl every year winning 3 of the 5 and a bcs title.

TheItaliandawg

May 12th, 2010
12:00 pm

large part of Richt bad luck has to do with Martinez and his bad choice of assistants. I do believe that Georgia is back to the double digit win column. We dawg fans know more about our problems than so called experts from the outsiders

Delusions of grandeur

May 12th, 2010
12:00 pm

Will,

Dawgs go 11-1 this year? They’ve been stockpiling monster talent the last few years? Better talent than Florida’s monster no. 1 rated class this year or Florida’s top 5 classes over the last couple years? Better than Bama’s 4th rated class this year preceded by back to back no. 1 ranked recruiting classes in 2008 and 2009? Better than LSU’s consistent top 5-7 recruiting classes? Keep deluding yourself buddy. Nothing like a little self medication to help oneself get by.

SUNTAN HEAD

May 12th, 2010
12:09 pm

HI THIS IS MARK RICHT, I’LL BE IN THE TANNING BED TIL 2PM SO LET ME KNOW WHAT YOU ALL DECIDE

jumbeauxtiger

May 12th, 2010
12:11 pm

Tony, there is more going on behind the scenes at Death Valley than you apparently know. It’s tempered somewhat for now since it’s the off season but earlier this year there were alot of upset people. I can tell you that if LSU doesn’t go at least 9-3 or even perhaps 10-2 I’m not so sure Les will be the coach in 2011.

Yes Les did win the NC in 2007 with Saban’s seniors but they have to be coached and yes the Tigers did have some luck. Hasn’t nearly every title team had some luck along the way?

Les doesn’t come across as a great speaker like Saban, Tressel and others. However that doesn’t mean he is dumb or doesn’t know football. I do know that he is well-respected in the coaching community. If he wasn’t he would not have been able to lure Crowton away from Oregon, Frank Wilson from Tennessee, and hire Billy Gonzales and John Chavis. If he was as incompetent as many on here blog, those guys would never have come aboard and all of them are outstanding coaches.

I just don’t agree with an earlier poster that Miles is not a good gameday coach. Yes there was no excuse for the time debacle against Ole Miss. However I have been to many games when the Tigers came out in the second half and won games and that is attributed to adjustments being made.

Miles does runs a disciplined program. To my knowledge I can only think of 4 player arrests in the last 4 years.

He also is a great recruiter as LSU’s classes are tyoically among the best in the nation. A service last week had the Tigers ranked 2nd for 2011. We all know that can change.

LSU’s woes on offense last season are primarily due to poor play at QB and poor blocking by the line. Yes Tony the Tigers’ run game last season was bad. However in 2008 the Tigers had Herman Johnson, a massive left guard who was a 1st team All-American, Ciron Black, all-SEC, and Quinn Johnson, an outstanding blocking fullback. In 2009 both of the Johnsons were gone and the Tigers never did found a replacement after using several players to fill Quinn’s shoes at FB. They had a new center in 2009 and Black simply had a poor season. Sporting News magazine had Black as their top lineman in the nation last August. He regressed so much that he wasn’t even drafted by the NFL and to my knowledge didn’t sign a free agent contract as well.

Perrilloux was going to be the starter at QB in 2008 but when he was kicked off they had noone with any real experience as Perriolloux was the backup the prior season. They ended up throwing Lee in there and we know what happened with him. They had not choice but to go with Jefferson and he just has not panned out.

This is to not make any excuses and, as ReptileRules accurately says, the natives are restless as the last 2 seasons are just unacceptable.

Miles does have the heat on him and he has a tough schedule this fall in which to turn things around. The window for him to improve is getting narrower. Personally, I have met him and i like him. But the bottom line is winning and contending for championships.

As far as Richt, yes he has had a great record but his lack of success against Florida, not winning a NC and the numerous off-field problems with players has him in some hot water too. I lived in Georgia for many years and most of my friends there are Dawg fans and they are not happy either. If UGA goes 8-4 and if those losses include Tech, Florida and/or Auburn and SCarolina, it would not surprise me, Tony, if he was fired.

In my opinion, both will have serious problems if they don’t win at least 9 games. Personally I think Les needs to win 10 but I am doubtful because of the schedule.

Geaux Tigers
Go SEC

GEEZ

May 12th, 2010
12:13 pm

you know if you inbreds who walk around beating your chest about how great and tough the SEC is, you may want to think about kicking out the following: Ole Miss, Miss St, Vandy, Ky(even though they beat UGA) and I would raise a serious eyebrow to SC. Also, what the he!! has happened to TN and Auburn? Your conference presently SUX but yet you all seem to think it is a pedal above all others

DaveDawg

May 12th, 2010
12:22 pm

Birmingham,

Yes, it’s just fun to make Alabama jokes. I actually briefly lived in Gadsden in the mid ’90s and listened to Rick & Bubba before they made the big move to Birmingham. It was a good show for a small town. The thing about them and Finebaum is, well, they just ooze feel-good, home-spun, comfortable homerism. It’s like eating an entire bag of brown sugar. That works in Birmingham, and that’s fine. But it is different in Atlanta radio, for better (my opinion) or for worse.

boiler up

May 12th, 2010
12:25 pm

If I were a Georgia fan i would nothing more but for Richt to be at Georgia a long time. Eventually better things will happen for Georgia football than it has in recent years. Richt is a great guy and a good coach as well as a tremendous recruiter. Mention someone who would replace Richt that would be better or do better?? That’s what i thought. For those Dawg fans that don’t support him get a clue!!! Class and winning are a good combo.. Winning and being thugville are not.. Good luck to you and Boiler Up!!

boiler up

May 12th, 2010
12:28 pm

Sorry for the typing error… I type like I have a Masters from Bama… Boiler Up!!

The AJC on my doorstep`

May 12th, 2010
12:30 pm

Is there a way to block all the ludicrous, retarded commentary from ever showing up on my computer screen? Is there a pill we can dispense that makes people realize that they aren’t really clever? Otherwise, I may have to just read the AJC the old-fashioned way…with ink-stained fingers on the front porch, sippin’ on a lemonade.

DLine

May 12th, 2010
12:32 pm

How will an improved defense address 28 turnovers? Don’t think the defense made those.

Schedule smack

May 12th, 2010
12:38 pm

For those of you who attempted to knock UF’s schedule in comparison to UGA’s I challenge you to show me more than 4 seasons in the last 20 years in which UGA had a tougher OOC schedule than the Gators did. You can’t so I would refrain from going there.

It’s a lot like those of you who talk smack about the Gators having had 27 player arrest under Meyer EVEN THOUGH UGA has had 36 player arrest in the same time frame.

Old Dawg

May 12th, 2010
12:40 pm

I’ve written this before and I’ll write it countless more times: you simply can’t win every game every season. Every program has ups and downs, regardless of who the coach is. As widely respected as Jo Pa, Bobby Bowden and Tom Osborne were at their programs they struggled win a national championship before the door finally open. Bo Schimbechler (sp) has a following that remains spiritual in Michigan, though he never won a national title and his bowl record is abysmal.

With Richt, UGA has a class act who has a good regular season record, far superior to Dooley’s at the same stage of careers, and a far better bowl record than Dooley.

Would I like Georgia to have a better record against Florida? You bet. Is Saban going to continue to recruit top talent from Georgia and win games? Without question.

Richt will win games and he’ll do it with class. And UGA, its fans and supporters won’t sell their souls to make it happen. If folks can’t understand that statement, they need to look in the mirror and determine the issues that are really important in life.

DLine

May 12th, 2010
12:42 pm

Finebum has been around for a while. Shouldn’t his scalp be turning gray by now?

ltdawgs

May 12th, 2010
12:43 pm

I couldn’t agree more. Mark Richt is the best thing to happen to Georgia Football since Herschel Walker. Yes, the last 2 years have been disappointing and as much as I really respect and like Mark Richt as a football coach and person, THE DAWGS have to get PHYSICAL. Back in the Erk Russel days, noone ran all over our defense. This must be addressed, hopefully will be with the new coach. And Richt needs to add a little more swagger to the guys.

Keep Richt and start tearing down the Gator invincibility. They will not stay on top for much longer.

Hal Bennett

May 12th, 2010
12:43 pm

I wish that someone with the credentials of a Tony Barnhart would not give Paul Finebaum ink, notice, credence — whatever. It never ceases to amaze me when someone with credibility gets on Finebaum’s show. Finebaum seems to know how to polish the apple. Once he has polished it, and as a result someone who actually knows something about football comes on his show, I personally have to reach for the antacids.

As for Finebaum and the state of Alabama, there are, sad to say, a lot of people over here who are taken with the guy. Most of them are wet-behind-the-ears youngsters who obviously buy into his ‘I’m out to correct the racist ills of the past’ mystique. Finebaum works his audience by subtly making every oblique, slanderous point he can about most of us who were here when Bear was. One reason he does this, I think, is that he knows he does not have a handle on the history of Alabama football under Bryant. I would think that this fact would be understood by someone who has written a book on SEC football. I have heard Finebaum make mistake after mistake about football under Bryant.

Part of Finebaum’s method of working his way into the woodwork over here has been his involvement with Pat Dye. Apparently, he also worked himself into the good graces of John Forney (play-by-play announcer during the Bryant era). Pat Dye and Auburn football have profited from what Finebaum has done by having Dye on the radio program. If Dye had never been given radio time by Finebaum, who would have given it to him? Once Dye was able to get on the Finebaum show, he subtly manipulated his outreach by such as saying, “Georgia’s not MAN enough to beat Alabama.” That went out all over two states, and it may have cost Alabama a win over Georgia. It certainly was worth six or seven points for Georgia. Just giving Dye air time has been good for Auburn. Dye knows what he is doing, and he has used Finebaum to do it.

I haven’t tuned Finebaum into my household for quite some time, and I have pretty well kept him off my radio for the past couple of years. I came to the point of asking myself, “What am I going to do with all the days and hours between football seasons?” I decided that listening to Finebaum was just a waste of time. He doesn’t really know the game of football. And his campaign to bring Alabama up to speed culturally is not something I need, personally, in my opinion. He just fills up the hours with stuff.

That would include the appearances of Tim Brando. Tim Brando is an LSU fan from north Louisiana, always has been, always will be. He thought Saban and LSU were going to “dominate the West.” He said that years ago with finality and gusto. But Timmy knows how to play the game. Once Saban was at Tuscaloosa, here Timmy came onto the Finebaum show with that same acid-stomach producing thing that Dye comes on with. It is a subtle game Finebaum plays.

Caliguy57

May 12th, 2010
12:48 pm

I think Coach Miles is one of the best, if not the best, head coach to ever coach at LSU. Sure, he’s made some mistakes. We’re all human. But, LSU fans seem to forget the situation at LSU from 1958 to the beginning of the 90s. Does anyone want to bring LSU down to that level, which is exactly what will happen if Coach Miles leaves or is fired. I believe Coach Miles knows exactly what he did wrong the past two seasons, and he will right the ship. Also, I believe we’ll see a wide-open offense and a dominant defense. Given that LSU came very close to beating both Florida and Alabama last year, any improvement in the team’s performance could lead to very good things that will thrill any LSU fan. I just wish all this negative talk about the program would stop and fans would have the patience to await the beginning of the season before jumping to conclusions. Coach Miles has proven he can take LSU to the top, and I’m willing to give him the time he needs to do it.

gdawginkalamazoo

May 12th, 2010
12:52 pm

Richt on the hot seat? Really? The only hot seat that he may be on is the one in his Ford truck when he leaves the heated seat on in the summer.

Richt will get there regrading the NC I just hope he is at UGA when he does. The man has done a great job so far. He is good for the kids, the school and the program. Sure he has had some rough spots through the years but what coach doesn’t. Richt isn’t that far off so getting rid of him anytime soon would be disastrous for the program. He has made some tough moves and I get the feeling that he won’t be afraid to make the tough moves quicker in the future. Thanks coach and keep up the good work!

My 2 Cents

May 12th, 2010
12:59 pm

Richt has Georgia going in the right direction, alright. Downward.

college is forever

May 12th, 2010
1:03 pm

http://collegelunchboxes.com Coach Richt is the heart and soul of UGA football, check out the classic tin lunchbox great for Fathers Day. Go Dawgs!!!

DawginLex

May 12th, 2010
1:09 pm

Take your 2 cents and go back to the nerd blog.

johnson

May 12th, 2010
1:12 pm

last years LSU record was 9-4, just where it should have been with lucky wins against GA, Ark, and MsSt. But losses to Ole Miss and Bama that they could have won. Then another close bad loss in bowl game to PSU. Miles will be on the hot seat, but will not get more than 9-4 out of this LSU team this year. Depending on who those 4 losses are to will tell if he stays or goes.
Richt should be just as worried as his team didnt even compete in some of UGA losses.

fair and Balanced

May 12th, 2010
1:13 pm

CMR said that he would do anything to correct whatever is wrong in the program. I believe him.

Johnny Devereaux

May 12th, 2010
1:15 pm

LSU has come closer to beating Bama and UF the past 2 years than UGA has. Nuff said.

Realistic Bama Fan

May 12th, 2010
1:16 pm

Look. If Richt goes 7-5 he is out. I think he will go more like 8-4 or 9-3, and survive but the ways he loses games will matter. Georgia cannot get blown out by Tn and Florida again. He can lose to tech has long as its not blow out. The blow out losses hurt. The blown games to lesser opponents ala ky hurts.

As for Les Miles, if he loses to Bama again he is in trouble.

SaintsLSU

May 12th, 2010
1:16 pm

You tell him Jumbeaux, good post

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Russ, the Temporary Mascot

May 12th, 2010
1:24 pm

Let me tell you about a hot seat. You don’t know what a hot seat is. A hot seat is what you get when somebody has painted your a$$ and you have to sit in a pan of thinner to try and get the paint off. That thinner burns and burns and burns and that’s what I call a hot seat. Richt should be on the hot seat and so should anyone that would paint a little dog’s a$$.

Johnny Devereaux

May 12th, 2010
1:24 pm

Patrick Peterson said the Julio Jones TD from last year while he was cramping up on the sideline still haunts him to this day. Julio will go catchless agianst LSU next season. Count on it!

Pago Pago Dawg

May 12th, 2010
1:24 pm

The DAWGS always have a Top Ten recruiting class…but…nothing ever happens. Oh they way, Miles will be at The Big House next year.

DAWG258

May 12th, 2010
1:27 pm

Dawgs will win the SEC in 2010. Book it!
Bama fan be greatful Colt came out the game or you would’ve been down 14-0 and probably lost the game. with that call on the kickoff you aren’t what you think you are! But you hold the crystal so you have the spot!
Gator fan please look at what happened after the 1 recruiting class the basketball team had left, you now see what your future holds. there is no more cupcake schedule and you will lose 4 games this season; welcome back to reality. Your coach will have to earn respect from this point and by next year im sure the word that will follow him will be OVER RATED! remember anyone can beat OSU. be thankful that 3 teams lost to let you in. We all saw with No Dan Mullen your offense isnt good and now we will see without Charlie Strong your Defense wont be either
UT is laughable
GT is a joke

Go DAWGS! GATA !

Finescum Sux

May 12th, 2010
1:29 pm

I stop reading when he said Finescum was his friend. enough said. Im done with Tommy.

jumbeauxtiger

May 12th, 2010
1:31 pm

Thanks SaintsLSU.

Johnny D, both are great players and each are going to make plays, even against each other.

Unfortunately for both Tide and Tiger fans, I believe both will be playing on Sundays in 2011.

oledawg

May 12th, 2010
1:32 pm

My understanding has been that Finebaum has no following and writes junk to get clicks. Saying he has credibility would be like saying you are Mr College Football. And we know that the record goes against both. All you have to do nowadays is just honk your own horn and make outrageous claims. I think that the two of you fit together nicely and it’s good you are claiming him as your friend since neither of you have one.

Cleveland Tiger

May 12th, 2010
1:37 pm

All you Georgia fans forget that Richt coached teams lead the nation in felonies! Great leadership of the dawg nation and great evaluator of young men!

Keep CMR and keep that fine product!

5IML

May 12th, 2010
1:38 pm

Firing Richt would be the worst move UGA could make. He is a consistent winner. Like everyone, Florida will have a few down years and UGA will beat them. And, if, like Dooley, Richt can luck up on a once-in-a-lifetime talent like Herschel, he will win a NC. Be patient.

HOUDAWG

May 12th, 2010
1:39 pm

Tony ….. you nailed it. Couldn’t agree more …….. seems those LSU folks here just can’t handle facts & truth !

GoldenDawg

May 12th, 2010
1:40 pm

Finebaum is an idiot. He has the worst sport show I have ever heard. Half the time they only talk about alabama politics. The other half is bama and auburn fans yelling at each other. The only people I know that are saying CR is on the hot seat are fans of other schools.

5IML

May 12th, 2010
1:40 pm

dawg258 is very bitter and lashing out at the world. That’s pretty funny.

Tide Rising

May 12th, 2010
1:46 pm

Jumbeauxtiger,

I’m not a Les Miles fan for the simple reason that I dislike some of the really dumb comments he’s made in the past such as F$#k Alabama and some comments he made about Bob Stoops when he was at Ok State. But I don’t disagree with his skill as a coach and I think there’s always going to be some bandwagon folks that criticize for the sake of it.

Miles gets a lot of flack over the td call against AU in which only 1 second was left. Still he gets criticism for it even though LSU won because of the call. The reality is that replay shows that there really should have been an extra second or two after the catch. The clock keeper was just slow in stopping the clock. Much ado about nothing.

Then a lot of fans criticized him for all the 4th down gambits in several games in 07, most notably the Florida game. I watched those games and the situation in each and every 4th down attempt called for LSU to go for it. Especially considering they had the momentum, the off. line, and a power back like Hester, and in nearly every case it was 4th and 1 or less. He would have been dumb to punt yet people question his play calling even though he won that UF game by being aggressive.

Last, he and the coaching staff do deserve some blame for squandering the Ole Miss game with poor clock management. But doesn’t Jefferson deserve some blame. Can’t nobody make me believe that like other teams that LSU hasn’t practiced the 2 minute offense over and over. I don’t think much of Jefferson as a qb and quite frankly I think he deserves a lot of the blame. Miles was just doing the right thing in accepting responsibility and not putting it off on his young qb.

In any event I may not like some of the things he’s said but as far as coaching goes he’s done a decent job and when they do lose big games they lose but they don’t get blown out. And one last thing. He runs a disciplined program. You never hear about LSU players getting arrested left and right and embarrassing the institution. I think this should count a lot more in how we evaluate coaches than simply their win/loss records.

f u c k Bubba Richt

May 12th, 2010
1:47 pm

Stupid ase Richt is the reason we have been so awful. Top 5 recruiting and shameful endings. Im not going to watch the Dogs this year. I wont waste my time. Richt should have been long gone! time to rebuild. Now!

harold

May 12th, 2010
1:48 pm

GEORGIA IS AVERAGE FOOTBALL TEAM AND RICHT AN AVERAGE COACH. ALABAMA AND SABAN AND MEYER AND FLORIDA ARE CHAMPIONSHIP PROGRAMS WITH CHAMPIONSHIP COACHES. RICHT IS A NICE GUY THOUGH!

Typical Gator Fan

May 12th, 2010
1:49 pm

I say stuff like nuff said to let people know I’ve proved my point. Work ‘em, Silly Gators!!!

mike

May 12th, 2010
1:51 pm

We’ve seen the best Richt has to offer. It’s good, but not great.

buckblue

May 12th, 2010
1:53 pm

CMR is the Lord of No Rings
Les had a BCS Ring…..

next question….

athensdawg

May 12th, 2010
1:53 pm

The only man in athens whose seat is hot is Mike Bobo.

f u c k Bubba Richt

May 12th, 2010
1:53 pm

The f u c k ing program is already disastrous!

fair and Balanced

May 12th, 2010
1:13 pm

CMR said that he would do anything to correct whatever is wrong in the program. I believe him.

THEN WHY DID HE NOT RESIGN?

Tide Rising

May 12th, 2010
1:56 pm

Dawg258,

Dude you really do have some anger going on there. I’m glad we can automatically book UGA as the 2010 SEC champions. I figured they would be good and would have a shot just like everyone else but I didn’t realize the dogs had already won the sec in 2010. No sense in the rest of us playing now that its been booked.

I am curious about where you see Florida losing 4 games for certain. Exactly where do you see them losing 4 games and why?

Chip

May 12th, 2010
1:59 pm

I heard from the Rivals LSU guy that this will be the 1st year that the overall high school talent base will recover from Katrina. The type of player that Saban recruited from Louisiana now livers in Houston, Memphis or somewhere else. Its not a comparable situation. That being said, Miles needs to get his act together but in 2 years he will have them back.

Tide Rising

May 12th, 2010
2:04 pm

Johnny Deverauex,

Not so fast Johnny. Patrick Peterson got the better of their battle this past year but Julio was also playing pretty hurt by the 10th game. He had a hurt knee in that game on top of a sports hernia that had been bothering him and wasn’t anywhere near 100%. After the season he had 3 separate surgeries to repair the wrist, sports hernia, etc. injuries.

You forget that in their freshman year that a healthy Julio whipped him bad. Seems he dragged Patrick all over the field and on one play Julio caught the ball at the 9 and carried Patrick on his back down to the 1. If Julio is healthy this year he’s gonna take Patrick for a few more piggy back rides again!

shannon

May 12th, 2010
2:04 pm

Mark Richt has earned the right to be at UGA almost as long as he likes. He has not forgot how to coach. Am I dissappointed at some of the performances ove the last couple of years, sure I am. that being said how many SEC titles did UGA win before Richt arrived. I am glad about Grantham is here!!! GO DAWGS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Settle

May 12th, 2010
2:04 pm

UGA football is about underachievement and accepting B+ status. The program ranks in the top 10 with it’s recruiting pool, money generated, and players drafted to the NFL. Every other program in those top 10 rankings has accomplished significantly more than UGA in the last 20 years. Richt’s teams look increasingly sloppy and his record against Florida is pathetic. Yet because so many don’t carry high standards his job isn’t in real jeopardy.

Georgiadawg70

May 12th, 2010
2:07 pm

If CMR goes seven and five and is humiliated in Jacksonville again, which he will, he won’t be around anothr year. The powers that be have lost confidence in him.

GO HEELS

May 12th, 2010
2:08 pm

I tell you one thing (SEC) fans and (Les Miles) fans he wont be around to long then… LSU is going to drop thier first game and maybe not score against my Tarheels…. Read a post earlier reading that Miles can only afford to lose to Fla and Bama…. If thats the case good bye Miles….

typical dog fan says

May 12th, 2010
2:08 pm

Tide Rising,

Dont you know Tim Tebow left so the Gators will lose to UGA and a bunch of other nobodies. By Tebow leaving UGA players have automatically gotten better and Richt is now the greatest coach on earth.

Dont you know Urban Meyer without Tebow or Strong or Mullen is just a Ray Goff with rings. He’s off to Notre Dame the first chance he gets, err he wont even be coaching UF in 2010, err he’s a jerk booo.

The University of Georgia Tech

May 12th, 2010
2:11 pm

sad that redneck-think-they-know-it-all-fans who never even attended uga have their unrealistic dreams of the uga 1980 team happening every year are trying to run out a GREAT coach and GREAT man(yes that matters!). I wish uga fans took their basketball this serious because if they did tubby smith would still be here with all kinds of success and you would have a real athletic department like your hated foes- university of florida. now go back and hunker dwon or whatever it is you necks say

kgator79

May 12th, 2010
2:12 pm

Really LSU fans? Katrina? Come on now. At some point you all in Louisiana cant keep blaming everything that happens on a storm that occured 5 years ago, especially the current play of the LSU team. The state of Florida had 3 hurricanes hit them in 2004, maybe FSU and Miami can blame their lack of success on that. LSU has not struggled because of “lack of highschool talent in the state.” They have struggled because Miles is not a good game day coach. Its as simple as that. Look at LSU class rankings the last couple years. They got the talent, despite the Katrina conspiracy theories

Fan-tom

May 12th, 2010
2:18 pm

Now that we’re officially in the off-season, wouldn’t this be the perfect time to take an in-depth look at UGA and have a free-ranging discussion about the problems at UGA and why the arrest rate of players is the highest in the country? it’s common knowledge that UGA is a party school, but have any football players every actually graduated with a real degree? Jan Kemp exposed the school and the coaches almost three decades ago, but there is no sign that anything has improved; if anything, the arrest rate shows that things are getting more outrageous every year while Mark Richt – a decent fellow with no coaching skills – has no clue what to do.

UGA has become a major embarrassment to all Georgians, and we want some answers starting now.

[...] of winning a national title.  The subject of the exact temperature of Miles seat has been fodder for around the SEC media during these dog days of spring.  The criticism has been especially harsh: Now, everyone in [...]

Dorsey Hill

May 12th, 2010
2:21 pm

A question for all of the idiots out there. If you think that firing Richt is a good idea, who would you replace him with and why do you think he’d do better than CMR who is 3rd in the country in winning percentage?

BTW: Don’t look for Saban on the list of highest winning percentages, when he took the Bama job his winning percentage was lower than Ray Goff’s.

Bryant

May 12th, 2010
2:22 pm

Hey guys like Tony says kids read these posts. Two years and UGA will be calling Kirby home for a different job!!

Really?

May 12th, 2010
2:25 pm

You few Tech/Bama people that spend all day posting this crap are pathetic. Stop trying to make it seem like there are a lot of you and get a life.

Tide Rising

May 12th, 2010
2:27 pm

Dorsey Hill,

Saban won’t be on the list of highest winning % for what should be obvious reasons. He coached at Toledo and Mich state before moving to LSU. Toledo is a rather difficult place to win at wouldn’t you agree? As for Mich state they are the little brother to Michigan and take a back seat to Mich, OSU, and half the other teams in the big 10 in recruiting. Not really a fair comparison but you go ahead if it makes you feel better.

jumbeauxtiger

May 12th, 2010
2:36 pm

Tide Rising, the comment by Miles at the event in New Orleans about Bama was in bad taste. Sometimes I believe he speaks before really thinking things through. That’s no excuse and I believe he has learned from that as he has not made any inappropriate comments in some time.

I do agree that Jefferson is partly responsible for the clock debacle in Oxford last season. He doesn’t always make the best decisions as a QB which as you know can cost you a game. Hopefully for our sake he’s matured and will play smarter. If he doesn’t it will be a long season.

Typical Gator Fan

May 12th, 2010
2:36 pm

This IS my life. Really?, I’m afraid I don’t understand your question.

jumbeauxtiger

May 12th, 2010
2:38 pm

GO HEELS

“I tell you one thing (SEC) fans and (Les Miles) fans he wont be around to long then… LSU is going to drop thier first game and maybe not score against my Tarheels….”

Your storied football history has me worried.

Johnny Devereaux

May 12th, 2010
2:43 pm

Tide Rising: PP had the flu all week and was cramping so using the Injury as an excuse doesn’t work. It’s a cop out. I do agree though that JJ got the better of the matchup their freshman year. The play you are referring to was a prefect pass that NOBODY could ever pretend to contest. Julio was just in the right spot and all PP could do was hold on for dear life.

I cannot wait for round 3 of this matchup. I’ll project JJ to grab 2 maybe 3 passes for minimum yardage.

Tide Rising

May 12th, 2010
2:47 pm

Johnny Devereaux,

Round 3 coming up! Hopefully they both will be healthy. I’m projecting Julio for 6 passes and 80 yards receiving and 1 td.

SaintsLSU

May 12th, 2010
2:48 pm

I really hope LSU beats UNC bad. ‘08 CWS – two tough losses including a 9th inning grand slam, ‘09 NCAA Tourney – gave eventual Champion Tarheels a run for their money, but fell short, and finally in ‘10 – we got a chance at revenge in football. This will be a hard fought game. It will be difficult for us to score an NFL talent-laden defense, but their offense isnt exactly a juggernaut either, and our D is tough also.

Tide Rising

May 12th, 2010
2:48 pm

jumbeauxtiger,

“Your storied football program has me worried”. Ouch!!!

Vince

May 12th, 2010
2:51 pm

Let’s see if I get Paul’s point.

Meyer is 0-2 versus Auburn so Meyer, a top 3 most winningest coach, should be fired?

So Richt is 1-4 against Meyer, so Richt, a top 3 most winningest coach, should be fired?

Johnny Devereaux

May 12th, 2010
2:55 pm

Sam Montgomery is going to have more of an impact in the JJ v. PP matchup than either player. If he can rush the passer as well as he has shown this spring, watch out! McElroy wont have much time to stand in the pocket. and anyone who has watched LSU the past couple of years knows that a pass rush has been missed dearly.

Vince

May 12th, 2010
2:55 pm

Since Paul Finebaum won’t give Les Miles credit for his 36-4 record his 1st 3 years, because it was “with someone else’s players”, how about not giving Saban credit for his 1st 4 years, same reason?

But NOOOOO!

TheTruth

May 12th, 2010
2:57 pm

Using Bama to compare Penalties is not fair. After all, the SEC is loaded with nothing but BAMA grads as officials! The SEC will be a joke until they corrects this issue with officiating. GET RID OF THE BAMA GRADS AS OFFICIALS!!!! Please!

Vince

May 12th, 2010
2:57 pm

Saban’s not even in the top 20 for active winning %.

Miles is Miles ahaead of him, and Richt is in the top 5 making his Mark.

http://www.coacheshotseat.com/WinningestActiveCoachesIA.htm

jumbeauxtiger

May 12th, 2010
2:58 pm

Tide Rising

May 12th, 2010
2:48 pm
jumbeauxtiger,

“Your storied football program has me worried”. Ouch!!!

I don’t understand why anyone talks smack when they haven’t won anything. Win something and then you can boast.

Typical Dawg Fan

May 12th, 2010
2:59 pm

We have the nicest coach! He is a man of God. Everyone else’s coach is a dirty, lyin’, cheatin’, devil lovin’ scumbag probably looking to go somewhere else. And now that we have Grantham, we’re gonna win it all! Book it! Lookout Gaytors cause you don’t have Teblow anymore! And your coach Urban Liar is a basket case. We’re gonna beat the Gaytors this year. Book it! Take to the bank! Count on it! WOOF WOOF!

Vince

May 12th, 2010
2:59 pm

Tony and Paul Finebaum:

Mark Richt’s record is 25-2 when Georgia commits 10+ penalties.

So much for those theories that penalities are causing Georgia to lose games.

Not so much.

CrimsonPride

May 12th, 2010
3:03 pm

WE OWN THIS CONFERENCE

Gator Nation

May 12th, 2010
3:04 pm

WE think Mark Richt is an outstanding coach and should get a lifetime contract IMMEDIATELY!

Vince

May 12th, 2010
3:05 pm

Tony and Paul Finnebaum:

No turnovers arn’t the cause of wins and losses.

Let’s look at several top 20 teams in turnover margin from 2009:

National Ranking in turnover Margin:
#2 Air Force- 7-5 record
#5 Ark 7-5
#12 Indiana 4-8
#13 UAB 5-7
#17 S miss 7-5
#19 Army 5-7

So much for those theories that turnover margins lead to wins and losses.

GATORZONE

May 12th, 2010
3:05 pm

Vince, thanks for the link. That was interesting. I wonder if UT regrets firing Fulmer, yet.

Vince

May 12th, 2010
3:06 pm

Scoring margin is what it’s all about.

Football is simple–score more than the other team.

Not turnovers, not penalities, SCORING.

kgator79

May 12th, 2010
3:07 pm

If having only 2 SEC titles in the last 27 years is acceptable for UGA fan as long as their coach ranks in the top 10 in “winning percentage” thats fine with me. Not going to change their minds on that.

Cleveland Steamer

May 12th, 2010
3:09 pm

How bout those Cavs?!

Vince

May 12th, 2010
3:11 pm

Top 5 teams in scoring margin are:
Boise 13-0 record
Texas 12-1
TCU 12-0
Fl 12-1
Bama 13-0

Typical Gator Fan

May 12th, 2010
3:11 pm

I wish Jeremy Foley would give Coach Meyer a lifetime contract or a two year extension, which ever comes first.

Reptiles Rule

May 12th, 2010
3:13 pm

GATORZONE, don’t think that UT regrets firing Fulmer but many regret hiring Kiffin, although you do see a sizeable number of them that thought he (IKiffin) did a “good job”. I have no idea what they are basing that on. He only got embarrased in their last game and then suddenly pulled up and took that scary ol Lane Train right out of town. Set the program back at least 3 years, probably 5.

Typical Gator Fan

May 12th, 2010
3:13 pm

My Gators have a storied college football tradition that will be 20 years old this year. WOW! That’s a long time. Work ‘em, Silly Gators!!!

5IML

May 12th, 2010
3:18 pm

I bet no UGA football fan, player, coach, or administrator would trade a 10-win season average for two national championships in the last nine years. Clearly Richt is better than Saban and Meyer (probably put together). Aren’t statistics great?

BIg Al

May 12th, 2010
3:20 pm

I don’t think the issue with coach Richt is how many games he’s won. It’s how how many BCS Championship games Meyer and Miles have won in half the time. Granted Miles won 1 with talent that wasn’t his but he still won. Richt has had at least 3 great chances to get it done so far and each time he’s come up short. As far as Miles goes, his lack of skill really became obvious last year(Ole’ Miss game). Richt is a good coach who needs to find that missing something to get his team over the hump.

Reptiles Rule

May 12th, 2010
3:22 pm

kgator79…agreed, having a good winning percentage is great but why do you win in the first place? You win so that you can take home the trophy! Being second or third best is a good job but at the end of the day, you’re still the bridesmaid. But based on what you see in alot of marriages today, maybe that’s not such a bad thing!

Bama fan

May 12th, 2010
3:23 pm

Reptiles Rule and Gatorzone,

It wasn’t just that Kiffin embarrassed a fine tradition like UT. He also set them way back personnel wise by the sheer number of players that saw through this phony arse, didn’t want to play for him, and left the program. 11 or more players transferred after he got there. UT was down to 68 scholarship players during the season whereas most programs stay at the max of 85 or 1 or 2 below it. Just another part of his 1 year legacy at UT that it will take UT years to recover from.

Typical Georgia Fan

May 12th, 2010
3:26 pm

Yeah, we own the Gaytors! Just look at the record from only just 80 years ago! Woof…

Pete

May 12th, 2010
3:26 pm

Georgia wins 9-10 games with the schedule and makes a major bowl.They will not win any championship, but will right the ship. Folks that are close to the SEC realize that the coaches brought in are heads and shoulders over the ones we let go.

TonyBFan

May 12th, 2010
3:27 pm

7-5 is not going to cut it in Athens this fall, Tony. Sorry. You are right about the penalties and the turnovers, but it’s more than that. Yes, they beat Tech, but the Gators need a loss in the book via the Dawgs. Tebow’s gone so it’s supposed to be fair game. The off the field crap seems to be better. 7-5 is a winning record, true. That works in the ACC, not in the SEC. Les Miles? He would have been gone last year if they could have afforded his buyout. True?

1eyedJack

May 12th, 2010
3:28 pm

If Mark Richt had been the head coach at FSU the last ten years he would have won one if not two NCs and quite possibly UF would have only won one or none. He would have recruited better than Bobby Bowden and Stafford and Murray would probably have been Seminoles.

Although I believe CMR has done a good job recruiting Georgia he has a propensity to let really good recruits, that he really wanted badly, slip away to UT, UF, FSU, and Miami. (Lot of defensive players especially DBs drafted that hailed from Ga. but did not go to UGA)

Had he been able to sway some of those in-state star recruits to UGA he would have won one if not two NCs here.

I am not sold on the fact that it was Coach Richt as much as the assistants he had assigned to those recruits. Now that some of those guys are gone maybe we can keep more of those blue chippers. CMR has to find a way “to show me some love” better to some of these kids.

GATORZONE

May 12th, 2010
3:29 pm

Cleveland Steamer…

That is classic!!! :)

51ML, that is their tired arguement to a Tee!!!

tyler

May 12th, 2010
3:29 pm

keep making excuses for this loser dawg fans. it seems you people are willing to blame anybody you can for your teams short falls. Saban or Meyer could coach at ga. southern and wear your trashy UGA team out and all of you know it.

BIg Al

May 12th, 2010
3:32 pm

For 5IML, Really?! You really think any of your fans would trade the meaningless wins and 2 SEC title over the past 27 years for 2 National Championships?!! You’re out of your mind…. All that sounds like is excuses as to why UGA hasn’t won a national championship in 30 YEARS!!! It tool you 20 to win the SEC. I like Richt and being a resident of Georgia I pay taxes here so I invariably support his program so I root for him when he’s not playing BAMA. But to say You prefer wins over Rings is simply making excuses as to why UGA hasn’t beat Florida and Tennessee in the same year for 30 years.

Typical Georgia Fan

May 12th, 2010
3:33 pm

Besides, our real rival is Georgia Tech. Not Florida. And at least we don’t have to actually get on a plane ( for a whole hour!) and fly down to steamy hot, hot, hot Jacksonville to play them. Yep, lot’s of harmful UV rays down there, if you don’t believe me look at our coach!

Alabama

May 12th, 2010
3:38 pm

Listen up girls.

This is OUR conference.
Always has been. Always will be.

We run this conference.

Until someone catches us cheating again,
we’re going to keep running this conference.

5IML

May 12th, 2010
3:40 pm

Big Al,

You completely misread and, therefore, misunderstood my post.

Beast from the East

May 12th, 2010
3:40 pm

Tony, your argument is silly. They both have underachieved the last couple of years. I guess you’re saying that Richt is safe because the fan base at UGA doesn’t expect as much as LSU? I don’t buy that. Both had great seasons, both are on the decline. Hopefully, for both of their sakes they can turn it back around.

kgator79

May 12th, 2010
3:43 pm

Has any UGA coach before Richt complained as much as he has about playing in Jacksonville against Florida?

Alphare

May 12th, 2010
3:43 pm

Finebaum is no different from Rush, Sean and so on. They are there to attract an audience, and they would say anything to achieve it.

And they do it with some success. Go figure.

Cleveland Steamer

May 12th, 2010
3:45 pm

Gatorzone,

I’m a Georgia fan. Still think it’s funny? Glad we can both laugh at something.

Dawghater

May 12th, 2010
3:47 pm

Of course CMR does not have anything to worry about, because there is no national championship pressue at UGA. There is not drive to win, nor pressure on the coaches to produce results, thus the article hit the nail on the head.

Winning a few SEC titles is good enough for UGA, however, CMR has lost his constituency and is starting to feel the heat, slightly. I suspect those dumb boosters will give him another contract extension this year, because they know there is no demand for coaches to come to UGA.

Kirby Smart did not even come back to his school for DC, so the booster base is already aware that they could get another Donnan or Goof.

Lee

May 12th, 2010
3:47 pm

Hey Tony,

I always enjoy your articles and insights. Your article is spot on however, I think that Les Miles is in more hot water than your article implies. Not only must he win over UNC, if he loses this year to Alabama at LSU, he’s really played his final LSU card. It is obvious also that he must win the “supposed to win” games. If he fails any of these tests, at best I think, he would simply finish out the season. LSU fans really have high expectations and with good reason – they have one of the most fertile recruiting grounds in the nation. LSU fans also are smart enough to recognize that as their program becomes mediocre, those star recruits begin to take other programs (Florida, Alabama, Texas) more seriously. The case for Les Miles has more hanging in the balance for LSU than just this season.

Again, always enjoy your column and your show.

Lee

Typical Georgia Fan

May 12th, 2010
3:47 pm

Wow, our academic standards are so high! I know about Florida and their ratings but who the hell reads those things anyway? It’s no wonder that they have won mythical championships (to be further noted as such until we win one again)… we just can’t take all of those dumb thug players that Ala and Fla take all the time. Man it’s tough when all your players are freakin’ Rhodes scholars.

Mean Machine

May 12th, 2010
3:47 pm

Aside from the poor discipline the past 2 seasons(on & off the field), what has changed across the landscape of the SEC (that directly affects UGA) since UGA’s last SEC title in 2005?
2005 – Spurrier’s first year at SC
2006 – Meyer takes over at UF
2007 – Saban takes over at Bama
2009 – Kiffin takes over at UT

Clearly, CMR better step up his game if UGA is going to compete for SEC titles. Grantham is going to have to show immediate improvement on defense.

Dawghater

May 12th, 2010
3:48 pm

Until UGA can find a way to get past Florida, there are no national titles in thier near future, so basically, call it a day and be satisfied with 8-4.

Barkley Jones

May 12th, 2010
3:49 pm

Mr Barnhart,
Georgia’s trouble with penalties started with the big one in Jax in 2008. Check it out. Before then, they were just fine. After that celebration penalty, they have been just terrible. Say what you want, but to me it means the football gods are really mad at Richt. Reminds me about the time years ago when on the last day of the season, the Mariners took out a young rookie in the fifth inning and replaces him with randy Johnson. The Mariners were leading big time, and Randy had never had a 20 win season. So they brought him in before the rookie could legally get the win, pitched Johnson 2 innings and everyone else after that no more than 1 inning. Official scorer had no choice but to give Johnson the win, his 20th. After that, Johnson did not win a game in the playoffs, or next season in April. Took quite a while for the baseball gods to forgive him.

Alphare

May 12th, 2010
3:50 pm

I have enormous respect for coach Richt.

But I still have some opinions about the topic:
(1) they both coach in colleges that attract recruits with little recruiting effort
(2) their teams both ranked low while recruiting ranked high

Dawghater

May 12th, 2010
3:51 pm

Miles wants to get fired from LSU, then he can inherit the Michigan program once Rodriquez is fired in 2 years or less. LSU will go about 10-2 and they might get close to a title, but more importantly, Rodriquez will tank the Michigan program and Les will be on his way.

Speaking of tanked, CMR already has one foot out the door on his way back to Miami. Word has it on the street that Randy Shannon could be fired or asked to step down in 2 years or less, opening the door for CMR to return to Miami…a winning program. (5 titles since 1985).

kgator79

May 12th, 2010
3:54 pm

Alabama….while Bama is the current SEC and National champion, your going to have to soon realize this is not the 60s and 70s. No one team runs this conference any more, especially a team who won only 1 SEC title this past decade and 3 total in the last 20 years.

The Kentucky Mildcats

May 12th, 2010
3:55 pm

Are you guys nuts? Man I hope they sign richt to a lifetime contract. We are one lucky Georgia 4th down hail mary pass away from having spanked the dawgs 3 out of the last 4 years. We even ran the dawg fans out of their own stadium last year with the game hanging in the balance midway through the 4th qtr.

Richt is 10-10 in the sec east the last 4 years so I hope he stays for a long, long, long time. Don’t care what he did in the early 2000s. I just know that in the last 4 years the trend is a clear downward trajectory. I hope he will be the dogs coach forevuh!

Alabama

May 12th, 2010
3:59 pm

Hey kgator79:

How do you like my new Aligator shoes.

I picked them up in Atlanta in December.

I plan getting another pair just like these next December.

I’m going to use them to keep kicking everybody’s azz.

The Kentucky Mildcats

May 12th, 2010
3:59 pm

Dawghater,

Why would Michigan take a Les Miles if he is failing in dramatic fashion ever since cycling through Saban’s players? That would be a really dumb move.

Richt to Miami sounds right though but I’m hoping dawgs keep him here forever. In 2 years Shannon will be gone and Richt will also be gone for his inability to beat Florida and win the sec. But Richt will still be seen as a good coach whose only issue was that he was being dominated by Urban. Miami would gladly take him. Besides, where else can the man keep such an awesome sun tan!

Alabama

May 12th, 2010
4:02 pm

Last time we played the candy-azz pretenders from athens

we stepped on their with a hob-nail boot.
we crushed their faces…..by half-time.

DP

May 12th, 2010
4:03 pm

Hey Vince, the combined turnover margin for those 5 was +58. Boise State was +21, Alabama +19, Texas +9, Florida +7, TCU +2. You think turnover margin might have something to do with scoring margin since the average turnover is probably worth 30-40 yards of field position?

Between committing more penalties and turnovers, Georgia probably spotted their opponents something in the neighborhood of 100 yards a game last year. I’m sure that had nothing to do with finishing 8-5.

Alabama

May 12th, 2010
4:05 pm

Well, Look down here.

I got me sh*t covered bulldoggie
stuck to the bottom of my Aligator shoes.

Better go scrape that off.

The Kentucky Mildcats

May 12th, 2010
4:10 pm

Alabama,

Enough with the smack talk. Its fans like you that turn people off about Alabama football.

DP,

Good stats. Funny how turnover margin and scoring margin all correlate together and that the best 5 teams in the nation are all positive in a big way in those numbers.

DP

May 12th, 2010
4:18 pm

Mildcats, I wouldn’t assume “Alabama” is actually an Alabama fan given the number of trolls who post under one handle after another.

9999

May 12th, 2010
4:20 pm

Mean Machine:

Said the exact same thing hours ago,
only to get nothing but spew from GA fans.

Beast from the East

May 12th, 2010
4:21 pm

It’s a shame there are so many childish fools on here that don’t want to talk football….just trying to be the “class clown” or hurl insults at any program other than their own. It’s from several fanbases (UGA, GT, UA, UF, TN). Can’t we just block these “children”?

Beast from the East

May 12th, 2010
4:25 pm

Mean Machine, I think that has more to do with Richt’s lack of success than 95% of the Dagw fan base care to admit. The level of play has gone up in the SEC over the past 5-6 years and he has been slow to react. The DC change should have happened the year before. I expect Richt to get UGA going again. I still think they are one more year away from competing in the East again due to the new defensive scheme and the QB with no experience. They should be very competitive in 2011.

WVMountaineer

May 12th, 2010
4:32 pm

Hi Tony.
Neither one of these guys should have any heat on them.
They are two of the top 20 coaches in the country.

It’s all being pushed by unrealistic fan and alumni expectations.

mt

May 12th, 2010
4:39 pm

Your right about them being in different situations, Miles has won a National Championship and Richt has not. Good reporting Tony!

jumbeauxtiger

May 12th, 2010
4:44 pm

TonyBFan

May 12th, 2010
3:27 pm
“Les Miles? He would have been gone last year if they could have afforded his buyout. True?”

He has a large buyout but LSU can come up with the money. No way he wouldn’t have gotten fired 2 seasons after winning the NC.

However if there is not significant improvement this year he very well may be gone.

Jacob

May 12th, 2010
5:10 pm

Hey Paul Finnebun:

Has Nick Saban ever won a Nationla Champion in less than 4 years, in other words, has he ever won a championship, with his own players?

Greg

May 12th, 2010
5:10 pm

I say that get over your love affair with Urban. Yes, UF has won 2 national Championships but it was more out of luck than talent. One year all 5 teams in front of them had to lose- how often does that happen? the other year the SEC officials helped the cause more than anything. I am not saying they were not a good team- I am just saying Urban is not GOD. That said, yes, UGA needs to kick it up a notch. No excuses for the talent we have had. The total lack of discipline has been the main problem…inmates running the asylmn. Also recruiting- we need to get players that want to be at UGA….want to win. We blew it totally going after stafford…self centered and all about him and ticket to NFL. We have to have coaches that recognize that. we didnt even win the east with Stafford and Knowshon….nuff said….

Jacob

May 12th, 2010
5:12 pm

i mean, didn’t he win his championship at LSU in his 4th year, with someone else’s players?

didn’t Saban win his 2nd championship in his 3rd year at Alabama with someone else’s recruits?

Jacob

May 12th, 2010
5:13 pm

oops, meant to say, has Saban ever won a National championship after his 4th year at a school, with his own recruits?

No, he has not.

Jacob

May 12th, 2010
5:14 pm

Mark Richt has ZEOR HEAT, NADA, HIS SEAT IS IN THE FROZEN TUNDRA SOMEWHERE.

Mark richt is the 3rd most winningest coach in the nation, and unlike Saban, has won 90 games in 9 seasons, at the same school, in the SEC.

Beast from the East

May 12th, 2010
5:20 pm

Greg, the only people I ever see saying Urban is a “GOD” are Dawg fans saying that we Gator fans think he is. We don’t think he is a god. We know he is a damn fine coach. Period.

NoAxeToGrind

May 12th, 2010
5:23 pm

Richt will be kept around this year despite whatever this season’s record may be because of all the Richt lovers and the fact that he is ” a really class act”, but let Urban and UF beat the “you know what” out of him and UGA this year on national TV again and see how far that will get him. Those who say he doesn’t “coach up” good talent may be on to something. At any rate, Mr. Barnhart, Richt’s position may be not quite as secure as you think. I wouldn’t sell Finebaum short on this one.

Jacob

May 12th, 2010
5:27 pm

I’d imagine Paul F doesn’t want to compare the winning % of Richt and Saban, kind of embarrasing how bad Richt beats down Saban there.

And a #2 finish in 2007, and a #3 finish in 2002, was good enough to get into the national championship but didn’t, and both years, just as good as anything Saban’s ever done.

Saban goes 6, 7, or 8 win season, 50% of his coaching years. Richt has NEVER had a 6 or 7 win season.

Jacob

May 12th, 2010
5:28 pm

Ask Saban how many players he has sent to the NFL, and how many Heisman trophy winners he has coached up compare both to Richt, embarrasing for Nick.

Beast from the East

May 12th, 2010
5:32 pm

Jacob, I agree that Richt has a fine overall record. But to say just as good as anything Saban’s ever done is just silly. Saban won a NC at LSU and another at Bama. The one at Bama was a perfect 14-0. Richt, Miles, Spurrier or even Meyer has never done that. I understand your passion, but let’s keep it honest.

Eddie

May 12th, 2010
5:38 pm

I agree Jacob, 13-1 and wining the SEC in 2002 usually gets you in, if your last name is Meyer, so Richt’s had a couple of National Championship years.

Additionally, Richt has coached in 5 National Championships. Many more than Nick Saban will EVER coach in.

Eddie

May 12th, 2010
5:42 pm

Paul Finnebun is actually wrong.

88% of the people AJC polled say Georgia will have a better year than last year, or compete for a championship.

12% agree with naysayer Paul Finnebun.

12% doesn’t make a seat even mildy warm, that would be a very ice cold, seat, somewhere in Alaska.

Here’s the survey:

http://blogs.ajc.com/junkyard-blawg/2010/04/24/is-confidence-high-again-in-the-bulldog-nation/

Beast from the East

May 12th, 2010
5:49 pm

Eddie, do you really think that a poll conducted on the UGA fan base will give an accurate look at what product they put on the field? I’m sure if you polled any SEC team’s fan base they would say that they will be better than last year. The only two exceptions would be Bama (can improve on 14-0) and UT (they know they are in for a rough year). That poll is not by experts….it’s by your own fans!

Eddie

May 12th, 2010
5:52 pm

88% of AJC readers are confident in Richt about next year and see things getting better, not worse.

Eddie

May 12th, 2010
5:54 pm

Richt’s coached in 5 Nationla Championships in 16 years, Saban has coached in 2 in 14 years. His record at Miami was embarrasing too.

Beast from the East

May 12th, 2010
5:57 pm

And what percentage of those polled would you say are UGA fans? I’d say AT LEAST 75%. Listen, I think UGA will be better than last year. My prediction is 9-4 or 10-3 if they really gel. Who knows? They could even go 11-2 with a little luck. My point is that the poll is only a measure of fan’s confidence. If he does indeed fail to improve on last year’s 8-5 record then I’m pretty sure the seat will be HOT!

DP

May 12th, 2010
6:00 pm

“Jacob” and “Eddie” are clearly the same guy pretending to have a conversation and it’s clear that it is the same boob who was bombarding Barnhart’s blog with the same carefully selected stats a week or so ago. What’s the name he was posting under last week?

Yeah, Saban won in his 4th year at LSU with the players of the previous guy who I think went 3-8 in his last year and the guys in Saban’s 2008 recruiting class like Mark Ingram, Julio Jones, Terence Cody, Marcel Dareus and Mark Barron had nothing to do with Alabama’s national championship. It was all Shula’s guys.

What an idiot.

Beast from the East

May 12th, 2010
6:00 pm

Your point about Richt coaching as an assitant in NC games is meaningless. Hell, Charlie Weis and Romeo Cronell coached as assistants in several Super Bowls. Does that make them better coaches than Richt? I think not.

Beast from the East

May 12th, 2010
6:02 pm

DP, you may be right. I’m suspecting Patrick has changed his handle…..again! He is constantly trying to sell everyone on mark Richt. Maybe it’s really Mark’s mother!

Reptiles Rule

May 12th, 2010
6:04 pm

No, Urban is not God…… remember??…Spurrier was. That’s what we used to say anyway, just to hack off opposing fans. Urban is respected and revered in Gainesville and would be welcomed to retire here. Everyone here wants Urban and his family to be healthy and happy with whatever the future holds for him. Hopefully, that future will be him wearing the orange and blue.

DP

May 12th, 2010
6:05 pm

jacob = eddie = pat sulley

and who knows how many others

The tortured stats that are tilted toward Mark Richt and away from Nick Saban, Urban Meyer and anybody else other than Mark Richt are his blogging DNA.

Beast from the East

May 12th, 2010
6:09 pm

Enter your comments here

DP

May 12th, 2010
6:12 pm

Hey pat/eddie/jacob, don’t forget that according to the most delusional of Dawg Nation, Grantham has tutored Saban’s defenses in the offseason so under your accounting methods Grantham should probably be able to claim 2 national championships as well. And I think he knows Bill Belichick so he probably should be credited with 3 Super Bowl rings. No, make that 5 Super Bowl rings because Belichick was an assistant coach for Parcells in 2 Super Bowl wins and by extension Grantham gets a piece of those as well. So that’s what, a combined 15 or 20 BCS championships and Super Bowls for Richt/Grantham versus 2 for Saban?

Judd

May 12th, 2010
6:21 pm

DP = bEAST FROM THE eAST = NOAXETOGRIND = PAT

Sorry those facts didn’t suit you. Go back to your hypothetical world and make up your own reality.

Ken

May 12th, 2010
6:27 pm

Judd-

I agree, some of these folks just like to make mindless conjecture, they don’t like cold hard evidence that proves their hypothesis’ are wrong.

I agree with you, I like some facts, especially when someone like Mr. Paul F is involved.

Any reasonable person would agree more with Jacob & Eddie, than Beat or DP.

Fun Dunn

May 12th, 2010
6:31 pm

Judd, you are the man. The only people on this blog that are rational, DP accuses of being delusional, how’s that for rational, What a loon!

Buster

May 12th, 2010
6:33 pm

DP-

Your blatantly anti-Georgia posts are the biggest waste of time on this blog. Are you related to Paul?

kgator79

May 12th, 2010
6:36 pm

Gotta love the UGA fan who cries that UF won two national titles with Meyer only on luck and not talent….all I have to say is, look at the NFL draft. Then again this is coming from UGA fan whose two best teams in the last 27 years (2002 and 2005) STILL couldnt beat Florida with UF having first year coaches both those years. Guess I’d be bitter toward Florida too.

Dan the Man with the Plan

May 12th, 2010
6:36 pm

Jacob-

your 5:12 post, best I’ve read this year. Bet ole Paul didn’t want to hear that, eh?

GO HEELS

May 12th, 2010
6:37 pm

JUMBEAUXTIGER…… IM BEGINING TO QUESTION YOUR FOOTBALL KNOWLEDGE???? LSU WILL BE FACEING THE BEST DEFENSE THAT WILL SEE ALL YEAR…..

9 UNC players projected to get drafted…. 4 first rounders and all from defense 6 from the defense in total….

LSU wont get over 150 yds in this game trust me

Buster

May 12th, 2010
6:39 pm

Here come the Gator guys again–ok, like so many of us keep asking, how many championships has Meyer won without Percy Harvin on the team if he’s not lucky? Didn’t Percy win the NFL Rookie of the Year. Percy might have had a little something to do with those 2 National Championships of Meyer. Didn’t do one last year without Percy now, did he boys?

kgator79

May 12th, 2010
6:46 pm

First off, its sweet that UGA fan refers to FSU’s past glory in order to prop up their own. Secondly, you really want to claim apperances by a school who lost more than they won and were only in those games because they played in a joke of a conference, the ACC? Thats the beauty of being a Gator fan. We dont have to reference other schools glory. UF has played in 4 National title games in 15 years, winning 3 of them. Nearly 1/3 of the title games over that period, UF as been playing in. Whats next, UGA fan going to reference Miami and their titles since Richt went to school there?

kgator79

May 12th, 2010
6:47 pm

Buster…Meyer has won 1 SEC title without Percy. Next question..

Buster

May 12th, 2010
6:48 pm

I said how many National Championships has Urban Meyer won without Percy Harvin on his team?

Ken

May 12th, 2010
6:52 pm

KGator accuses a Georgia fan of using past history, and mentions going back 15 years in previous post. Problem there?

Amazing Rico

May 12th, 2010
6:54 pm

Perception is reality and the perception among the “great unwashed” is that UGA is in a tail spin. Fortunately for Richt, the great unwashed do not sign his check so I agree with you TB, Richt is safe for now. I would say Richt has this season and next to put a winner on the field, or he will need to be hiring a moving company.

kgator79

May 12th, 2010
6:54 pm

Ken….no i refered to UGA fan using past history of ANOTHER SCHOOL! In order to talk about their own

tyler

May 12th, 2010
6:56 pm

to Jacob and the rest of you people that are so smart and think UGA is so awesome, you can hate on Saban and Meyer all you want but you would dump that loser coach tomorrow if you thought either one wanted to take over at your middle of the pac program

kgator79

May 12th, 2010
7:01 pm

Man Buster you got us there….an even more startling stat is Meyer has won ZERO national titles without James Smith on the team (UFs long snapper) or Javier Estopinan, their backup DT or Bobby Kane the backup punter. If only we could get the past glory of those players back to win again.

tyler

May 12th, 2010
7:01 pm

so Buster what you are saying is that Percy Harvin is better than your entire team? lol this is so funny

BeatBamr

May 12th, 2010
7:03 pm

1st Finebaum dresses in his wife’s clothes. 2nd, Mike Slive, SEC commissioner should just tell us whose going to win what games. Everybody research Dick Burleson, Alabama homer in the replay booth, “SEC Communicator”. Screw college football.

Beast from the East

May 12th, 2010
7:15 pm

Guys, “Buster” is Patrick. No one, and I mean NO ONE spills all that garbage but him. Some left coast truck driver with lots of time on his hands apparently. You really can’t argue with him because he’s never been wrong in his life and he has all the stats to prove it. He and Richt are simply flawless.

Dawgbreath

May 12th, 2010
7:17 pm

I’m afraid Richt’s quality of life will begin to suffer on the way home from Columbia in Sept. Sigh…

Tide Rising

May 12th, 2010
7:38 pm

Well, I come back to read some more comments after several hours and see the SOS and wonder when some of you dog fans are gonna learn. What is it with some of you dawg fans who think Florida winnng their 2 national titles or LSU winning their 2007 title is just luck? That kinda logic is just bizarre.

Georgia had great seasons in 02 and 05 but lost a game in each of those seasons while 2 really good undefeated teams played in each of those years. In 2002 it was Ohio St. becoming the first 14-0 team by beating defending champ Miami which was on a 20something game winning streak. In 05 it was 2 of the greatest teams I’ve ever seen unbeaten USC with Reggie Bush and unbeaten Texas with Vince Young. In each of those years 2 unbeaten teams that were clearly better than once beaten UGA duked it out for the national title. Georgia wasn’t unlucky. There were just better teams ahead of them.

In years where Florida won in 06 and 08 and LSU in 07 did they need someone to lose ahead of them to get into the big game? Yes. Of course. So what? That’s not luck. All it means is that over the length of an entire season which includes the last week as well as the preceding weeks that a 1 loss Florida team was better going by the bcs formula than other 1 loss teams. Same with LSU in 07. And a loss at the end of the season eliminates teams just as a loss at the beginning or halfway through may eliminate other teams.

And I don’t want to hear any crap about Georgia getting jobbed in 07. LSU lost 2 double OT games on the road to bowl teams. They whipped the # 4 team in the country VT 48-7 ooc and they beat UT by 10 in the seccg and did it with a backup qb. UGA lost at home to a team that didn’t even go bowling, did not have a quality ooc win like LSU did over VT, and got blown out 35-7 by UT. Championship teams may lose a game but championship teams do not get BLOWN OUT! End of story.

The stars may yet align one day and Georgia win a national title. But whining about other teams national titles and saying they just got lucky and you were unlucky is just plain pathetic. It is the mentality of a freaking loooooser. Get over it dog fans and start concentrating on Richt righting the ship as opposed to whining about Florida or LSU getting lucky when they won titles. Good thing we went 13-0 and 14-0 for our last 2 titles or else you would be bit$ching about us being lucky too.

Tide Rising

May 12th, 2010
7:48 pm

Kgator79,

Nick Saban has never won a national title at Alabama without Tyrone King. Who is he? A walk on backup safety who played sparingly this past year. I guess we’re doomed now going by Patrick’s logic.

jumbeauxtiger

May 12th, 2010
8:24 pm

GO HEELS

May 12th, 2010
6:37 pm
JUMBEAUXTIGER…… IM BEGINING TO QUESTION YOUR FOOTBALL KNOWLEDGE???? LSU WILL BE FACEING THE BEST DEFENSE THAT WILL SEE ALL YEAR…..

Since we play Bama and Florida this year your statement apparently shows your knowledge.

BTW brush up on your grammar :)

Gen Neyland

May 12th, 2010
8:29 pm

CMR was hired on because Donnan couldn’t beat Tennessee. CMR changed that but the tide is turning on ol’ St Mark…The bar is higher for CLM for one huge, Crystal Football clear reason : The fabled High Expectations. CMR’s fate would be sealed if and (when?) he brings one home. It’s the kiss of death…

GBO

May 12th, 2010
8:34 pm

I’m a Vol (and no I did not like Lane Kiffin either but he did kick GA’s backside and almost took down the Tide). I just want to agree with what Tide Rising said at 7:38 about NC’s teams not getting blown out. The Vols kicked the Dawgs all over the field in 2007 and I read countless blog posts about how the Dawgs were cheated out of the NC when they didn’t even win the SEC East, much less the conference. Just wanted to cosign Tide Rising even if we do hate each other in October.

Gen Neyland

May 12th, 2010
8:41 pm

GBO : I liked Kiffin. I bought in to his renegade style as did the players. No, he didn’t quite walk the walk but had he stayed around for a decade, who knows..? Alas, he’s hanging with the sun bleached blonde surfer chicks nowadays and here’s to hoping USC gets their arse handed to them by the NCAA…Of course, here’s to hoping Tennessee gets a pass and the trail follows Kiffin…

www.brian-dodd.com

May 12th, 2010
8:44 pm

Tony,

I completely agree with your article. In addition to his recent record, Miles’ end of game decision making unnecessarily makes for some of the most compelling moments each year in the SEC.

Also, you cannot discount the state Richt coaches in. Georgia is as Christian a state and conservative as they come. He embodies all we want in leadership and an example for both young and older men.

Fans in Georgia want to win. However, because of a balanced perspective and many options for their time, they are not rabid about it. Just ask the Braves, Falcons, or Hawks.

Richt represents the best of the state of Georgia. Miles represents a Michigan man who is undisciplined and underachieving. As you stated, they are not in the same situation at all.

http://www.Brian-Dodd.com

Tom

May 12th, 2010
8:44 pm

Come on, are you Florida fans SERIOUSLY saying having Percy Harvin, who won the NFL Rookie of the Year, didn’t have a TON to do with why Meyer won his 2 championships? Especially considering how poorly Meyer’s team performed in the Sec Championship without Harvin last season—and for the 2009 season the team scored almost a td less per game than the previous year 2008 with Harvin. Of course Meyer was lucky, and of course Richt’s was unlucky in 2007, but that’s the way it goes. If Richt keeps winning that many games, he’ll have a lucky season or two too.

Tide Rising

May 12th, 2010
8:52 pm

Tom,

They beat us in the 2008 seccg without Percy Harvin. And to say they wouldn’t have won the bcs title game without him is like saying the Pats would never have won a super bowl without Tom Brady or the 49ers wouldn’t have won their super bowls without Joe Montana or Jerry Rice. Or Georgia wouldn’t have beaten Florida in 07 without Matt Stafford. See how silly it gets when you play if if if. Harvin was an instrumental part of their team but as I can personally attest they were still able to be a great team and win big games without him.

GBO

May 12th, 2010
8:56 pm

Hi General,

I bought in to his abilities, just was tire of having to defend his antics all the time. My first choice would have been Brian Kelly but he turned out about he same with that jump to ND :-) I’ve been out of the country for the last three months, do we have any chance this fall of going 7-5 or better?

Tom

May 12th, 2010
8:56 pm

It’s so easy to prove me wrong, all Meyer has to do is win 1 national championship without percy harvin on his team.

Tom

May 12th, 2010
8:59 pm

Harvin was more than a small part of his team. He got 17 td’s, and over 100 yards a game. He was also great in the red zone, without him, Florida wasn’t and won’t ever be the same. Meyer got the Michael Jordan of college football–wait, did MJ get rookie of the year? Maybe Harvin’s BETTER than MJ so far.

GBO

May 12th, 2010
9:09 pm

You all can play the “what if” game all you want. yes some of the teams had a better “hand” sometimes than others…that is true in life, poker, and football. So what? It takes skill, coaching AND luck to win the NC. One can cry about how Florida State had the easiest path in the old ACC, injury wise, to the NC playing in a baskeball conference when half of the SEC’s players were on crutches at the end of the season. Was it fair…no. Life isn’t fair, get over it.

Tide Rising

May 12th, 2010
9:21 pm

Tom,

That’s like saying Georgia never won a national championship without Herschel Walker. Well guess what. Herschel was part of the Georgia team in the same way that Harvin was part of the Florida team. It is what it is and you can’t take that away. But Florida was still impressive without him going 13-1 last year and finishing 2nd or 3rd in the country. And odds are pretty good they’ll be a force without him this coming year.

One other thing about Meyer. He built a never done nothing Utah program into a bcs bowl winning team. Anyone who can go to a never won a single thing program like Utah and build it into a top 5, bcs bowl winning team with clout is one helluva coach in my book.

Beast from the East

May 12th, 2010
9:33 pm

Guys, I’m telling you that’s Patrick. He changes his name to get someone to argue with him.

Reptiles Rule

May 12th, 2010
9:42 pm

Hey Buster, how many National Championships has Richt won at UGA without Willie Martinez as his DC?? Oh, I’m sorry, that’s right…Mark Richt hasn’t won ANY national championships, mythical or otherwise….

Gen Neyland

May 12th, 2010
9:44 pm

Tide Rising : You are correct about Meyer at Utah, but by doing so puts Meyer on the same pedestal as, say Donnan, Saban, Shula and Zook as far as what they left behind when they left what they started. Ron McBride was the true retooler at Utah, not Meyer. At least Fulmer did it on his own in his own years.

GBO : A friend of ours has a son at Tennessee. He’s a rising 4th year guy that was recruited by Cutcliffe. That in itself paints the turnover picture Atop Rocky.

Willis Z-Style

May 12th, 2010
9:48 pm

Tony-

Good article here. Miles & Richt, Georgia, won more games than Saban, Paul’s point? YEAH, if these 2 coaches gone, easier for on Saban in SEC, but, yhey just no reaosn for firing these 2 coaches.

Reptiles Rule

May 12th, 2010
9:56 pm

That’s what absolutely amazes me about Dawg fans and they are the the only ones I’ve seen do this consistantly. Instead of looking at their own team and saying “what was the problem, why didn’t we get it done?…Instead they say, “aww shucks, the other team was lucky and this happened and that happened and that’s the only reason they have success and why we can’t get to the top.” Or they’ll say, “the only reason you won is because of Tebow or Percy Harvin. Uh, well yes, they were part of the team weren’t they? I will assure you, next year they will talking like…”well the only reason you won was John Brantley. Just wait till HE’S gone!”

Slim Daddy

May 12th, 2010
9:56 pm

Percy does hav skilz. 2 rings, and da rookie of da year, who else has done dat?

Antoine

May 12th, 2010
10:03 pm

Coach Nick Saban did real good in 2009. 13-0, hard to do. beat some real good teams. didn’t have no superstars. the dude can most definately coach. jury out on Meyer. Percy Harvin was da’ man, brought serious game.

Gen Neyland

May 12th, 2010
10:08 pm

Slim Daddy : Really, taking nothing away from Harvin here, but he owes his rookie season to Favre and his supporting WR’s, RB’s and ST guys for freeing him up…

Tide Rising

May 12th, 2010
10:09 pm

Reptiles Rule,

9;42 post was pretty funny. On a more serious note you said that if you win it all with John Brantley that they will be saying the only reason you won it was John Brantley. Well, I don’t think you’ll win it with Brantley. I know this for a fact because the dawg fans told me so. I’ve been advised by many a dawg fans that he sucks really bad. I verified this personally with Patrick Sulley on his facebook page. He doubles between truck driving and being a pro scout you see. Not to mention football historian extraordinaire. On top of being a world renowned statistician with his plethora of stats and all.

gcs

May 12th, 2010
10:11 pm

When Les Miles won his National Championship at LSU, many said he won with Saban’s players (and let’s face it, he got REAL lucky in a lot of those wins with some CRAZY play calling). Back then, Tigers fans were calling these naysayers “haters”. But now those fans are starting to believe. If you read their forums – particularly tigerdroppings – they are not happy and have not been for some time. LSU is not landing big time recruits but have stayed afloat thanks to talent-rich Louisiana. Miles’ clock mismanagement in the Ole Miss game can only be blamed on bad coaching. With bad coaching & tepid recruiting, what’s left?

Mark Richt is definitely a different story. The numbers you shared tell two stories. Yes, he has won games but he has also loss games. To win a National Championship, you can’t do that second one. In the past seven seasons, Richt has lost at least 2 SEC games. That is a fine accomplishment but it won’t get you to the BCS National Championship in January 2011.
If you want winning seasons, Richt is your man. If you want to get to a bowl game every year – which is not such a big accomplishment anymore – Richt is your man. He will win 8-9-10 games every year, but he cannot win any more than that. If you want mediocrity, stick with Richt.

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Greg

May 12th, 2010
10:14 pm

So let get this strsaight. a truck driver blogs all the time while he’s driving? You’re joking, right? How is that possible? wuldn’t he wreck?

L D King

May 12th, 2010
10:19 pm

Saban with his players
2002 8-5 2003 13-1 BCSNC 2004 9-3
Miles with Saban’s players
2005 11-2 2006 11-2 2007 12-2 BCSNC
Fact: Miles did better with Saban’s players than Saban

Slim Daddy

May 12th, 2010
10:19 pm

2 rings, and da rookie of the year n da nfl, who else has 2 college rings, and won rookie of the year in the nfl? small list. Percy great as there’s ever been. Props to Percy.

Gen Neyland

May 12th, 2010
10:21 pm

Gotta hit the hay, but one question to ponder on my way to the hay ol’ friends : Why the begrudgings on Mr CFB’s site with the Dawg supporters..? Go to the Junkyard Blawg if you really want to raise some hackles…see ya later Alligator, after while Red Elephants

Tony

May 12th, 2010
10:23 pm

I tend to disagree with your analysis of this situation. Not only are the situations eerily similar, but I think you understate the problems that Richt and Georgia are facing.

Both Miles and Richt are coaches that rely on their coordinators to be successful. And both have had poor defensive coordinators over the last two years. Both have addressed this issue (Miles successfully with Chavis and Richt TBD).

And while the LSU fanbase/boosters are more demanding than Georgia’s, LSU has not seen the slip in recruiting that Georgia has seen. Miles has been able to consistently land top recruiting classes while Richt has seen Tennessee and Auburn challenge them over the last 2 years. Quietly, Richt is running out of time in Georgia.

Inked Tat

May 12th, 2010
10:30 pm

Saban and Miles like to get in, work with someone else’s recruits, and leave in 4 years or less, usually after a good year. Very Pertino-esque in that way. Use em and leave em’. Petrino left the Falcons mid-season with a goodbye note. Saban left Miami high and dry. Meyer left utes fans angry as they felt lied to.

If crimes happen, or losses, they can say “those were coach x’s recruits”. Meyer does that. Using this plan, you don’t have to be accountable.

You can come in when the talent is there and leave before the talent will be gone.

Coach Richt on the other hand, has been in the SAME PLACE, for 9 years. He takes the heat for arrests, and he’s accountable for his own recruits. Saban ain’t never won a National Championship with his own recruits.

Compare length of tenures and conferences if you want to compare apples and oranges. Georgia and the SEC isn’t Mich St. or Utah.

Tide Rising

May 12th, 2010
10:48 pm

Inked Tat,

Saban never won a title with his own recruits? What the hell are you talking about? He won the national title at LSU in his 4th year so the freshman through the seniors were all his.

At Alabama he won it his 3rd year and so the freshman through the juniors are his. And all of the impact players on the 2009 team such as mark ingram, julio jones, mark barron, trent richardson, marcel dareus, courtney upshaw, nico johnson, Colin Peek, those are all Saban’s recruits. Not sure what planet you’re living on.

As for length of tenure Meyer going to Florida and Saban from Mich state to LSU are natural job promotions. The jobs they took at UF and LSU paid huge amounts of money more than where they were at. Not to mention that recruiting was better.

And as far as Meyer goes he came to UF in 2005 so on the 2008 title team the freshman through juniors on that team were all his recruits. Tim Tebow and Percy Harvin, Brandon Spikes, those were all Urban’s recruits.

So much for your ill informed idea that they won with other coach’s recruits. Its pretty obvious that you just don’t know what the hell you are talking about in terms of Saban and Meyer winning with other people’s recruits.

Tide Rising

May 12th, 2010
10:50 pm

Correction. Meyer came to Uf in 2005 so if he won the title at Florida in 08 then that means the freshman all the way through the seniors were all his. So much for ink tat’s crazy idea of Meyer winning with someone else’s recruits.

kgator79

May 12th, 2010
11:03 pm

Tide Rising…Its fans of schools who cant win a national title who want to try and make it a tainted picture for those schools who do. As a Gator fan I do not care how Meyer won his. If its with his recruits, without his own recruits. All counts the same for me.

GO HEELS

May 12th, 2010
11:08 pm

jambeauxtiger?????? Do you live in a cave??or even have basic cable our defense is being compared to the USC defense that they had in 2008 JUST WATCH COLLEGE FOOTBALL LIVE?? Bama returns 3 starters from last years NATONAL CHAMPIONSHIP defense…

the gators have to replace joe haden and major wright in the secondary with only one returning starting LB…. who wasnt very impressive to begin with….

Do u you really think those two teams d are better then UNC’s defense who returns 9 starters, 7 being SR and are ranked in the top 25 in every defensive stat??? If so you really have a low football IQ my friend…. u would think a SEC fan would have more common since then that????

kgator79

May 12th, 2010
11:16 pm

For all those UGA fans who are deeply concerned with what UF will field in 2010, here is a youtube video for you. Take note of the highlights of returning players in semi big games like oh National title, SEC title games ect. Even though they are such an inexperienced group.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ExnKocYN3Po

meyer, coach

May 12th, 2010
11:23 pm

one thing we know for sure is that CMR cannot win one with anyone’s recruits!!!!!

meyer, coach

May 12th, 2010
11:24 pm

TIDE RISING….your post at 10:09 is funny as he11.

NRBQ

May 12th, 2010
11:48 pm

You said it all, Tony, when you referred to that sell-out, suck-up hack as your friend.

Say goodbye to any credibility you might have had with intelligent SEC fans.

As a consolation, you can still generate 400+ hits from uninformed rednecks, so it’s all good.

UF Hater

May 13th, 2010
12:16 am

Tormentor – At first you were giving UGA fans a hard time and then you started bringing up things against Bama. That was two years ago (Utah), you got your butt kicked in the GA Dome this past year and I believe you are upset because that made your man crush, Tim Tebow, cry like a girl on national television. Why don’t you talk about how crying Tim Tebow knew the game was over in the beginning of the second half. How his team quit on him because they were getting knocked around too hard?

You can talk all you want about Saban leaving, but at least our coach never had a nervous breakdown on the sideline, had to be rushed to the hospital because he couldn’t deal with losing and then retired but then decided not to even though it might kill him. What a stand-up guy Urban Meyer is, his family was so happy when he retired and then he dropped them and decided to come back and told his players before his family. Nice guy! Great father and husband there.

In regards to CMR, I think UGA would be stupid to fire him. he’s done a great job and it looks like he finally got rid of Martinez and brought in a defensive guru to right the ship. UGA averaged 29 points a game last year. The offense wasn’t the issue, the defense was.

SoHo

May 13th, 2010
12:54 am

When Saban stays at 1 school for 5 years, and wins a national championship after the 4th year on that team, with his own recruits, then he can take full credit. Until then, he can’t.

Bama Guy

May 13th, 2010
1:01 am

SoHo – You are a moron. Saban is in his third year of recruits, almost all of the starters this past year were people he recruited. Julio Jones, Mark Ingram (heisman trophy winner) Terrance Cody, Colin Peek, Rolando McClain, etc…Keep in mind, when he took the program over they were just coming off probation and had lost more games than they won the past three years…

Hairy Dawg

May 13th, 2010
1:33 am

Richt is best coach in SEC. Adams+Evans is problem for not recruiting likes talent that Bammmers do. We got to get the top SEC talent and then we winning all as champs. The players is the and we needs the players that play and with SEC speeds and talents. Got to giving Sabans credit for doing right in running bad players off by pulling scholly. UGA with Adams+Evans got to man-up and do same thing to competing with big boys. Then we dominating even that bums Urban Myers and the Gaytors.

BuLLdawg

May 13th, 2010
3:16 am

Tony Blowhart

Typical for you. Why talk about 7-5 ?

14-game seasons nowadays, son.

If Coach Richt has a 9-4 or 8-5 season in 14-game seasons nowadays, again, he is safe.

Is that what we want to talk about safe ?

You hit all around the issue when you finally get to discussing coaching staff changes after this season.

Ones that should have already long since happened.

9 Years of the Coach Richt Era, Coach Richt has had a decidedly LOUSY coaching staff.

Last 2 years ?

2007 was great.

God Almighty Tony, we have lost 10 SEC East games the last 4 years.

21 fumbles every year for last 4 years on the average

14 interceptions every year for last 4 years on the average

# 96 in Penalties NCAA Ranking every year for last 4 years on the average

In 9 years of Coach Richt Era :

LOST 8 games to teams not ranked Top 25 Final AP Poll

LOST 8 games to teams ranked Top 10 Final AP Poll, beat 3

Not beat 1 Top 10 Final AP Poll team in any bowl game

Not sniffed SEC East Championship since 2005

This is 2010

No QB prepared 2006 (4 Losses), 2009 (5 Losses) and now again 2010

Entire Offensive Coaching Staff put on notice that Coach Richt has taken over all their responsibilities, as of his quote to you 3 weeks ago now

39 Arrests / Suspensions in just the last 3 years according to David Hale macon.com

Failed to recruit offensive all-stars in state of Georgia 2010 Recruiting Class

Horrible offensive play calls

Booed by EVERY fan at Sanford Stadium

38 wins last 4 years is Number 19 in the nation for UGA

14 losses last 4 years Number 19 in the nation for UGA

Number 9 of 12 in The SEC in Graduation Rates Coach Richt Era

17-19 Coach Richt Era vs Top 25 Final AP Poll teams

We have not beat the good teams at 3-8 vs Top 10 Final AP Poll

We have also lost to bad teams 8 in the 9 year Coach Richt Era

2-7 vs Florida and now 3-17 last 2 decades

2006 we beat # 9 Auburn # 19 Virginia Tech, LOST unranked Vandie 4-8 & KY

2007 we beat # 13 Florida # 15 Auburn # 19 Hawaii, LOST vols unranked SC 6-6

2008 we beat # 24 Michigan State, LOST 29 consecutive points Georgia tek, 42 consecutive points Florida and 31 to nothing at half time Alabama

2009 we beat # 13 Final AP Poll Georgia tek, LOST not Top 25 Final AP Poll Okie St, vols 7-6, KY 7-6, Florida to be 2-7 Coach Richt Era now and to LSU who beat NO Top 25 Poll team but beat UGA.

Alabama, Florida and LSU are doing better than UGA and at Number 19 in the nation the last 4 years in wins/losses, being unable to get out of our own division of our own conference, we are no where on the national stage.

We had a claim after 2005 to be almost an Elite Football Program.

Since, we are # 19.

BuLLdawg

May 13th, 2010
3:46 am

QUOTE

by
SoHo

May 13th, 201012:54 am

“When Saban stays at 1 school for 5 years, and wins a national championship after the 4th year on that team, with his own recruits, then he can take full credit. Until then, he can’t.”

END QUOTE

Ok, let’s measure Coach Richt by the SAME MEASURE.

52-13 Coach Richt 2001-2005
38-14 Coach Richt 2006-2010

Let’s say he goes 9-4 this season

52-13 Coach Richt 2001-2005
47-18 Coach Richt 2006-2010

We were not unlucky in 2007, we lost to a really lousy 6-6 South Carolina team who did not even play in a bowl game and we lost to the vols since we have never beat the vols and Florida both the same season. Our reward for these losses, taking us out of our own division of our own confernce, let alone the national stage, before the season really got going ?

# 19 Hawaii – that is who you get to play with losses to vols and South Carolina 2007, # 19.

We were unlucky in 2002 ? NONE of those players were Coach Richt players, none of them.

Be careful how you judge other coaches, because if you apply your same reasoning to our own coach after the first 5 years SoHo, then you are pin-pointing that what Coach Richt did with Jim Donnan’s players (all now in the NFL), is not what Coach Richt has done now the last 4 years with all his own recruits.

We have not done anything the last 4 years at 10-10 vs SEC East teams and 14 Losses 38 wins.

# 19

And, there is no one who thinks this year is going to be ANY different.

After this year, Coach Richt loses 14 seniors and 5 juniors, all starters.

Do you really think you can put crap on Garcia at South Carolina for his arrests and ignore we have had 39 Arrested / Suspended in just the last 3 years according to David Hale macon.com last week.

Do you know we are # 9 of the 12 SEC in football in Graduation Rates today latest NCAA report.

Jim Donnan lost 13 games his last 4 years, for which he was fired.

Coach Richt has lost 14 games his last 4 years.

Say South Carolina at home at night wins ? What is Coach Richt’s record in SEC East last 4 years then

pat sulley

May 13th, 2010
4:01 am

In terms of “BuLLdawgs” comments, I say thank you. Thank you for your dedication and daily concern for UGA.
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This guy wakes up every day thinking about UGA.
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That is so funny to me.
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What is more amazing to me is that you are only here in hopes of getting attention.
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that is pathetic.
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That obsessive behavior indicates just how superior you view UGA.

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You attempt to distract people from the topic at hand.
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Suggestion for “BuLLdawg” who blogs on a daily basis about UGA:

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“Please Notice Me” would be a better name.
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That would be a very fitting name because of your desperate need to get members of the CFB family to notice you.
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Before you refute that statement, ask yourself why you are not blogging on any other subject at any other time except about UGA.
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You are so unoriginal and pathetic you will probably copy and paste that comment and subtly change the content to make it appear as your own work.

pat sulley

May 13th, 2010
4:06 am

Hey BuLLdawg. Here is an accurate WHOLE record. Nothing like the pick and choose stats you use..

under Richt

He is 24-7 against the SEC West.

He is 28-16 against the SEC East.

He is 38-4 against nonconference opponents.

He is 8-1 against Georgia Tech.

He won four of his first five games against Tennessee, but has lost three of the last four against the Vols since then.

He was born the same year as Chuck D of Public Enemy.

Ranks third in winning percentage among active college coaches that have coached for at least five years, now that Pete Carroll left USC for the NFL’s Seattle Seahawks.

He is 90-27, trailing only Urban Meyer (96-18) and Bob Stoops (117-29).\\yeah he is pretty damn good

Mark Richt is one of only six coaches to win two SEC football championships in their first five years coaching. He is also one of only five head coaches in SEC history to record four straight 10-win seasons

Coach Richt’s Red and Black outfits have never posted a losing record in conference play and six of his last eight squads have finished 6-2 or better in regular-season SEC contests.

Mark Richt’s overall success in Southeastern Conference action—including two SEC titles, three conference championship game appearances, and four finishes of no worse than tied for first place in the East, with no losing records in the process—is without parallel in Georgia football history.

Ere anyone attempts to argue that Coach Richt’s superb out-of-conference ledger is the product of schedules stacked with the likes of

Northwestern State,

Western Kentucky,

Tennessee Tech, and

Hawaii in the 2008 Sugar Bowl,

I should hasten to point out that he is 21-4 against

Arizona State,

Boise State,

Boston College,

Clemson,

Colorado,

Florida State,

Georgia Tech,

Michigan State,

Oklahoma State,

Purdue,

Texas A&M,

Virginia Tech,

West Virginia, and

Wisconsin.

Even if we factor out Division I-AA teams, Sun Belt squads, and similar schedule fodder, Coach Richt is .840 against teams from automatic BCS-qualifying conferences other than the SEC. (Yes, I’m going ahead and counting the Broncos in that category because the Mountain West will get a guaranteed bid as soon as Boise State is invited to join.)

There are those in Bulldog Nation who would like to see Mark Richt run out of town on a rail. Such people should be turned over to the custody of Mike Leach, in the hope that he will treat their obvious head trauma the way he treated Adam James’s

BuLLdawg

May 13th, 2010
4:20 am

He is 10-10 vs SEC East the last 4 years.

He has 8 LOSSES to teams NOT RANKED Top 25 Final AP Poll

He is 3-8 vs Top 10 Final AP Poll teams

He has NEVER beat a Top 10 Final AP Poll team in any bowl game

He has 95 Arrests/ Suspensions

He has 39 Arrests/Suspensions in just the last 3 years

He is # 9 SEC in Football Graduation Rates

He has 21 fumbles every year last 4 years in a row

He has 14 interceptions every year last 4 years in a row

He is # 96 in Penalties every year last 4 years in a row

We are # 19 in the nation at 38-14 the last 4 years in a row

hop

May 13th, 2010
4:32 am

tony… you are not getting the real skinny from your own school.
take it to the bank, this is a critical year for mark right as evidence by the massive staff changes thus past year.
if they do not work and uga is 7-5, the wolves will out to change the head coach.

mark richt is not the wonder boy that he once was! tony… you are not even close to what you are reporting , your view is not the correct one in athens!

maybe… you are spending so much with espn that you are not as close as you once were in athens!

BuLLdawg

May 13th, 2010
4:45 am

He we are doing great. I just love it being the # 19 football program in the nation over the last 4 years at 38-14.

BuLLdawg

May 13th, 2010
4:47 am

If we are doing so great and Coach Richt is not having problems with his coaching staff for 9 years, why did he 3 weeks ago tell the entire offensive coaching staff that he, Coach Richt, is taking over all their responsibilities on Offense, and fired his entire special teams coaching staff, and fired his entire defensive coaching staff ?

Because we are doing great ?

BuLLdawg

May 13th, 2010
5:15 am

If Les Miles is in more trouble than Coach Richt, then why is

51-15 Les Miles
48-17 Coach Richt

These are the 5 years that Les Miles has been at LSU.

Coach Richt has not done as well as Les Miles.

Les Miles has MORE WINS in The SEC than Coach Richt in the Les Miles’ Era at LSU.

Les Miles has what Coach Richt does NOT National Championship.

Les Miles’ players are not Arrested / Suspended at the rate Coach Richt’s are.

Les Miles’ Graduation Rate is higher than Coach Richt.

But, Les Miles is on the hot seat more than Coach Richt when Les Miles has a better record than Coach Richt during the 5 years both have coached together in the last 5 years.

Les Miles has a better SEC record than Coach Richt.

Les Miles has a better overall record than Coach Richt.

Les Miles has a better coaching staff his 5 years than Coach Richt his 9 years.

Les Miles averages MORE than 10 wins a season.

Coach Richt averages LESS than 10 wins a season in the same timeframe Les Miles has coached at LSU.

3 decades have now passed without UGA a National Championship and Les Miles gave LSU another National Championship, while we work on our 4th Decade without a National Championship.

Les Miles is better at recruiting than Coach Richt.

Les Miles is better at hiring a coaching staff than Coach Richt.

Les Miles beats top teams in bowl games; Coach Richt NEVER has beat a Top 10 Final AP Poll team in any bowl game, ever.

Les Miles makes bone-headed coaching decisions in game clock management crunch time, like an idiot, repeatedly and yet he has a BETTER record than Coach Richt. What does that tell you ?

Coach Richt tries desperately to employ gimmicks to get his unruly bunch of penalty prone team on the field and Arrested / Suspended team off the field, to win. Those have back-fired. And, it leaves Coach Richt standing there being judged head-to-head with Les Miles. Les Miles has done BETTER than Coach Richt.

So has Urban Meyer.

So too has Nick Saban.

Where does that put Coach Richt ?

Well, I will tell you where it puts Coach Richt, it puts Coach Richt 1-3 the last 4 years to vols, 1-3 the last 4 years to Florida, 2-2 the last 4 years to Kentucky and 3-1 the last 4 years to Vandie and South Carolina.

It puts Coach Richt not as good a Coach as a whole host of coaches in his own conference and even more than that in the nation. Yet, here we are in the state of Georgia with 3 other states having more high school players in the NFL and Coach Richt is # 19 in the nation at 38-14 the last 4 years.

I know more about Georgia Bulldogs’ Football than you can go extrapolate from a story by Chris Low 4 years ago when Coach Richt had completed his first 5 years here with Jim Donnan’s recruits and was flying high.

Since # 19 at 38-14 and 10-10 in our own damned division of our own conference.

Our division in our conference has NOT BEEN GOOD the last 4 years outside of Florida, but Georgia is 10-10 against them the last 4 years.

YOU’RE SATISFIED with that.

That is YOUR problem, not MINE.

BuLLdawg

May 13th, 2010
5:29 am

QUOTE

by
hop

May 13th, 2010 4:32 am

tony… you are not getting the real skinny from your own school.

take it to the bank, this is a critical year for mark right as evidence by the massive staff changes thus past year.

if they do not work and uga is 7-5, the wolves will out to change the head coach.

mark richt is not the wonder boy that he once was! tony… you are not even close to what you are reporting , your view is not the correct one in athens!

Mick

May 13th, 2010
6:15 am

Tony, of course you can link Saban and Richt. Look at the record both have against Kentucky since 2006! See any similarities? I love both coaches and wish them many more years at their respective schools! GBB!

BuLLdawg

May 13th, 2010
6:32 am

Kentucky starting 2006 ?

Coach Richt is 1-3 vs Florida and 1-3 vs the vols starting 2006.

Coach Richt is 38-14, good for # 19 in the nation, starting 2006.

And, our problems are and have been on offense, especially not having a QB prepared 2006, 2009 and now again in 2010.

We lost 4 games 2006 without a QB prepared.

We lost 5 games 2009 without a QB prepared.

We lose ? games 2010 without a QB prepared ?

And with # 9 in The SEC in Football Graduation Rate

And, 39 Arrested / Suspended in just the last 3 years

It is NOT just on the field that we have issues.

Off the field too, quite very obviously.

And, we don’t recognize talent when we have it.

And, we don’t want to hire good coaching staff for the 9 years of the Coach Richt Era.

So, Coach Richt is going to do something about ALL OF THIS, while he ALSO takes over

COMPLETE RESPONSIBILITY of the offense.

Yeah, right.

BuLLdawg

May 13th, 2010
6:50 am

Coach Richt should have hired an offensive coordinator instead of trying to do that, too.

Hairy Dawg

May 13th, 2010
8:01 am

Attacking on Richt is no good and he aint problem. Adams+Evans is problems is not letting us bring in best players and Hargraves. We got some of the stinky players and we got to rid them but Adams+Evans got to let us. Richt know how coaching and replaced Martinez. He just needs supporters from Adams+Evans to get SEC speed and talents and then we dominates to unload a whooping can on rest of SEC. Us fans got to turn pressure on Adams+Evans to be the winning teams again.

Hairy Dawg

May 13th, 2010
9:10 am

And more need realize that Richt Christainizing the players that play to create good men. He just needs to get chumps out to remove thats stinkys. Then we win champs to New Orleans Sugar Bowling.

pat sulley

May 13th, 2010
11:05 am

last four years his squad finished higher than any UGA squad in 1980. BuLLdawg you are an idiot

pat sulley

May 13th, 2010
11:07 am

thanks BuLLdawg for the updated numbers. The ones I was using was from ESPN of the week prior to the ALA game in 2008 when they compared Saban to Richt. Here is the link
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So not lying just didnt properly extrapolate the numbers from then. Now go argue with the world wide leader in sports. Moron

http://espn.go.com/blog/sec/post/_/id/467/nick-saban-vs-mark-richt

Alabama: 3-1
Auburn: 6-3
Arkansas: 5-0
Florida: 2-7
South Carolina: 7-2
Tennessee: 5-4
Kentucky: 7-2
Vanderbilt: 8-1
Ole Miss: 4-0
Mississippi St: 2-0
LSU: 3-3

UNDER Richt

Vs. SEC foes: 52-23

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Vs. Top 25 foes: 29-18
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Vs. Top 25 foes away from home: 18-12
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Vs. Top 10 foes: 8-6
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In postseason games (bowls and championships): 9-3
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In games decided by a touchdown or less: 34-14
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Record at home: 46-11
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Record on the road: 42-6 (including bowl games)
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Losses to unranked teams: 6
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Top 25 finishes: 8
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Top 10 finishes: 6
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Fact:………UGA was 12-1 in 2002 (prior to bowl selections)
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Fact ………Fla was 12-1 in 2006 (prior to bowl selections)
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Fact ………Not UGAs fault there were 2 unbeatens that year. “unlucky”
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Fact……….Not Flas credit that there was only one unbeaten in 2006. “Lucky”
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Fact:………Luck (not merit) had more to do with Fla getting an invite to the BCS not that Fla was more deserving to go to a NC than UGA with identical records.
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Fact:………No SEC team has ever lost a BCSNC game and if UGA would have been invited nothing indicates that it would have been different
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Fact……….UGA has 2 SEC titles..same as Fla in last 9 years and equal amount of total wins (90) over all.
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Fact……….UGA has been ranked more times top ten in last 9 years than any SEC team at 6. Fla has only been ranked top ten 3 times in 9 years (real impressive).
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Fact……….In 9 years under Richt the only SEC team with more wins is LSU

Fact………..UGA has won 4 str8 bowls….more than any other SEC team.
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Fact……..UGA has won 11 of last 13 bowls…Thats more than any team (tied with LSU and more than FLA)
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Fact…… UGA has won 8 or more games in last 13 years…more than any other team in the nation including Fla.
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Fact…….UGA is clearly as good or better than any SEC team over last 9 years. Only a fool or a fan of the mythical BCSNC selection process (non playoff) would think otherwise.
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Fact…….UGA had same record when they won the SEC title in 2002 as Fla did in 2006/8 when they won the SEC title. But UGA had the misfortune (luck) to have that record in a year that had 2 other teams with undefeated records.
Hardly an indictment on UGA but rather on the NC selection process.
6 times finished in the top 10
2 times finished in the top 3
3 SEC Championship Appearances
2 SEC Titles
3 BCS Bowls
2 Sugar Bowl wins
90-27 record over 8 seasons – 79% winning percentage (one of only 7 in the history of college ball to have ever accomplished this)
4 str8 bowl wins
7-2 in bowls (big games)
Mark Richt coached QB coach for Charlie Ward and Chris Weinke = 2 Heismans; Head Coach for David Greene = all time winningest college QB until Colt McCoy this year); and coached Matthew Stafford = very rich #1 draft pick)
No Probations
He has my respect.
Period.

In terms of “BuLLdawgs” comments, I say thank you. Thank you for your dedication and daily concern for UGA.
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This guy wakes up every day thinking about UGA.
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That is so funny to me.
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What is more amazing to me is that you are only here in hopes of getting attention.
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that is pathetic.
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That obsessive behavior indicates just how superior you view UGA.

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You attempt to distract people from the topic at hand.
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Suggestion for “BuLLdawg” who blogs on a daily basis about UGA:

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“Please Notice Me” would be a better name.
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That would be a very fitting name because of your desperate need to get members of the CFB family to notice you.
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Before you refute that statement, ask yourself why you are not blogging on any other subject at any other time except about UGA.
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You are so unoriginal and pathetic you will probably copy and paste that comment and subtly change the content to make it appear as your own work.

In 2002, Ohio State went 12-0 in the regular season with a paltry five-point win over Wisconsin, a miniscule six-point win over Penn State, and a pathetic 10-6 win over Purdue where Craig Krenzel threw a 37-yard touchdown pass on fourth down in the final two minutes.
Then the Buckeyes needed a sadly pathetic overtime to beat Illinois and beat Michigan 14-9 with a miracle touchdown with less than five minutes remaining. Ohio State could have seen its national championship dreams derailed several times but to the Buckeyes’ everlasting credit, they always found a way to win.
Mark Richt’s best team at Georgia (12-1 with a loss to Florida), which finished No. 3 in the BCS Standings, just needed for Ohio State to lose one of those games and the Bulldogs are in the Fiesta Bowl against Miami.
I guess in a playoff UGA could not have beaten the mighty Buckeye’s? And we still think the BCSNC is legit? LOL

Ducktails……OS U had a .75 advantage over UGA on Oct 26th.
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UGA only played one game (barely ranked #22 Auburn) in the last 5 weeks against ranked teams.
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OSU played 2 ranked teams (1 top ten and one 11th) the SOS would have moved OSU above an unbeaten UGA anyway.
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Needing OSU to lose for UGA to get in undefeated or not. Making the Fla game irrelevant. Again the LUCK like Fla had at 12-1 in 2006 and 2008 was not on UGAs side.
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So…AGAIN…no ducktails Fla beating UGA is not what kept UGA out. Luck that OSU didnt lose did.
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UGA was 3rd in the game/week leading up to the BCS NC.
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Had OSU or Miami lost (as Fla needed in 2006/8) then it would have put UGA in.
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Hence luck.
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OSU would have been ahead of UGA regardless of UGA being undefeated or not based on its SOS over last 5 weeks…playing 2 top ten teams to UGA playing only 1.
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But then you already knew this right ducktails?
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DOGS IN SEC ELITE FOR THE DECADE
SHould they keep Richt?
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Mark Inabinett of the Mobile Press-Register broke down the SEC records for the past decade (2000-2009), and the Dogs generally rank in the top three no matter how you look at it.
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In overall record, Georgia (98-31) came in third behind Florida (100-30) and LSU (99-31).
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If you go by conference record, Georgia (55-25) was tied with LSU behind Florida (61-19).
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For nonconference record, the Dogs (43-6) were second behind LSU (44-6) and ahead of the mighty Gators (39-11).
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Going by record against other BCS conferences, Georgia (21-5) was on top, followed by LSU (13-4), Kentucky (9-5), Florida (13-10) and Auburn (10-10) and Alabama (7-7).

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Finally, he notes that Florida, Georgia and LSU were the only SEC teams that went to bowls after every season of the decade.
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A pretty impressive record.
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But just going on the last 9 years not the whole decade (under Richt) UGA is in first place as far as total wins, bowls, bowl wins, etc etc etc. AND thats with UGA losing 5 games last year allowing the rest to CATCH UP
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Nick Saban went 6-5, 6-6, 6-6, 7-5 at Mich St.

He went 8-5 at LSU 2x

He went 7-6 at Alabama.

Saban has gone 5-3 or worse in conference 8 times.

Richt has only gone 5-3 or worse in conference 3 times in his first 9 years.

Compare that to Saban’s record and consistency in his 1st 9 years.

Richt has NEVER had a 7-6 or 6-6 season, Saban’s done it 5 times, including once at Alabama

pat sulley

May 13th, 2010
11:08 am

Saban first 8 years in D1A (SEC) football. ……….81 wins.
Richt first 8 years in the SEC……………………82 wins Richt has a better record

Meyers first 5 years in SEC ……2 SEC titles.
Richts first 5 years in SEC……..2 SEC titles ..richts record is as good.

Miles 8 years in SEC 79 wins 1 SEC title
Richts 8 years in SEC 82 wins 2 SEC titles. Richts records is better.

pat sulley

May 13th, 2010
11:11 am

Again BuLLdawg uses incomplete stats and cherry picks time frame….typical

pat sulley

May 13th, 2010
11:16 am

Mark Richt has led the Bulldogs to a win over their oldest rivals and a win over their in-state rivals (both of whom were bound for January bowl games), fired three members of his coaching staff, won a bowl game over an up-and-coming Big 12 team, hired Todd Grantham at the end of an exhaustive search for a new defensive coordinator, and gone outside his circle of acquaintances to hire Coach Grantham’s preferred secondary coach. Aside from one atrocious senior night between the hedges, it’s been all uphill since we hit rock bottom.

Any fair evaluation of Coach Richt’s record nine years into his tenure, therefore, most begin with an acknowledgment that he has proven his willingness to make the changes that are necessary to restore the Georgia program to prominence. When even guys who hurl toasters off of balconies during Bulldog victories are urging patience, we need to give credit where credit is due. Mark Richt is a fine man, an excellent coach, and a damn good ‘Dawg.

That said, here is the tale of the tape on Coach Richt’s time in the Classic City:

Just three of Coach Richt’s 24 predecessors lasted as long as nine years as the head coach in Athens. (While Alex Cunningham technically was at the Georgia helm from 1910 to 1919, the Red and Black did not field football teams during the war years of 1917 and 1918, so Coach Cunningham oversaw only eight Georgia squads.)

pat sulley

May 13th, 2010
11:17 am

Coach Richt still can say that he is the only Georgia coach to have made it through nine seasons at the Red and Black helm with a winning record over the Crimson Tide.
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He is 2-0 in Bryant-Denny Stadium, a venue in which the Red and Black had never won prior to his arrival.

pat sulley

May 13th, 2010
11:18 am

As disheartened as we all were by last year’s last-second loss to the Fighting Tigers, Coach Richt’s record against Louisiana State surely counts as one of the feathers in his cap. During one of the most dominant periods in the Bayou Bengals’ history, Mark Richt has held his own against LSU, going .500 against the Tigers both overall and in the Georgia Dome.

pat sulley

May 13th, 2010
11:19 am

It’s Mark Richt’s state. Paul Johnson is only living in it. Even Vince Dooley didn’t beat the Yellow Jackets at that torrid pace, and, after Bobby Dodd left the Grant Field sideline, he faced some Ramblin’ Wreck coaches a good deal worse than Chan Gailey.

pat sulley

May 13th, 2010
11:20 am

The Plainsmen lead the Deep South’s Oldest Rivalry with an overall 53-52-8 series record, so it is not surprising that no Georgia coach has put together a truly dominant record over Auburn. Nevertheless,

Coach Richt has won two-thirds of his meetings with the Tigers and has taken six of the last eight games, including each of the last four, from the Alabama Polytechnic Institute, despite overlapping with the extremely successful Tommy Tuberville for much of his tenure.

Coach Richt simply does not get enough credit for his achievements against the Plainsmen. I hate Auburn.

pat sulley

May 13th, 2010
11:22 am

I was thinking after reading this about Coach Richt’s record against coaches that have a MNC.

Urban Meyer: 1-4
Nick Saban: 3-3
Les Miles: 2-1
Steve Spurrier: 4-2
Phillip Fulmer: 5-3
Lou Holtz: 3-1
Bobby Bowden: 1-0

Aside from Urban Meyer, whenever Coach Richt goes up against the best coaches in the business he usually wins (and we won’t count Tommy Tuberville, who Coach Richt went 5-3 against).

pat sulley

May 13th, 2010
11:22 am

Against Dennis Erickson: 2-0

pat sulley

May 13th, 2010
11:25 am

and BuLLdawg (Thomas Brown) try to be more original

pat sulley

May 13th, 2010
11:27 am

Losses to unranked (final poll) teams, 2001-2009

USC: 9
UF: 5
LSU: 6
OU: 5
Texas: 6
Ohio State: 7
UGA: 6

pat sulley

May 13th, 2010
11:27 am

Records against top 25 (final poll) teams, 2001-2009

USC:26-10
UF: 25-22
LSU: 21-21
OU: 20-19
Texas: 21-10
Ohio State: 22-14
UGA: 19-21

pat sulley

May 13th, 2010
11:28 am

Take out Florida, and from 2001-2009, Georgia is

17-14 against year-end top 25 teams

pat sulley

May 13th, 2010
11:38 am

RICHT IN THE “90 IN 9″ CLUB
Coach……………………………………………School, ……………………………………..First 9 Seasons
George Woodruff (1892-00) ……………….Pennsylvania, ………………………………114-7-2
Pete Carroll (2001-09) ……………………..Southern Cal., ……………………………….97-19
Bob Stoops (1999-2007)……………………Oklahoma, …………………………………..97-22
Urban Meyer (2001-current) ………………B. Green, Utah, Fla.,……………………… 96-18 (playing against mid majors helped skew his numbers)
Amos Alonzo Stagg (1890-98)…………..Springfield, Chic., ……………………………94-35-8
Barry Switzer (1973-81)…………………..Oklahoma, …………………………………….90-13-3
Mark Richt (2001-current)………………..Georgia, ………………………………………….90-27

pat sulley

May 13th, 2010
11:39 am

RICHT IN THE “80 IN 8″ CLUB
Coach School, First 8 Seasons
George Woodruff (1892-00) Pennsylvania, 114-7-2
Pete Carroll (2001-09) Southern Cal., 97-19
Bob Stoops (1999-2007) Oklahoma, 97-22
Urban Meyer (2001-current) B. Green, Utah, Fla., 96-18
Amos Alonzo Stagg (1890-98) Springfield, Chic., 94-35-8
Barry Switzer (1973-81) Oklahoma, 90-13-3
Mark Richt (2001-current) Georgia, 82-22.

pat sulley

May 13th, 2010
11:40 am

Only Coaches To Win Two SEC Titles In First Five Years

Frank Thomas, Alabama (1933, ‘34)
Bernie Moore, LSU (1935, ‘36)
Vince Dooley, Georgia (1966, ‘68)
Steve Spurrier, Florida (1991, ‘93)
Nick Saban, LSU (2001, ‘03)
Mark Richt, Georgia (2002, ‘05)
Urban Meyer 2006/8

pat sulley

May 13th, 2010
11:41 am

Only SEC Coaches To Record Four Straight 10-Win Seasons

Paul “Bear” Bryant, Alabama (1971-74, 1977-80)
Vince Dooley, Georgia (1980-83)
Phillip Fulmer, Tennessee (1995-98)
Mark Richt, Georgia (2002-05)
Steve Spurrier, Florida (1993-98)

pat sulley

May 13th, 2010
11:43 am

(not including last year) a page from BuLLdawgs playbook (exclude certain years that dont help his argument)

Record (*SEC)
82-22 (48-19)
Home / Away / Neutral
42-9 / 30-4 / 10-9
Versus Ranked Teams (H/A/N)
8-7 / 10-2 / 9-7
Versus Top 10 Teams (H/A/N)
1-1 / 3-1 / 3-4
Day / Night 60-14 / 22-8
SEC East / *West / Non-Conference
27-13 / 21-6 / 34-3
Conference Record (H/A/*N)
20-8 / 24-4 / 4-7
Score First / Opp. Scores First
63-8 / 19-14
Leading / Trailing / Tied at Half
63-6 / 16-15 / 3-1
Leading / Trailing / Tied after 3rd Q
71-4 / 7-18 / 4-0
Scoring < 18 Pts. / 18 + Pts.
11-15 / 71-7
Allowing less than 20 Pts.
60-6
Allowing 20+ / 30+ Pts.
18-9 / 4-8
Rushing for less than 100 yards
13-9
Rushing for over 100 yards
69-13
Rushing for 200+ yards
17-2
Passing for 300+ yards
17-4
Totaling less than 300 yards
18-8
400+ yards of Total Offense
41-4
Allowing less than 100 yards
44-3
Allowing less than 300 yds. Total Off.
51-5
Allowing 400+ yds. total offense
6-8
Having 100-yard rusher
37-3
Opp. have 100-yard rusher
12-10
No turnovers / takeaways
15-0 / 7-7
In August / September
3-0 / 26-4
In October
24-7
In November
20-8
In December
4-2
In January
5-1

Harrison

May 13th, 2010
11:47 am

Richt’s winning % is 3rd among active coaches who’ve coached at least 5 years.

Meyer/Stoops .819/.820
Richt .790
Miles .701
Saban .688

Clearly, Richt is in a league of his own when it comes to comparisons to Miles or Saban as far as winning goes–winning is the bottom line.

The #2 and #3 finishes in 2002 & 2007 are as good as any Miles or Saban’s had, should have won a Natl Champ both yerars, a little unlucky in that regard, but terrific results.

Of course, you won’t find Paul Finn. talking winning % when he compares Richt to Saban, because he’ll lose that discussion.

Kelton

May 13th, 2010
11:51 am

The dude acting like “Pat Sulley” should be banned, he wants us to believe he’s a truckdriver who blogs all the time, while driving, he’s breaking blog rules, by acting like another person. He is NOT Pat Sulley.

Lucas

May 13th, 2010
11:52 am

I agree, BAN PAT SULLEY, HE STEALS IDENTITIES.

pat sulley

May 13th, 2010
12:04 pm

How am I not Patrick Sulley. It certainly is the name I was given by Arthur Sulley (my dad)…admittedly there are many times someone has stolen MY name and used it to talk bad about UGA but these last posts are mine (I have today off)

LUCAS ….I dont steal identities….I get mine stolen.

pat sulley

May 13th, 2010
12:08 pm

By the way…I do occasionally drive (when a driver is sick) but I am the owner of PMSulley Trucking. I have a lot of time to blog

Lucas

May 13th, 2010
12:16 pm

Hey “pat”

Listen clueless, making up a name of your “dad” does not offer proof you are who you say you are.

If you are Pat Sulley, the blogging truck driver, then I am Nick Saban.

pat sulley

May 13th, 2010
12:56 pm

Hi Nick…glad to meet ya.

I tell ya what…I will post my Fathers name and yours on my facebook account…I will say “Hey Lucas (nick Saban) my dads name is Arthur. Will that satisfy ya?

http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1158327737&ref=name

pat sulley

May 13th, 2010
12:58 pm

Not sure what you didnt like so much about my recent comments that you didnt think it was me…but we are cool non the less.

CPJ

May 13th, 2010
4:43 pm

I will own Mark Richt for years to come

Hairy Dawg

May 13th, 2010
9:07 pm

Dang right Sulley. Richt is our guy and great at coaching. With the Teablows goning pro we is back to dominates East in 2010. If Richt gets Adams-Evans on boards in running stinkys then watch out cause Dawgs got talent in GA that aint in Bammer. We got to upping pressure on Adams-Evans for football to be dominates.

Hairy Dawg

May 13th, 2010
9:16 pm

We goning to fix the arrogant big mouth Myer and Dooley’s kid this year with the unloading of a whooping can on way to New Orlean for Jan 1st.

meyer, coach

May 13th, 2010
11:27 pm

CMR…you sure got a purty mouth, boy.
SQUEAL LIKE A PIG BOY!!!!
I’m still yo football daddy!!!!!

george

May 13th, 2010
11:33 pm

I used to use Paul Finebaum newspaper articles for cat liter lining,but now the cat won’t dump on the paper. When I see barnhart on tv, I just turn the station.

Vol Fan

May 13th, 2010
11:54 pm

CMR’s best years were against the Zooker, Fulmer (without Cutcliffe), and Gailey. Recently he has had to contend with Meyer, Saban, Johnson, Monte Kiffen, and Spurrier. You could probably add Rich Rodriguez, especially since CMR’s BCS wins came against Hawaii (a joke) and some other team that was unranked, didn’t have a starting QB, and didn’t have their lead WR because he was the emergency QB.

It might have something to do with his success. His best team was 2001, but they blew it against the Zooker by committing sexual assault on the field to ruin a critical drive… there went that national championship. 2007 was a joke because he pulled a streak of wins over a paper tiger Auburn, Can’tucky, Tech, and a one armed Tebow. Too bad they never played USC that year.

The point is, his timing was great and he has had some incredible luck.

Vol Fan

May 14th, 2010
12:02 am

Donnan on the other hand had to contend with Fulmer/Cutcliffe (at least more than CMR did), Spurrier/Florida, and O’Leary. I agree he doesn’t get the credit he deserves like the talent level of the 2002 team (I said 2001 earlier… my bad).

Hairy Dawg

May 14th, 2010
9:07 am

Richt beating Tenn like a drum. Y’all cant even keep the Lame Kitten who is bolting after seeing diaster at Tenn and the arresting. Now you got Dooley boy with losing record at the LA la chump school. We goning to take care arrogance Myers for winning with Zooker recruits and Tea-blows but now Gaytors nervous breaking.

Reality Dawg

May 14th, 2010
1:23 pm

Miles is on the hot seat, richt is not. As long as mark wins 8-9 games, he can keep his job as long as he wants.

im4bama

May 14th, 2010
1:53 pm

In a world of what have you done for me lately mindset, if Richt’s team doesnt’ show improvement by the end of the 2011 season, he is gone for sure. When I say improvement, I mean a defense that shows up for the game, a lot less penalties and giving Florida a game that goes to the wire whether they win or not.

im4bama

May 14th, 2010
1:57 pm

Wouldn’t it be something if by some miracle, Derek Dooley actually cooks up something positive at UT with nothing in the cubbard and Richt underachieves. Ya think the 2nd coming of Dooley dawgs could happen?

Big Harry Dawg

May 15th, 2010
10:39 am

All I can say is this: Richt better quit thumbing his pecker and get back to actually coaching – or he will be gone.

That is all, thank you.

messin with sasquatch

May 15th, 2010
10:57 am

dogbois’s can’t wait for another run at mediocrity.

atlvol55

May 15th, 2010
11:26 am

Listen, Richt won a championship in a down year for TN in 2002 (I know, we have had several since too), and Ron Zook’s first year at Florida. That is the really the only time Richt has done anything. As long as Meyer is at Florida, UGA will continue to get the crap kicked out of them by Florida.

atlvol55

May 15th, 2010
11:27 am

Hairy Dawg….Tn has killed UGA 3 of the last 4 years…what the He** are you talking about??

GR82BAG8R

May 15th, 2010
11:35 am

Richt is an excellent recruiter. The question Bulldog fans should answer is what would Meyer or Saban do with the talent that Richt recruits. Florida has had two NCs, LSU two, Alabama one, and even Tennessee one during Richt’s tenure at Georgia. For all Richt’s success in winning percentage and SEC championships, he hasn’t won a NC.

Is that good enough? If the changes on defense don’t bring a title in the next 3 – 4 years, will Georgia fans be satisfied with a “very good” program, but never a great one?

Brainiac

May 15th, 2010
12:21 pm

SimpleDawg: What’s with the “9-2 or 8-3″? They play 12 regular season games this century.( Just funning bro. Any true Dawg fan is my friend.)

Jason

May 15th, 2010
12:31 pm

Charliebama, your spellchecker is obviously missing a grammar option.

Brainiac

May 15th, 2010
12:35 pm

YES!!!!! 10 wins a year will satisfy this 71 year-old Dawg fan. I would like no losses ever but CMR brings a lot more to DAWG NATION than his coaching abilities. There are plenty of things more important than winning a National Championship in college athletics. It is just a damn game(which I dearly love) and it effects my personality when the Dawgs lose but it ain’t like a death in the family or losing your home or having a family member incarcerated or a catastrophic illness to a family member, etc. It is mostly for bragging rights which is good if kept in concept.

Brainiac

May 15th, 2010
12:43 pm

Vol Fan: In Football 101 it says in the first paragraph “LUCK COUNTS in the won-loss column”. Back to your drawing board

Brainiac(Lifetime Dawg Fan)

May 15th, 2010
12:54 pm

BuLLdawg ole buddy: Lighten up before you blow a gasket. You chastise Tony for his reference to 7-5 seasons and remind him of the 14 regular season games yet you immediately follow up with your own numbers of 9-4 or 8-5. Are you not going to count the North Avenue Bunglebee game or what?

Dawgs > Gators

May 15th, 2010
6:55 pm

The gators lost their 4 best players on offense and defense, meyer’s sick—UGA takes over this series in 2010—mark it down! I’ve seen brantley play in high school—Murray’s a lot better.

Tony

May 15th, 2010
10:46 pm

Miles is terrible, Richt is decent not great.

Hairy Dawg

May 15th, 2010
11:56 pm

Check out Richts records. He unloading old whooping can on Vols. Vols even lose to Vandy and keep replacing coach. Vols commits the felons with pellet guns while Richt Christainizing. Thats is difference and Richt knows how winning is impotant with the SEC talents and not the rejects that UTen gets.

Hairy Dawg

May 16th, 2010
12:55 am

You vol clowns has been rotten and playing rocky slop football sinse Tee Martin left. Tenn is a stinky programs and I prove it. Tenn is worse than USC on probation cause Lame Kitten left to take on probabtions instead of Tenn. And Cutcliff stayed at Duke over Tenn and that means you worse than Duke. Then you had hiring a coach with a la LA Tech record worse than Cheese Whiz at Auburn. By the transistive rule Tenn is worse than Duke, USC on probs and la LA Tech. You bums aint serious about playing of the football and been running the embarassing for SEC.

Hatfieldgeoff

May 24th, 2010
11:44 am

Hey KR,

Considering UGA had not won a conference championship in 18 years when Richt arrived, I’m sure they would take him in a heartbeat. Richt is a good coach and better than most at X’s & O’s but he has the same problem as 90% of college coaches, he can’t evaluate and project high school talent very well. Nick Saban excels at this. He’ll take 3-star players and beat your 5-star players, because he saw what they could develop into and not what they were as High School Seniors. Every scholarship player Saban has will have a role to fill and potentially could be a star. As for Richt, why did Logan Grey get a scholarship from UGA, he obviously does not have the talent to be an SEC quarterback. There are many more players at UGA who are big time recuits and never pan out (some never even start and only play special teams). I believe Meyer is the same as Saban to a certain degree, but Meyer has always had his pick of players in talent-rich Florida that I’m not sure evaluation of talent is as critical. Back to Richt, I believe his biggest problem was naming a friend Defensive Coordinator and then not being capable of firing him soon enough. Hopefully, Grantham and the new scheme will solve a lot of the problems.

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