UGA’s Richt, LSU’s Miles, in completely different situations

I’ve done a lot of radio interviews this spring and invariably the host has asked me the same question: Going into the 2010 season whose seat is hotter– Mark Richt or Les Miles? Even my friend Paul Finebaum linked the two men together in his most recent column.

First of all, I don’t understand the linkage, other than the fact that both men coach in the SEC , where they are expected to win every game, and that the top coaches in their respective divisions (Nick Saban, West; Urban Meyer, East) have won the last two national championships.

But there the similarity ends.

Les Miles took over a program that Nick Saban built and won a national championship in his third season (2007), when the players in Saban’s last class were seniors. In the past two seasons LSU is 8-8 in the SEC and fans on the Bayou wonder if Miles can win a title with his own players.

When it comes to Miles, there is this nagging sense that he and his staff are not maximizing the talent on this team. Actually, it’s more than a nagging sense.  When it comes to offense, LSU really hasn’t had much of a clue as to what it is doing the past two seasons. Quarterback Jordan Jefferson has not gotten one bit better since this time last year. A team that used to be known for blue collar football (LSU ran for over 200 yards a game in the national championship year but was 11th in the SEC last season), the Tigers are now look pretty soft on that side of the ball.

Let’s put it this way: LSU had better beat North Carolina on Sept. 4 at the Georgia Dome or there will be folks in that part of the world with Jon Gruden’s number on speed dial.

Richt took over at Georgia in 2001 and won a conference championship in 2002 with a team made up mostly of players he inherited from Jim Donnan (who still doesn’t get enough credit for what he did at Georgia to rebuild the talent base). But then he won another championship with his own players in 2005, and was as good as anybody in the country in 2007.

He’s won 90 games in nine years. He’s 50-22 in the SEC. In six of those years he has been 6-2 or better in the league. He has never been worse than 4-4 in the SEC.

Having said all that, has Georgia looked like a well-coached team the past two seasons? The answer is decidedly “No.” Here are two important numbers:

113: That was Georgia’s national ranking (out of 120 Division I-A schools) in penalties per game. Georgia had 105 penalties in 13 games. Only five schools in America (Troy, Oklahoma, Colorado, Texas Tech, Arizona State) had more penalties. By contrast, BCS champ Alabama had 69 penalties in 14 games. This has been a problem for two years and has not been fixed.

118: Georgia’s national ranking in turnover margin, which I think is the most important statistic in football. Georgia forced 12 turnovers last season (2 fumbles, 10 interceptions) but turned the ball over 28 times. That’s minus-16 in turnovers. Only one team in America, Miami of Ohio (minus-24) had a worse turnover margin. By contrast Alabama was plus 19 (31 takeaways, 12 turnovers) in 14 games. The hope at Georgia is that Todd Grantham’s new 3-4 defense will partly address this issue.

So I’m not saying that Richt and his staff don’t have work to do. They do. Georgia has done things the past two seasons that well-coached teams don’t do. And there is the fact that he is 1-4 against Meyer, who has won two national championships, and that the gap between Florida and the rest of the division seems to be growing. Some Georgia fans, and I hear from a lot of them, are worried that the program has lost momentum. I get that.

But Richt’s situation and that of Miles just aren’t comparable. If Miles goes 7-5 and 3-5 in the SEC there will be a concerted effort to nudge him back towards Michigan, his alma mater, where Rich Rodriguez faces a most uncertain future.

If Richt goes 7-5 it will certainly impact his quality of life in the offseason but it won’t jeopardize his job. He will feel pressure to make some more changes to his staff. But nobody in authority is going to say that he should relocate. In nine years Richt has put a lot of good will into the bank and that matters to the decision makers.

I could be totally wrong about this. What say you?

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May 12th, 2010
11:48 pm

You said it all, Tony, when you referred to that sell-out, suck-up hack as your friend.

Say goodbye to any credibility you might have had with intelligent SEC fans.

As a consolation, you can still generate 400+ hits from uninformed rednecks, so it’s all good.

UF Hater

May 13th, 2010
12:16 am

Tormentor – At first you were giving UGA fans a hard time and then you started bringing up things against Bama. That was two years ago (Utah), you got your butt kicked in the GA Dome this past year and I believe you are upset because that made your man crush, Tim Tebow, cry like a girl on national television. Why don’t you talk about how crying Tim Tebow knew the game was over in the beginning of the second half. How his team quit on him because they were getting knocked around too hard?

You can talk all you want about Saban leaving, but at least our coach never had a nervous breakdown on the sideline, had to be rushed to the hospital because he couldn’t deal with losing and then retired but then decided not to even though it might kill him. What a stand-up guy Urban Meyer is, his family was so happy when he retired and then he dropped them and decided to come back and told his players before his family. Nice guy! Great father and husband there.

In regards to CMR, I think UGA would be stupid to fire him. he’s done a great job and it looks like he finally got rid of Martinez and brought in a defensive guru to right the ship. UGA averaged 29 points a game last year. The offense wasn’t the issue, the defense was.


May 13th, 2010
12:54 am

When Saban stays at 1 school for 5 years, and wins a national championship after the 4th year on that team, with his own recruits, then he can take full credit. Until then, he can’t.

Bama Guy

May 13th, 2010
1:01 am

SoHo – You are a moron. Saban is in his third year of recruits, almost all of the starters this past year were people he recruited. Julio Jones, Mark Ingram (heisman trophy winner) Terrance Cody, Colin Peek, Rolando McClain, etc…Keep in mind, when he took the program over they were just coming off probation and had lost more games than they won the past three years…

Hairy Dawg

May 13th, 2010
1:33 am

Richt is best coach in SEC. Adams+Evans is problem for not recruiting likes talent that Bammmers do. We got to get the top SEC talent and then we winning all as champs. The players is the and we needs the players that play and with SEC speeds and talents. Got to giving Sabans credit for doing right in running bad players off by pulling scholly. UGA with Adams+Evans got to man-up and do same thing to competing with big boys. Then we dominating even that bums Urban Myers and the Gaytors.


May 13th, 2010
3:16 am

Tony Blowhart

Typical for you. Why talk about 7-5 ?

14-game seasons nowadays, son.

If Coach Richt has a 9-4 or 8-5 season in 14-game seasons nowadays, again, he is safe.

Is that what we want to talk about safe ?

You hit all around the issue when you finally get to discussing coaching staff changes after this season.

Ones that should have already long since happened.

9 Years of the Coach Richt Era, Coach Richt has had a decidedly LOUSY coaching staff.

Last 2 years ?

2007 was great.

God Almighty Tony, we have lost 10 SEC East games the last 4 years.

21 fumbles every year for last 4 years on the average

14 interceptions every year for last 4 years on the average

# 96 in Penalties NCAA Ranking every year for last 4 years on the average

In 9 years of Coach Richt Era :

LOST 8 games to teams not ranked Top 25 Final AP Poll

LOST 8 games to teams ranked Top 10 Final AP Poll, beat 3

Not beat 1 Top 10 Final AP Poll team in any bowl game

Not sniffed SEC East Championship since 2005

This is 2010

No QB prepared 2006 (4 Losses), 2009 (5 Losses) and now again 2010

Entire Offensive Coaching Staff put on notice that Coach Richt has taken over all their responsibilities, as of his quote to you 3 weeks ago now

39 Arrests / Suspensions in just the last 3 years according to David Hale

Failed to recruit offensive all-stars in state of Georgia 2010 Recruiting Class

Horrible offensive play calls

Booed by EVERY fan at Sanford Stadium

38 wins last 4 years is Number 19 in the nation for UGA

14 losses last 4 years Number 19 in the nation for UGA

Number 9 of 12 in The SEC in Graduation Rates Coach Richt Era

17-19 Coach Richt Era vs Top 25 Final AP Poll teams

We have not beat the good teams at 3-8 vs Top 10 Final AP Poll

We have also lost to bad teams 8 in the 9 year Coach Richt Era

2-7 vs Florida and now 3-17 last 2 decades

2006 we beat # 9 Auburn # 19 Virginia Tech, LOST unranked Vandie 4-8 & KY

2007 we beat # 13 Florida # 15 Auburn # 19 Hawaii, LOST vols unranked SC 6-6

2008 we beat # 24 Michigan State, LOST 29 consecutive points Georgia tek, 42 consecutive points Florida and 31 to nothing at half time Alabama

2009 we beat # 13 Final AP Poll Georgia tek, LOST not Top 25 Final AP Poll Okie St, vols 7-6, KY 7-6, Florida to be 2-7 Coach Richt Era now and to LSU who beat NO Top 25 Poll team but beat UGA.

Alabama, Florida and LSU are doing better than UGA and at Number 19 in the nation the last 4 years in wins/losses, being unable to get out of our own division of our own conference, we are no where on the national stage.

We had a claim after 2005 to be almost an Elite Football Program.

Since, we are # 19.


May 13th, 2010
3:46 am



May 13th, 201012:54 am

“When Saban stays at 1 school for 5 years, and wins a national championship after the 4th year on that team, with his own recruits, then he can take full credit. Until then, he can’t.”


Ok, let’s measure Coach Richt by the SAME MEASURE.

52-13 Coach Richt 2001-2005
38-14 Coach Richt 2006-2010

Let’s say he goes 9-4 this season

52-13 Coach Richt 2001-2005
47-18 Coach Richt 2006-2010

We were not unlucky in 2007, we lost to a really lousy 6-6 South Carolina team who did not even play in a bowl game and we lost to the vols since we have never beat the vols and Florida both the same season. Our reward for these losses, taking us out of our own division of our own confernce, let alone the national stage, before the season really got going ?

# 19 Hawaii – that is who you get to play with losses to vols and South Carolina 2007, # 19.

We were unlucky in 2002 ? NONE of those players were Coach Richt players, none of them.

Be careful how you judge other coaches, because if you apply your same reasoning to our own coach after the first 5 years SoHo, then you are pin-pointing that what Coach Richt did with Jim Donnan’s players (all now in the NFL), is not what Coach Richt has done now the last 4 years with all his own recruits.

We have not done anything the last 4 years at 10-10 vs SEC East teams and 14 Losses 38 wins.

# 19

And, there is no one who thinks this year is going to be ANY different.

After this year, Coach Richt loses 14 seniors and 5 juniors, all starters.

Do you really think you can put crap on Garcia at South Carolina for his arrests and ignore we have had 39 Arrested / Suspended in just the last 3 years according to David Hale last week.

Do you know we are # 9 of the 12 SEC in football in Graduation Rates today latest NCAA report.

Jim Donnan lost 13 games his last 4 years, for which he was fired.

Coach Richt has lost 14 games his last 4 years.

Say South Carolina at home at night wins ? What is Coach Richt’s record in SEC East last 4 years then

pat sulley

May 13th, 2010
4:01 am

In terms of “BuLLdawgs” comments, I say thank you. Thank you for your dedication and daily concern for UGA.
This guy wakes up every day thinking about UGA.
That is so funny to me.
What is more amazing to me is that you are only here in hopes of getting attention.
that is pathetic.
That obsessive behavior indicates just how superior you view UGA.

You attempt to distract people from the topic at hand.
Suggestion for “BuLLdawg” who blogs on a daily basis about UGA:

“Please Notice Me” would be a better name.
That would be a very fitting name because of your desperate need to get members of the CFB family to notice you.
Before you refute that statement, ask yourself why you are not blogging on any other subject at any other time except about UGA.
You are so unoriginal and pathetic you will probably copy and paste that comment and subtly change the content to make it appear as your own work.

pat sulley

May 13th, 2010
4:06 am

Hey BuLLdawg. Here is an accurate WHOLE record. Nothing like the pick and choose stats you use..

under Richt

He is 24-7 against the SEC West.

He is 28-16 against the SEC East.

He is 38-4 against nonconference opponents.

He is 8-1 against Georgia Tech.

He won four of his first five games against Tennessee, but has lost three of the last four against the Vols since then.

He was born the same year as Chuck D of Public Enemy.

Ranks third in winning percentage among active college coaches that have coached for at least five years, now that Pete Carroll left USC for the NFL’s Seattle Seahawks.

He is 90-27, trailing only Urban Meyer (96-18) and Bob Stoops (117-29).\\yeah he is pretty damn good

Mark Richt is one of only six coaches to win two SEC football championships in their first five years coaching. He is also one of only five head coaches in SEC history to record four straight 10-win seasons

Coach Richt’s Red and Black outfits have never posted a losing record in conference play and six of his last eight squads have finished 6-2 or better in regular-season SEC contests.

Mark Richt’s overall success in Southeastern Conference action—including two SEC titles, three conference championship game appearances, and four finishes of no worse than tied for first place in the East, with no losing records in the process—is without parallel in Georgia football history.

Ere anyone attempts to argue that Coach Richt’s superb out-of-conference ledger is the product of schedules stacked with the likes of

Northwestern State,

Western Kentucky,

Tennessee Tech, and

Hawaii in the 2008 Sugar Bowl,

I should hasten to point out that he is 21-4 against

Arizona State,

Boise State,

Boston College,



Florida State,

Georgia Tech,

Michigan State,

Oklahoma State,


Texas A&M,

Virginia Tech,

West Virginia, and


Even if we factor out Division I-AA teams, Sun Belt squads, and similar schedule fodder, Coach Richt is .840 against teams from automatic BCS-qualifying conferences other than the SEC. (Yes, I’m going ahead and counting the Broncos in that category because the Mountain West will get a guaranteed bid as soon as Boise State is invited to join.)

There are those in Bulldog Nation who would like to see Mark Richt run out of town on a rail. Such people should be turned over to the custody of Mike Leach, in the hope that he will treat their obvious head trauma the way he treated Adam James’s


May 13th, 2010
4:20 am

He is 10-10 vs SEC East the last 4 years.

He has 8 LOSSES to teams NOT RANKED Top 25 Final AP Poll

He is 3-8 vs Top 10 Final AP Poll teams

He has NEVER beat a Top 10 Final AP Poll team in any bowl game

He has 95 Arrests/ Suspensions

He has 39 Arrests/Suspensions in just the last 3 years

He is # 9 SEC in Football Graduation Rates

He has 21 fumbles every year last 4 years in a row

He has 14 interceptions every year last 4 years in a row

He is # 96 in Penalties every year last 4 years in a row

We are # 19 in the nation at 38-14 the last 4 years in a row


May 13th, 2010
4:32 am

tony… you are not getting the real skinny from your own school.
take it to the bank, this is a critical year for mark right as evidence by the massive staff changes thus past year.
if they do not work and uga is 7-5, the wolves will out to change the head coach.

mark richt is not the wonder boy that he once was! tony… you are not even close to what you are reporting , your view is not the correct one in athens!

maybe… you are spending so much with espn that you are not as close as you once were in athens!


May 13th, 2010
4:45 am

He we are doing great. I just love it being the # 19 football program in the nation over the last 4 years at 38-14.


May 13th, 2010
4:47 am

If we are doing so great and Coach Richt is not having problems with his coaching staff for 9 years, why did he 3 weeks ago tell the entire offensive coaching staff that he, Coach Richt, is taking over all their responsibilities on Offense, and fired his entire special teams coaching staff, and fired his entire defensive coaching staff ?

Because we are doing great ?


May 13th, 2010
5:15 am

If Les Miles is in more trouble than Coach Richt, then why is

51-15 Les Miles
48-17 Coach Richt

These are the 5 years that Les Miles has been at LSU.

Coach Richt has not done as well as Les Miles.

Les Miles has MORE WINS in The SEC than Coach Richt in the Les Miles’ Era at LSU.

Les Miles has what Coach Richt does NOT National Championship.

Les Miles’ players are not Arrested / Suspended at the rate Coach Richt’s are.

Les Miles’ Graduation Rate is higher than Coach Richt.

But, Les Miles is on the hot seat more than Coach Richt when Les Miles has a better record than Coach Richt during the 5 years both have coached together in the last 5 years.

Les Miles has a better SEC record than Coach Richt.

Les Miles has a better overall record than Coach Richt.

Les Miles has a better coaching staff his 5 years than Coach Richt his 9 years.

Les Miles averages MORE than 10 wins a season.

Coach Richt averages LESS than 10 wins a season in the same timeframe Les Miles has coached at LSU.

3 decades have now passed without UGA a National Championship and Les Miles gave LSU another National Championship, while we work on our 4th Decade without a National Championship.

Les Miles is better at recruiting than Coach Richt.

Les Miles is better at hiring a coaching staff than Coach Richt.

Les Miles beats top teams in bowl games; Coach Richt NEVER has beat a Top 10 Final AP Poll team in any bowl game, ever.

Les Miles makes bone-headed coaching decisions in game clock management crunch time, like an idiot, repeatedly and yet he has a BETTER record than Coach Richt. What does that tell you ?

Coach Richt tries desperately to employ gimmicks to get his unruly bunch of penalty prone team on the field and Arrested / Suspended team off the field, to win. Those have back-fired. And, it leaves Coach Richt standing there being judged head-to-head with Les Miles. Les Miles has done BETTER than Coach Richt.

So has Urban Meyer.

So too has Nick Saban.

Where does that put Coach Richt ?

Well, I will tell you where it puts Coach Richt, it puts Coach Richt 1-3 the last 4 years to vols, 1-3 the last 4 years to Florida, 2-2 the last 4 years to Kentucky and 3-1 the last 4 years to Vandie and South Carolina.

It puts Coach Richt not as good a Coach as a whole host of coaches in his own conference and even more than that in the nation. Yet, here we are in the state of Georgia with 3 other states having more high school players in the NFL and Coach Richt is # 19 in the nation at 38-14 the last 4 years.

I know more about Georgia Bulldogs’ Football than you can go extrapolate from a story by Chris Low 4 years ago when Coach Richt had completed his first 5 years here with Jim Donnan’s recruits and was flying high.

Since # 19 at 38-14 and 10-10 in our own damned division of our own conference.

Our division in our conference has NOT BEEN GOOD the last 4 years outside of Florida, but Georgia is 10-10 against them the last 4 years.


That is YOUR problem, not MINE.


May 13th, 2010
5:29 am



May 13th, 2010 4:32 am

tony… you are not getting the real skinny from your own school.

take it to the bank, this is a critical year for mark right as evidence by the massive staff changes thus past year.

if they do not work and uga is 7-5, the wolves will out to change the head coach.

mark richt is not the wonder boy that he once was! tony… you are not even close to what you are reporting , your view is not the correct one in athens!


May 13th, 2010
6:15 am

Tony, of course you can link Saban and Richt. Look at the record both have against Kentucky since 2006! See any similarities? I love both coaches and wish them many more years at their respective schools! GBB!


May 13th, 2010
6:32 am

Kentucky starting 2006 ?

Coach Richt is 1-3 vs Florida and 1-3 vs the vols starting 2006.

Coach Richt is 38-14, good for # 19 in the nation, starting 2006.

And, our problems are and have been on offense, especially not having a QB prepared 2006, 2009 and now again in 2010.

We lost 4 games 2006 without a QB prepared.

We lost 5 games 2009 without a QB prepared.

We lose ? games 2010 without a QB prepared ?

And with # 9 in The SEC in Football Graduation Rate

And, 39 Arrested / Suspended in just the last 3 years

It is NOT just on the field that we have issues.

Off the field too, quite very obviously.

And, we don’t recognize talent when we have it.

And, we don’t want to hire good coaching staff for the 9 years of the Coach Richt Era.

So, Coach Richt is going to do something about ALL OF THIS, while he ALSO takes over


Yeah, right.


May 13th, 2010
6:50 am

Coach Richt should have hired an offensive coordinator instead of trying to do that, too.

Hairy Dawg

May 13th, 2010
8:01 am

Attacking on Richt is no good and he aint problem. Adams+Evans is problems is not letting us bring in best players and Hargraves. We got some of the stinky players and we got to rid them but Adams+Evans got to let us. Richt know how coaching and replaced Martinez. He just needs supporters from Adams+Evans to get SEC speed and talents and then we dominates to unload a whooping can on rest of SEC. Us fans got to turn pressure on Adams+Evans to be the winning teams again.

Hairy Dawg

May 13th, 2010
9:10 am

And more need realize that Richt Christainizing the players that play to create good men. He just needs to get chumps out to remove thats stinkys. Then we win champs to New Orleans Sugar Bowling.

pat sulley

May 13th, 2010
11:05 am

last four years his squad finished higher than any UGA squad in 1980. BuLLdawg you are an idiot

pat sulley

May 13th, 2010
11:07 am

thanks BuLLdawg for the updated numbers. The ones I was using was from ESPN of the week prior to the ALA game in 2008 when they compared Saban to Richt. Here is the link
So not lying just didnt properly extrapolate the numbers from then. Now go argue with the world wide leader in sports. Moron

Alabama: 3-1
Auburn: 6-3
Arkansas: 5-0
Florida: 2-7
South Carolina: 7-2
Tennessee: 5-4
Kentucky: 7-2
Vanderbilt: 8-1
Ole Miss: 4-0
Mississippi St: 2-0
LSU: 3-3


Vs. SEC foes: 52-23

Vs. Top 25 foes: 29-18
Vs. Top 25 foes away from home: 18-12
Vs. Top 10 foes: 8-6
In postseason games (bowls and championships): 9-3
In games decided by a touchdown or less: 34-14
Record at home: 46-11
Record on the road: 42-6 (including bowl games)
Losses to unranked teams: 6
Top 25 finishes: 8
Top 10 finishes: 6
Fact:………UGA was 12-1 in 2002 (prior to bowl selections)
Fact ………Fla was 12-1 in 2006 (prior to bowl selections)
Fact ………Not UGAs fault there were 2 unbeatens that year. “unlucky”
Fact……….Not Flas credit that there was only one unbeaten in 2006. “Lucky”
Fact:………Luck (not merit) had more to do with Fla getting an invite to the BCS not that Fla was more deserving to go to a NC than UGA with identical records.
Fact:………No SEC team has ever lost a BCSNC game and if UGA would have been invited nothing indicates that it would have been different
Fact……….UGA has 2 SEC titles..same as Fla in last 9 years and equal amount of total wins (90) over all.
Fact……….UGA has been ranked more times top ten in last 9 years than any SEC team at 6. Fla has only been ranked top ten 3 times in 9 years (real impressive).
Fact……….In 9 years under Richt the only SEC team with more wins is LSU

Fact………..UGA has won 4 str8 bowls….more than any other SEC team.
Fact……..UGA has won 11 of last 13 bowls…Thats more than any team (tied with LSU and more than FLA)
Fact…… UGA has won 8 or more games in last 13 years…more than any other team in the nation including Fla.

Fact…….UGA is clearly as good or better than any SEC team over last 9 years. Only a fool or a fan of the mythical BCSNC selection process (non playoff) would think otherwise.
Fact…….UGA had same record when they won the SEC title in 2002 as Fla did in 2006/8 when they won the SEC title. But UGA had the misfortune (luck) to have that record in a year that had 2 other teams with undefeated records.
Hardly an indictment on UGA but rather on the NC selection process.
6 times finished in the top 10
2 times finished in the top 3
3 SEC Championship Appearances
2 SEC Titles
3 BCS Bowls
2 Sugar Bowl wins
90-27 record over 8 seasons – 79% winning percentage (one of only 7 in the history of college ball to have ever accomplished this)
4 str8 bowl wins
7-2 in bowls (big games)
Mark Richt coached QB coach for Charlie Ward and Chris Weinke = 2 Heismans; Head Coach for David Greene = all time winningest college QB until Colt McCoy this year); and coached Matthew Stafford = very rich #1 draft pick)
No Probations
He has my respect.

In terms of “BuLLdawgs” comments, I say thank you. Thank you for your dedication and daily concern for UGA.
This guy wakes up every day thinking about UGA.
That is so funny to me.
What is more amazing to me is that you are only here in hopes of getting attention.
that is pathetic.
That obsessive behavior indicates just how superior you view UGA.

You attempt to distract people from the topic at hand.
Suggestion for “BuLLdawg” who blogs on a daily basis about UGA:

“Please Notice Me” would be a better name.
That would be a very fitting name because of your desperate need to get members of the CFB family to notice you.
Before you refute that statement, ask yourself why you are not blogging on any other subject at any other time except about UGA.
You are so unoriginal and pathetic you will probably copy and paste that comment and subtly change the content to make it appear as your own work.

In 2002, Ohio State went 12-0 in the regular season with a paltry five-point win over Wisconsin, a miniscule six-point win over Penn State, and a pathetic 10-6 win over Purdue where Craig Krenzel threw a 37-yard touchdown pass on fourth down in the final two minutes.
Then the Buckeyes needed a sadly pathetic overtime to beat Illinois and beat Michigan 14-9 with a miracle touchdown with less than five minutes remaining. Ohio State could have seen its national championship dreams derailed several times but to the Buckeyes’ everlasting credit, they always found a way to win.
Mark Richt’s best team at Georgia (12-1 with a loss to Florida), which finished No. 3 in the BCS Standings, just needed for Ohio State to lose one of those games and the Bulldogs are in the Fiesta Bowl against Miami.
I guess in a playoff UGA could not have beaten the mighty Buckeye’s? And we still think the BCSNC is legit? LOL

Ducktails……OS U had a .75 advantage over UGA on Oct 26th.
UGA only played one game (barely ranked #22 Auburn) in the last 5 weeks against ranked teams.
OSU played 2 ranked teams (1 top ten and one 11th) the SOS would have moved OSU above an unbeaten UGA anyway.
Needing OSU to lose for UGA to get in undefeated or not. Making the Fla game irrelevant. Again the LUCK like Fla had at 12-1 in 2006 and 2008 was not on UGAs side.
So…AGAIN…no ducktails Fla beating UGA is not what kept UGA out. Luck that OSU didnt lose did.
UGA was 3rd in the game/week leading up to the BCS NC.
Had OSU or Miami lost (as Fla needed in 2006/8) then it would have put UGA in.
Hence luck.
OSU would have been ahead of UGA regardless of UGA being undefeated or not based on its SOS over last 5 weeks…playing 2 top ten teams to UGA playing only 1.
But then you already knew this right ducktails?
SHould they keep Richt?
Mark Inabinett of the Mobile Press-Register broke down the SEC records for the past decade (2000-2009), and the Dogs generally rank in the top three no matter how you look at it.
In overall record, Georgia (98-31) came in third behind Florida (100-30) and LSU (99-31).
If you go by conference record, Georgia (55-25) was tied with LSU behind Florida (61-19).
For nonconference record, the Dogs (43-6) were second behind LSU (44-6) and ahead of the mighty Gators (39-11).
Going by record against other BCS conferences, Georgia (21-5) was on top, followed by LSU (13-4), Kentucky (9-5), Florida (13-10) and Auburn (10-10) and Alabama (7-7).

Finally, he notes that Florida, Georgia and LSU were the only SEC teams that went to bowls after every season of the decade.

A pretty impressive record.

But just going on the last 9 years not the whole decade (under Richt) UGA is in first place as far as total wins, bowls, bowl wins, etc etc etc. AND thats with UGA losing 5 games last year allowing the rest to CATCH UP
Nick Saban went 6-5, 6-6, 6-6, 7-5 at Mich St.

He went 8-5 at LSU 2x

He went 7-6 at Alabama.

Saban has gone 5-3 or worse in conference 8 times.

Richt has only gone 5-3 or worse in conference 3 times in his first 9 years.

Compare that to Saban’s record and consistency in his 1st 9 years.

Richt has NEVER had a 7-6 or 6-6 season, Saban’s done it 5 times, including once at Alabama

pat sulley

May 13th, 2010
11:08 am

Saban first 8 years in D1A (SEC) football. ……….81 wins.
Richt first 8 years in the SEC……………………82 wins Richt has a better record

Meyers first 5 years in SEC ……2 SEC titles.
Richts first 5 years in SEC……..2 SEC titles ..richts record is as good.

Miles 8 years in SEC 79 wins 1 SEC title
Richts 8 years in SEC 82 wins 2 SEC titles. Richts records is better.

pat sulley

May 13th, 2010
11:11 am

Again BuLLdawg uses incomplete stats and cherry picks time frame….typical

pat sulley

May 13th, 2010
11:16 am

Mark Richt has led the Bulldogs to a win over their oldest rivals and a win over their in-state rivals (both of whom were bound for January bowl games), fired three members of his coaching staff, won a bowl game over an up-and-coming Big 12 team, hired Todd Grantham at the end of an exhaustive search for a new defensive coordinator, and gone outside his circle of acquaintances to hire Coach Grantham’s preferred secondary coach. Aside from one atrocious senior night between the hedges, it’s been all uphill since we hit rock bottom.

Any fair evaluation of Coach Richt’s record nine years into his tenure, therefore, most begin with an acknowledgment that he has proven his willingness to make the changes that are necessary to restore the Georgia program to prominence. When even guys who hurl toasters off of balconies during Bulldog victories are urging patience, we need to give credit where credit is due. Mark Richt is a fine man, an excellent coach, and a damn good ‘Dawg.

That said, here is the tale of the tape on Coach Richt’s time in the Classic City:

Just three of Coach Richt’s 24 predecessors lasted as long as nine years as the head coach in Athens. (While Alex Cunningham technically was at the Georgia helm from 1910 to 1919, the Red and Black did not field football teams during the war years of 1917 and 1918, so Coach Cunningham oversaw only eight Georgia squads.)

pat sulley

May 13th, 2010
11:17 am

Coach Richt still can say that he is the only Georgia coach to have made it through nine seasons at the Red and Black helm with a winning record over the Crimson Tide.
He is 2-0 in Bryant-Denny Stadium, a venue in which the Red and Black had never won prior to his arrival.

pat sulley

May 13th, 2010
11:18 am

As disheartened as we all were by last year’s last-second loss to the Fighting Tigers, Coach Richt’s record against Louisiana State surely counts as one of the feathers in his cap. During one of the most dominant periods in the Bayou Bengals’ history, Mark Richt has held his own against LSU, going .500 against the Tigers both overall and in the Georgia Dome.

pat sulley

May 13th, 2010
11:19 am

It’s Mark Richt’s state. Paul Johnson is only living in it. Even Vince Dooley didn’t beat the Yellow Jackets at that torrid pace, and, after Bobby Dodd left the Grant Field sideline, he faced some Ramblin’ Wreck coaches a good deal worse than Chan Gailey.

pat sulley

May 13th, 2010
11:20 am

The Plainsmen lead the Deep South’s Oldest Rivalry with an overall 53-52-8 series record, so it is not surprising that no Georgia coach has put together a truly dominant record over Auburn. Nevertheless,

Coach Richt has won two-thirds of his meetings with the Tigers and has taken six of the last eight games, including each of the last four, from the Alabama Polytechnic Institute, despite overlapping with the extremely successful Tommy Tuberville for much of his tenure.

Coach Richt simply does not get enough credit for his achievements against the Plainsmen. I hate Auburn.

pat sulley

May 13th, 2010
11:22 am

I was thinking after reading this about Coach Richt’s record against coaches that have a MNC.

Urban Meyer: 1-4
Nick Saban: 3-3
Les Miles: 2-1
Steve Spurrier: 4-2
Phillip Fulmer: 5-3
Lou Holtz: 3-1
Bobby Bowden: 1-0

Aside from Urban Meyer, whenever Coach Richt goes up against the best coaches in the business he usually wins (and we won’t count Tommy Tuberville, who Coach Richt went 5-3 against).

pat sulley

May 13th, 2010
11:22 am

Against Dennis Erickson: 2-0

pat sulley

May 13th, 2010
11:25 am

and BuLLdawg (Thomas Brown) try to be more original

pat sulley

May 13th, 2010
11:27 am

Losses to unranked (final poll) teams, 2001-2009

USC: 9
UF: 5
LSU: 6
OU: 5
Texas: 6
Ohio State: 7
UGA: 6

pat sulley

May 13th, 2010
11:27 am

Records against top 25 (final poll) teams, 2001-2009

UF: 25-22
LSU: 21-21
OU: 20-19
Texas: 21-10
Ohio State: 22-14
UGA: 19-21

pat sulley

May 13th, 2010
11:28 am

Take out Florida, and from 2001-2009, Georgia is

17-14 against year-end top 25 teams

pat sulley

May 13th, 2010
11:38 am

Coach……………………………………………School, ……………………………………..First 9 Seasons
George Woodruff (1892-00) ……………….Pennsylvania, ………………………………114-7-2
Pete Carroll (2001-09) ……………………..Southern Cal., ……………………………….97-19
Bob Stoops (1999-2007)……………………Oklahoma, …………………………………..97-22
Urban Meyer (2001-current) ………………B. Green, Utah, Fla.,……………………… 96-18 (playing against mid majors helped skew his numbers)
Amos Alonzo Stagg (1890-98)…………..Springfield, Chic., ……………………………94-35-8
Barry Switzer (1973-81)…………………..Oklahoma, …………………………………….90-13-3
Mark Richt (2001-current)………………..Georgia, ………………………………………….90-27

pat sulley

May 13th, 2010
11:39 am

Coach School, First 8 Seasons
George Woodruff (1892-00) Pennsylvania, 114-7-2
Pete Carroll (2001-09) Southern Cal., 97-19
Bob Stoops (1999-2007) Oklahoma, 97-22
Urban Meyer (2001-current) B. Green, Utah, Fla., 96-18
Amos Alonzo Stagg (1890-98) Springfield, Chic., 94-35-8
Barry Switzer (1973-81) Oklahoma, 90-13-3
Mark Richt (2001-current) Georgia, 82-22.

pat sulley

May 13th, 2010
11:40 am

Only Coaches To Win Two SEC Titles In First Five Years

Frank Thomas, Alabama (1933, ‘34)
Bernie Moore, LSU (1935, ‘36)
Vince Dooley, Georgia (1966, ‘68)
Steve Spurrier, Florida (1991, ‘93)
Nick Saban, LSU (2001, ‘03)
Mark Richt, Georgia (2002, ‘05)
Urban Meyer 2006/8

pat sulley

May 13th, 2010
11:41 am

Only SEC Coaches To Record Four Straight 10-Win Seasons

Paul “Bear” Bryant, Alabama (1971-74, 1977-80)
Vince Dooley, Georgia (1980-83)
Phillip Fulmer, Tennessee (1995-98)
Mark Richt, Georgia (2002-05)
Steve Spurrier, Florida (1993-98)

pat sulley

May 13th, 2010
11:43 am

(not including last year) a page from BuLLdawgs playbook (exclude certain years that dont help his argument)

Record (*SEC)
82-22 (48-19)
Home / Away / Neutral
42-9 / 30-4 / 10-9
Versus Ranked Teams (H/A/N)
8-7 / 10-2 / 9-7
Versus Top 10 Teams (H/A/N)
1-1 / 3-1 / 3-4
Day / Night 60-14 / 22-8
SEC East / *West / Non-Conference
27-13 / 21-6 / 34-3
Conference Record (H/A/*N)
20-8 / 24-4 / 4-7
Score First / Opp. Scores First
63-8 / 19-14
Leading / Trailing / Tied at Half
63-6 / 16-15 / 3-1
Leading / Trailing / Tied after 3rd Q
71-4 / 7-18 / 4-0
Scoring < 18 Pts. / 18 + Pts.
11-15 / 71-7
Allowing less than 20 Pts.
Allowing 20+ / 30+ Pts.
18-9 / 4-8
Rushing for less than 100 yards
Rushing for over 100 yards
Rushing for 200+ yards
Passing for 300+ yards
Totaling less than 300 yards
400+ yards of Total Offense
Allowing less than 100 yards
Allowing less than 300 yds. Total Off.
Allowing 400+ yds. total offense
Having 100-yard rusher
Opp. have 100-yard rusher
No turnovers / takeaways
15-0 / 7-7
In August / September
3-0 / 26-4
In October
In November
In December
In January


May 13th, 2010
11:47 am

Richt’s winning % is 3rd among active coaches who’ve coached at least 5 years.

Meyer/Stoops .819/.820
Richt .790
Miles .701
Saban .688

Clearly, Richt is in a league of his own when it comes to comparisons to Miles or Saban as far as winning goes–winning is the bottom line.

The #2 and #3 finishes in 2002 & 2007 are as good as any Miles or Saban’s had, should have won a Natl Champ both yerars, a little unlucky in that regard, but terrific results.

Of course, you won’t find Paul Finn. talking winning % when he compares Richt to Saban, because he’ll lose that discussion.


May 13th, 2010
11:51 am

The dude acting like “Pat Sulley” should be banned, he wants us to believe he’s a truckdriver who blogs all the time, while driving, he’s breaking blog rules, by acting like another person. He is NOT Pat Sulley.


May 13th, 2010
11:52 am


pat sulley

May 13th, 2010
12:04 pm

How am I not Patrick Sulley. It certainly is the name I was given by Arthur Sulley (my dad)…admittedly there are many times someone has stolen MY name and used it to talk bad about UGA but these last posts are mine (I have today off)

LUCAS ….I dont steal identities….I get mine stolen.

pat sulley

May 13th, 2010
12:08 pm

By the way…I do occasionally drive (when a driver is sick) but I am the owner of PMSulley Trucking. I have a lot of time to blog


May 13th, 2010
12:16 pm

Hey “pat”

Listen clueless, making up a name of your “dad” does not offer proof you are who you say you are.

If you are Pat Sulley, the blogging truck driver, then I am Nick Saban.

pat sulley

May 13th, 2010
12:56 pm

Hi Nick…glad to meet ya.

I tell ya what…I will post my Fathers name and yours on my facebook account…I will say “Hey Lucas (nick Saban) my dads name is Arthur. Will that satisfy ya?

pat sulley

May 13th, 2010
12:58 pm

Not sure what you didnt like so much about my recent comments that you didnt think it was me…but we are cool non the less.


May 13th, 2010
4:43 pm

I will own Mark Richt for years to come

Hairy Dawg

May 13th, 2010
9:07 pm

Dang right Sulley. Richt is our guy and great at coaching. With the Teablows goning pro we is back to dominates East in 2010. If Richt gets Adams-Evans on boards in running stinkys then watch out cause Dawgs got talent in GA that aint in Bammer. We got to upping pressure on Adams-Evans for football to be dominates.